My theory is that a cyborg splinter group realized they were losing and left. Then made the autamatons and now lead them from a planet we do not see, keeping the few cyborgs they have safe while grinding super earth down in disposable forces.
@shiggermetimbers7 ай бұрын
Makes sense, I like this theory
@yeets-olotgaming20747 ай бұрын
well if that is true, they are gonna have to grind alot longer,the helldivers shall not fall!
@bento62307 ай бұрын
I like the theory except for the part where they stayed as cyborgs. If they whole reason to become a cyborg was to be a better version of themselves then why wouldnt they fully convert
@SamHoward-l9q7 ай бұрын
@bento6230 it could be that fully transferring isn't possible or isn't preferable. I feel like it's the second considering how stupid the automation act sometimes.
@blinkyy10887 ай бұрын
@@bento6230 I bet they can't create synthetic brains as complex as human ones yet
@RipVanWinkle447 ай бұрын
There’s dialogue from one of the npc’s on your ship that says they’re in the mines for 100 years of rehabilitation
@receivedbeans85557 ай бұрын
Hasn’t it been 100 years since the last war?
@kompatybilijny93487 ай бұрын
@@receivedbeans8555Questioning this is very undemocratic and that is treason. And need I remind you, treason is bad.
@thatoneweirdphoenix7096 ай бұрын
@@receivedbeans8555How would you know, citizen? You are not 100 years old. This is an infringement on democracy, and therefore, treason. Maybe they just mean 100 more years though. We will never know.
@cursedhawkins13056 ай бұрын
@@kompatybilijny9348 Ok, just because the game's similar to Starship Troopers in terms of propaganda, doesn't mean you have to be equally as brainwashed IRL.
@kompatybilijny93486 ай бұрын
@@cursedhawkins1305 Whooosh
@mcdumbass55257 ай бұрын
One of the crew in game states that they are in 'the mines' for rehabilitation
@smolltaco56677 ай бұрын
I hope they come back stronger and smarter than the automatons, maybe wort with them and probably kill thrm just for cyborg racism sometimes
@DivineOrange7 ай бұрын
@@smolltaco5667why would the cyborgs attack the automatons because of “robot racism” wouldn’t it make more sense for them to team up since they both hate the super earth federation?
@rokealva66607 ай бұрын
This is how its end when you try make shorts on thing that is popular but you dont know shit about it Also u r right its quote of that captain near mission choosing site in ship
@GoTrespassing7 ай бұрын
If super earth falls, maybe the automatons will release the cyborgs from the mines
@therandomcommenter66297 ай бұрын
Specifically the mines of cyber stan their capital which is actually on the galactic map to the North on the western side in fact it is theorised that the planet of cyber stan is one of the automatons main strategic objectives perhaps if they take cyber stan they might be able to free the cyborgs from the rehabilitation Mine's
@Nostroman_Praetor7 ай бұрын
Do not let The Clankers reach Cyberstan. Nothing good will come of it.
@EvilMonkey4037 ай бұрын
imagine if Cyborgs got added to the enemy roster if automatons took cyberstan
@collinwiegand28286 ай бұрын
@@EvilMonkey403that would kick ass. Im here for it
@senpyrothewizard81726 ай бұрын
@@collinwiegand2828 Veteran of the First Galactic War here. The Cyborgs were HELL to deal with in the first game. Especially higher difficulty ones... Tanks that can launch flares that summon tanks that can launch flares that summon tanks that can launch flares that....
@theskyizblue2day4316 ай бұрын
@@senpyrothewizard8172illuminate were worse. Remember backwards controls? Most annoying shit ever
@GundamReviver6 ай бұрын
@@theskyizblue2day431nah illuminates were a safari. Being ammo backpack and HMG, and go ham. You didn't need AT, just mobility and a crapton of lead.
