When You Have 99 Adaptability | Dark Souls II

Most of these attacks if not all would more or less be impossible to dodge without maximum agility, so that is what is being displayed here. You know, in case you are wondering why these never worked for you.
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[@appleyanimator6541]

"So you're telling me if I get 99 ADP I can dodge bullets?" "No, I'm saying you won't have to"

[@vitrais1797]

Dark Souls is system, Bearer of the Curse... and that system is your enemy.

[@guymor910]

Actually you will.

[@nicoriver9070]

Nice matrix reference

[@jeremyrobel9072]

"Adaptability is pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural." "Is it possible to learn this power?"

[@memereaper2764]

@@jeremyrobel9072 not from Miyazaki

[@ChocolateMilkmanTrue]

There's no longer invincibility frames you're just invincible.

[@mavairick]

Yep it's more like "vincible" frames now

[@Hiryjin]

title screen pops

[@pedro_h7790]

@@Hiryjin INVENCIBLE

[@rswindol]

Dodging these types of attacks was pretty much a normal part of Demon's Souls and Dark Souls as long as you could master the timing.

[@_doop8257]

@@rswindol what

[@ManoredRed]

I like how the medusa woman throws her head at you, then suddenly remembers that its an important body part and scrambles to recover it.

[@abogmus8904]

the "i don't play souls but i like the vids" enjoyer

[@ApexWolfPR]

@@abogmus8904 a chad among chads

[@SSP2056]

@@ApexWolfPR AmOnG???? sUs!!!😳😳😳

[@ApexWolfPR]

@@SSP2056 thank you, my brain began to commit sepukku

[@LixxLixx]

Mytha, The Baneful Queen. not medusa

[@eliteclasswarrior94]

"WHY WON'T YOU DIE?!" "Nanoadaptability, son."

[@davidcardozo290]

"It phases in response to physical trauma."

[@apal1329]

@@davidcardozo290 also dark, magic, lightning and fire.

[@syeo501]

Nice Metal Gear reference

[@coconutgun1590]

All we're saying is, give adaptability a chance!

[@oscarfromsharktale3868]

@@davidcardozo290 “You can’t roll catch me Jack!”

[@devilvocano420]

I leveled adp and the world seemed brighter and I got a raise at my job

[@guymor910]

You successfully dodged that mass layoff

[@martk647]

ADP save lives.

[@rswindol]

Patient: I'm really depressed and tired all the time. Doctor: Have you tried levelling ADP?

[@sasaki999pro]

I leveled ADP now all the girls and boys are flirting with me and my parents are no longer getting divorced

[@bingusmingus2937]

The moment I leveled ADP my ex died and I passed all my classes

[@AdamArchangel]

I never realised just how many bosses did the "power up and then explode around them" move.

[@DrunkedOwly]

If you use a short weapon, it's the "fuck I have to run" attack, at least my experience with the fume knight

[@GermoDante]

It's not as common as "big dude with sword" but it happens a lot, yes.

[@fulltimeslackerii8229]

That’s dark souls 2 for you

[@ivanlagrana878]

Dark souls 2 is full of annoying area damage.

[@cmwhite2421]

And it's the same sound effect too...

[@LeeroyJanky]

Bosses are wondering why it feels like they're playing Morrowind all over again

[@Konyad]

Because this game looks like Morrowind

[@BigPanda096]

@@Konyad That made me laugh but honestly this game on PC looks pretty nice ngl.

[@Vajrapani108]

@@BigPanda096 the game looks brilliant on PC. And it runs brilliantly too

[@Konyad]

@@BigPanda096 you mean morrowind?

[@kevgmei]

@@Konyad You talking about the Shaded Woods?

[@zipperman1063]

I think it would have been fun if the rolling animation just turns into teleport animation like Vergil’s when you reach adaptability 99

[@abrahamrangel2326]

Sinpleton's ring is the closest thing u have

[@felixortiz257]

That effect would have to tie into a theoretical motivation stat

[@thatguy5767]

@@felixortiz257 “show me your motivation.”

[@sebastianalancliffordthomp4114]

This is also part of why Caster builds were so good in DS2, Atunement gives AGL, the stat that causes this, at 1/3 the rate of Adaptability

[@lumonetic1124]

why attunement???

[@lumonetic1124]

@Recjawjind the Sunbro \[T]/ I see

[@Archimedes5000_Brand_Account]

Because Agility also increases casting speed, so it makes sense ATT would increase that

[@sebastianalancliffordthomp4114]

@@Archimedes5000_Brand_Account Not in DS2, cast speed is a unique stat derived from Att, Int and Fth, along with certain gear peices

[@kenjen9861]

Lumonetic, ive come, finally, to answer your question Agility increases certain animation speed. The animations that the character goes through before casting a spell (like kneeling in prayer for sone miracles) is probably affect by agility, so thats maybe why attunement affects agility

[@thegamewin100]

Yea as soon as you start upgrading adt this game isn’t as hard suddenly

[@Lacunae]

None of DS ganes is realy hard

[@JohnDoe-pu5gk]

It ain't hard at all it's just clunky and has the worst hitboxes out of any game ever made.

