When the Germans Came to England - 1937 Donington Grand Prix - Assetto Corsa

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@GPLaps
@GPLaps 3 жыл бұрын
I realize I said "Buckle Up", however of course, seatbelts were not a thing in 1937... So try to hold on!
@gr0bbelaar
@gr0bbelaar 3 жыл бұрын
I love how von Brauschitz are lighting up his tires EVERYWHERE
@zetetick395
@zetetick395 3 жыл бұрын
No seat-belts? '😨' (Because motorsports in 1937 wasn't deadly enough already)
@gr0bbelaar
@gr0bbelaar 3 жыл бұрын
@@zetetick395 Seatbelts weren't introduced in F1 until 1972 as drivers would rather be thrown from a burning car than trapped in it.
@salisburythefox8324
@salisburythefox8324 3 жыл бұрын
XD
@X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X
@X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X 3 жыл бұрын
@@gr0bbelaar Just as he did in reality
@jimdamentalist
@jimdamentalist 3 жыл бұрын
Hey. This is a really great video and captures the vibe I was trying to create when I built this track... I have Since acquired some more great research about the back straight (which right now is a little too wide) so I'm defo gonna update this track in the new year
@jeffro5032
@jeffro5032 3 жыл бұрын
Jim , you are a dang legend in your sim track creations. Been a fan of all yours and Terra's work for a long time. Thank you so much for all that you do for the community!
@asleeds
@asleeds 3 жыл бұрын
That’s great news. This is one of my favourite mod tracks.
@julianbailey2749
@julianbailey2749 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent track, you can really see the lines of the current Donnington circuit as tweaks to this 1937 layout.
@landoflogic107
@landoflogic107 3 жыл бұрын
“And was killed shortly thereafter. Never ever really raced again.” Well I’d hope not.
@Gracievision
@Gracievision 3 жыл бұрын
He could have at least made the effort.
@flashpeter625
@flashpeter625 3 жыл бұрын
"Fun" fact about Rosemeyer's death. The car he died in was, in fact, an unintentional ground effect vehicle. This is 1938. They added fairings to the streamliner speed record car, what we would call sideskirts today, in an effort to increase stability and decrease drag. They did not understand that the floor now acted as a Venturi tunnel. They even measured a model of the car with zero lift in a wind tunnel. But their testing rig was only set up to measure lift, not downforce, because they only cared about the car not taking off at speed. So they thought that the zero lift was a measurement error, and did not realize what's really going on. Of course they knew how airplanes work, and that you could achieve downforce on a car using upside-down wings (which was actually practically tested even in the 1920's), but wings were considered too draggy, and they did not understand that downforce can be produced through other methods. This car had a tiny bit more drag than without the fairings, but much more directional stability, so they ran it, with Rosemeyer in the seat. Unfortunately, the body panels were not ready for the aerodynamic load, a cross wind unsettled the car at a very high speed, some body panels were torn off, and the car flew off the road, throwing poor Rosemeyer out. The scariest thought about this debacle is that the engineers absolutely had the capacity, resources and tools to understand ground effect and use it intentionally. I can't imagine what would racing look like if any of the engineers applied a little bit more of the German perfectionism on one day, investigated the zero lift measurement, and realized what was up with that.
@MentalParadox
@MentalParadox 3 жыл бұрын
Legend has it that some nights at Donington, at the stroke of midnight, you can still hear the sound of Rosemeyer's Mercedes roaring around the circuit.
@acrock21
@acrock21 3 жыл бұрын
@@MentalParadox in that case " never ever really raced again " would be a false statement... cause he is still racing there...
@geoffreycarson2311
@geoffreycarson2311 3 жыл бұрын
SO SAD FORGET POLITICS ROSMEYER & HIS LOVELY GIRL WERE THE ICONS OF THE HIGHSPEED SPORTS WORLD BACK THEN !!!MIKE HAILWOOD HAD THE SAME GUTS AS HIM !!!!😮THEY DONT MAKE THEM LIKE that USED TOO 😨😨😨😨😨😴g
@seanomatopoeia
@seanomatopoeia 3 жыл бұрын
"Back then, Germany seemed an entire world away from England." B-17s: "It's not that far."
@jamesbehra2690
@jamesbehra2690 3 жыл бұрын
And wimpeys and lancs .
@Logan912
@Logan912 3 жыл бұрын
Silver arrows in the front and then the rest of the finishers behind them. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
@cpt_nordbart
@cpt_nordbart 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but the driver is a Brit now rather than a German Baron.
@Zonda1996
@Zonda1996 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly we don’t get to see quite the variation in engines across the field this time round.