@Dark_Slayer30007 ай бұрын
Player of Helldivers 1 here. According to the cyborg lore, their goal was to become machines and they mechanised their body's piece by piece as much as they could. Since Helldivers 2 plays 100 years after the galactic wars of Helldivers 1, they have surely evolved their technology to the point that they had turned their minds into machines too, removing the need for human parts. Another supporting factor for this is that all the enemy unit concepts for the Automatons have exact Cyborg counterparts.
@EvilMonkey4037 ай бұрын
what's interesting is near the automatons factories there is crates of human body parts suggesting they are using them for something
@economicfreedomfighter7 ай бұрын
🤔
@Dark_Slayer30007 ай бұрын
@@EvilMonkey403 religious purposes
@TheJiminyJim7 ай бұрын
@@Dark_Slayer3000sacrificing pathetic meatbags for machine god)?
@JRGProjects6 ай бұрын
@@EvilMonkey403Cyborgs can't survive without their organic components. Automatons are no different. Like their more infamous Borg Collective cousins, neither can't survive without an organic anchor. That's why gas attacks against their foot solders are still effective. Under all that tech, there are parts of a human being inside that frame.
@gilliamsteiner27647 ай бұрын
The girl by the arcade says they are sent to the mines of Cyberstan, an actual planet close to the top of the north part of the map! Sent to work 100 years after their defeat in the great galactic war, or something
@Botar487 ай бұрын
Cyberstan was also capital of Cyborg secessionists in first game.
@ZmoDaCheese7 ай бұрын
Wait, wasnt the great war 100 years ago according to one of the npcs. So cyborgs would be released from their labor sentence soonish?
@torg21266 ай бұрын
@@ZmoDaCheese they "patrioticially volunteered" to continue working for the "duration of this crisis." Like Soviet gulag inmates "volunteered" to work extra shifts.
@chasejones61646 ай бұрын
Sounds like a good place for an uprising and introduction to a new faction
@possiblyzslot8386 ай бұрын
This is the most widely accepted story since both games have evidence to support this. The exact origin of the Automatons is unknown, but according to the wiki they are created/descended from the cyborgs and their current plan is to reach Cyberstan to free the Cyborgs, which I assume we'll get in an event in the future. Similarly, we are currently trying to activate a network to push back the Terminids, and doing so would supposedly attract the attention of the Illuminate, also from the first game.
@ItsShooty6 ай бұрын
It's already established in game that the Cyborgs are imprisoned in the mines on Cyberstan. The Automaton push seems to be heading toward Cyberstan to liberate them.
@zyphxo6 ай бұрын
I do wonder if automatons as a faction name will be replaced by cyborgs again if they happen to make it to cyberstan and free them
@titan1umtitan6 ай бұрын
@@zyphxoit’s more plausible that the cyborgs and automatons will attack in different directions as separate factions, add in the illuminate and you have an enemy in every direction
@Yumao4205 ай бұрын
@@titan1umtitanthat'd be amazing
@CallieYote7 ай бұрын
Honestly im surprised no one seems to be considering the "Propoganda" alternative; The Automatons *are* the Cyborgs, just renamed by the ruling powers of Super Earth so they could claim Victory over the Cyborgs all while having this "totally new and different threat" that they started calling "Automatons"
@GoTrespassing7 ай бұрын
That’s an awfully anti-democratic statement 🤨
@StealthGunRunner7 ай бұрын
Is this an alien sympathizer?
@Bruh-lq7ev7 ай бұрын
That's brilliant. Too brilliant, you aren't paid to think soldier!
@Blacksheep0457 ай бұрын
For real. I thought it was obvious that the Automatons *are* the Cyborgs. Super Earth propaganda tells us that they are just unfeeling inhuman machines so that we don't feel remorse for killing them but in reality each is a human being that has replaced most of his physical body with cybernetics. That's why the more rank and file have more humanoid anatomy and why they still die to headshots. They even have a Brasch Tactics segment about "hyper-reactive subroutines" to explain why robots would be suppressed when getting shot at.
