When Risk Taking Goes Too Far - The Archegos Collapse

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@Ben-kz2km
@Ben-kz2km 3 жыл бұрын
The five banks basically reenacted the prisoner's dilemma. Except, they were allowed to communicate and they still failed.
@ThePrashu31
@ThePrashu31 3 жыл бұрын
When dealing with the likes of Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley, those European and Asian banks had no chance. I would have bet my life savings that it would be one of these two who would try to pull a fast one on the others.
@ManforSomeMarkets
@ManforSomeMarkets 3 жыл бұрын
“Prisoner’s Dilemma? No dilemma about it, the other guy was too slow.”
@thewanderer4509
@thewanderer4509 3 жыл бұрын
Basic backstabbing
@moneyprinter9269
@moneyprinter9269 3 жыл бұрын
From a game theory expert view, the most rational action when you encounter a prisoners dillemma, is to cheat/backstab first.
@voorstenkamp
@voorstenkamp 3 жыл бұрын
Can someone explain this prisonets dilemma?
@iceman4660
@iceman4660 3 жыл бұрын
Beware anybody who uses their faith as an asset in promoting their business.
@getoffthisrocktravel2054
@getoffthisrocktravel2054 3 жыл бұрын
Mate i agree highly. I lived with a close mate (not anymore) who is a devout Christian and obsessed with trading stocks. He earned good money as a high up manager. But will never hire a tradesman to render/repair his house. Either its me bandaiding/repairing wear and tear or other mates for a carton of alcohol. When i moved out the washing machine hot/cold facets had busted off the wall & flooded the house. Instead hiring a plumber he paid someone off Gumtree/craigslist for $50..... the repair job was even worse. My "close mates" reaction " this breaks my heart my faith was in that man to help me out" 😑
@SF-fb6lv
@SF-fb6lv 3 жыл бұрын
I only apply 'faith' to math.
@samsonsoturian6013
@samsonsoturian6013 5 ай бұрын
He did give away his profits to the church when he had them
@DannyDevitoOffical-TrustMeBro
@DannyDevitoOffical-TrustMeBro 5 ай бұрын
If the guy just discloses that he’s a member of a certain religion, okay great. It is a huge part of people’s lives, so there’s no issue with that affecting his life outside religious gatherings. If he inexplicably makes it a huge part of why you should entrust him with ridiculous amounts of money in an industry that’s all too similar to gambling, yea he’s just manipulating people
@John-doe955
@John-doe955 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone who claims to believe heavily in religious values while engaging in activities that have nothing to do with religion tends just be using religion as a shield from criticism and to gain trust by implying they will act morally.
@skindred1888
@skindred1888 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't that what everyone does ?
@Znwarp
@Znwarp 2 жыл бұрын
Or a nutbar
@Cbd_7ohm
@Cbd_7ohm 2 жыл бұрын
@@skindred1888 Religious people are always scammers and/or nuts and/or dumb.
@Cbd_7ohm
@Cbd_7ohm 2 жыл бұрын
@@Znwarp Yep
@aluisious
@aluisious 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone who is a Christian and a capitalist probably doesn't understand either.
@dangremaus1164
@dangremaus1164 3 жыл бұрын
LTCM did the same thing back in 1998-“Trust us, we’re the smartest guys in the business.” Massive amounts of leverage.
@skeetrix5577
@skeetrix5577 3 жыл бұрын
ahh good ol LTCM. seems they never learn
@dustinreynolds1552
@dustinreynolds1552 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah using risky algorithms that aren't fully tested and 100x leverage is basically a recipe of disaster
@techgod3670
@techgod3670 3 жыл бұрын
We want a video on LTCM strategy and it's fallout by coldfusion
@kirilmihaylov1934
@kirilmihaylov1934 3 жыл бұрын
@@dustinreynolds1552 it is . In this business risk management is the most important
@mattmcfly2165
@mattmcfly2165 2 жыл бұрын
whiffs of enron. lol
@FinancialShinanigan
@FinancialShinanigan 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely easier to gamble with other people's money
@RudolfJvVuuren
@RudolfJvVuuren 3 жыл бұрын
Easier yes, smart....?
@Meatball2022
@Meatball2022 3 жыл бұрын
@@RudolfJvVuuren very smart unfortunately. But sometimes criminal. Any time the investor gives money to a guy like this, they are trusting they know what they’re doing. That’s their mistake. It’s always smarter to gamble with someone else’s money. Win and you’re a hero. Lose and it’s THEIR problem
@manigill8571
@manigill8571 3 жыл бұрын
It's not easy bud. Some investors come after your life/ legally or illegally. Especially when 100+ mill is involved.
@Aliens1337
@Aliens1337 3 жыл бұрын
@@Meatball2022 I mean, dude is probably in protection for his life rn. You don’t lose billions of dollars and get off easily. You can fuck with poor people’s money, but fuck with rich people’s money and you’re a dead man.
@davemeads859
@davemeads859 3 жыл бұрын
Depends who's money it is it's no fun gambling with loan sharks money
@kenichi9103
@kenichi9103 Жыл бұрын
"no individual has lost so much money that quickly" SBF: "hold my beer"
@jefflight8188
@jefflight8188 Жыл бұрын
I thought soo too, then checked and so the video was out a year ago lolz
@theguardian308
@theguardian308 Жыл бұрын
Did he really “lose” it?
@Marco-fn6kg
@Marco-fn6kg Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Matt.m6
@Matt.m6 Жыл бұрын
Elon Musk: "hold my beer"
@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley
@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley Жыл бұрын
"With his car being a Hyundai, he wasn't your typical billionaire." Are we so sure about that?! 😂
@DarkestMirrored
@DarkestMirrored 3 жыл бұрын
God, I love how our entire economic system is based on gambling on imaginary money that can vanish over the course of days, hours, or even minutes.
@davidlorang7697
@davidlorang7697 3 жыл бұрын
It would be hilarious, except it affects us poor peasants.
@juandager5220
@juandager5220 3 жыл бұрын
I thought so too. Until an economist friend made me realize all value is imaginary. Compare a Casio with a Rolex. Why are their values so different?