@k-osmonaut8807
@k-osmonaut8807 2 жыл бұрын
A year later, hoo boy did this not age well
@adamrakhadifa6933
@adamrakhadifa6933 2 жыл бұрын
Red Bull Honda didn't exist yet
@Argent_99
@Argent_99 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who has a real affinity for auto racing from the first half of the 20th century - thank you! This was amazing. The bit about the shoe being set on fire I’m pretty sure was Herman Lang and if memory serves me right, it was more of a case where the heat transfer from the engine caused the sole of his shoe to melt to the pedal, but he refused to stop and wound up with second and third degree burns (he was a very flinty character who really had to fight for every single thing within the team; giving up was not in his DNA.) Now for a little bit of superfluous pedantry (sorry!) - bernd rosemeyer’s last name is (more or less) best pronounced ‘roe-say-meyer’ (just slur the first two syllables together a little) or think of how us ‘Muricans say ‘Rosé’ (the pinkish wine variety.) you nailed von Brauchitsch, though, and I’d say that one is much harder to get right (and I totally excuse not even mentioning Rudolf Caracciola - that’s a bit tricky even in german.) Lastly, for anyone who wants to read up on this era of racing, Alfred Neubauer’s biography is a pretty fantastic source - if you can find it, that is. His style is more of a raconteur recalling his life and so has an almost novel-like quality to it. Whereas the German version (‘Männer, Frauen und Motoren’ - literally, ‘men, women and engines’) is still in print/readily available (I read it as such when I was a teen), the English version (‘speed was my life’) has been out of print since the initial publication in the late ‘50s (I keep looking for a decent reading copy that doesn’t cost ~$150.) Anyway, maybe you should try tackling pre-world war I Grand Prix racing next...;)
@tonyrata4796
@tonyrata4796 3 жыл бұрын
I have heard a different story about the "shoes on fire". The story I heard was that Rudi Caracciola needed to finish a particular race (sorry , not sure which race) in order to win the European Championship and his feet were being roasted. In those days sharing a car was permitted and each driver was credited with the result, so Neubauer decided to swap drivers and ensure the car finished. I'm not sure who the other driver was but Herman Lang sounds about right. The information came from the excellent dvd series "Racing through Time " which was released ,I believe ,in the late '90's . Now this has me curious , think I'll go fish out my copy and take another look..... Stay Safe!
@flashpeter625
@flashpeter625 3 жыл бұрын
Caracciola is not a German name at all, he had Italian ancestry some three centuries back, the House of Caracciolo. So the pronunciation is anybody's guess. It would be best to use the pronunciation he used himself. But since I have no idea, and do not know if there are any recordings, I use an Italian pronunciation, that feels natural to me.
@jcgabriel1569
@jcgabriel1569 2 жыл бұрын
Still, one had to take Neubauer's stories with a pinch of salt. He's not averse to spicing stories up...
@Vollhirni
@Vollhirni 3 жыл бұрын
The sound of the car is just amazing. Just imagine having >500hp in those days on these tires! Those drivers were just so dedicated to what they were doing! I think when Rosemeyer was killed on the Autobahn doing the record attempts they reached over 440km/h in those cars, beautifully streamlined for the attempts. Rosemeyer stated, that at those speeds he could only hold the steering wheel between his fingertips, because a minimal movement actually put him on the on the other side of the road!
