When Magnus Carlsen Was Accused Of Cheating

[@ClassicalMate]

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[@SharkyKSP]

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[@gamerpro608]

@@SharkyKSP and then lose all of your money to the american health care system lol

[@SharkyKSP]

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[@michaeljohn8341]

Mcyum

[@villss894]

welp mcyum good vid

[@knull416]

"How do we know he's not cheating" "Sir he's better than our engine"

[@Wileoo]

well technically he lost to stockfish but in some cases yeah

[@JMarcusPedroza]

Seriously though 😂

[@obi-wankenobi5411]

No one is better than chess engines. Even the weak ones are above 3500+ these days. And stockfish is like 4000+. But for computers, ELO gets calculated differently. If they were rated like humans, stockfish would be above 5000. And magnus barely touched 3000. The difference is night and day. To stockfish, magnus would be someone who just learnt chess. So no, he is not better than engines. That simply is not possible. If god played chess with stockfish, stockfi would probably manage to force a draw one or twice. That's how powerful it actually is.

[@Wileoo]

@@obi-wankenobi5411 its a joke bro

[@reyanshagrawal2613]

I would try to fill your brains with the data that magnus bot drew full strength stockfish 10 times out of 10 when white. I can't, because you don't have any.@@obi-wankenobi5411

[@LoganH0076]

So... zero accusations of cheating? Got it

[@wvvwwvwvv]

He was just salty he lost on time and was finding any excuses

[@xSchockZz]

​@@wvvwwvwvv Yea but title says cheating

[@TheDinkyy]

TLDR Magnus gets a win rather than a draw despite having only a king and a bishop, despite Alireza being three pawns up in an opposite color bishop end game. This is because checkmate is TECHNICALLY possbile, even though extremely unlikely at GM level. Alireza also calls Magnus's conduct into question because he alleged that him swearing at himself in Norwegian was done deliberately to distract. The word "cheating" is never used at all other than the clickbait title

[@auspiciousjelly3919]

The checkmate possibility was not just extremely unlikely at GM level. It was almost impossible at any level as even white had to throw everything so hard. In short, both sides had to work together for the checkmate

[@exander77]

I was distracted by Alireza dropping pieces all over the board and I didn't even play the game.

[@JesusPlsSaveMe]

They should surely hire you as one of the AI trainers for training AIs like ChatGPT in summarizing content😅😅 Good job man

[@aaaaaa-hh8cq]

Alireza lost because his hands shake like crazy lmao

[@DevinDTV]

The likelihood of a checkmate is irrelevant. He ran out of time so he lost.

[@RearAdmiralTootToot]

The guy who lost kept playing chess even after the chess game was over, and lost that game too. A for effort, F for results.

[@bretth4988]

He knocked over a few pieces as well whilst in play. If anything he should be disqualified.

[@jstnrgrs]

To call this a cheating accusation seems a bit too strong. Magnus was accused of violating a rule regarding his behavior during the match (an accusation that doesn't hold up). I would think cheating implies getting outside help, or sneaking a piece off the board or something.

[@StreakyBaconMan]

There just isn't many scandals in professional chess, so when there is even a TINY scandal it gets blown out of all proportion.

[@raywym4934]

Lmao sneaking a piece off the board you can't be serious

[@brunomaelstrom8823]

Norwegian swearing is very powerful

[@Fashbinder]

I believe he said "Fus Roh Da"

[@gIokk]

@@Fashbinderclassic meme 💯

[@slivovitz1683]

He wrote an appeal that magnus distracted him by making him shit his pants

[@durian8690]

norwegian cheating is looking out very careful and clever

[@joan4p704]

Clickbait and lies. He NEVER accused Magnus of Cheating.

[@Fraimy-nr6ny]

Yes, when he was arguin with the arbiter he say magnus was distraccting hin with the bad behaviour and in chess that is cheat

[@SKIBIDI-IN-OHIO]

i never thought alireza firouzja would get so jelous, this is not normal at all... (magnus carlsen is just better😂) edit: i havent came to this comment for a long time, thanks for the likes and btw can yall stop fighting in the comments its not that deep

[@PHO3NIX6173]

Im guessing it was a big game and he needed a win or draw for some points but yeah 😂

[@qade-qe5hl]

If magnus is just better then why was he losing so badly lol

[@PHO3NIX6173]

@@qade-qe5hl hes human first of all second he still won

[@U2WR4]

i am huge fan of magnus but in this game he was NOT the better player

[@aulongp9974]

@@qade-qe5hlFr

[@galgal34]

bro really put an 50s ad in a 6m video. cant believe alireza is that petty

[@SteveT-v6n]

Right.

