When should you pick Laravel over WordPress?

What exactly can you use Laravel for? How does it differ from WordPress? When does it make sense to use Laravel versus WordPress, and what can we learn from the Laravel approach to open source work? Come on an adventure with us as we dive into Laravel and build a mini project over the course of the next few episodes and compare and contrast it with our experience in the WordPress world.
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[@clickadelic7681]

As a WP Veteran, there's a whole new world breaking up, when you discover Laravel, and yes it's awesome. This Podcast helps a lot get things speed up. Thanks a lot ❤

[@kerapetsimajor]

Exciting series, let's keep it coming

[@davisvilums]

This podcast is something that I needed in my life for a long time!

[@viewsourcefm]

🎉 🙌🏽

[@losmandev]

Great video, thank you for the comparisons and going deep with it

[@kerimtim]

Thank you for this episode first of all! My question is. You install all those packages e.g Breeze and others, and they're really helpful. But the question is the Design. How do you then customize the design, if the client wants it the other way?

[@viewsourcefm]

When you install Breeze it copies a bunch of template files into your project. You can edit them as much as you'd like, as long as you're keeping the functionality in place. But you can modify the HTML, change the classes, etc.

[@clarkkentgwapo1]

Why you compare cms vs framework

[@pangeranwiguan]

For me, if (want to build website for B2C where end user doesn’t need to mess with backend managment) { WordPress } else if (some “web based application” like accounting system, HR, etc) { Laravel } else { Maybe other frameworks}

[@yasirtahirkheli74]

you are speaking my exact words

[@techietoons]

You can use both combined. Search for Corcel.

[@demystifyingdev]

Fascinating topic! I actually explored Laravel as a WordPress alternative at one point, and one thing surprised me: there aren't really any CMS based on Laravel (Oxygen went private, a fork hasn't really been maintained) that one can choose from. Granted Laravel could be useful only for specific projects, as per your discussion, but why aren't there more up-to-date CMS being offered that are based on Laravel? Just a thought...

[@viewsourcefm]

Hmm. I don't know if that's true. Filament, Statamic, and October CMS have a strong community around each of them. Of those 3, I've personally heard of Statamic the most and I know a few influential folks who chose it instead of WordPress (Paul Jarvis and Jack Ellis of Fathom, Justin Jackson of Transistor.fm, etc) - Aurooba

[@demystifyingdev]

But they are paid CMS's, @@viewsourcefm . Both October and Statamic. I guess WordPress is too (between ACF being useless unless PRO plus wp com scandal) if that fact does not raise any concerns.

[@viewsourcefm]

True, they are paid, but they are excellent CMSes with a strong community - every community/project has to find a way to support itself for long term sustainability. - Aurooba

[@demystifyingdev]

@@viewsourcefm thought you guys supported open source... there are many strong communities that have found many ways to monetize without abandoning open source principles

[@viewsourcefm]

Yes! We're great supporters of open source, and it's true that a lot of open source software is also free, but open source software doesn't have to be free. Core WordPress, of course, is open source software that is available free of charge. :) If you're interesting in learning more about the differences, there's more info here: opensource.com/resources/what-open-source - Aurooba

[@aderangedman]

Would point out, if you use roots/radicle or roots/sage you can have both

[@andgoedu]

Laravel is awesome it can be used even with wordpress in bedrock environment & sage theme.

[@programmingholic]

great one, thanks for sharing insights.

[@seiuwatches]

Lets go!

[@TheBeeOBee]

I swear I just said that out loud right before I scrolled down to see you say it.

[@polarxta2833]

First best friend with Laravel - VScode.

[@ripplesr5655]

Laravel-PhpStorm

[@karlson2804]

WordPress is bullshit and I must fight with this every fucking day.

[@1080pixel]

Reasons for your pov? Can't relate (using WP & Bricksbuilder)

[@Zircuitz]

@@1080pixel It's a security nightmare... Look at the CVE's for that thing, It's frightening! You'd probably have to update it multiple times a day if you want to have it remain secure, and even that might not be enough. There are tons of people developing plugins for that thing that have no idea what they're doing in terms of keeping things secure. Not to mention all the low-effort, trash websites that show up because of it. And WP being used for things it really wasn't designed for time and time again.

[@georgezimmer5622]

When you're a developer and not a designer selling $100 bucks websites on fiverr

[@JamesAutoDude]

What really ticks me off is when a wordpress person claims and sells their websites like it takes huge skills and rips off customers with that.

[@BrianCoords]

Anybody ripping people off is bad. But there are definitely situations where WordPress is used on complex projects worth tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars. Ultimately people should pay for the value they get out of the project, not the tech stack.

[@rawahapool]

WordPress is trash, laravel is above WordPress