@Villoresi
@Villoresi 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, in 1936-37, Alfa Romeo scored several victories over the Auto Union Type C and Mercedes-Benz W25K. In fact, in 1936, the Alfa Romeo 8C-35 and 12C-36 (both built on the Tipo C platform) may well have been a better car than that late variant of the W25. In 1938, Rene Dreyfus driving a Delahaye 145 V12 beat the Mercedes team with the W154 at the Pau Grand Prix, really pissing off Hitler in the process (a French car, and a driver with Jewish heritage, beating his precious German entry). In 1938-39, the Alfa Romeo 312 and 316, as well as the Maserati 8CTF, were fast, but tended to hit reliability issues. Now, the Maserati did manage to win the 1939 and '40 Indianapolis 500 races with Wilbur Shaw at the wheel. On the flip side, a catastrophic day for Mercedes, a lackluster showing for Stuck, and whatever other factors, led to Talbot scoring a podium in the 1939 French GP at Reims. Of course, I wish there were proper 1936-37 and 1938-39 car sets for any of the sims. One car in particular though that I wish there was a mod for is the actual Alfa Romeo 12C-37, which was late in the game and suffered teething problems, only appearing at the 1937 Coppa Acerbo (Pescara) and Italian GP (Livorno), but if there was one non-German car that was closest to matching the Germans in performance potential, that would probably be it. The 12C-37 had a new chassis and bodywork, which were carried over for the Tipo 312 and 316, and the V12 was enlarged from the 1936 car (up to 4.5 liters from 4.1), giving 430 hp, a notable increase from the 360-370 of the 12C-36. And yeah, if the German streamliners could be included in a car set. And in the wake of the 1938 Pau GP, namely the issues with the Alfa Romeo 308, Tazio Nuvolari cut himself loose from Alfa Corse and subsequently joined Auto Union. As for other tracks to try these cars on, Deutschlandring is probably about the best period option. I know there's a slightly crude version for rFactor, but I don't know that any of the newer sims have a mod for the 1926-51 version of Reims. Naturally, the Nordschleife is always a possibility, and there's a good Nurburgring '67 mod that's more faithful to the narrowness, lumps/bumps/jumps, and meanders that the circuit used to have. In addition, I should think that Fonteny, Feldbergring, and Battenbergring (when it comes out), would work pretty well with these cars also. Honestly, while the mod is done very well, and the track is period, Donington is a bit tight for the big German and Italian cars of the 1930s. Maybe include French in there too if you're talking about the Bugatti Type 54 or Type 59/50(B). If the track (Roosevelt Field) were available for AC, I'd suggest looking at the Vanderbilt Cup races from 1936 and '37, in which the Europeans had a heavy presence. Nuvolari won in 1936 with the Alfa Romeo 12C-36, while Rosemeyer won in '37 with the Auto Union Type C. And back to Donington to finish, as Nuvolari won that race in '38 with the Auto Union Type D.
@R4M_Tommy
@R4M_Tommy 3 жыл бұрын
The germans tried to win by brute force with their 500 hp engines, but the Alfas were much better cars overall.
@Villoresi
@Villoresi 3 жыл бұрын
Well, pretty much everybody was trying to make bigger, more powerful engines at the time. So it wasn't just the Germans in pursuit of power, but the Germans certainly had the most funding. Even the brute-force method should have its limits. For one, Farina could only manage 5th at Monaco in 1937, 3 laps behind the leading pair of Mercedes. Farina/Nuvolari merely snagged 7th at that year's Italian GP, which wasn't at Monza, but the street circuit in Livorno. You also have to consider the drivers you're comparing, as if it's one team's A squad versus another's B troupe, that makes a difference. I do think the Alfa Romeo Tipo C variants (8C-35 and 12C-36) may have been the best cars of 1936 in some ways. However, they really didn't pick up the pace, at least not with any consistency, for 1937, while Auto Union, though still using the Type C, improved its lap times significantly. Now, come 1938, I'm not sure Alfa Romeo even had the best Italian GP car, with the arrival of the Maserati 8CTF. Heck, on outright pace, Trossi actually got Fastest Lap during the Tripoli GP, of all events. And the German cars weren't so ungainly under the new, 3.0-liter forced induction or 4.5-liter atmospheric rules.
@jcgabriel1569
@jcgabriel1569 3 жыл бұрын
A 1950 version of Reims Gueux just came out for rFactor. There's a video of it here in KZbin.
@jcgabriel1569
@jcgabriel1569 3 жыл бұрын
And as for the Afla Romeo Tipo C variants, I think it's pretty level with the 1936 W25K Mercedes. The Mercedes suffered from understeer and twitchy handling in general, thanks to a big error by Mercedes to chop off the wheelbase just to make an overweight engine get into the weight limit. The Alfa, also had challenging handling. Yeah, the fully independent suspension gave it better roadholding, but the swing rear axle made things hairy under braking and cornering. The current owners who race the existing 8C-35s comment that the car's understeer and oversteer depends on your right foot's location.
@jcgabriel1569
@jcgabriel1569 3 жыл бұрын
And for the 1938-39 cars, Alfa Romeo probably suffered at the time from developing too many cars at the same time to make each one competitive. They reused old Tipo C frames to make the 308, which is also armed with 3 litre versions of the 2.9 litres used in the old P3s, then reused the 12C-37s frames and modified versions of the V12 engine to make the 312, and also developed a V16 engine version to put to the 312s to make the 316. So they're spending precious money developing three different GP cars, plus their Voiturette contender the famous 158 "Alfetta". Maserati's situation is somewhat better. They spent their time honing their Voiturettes, and used what they learned from them to make their 3 litre GP machine, the 8CTF, which is basically the big brother of the 4CL Voiturette. And while they had much less money to make the car reliable, the car's performance started to show, being able to chase down the Mercedes W154s and Auto Union Type Ds despite having much less power, even on fast tracks such as Mellaha. At least they finally got something out of their GP project, though, when Wilbur Shaw won the Indy 500 twice using an 8CTF bought from Maserati.