[@guymor910]

@@Lacunae idk I died a lot

[@gattssiova6065]

@@guymor910 opinions...

[@guymor910]

@@gattssiova6065 no it's true, I did

[@Genasidal]

ADP goes from "making the game's animations actually function the same as they appear" - "easy mode slider"

[@noop9k]

For a player of other souls games it is more like going from “comically slow and getting damaged in the middle of fastroll” to “normal”. And then to “just like with ninja ring” but without 25% weight limit, which feels like cheating. Especially considering that mobs of early enemies rush you when you are trying to drink your estus veeeeeeeery slowly. And they are able to attack through each other’s body almost simultaneously. I almost stopped playing at that point.

[@Genasidal]

@@noop9k I feel ADP is almost mandatory up to a point for most players (which is why I hate it as a concept) but to add fuel onto that bad design, if you level it too much, the game becomes laughably easy, which is worse considering DS2 is already not that difficult aside from a few choice areas (usually optional for DLC). And the bosses which weren't the best anyway overall become just boring. I'll still always find it funny that they removed an ultimately useless stat from DS1 and replaced it with one so useful that it breaks the game

[@boyman7823]

@@Genasidal well vigor is mandatory too, why wouldnt ADP be? If you want an agile character that dodges stuff you make them an agile character by investing points into it. Thats how RPGs work?

[@jamescindric5056]

@@boyman7823 The more that you have that is mandatory the less choices the player actually makes. What you have made is actually an argument to tie health to level by dispersing hp to other stats.

[@laughingseal2282]

@@jamescindric5056 It's almost like nimble, agile characters are forced by design to have low hp in all games. OH BOY, WAIT A MINUTE?! Yep, ninjas, assassins, all of those guys can't tank.

[@reanterhog5701]

for those curious, 20 ADP (96 AGL) is about enough to get DS1-like rolls, and around 32 ADP (105 AGL) is enough to get DS3-like rolls. If you're struggling a lot 24-25 ADP (99 AGL) is the best bang for your buck.

[@DefinitelyNotAMachineCultist]

25 ADP is good bang for buck especially when you factor in attunement agility bonuses. Vitality might be the only stat in DS2 where diminishing returns isn't really a thing since it synergized really well with heavy armor and/or Iron Flesh for stupid amounts of mobility and tanking at the same time.

[@ash_1419]

110 AGL (45 ADP) is the best

[@Big_Ol_Roach]

I’ve been running 15 and it feels the same as Ds1 tbh

[@kirenkotobuki1376]

@@ash_1419 38 is enough (with atn fth int agl llbe 110)

[@vanguard1614]

The forbidden dodge build

[@A.C_B.]

And I played through the entire game thinking that adaptability was the new resistance...

[@flamesofchaos13]

Yep me too. Though I didn't cry about it and only had trouble with two bosses in the dlcs. Most of the bosses I even one shoted.

[@kael4772]

same here

[@afjer]

@Jxxkkkk That's true, but if you're not going for a magic build then ADP levels agility three times faster than ATN.

[@anthonyfaiell3263]

"Adaptability is a useless stat they said." "Don't waste points they said." . This guy dodged everyone's opinion AND the bosses attacks.

[@deadinside9565]

Is this the "things no one ever actually said" thread?

[@Shane24597]

You sure you're not thinking of resistance in DS1? I don't think I've ever met anyone who said ADP was useless. If anything, people complain it's a required purchase in the start of the game.

[@anthonyfaiell3263]

@@Shane24597 Resistance in DS1 was definitely useless lol that is true. And I have definitely met people, as well as read quite a few threads saying it is worthless. I have beaten the game 5 times total with 3 different characters (I realize that's not a whole lot, but more than some). And I have never once leveled adaptability. . It just forced me to learn what abilities were harder to dodge, and which ones were harder to block. And seeing as the game can be beaten without ever rolling at all, I would not consider ADP to be essential. . It's something I would call a "convenience stat." It doesn't actually make you stronger, it just makes the game a little more convenient. If you don't need that convenience, it is essentially worthless.

[@Shane24597]

@@anthonyfaiell3263 you could say the same thing about HP. Hey, if you don't get hit, why have hp at all? The game is objectively easier with even a minimal investment in ADP though.

[@anthonyfaiell3263]

@@Shane24597 Not really. See there is another option for mitigating damage besides dodging. It's called blocking. HP is different because whether you are blocking or rolling, a failure will always result in damage to HP. My point was only that you can go through the whole game sprinting, or you can go through the whole game blocking. Or you can go through the whole game dodging. All are viable.