@spdzodzo
@spdzodzo 3 жыл бұрын
that's why the best investment is into things that can't be stolen or lose value like knowledge or health
@rhood0001
@rhood0001 3 жыл бұрын
Buy Bitcoin.
@hirensingharay2157
@hirensingharay2157 3 жыл бұрын
Please read The Creature of Jekyll Island ! Hard facts exposing blinding faith.
@charlesrichard7715
@charlesrichard7715 3 жыл бұрын
Always gotta love when the richest people on the planet say, "Life isn't about money." Yea, ok dude.
@Player-ix7rx
@Player-ix7rx 3 жыл бұрын
This is a saying of the rich people to keep the poor out
@capmidnite
@capmidnite 3 жыл бұрын
@@Player-ix7rxThe rich have other ways of pulling up the ladder after they've made it, but saying such cliches probably isn't one of them.
@ascendrio
@ascendrio 3 жыл бұрын
Being rich can´t buy you happiness, but being poor can´t buy you anything.
@GoldenuggetZMC
@GoldenuggetZMC 3 жыл бұрын
It isnt
@capmidnite
@capmidnite 3 жыл бұрын
Those who built their fortunes largely from scratch often do it from an inner drive to succeed. Money and the things it can buy are just tangible evidence of their success. Those who inherit their money often just drift along in life, dabbling in the arts or philanthropy.
@PanduPoluan
@PanduPoluan 3 жыл бұрын
Always love your story of such disasters. You make things really clear for me, a non-economist. Keep up great work!
@JonatasAdoM
@JonatasAdoM 2 жыл бұрын
These could be shown on TV.
@txkos
@txkos 3 жыл бұрын
I guess that was God’s way of telling Bill he didn’t need his help after all.
@migovas1483
@migovas1483 3 жыл бұрын
God needs lots and lots of money, don't you know that? His glorious greed never ends...
@jimgsewell
@jimgsewell 3 жыл бұрын
God was obviously not pleased with him. Perhaps he should kill his first born, in order to get back on the right side of God.
@MayorSom
@MayorSom 3 жыл бұрын
God probably said, "Don't waste my time: If ain't Bezos wealth, then I don't wanna hear it!"
@karnasingh860
@karnasingh860 3 жыл бұрын
@@migovas1483 How dare you to assumes god's gender you homophobic bigot
@kytv9000
@kytv9000 3 жыл бұрын
If you win while praying for your christian god, it is god who has helped you win. If you lose, it is god that's telling you it does not belong to you. That is why your christian god on the other hand, is never wrong anyway.
@biglil771
@biglil771 3 жыл бұрын
This man is single-handedly stopping inflation
@mth469
@mth469 3 жыл бұрын
Bless his soul.
@kihbjcjdjd7022
@kihbjcjdjd7022 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@ajaymg1076
@ajaymg1076 3 жыл бұрын
Who???? This KZbinr??🤔
@iwams1
@iwams1 3 жыл бұрын
@@ajaymg1076 ur pretty thick
@First_Principals
@First_Principals 3 жыл бұрын
The government are doing everything they can to stop deflation. Can they continue?
@souvikrc4499
@souvikrc4499 Жыл бұрын
And now Archegos is now one of the big factors that led to Credit Suisse's downfall.
@Big_Tex
@Big_Tex 3 жыл бұрын
He forgot the 11th Commandment: Thou shalt be careful with the leverage.
@moofymoo
@moofymoo 3 жыл бұрын
shh! Moses lost that tablet, we don't speak about those commandments.
@j4genius961
@j4genius961 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣 And thou shall diversify
@loginavoidence12
@loginavoidence12 3 жыл бұрын
people who use leverage remind me of the homeless or working class buying lotto tickets. avoid doing that.
@jamesasimmons
@jamesasimmons 3 жыл бұрын
Book of Proverbs is full of verses about how evil debt is.
@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368
@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 3 жыл бұрын
And Moses said, "It literally cannot go tits up."
@rollyth6525
@rollyth6525 3 жыл бұрын
Used leverage once , flipped 500 in 5k then went -160 . Never again . Thank you
@cvspvr
@cvspvr 3 жыл бұрын
i tried leverage trading with bitcoin once. the leverage was set to 100x but i had no idea what it meant, i just thought i was spot trading. within 30 minutes, i turned my $100 into $300, and then lost it all in the next 5 minutes
@Lymoate
@Lymoate 3 жыл бұрын
@@cvspvr 😂
@sgtjonmcc
@sgtjonmcc 3 жыл бұрын
You both made the same mistake he did, when using leverage to any degree you have to reduce your "exposure". Your exposure is the percentage of your portfolio you place at risk. Rule of thumb when using leverage is to only use 10% of your typical exposure which is typically only 10% or less of your total portfolio. So if you do the math 10% of 10,000 is 1,000 amd 10% of that is 100. You do this because when in the case say 100x leverage 100 is multiplied (you borrow) 100 times your collateral 100 time 100 is 10,000. Doing this allows you to greatly increase the diversity of your portfolio. As a portfolio with $10,000 is equivalent to a portfolio of $1,000,000 dollars, only difference is the fact that you are extremely exposed to broad market volatility. As you could see from the example when the market turns out of your favor in one area you may be forced to liquidate other positions to compensate the losses.
@MrAaron5627
@MrAaron5627 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, talk about an emotional rollercoaster. That's why I throw 75% of my retirement into a Vanguard S&P index fund me let it ride. I'll allow 10%, max, for high risk gamble. I'll be honest though, I bought a lot of gold before during the covid debacle and feel like a genius, even though I know it was dumb luck.
@stephenwest2
@stephenwest2 3 жыл бұрын
@@sgtjonmcc Who said that they dumped all their portfolio on leverage?
@ronaldl9085
@ronaldl9085 3 жыл бұрын
"He started with 8.8 million dollars from family and friends!" That's how the rich get richer.
@Zordiak
@Zordiak 2 жыл бұрын
That ROI will turn $1000 into $2,270,000. Has nothing to do with the initial investment and everything to do with the rate of return. But "Muh rich people" right?
@deeree1037
@deeree1037 2 жыл бұрын
That’s because he ran something called a “small family office”. This type of hedge fund doesn’t take outsider funds and only takes money from… family and friends. Less scrutiny from SEC, more leverage opportunities, less client disclosure. But your also trading with less principal capital.
