When Your Phone Turns on You - Ep. 6.346

[@franciscampagna2711]

"The innocent have nothing to fear." Said every tyrant.

[@Paul-ou1rx]

They notified him by e-mail??? It sounds like one of the scams you tell us about. "You have 7 days to secure your online identification from a federal police investigation...." It also brings new meaning to your "Innocent Bystander" t-shirt.

[@chuckwingo11]

I don't get the cops thinking on this one. If the "suspects" location data shows him riding by the house, it would also show that he didn't stop there for the 5 minutes it would take to get off the bike, enter the home, find something valuable, then get back to the bike to ride off. i.e., the same data that showed he was in the area also shows he couldn't be a suspect. Maybe a witness, but not a suspect.

[@FreethinkerDave]

Yeah, I thought the same thing. I'm a cyclist and track my routes on a Garmin, which shares info with Strava. I've also used Map My Ride. You can easily tell if you stopped or just rode past.

[@matthewk6731]

You're giving the cops way too much credit.

[@roberteltze4850]

But they may see someone riding down the street at 15mph and think they are casing the neighborhood.

[@billdougan4022]

If he had a flat tire or a long stop light, in front of the house, they could claim, he had time to do the crime 💍

[@harriettedaisy2233]

The cops didn't have a time for the burglary, so they might infer that the bike trip was 'casing the joint'.

[@richardbidinger2577]

He was only a suspect till he hired a lawyer, then police realized they might actually have to work, and gave up.

[@wesley115777]

To me, It looks like the police don't want to test the constitutionality of their overly broad search. It's much better for them not to fight and potentially lose, and then lose a "valuable" tool.

[@crispycritterz]

@@wesley115777 One way or another the constitutionality of this policy WILL be tested. The problem is most departments will try to get some form of consent decree to avoid litigation. There are many aspects to this and it's almost guaranteed to be under scrutiny for decades.

[@Cheepchipsable]

I think they rely on a suspect caving due to fear. It could simply be the case they looked more closely at the data and realised he didn't stop, and/or rode past as a regular thing - or maybe a better prospect came to light.

[@jimgaluska1361]

What I want to know if they dropped the entire request to Google for the entire geo search, or did they just drop the request for this one person's data. Since court filings are public records accessible by the police. This one person's identity was exposed the second he filled the paperwork to keep his identity private. So, it is a no- brainer that the police drop all proceedings related to his identity.

[@noirto2]

And people complain about chinese government having access to private company data... when every other develop nation pretty much do the same.

[@thephotoop]

I saw this yesterday and was surprised it went has far as it did. The police were wise to drop it because if they lose in court they now have a legal precedent AGAINST the use of geofence. By dropping it they can continue to use it against the less well informed and continue to get warrants that could otherwise be illegal.

[@MrTom1379]

Imagine if you drive through a high crime area every day on your way to work , you’ll be prime suspect number 1

[@algrayson8965]

If you live in Pennsylvania, work in New York City, and drive through New Jersey, you owe Income Tax to New Jersey in addition to Pennsylvania, New York State and New York City.

[@priayief]

A scenario you described got me thinking about how my views about law enforcement have dramatically changed over the years. Specifically the one about police going door-to-door in a neighborhood searching for possible witnesses of a crime. I'm 72 years old and I would say that up to my 50's, I would have answered almost any questions a police officer asked me at my doorstep. Today, I would politely refuse to answer even the simplest questions. Sadly, I would even be wary of letting an officer view the inside of my residence. I am and always have been a law-abiding citizen and I'm not a cop-hater. I believe that most law enforcement officers are basically good people and they perform a useful and necessary service to society. However, I have learned (among other things) that law enforcement officers are not legally required to tell you the truth. So how am I to know if the officer on my doorstep is actually canvassing for witnesses? Maybe and probably he is but I'd rather not take the chance. Cheers and thanks for your many interesting, entertaining and informative posts.

[@Bob-Lob-Law]

I remember the good old days when the Police would just BEAT the truth out of you. AH, it was a much simpler time back then.