[@КостянтинМорозов-н4н]

Bro did you try leveling up adap... oh wait

[@thechosenflutterbox]

I really think a big issue in this game is how much those hitboxes linger. If they didn't linger so much then we wouldn't need so many i-frames to dodge it

[@christophercollins3632]

Hitboxes are mostly just fine. There’s 2 bad ones. Giant jumping club slam. And the Ruin Sentinel shield throw. I talked with someone who broke down code for the cheat engine about this. But your idea doesn’t make sense to me. They give you a way to deal with a problem successfully. Agility. Like you said.

[@rhyswhittington8759]

@@christophercollins3632 are you mental? hitboxes are well documented to be terrible in this game. the worst one you didnt mention is sir alonne. that sword stab is just ludicrous. how can you think locking s behind a skill that doesnt tell you what it actually does would be a good idea? its dreadful and you know it.

[@christophercollins3632]

@@rhyswhittington8759 Didn’t I mention it? I talked with a member of the team that dug through the code to create the cheat engine. And specifically asked about hitboxes. He said they’re fine, with a few glaring exceptions. The giant’s jumping club slam. The Ruin Sentinel’s shield throw. Don’t be so cocksure about your opinion that you assume I’m just being a contrarian. I like IFrames being tied to a stat. For many reasons. You want your free God rolls, before taking one step, just by getting naked? You think everyone should have the exact same? Fine! You’ve got 2 games that do that. God help us all that one of three games does some things differently! Like, not giving everyone the same roll from the very beginning of the game. Which encourages build and gameplay diversity. Doesn’t that sound awful! Or how DS2 is RPG-esque, where you start off with a weaker, less developed character that grows in skill over time? Heaven forbid! Or, how player matchmaking used Soul Memory. If you want your build to have the best roll, you gotta spend souls. That way, no one gets free God rolls, while someone else moves up a Soul Memory tier to get them. Kill me! The game tells you, in the help description, that Agility helps with evasion. What could that possibly mean? How do you “evade”? In a series that is notorious for not explaining shit, this spells it out: you’ll roll better. If you don’t think, “oh shit, I want some of that!”, and don’t increase it, and then get mad because you can’t dodge Sir Alonne, the problem isn’t the hitboxes. It’s you. Besides, you don’t need to level Agility, if you have good timing and spacing. They’re like training wheels, that help when you falter on either end, rolling too soon or late. Give you a little wiggle room, a bigger buffer for player error. Just kidding. You’re right. We need three of the same game. So we can have all the same builds and playstyles in each. Homogeneity. It’s what Miyazaki would’ve wanted.

[@rhyswhittington8759]

​@@christophercollins3632 1- doesnt matter who you talked to, doesnt mean that he is right. just because a dev said that the hitboxes were fine doesnt mean that they are....2- i cant believe that you think tied to a stat is acceptable. the game ABSOLUTELY DOES NOT TELL YOU that s are tied to a skill, dont lie for fucks sake..... "agility helps with avasion" that could mean that you just move faster, that absolutely does not tell you that your s are affected, dont talk shit mate, you know that you are talking shit. that in no way tells the player that that skill affects s.... look, i dont mind the fact you like dark souls 2 but how you can defend the BLATANT faults of it is beyond me.... the hitboxes are ridiculous and the s tied to a skill is shit game design, theres absolutely no way you can defend that (and you have definietly failed to defend that).

[@rhyswhittington8759]

@@christophercollins3632 and i just cant fathom how anyone could possibly defend the sir alonne hitboxes. i seriously question if you have ever played the game. even the biggest fans of the game understand how awful the hitboxes are, the sir alonne sword "grab" is ridiculous to pretty much everyone and you look like such a pleb trying to defend it. its just bad and you know it is.

[@mavairick]

Doctor : You talk of dark souls too much, you need to be more adaptable in your social interaction and handle different topics. me : But i already have 99 adaptability

[@Maki28]

i hate your Avatar style.

[@wellwelp313]

Lol

[@guymor910]

Gotta have 100

[@justarandomskull]

I have 300 agility in dks2 but 0 in real life XD

[@thomashenriquez2586]

You need 1000

[@milgos5269]

When you have 99 adp you dont have i frames, you only have vulnerability frames when not rolling

[@Qonda0T]

ADP is op, forget leveling up anything else

[@boyishdude1234]

Except that if you don't level anything else, your overall DPS and survivability is going to go down the toilet, because all ADP *really* offers you is extra i-frames and a faster Estus consumption speed that you don't really need. "Make your ADP hit 30 or so before you level up anything else" is some of the most foolish advice you could possibly give DS2 players.

[@Qonda0T]

@@boyishdude1234 don't take too serious man, I'm saying that because of the way he's playing on the video I've never gone past 25 ADP myself but it's good experimenting though.