@pass_the_flask
@pass_the_flask 2 жыл бұрын
@@Zordiak 8.8 million gives you access to a fuckton more leverage than $1000 does
@bobbygetsbanned6049
@bobbygetsbanned6049 2 жыл бұрын
@@Zordiak Don't forget he lost everything and people still complaining about the rich getting richer lol.
@DawryMike
@DawryMike 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobbygetsbanned6049 Wow one rich guy lost his money so the whole sentiment must be false lol
@angelarch5352
@angelarch5352 3 жыл бұрын
"Money isn't everything... I want to spread the word of God." --> God smashes his stock to prove the point.
@BronzeAgeMan1350
@BronzeAgeMan1350 3 жыл бұрын
Oh God, your comment is funny!!
@chrisjenkins9978
@chrisjenkins9978 3 жыл бұрын
😂🤣😂
@nyackvaughn7863
@nyackvaughn7863 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@thatsawesome2060
@thatsawesome2060 3 жыл бұрын
That's nothing, latter he can just become Priest and people willingly give him their money to buy his mansion and private jet.
@fahimkhanss3118
@fahimkhanss3118 3 жыл бұрын
@@thatsawesome2060 Hey man... God told him to buy the Jet :p
@brunosmith6925
@brunosmith6925 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting to see that when stocks are on the rise, you're playing with imaginary money, but when the values fall, that suddenly becomes real money.
@terryhigson434
@terryhigson434 3 жыл бұрын
Vast majority of the money isnt real, they use wash trading to fake raise the price.
@Zyphera
@Zyphera 3 жыл бұрын
In the end the money represent all humans possession and work time. No matter the value of the money. The possessions and work time will be the same.
@najibzaoui4073
@najibzaoui4073 3 жыл бұрын
@@Zyphera not really. money is supposed to represent "value" hence it is subjective. think of a louis vuitton bag. it costs $50 to manufacture yet it retails in the thousands. and someone will pay that amount. because they see some sorts of intangible value in it. value is subjective.
@Zyphera
@Zyphera 3 жыл бұрын
@@najibzaoui4073 yes its subjective. Hence imaginary
@terryhigson434
@terryhigson434 3 жыл бұрын
@@najibzaoui4073 Something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.
@orobleh77
@orobleh77 3 жыл бұрын
I can understand making mistakes through un-calculated risks, but being a man of God and cheating or commiting fraud do not mix.
@Calebgoblin
@Calebgoblin 3 жыл бұрын
"it will probably be fine potentially" -Huang, probably
@ahahn928
@ahahn928 3 жыл бұрын
"It'll be fine" - Drinker
@RN-kl4kp
@RN-kl4kp 3 жыл бұрын
"If a walls street guy says it's not about money RUN "~ Rohan B Naik
@archockencanto1645
@archockencanto1645 3 жыл бұрын
Why do I feel like you're Rohan B Naik...
@luxurylifestyle4518
@luxurylifestyle4518 3 жыл бұрын
Lol you correct man
@dr.science_0177
@dr.science_0177 3 жыл бұрын
Who?
@fireflymedia97
@fireflymedia97 3 жыл бұрын
I can hear the run bgmmm 😂
@cvspvr
@cvspvr 3 жыл бұрын
ah yes, the famous rohan b naik!
@sawyertargosz1396
@sawyertargosz1396 3 жыл бұрын
He says he loves god more than money but with the way he makes money he must love god very much
@mikeyounes2756
@mikeyounes2756 3 жыл бұрын
"Devout Christian" as if that brings any credibility or ethics with it.
@CoDxMassacre
@CoDxMassacre 3 жыл бұрын
lmao, it might have been said as a warning sign
@willyolio9590
@willyolio9590 3 жыл бұрын
It means they have no ethics, anything they do they can always tell themselves "I'm doing it for God"
@katherinealvarez9216
@katherinealvarez9216 3 жыл бұрын
Like when a CEO/company says how they're "like a family" with thier employees.
@MickaelBNeron
@MickaelBNeron 3 жыл бұрын
Very much the opposite
@mrfake675
@mrfake675 3 жыл бұрын
It can if people practice what they preach. This guy was a fraud who used the faith to serve his interests not God's. Sadly not very uncommon. But people use anything for leverage these days.
@awijaya2116
@awijaya2116 3 жыл бұрын
The amazing thing about this story is that if we stopped it prior to him yeeting it all away, it'd be one of those inspirational self-made billionaire stories. Hwang's appetite for risk made him rich, but it was also responsible for his downfall.
@lukevortex1037
@lukevortex1037 3 жыл бұрын
Like Icarus flying to close to the sun...
@thequantumguy5067
@thequantumguy5067 3 жыл бұрын
it also shows that a persons ideas and beliefs , the very things that drive their actions and thus make what he or she is, are way more important than what they have managed to "achieve" in life, as they can very easily loose every thing they gained due to their beliefs and ideas being fundamentally flawed and unsustainable
@abrararifify
@abrararifify 3 жыл бұрын
This sounds exactly like the people in Wallstreetbets. The same people that make a million dollars due to their risk tolerance, but that same risk tolerance ends them losing all their money a few days later
@hollystiener16
@hollystiener16 3 жыл бұрын
He also practiced insider trading. He is not who he claims to be.
@awijaya2116
@awijaya2116 3 жыл бұрын
@@georginam824 I hate to defend Hwang, but the money he risked was either his or entrusted to him by personal friends. Archegos was a family office. It's why his personal net worth skyrocketed alongside the fund - even successful hedge fund managers don't see a 1:1 correlation between personal net worth and fund performance. So technically, he wasn't actually gambling with other people's resources. He's more like that guy who went bankrupt gambling at Las Vegas.
@kylekennedy420
@kylekennedy420 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t understand how Bill is still optimistic about his company, no bank will ever loan him funds ever again.
@victorgbs
@victorgbs 3 жыл бұрын
Don't underestimate greed and stupidity. Ever.
@inkbold8511
@inkbold8511 3 жыл бұрын
He done something similar before and bank forgive him after 2-3 years and started lending him money again. And this time maybe another 2-3 years they will do the same thing
@Abyss-Will
@Abyss-Will 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure the dude is still handling millions.