[@Mango_TalingChan]

Let's say faintly good-looking, but not that pretty.

[@pautraj]

@@Mango_TalingChanthe person said ‘petty’,not ‘pretty’

[@raantas946]

If Alireza complained of Magnus yelling Norwegian, it'd have been an off-the-board Brilliancy

[@JoshxIZ]

I think he got caught up in all the excitment and was so determined he was going to win he couldnt believe otherwise. But if it should of been a draw or not is not for me to say

[@GMBlunderfish1]

Magnus winned ON TIME

[@stanleycapps4108]

theoritically it should have been a draw, but the fact is Magnus won on time.

[@robocopleextraordinaire4148]

No, not for you to say - thats why we have rules...

[@solidmoon8266]

Clock ran out, white lost. That's it. If it truely became a stalemate, then that would've been declared. But there were pawns and bishops still in play so the game was still playable with either side potentially winning. So the clock time is the deciding factor.

[@T3n50r]

@@GMBlunderfish1 *Won on time, not "winned". Don't mean to be a dick, just trying to be helpful

[@moonbeam54321]

*Magnus says 1 swear word* - Alireza falls off chair in confusion, chess board flies off table

[@alb_gaming06]

I can't believe that the guy who owns this channel also owns the McYum channel. I just watched a documentary about it.

[@andremaines]

I love how fast paced and exciting you make your videos! Great work I’m a big fan! 👍🏻

[@timbaldwin6283]

Too face paced and too exciting. I think he cheated.

[@youtubepolicedepartment8807]

Because you’re adhd tiktok braindead generation

[@Bruzzzio]

Magnus magnus’d because Magnus magnuses to el magnum for Magnus which magneses Magnus to Magnus the Magnus with magnusing, and magnuses the Magnus, which Magnus wins. Basically, gibberish.

[@--delirious--4136]

Magnificent

[@PP1969GR]

😆

[@raywym4934]

​@@--delirious--4136 magnusifent

[@Wesz808]

I think the E5 response was already suspicious. Has it been played in a chess game ever before?

[@davogdan926]

Bro Magnus is the GOAT ofcours he is making provaktive moves he is better than most people like me and u

[@JoeMama-sk4wg]

The gameplay really doesn’t matter tbh magnus is just too good at chess and it doesnt even matter if he beats stockfish the way this guy plays is beyond human comprehension and i mean that.

[@Eliterum]

*"Tell me you're a 1000 ELO player without telling me you're a 1000 ELO player"*@@JoeMama-sk4wg

[@JoeMama-sk4wg]

@@Eliterum" *Tell* *me* *your* *a* *600* *elo* *player* *without* *Telling* *me* *your* *a* *600* *elo* *player* "

[@Eliterum]

@@JoeMama-sk4wg I am a 1800 bozo..

[@Poorboycrypto]

Why such a long ad for such a short video?

[@bsmartr806]

I find it more distracting and unprofessional that he keeps knocking over/dropping pieces.

[@jonathancoetzee-h3r]

my goodness why does anyone ever challenge magnus he is insanely good and that is an understatement

[@PrinceFlop]

he almost lost bro, he has lost before and will lose again and there will be stronger players than him. there always are bigger fish in the ocean

[@floof6896]

​@@PrinceFlophe has lost, yes, he's obviously not unbeatable. but to say there are WAY better players than him that are alive today? i don't think so.

[@ai_singularity]

@@PrinceFlop There are no bigger fish than him at the moment alive.

[@PrinceFlop]

there will be@@ai_singularity

[@incognito5416]

​@@ai_singularitybro has been winning tournaments left and right, so can u plz tell me who these "bigger fishes" are?? Btw, who was it that won the last rapid, blitz and fide world cup championship?? I kinda forgot🤔🤣🤣🤣

[@SnowyIsHere]

Welcome back Classical!