[@preiter20]

Still an active policy in Chicago.

[@harmgregory4560]

And people always loved seeing GUILTY people caught (or just punished) by unconstitutional means....'Robocop', 'Death Wish', etc. 'GUILTY' meaning, usually, not looking like me, and I've been guilty of that point of view myself.....

[@icelandviking1961]

Ah, the LA county jail in the 60’s, the good old days.

[@tyrannyresponseteam9534]

Bob, That's back when criminals holding government offices weren't doing their dirty deeds right out in public. When men dresses up in a dresses stayed in the closet and weren't dancing in front of our children. When walking door to door handing out gospel tracts wasn't weird and or illegal. When we would laugh at our differences with each other and didn't get all butt hurt about it. When young guys and girls would look at each other on a date and not their phones, and the list goes on lol 😂

[@algrayson8965]

@@harmgregory4560- Death Wish doesn't illustrate unconstitutionality. Paul (Charles Bronson) wasn't a government agent. He was a private citizen.

[@ROT2024]

I was a systems engineer for 16 years and I can tell you everything you do is tracked by phone and other devices. Never use Alexa or any of those types of products as they listen 100% of the time and disable the mic on your phone on all apps or the phone will listen also. And of course never use any gps tracking software- better yet turn off the phone when you don't need it. Public enemy #1 is actually your phone.

[@JasonW.]

Yes. And I have "disabled" all voice commands on my phone. I was complaining to the wife about some really horrible directions Google maps tried to give me, and the phone spoke up asking how Google maps could be made better. W.T.F. If you think your Google (and probably Apple too) phone is not listening to everything, randomly speak near the phone something like "Google sucks" or worse. Don't be surprised if your phone speaks up saying it is sorry and how you think Google could do things better.

[@harmgregory4560]

Sure seems like it....

[@davidpeterson6147]

Most phones and any vehicle with voice activated menus listen and record what you say as well.

[@josepherhardt164]

And "turn off" means pull the effing battery. >:(

[@chiplevan6622]

I've had a casual conversation with people about things or famous musicians and later at night have KZbin recommend videos about who or what got mentioned.

[@iamanempoweredone6064]

All of that for a suspected 2000.00 theft? Sheeshe, I had a huge problem getting the police to act on a $35,000.00 embezzlement case in which I had evidence as to who did it. Something else is involved.

[@martinggale]

Perhaps Gainesville's relatively large police department and declining crime rates have something to do with it. Idle hands, devil's work, etc.

[@ONPASSIVE_Mr_A_Mufareh]

The Mayor's Grandmother?

[@algrayson8965]

Embezzlement is often very difficult to prove. Takes actual work.

[@algrayson8965]

@Mik Wri- Next morning the Thrift Shop employee threw the entire pile in the dumpster, then reviewed the night's security cam video for whoever dumped the pile of junk right under the "DO NOT LEAVE DONATIONS AFTER HOURS" sign, got a license plate and called the cops.

[@cruiserdog9913]

Lawyer: Witness and Suspect, two different things. Police: Witness and Suspect, the same thing.

[@algrayson8965]

Lawyer: Innocent and Guilty are two different things. Cops: No diff. Two kinds of people: the Convicted and the Not Convicted...yet.

[@celesasheldon6931]

Police have gotten caught writing filth about me on like. Stuff like unsavory things

[@Windmerica]

If they had access to his anonymized Location data, then it would show that 5 seconds earlier he was riding his bike past the previous house, and 5 seconds later he was riding his bike past the next house, therefore anybody should be able to conclude (as he was in MOTION) that he never stopped at the house, nor had the time to commit a burglary there.

[@rosebarnes9625]

Now don't go thowing logic into their perfectly executed witch hunt!!!

[@atticstattic]

Virtual Asset Forfeiture

[@mr.h5436]

or: "When tools get tools."

[@lolzor582]

oh god please no

[@susanepp2707]

Can he sue to be reimbursed for the expenses the police caused him?.lawyer costs, missed wages, etc. I think the police department should pay him back.