@blaquentgruppe6547
@blaquentgruppe6547 3 жыл бұрын
bill have.cash sitting he never be poor
@Hello-um5dj
@Hello-um5dj 2 жыл бұрын
Trust me - as a trader - there are good and bad days--- Just because he lost that amount in a day doesn't make him a bad trader- he just have to go back to the drawing board and revise his risk management ! his lost doesn't take away how brilliant he is in taking millions to billions! and people who have the skill will tell you - "I can lose it all and still go get it again tomorrow" ! im sure he will raise again !
@konsevdi
@konsevdi 3 жыл бұрын
Paused at 5:49 just to say that ARCHEGOS is the word for LEADER in Greek and that's what I think he wanted to portray with the name.
@roverrange3674
@roverrange3674 3 жыл бұрын
I believe you. You have the most greek name ever.
@konsevdi
@konsevdi 3 жыл бұрын
@@roverrange3674 lol thank you!
@ErugoPurakushi
@ErugoPurakushi 3 жыл бұрын
I paused too, since that seemed like a glaring mistake (I'm Greek too). Then I googled "archegos etymology" and, for some reason, the first result I got was this Definition 1.The chief leader, prince a. of Christ www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/greek/nas/archegos.html
@ameen2428
@ameen2428 3 жыл бұрын
@@roverrange3674 lol, so true
@konsevdi
@konsevdi 3 жыл бұрын
@@ErugoPurakushi sure that explains it! In terms of etymology however it's pretty clear.
@lazycomicgamer2313
@lazycomicgamer2313 3 жыл бұрын
I left this part of the Financial industry a few months before the whole archegos story was out. I had a contact at one of the Banks mentioned and they worked in a department that was somewhat closely associated(not fully) with Bill, When he call in looking for money My contact said he would alway end the call with "have a blessed day and thank you for doing gods work" and it just seemed off to him but his superiors told him its just who bill was. To me dude sounded like the scamTelevangelist you see on TV.
@Hello-um5dj
@Hello-um5dj 2 жыл бұрын
haha what's wrong with that - that was his believe- I thought we were in a world were people can be themselves. He was doing business with the bank- its not like they were giving him money for free!
@Setixir
@Setixir Жыл бұрын
​@@Hello-um5dj Hes using it as a shield. Acting extremely devout while doing things that explicitly go against that is uh... Ya know...hypocritical
@MrJosp87
@MrJosp87 3 жыл бұрын
"Archegos" ("Αρχηγός") means "Leader" or "Chief" in Greek
@kcanyon9108
@kcanyon9108 3 жыл бұрын
Bravo!
@giannispets
@giannispets 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah... i laughed when they said in the video that archegos means something about Christianity haha
@JohnSmith-eo5sp
@JohnSmith-eo5sp 2 жыл бұрын
Could've sworn ARCHON was Greek for magistrate
@seliamila1005
@seliamila1005 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSmith-eo5sp archon of Tevinter
@a753951852
@a753951852 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing says virtues of the gods like defaulting on margin calls..
@ArbiterofMankind
@ArbiterofMankind 3 жыл бұрын
And doesn’t the bible condemn the use of interest? Yet he borrows and shorts. 🤔
@ismailnyeyusof3520
@ismailnyeyusof3520 3 жыл бұрын
Bill Hwang, a well educated, savvy investor with the instincts of a hardened gambler and the missionary zeal of a religious extremist. Dangerous combination of three combustible materials. The secrecy of the whole thing was the most important part, I think, that made it so lethal.
@kirilmihaylov1934
@kirilmihaylov1934 3 жыл бұрын
He was a gambler
@yonisali3879
@yonisali3879 3 жыл бұрын
"A well educated, savvy investor with the instincts of a hardened gambler and the missionary zeal of a religious extremist. Dangerous " If you think about don't all all those things cancel each other out to some degree ?
@ismailnyeyusof3520
@ismailnyeyusof3520 3 жыл бұрын
@@yonisali3879 some, maybe, but obviously not enough!
@Ah-dz5rf
@Ah-dz5rf 3 жыл бұрын
religious extremist is a bit much
@small_joys2022
@small_joys2022 2 жыл бұрын
Just a fraud who gambled with other's money and tried to use religion to cover it up.
@DecontructRecreate
@DecontructRecreate Жыл бұрын
Small correction. Archegos, αρχηγός in Greek, literally means the one that leads, a leader. The word doesn’t have any connections to any religion.
@mahindra123456789
@mahindra123456789 3 жыл бұрын
Finally a version of this story I actually understand! Thank you
@zenyu94
@zenyu94 3 жыл бұрын
" He was the son of a pastor " - oh boy here we go again
@marindraganov5897
@marindraganov5897 3 жыл бұрын
Actually his faith has nothing to do with his investing style. Those are two quite separate things.
@SlapstickGenius23
@SlapstickGenius23 3 жыл бұрын
I think the pastor father might have abused Bill Hwang a lot, which is why the latter is shady as he is.
@mth469
@mth469 3 жыл бұрын
the only boy who could ever reach me was a son a preacher man.
@marindraganov5897
@marindraganov5897 3 жыл бұрын
@@mth469 Nice song!
@talkingeclectic4540
@talkingeclectic4540 3 жыл бұрын
Thats Ken Lay's upbringing, the father of Enron.
@robertdais9069
@robertdais9069 2 жыл бұрын
I love Cold Fusion stories & his music is slamming! Keep bringing awesome stories & dope ass beats!😁
@jl2525
@jl2525 3 жыл бұрын
‘God has a long term view’ - quote of the year! LMAO.
@petercowling6769
@petercowling6769 3 жыл бұрын
who knew
@anthonyprice1576
@anthonyprice1576 3 жыл бұрын
So funny🤣
@jeremykwak8586
@jeremykwak8586 3 жыл бұрын
God: That's right, I do, but you, Bill, you don't
@AH-wr1ir
@AH-wr1ir 3 жыл бұрын
it's incredible how many intelligent people can be infected by religion to the point where they say stuff like this and not even realise their own stupidity. At its very worst, they can even be convinced to fly planes into buildings.