[@rydell6899]

Dont forget Attunement, you get at least an extra frame, maybe a few, from the Agility modified by leveling Attunement

[@slay-r349]

@@boyishdude1234 100 agility already gives you Ds1 ninja roll I-frames and it makes every animation faster, not only rolls and healing

[@gergo7507]

@@boyishdude1234 That's what I did a few months ago, and I had more fun in the game than ever before; the game also became much easier, even though I was using an unupgraded dagger until The Lost Sinner fight.

[@moz6388]

I swear im NOT memeing when i say this.. But Dark Souls 2 becomes a cake walk (Literally) after you upgrade ADP enough. The game is only hard in the beginning. But gets Way easier later and I first try most bosses every single time lol

[@gattssiova6065]

All dark souls games are hard only in the beggining

[@JohnDoe-pu5gk]

It ain't hard to begin with. Tying a stat to how many s u get instead of just already having it is just one of the major flaws in this trash game.

[@gattssiova6065]

@@JohnDoe-pu5gk ok kid

[@DotaSoad]

@@JohnDoe-pu5gk trash game?

[@guymor910]

I played my entire first playthrough without knowing what ADP was

[@TechNinjaSigma]

"So this is the power of Ultra Instinct"

[@amberpierce77]

Me, never once lvling up adpt: “Is it possible to learn this power?” This person: “Not as a casul...”

[@eusoumd]

Dark Souls 2 was my first game in the saga, it obviously became my favorite, I must have about 2,000 hours of gameplay, I'm fan enough of the series to recognize that the mistake of the second game was to make the dodge so initially weak. Whenever I start the new game, I prefer to put 20 points in ADP, after that I think it's valid.

[@OHG_Fawx]

The design philosophy of DS2 was to double down on the difficulty, but they ended up just making several broken features as a result. Should've stuck with Miyazaki's commitment to world authenticity instead

[@eliteclasswarrior94]

@@OHG_Fawx yeah they focused on artificial difficulty too much. Too many bosses are either uninspired or totally random.

[@thehybridtheory7109]

I feel you it was my first in the series too. No wonder I put it down after my first couple of tries lol

[@Piratadoidao]

Nah, Dark Souls II was going to be perfect. It was just too ambitious for the time and on a PS3.

[@warcrimeconnoisseur5238]

@@Piratadoidao Debatable

[@relariis_the_paradox]

Ray *really* wants us to know that he finally got his character to max level

[@js12352]

I ran ds2 without putting a single point in that stat, i didnt know what it was doing.... I suffered for my sins

[@spencergage95]

When people tell you to just level ADP, so you do exactly that.

[@kyleakimura361]

Wait, ruin sentiles can throw the shield?

[@ajbankz45]

Yeah if you're quite far from them it's a 70% thing they'll do

[@kyleakimura361]

@@ajbankz45 brUh

[@DuyHoang-oz2yh]

They even do nado move on the platform

[@xXLunatikxXlul]

Said can shield become stuck in a wall, after being thrown.

[@wallacesousuke1433]

I've played this game so many times I dont recall this move at all xD

[@kevindenis9551]

I like how every boss just stares at the player thinking “wtf???” after witnessing what basically it would be like if adaptability wasn’t in the game. Yeah, imagine having this, and being able to put what you want into the builds you want rather than wasting points into a stat that shouldn’t have been out in the first place.

[@Battleguild]

Here are the I-Frames on a normal roll that you have at the start of the game: DS1: 11 frames DS2: 5 frames (85 AGI +/-) DS3: 13 frames This is before any I-frame boosting stats, rings, or equip load are taken into account. The fact that DS1 has double the frames and DS3 has almost triple, is the biggest reason why DS2 is said to have "bad hitboxes".

[@volcanolord100]

That and the worst hitboxes of the series. I'm sorry, taking i-frames inconsistencies out of the equation, it still has the worst hitboxes of the series.

[@chavaz06]

That's not the reason, the game has terrible hitboxes and hits can connect even when neither yours or the enemy hitbox are touching each other.

[@sukaleas3855]

Wow. Haters still spiting nonsense and don't want to hear anything? What a surprise...

[@SofterSocks]

I absolutely love ds2 but there's some definite jank to it

[@GermoDante]

It has terrible hitboxes, not bad. ADP just adds into the mess.

[@themeow-sician1664]

When your dying to the boss 40 times and learn the moveset perfectly

[@Arvaar]

I do not know if it is good or sad But it happens a lot to me

[@NevinWarrior-es6ds]

Nah man, take pride in your failures, sure you might think failing is bad, but each time you do fail, you gain experience. Personally I've failed atleast 6 times in each fight. Now I pretty much mastered all their movements, sure I failed a hell of a lot but I learned@@Arvaar

[@rayzorduality2396]

At this late date, Ray is just trolling these bosses...Und I love every second of it.... Vunderbar...

[@mauriciohiure2192]

ah yes, the game is finally playable now

[@dumbimpostor7021]

You literally have 0.133 more seconds of invulnerability with max adp comapred to what most players generally have.