[@adama7752]

Nope.

[@avega2792]

I highly doubt it.

[@harmgregory4560]

In a 'Constitutional Republic', yes.....oh, wait....

[@TerryProthero]

@Susan Epp I doubt it. The guy was being cautious, and maybe that's smart, but being a "suspect" doesn't actually mean a whole lot. He wasn't being charged with a crime. There is no guarantee that he ever would be. He was just one of several people who might have committed the crime. The police could easily argue that there was no need for him to fight them getting the information. It's information they might just as easily have received from people on the street who saw him riding by. I had a similar situation when I worked for a company as a temporary employee. Towards the end of the shift, the employer told us that we all needed to stay there until the police arrived to talk to us. Something had been stolen, and they needed to get to the bottom of it. Was it even legal for them to do this? I'm not sure if it was. Maybe a person could demand to have an attorney and refused to answer any questions. The employer may not even have had the lawful authority to detain anyone. But I clearly didn't steal anything, and so it made little difference to me. And I figured that offering resistance to what they were doing might make me look guilty or cause problems for the agency I was working for. A police woman talked to me in private and asked me a number of questions. I answered her truthfully, and that was the end of it. I never heard from the police again on the matter.

[@rosebarnes9625]

Not a chance.... watch the vid about the couple who happened to have a shoplifting suspect break into, then hide in, their house. Police tracked him to the house then completely destroyed the house with grenades and full auto fire. They sued the city claiming destroying is same as taking so city should reimburse them (for the losses insurance did not cover) and courts ruled the government is immune from prosecution unless they violate your constitutional rights IN A MANNER THEY HAVE BEEN EXPLICITLY TOLD WILL REVOKE THEIR IMMUNITY!!

[@iamanempoweredone6064]

We have become the product.

[@machintelligence]

A 97 year old lady who is missing jewelry? It could have been misplaced, or "removed" by a relative or caregiver. Why not look at the obvious first. Was there even evidence of a breaking and entering crime? This whole crime sounds screwy.

[@HiroNguy]

Exactly. What if she's just trying to scam her insurance company!

[@machintelligence]

@@HiroNguy At age 97 I doubt that *she* is the one. Most folks are not at their sharpest at that age.

[@HiroNguy]

@@machintelligence True. But then again....

[@matthewgaines10]

When policing goes bad. When evidence can't close a case, cast a net large enough to enclose everyone and make them justify their actions.

[@rodneyperry6942]

Yup, a fishing expedition

[@igounfazed]

@Mathew, I was almost subject to something similar to this, but it was not 'technology' per se, but investigative laziness. They knew a 'blood type' and were investigating everyone in their database with that blood type stationed there that day, requesting we all submit to DNA testing without either being charged or told the reason for the investigation. I don't know what came of the investigation, as I referred them to a lawyer and never heard from them again. They would not even divulge the day the crime being investigated occurred. It wasn't a nice experience, and knowing from this story what google, etc. does... it makes me glad I have severely limited my usage of portable technologies and applications.

[@matthewgaines10]

@@igounfazed That is terrible that wide nets are being cast that ropes in the innocent. If you have the gall to ask people for evidence, surely they can tell you what crime they are investigating. You did the right thing. Tell the to talk to your attorney.

[@algrayson8965]

@@matthewgaines10- At 69 I'm tired of the crap and don't really care any longer. I'm not putting tape over my selfie lens.

[@eddiehuff7366]

George Orwell is becoming quite the psychic.

[@drucifer_too]

Just remember to leave your phone at home when casing crimes or committing them.

[@algrayson8965]

The chip that was embedded in you at the hospital when you were born is good enough for tracking you. The newer ones have microphones.

[@HappilyHomicidalHooligan]

This sounds like a Classic Violation of his 4th Amendment Right to be free from Unreasonable Searches...

[@georgehoover2043]

Your shirt reminded me of the old gum packs that had cards with monsters on hot rods....good times....