@Z5-XB6 ай бұрын
You’re idea is amazing soldier! Too amazing. It’s undemocratic and socialist!
@flyinggothicsheer13467 ай бұрын
My theory is the Automatons were a more extreme subfaction of the Cyborgs. After the Cyborgs lost the first war the Automatons became the leading faction and replaced the Cyborgs by socially pressuring Cyborgs into forsaking their humanity entirely. Instead they have fully mechanical bodies.
@shiningamaterasu25797 ай бұрын
The cyborgs were a tool of the illuminate, most likely they just threw the cyborgs away and replaced them
@smolltaco56677 ай бұрын
I hope they come back with smarter strategies
@marshalpheonix67057 ай бұрын
So far, the only conversation on this topic I got from the ship NPC states, "I wonder what we'll do with the automatons after we beat them. The simplest would be to eradicate them like we did the Illuminate. Or, perhaps we can enslave them to work in the mines, like we did with the Cyborgs."
@theatagamer907 ай бұрын
"Social pressure" ie Skynet. The automated bastards Skynetted the remaining cyborgs not under Super Earth control.
@flyinggothicsheer13467 ай бұрын
@@theatagamer90 We don't really know if the Automatons are individualistic or controlled by an AI commander. It's an up in the air question whether the Automatons have transferred their human minds into robot bodies or are more like a Droid army.
@forrestpesaturo98687 ай бұрын
There’s a line from one of the crew saying that the cyborgs are in the rehabilitation mines on cyberstan which is a planet you can find on the northern outskirts of the galaxy map and I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the automatons are heading that way
@JRGProjects6 ай бұрын
They want to liberate their Cyborg cousins. I don't think Super Earth is a target yet. Once they free Cyberstan, then it will be.
@MrRulet5507 ай бұрын
My theory is that Cyborgs, amidst the chaos with helldivers facing the bugs, created Automatons in secret and had them spread far enough away to get under the radar and raise an army big enough to reach and save their creators from the mines at Ciberstan
@БорисЛазаров-п9х5 ай бұрын
My theory is that automatons are the cyborgs made into more mechanical forms for more effective 'rehabilitation work' and to make them appear less human
@MrKilliewiggles7 ай бұрын
If you talk to your crew member on your ship, she has a chance to mention "The automatons will end up like the cyborgs. 100 years of rehabilitation in the mines of Cyberstan." So thats where they probably are lol Kind of exciting too because Cyberstan is a planet on the galactic map, a few sectors above the Xzar sector where we're currently fighting the automatons.
@callumduckworth74906 ай бұрын
Even more important is the automatons seem to be mobing up to cyberstan rather than intowards super earth
@LucidRealityAI6 ай бұрын
@@callumduckworth7490seems to imply that the automatons were created by the last remaining free cyborgs to “liberate” their comrades
@rambo-cambo35816 ай бұрын
It's been a hundred years between games
@zeratul____12286 ай бұрын
Either 2 things will happen. 1: The Automatons are making a purposeful push for Cyberstan to break out however many Cyborgs are still alive and get them back to "Safe" territory. or 2: There may come a day where the prisoners of Cyberstan break out and become another area of conflict.
@superchase41066 ай бұрын
@@zeratul____1228that’s what I’m thinking, that there may be two factions or that they might go back and forth depending on the planet (later on)
@kittenmastermind6607 ай бұрын
Or cyborg military tech advanced to the point where they no longer have to risk there own lives on the battlefeild
@savonlofton7 ай бұрын
As someone who didn't get the pleasure of enlisting in the Helldivers in the original, I have caught up on multiple briefings about the history of this fine military. I have always thought the two factions fought before were in hiding after losing the previous Galactic War. The Cyborgs, in this case, made the Automatons to fight us while they plan their return.
@NoobNoobNews7 ай бұрын
I think that the Automatons are simply the cannon fodder while the cyborg population is in the core systems.