@StreetLugeNetwork
@StreetLugeNetwork 3 жыл бұрын
i would love to host a fictional 1930s European oval championship with the tracks that existed at the time 1. Brooklands (Great Britain) 2. Linas-Montlhery (France) 3. Sitges-Terramar (Spain) 4. AVUS (Germany) 5. Monza (Italy) Would be so much fun!!
@dullro8721
@dullro8721 2 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is the Auto Union was a fusion of 4 different brands, thats why they have the 4 rings. If you now look closly on the left side of the steering wheel, there is a small patch that says Horch on it. Horch was the brand that mostly developed the Auto Union Gran Prix Cars. Horch in German can be a slang in some regions for the phrase "höre hin" what basically means "listen to it or hear it". The latin word for hearing is AUDI so yeah i think thats some great background info....
@Yikerr
@Yikerr 3 жыл бұрын
The music, the car sounds, just the whole vibe is on point. Absolutely brilliant
@poplaurentiu4148
@poplaurentiu4148 3 жыл бұрын
Damn.. imagine this remastered with all cars Maserati, Alfa, Bentley Bugatti or final edition like Mafia 1 & 2 -- > epic..
@freejrs
@freejrs 3 жыл бұрын
Dude I recommend a book called The Grand Prix Saboteurs by Joe Saward. About grand prix drivers who became British secret agents during the war. Interesting read!
@torp95
@torp95 3 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for the GPL 1937 mod. I got the attention back on SRMZ
@kristijanpavlovic
@kristijanpavlovic 3 жыл бұрын
Are they making that? How do you know? That would be awesome
@LowEndPCGamer100
@LowEndPCGamer100 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a gt car mod for gpl as well
@torp95
@torp95 3 жыл бұрын
@@kristijanpavlovic kzbin.info/www/bejne/jIqTgHWmj9Bojbs
@torp95
@torp95 3 жыл бұрын
@@LowEndPCGamer100 I vaguely remember there was plans for some sort of GT Mod like 1964 or 65 somewhere in SRMZ
@razvanmazilu6284
@razvanmazilu6284 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly when the Auto Unions and Mercedes cars started showing up at GPs it was a bit like taking an F1 car to an F2 race today. Everything else was so much slower compared to them. I can't even begin to imagine how it would be to race something with this much power, yet with brakes and chassis that, while advanced for the time, where nowhere near enough for cars of such raw speed.
@Bambeakz
@Bambeakz 3 жыл бұрын
Isn’t that what Merc is doing the last years? 😅 I am just amazed how many opportunities you had back then to kill yourself in a race. You needed really big ⚽️ 🏀 back then.
@TotoDG
@TotoDG 3 жыл бұрын
4:23. You didn't wanna say "Dick Seaman", did you?
@GPLaps
@GPLaps 3 жыл бұрын
He did go by Richard..... poor boy
@CJMcMullet
@CJMcMullet 3 жыл бұрын
There's a video on KZbin with these cars in the rain where the commentator says "Dick Seaman blinds everyone with his spray." I couldn't help but lmao 😂
@tualatindave3797
@tualatindave3797 3 жыл бұрын
I swear I am such a doof. I watched Dick Trickle race NASCAR for years and thought nothing of his name.
@Skreezilla
@Skreezilla 3 жыл бұрын
Dick Trickle and Dick Seaman both unfortunate names in motorsport :p
@IndianaJoe3
@IndianaJoe3 3 жыл бұрын
@@Skreezilla Jack Goff is carrying on the tradition.
@TheJamesEarly
@TheJamesEarly 3 жыл бұрын
Love this track, 10 miles away from my house! Donington used to have a great museum collection of Grand Prix cars from throughout the history of Formula 1, sadly it was closed a couple years back :(
@henriquesilveira9261
@henriquesilveira9261 3 жыл бұрын
Years ago i say a lot of your races of GPL , i am happy to see that you are back now, and great race!
@declanrex9435
@declanrex9435 3 жыл бұрын
So glad I'm here for your channel's renaissance.
@Tom-zc9gs
@Tom-zc9gs 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing stuff, crazy to think these cars were basically carts with airplane engines and bicycle tyres. An incredible story from those times is the one of the 1935 German Grand Prix: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1935_German_Grand_Prix Tazio Nuvolari won with an old Alfa Romeo Tipo B against far more performant German cars at the Nuerburgring... it was a time when drivers could sometimes make a crazy difference in those machines.
@kuscitube4903
@kuscitube4903 3 жыл бұрын
Nuvolari for us from Italy is a legend, there are plenty of stories about him and how crazy and heroic he was.