[@machintelligence]

It looks like a "Big Daddy" Roth design to me.

[@jphickory522]

Agreed, brings back good memories of a different time

[@Bob-Lob-Law]

@@jphickory522 His other arm ( not pictured ) needs a shifter above his head , but those are Rat Fink eyes

[@woodguy76]

Steve I am so thankful for this video. I am glad I found it. I immediately GOOGLED (LOL) how to turn off geofencing and turned it off. Thanks again.

[@amyx231]

Wait. So if there’s any crime on my street I’m a suspect because I regularly jog in the area? Insane conclusions.

[@rosebarnes9625]

Especially when so many keep repeating the illogical line from Sir Arthur Cannon Doyle "when you eliminate the impossible, everything left, no matter how improbable, must be true" (it should end "must be possible" not "must be true")

[@ellobo8593]

In Google defense everyone, they did recommend Steven's channel to me... 😂

[@JoshSweetvale]

13:00 Yeah, but anonymity is ITSELF suspect. "Unlike 99.99% of the town's population, we didn't know where you were during the axe-murder, so you're under arrest!"

[@jeremyashford2145]

This is exactly the argument for the anthropogenic global warming crisis: just a guess!

[@JoshSweetvale]

@@jeremyashford2145 As long as it sounds logical on its face, (the) people don't notice they're being seduced into crossing moral lines.

[@rosebarnes9625]

Guilty until proven innocent.... we ARE there!!

[@algrayson8965]

@@rosebarnes9625- I thought so!! Turn yourself in.

[@smartcarturbo]

Thank Steve ... Thank you so much Rob Australia........

[@alleyoop4465]

Dont worry about it Steve. A Ford in Australia is the same as an American Chrysler because of the coriolis effect.

[@hotlavatube]

Given the detail of GPS tracking data, they didn't really need Google to identify the user. If you just look at his GPS journey's endpoints you could have discovered the guy's home address, workplace, therapist, church, gym, and likely position at any date/time.

[@ai4ijoel]

You were turning a noun into a verb, but an opinion without 3.14159265 is just an onion. People used to ask me what I was doing when some famous person was killed. I would tell them that my attorney has instructed me to make no comment about the case.

[@hootersnoocher8467]

It always feels like... somebody’s watching you!

[@iamanempoweredone6064]

We have sold our souls for convenience!

[@easternwoods4378]

Same with Stingray phone surveys

[@kstricl]

Well, that's profiling. "They can't afford an iPhone, they must be a criminal." If you are tech savvy, look up the degoogled project, /e/.

[@Bob-Lob-Law]

NO It goes the opposite way " I could not have killed him, I do not own a phone "

[@emmanuelsinger1513]

I'll go google that right now!

[@oz5wob3]

1984, enough said... Big brother is watching.

[@HiroNguy]

1084 + 36 years = Dystopia.

[@gabrielesparza4]

Put the phone in airplane mode or turn off location. Will still record data when using said apps.

[@builderofcastles]

Well, over a year ago a person i liked to follow wrote all about this on their blog. The thing is that bad guys KNOW their phone is tracking them, so unless they are shtupid, (and many are) then they will leave their phone at home when they go to commit a crime. Criminals also know to use burner phones. SOooooo, this means that police are looking for someone to pin the tale upon. They are interested in arrest numbers. These police probably know the fences, and could find the perp through them... but they are not really interested in turning over the cities underground. Innocent people are going to continue to get hit. Have their lives destroyed (three days in jail and an arrest record destroys most middle class people's lives/livelihoods) because the police want to look like they are doing something.

[@algrayson8965]

Common burglars aren't that schmart. Their brains are meth damaged. They know where the pawn shops are.

[@j0hnnykn0xv1lle]

I have been sounding the alarm for years and nobody is listening - When are the America people going to fight this invasion of privacy?

[@chrismoore1984]

Are you really that Johnny Knoxville

[@algrayson8965]

@@chrismoore1984- He's an FBI “owned" informant.