@lachskartoffel7 ай бұрын
would be prety cool, if we get different enemy when we push them back
@sirsanti84087 ай бұрын
I thought there was some code that was solved that showed that the automatons were made by what was left by the cyborgs to fight in their stead
@AlexiSonic6 ай бұрын
It is! And we can even see Cyberstan still being under Super Earth control... for now.
@shadows_star7 ай бұрын
Cyborgs are in the mines of their home world and have been for a hundred years being 'rehabilitated'. The binary message released and translated from the helldivers 2 twitter before the game launch has the cyborgs saying their children, the automatons will not be oppressed. So my guess is that the cyborgs knew they weren't strong enough nearing the end of the war to beat Super Earth and began creating their 'children' with the tools they believed they'd need to maintain the freedom they themselves were about to lose.
@therandomcommenter66297 ай бұрын
Funnily enough the planet of cyber Stan is on galactic map to the Northwest and and the automatons appear to be trying to get closer I wonder what happens when the 'children' finally free their creators
@JRGProjects6 ай бұрын
@@therandomcommenter6629I am reminded of Star Trek The Motion Picture where V'Ger met its Creator. Didn't go over too well.
@sirdave29856 ай бұрын
Same as comunism
@rvio787 ай бұрын
The cyborgs, according to NPC dialog, lost a war, and they were imprisoned, basically turning them into slaves.
@phantomshotgun92237 ай бұрын
From what I heard from other players and the Helldivers official twitter, the automatons are the predecessor/children of the cyborgs who are still enslaved in the mines of Cyberstan. Not sure how they did it, but there are hints to suggest this
@MrCdog856 ай бұрын
I think the Cyborgs and the Illuminates in a last ditch effort before they were wiped out in the first game built the automotons. The few remaning Illuminates went into hiding while the Cyborgs were forced into the mines of Cyber Stan, holding out for the automotons or Illuminates to free them from slavery.
@anotheryoutubeuser53796 ай бұрын
I like the idea that cyborg implies part human, and to the federation, they are no longer human.
@andrewwigham30267 ай бұрын
I always assumed that the ‘Cyborgs’ made the Automatons - so they’re pulling the strings behind the scenes and the Automatons are their mechanical battle slave robots fighting on the front lines so the cyborgs don’t lose lives.
@elliotcovington57397 ай бұрын
In a npc dialog they were put to work in the mines and illuminates are extinct
@Lord_Chibi7 ай бұрын
apparently one of the news reports says there are "sightings" of illuminates in the outer areas, so some probably survived but are currently in hiding
@Lord_Chibi7 ай бұрын
apparently one of the news reports says there are "sightings" of illuminates in the outer areas, so some probably survived but are currently in hiding
@TheArklyte6 ай бұрын
Considering their super unit and its description from first game, they are cyborgs. They've just gone full Adam Smasher mode😅
@ivanjurcic44446 ай бұрын
One of the voice lines that I have heard form my super destroyer crew implicates that we have put the Cyborgs to work in the mines. It went somewhere along the lines of " I wonder what we will do with the automatons after we defeat them, maybe we will make them work in the mines like we did with Cyborgs. "
@MegaMjjordan7 ай бұрын
If we could have both while making the Automatons a sub-faction of the Cyborgs I think they could prolong the game. Instead of just replacing the cyborgs with them
@moskieryder53174 ай бұрын
The atomotons are the children of the cyborgs
@sirstone7 ай бұрын
I like the theory that the cyborgs helped release containment of the bugs and made the automatons as their predecessors. They wait lurking for the right time to show...
@dilbertdonges9107 ай бұрын
There is literally dialogue in the game that tells us that the cyborgs were sent to labor camps after the first war. I believe the dialogue comes from the female officer that stands near the supply bay next to the arcade game.