@BD12
@BD12 3 жыл бұрын
the only damn racing channel I can watch, this is still the best one going. Brilliant
@nathanhobson1142
@nathanhobson1142 3 жыл бұрын
Oooh Donny 1937, not too far from my gaff in South Yorkshire. 😁 Nice one GPLaps!!
@BDCMatt
@BDCMatt 3 жыл бұрын
doing 10 laps of the nurburgring in these things in forza was hell. and forzas not close to a sim. cant imagine what its like in AC.
@maitreyoda7404
@maitreyoda7404 3 жыл бұрын
Well any person who knows how to race with the wheel/clutch/shifter combo should be able to drive these, I mean you would want to practice old muscle cars etc first maybe but other than that it’s just hard focusing .
@mikemorgan8895
@mikemorgan8895 3 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid my dad had a slot car set and it came with a huge picture on the box of one of those Mercedes coming off the ground at the Nurmbergring.
@rik4010
@rik4010 3 жыл бұрын
That's probably "flugplatz" corner...👍
@themuaddib
@themuaddib 3 жыл бұрын
You need to do the 1935 German Grand Prix on the Nürburgring. Race alongside Tazio Nuvolari against the best the Germans could offer.
@TOFKAS01
@TOFKAS01 3 жыл бұрын
7:50 Well, Gand Prix of Germany 1935: Winner Tazio Nuvolari with Alfa Romeo, Hitler was not amused and they didnt even had the music for the italian anthem....But yes, it was just an episode.
@RalonsoF1
@RalonsoF1 3 жыл бұрын
Not only, but especially the engine sound is so atmospherical! It's almost like being set back to this ara by real! Awesome, GPLaps!
@vasukhani5984
@vasukhani5984 3 жыл бұрын
I love how you give credit to the content makers, doesn't happen enough.
@sanny8716
@sanny8716 3 жыл бұрын
Love the pre-war stuff! My god, these cars look like they're really hard to drive. Can't imagine how much guts you need to race them in real life
@matttondr9282
@matttondr9282 Жыл бұрын
They’re not hard to drive, they are extremely hard to drive fast. Everyone could agree to stay at a reasonable, safe pace, but this is a race.. The moment one driver starts pushing over the safe limit, everyone else has to.
@sanny8716
@sanny8716 Жыл бұрын
@@matttondr9282 That's a pointless distinction. You can say that literally about any car
@JulieMidsTV
@JulieMidsTV 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff. Imagine driving one of those things round the old Nurburgring... Care to give it a go? ;)
@bobmcl2406
@bobmcl2406 3 жыл бұрын
Man, I just LOVE your content! I am a vintage racing fan (in fact, I am fairly vintage myself!) and you provide not only high quality videos, but really engaging commentary. Thank you!
@stevezeoke
@stevezeoke 3 жыл бұрын
Probably like seeing Hannibal's elephants for the first time by those that only heard stories. Intimidating and jaw-dropping.
@patreseo7965
@patreseo7965 3 жыл бұрын
Loving your videos mate! IMO the best sim racing content on KZbin. Would you mind uploading the skins you've created for the Auto Union and Mercedes for us?
@peterjones6897
@peterjones6897 3 жыл бұрын
The house is actually a farm and the track goes through the farm yard, hence the building on both sides of the track. The germans thought it very uncivilised!
@kraigvanrooyen7839
@kraigvanrooyen7839 3 жыл бұрын
Your commentary is so good in all your videos. You also have such a good knowledge of all the races you do, naming drivers as you pass them, naming corners, explaining how the car is behaving... its really entertaining! Let's be clear about something, watching people drive in a sim is 99% boring, you just watching some dude do laps... but your videos are next level. I could watch you lap random cars around random circuits for hours. Basically, well done on a quality channel, and thank you!
@nateh9507
@nateh9507 3 жыл бұрын
Just discovered your channel! Love it, can’t wait to see your growth
@zetetick395
@zetetick395 3 жыл бұрын
You GOTTA love the PC modding scene! A wonderful piece of early / 1990s internet culture that has amazingly managed to survive into modern times (with its extremely powerful and all pervasive online profit-motive) by sheer hobbyist passion alone! Just for the LOVE of it! Bravo all you fabtastico game modders! 💖 💖 💖
@felixseven8958
@felixseven8958 3 жыл бұрын
A rather fitting choice of music lol most excellent! As well as the track!