@jaybee5315
@jaybee5315 3 жыл бұрын
“Bill was secretive, often conceiling particularly large holdings from his own analysts” So, a real life Bobby Axelrod
@TheDynamo94
@TheDynamo94 3 жыл бұрын
He doesnt look like a carnivore fucking monster.
@henryeghaghara9385
@henryeghaghara9385 3 жыл бұрын
Bobby was very particular about risk and he never hid position from analyst
@blaquentgruppe6547
@blaquentgruppe6547 3 жыл бұрын
until two analyst spoke to each other.SWAP FEE IS AMAZING..HE REFUSE TO BAIL..HE SO GODLY HOW COHEN END UP WITH METS
@bleachedrainbow
@bleachedrainbow 3 жыл бұрын
So basically my take-away from this is that this guy would have been one of the absolute "greats" at wallstreetbets
@AvastarBin
@AvastarBin 3 жыл бұрын
As Michael burry said : "He mistook leverage with genius." Edit : it's Steve eisman not burry
@trung2735
@trung2735 3 жыл бұрын
I pretty sure that was Steave Eisman
@L3uX
@L3uX 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, it’s Steve Eisman lol.
@Karzacan
@Karzacan 3 жыл бұрын
Wrong guy bruh
@CG-yq2xy
@CG-yq2xy 3 жыл бұрын
"I repeat this until I am sufficiently leveraged for my Personal Risk Tolerance" -Lehman Brothers (probably)
@gonzalomoreno560
@gonzalomoreno560 3 жыл бұрын
@@CG-yq2xy Guh
@glenjojo8371
@glenjojo8371 3 жыл бұрын
You'll always find Credit Suisse, UBS and the top banks always involved in these stories
@DpKris
@DpKris 3 жыл бұрын
Also may be soft bank too.
@coolbuddyshivam
@coolbuddyshivam 3 жыл бұрын
Goldman Sachs. They even helped a person rob $4 billion in Malaysia.
@curiosityshop2297
@curiosityshop2297 3 жыл бұрын
Dude credit Suisse has lost so many times I have no idea how they are still in business.
@peterpaul9320
@peterpaul9320 3 жыл бұрын
Just Deutsche missing
@andwithtthat
@andwithtthat 2 жыл бұрын
The way you effortlessly switch between different pronunciations of Hwang to calling this man Bill like he’s your friend has me DEAD! 🤣 Keep up the good work!!!
@RebuttalRecords
@RebuttalRecords 3 жыл бұрын
I don't trust anyone who claims to know the mind of God.
@ladyj6278
@ladyj6278 3 жыл бұрын
I don't trust anyone.... period!!
@sebastianhussain4537
@sebastianhussain4537 3 жыл бұрын
Yes how does someone know the mind that pops up with 404 error every time multiple messages try to describe it. Hard to describe a mind that has been seemed to be offline since BCE.
@sebastianhussain4537
@sebastianhussain4537 3 жыл бұрын
@Walter Morris Well if god doesn't exist then this non-existence is the 404 error.
@damssen3234
@damssen3234 3 жыл бұрын
That’s a great hairline. You’d think the stress would have destroyed it
@mathiaslarsen6829
@mathiaslarsen6829 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao he bought it
@mxnty83
@mxnty83 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@thandoreviews8886
@thandoreviews8886 3 жыл бұрын
beautiful head of hair hey
@keno9964
@keno9964 3 жыл бұрын
He not stressed, other peoples money.
@Visionary0001
@Visionary0001 3 жыл бұрын
Note that the guy who is interviewing Bill Hwang is literally starting to laugh in Bill's face, (6:36) when bill says he wants investors to "now the reality of God."
@Dogche
@Dogche 3 жыл бұрын
I have class from 8:30am and it’s 4:50am here in NewZealand. Let me grab some sleep Dagogo
@unbeatable3d
@unbeatable3d 3 жыл бұрын
you still have 4 hours to sleep
@mytradingjournal123
@mytradingjournal123 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Dagogo uploaded it at 4:00 in the morning!?
@julien2231
@julien2231 3 жыл бұрын
@@unbeatable3d way to math.
@TJsVette
@TJsVette 3 жыл бұрын
Get some rest
@sagbear
@sagbear 3 жыл бұрын
Better watch later after class
@RXH88
@RXH88 3 жыл бұрын
I find it funny how he was playing the GOD card and throwing GOD into everything, as a way to justify what he was doing, when in fact he was nothing more than an gambling addict. LOL
@dr-k1667
@dr-k1667 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@Remember-Death
@Remember-Death 3 жыл бұрын
That was very "Christian" of him.
@madamec.j7363
@madamec.j7363 3 жыл бұрын
did you see the story in the news recently of the nun who gambled???
@nothingineternityterms
@nothingineternityterms 3 жыл бұрын
I think he met his goal. When the bank executives found out Hwang was out of money, they each yelled "JESUS!"
@vishalsinghbaghel
@vishalsinghbaghel 3 жыл бұрын
@@nothingineternityterms LMAO😂😂😂
@Mayor1248
@Mayor1248 8 ай бұрын
I keep loosing in real trade but win in Demo. Should I give up on Trade? What should I do? How may I do better? What I'm I doing incorrectly?
@vincentstewart1843
@vincentstewart1843 8 ай бұрын
here is my problem I have been making losses trying to make trade. I thought to trade demo is just like the real..can anyone help me out or at least tell me on what to do.
@maureen...
@maureen... 8 ай бұрын
I always advice new members to have an orientation on how it works before getting involved. Trade offers more benefits than just holding.
@maureen...
@maureen... 8 ай бұрын
Kate Floretta in stagram
@maureen...
@maureen... 8 ай бұрын
Google "katefxfloretta" anywhere take classes and learn to trade.
@Godwin_blessing_felix
@Godwin_blessing_felix 8 ай бұрын
having a mentor is also very important when it comes to Trade, with out that, it can be very frustrating.
@leosketches6640
@leosketches6640 3 жыл бұрын
Sad and impressive at the same time
@Kncperseus
@Kncperseus 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that he's still alive and sane after losing 20 billion $ in 2 days is proof that he is no average guy. Making 20 billion $ is in itself a feat, but surviving its loss is a span of time so short?? Goddamn
@najibzaoui4073
@najibzaoui4073 3 жыл бұрын
high risk tolerance.