[@johnproton259]

My take.... MC shouldn't be cussing, AF should have been calmer in the endgame, even under time pressure (as he is nowadays, with a bit more age and experience), getting flagged and losing is the rules so I guess the reality of MC having a lost position and winning rather than drawing is just tough shit. AF will and has learned and MC doesn't seem to have such histrionics over the board these days either.

[@ItIsYouAreNotYour]

"No taking" rule is bs. Bring some excitement with shit talk and blow horn fans calling you nasty names. You can't even golf clap.

[@JohnSmith-ti9uq]

He screwed up on time. Nobody to blame but himself. He knows the rules.

[@junlu6196]

1:52 he made a terrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrible mistake. +0.8 💀

[@gutenbird]

While I think MC is the clear winner, it seems a bizarre rule that a player should bring up questionable behavior by another player during the game.

[@tomatoisnotafruit5670]

it's not bizarre, if Alizera won would he bring up Magnus swearing at himself? No he wouldn't, he would say ah that's no problem, but now that he lost on time, now all of a sudden it's a problem?

[@Urza26]

If a player comes and wears an underwear on his head, it would distract the opponent. So its perfecly reasonable to ask the arbiter duing game

[@optimisticenigma283]

can someone help me? at 1:51, isn't Qg8 checkmate or am I missing something? and is that why Alireza got mad or something?

[@pakasokoste]

King has e7

[@optimisticenigma283]

@@pakasokoste Oh yeahhh, thanks for that!

[@shogrran]

This is the worst way to handle a loss. Making excuses AFTER the fact.

[@slivovitz1683]

I like how Grischuk, the expert on having no time left in a chess game, appears to explain

[@randomized8420]

What is the music called at the start of the video and at the end of the video?

[@livingwater6218]

Do they pay you for the commercial? We can't watch a simple video without interruption on KZbin anymore.

[@guillaume5325]

in 2024, I don't understand how some people can surf the internet without an ad blocker.... It's simply unbearable!!!

[@Grivian]

Alireza lost because his heart rate went up by 100 after he saw Magnus' mistake, and he was so nervous that he was dropping pieces so he ran out of time.

[@eggam]

honestly, even if i was a grandmaster i still wouldn't be shocked to lose to the quote on quote "best chess player" out of 8 billion people, i'd find even getting close to winning as a huge win

[@Bluzlbee]

Alireza is definitely a Tekken 8 plugger

[@SolomonMagnus819]

Thats too bad. I used to have that level of maturity but at ten. At this level it is important to have a level of dignity in your actions

[@supremejustice22]

Never safe from marketing

[@vibhavgandre7245]

In the whole video Magnus was never accused of cheating , A very wrong Title is given to Video by someone who do not understand chess. I request FIDE to see into the matter and Ban such foolish videos

[@Studieswithahmad1234]

Every single chess KZbin is sponsored by Morgan and Morgan

[@Nachtara-nr1pv]

How much clickbait do u want? This youtuber: yes.

[@sfsavgeek_1110]

Alireza needs to chill😂😂😂😂

[@prehtsel8033]

when youre so good people think youre cheating

[@ZiaRaheman-kd7vu]

Bro was tumbling his pieces like humpty dumty and magnus din't say a word 😭😭🤣🤣🤣🤣😊

[@youssefkhalifa1407]

Why do you make videos in a while

[@drkupo8868]

I love this dude when he just crushes these little crybabys lool his facial expression is priceless 😂😂😂

[@tunglevu7613]

That's surprising, all this time, this was McYum

[@kolbywilliams7234]

Alireza must be softer than room temperature pudding. Imagine someone expressing frustration by muttering a curse in a language you don’t know causing you such mental distress, it is the sole reason you time-out. What a joke.

[@IdeaBlast]

does anybody know the music that plays at 0:25 ?

[@Suzunehorikita111]

I do not hear any music😂

[@Ragnathegoat]

@@Suzunehorikita111then your deaf

[@bretth4988]

If anything the other dude cheated knocking over the chess pieces a few times.

[@FrothyPine]

The pain of running out of time in chess is so annoying. I understand the guys pain

[@juicewar1]

Just subbed this is very entertaining

[@persona5305]

Alireza may have been distracted or got triggered by Magnus's cursing which may affected his psychology but nah.. he still isn't as good as magnus.