@ViN-kr3ri
@ViN-kr3ri 3 жыл бұрын
Would have loved to have seen Rosemeyer race. Apparently he was the Gilles of his day. I read that he was the only driver to come close to getting the most out of the Auto Union. A thousand BHP going through skinny tyres, very poor braking and a heavy, awful handling car must have been unimaginably frightening. There's an excellent 1984 documentary called Supercharged made by our state broadcaster, the BBC as part of their Horizon series, about this period. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hHSzkHqAba91hac
@lordhaussig
@lordhaussig 3 жыл бұрын
If you're interested in the story of those cars and Auto Union as a whole, I really recommend the August Horch Museum in Zwickau, if you ever find yourself in eastern Germany. It tells the story of the Horch cars, Horch leaving and founding Audi, forming Auto Union (and the Piech family working there before moving to Porsche), the racing, Audi taking over the Auto Union logo after the war and the rest of Auto Union being deleted due to the Soviet occupation and producing the Trabant (lots of those on display as well). Also lots of other cars from DKW and Wanderer which formed the other two rings of Auto Union. Highlight are the replicas of a Typ C and Typ D race car. There's just so much weird and interesting history behind the whole Auto Union thing.
@davidscott4305
@davidscott4305 3 жыл бұрын
Your enthusiasm and knowledge of motor racing is amazing... Love it.
@miloshdavidovich8958
@miloshdavidovich8958 Жыл бұрын
Can anyone convert this version of Donington 1937 to rFactor, please? There's another one but it's nowhere near accurate.
@Dichuz91
@Dichuz91 3 жыл бұрын
watched another video of yours the other racing the pre- wars cars at fonteny, and liked your idea of doing pre war at donington, so i ended up racing 1930 benz SSk's there, and it was a great time.
@oldschoolracinggames5729
@oldschoolracinggames5729 3 жыл бұрын
try Silver Arrows mod 1937 for rFactor, i’m sure despite the age the physics there is better than in arcade Assetto Corsa.
@DSCC007
@DSCC007 3 жыл бұрын
I am a enthusiastic collector of Donington 1937/38and am very impressed with this post. If you want to learn more about Donington, an excellent book is PIONEERS by John Bailey. Would highly recommend it. The real race was crazy in that the Silver arrows were hitting 200 mph down the back straight and actually lapped the ENTIRE field 7 times. Really excellent races. Keep up the great work on these videos.
@vasily2022
@vasily2022 2 жыл бұрын
It's almost as if safety was absolutely of no concern back then. The tracks seemed like death traps.
@jadebullet3884
@jadebullet3884 3 жыл бұрын
Where can I find the video you talk about in the beginning where someone gives the history of the race?
@Ashfielder
@Ashfielder 3 жыл бұрын
4:24 Richard Seaman? Dick Seaman? Those old school racers were a different breed.
@willfitzgeraldd
@willfitzgeraldd 3 жыл бұрын
u deserve more than 10k subs, love ur vids
@fredscratchet1355
@fredscratchet1355 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing track, definitely my next download.
@rik4010
@rik4010 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, thank you, thank you for taking me back to the thirty's... Wonderful cars and also scarey cars. You may take me too more of the same race's every time...🤗🍀
@anthonyhunt701
@anthonyhunt701 2 жыл бұрын
Man I LOVE this!! Thank you GPLaps!
@davidmays229
@davidmays229 3 жыл бұрын
i like the cars and the entire atmosphere of that era.
@garybloxsom7538
@garybloxsom7538 3 жыл бұрын
this track is so much fun,i use it all the time.
@flashpeter625
@flashpeter625 3 жыл бұрын
The A-U Type C was actually difficult to handle compared to the rather conservative Mercedes W125. The suspension, tires and chassis could not deal with the awkward weight distribution, and drivers had much less experience driving mid-engined cars. The oversteer was snappy, extremely hard to control. It took Rosemeyer, a *flat track motorcycle* rider, to perfect the car. Another thing, the Type C had about 100hp less peak power than the W125, but it was not slower in the straight line. Thanks to the mid-rear layout, Type C had much better traction and less drag. Also had a wider power band, and a 5-speed gearbox (only 4-speed in W125). These two very different cars had an interesting balance, which made for great races in 1937. I really hope the streamliners are modded into a simulator at some point, they are my favourite racing vehicles of all time. I've only seen a very unrealistic representation in Gran Turismo. Imagine the slipstream battles on Avus, I would totally buy a sim rig and install a simulator after 5 years of not playing if the streamliners came out in good quality.
@Chris-ce7ve
@Chris-ce7ve 3 жыл бұрын
Not to forget the high torque of 850 Nm.
@DavidLand91
@DavidLand91 3 жыл бұрын
I gotta try this. Looks amazing!
@edwardburek1717
@edwardburek1717 3 жыл бұрын
Highly recommended. You will be entertained. Scared shitless - but entertained.