[@SquirtIeSquad]

@@dumbimpostor7021 and it makes all the difference

[@dumbimpostor7021]

@@SquirtIeSquad It doesnt, you can dodge all of these attacks with the usual adp. Maybe not najka's soul spears but all of the others can be dodged. I have personally dodged through at least half of them.

[@flamesofchaos13]

@@dumbimpostor7021 I had 4 ADP the entire game I thought it was the new resistance stat. I could dodge things and get heals in. I one shoted most bosses. The dlc ones gave me trouble though. So yeah it's doable...But let's just say now that I know this info I know what to level up in ng+ or ng.

[@mikemiles2241]

lol

[@Bowen_Windcalibur]

Usually 35 ADP gives you near DBZ dodge skills. 99 clearly gives you SOLID Ultra Instinct powers. 😁 Always good seeing your content Damitri.

[@botario3272]

99 adaptability is just ds3 rolling

[@finmat95]

Infact DS3 is the best

[@nehuen7949]

38 ADP in order to have 110 AGL was one of the best investments I made in this game. I cursed the frames of the dodge but when I upgraded that everything was better and now I can dodge almost anything with the right timing.

[@PurpleArrow_o7]

Breakpoint for roll i frames are 105 and 111.

[@GamesDiddley]

Me when it's time to 'have a talk'

[@hawkwood9257]

daaamn

[@chron9725]

I thought adaptability was just a meme stat like resistance so I've beat ds2 without ever leveling it up. No wonder I suffered especially in dlc.

[@MCYonazz]

You've heard of rolling through attacks. Introducing now: Rolling INTO attacks!

[@DracoSafarius]

Man watching this just makes you realize how much DS2 LOVED its bosses having aoe pulse attacks when you got close

[@ManoredRed]

As much as I feel like people shit too much on Dark Souls 2, I must admit that changing the number of invincibility frames with ADP is really unintuitive. Also, the ADP mechanic means that, unlike in 1 and 3, you can't change weight classes at will in 2. In 2 if you haven't invested in ADP you will never be a good dodger. There is less room to experiment in that regard.

[@DefinitelyNotAMachineCultist]

I don't know what the original intent was but the fact that the ADP stat (which determines both dodge frames _AND_ Estus chug speed for some reason IIRC) exists without even a clear in-game description, which means without outside info you need to look at the description for ADP then the one for agility which mentions 'ease of evasion' to infer that it boosts dodge _to some unknown extent_ , makes it seem like the stat exists purely as some weird noob trap, and anyone who knows what it does would want to boost it to 25 minimum pronto outside of a weird 'no ADP levelling' challenge run. Besides that weird choice the build system seemed to give a lot of variety in DS2, plus the respec items meant I experimented a lot more than in DS1. 90% of the reason for the hate, may be down to the fact that DS2, more than any other classic Soulsborne title, seems to encourage (is biased towards?) playing unlocked to prevent camera pains, while using free movement to aim long-reach, wide-AOE weapons to deal with the crowds the game likes to throw at you. That kinda narrows the build variety down in practice, even if it seems larger in theory. That's not the entire problem though, what makes it weird is that DS2, unlike DS1 & 3, has this weird screwed up, rigid 8-axis, sudden acceleration movement by default from what I remember, even in Scholar of the First Sin, to the point where it makes the aforementioned free-aim harder. Before I got into it, there was a Soulstuber that mentioned how he initially hated the game before he tried it offline with the 'Deadzone Fix' movement mod, 25 min ADP, playing unlocked and favoring strike/magic hybrid weapons to deal with the overload of armored knight-type foes. I went that route from the start and enjoyed it way more than I expected. As for the fluff/lore/story content, it had a weird fever-dream vibe to it that I kinda liked. Maybe it was too disconnected from the previous story of DS1 for some people? I feel like a few core things got botched up a bit and it dragged down almost everything else for a lot of people, leading to it being the most shit-on of the DS trilogy. EDIT: Also you can stack multiple Lifegems before getting into close-combat to cheese through a lot of fights so there is that. Not sure which FromSoft title had the most cheese strats though.

[@ManoredRed]

@@DefinitelyNotAMachineCultist I think DS2 may just be my favorite out of the lot. I didn't play right after launch, so its possible that I missed the "shitstorm", so to speak, I heard it was very broken on launch and got fixed a lot later, and maybe that was drove a lot of players away to never come back. By the time I played some things were still quite broken, such as armor, which was using a weird formula where every point of defense meant 0.1% damage reduction. This formula meant that low amounts of armor such as 200, did almost nothing, while high amounts such as 600+ reduced your damage to ridiculous extends. Some specialized builds could reach insane 900+ values where they would be getting less than 10x the base damage, it was broken as hell. I played as a tank, which means I benefited from the broken formula, so maybe the game was less frustrating for me than others =)

[@DefinitelyNotAMachineCultist]