@IWantToStayAtYourHouse
@IWantToStayAtYourHouse 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly i would probably neck myself if i was this guy
@MOTIVATIONBYDAR
@MOTIVATIONBYDAR 2 жыл бұрын
He is probably very cold blooded which is a blessing and a curse as a trader. A blessing because wins or losses are both taken with no emotion but also a curse because you are ok with losing a bunch of other peoples money with no remorse or feeling of obligation to those investors.
@thefirsttrillionaire2925
@thefirsttrillionaire2925 2 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised someone hasn’t tried to knock him off yet
@supetrarealidadsucks7304
@supetrarealidadsucks7304 2 жыл бұрын
@@thefirsttrillionaire2925 can't.
@michaelhigdon2912
@michaelhigdon2912 2 жыл бұрын
“No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money.” - Jesus.
@MixSonaProductions
@MixSonaProductions 3 жыл бұрын
i like it when you cover financial matters. Your channel has grown a lot. I have been with you since your note 2 video
@AuthPrank
@AuthPrank 3 жыл бұрын
What I understood is that the man has a Gambling Addiction, Getting High off of taking Risks.
@YoungDen
@YoungDen 3 жыл бұрын
High risk
@ericstewart0921
@ericstewart0921 2 жыл бұрын
I love this channel. Always learn something new.
@Mechaneer
@Mechaneer 3 жыл бұрын
You know just what I like to see! I've been wondering who was going to be the first to make a good video about Archegos because I'm certainly interested in WTF they did and what exactly happened, but not enough to actually look up and read articles from multiple sources to learn about it.
@Zantsak
@Zantsak 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another high quality piece of work. It is just frightening how greed can run rampant.
@nicholaschristian7189
@nicholaschristian7189 3 жыл бұрын
Risk management... A lesson so simple and yet so hard to learn because practicing it may go against the very fabrics of our beings.
@RainMan52
@RainMan52 3 жыл бұрын
people who shout out "Gawd" at least 6 times in one sentence scare me.
@redhidinghood9337
@redhidinghood9337 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah there are many crazy christians from south korea. Many cults as well
@victorugo3875
@victorugo3875 3 жыл бұрын
I tend to trust the openly irreligious business person more than the business person that oversells their religiosity as a way to earn trust.
@RA-tg1dp
@RA-tg1dp 3 жыл бұрын
Never trust a holier-than-thou fanatic. Also, if you belive in god in the 21st century, you are a fool.
@victorugo3875
@victorugo3875 3 жыл бұрын
@@RA-tg1dp Word
@drafman1
@drafman1 3 жыл бұрын
@@RA-tg1dp if you really are this close minded then i feel truly sorry for you.
@LargeInCharge77
@LargeInCharge77 3 жыл бұрын
@@drafman1 its just called having an education and not living in the stone age using magic to explain things we dont understand
@gladitsnotme
@gladitsnotme 3 жыл бұрын
Tf kinda logic is this? Don't trust either of them idiot, you trust Jeffrey Epstein over this guy?? Wtf
@muppetb.lansing8374
@muppetb.lansing8374 3 жыл бұрын
This reminds of South Park, the banking episode; ".....aaaaaand, its gone!"
@donnag7288
@donnag7288 4 күн бұрын
😂. I remember that. !
@KLK01
@KLK01 3 жыл бұрын
He should be a mod at wallstreetbets lmao.
@inferno3080
@inferno3080 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@MayorSom
@MayorSom 3 жыл бұрын
Financial Times & The Economist are scratching their heads, "How are we not able to produce contents like this? How is one-man band KZbinr making richer and more engaging contents in our niche, our bread and butter?"
@adi-kr6sh
@adi-kr6sh 2 жыл бұрын
BEST KZbin Channel !
@bjkarana
@bjkarana 3 жыл бұрын
Mr. Huang: "I'm wildly wealthy, but _life isn't about money_ ." God: "Hold my beer!"
@rosekelvin9409
@rosekelvin9409 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@Mr.Happy7ODSubscribe
@Mr.Happy7ODSubscribe 3 жыл бұрын
Ayo
@ajaypaul5184
@ajaypaul5184 3 жыл бұрын
God or wall street
@stellaofthelake3451
@stellaofthelake3451 3 жыл бұрын
lmfao
@bobblue_west
@bobblue_west 3 жыл бұрын
Just a sleazy gambler and preaching Christ. Now called virtue signalling.
@umu
@umu 3 жыл бұрын
When people use God as a trading strategy... you got to get out.
@georgio3753
@georgio3753 3 жыл бұрын
Even a company where the CEO uses God as a business strategy - quit. They won't pay you.
@enkidu9298
@enkidu9298 3 жыл бұрын
@@georgio3753 Financial institutions are a risk to work for, regardless of their stated affiliations.
@georgio3753
@georgio3753 3 жыл бұрын
@@enkidu9298 True. I'm not knocking God. He gives people the ability to make profit. I'm knocking people who use God as a shield for their own ineptness. Like you take these risks and pray for a miracle when God gave you a mind to make better decisions.... Rather let people think you are a crook and don't drag God into it. In my opinion.
@mrfake675
@mrfake675 3 жыл бұрын
I actually thought God told me to buy Nio stock and never worry about money again. I did and I don't have to worry about money again. I'm also bipolar and can get delusional from time to time.
@TheThirdLieberkind
@TheThirdLieberkind 3 жыл бұрын
This is the main reason I am very hesitant to invest in ARK.. Cathie Woods "consults God" with every stock purchase. That's a big red flag for me
@FozzyZ28
@FozzyZ28 3 жыл бұрын
Along with a pleasant voice, your factual information is correct. 👍
@fhozouri
@fhozouri 3 жыл бұрын
As usual, very interesting and comprehensive subjects. Thank you
@SubvertTheState
@SubvertTheState 3 жыл бұрын
When wealthy people roll snake eyes: "I think the regulators need to get involved"
@fredbailey5143
@fredbailey5143 3 жыл бұрын
Invest just 10% of your earnings, your own hand-picked stocks. You'll realize that you have beaten "Monday blues" for the life.
@smithwillison6345
@smithwillison6345 3 жыл бұрын
There's a mystery in investment.