@TheTotallyRealXiJinping
@TheTotallyRealXiJinping 3 жыл бұрын
How do you not have more subs/views? Gonna need to give my people access to this content
@ThomasD1962
@ThomasD1962 3 жыл бұрын
I race these cars regularly in rFactor1 and they are a blast. I missed the Alfa Romeo's though. I guess they aren't converted (yet)?
@GPLaps
@GPLaps 3 жыл бұрын
No alfas in donington in 1937 sadly!
@jamesbehra2690
@jamesbehra2690 3 жыл бұрын
Jake its always a pleasure. Pristine content. 🍾
@ryklatortuga4146
@ryklatortuga4146 3 жыл бұрын
V16 - excellent choice!
@VonBlade
@VonBlade 3 жыл бұрын
So little of that is recognisable as Donington. Fantastic video and effort.
@johnedwards230
@johnedwards230 Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if the trees are accurate, bit through the bridge is still at the left of the current old hairpin.
@christiaanspan7525
@christiaanspan7525 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing cars and track
@bbrodriguez420
@bbrodriguez420 3 жыл бұрын
Wonder if anyone will ever make/ has made a Circuito Montenero mod, would love to see that track. Not the longest ever Italian track, Pescara was longer but the layout wasn't as interesting. Montenero is what i consider the Italian Nordschleife with the layout used from 1922-35. Looking at the road map of the layout it looks like it'd be a blast to drive.
@Pozer714
@Pozer714 3 жыл бұрын
That car is cool!
@velocitaaa
@velocitaaa 3 жыл бұрын
Love the new intro and channel art!
@tualatindave3797
@tualatindave3797 3 жыл бұрын
You are an asset to the racing sim world. Keep it up!
@robp1966
@robp1966 4 ай бұрын
Great video! I am trying to recreate this race myself in AC, but only have 1 skin for the Auto Union - #5, Rosemeyer. I have been scouring the internet for the rest - where did you find them?? Thanks!
@USERNAMEfieldempty
@USERNAMEfieldempty 3 жыл бұрын
@4.20... GPL mentions Richard Seamen, a very successful British racing driver. Everybody called him Dick Seamen. No, really, they did.
@SJSpode114
@SJSpode114 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting to see the current sections of the track; Hollywood, down the Craners, under Starkeys Bridge and back round through the houses at current Coppice Corner and down the straight past the exhibition centre. With the new main Donington pedestrian entrance at Hollywood you can now see the original extended Melbourne hairpin section on the left as you drive round to the car park/ entrance.
@patrickgriffitt6551
@patrickgriffitt6551 3 ай бұрын
Hoping to see MB W163 some time. Also move up after the war to Vanwahls. sic.
@worldhello1234
@worldhello1234 3 жыл бұрын
@14:17 Gingers for the most part are fiery, so that reference makes no sense. @16:26 At least the Type C has a sexy 4.4l V16 and produces 520 horses. :) @17:30 The best thing is, every day behind the wheel was guess your speed day. If you got it wrong, you crash. :D @18:30 Exactly, always the pedal to the metal, just like gingers do. :D @20:46 I wish you would give the Formula 1 cars of the 60ies a try and try to master the BRM P83 with the gorgeous H16 engine. Italian reliability and British craftsmanship. ^^ AFAIK, there was an rFactor version. Even the poor reliability was taken into account. I had a flame grilled engine after half the Nürburgring full course (Nordschleife, Betonschleife, Südschleife). :)
@johnblenkin6869
@johnblenkin6869 7 ай бұрын
Amazing recreation of the track and can still see the similarities to todays track, like old hairpin to starkies bridge and the Dunlop straight to the Melbourne loop. Great content as always bud 👍🏁🏁
@anthonylawrence9823
@anthonylawrence9823 11 ай бұрын
Bought Assetto Corsa for PS4, Cars are totally undrivable. Any advice on where to find setup info?
@las10plagas
@las10plagas 10 ай бұрын
I think that some of the racers retire, is good. what race have you ever seen, that goes without an incident? many racing games are pretty boring, when everybody drives absolutely perfect. hell, most people only watch races for the crashes =P
@Kualinar
@Kualinar Жыл бұрын
That Auto Union type C was special. It had a V16 engine with roller bearings everywhere. The crank shaft was bolted together in order to install all of those bearings.
@njm5252
@njm5252 3 жыл бұрын
For those interested in this era of racing but unaware of the history there is fiim made by Shell: The History of Motor Racing Volume 4 'The Titans' (www.dailymotion.com/video/xj3rj7) which shows these cars racing in period.