@billdecompsa47057 ай бұрын
The lady in my ship told me that the cyborgs were working off their crimes in the mines, and that the automatons would join them soon.
@1234redwing4 ай бұрын
There was a line I heard in game from one of the ship crew that said that the cyborgs were forced to work in the mines
@Picklejho15 ай бұрын
This guy gives the plant he took his name from a bad reputation.
@alexhuntercdc51517 ай бұрын
The flankers! They are in the shadow, man!
@YazzayBoxing6 ай бұрын
Lore stated directly from the devs is that the automatons are the creation of the cyborgs. Which is why in game rn that automatons are heading towards cyberstan, where the cyborgs are held captive in the mines
@theangrygermanlad13287 ай бұрын
“From the moment understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me”
@javiermaceira44066 ай бұрын
Magus 😢
@SprinkCalSA6 ай бұрын
I like to imagine some wanted to fully advanced into automatons, ended up split amongst themselves and had a civil war with the automatons coming out on top
@BaskBall26 ай бұрын
If you’ve noticed the Automatons behaviour on the war map, they are pushing north on the map rather than towards super earth, because on the north of the map there is a planet called Cyberstan. The planet is supposed to be the cyborgs homeworld, so whatever they’re doing, they seem like they’re trying to make it back to Cyberstan
@jongleske73926 ай бұрын
The ship technician mentions that they were sent to the mines of cyberstan for 100 years of rehabilitation, basically to the gulag.
@ladiesman21385 ай бұрын
If you talk to the person to the right of the de-iceing she'll say that the cyborgs are working "in the mines". So maybe superearth conquered them.
@SniperJoJo-fo9su6 ай бұрын
Maybe the cyborgs human side had decayed away so they turned full robot and using rebranded themselves to be a lot more threatening
@jaqaivisjames99716 ай бұрын
Basically the Droid Federation from Star Wars using droids as a full blown army
@twistsnkicks4 ай бұрын
"Sahborgs" lol
@oscarlittle6395 ай бұрын
The music in this short is the Helldivers 1 main theme! The nostalgia hit, I used to play that game all the fuckin' time. I tell you, back in my day, we didn't fight them fancy shmancy automatons, we fought good ol' flesh and blood and steel cyborgs! Divers these days, I tell you-
@rizaldard38356 ай бұрын
maybe it was part game design, because if the enemy are cyborg there could be a lot of blood in the battlefield
@gortharthegamer85726 ай бұрын
Fully thought this was gonna talk about how Helldivers barely get out by the skin of their teeth but some have injuries to their limbs. It would’ve just pointed to the paywalled requisition page but it wouldn’t have been wrong
@RedGod556 ай бұрын
There’s a reason you have your guy covered in blood and not oil after every automation mission, I think they still have some humanity in them
@beargaming15466 ай бұрын
I like to imagine that it's just the cyborgs going full adeptus mechanicus
@theovertonvoid28696 ай бұрын
In HD2 your crewmates tell you the cyborgs were sealed in the mines on Cyberstan for their protection. The automatons were created by them and they are fighting their way to cyberstan to liberate their creators.
@chopperharner15326 ай бұрын
"Safly secured in the mines of ____" - dude next to the mission map
@royaltyallen11626 ай бұрын
If you guys want more lore, OG Helldivers account tweeted in binary numbers and the translation was Cyborgs calling automatons their children
@rickygillett19326 ай бұрын
If you remember Cyberstan was the home for Cyborgs. It is now controlled by Super Earth and you can actively find it as a playable location in Helldivers 2. So saying the Automatons are the Cyborgs or a variant of them is the closest to “correct” theory without some major story stuff happening and explaining more.