[@Tenchua917]

so magnus basically outplayed him and he fumbled, and then accuses him of cheating, wowzers

[@Eskargo11]

Sorry super ignorant when it comes to chess. But I thought Alireza lost on time ? Period, end of story. How did the focus suddenly shift to whether it was a draw or win based on 'if it was possible for magnus to win'? So if a player loses on time, they don't actually lose on time if there's no way their opponent could have won, in which case its a draw -or- or if a player loses on time and they do lose if their opponent could have technically won?

[@Crikey420]

Ikr i lose on time all the time its tough shit for anyone, just be faster

[@medea27]

I believe the way these rapid timed games work is that each player has a set amount of "thinking" time on the clock to use (eg. 3 mins each) and if the game hasn't been won by either player before they run out of thinking time (ie. by 6 mins) then they determine the winner by extrapolating the final position of the pieces. If they both still had options for winning moves then it's a draw, which is what Alireza probably expected... but in this case there was _technically_ a move that Magnus could have made to checkmate & win. So Alireza didn't lose by running out of time, he lost because Magnus had a potentially winning move ... albeit a contentious move that Magnus may not have even played since it wasn't GM-level gameplay. If the arbiters hadn't considered the potential winning move then it would have been declared a draw & neither Alireza nor Magnus would have lost.

[@playa813]

Instead of saying big mistake please say: “A HUUUGE BLUNDER!

[@acarthatgoesbeeep5714]

Hes finally back!!!!

[@grigoreguzun5374]

Magnus always showing to the world his talent! December 2023 he won 3 big championships ❤champions chess tour, 200k$, rapid chess 60k$, blitz chess 60k$👏

[@channelsixtyseven067]

Should have been a draw. I can imagine Alireza's frustration at that adjudication, he accepts he lost on time, but to just give the game to Carlson who had NO path to winning, is just wrong.

[@brokenwave6125]

You don't seem to have any comprehension skills.

[@ambitiousmuslimrecordings]

Disliked for the Clickbait title. Great video, great quality, great analysis, deceiving title.

[@CruL3er]

Disliked. Clickbait title and 50 second ad in a 6 minute video. Shame!

[@SunItsRising]

classical has the best chess videos ong

[@mustacheman3000]

this video is clickbait but ok

[@22dunix3]

The spotlight effect felt super annoying, i'm trying to look at the board dude

[@justingaming5813]

YOOO, you're back!!

[@sint5990]

One must choose one’s entire future over the current moment. Ali seemed to blatantly forget this during his tantrum.

[@akashyadagouda896]

Maguns be like.. its a bonus.

[@daniel-m4q3p]

when you complain that hard, you were already so broken you will never be the same

[@aritrabose8h852]

when chess spoke for magnus

[@MiHawk-jn9oq]

I think FIDE needs to change the rules of flag down with material. I'm thinking that flag down in GM vs GM with obvious win if not flagged down is a draw. Forced Self-mate will """NEVER""" at GM vs GM scenario. you can use the old rule to non-GM game, but not in this level of tournament. FIDE rules needs to redefine.

[@SBanderaB]

Firouzja simply embarrassed himself. You can't buy and apparently you cant learn class.....

[@johnalexwallwall]

He wasn’t accused of cheating… why Re you clickbaiting and lying? Dislike

[@PHO3NIX6173]

? What are u so mad about

[@johnalexwallwall]

@@PHO3NIX6173 nothing really, wasted time which is paled in comparison to your defensiveness lol

[@1993j]

The shouting words in Norwegian is the cheating accusation... (Cheating: To act unfairly to gain an advantage). Obviously it's bs, because Ali thought he could win, but he did accuse him of cheating.

[@Hypothesis17]

I'm pretty sure that distracting your opponent is also considered cheating

[@johnalexwallwall]

@@1993j so how did he act to try to gain an advantage? Did you not watch the video or listen? Did you not see the ruling? Stop being defensive lmao

[@DreamWayClub]

The argument that this was a draw, because it's allmost impossible to checkmate by Magnus in this position is bullshit. Thats why we need time rule. What if a person have 5 different moves, that all obvious for anyone over 1000 elo that leads to checkmate in one move, but he run out of time? How should we avaluate this? A draw, or maybe a win for a dominant position? In my opinion even if you have only king on the board and other person can't checkmate you and run out of time, it should be your win. But rules are rules, everybody play under the same conditions.