[@chrismoore1984]

@@algrayson8965 Epstein in witness protection.... I new it

[@shawnkelly1241]

I mentioned so much about this and other things the govt and cops are doing for yrs and just get called nuts and insane living in fear. Well my fears are right. Look at shit. Look at govt and cops. I just get labelled as mentally ill for saying cops, govt and criminals will use all information they buy from google, face book, banks and many many.more. every key stroke is even tracked. Every conversation is listened to. Wrong words and cops be looking at you.

[@Dr.M.VincentCurley]

Hey! that house down the street might be a big score! Let me first activate my running app to make sure I get all of my steps in

[@josepherhardt164]

In one sense, you have a point. In another sense, the vast majority of criminals aren't that bright.

[@rldickie]

As a hiker I understand the desire to track your mileage and see where you've been, but why in the name of all that is unholy would anyone be willing to let faceless strangers track their movements? Get a map from the Gass station, a compass and a wristwatch and rediscover the joys of pen and paper. Be FREE!

[@davekramer4266]

The GPS signal also show any stoppage, and the amount of time stationary, also longitude & Latitude.... So it sounds as tho the police can't understand what their looking at and proper interpretation....

[@algrayson8965]

GPS signals are one-way. The GPS satellites only transmit the GPS signals. They don't receive anything from your phone or from GPS locators like surveying equipment.

[@MJTAUTOMOTIVE]

Love the GTHO tshirt Steve.

[@bettyboop6292]

What until the phone scammers, apply this "new" twist!

[@grimfang5023]

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.". Thomas Jefferson

[@algrayson8965]

I volunteer you, as I'm neither a patriot nor a tyrant.

[@michaelwight2740]

Wouldn't the app also show that he didn't spend any time at the location?

[@Strawman333]

Good point.

[@southjerseysound7340]

They'd say he was casing the place and left his phone at home when he returned to rob the house. If he doesn't have a iron clad alibi he would be screwed and a less fortunate person might take a plea deal.

[@JasonW.]

Don't bother lazy investigators with facts contrary to their story.

[@HisNameisWonderfu]

Hi Steve, I really enjoy your video. Oh and your laugh is enchanting!

[@pedraw]

The coming police state is absolutely terrifying.

[@CarlJohnson-ry3gc]

So plan your defense before your crime. Have a cohort take your phone and go several miles away while you are committing it. You won't even be a suspect.

[@Bob-Lob-Law]

That has been done . Guy sent his one friend to Atlanta with his phone while he had another kill his girl friend. He got caught by Store Video down the street Show was 48 Hours

[@manguydude287]

Well you know... they have to arrest SOMEONE

[@jakeclauson9863]

I recently received a seemingly nice notification from google, it said hey check out where you've traveled this month. And it gave me a page in a google app that would allow me to select any day out of a calendar and it showed on g maps (just like if you searched an address on g maps) everywhere I went that day or any day of any month of any year that they had info for. I quickly went into the deepest settings I could find to shut off location settings

[@HiroNguy]

That only shuts it off to *you*. By force of law G still has to track you.

[@Paul-gz5dp]

Criminals are far easier to get away with crime because of these kinds of things as innocent people are far more likely to get convicted of crimes.

[@rgnestle]

HEY!!!! My 1993 Saturn SL2 was the best car (durability wise) that I have ever owned! I owned it from 2001 to 2014 and only sold it so I could get a renter out of my mother's place so he would drive to his new home. It withstood a football-sized rock hitting the catalytic converter, a deer jumping in front of me on the highway at 70 MPH, and any number of fools hitting it in-between!!! Saturns were good until GM bought them. :) Love your channel!!!

[@j0hnnykn0xv1lle]

How does this not become a 4th Amendment violation?

[@rickfletcher5053]

Big brother is alive and well, we will never again have ant real privacy

[@annebeck58]

And this is exactly why I NEVER turn on mobile data, and turn OFF apps when leaving home. There is one app I use, occasionally, and I turn it on, via wifi, only when I need to use it; Lyft. That's it. And, now, I mostly use Yellow Cab, as it is a lot cheaper, going home from shooting music at clubs, downtown (lyft charges about 25 and the cab half that, and the cab does not require me turning on the google apps.) THIS is why I do not allow myself to be tracked via phone. My son always acts like I'm crazy for that. So, who's crazy, now?