@jamesmarcus4105
@jamesmarcus4105 3 жыл бұрын
At one time, I worked for a 410k retirement plan company that handles retirements plans for transamerica, vanguards, and all others 410k and IRA corporations operating in America. I can tell you, at first that retirement plans are a scam designed to make investors money without spending a dime of their own money.
@oscarkelly3378
@oscarkelly3378 3 жыл бұрын
When you work on something that only has the capacity to make you 5 dollars, it doesn't matter how much harder you work. The most you will make is 5 dollars, very simple.
@tylerwilson5747
@tylerwilson5747 3 жыл бұрын
I've different news about bitcoin mining and how tricky it is but people still say it's safe, I just need a reliable business expert.
@ericrobert4651
@ericrobert4651 3 жыл бұрын
@@tylerwilson5747 I made a cool withdrawal of $9400 on my first trade from Bitcoin mining and it was mind blowing.
@rvill6146
@rvill6146 3 жыл бұрын
Remember: "You cannot serve God and money at the same time"
@davidrubel6295
@davidrubel6295 3 жыл бұрын
You can if money comes first...
@班伯恩
@班伯恩 3 жыл бұрын
Both of which are man-made concepts
@saveachildkillacaucroach4266
@saveachildkillacaucroach4266 3 жыл бұрын
@@班伯恩 Based
@sorrychangedmyusername3594
@sorrychangedmyusername3594 3 жыл бұрын
@@saveachildkillacaucroach4266 money is God 😳
@tarotxiii9830
@tarotxiii9830 3 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile the pope in his gold gilded pallace.
@nasif3173
@nasif3173 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos. Get to learn many new and interesting things from your videos
@MetroVancouverASMRGuy
@MetroVancouverASMRGuy 2 жыл бұрын
These videos are so addictive, great work.
@avi4francis
@avi4francis 3 жыл бұрын
Lesson Learnt: However personal it may seem, always make sure your portfolio looks like something others would love to invest in!
@ScientistInvests
@ScientistInvests 3 жыл бұрын
Once again religion acts as a shield for shady stuff. Nice breakdown, thanks!
@csnipper524
@csnipper524 Жыл бұрын
These people seem to forget the first rule of gambling, the house always wins, not you.
@SpragginsDesigns
@SpragginsDesigns 3 жыл бұрын
Never even heard of this. But my engagement rate of your videos is: 100% and subscribed with All notifications on. Also why I don't have Netflix.
@alexanderg1935
@alexanderg1935 3 жыл бұрын
When Hwang tells you there's nothing Hwang, but the leverage is guided by a prayer and a song, you know something is very Hwang.
@DoggoWillink
@DoggoWillink 2 жыл бұрын
This is a good video on the background and mechanics of this, but I’d like to mention the Chinese government’s tightening on foreign listed (US) stocks and regulation on certain stocks such as online education stocks (which iirc were essentially banned overnight). He had heavy, leveraged positions in a couple of these stocks and almost overnight he lost an insane amount on them. I still remember when this happened and watching the market.
@wvlfboyy
@wvlfboyy 3 жыл бұрын
And as a fellow degenerate said: "Money is just paper"
@SIOYGYG
@SIOYGYG 3 жыл бұрын
Analfarmer2
@bluemamba5317
@bluemamba5317 3 жыл бұрын
Well it is
@Azmodaeus49
@Azmodaeus49 3 жыл бұрын
It's actually cotton and linen, not paper
@netro4680
@netro4680 3 жыл бұрын
Unless someone puts the value more than a paper...but again, still a paper
@channelsixtysix066
@channelsixtysix066 3 жыл бұрын
When it is an electronic transaction, it isn't even that. Then there's crypto currencies.
@browncarey9411
@browncarey9411 3 жыл бұрын
If you're here in 2021 and you don't have any investment. Then you are not safe. Invest now! it's better late than never.
@BrettmDumas
@BrettmDumas 3 жыл бұрын
Cryptocurrency is on a bull run and alot of people are definitely going to miss out on that just like last time.
@josephwebb6334
@josephwebb6334 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a huge fan of Crypto. I hold a few coin in my wallet.
@johnsaunders6530
@johnsaunders6530 3 жыл бұрын
The Market is about Bitcoin at the moment.
@codyadams5430
@codyadams5430 3 жыл бұрын
Now is the best time to invest in bitcoin, been earning alot from it over the past month. Bitcoin is at it's booming level. Its worth $ 50k now.
@codyadams5430
@codyadams5430 3 жыл бұрын
I think everyone should own at least one.
@rexscipio3344
@rexscipio3344 11 ай бұрын
This guy earned millions on insider trading and not only didn't spend a night in jail but turned around and continued to receive funding from commercial banks and continue to play with hughly leveraged derivatives. But Martha went to jail for an entire year for a few 100 thousand.
@TheDanaYiShow
@TheDanaYiShow 3 жыл бұрын
This is margin risk on another level, great video about a messy topic!
@BunneRabb
@BunneRabb 3 жыл бұрын
"Oh, I get it. Y'all are a couple of bookies." - Billy Ray Valentine - "Trading Places".
@biologyenableswhatculturep1497
@biologyenableswhatculturep1497 3 жыл бұрын
Such a insightful video, I have watched this 3 times now and I keep coming back to watch it all again. You make content live and that lands right in my mind :)
@AjinkyaMahajan
@AjinkyaMahajan 3 жыл бұрын
I love this channel. The content of this channel has transformed from great technology videos like HTC, Samsung, GE, Tesla to scam buster in recent years. Previously it was an inspiration now it has become just an information blog
@fredricklopez4668
@fredricklopez4668 3 жыл бұрын
Mr Silverster Wilfred sent me my total payout today. I really appreciate, so proud of myself for taking the risk when I did.
@lucacorbertta4974
@lucacorbertta4974 3 жыл бұрын
Hi sir can I get tips... Losing very badly?
@fredricklopez4668
@fredricklopez4668 3 жыл бұрын
But Silverster Wilfred strategy has proven to be unrivaled?
@xikhan6674
@xikhan6674 3 жыл бұрын
Wow you trade with Silverster Wilfred too? Honestly that guy is incredible, Its just sad you only get hear about him in the comment section.