@AlexanderosD6 ай бұрын
"when i realized the weakness of my flesh...." Don't forget, the Illuminate have yet to show up 😳
@rebelcommander7starwarsjur9225 ай бұрын
“A certain faction seems to be missing” I would have gone with the illuminates rather than the cyborgs which let’s be clear I want them both to return to the game more so the illuminates but cyborgs as well yes
@DESTINATION-TV6 ай бұрын
I think the devs made a tweet about how Super Earth trapped all the Cyborgs in the Mines of Cyberstan, thats why the Automatons also started to rather go in tge direction of Cyberstan instead of Super Earth
@phoenix-kingz6 ай бұрын
Another theory I’ve heard is the cyborgs saw they were losing to super earth or simply got pushed out really far and were left forgotten. In that time they got set up on a world and instead of making themselves the soldiers and frontline men they developed fully mechanized machines to do the fighting for them while they control things from their prime world maybe even piloting the robots from afar to explain the automatons sometimes “human” like features and reactions
@Stolen_skeleton_tf26 ай бұрын
The third faction of Helldivers 1 enemies seems like it perfected their stealth too well, because no one remembered them
@Justcallmegene6 ай бұрын
They're on cyberstan, being used as slaves, and the automatons are the creation of the cyborgs
@PerfectDeath46 ай бұрын
They are in the mines of Cyberstan (check about 2 sectors north of the current frontline to find the sector Cyberstan is), I expect the Automatons will plan a push in that direction. Sometimes you can make out their chant has a line saying Cy-ber-stan.
@Max-bg7oo6 ай бұрын
I was wondering why the original was muted sometimes, thanks a lot for the reupload!
@Gdsryrox6 ай бұрын
Considering the first Galatiac war ended 100 years ago the cyborgs bodies just you know died out so they replied themselves with actual robots with perhaps hulks being the last actual organic members that are kept alive similar to dreadnaughts in warhammer
@Perclocept7 ай бұрын
I like to think they dabbled in forbidden technology and were forcibly altered or were tricked into giving up their humanity after being pushed back to their home.
@snappyiintense36486 ай бұрын
From what I have heard from NPC she said that the bugs we are currently fighting are nothing like the ones we fought in the last galactic war and the other one said the last galactic war was won over 100 years ago so helldivers 2 is 100 years later in helldivers 1 we defeated all three factions she also mentioned that we put cyborgs into mining facilities and i hear from a friend that third faction went into exile after their defeat thats why their missing in helldivers 2 but their coming back we saw something in a mission we were doing and saw lights like the third faction would use when spawning in when we saw this we freaked out being helldivers 1 veteran and by the way the map looks even a fourth fashion may be introduce
@snappyiintense36486 ай бұрын
If they do add a 4th fraction it will be crazy if it was just humans who don't like super Earth or their way of living and are rebels planets that are trying to break away from super Earth
@mrnapoleon20016 ай бұрын
I like the idea that automatons are mostly robots that work for the cyborgs and maybe big units like devastator, tanks , husks or maybe with Infantry the commissars are the cyborgs
@thememeboi50577 ай бұрын
There’s a voice line in game from an NPC that talks about how the Cyborgs are enslaved and working in the mines
@sethfogs1176 ай бұрын
i believe that the automatons are either cyborgs that escaped super earths grasp and managed to fully mechanise and are now going to free their cyborg brothers from cyberstan to get even more powerful, or are robots engineered by escaped cyborgs in order to fight back and such.
@brian94976 ай бұрын
I've noticed that the automatons were trying to conquer the sectors on the top left of the galactic map rather than pushing towards super earth. I think that is because they are trying to take back planet "Cyberstan" wich was their mother planet back in helldivers 1 and was already under super earth control here in h2 since the game launched. It's just my theory obviously but for me it makes sense, the robots were pretty passive compared to the terminids, maybe they are trying to retake cyberstan and rebuild a fearfull army.
@slade3556 ай бұрын
I kinda figured the cyborgs made the automatons because losing a cyborg is equivalent to losing a soldier losing an automaton is equivalent to losing equipment
@btark916 ай бұрын
The automotons are currently gathering "production materials" to rebuild the cyborgs.