[@mr.h5436]

lol!

[@pablitoperez9109]

I think people really think that flicking a virtual button on a phone to “turn off data” is the biggest joke of a lie that we are being told

[@annebeck58]

@@pablitoperez9109 If the apps are not on (and I hardly download apps), the data is not being captured. If you turn off you internet (which is what I am saying), on your phone (and only leave the phone on), apps do not continue collecting data.

[@algrayson8965]

Because he was chipped at the hospital. You amuse him.

[@eduardopena9326]

Steve...I read that same story, and there was a link to a case out west where some guy was arrested for murder somewhere out west, I think in Albuquerque, based on a geofence warrant. He spent 6 days in jail before the state dropped the charges. Turns out his step dad was using his old cell phone, and was driving his car when he shot and killed the victim.

[@KabobHope]

This will happen more and more. When a crime happens there will be a scan of all databases -- Google being but one -- to see who was in the area. They will be considered as potential perpetrators or witnesses or uninvolved.

[@andrewlambert7464]

Steve, it’s called “Canvassing” as in, canvassing the neighborhood. My uncle was a high ranking member of the Louisville, Kentucky Sheriff’s Department and was a task force leader in violent felonies. He often spoke of the fact that while the neighbors were almost universally uncooperative the “canvassing” was mandatory. He would joke that sometimes the “criminal mastermind” lived just across the street. While this was several years ago, I find it inexplicable that SOP for detectives assigned the case would have so radically changed... Please keep up your “Good Works” for those of us woefully uninformed about basic legal issues...

[@algrayson8965]

The people who live across the street couldn't remember what the truck the burglars backed up to the door looked like, what the burglars looked like. The nextdoor neighbor, a Sheriff's deputy, couldn't remember what anything looked like even though the burglars were ransacking the house on three consecutive days. Neither could her boyfriend, a probation officer.

[@groermaik]

Hundo, unfolded, under the "Today Will Be Awesome" desk plaque on the top left side of the main cabinet. 544.

[@HollyAndMistletoe]

I wonder if turning off my location services does any good? Or does that just tell everyone except me where I am?

[@matthewgaines10]

Your service provider will still know where the phone is. Google probably will use tower data to locate you. Good question.

[@HiroNguy]

No, you only turn it "off" for yourself, not for Korporations and other government agents.

[@HollyAndMistletoe]

Yeah. I thought so.

[@russellcannon9194]

Thank you very much for informing us about this. Cheers, Russ

[@Cartier_specialist]

This type of thing is exactly why I don't send my DNA to one of those ancestry companies.

[@pierowmania2775]

Same here. Unfortunately my sister did. She's waaaaay to trusting of everyone, government included.

[@robertbalaicius2645]

Thanks Steve, your videos are informative and fun.

[@Bob-Lob-Law]

They use phone location every day on the TV show 48 hours and have for years. 90% of the cases are solved by phone location and text history. The phone is the best tool the police have in their shed. Dick Tracy had a wrist watch cell phone in 1936

[@Black_Jesus3005]

Guilty until YOU prove your innocence!

[@dannfish]

Hi Steve, does this man have a case against the Police for discrimination if the Police did not request the same data from the Geofence from Apple as well? Seems like they could be targeting poorer people who might more often be using a lower end cheaper phone.

[@n3qxc]

Do a google search on "Google Takeout" and see the info they have on you... It took me 2 days to download the 29 Gigabyte of data they have collected on me.... It even records your voice when you do a voice command to your phone... scary stuff these days....

[@MrAustrokiwi]

Recently I had a delivery driver damage a package by throwing it over our gate. That driver also claimed had signed for it. Google maps time line enabled me to prove the Driver was lying as it clearly showed I wasn't at home when he said I was.