@christoforospaphitis4090
@christoforospaphitis4090 3 жыл бұрын
Hmmm with these kind of cars that have so little grip one driving technique one can use to maximum efficiency IMHO is Senna's throttle control. It will act as a quasi traction control. Try it out and let me know. You should be able to carry more speed on the exit and slide around less
@devinhorner2358
@devinhorner2358 3 жыл бұрын
I love learning GP history from this channel, as I love racing but I don't know as much about the historical details (I'm an aviation history guy, usually)
@magzire
@magzire 3 жыл бұрын
damn those gfx
@johnbower7452
@johnbower7452 3 жыл бұрын
FYI the house was probably there before it was a circuit; due to it having been an airfield before that; the circuit came later. And those cars from what footage I've ever seen didn't take modern racing lines; even in the later races post war they seem to slide more like rally cars just not quite so pronounced.
@stevethurow1559
@stevethurow1559 3 жыл бұрын
It would be great if you would provide links to videos you mention, especially when you say we should watch them.
@LoukoporJogos
@LoukoporJogos 3 жыл бұрын
The germans tried to race in Britain againin 1940... Didn't quite work out
@OrionKarlDaleyIst
@OrionKarlDaleyIst 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats on this - I love AC and also the Vintage cars - ( much of whom need to be tuned before use )
@Chris-ce7ve
@Chris-ce7ve 3 жыл бұрын
Nice Video. It looks really hard to control a car with 850 Nm torque.
@Markos681
@Markos681 3 жыл бұрын
Put a set of 80s Slicks in the Auto Union !!! And the brakes ...
@thegator589
@thegator589 3 жыл бұрын
Why do these cars just refuse to go straight or put down power at all? It’s almost like the horsepower is wasted cuz the thing is a wagon
@bunherr8974
@bunherr8974 8 ай бұрын
Recently came back to Sim racing, i like your content, keep it up!
@Alroofador
@Alroofador 3 жыл бұрын
pls help and help sending links for all featured. Many thnx n happy xmas
@41BOT
@41BOT 3 жыл бұрын
That typeC is awesome ! Just a note, there is other Mercedes W125 mod.
@slapdoggo4834
@slapdoggo4834 3 жыл бұрын
Please do some more f1 cars without down force game play
@Alroofador
@Alroofador 3 жыл бұрын
Help with installing these mods wud be v helpful too.
@patrickgriffitt6551
@patrickgriffitt6551 3 ай бұрын
Remind people those are mechanical tachs.
@bigbaderek1978
@bigbaderek1978 3 жыл бұрын
WHy do you play GPL over AC? I have never okayed gpl
@peterweer2867
@peterweer2867 3 жыл бұрын
🔥🔥
@humblegeorge
@humblegeorge Жыл бұрын
Another master piece ! Outstanding video and driving.
@joelangley7974
@joelangley7974 3 жыл бұрын
What mod is it to get the chalk board come up when you go past the pit wall?
@Gamezoneadi
@Gamezoneadi Жыл бұрын
Did the cars really behave like this back then?
@Alroofador
@Alroofador 3 жыл бұрын
please keep going. I went to see rock bands at Donnington!
@Gracievision
@Gracievision 3 жыл бұрын
I've never understood why they didn't work out that if they made the wheels and tyres wider they might get let wheelspin.
@GPLaps
@GPLaps 3 жыл бұрын
The technology literally didn't exist to make a tire much wider. Something also I didn't talk about in the video is that pitstops for tire replacement was standard with the German cars. We often think of the 1960s and 'tires lasting multiple races' but that was not the case in the 1930s.
@Gracievision
@Gracievision 3 жыл бұрын
@@GPLaps ​Ah yes, but how come these inventive and resourceful people didn't invent/develop the technology to make the tyre wider? Look at the acceleration of technology in the aviation industry over the next eight years. Although in that case the competition was, shall we say, a little more intense that on Grand Prix motor racing,
@Vollhirni
@Vollhirni 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gracievision rubber and subconstruction of the tires were indeed far behind the engine department . They used twin rear tires on the Autounion in certain races to compensate. Search for Stuck Autounion and you should find nice pictures of Hans Stuck, der „Berg König“ / King of Hillclimbs on this monster. His son „Striezel“ Stuck even drove his dads car up a prominent Hill Race Track, there is awesome Material on YT around
@Chris-ce7ve
@Chris-ce7ve 3 жыл бұрын
Driving careful with consideration of the tyres was the most important thing to win in a race.
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 2 жыл бұрын
Have you tried these cars at pre-war Spa?
@grahamhobson4091
@grahamhobson4091 3 жыл бұрын
Brake fade? The GPL 1955 mod addresses brake fade in the best way it can. Looks like you can use the brakes as much as you like here. I presume these early cars would have had problems with overheating brakes.
@GPLaps
@GPLaps 3 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed. I wish AC had brake fade!
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