[@IsmaelZambadagodoy]

You guys need to keep it consistent with your rules

[@ProMobilePlayer-oh9gx]

Lesson learned: never take Magnus pawn, unless you have a death wish.

[@De_____O____t]

I would have no idea this guy was McYum

[@zpgaming1919]

Dude wont accept defeat

[@ernestojr.duremdes4967]

Alireza looks like he had a massive lose streak before that match

[@iateurcat5456]

It’s too late mcyum you’ve been found

[@arvinarooni1910]

can you explain?

[@Yokoo-Solo]

A few days ago a youtuber named yusuflows made a video title ‘Why Mcyum abandoned his audiance’ Where he talks about why he abandoned his audiance and showed some of his other channels like Mallow,Dr Insanity etc and this channel and people have flooded into these channels comments to say stuff like these

[@rosahildavelazquezrangel1409]

In this why Hikaru was so Angry with Alireza in the Bullet match

[@Theoddoneouts]

Finally a channel that knows how to cover chess matches in a fun way! 😮❤

[@hariprakash5199]

Cheaters make the game unfair and quit. They just only cheat to beat magus Carlsson or other players, they take long stalls figuring out witch move is the best and mostly logging out to avoid termination

[@flacsmada]

really, giving up the pawn on b5 wasnt a blunder, it got the king away to clear the middle. But when he moved his e2 pawn up to try to keep it is the blunder... If he hadnt done that he would have won(unless he lost on time), but even then he still would have won if he had taken pawn on eg with his king instead of pushing the e5 pawn

[@shaniatubana1113]

How do you cheat in chess anyway…

[@Shockwave-008]

is hard to tell but theyll have either someone watching and tell them which one to move or a vibrating thing hidden in there clothing or shoe from what ive heard

[@csabacsapo1864]

@@Shockwave-008vibrating things can be somewhere else too as we learnd in 2022

[@tomasgoes]

Shame to see Alireza being so pitiful. He doesn't need pettiness like this. He's more than strong enough to just win another day. Maybe not against Magnus, but... Still.

[@Just_mind_______]

Although I'm not even close to Alireza , i can understand his frustration

[@madesh1000]

After 3 montes video coming plz we are waiting for you're video plz classicalmate 👍😀😀

[@AmaanMostahid]

alireza be like: wtf how he win mAGNUS : kid this is my things

[@fashidox]

Alireza is in the right though... in this situation, there's no forced checkmate for Magnus, but he didn't lose either henceforth it's a draw due to insufficient material.

[@procrastinathor4594]

so the title was a clickbait, how sad

[@DCFunBud]

I always try to avoid cursing in Nowegian while playing chess.

[@rajkishoremahato5173]

if you are winning against Magnus in chess. Trust me you are under Genjutsu

[@solidmoon8266]

Mate ran out his clock and tries to claim a draw out of nowhere. Come on mate, have some respect for the rules. Then has the audacity to later try and claim misconduct to claim a win he didnt deserve.

[@moreme40]

How does one cheat at chess ?

[@zell177]

Nah, just France and the French anger issues getting to a poor Iranian kid.

[@brianbernardino813]

Why is the voice over so over the top. Emphasising that magnus needs a miracle to survive even with a winning position 😂😂

[@kingdimwitxvx]

no way this channel is owned by McYum

[@ThyVanquished]

I know, I was also surprised at first

[@The_Shwelsher_ChannelYT]

Stop it already

[@PWALYM]

Alireza should play fortnite isntead of chess i guess..... 😂😂😂

[@HappyG1lm0re]

Never go with Morgan and Morgan. Because their ad interrupted this game.

[@ArthurMatthew-l8e]

I think Alireza would give carlsen a run for his money in a world chess championship not saying he would win but damn if they got to the rapid section? That would be fun. But to bad we will never get to know

[@PP1969GR]

King and bishop is draw, right?

[@michaelwalker552]

There is an account on tiktok that stole your whole video, I can email links to you if you want.

[@BrentonSwafford]

Wow, Ali is a sore loser. Just take the loss graciously like a real man.

[@onfiree3519]

He had a chances to win but he lost he couldn't take the losing game.