[@danielwardin4688]

Good show as always. Regards.

[@vacman91001]

Steve the next question...... I have used the GPS on my phone while driving. I have noticed that it also shows the current speed limit on the road I am on. It also shows my speed I am going. Is it a matter of time before the police trying to use that data to give out speeding tickets?

[@vacman91001]

Or your insurance companies to see what your driving habits are?

[@Bob-Lob-Law]

@@vacman91001 I thought cars had a Black Box

[@mr.h5436]

Yes, this tech is old,cheap, and proven. Enable car GPS and going 90 is a thing of the past. Tickets in the mail. Lives saved, traffic cops laid off.

[@willmeariver7079]

They already do with commercial truck drivers. That's why they are pushing for electronic logs for all CDL drivers.

[@algrayson8965]

Rental car companies already ”fine” renters for driving faster than the highest speed limit in the region. Read your contract.

[@da-n-ny1742]

97 yo old missing jewelry? Many 97 yo's (and younger) still wondering you stole their B&W tv that they were just watching yesterday.

[@josepherhardt164]

@@ab935 Being even older than you, I agree with you.

[@da-n-ny1742]

Having had two parents each above 80, I have experienced this. One had a head injury another a stroke. The stroke was permanent. Both thought they just lost something they had lost 40 years ago. That aside I am surprised the detectives put that much effort into such a low dollar crime.

[@HiroNguy]

@@da-n-ny1742 Lower crime rate means less job $€curity for the revenuers. Time to invent some crimes!

[@janetelainedeloach6501]

family and friends who went into that house should be questioned too.. Usually an inside Job by someone She Knew.......

[@royfrazor7337]

Steve Google keep track of me everywhere I go. I know this because I get stupid questions about business I've never been in.

[@Blargaldalien]

And, I do not have a cell phone because? What will be next? Mandatory cell phone possession?

[@sbrazenor2]

I’m surprised they haven’t already tried that yet.

[@HiroNguy]

8G smartphones implanted into your brain....

[@algrayson8965]

Oh, they can make do with the chip that was embedded in you at the hospital when you were born. The newer ones have microphones.😁

[@Blargaldalien]

@@algrayson8965 They had those in 1956??

[@algrayson8965]

@@Blargaldalien- Yes. They weren't nearly as compact as now. I called it a “chip” for the convenience of young folks but they actually were vacuum tube-type. They occupied the entire cranium.

[@AFloridaSon]

With most people getting fed up with the _Big Brother Effect_ of today's technology, it might be a good time to start investing in pagers and payphone companies - lol.

[@LadyViolet1]

Now I get why some people turn their phones off and put them in what they call faraday cages while on the go. They're supposed to block signals from coming in or out. I thought they were just paranoid before.

[@turcksmachine6652]

There are some interesting things to know about this technology. When it was new, but was not used by consumers, the device stored the location information, it wasn't shared. Then later it was used to specifically tell location information to other users, or a supervisory data collection system. It seems strange that we can't have the original version to use, why is it shared with the server at all?

[@ez1913]

Google is evil? Shocked.

[@shookoneldn300]

Guilty until proven innocent!

[@ronabitz5156]

I can see the questioning. Why did you go by that house so often? Why were you casing the place?

[@brokewing7937]

So if your going to do bad things turn your phone off

[@SwitchedtoLinux]

This is why my whole channel teaches people to take their privacy seriously. My phone does not connect to Google (or any other) big tech company. They can see only info from a pre-paid carrier...

[@jamesbeemer7855]

A movie called " minority report " .

[@brandonmccullough6381]

Not being attached to a smart phone is the only fix for this problem. How did we survive before?!?lol

[@aussiebloke609]

By using pay phones...that seem to not exist any more. Which is a bummer.

[@MrJonsonville5]

I only turn my location services when I need to look something up on maps. That's starting to look like a better and better idea.

[@josepherhardt164]

But there's no way to tell that they're really off. Alas. Unless you pull the phone's battery.

[@MrJonsonville5]

@@josepherhardt164 you are not wrong my friend.