​@@ManoredRed IIRC you could stack armors with certain spells (like the one that blurred your peripheral vision as a negligible downside) and even Iron Flesh assuming a light enough armor or high enough VIT while still maintaining good rolls. I'm almost done with vanilla DS3 (late to the party) and plan to play the Cinders mod for it next. From the looks of it, modded DS3 may be my favorite of the 'classic' Souls games. Sekiro and Bloodborne are kinda their own thing and it doesn't feel like they get rid of my liking for Old-Souls even if I actually like Sek & BB more overall for a bunch of reasons. Old-Souls games did seem to favor greatshields, tanks and stealth an awful lot, not to mention aggroing enemies from a distance. I was weirdly, pleasantly surprised when some DS3 enemies like the Ariandel wolves & forest Corvians have sentries which alert and aggro all nearby enemies if you damage them or get too close without killing them fast.

[@christophercollins3632]

First things first: you can respecc your build with Soul Vessels. Even better. Allows you to become a completely different build. Go from glass cannon mage to beefy bruiser, and back. 1. This is RPG-esque. You start off weak. You don’t immediately start with the best possible roll (get naked before taking first step). Some classes should feel different, like Explorer, with higher Agility. Not exactly like every other class , just by getting naked. 2. PvP uses soul memory. No build should get a god roll for free. Everyone has to pay, a little or a lot, depending on your playstyle. Encourage build and playstyle diversity, when everyone isn’t able to have the best roll without any effort.

[@zzzlikeaboszzz]

So...in ds1 we have 99 adaptability by default, got it

[@JohnDoe-pu5gk]

Pretty much in all the soulsborne games apart from trash ds2.

[@alysoncardoso6684]

@@JohnDoe-pu5gk nope,34 adp has as much frames as the fast roll in dks3,and attunement will also give more frames,tho you may want to leave it at 16-20 if you can dodge and don't want to put too many point into it

[@yourdad5799]

@@alysoncardoso6684 Why does ADP even exist?

[@alysoncardoso6684]

@@yourdad5799 it shouldn't exist

[@rrrrr0_]

wow how dare FROM gave us the freedom to decide how many s we want to have ourselves, how dare they went out of their way to bring any semblance of innovation and creativity into the franchise?? good thing they copy pasted DS1/went for the nostalgia milking route for the sequel. it may lack all kinds of personality, customization and might be a boring bloodborne reskin but hey, that's apparently what makes a good game! as long as the monkey brained mainstream mass is satisfied, all is good.

[@donyates7300]

never noticed how many bosses have a "fuck away from me" aoe move....

[@rozarx731]

I love how the bosses just look so confused when you just simply dodge their super massive powerful attack Especially 1:14, 2:06 and 4:38

[@huntexlee]

they are like whatt...

[@Apeacrobat01320]

I always thought ds2 was the hardest souls game until I finally learned about adaptability, I mean, it didn't fix some of the bullshit, but definitely made it significantly easier

[@escrivaodegalarran1098]

Actually, dark souls 3 is the hardest, it's the only game in the series that completely destroyed the purpose of shields and heavy armor, the only two effective builds is light + melee, light + magic or simply a combination of both, and even then, the animations aren't as good as DS1 or 2, making it nearly impossible to get to used to some gatekeeping bosses that dance if you know what I mean, in a sense, most of DS3 difficulty lies in technical aspects unrelated to player ability and more to game design.

[@poliorice3600]

@@escrivaodegalarran1098 I'd have to disagree, I've played ds3 with light weapons, greatswords, ultra greatswords, and magic, and they're all viable, shields are definitely less useful aside from parries, but most weapons are at least somewhat viable, especially in pvp. The difficulty of the game is only in speed, being faster than 1 and 2, but that's it

[@panzerofthelake3437]

I had 20 ADP and i was dodging Ivory King's sliding slash attack with only back step even he hit me

[@carlosmainardi1833]

That is amazing. I never imagined how op adaptability could be.

[@dumbimpostor7021]

This isnt op at all, most players have 20 adp and that is literally 0.133 seconds of invulnerability less than max adp. And all of these attacks can be rolled with 20 adp

[@lemur332]

Well i learned 2 things having watched this video: memes about invinsibility in DS2 are a thing and I want to listen to Aldia's theme once again.