@rebeccamolnar5599
@rebeccamolnar5599 3 жыл бұрын
Another testimony about Silverster Wilfred's goodwill he has a way of delivering, I just made another £ 9,500 I am reinvesting £ 800 next week this is exciting!!!
@caroldavis484
@caroldavis484 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you he understands the market movements and knows when exactly to call/put with this, risk rate and loss rate has totally been less, he manages account, and always give you PDF of how he made the gains with his technique after the trading section, I'm happy I'm working with him, not surprised seeing other students of Silverster Wilfred, his strategy unique and also the best.
@SPYD0R
@SPYD0R 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent piece of reporting on this issue and great job on the presentation too.
@Chemson1989
@Chemson1989 3 жыл бұрын
Dr.Strange: "Is that everyone?" Wong: "I want more."
@metallicarchaea1820
@metallicarchaea1820 3 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment 👏
@IronMan-fi3xz
@IronMan-fi3xz 3 жыл бұрын
*Hwang
@SSJfraz
@SSJfraz 3 жыл бұрын
Always gives me a chuckle when I hear a multi billionaire capitalist talk about how close to god they are. He clearly wasn't as close as he thought.
@PhoenixLive_YT
@PhoenixLive_YT 2 жыл бұрын
Where i live you CAN'T use money you DON'T own on gambling with stocks because shit like this will happen.
@altongrimes
@altongrimes 3 жыл бұрын
"Family offices" is a reality I know nothing about but am intrigued to learn more about.
@MOTIVATIONBYDAR
@MOTIVATIONBYDAR 2 жыл бұрын
It just means he had only family working with him like the mafia so they could ensure any illegal activity wouldn’t be leaked by future employees because they were all family and all benefited from it. Churches have been doing this for a while. Pastors appointment only family members to the churches board so any money that is being stolen from the members is never leaked because anybody in the know is family and is benefiting from the nefarious activities.
@samsonsoturian6013
@samsonsoturian6013 5 ай бұрын
It's a hedge fund that doesn't take outside investors. A retail trader that hires analysts
@MichaelGGarry
@MichaelGGarry 2 жыл бұрын
"They mistook leverage for genius” - Steve Eisman
@mennoknight78
@mennoknight78 3 жыл бұрын
The 'interview' at 6:26 feels like a scene from Mr. Show. It's almost surreally funny.
@666lupine666
@666lupine666 3 жыл бұрын
"wacky year" yeah when RobinHood and Citadel illegally and unilaterally suspended trading, that sure was wacky.
@snowballeffect7812
@snowballeffect7812 3 жыл бұрын
That's not what happened and I wish people would look at actual facts instead of taking conjecture and running with it. RobinHood is shady as f, but at least go after them for actual crimes and shady stuff instead of a lack of liquidity forcing a suspension.
@battokizu
@battokizu 3 жыл бұрын
@@snowballeffect7812 >conjecture Uh they suspending the ability to buy, and fucking with the market. Tell us how thats conjecture. Its literally out in the open.
@iwankazlow2268
@iwankazlow2268 3 жыл бұрын
@@snowballeffect7812 Their liquidity was in question because citadel is the biggest customer of robin hood, and was about to become a pile of sh1t it it should be. They stopped trading with the intention of stopping a short squeeze. And slowly allowed bying after citadel had been handed a big fat financial aid by other players so they don't cause a domino effect.
@snowballeffect7812
@snowballeffect7812 3 жыл бұрын
@@iwankazlow2268 yeah? You have actual documentation of this being the case?
@snowballeffect7812
@snowballeffect7812 3 жыл бұрын
@@battokizu WHY? I'm saying the reason the guy gave for the cause is conjecture. Keep up, kid.
@WickedlNl
@WickedlNl 3 жыл бұрын
And I felt bad when I bought a digital top up card of $50 that I never received the code for.
@moepharmo
@moepharmo 2 жыл бұрын
When your winning it feels you can never loose, but you need an exit plan always!
@ayoubchaban7837
@ayoubchaban7837 3 жыл бұрын
Whenever I hear "In the name of God" I check if I still have money in my pocket
@AS-yo2xz
@AS-yo2xz 3 жыл бұрын
Just like taxeses
@ayoubchaban7837
@ayoubchaban7837 3 жыл бұрын
@@AS-yo2xz Naaah with taxes you can at least see a bit of it in education, health care, transportation...
@tomis1439
@tomis1439 Жыл бұрын
Ftx.. Hold my beer!
@dicedpotato5587
@dicedpotato5587 3 жыл бұрын
So the Total Return Swaps are basically CFD (Contract for Differences/Spread Betting) in the UK? Difference is CFDs are provided by market makers and TRS are directively dealt with banks? Both are leveraged and will result in margin calls when markets move against traders?
@ChideNorms
@ChideNorms 3 жыл бұрын
“It would be easier to pass a camel through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter heaven.”
@mytradingjournal123
@mytradingjournal123 3 жыл бұрын
He sure is able to enter heaven easier now.
@ChideNorms
@ChideNorms 3 жыл бұрын
@@mytradingjournal123 lol truuuuu
@AgerioBoss
@AgerioBoss 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChideNorms i'm sorry but that's a typo search it up if you want.
@josephnapolitano5864
@josephnapolitano5864 3 жыл бұрын
Was looking for this comment. God is giving him a third chance now to live a "poor" man's life worth of entering heaven. Who wants to take bets on him going for that third try. Of course we are going to use borrowed money who's in?
@josephnapolitano5864
@josephnapolitano5864 3 жыл бұрын
@@AgerioBoss literally every translation says "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God." STFU just admit Jesus was a dirt poor socialist and not fucking supply side corporate shill Jesus.
@johnmcclain2848
@johnmcclain2848 2 жыл бұрын
the more things change, the more they stay the same
@IkeMann100
@IkeMann100 3 жыл бұрын
Archegos translates to Chief. I know it because i am Greek. It is found in ancient Greek as well, so it predates Jesus.
@Joe-zh1wl
@Joe-zh1wl 3 жыл бұрын
Let's hope we see a video on Ken Griffin and Citadel in the near future....HODL
@Malanaras
@Malanaras 3 жыл бұрын
Sure we’ll do fellow ape 👐🏻💎
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