[@jim4859]

The carriers know roughly where your phone is because it has to constantly contact cell towers www.propublica.org/article/cellphone-companies-will-share-your-location-data-just-not-with-you. Anyone can get this level of information not just gaggle. The GPS can provide more detailed location information if you're using an appropriate application. If you want to avoid being tracked, leave the phone at home, power it down, or get a Faraday cage/wallet. This makes those applications like Strava or Ride with GPS unusable, but that may be better than an interview with the police. Who knows what your car can do these days.

[@wooly1950]

It's a Ford Falcon GTHO, and was the fastest four door car in the world back in 1970, or 71, a pristine model was sold for just over a million dollars some years back.

[@4793bigdaddy]

The police can tell right away if he was a suspect by reviewing the data. His gps would also log any stops he made and how long those stops lasted. The cops just want to go phishing.

[@JasonW.]

While fishing, they sometimes debate with each other. They are good at both. Master debating and baiting at the same time.

[@TheUserid82]

Bluetooth tracking is a fun one as it can be used to know when you have a burner phone or to ID everyone inside a 100m radius of the device. The DOT will use bluetooth tracking for normal things like what direction people take at a light to know if they need to improve a rout or to know what the average speed along a section of road by having devices a set distance apart to know when you pass each one but it is so much more as it can ID every bluetooth device you have so when a new ID shows up with a known ID it is flagged to you.

[@JamesSmith-jq2jc]

I think that's why you can no longer take out the battery on newer phones. Sure, turn it off, but is it really ? Just hearing this makes me want to design a phone holder that's all lead, or of a material that resists being found, whether it's on or off.

[@Watchingyou-daily]

If I heard you correctly the state attorney withdrew the warrant. I think they withdrew the warrant to avoid a separate court to rule that practice unconstitutional. If that happened to me I think I would find a way to get a court to move forward because the states attorney should have previously reviewed that warrant request as a way to protect the state of Florida.

[@johnchestnut5340]

With only a few exceptions, you cannot turn off tracking. A reporter/technologist tried using two otherwise identical phones. One had a working number. The other did not. Both recorded lots of tracking information. The only way to not be tracked is to not use the technology. "We have dug a pit for ourselves leaving none outside to help us out. What do we do? Keep digging. I hear that China is on the other side waiting to help us out once we reach the surface."

[@jasonasselin]

The app would have shown he rode right by.. I think he wasted money defending himself. How many times does this same technology show that people weren't somewhere else? There are times to fight and other times not. Was this the case to hire a lawyer? I don't think so..

[@dsloop3907]

Ben is hiding quite well under the "Today will be Awesome" sign.

[@kurtsmallegan4216]

Steve, in Michigan do semis have the right-of-way in a roundabout like they do in Indiana?

[@shawnkelly1241]

Trucks must follow the same rules as cars. Its not right of way. Its weight of way. If a car is in the round about the truck must yield just as a car would. If a accident happened the truck that did not yield would be charged.

[@jdigi78]

The thing that bothers me is there is no law saying google has to make tools for the police to fetch data on who was in an area. If they suspect a specific person is there and get a court order for google to give up that person's data that would be required by law. But what incentive does google have to cooperate beyond that?

[@dynorat12]

but the data will also show the path of the biker and how long or if he stopped so if they have that data they should already know he drove (past the house)

[@peha524]

"Today will be awesome"

[@traceling]

On the other hand, couldn't that same app provide one with an alibi should other circumstantial evidence lead police to suspect you are a perpetrator? I hope the supreme court gets an opportunity to weigh in on these types of sweeping warrants. Certainly sounds unconstitutional, but has it been decided specifically with respect to these types of GPS-enabled apps?

[@fclopez1]

Can you sue the police for the legal fees?

[@mollydion8311]

Your tee-shirt reminds me of MAD magazine.

[@chemeketa1704]

Many insurance companies have aps that track your driving habbits supposedly to get better rates. Could law enforcement get excess to this data to issue citations?