[@doom1078]

This is how dark souls 3 felt for me, when I first played it

[@itzmagictime8824]

This actually makes the game look fun

[@ivanasukjadic1423]

The game is lots of fun without adp. You are just bad at dodging. Git gud noob

[@Big_Ol_Roach]

The words of someone who’s never used the havel moonlight greatsword combo

[@dragonslayerornstein2361]

No it just fixes the hitboxes problem

[@itzmagictime8824]

@@dragonslayerornstein2361 and the shitboxs in ds2 makes it really unfun imo for melee strate

[@dragonslayerornstein2361]

@@itzmagictime8824 yeah I was fighting the last giant and I was standing at away from his hand sweep attack but somehow I was caught in that attack and died

[@suigetsuh17]

I get PTSD whenever you did those risky rolls, especially with Duke's Dear Freja and Fume Knight

[@fabiandebus3]

Kinda lame how so many bosses have the same AOE explosion move in this game. They even reused the sound of it, makes bosses feel less unique imo

[@hoyteternal]

just switching from 2014 pc version to sotfs already feels like getting 99adp

[@suigetsuh17]

Finally DS2 is getting the attention it deserves

[@littlemoth4956]

Not to say it was positive attention

[@Keln02]

*98 adaptability:* mortal pleb *99 adaptability:* I AM A GOD

[@williamfarren4734]

Ultra instinct?!

[@chancepeterson6346]

Fun fact, several of these can be dodged with a back step, if that tells you anything

[@Magnymbus]

I had forgotten just how distinctly jank 2 actually was. I will admit though that given enough time it becomes part of the charm for those of us that like this one. Each of the soulsborne games have their own unique character and jank to them. Most just happen to jive with the charming jank of DS1 over the "fanfic" jank of 2. And I just happen to enjoy fanfic. lmao.

[@gavlanwheel9271]

Ds2 "fanfic"???

[@steel5897]

ADP will never cease to amaze me at how awful it is, it has to be a top hall of fame entry for worst mechanics ever conceived in a video game. It's tying a basic control function of the game to a stat, it's like if a platforming game added a deliberate input delay to every jump and then required you to invest points into a stat to reduce it.

[@christophercollins3632]

Disagree. Two reasons. 1. This is RPG-esque. You start off weak. You don’t immediately start with the best possible roll (get naked before taking first step). Some classes should feel different, like Explorer, with higher Agility. Not exactly like every other class , just by getting naked. 2. PvP uses soul memory. No build should get a god roll for free. Everyone has to pay, a little or a lot, depending on your playstyle. Encourage build and playstyle diversity, when everyone isn’t able to have the best roll without any effort.

[@enzostupido2941]

Legend says if you get 100 adaptability youcan rool back in time

[@gilgamesh1148]

That was great 👍

[@Leviathis_Krade]

the prowling magus is considering changing covenants

[@SirSpycrab]

i audibly laughed when you rolled INTO the severed head explosion

[@AlexHyena1]

wow, it almost looks like you're playing a genuine Souls game now

[@gavlanwheel9271]

Casul

[@ESKATEUK]

That’s genuinely the first time I’ve seen the prowling magus attack, as I’ve usually killed him before he can perform one..

[@TheMartinbomber]

Honestly didn't know Adp gave you more s lol. I've put 1000s of hrs into the story and pvp, beat the game more times than I can remember and only had whatever Adp your starting class came with lol

[@noop9k]

Lol, I instead immediately was shocked that I’m getting damaged in the middle of fast rolls, raging a lot. The stupid part about DS2 system that the weight only affects the length/linear speed of rolls, until 70%. But s controlled by entirely different stat that is not actually connected to visible animations. The only way to see the effect of higher ADP is to look at your healthbar. You may be rolling great distances while naked, but still get damaged a lot, if ADP is low. Totally counterintuitive. I can’t believe you spent so much time playing while getting damage while dodging. Especially in PvP.

[@Piratadoidao]

@@noop9k they should've at least made it pretty clear at the start of the game that ADP was mandatory or at least a game changer. But you can play the whole game without even noticing it.

[@christophercollins3632]

@@Piratadoidao They tell you in the help descriptions. Better evasion. Which can only mean roll or backstep. Plus, they’re not going to put a red flag on it

[@garterbelt4732]

Damn bro and I've been leveling strength this whole time

[@chosebine2169]

Fix the hitboxes: X max out ADP: ✓

[@Kold-Kanadian]

"simple" the mad man said "just don't get hit, lol"

[@kusty1342]

actually most of this attacks you can dodge with 6 ATT and ~40 APD

[@AdelizaNera]

So you're telling me with 99 ADP I can have a normal dark souls roll? WONDERFUL

[@arturomedina2055]

So that was adaptability... I learned something new today. 😁

[@9157ching]

the higher adt level you get, the longer invincible time your have while rolling if I wasn't wrong.

[@kyanmori9272]

Adt increases agility which increases I-frames on Rolls and speeds up how long it take to drink estus

[@szifon2]

I started playing Ds2 and I was so frustrated about the key-frames not working as in Ds3...... now I got it... thx

[@Dynam0]

Like half of these you can still roll through with 20 ADP and a light character, the rest you can just avoid by moving out of the way...

[@Alas-yc1sg]

I see a video of ds2 and get the urge to play again only to get to menu screen then log off

[@blackgod9952]

And i thought adaptability makes you take less damage

[@janedoe4929]

It does "from a certain point of view."

[@jamesputterlik225]

Not technically wrong.

[@hafyrrochagm7471]

Ray is such a legend. Can pull of this accurate dodges in any video of this Chanel with less adapt.

[@PierreLucSex]

Well it's called ds3

[@lonekraken2637]

Ds3 aka roll simulator

[@Steverogers-s8k]

Roll simulator lag 3

[@kyanmori9272]

Ain't this bad on I frames but yes.

[@blueblur1984]

Seriously...you need 40ish levels in DS2 ADP to have level 1 light rolls of DS3. I had a hard time with DS2 until I learned this.

[@theemeghost5721]

At least it’s fun to play unlike cough cough scholar of the first shitboxes

[@lightbrand_]

idk a sizeable amount of these you could dodge through with just 20 adp, got my own experience to back it

[@jeremyrobel9072]

I've beaten dark souls 2 with 5 ADP and if there's anything I learned from it, it's that ADP is useless. You can dodge basic attacks by learning attack pattern and the ones you can't dodge are usually slow enough you can just back away til you're out of range

[@lightbrand_]

@@jeremyrobel9072 makes it more lenient is all, if I'm not mistaken without upgrading adp you have 6 s which is precisely the same amount you get on monster hunter dodge rolls and that game doesn't suffer from it

[@NathanTruby]

Improvise,adapt and overcome meme at its peak

[@Maaaaaaaaaate]

Should've levelled adap- wait. Hang on.

[@billbadson7598]

tfw you pass the threshold and it become easier to count vulnerability frames than invincibility frames.

[@MorganEarlJones]

literally playable

[@Lucivius27]

Prowling Magus back stepping in utter confusion and fear: "How the? What just? What the fuck are you?"

[@briangil9592]

I still don't trust it with Aldia's big ass fire balls, which apparently isn't even considered fire damage

[@Jaden-Ring]

Say what ?

[@davideboscacci5339]

More like "How it should work | Dark Souls 2"

[@orpheuz6680]

Amazing dark souls 3 gameplay.

[@MediHusky]

They put resistance in Dark Souls 1 and then realised nobody would put any points into it. So for DS2 they made everything except 1 thing resistance tier.

[@samgafford2371]

You could even deflect the Emerald Splash

[@thaias9654]

Attunement gives agility (less than adaptability based off memory) so imagine how much I-frames you’d get with 99 adaptability *and* 99 attunement

[@christophercollins3632]

Agility governs IFrames, and caps at 116. A huge stat investment, for sure, that only level 400 and above go for. But 99/99 wouldn’t do anything more than whatever combination equals 116 agility

[@azuretao]

at this point panic rolling could indeed be a good option for stun lock

[@hawkwood9257]

so ds2 with 99 adp is basically ds1 and 3?

[@AzuraeJades]

More like Demon's Souls

[@fartsneed9464]

No. DS1 has a coherent narrative, 4 iconic bosses, lore that leads you to a conclusion. 2 is a weird mishmash of leftover assets with 4 random bosses, no explanation and little lore

[@lebron73]

More like 32 adp

[@sand7861]

@@fartsneed9464The 4 "lords"(only 2 of them are actual lords) in DS1 are extremely disappointing, specially BoC

[@tomasstargamer6308]

@@fartsneed9464 Lmao, the Lord bosses in 1 were mostly shit, nobody likes Kings, Seath is boring, BoC is iconic for being so terrible.

[@radiocontrole]

i finished the game without spending a single point in adaptability, didn´t know what it did

best ds game

[@LyllianaofMirrah]

based ksmir

[@barbarianzg8826]

Agreed..

[@Danzroo]

For the bosses g.dam

[@ЛМорнингстар]

Not agree.But yes,it's interesting game.

[@yourdad5799]

We're on a ds2 video. Why are you talking about DS1?

[@knightsilverthesoulsenjoyer]

I think what a lot of people tend to forget as well is that the faster you roll, the less time that your body is in the hitbox, which leads to less i-frames being needed to dodge an attack. Speed, Direction, and Position matter.

[@SpiritGun69]

Now do it again with backsteps

[@ovanmaru]

ADP and/or ATN raise AGL. The reason they added agility was to force melee users to spend points in another stat other than just strength and health. This actually made the game a lot more balanced in PvP since casters had to spend points in ATN for spell slots. Its a shame that this system gets such a bad rep considering all the good it did. This is why DS3's pvp meta is so melee heavy :^)

[@stupidloser2714]

i mean, homing soulmass and fire surge are top tier, banworthy spells in ds3, which is way better than anything that could be said about ds2's spells

[@josepmargui4294]

2:20 Looking Glass Knight was like "...god you're kidding me?"

[@Chuygonzales86270]

there sure are a lot of bosses in this game

[@dsagent]

A few minutes ago I was just playing dark souls 2. 30 is usually more than enough, especially if you have 10 attunement. If you are confident in your rolls then it is not that big a deal. I also prefer to keep weight under 50%.