@Thegentleman68326 ай бұрын
I believe that at the last second before the cyborgs lost the war they decided to send a small group of people far way to evolve and fully mechanize themselves so they could eventually return and free the cyborgs. This also explains why in one message from the automatons it says that even if super earth loses the fight the automatons will leave them alone and just go to cyberstan which is the cyborgs home. In another message one automatons trooper wishes he had other senses then just sight and sound and wants to feel smell and taste the sun which makes sense since it’s been so long that they probably forgot what those other senses are like. The sad truth is that they were forced to fully mechanize themselves which made them stronger at the cost of taking away their senses
@joshuageorge44036 ай бұрын
The cyborgs are buried in the mines of cyberstan, the cyborg homeworld in the first game. The automatons are the drone forces to throw at the helldivers
@kylec.20756 ай бұрын
The cyborgs were enslaved in the mines of Cyberstan, which is north on the galactic map in Helldivers 2. They Automotons (instead of moving towards Super earth after their victory) are moving towards cyberstan
@marcusvaladez447 ай бұрын
There’s some banter on the ships with crew members of your super destroyer saying they were put into rehabilitation camps mining out cyberstan for valuables
@SpecimenX-90006 ай бұрын
Cyborgs fully integrated with computers and became the automatons sort of like necrons
@HinoTestsuExtra5 ай бұрын
Some of the NOC dialogue stated that the Cyborgs are working Super Earth’s Mines
@dannykong41816 ай бұрын
Now that we know there’s a GM for the galactic war and two seemingly empty war fronts to the north and south of Super Earth, I’m willing to bet the Automatons are just thinning the lines for the cyborgs to make a push.
@matthewdominguez43506 ай бұрын
Probably went full “the flesh is weak”
@Khornecussion6 ай бұрын
Cyborgs: " From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh... it disgusted me. "
@Like-Calvino6 ай бұрын
Well every time I’ve heard something about it it’s always been that the automatons are the children of cyborgs, and that the cyborgs got enslaved in the mines of cyberstan, and no automotons are trying to free the cyborgs.
@konrad85416 ай бұрын
Probably super earth start calling them automaton because calling them cyborg meaning the helldivers are fighting another human and that would put "are we the baddies?" thought on their citizens.
@masteroogway50286 ай бұрын
Pretty sure that they said that the Automatons are currently pushing for the Cyborg Homeworld to free them from the mining camps. As the Automatons were created by them as a failsafe since they can endlessly build themselves with the factories on their occupied planets.
@Gideon_Ofnir_The_All_Knowing6 ай бұрын
The hulk is based off of the redemptor dreadnaught from Warhammer 40K, and the way those work is in the center, the face plate with the glowing eye, is a steel sarcophagus, basically a walking tomb controlled by a dormant mind, that could be the cyborg.
@leonelpadilla84846 ай бұрын
Everything starts as a design concept. The lore is usually added after.
@Commander2046 ай бұрын
A possible theory, unconfirmed of course, is that most of the cyborgs have been captured and are being kept on a prison planet that even we Helldivers aren’t privy to know about and the remnants set to crafting and manufacturing the automatons to replace their numbers while also planning to free their brethren.
@erer40117 ай бұрын
I saw a theory where because the Terminids were being farmed and have somehow got out, AND the automatons have the same symbol as the cyborgs, the cyborgs planned both things at the same time
@velcro10616 ай бұрын
They are in the mines of cyberstan. This is stated by a npc above your ship. Cyberstan is the actual location that the automatons are fighting for as they want to liberate them and it is 2 Sectors away as of right now
@saengpharn30546 ай бұрын
Actually I've noticed sometimes when you kill the automomotons in game they squirt out red blood, so maybe they are the same faction still
@EladaDiel6 ай бұрын
There's so much potential for future updates in this game
@bigmonke76616 ай бұрын
Some of the automatons have what looks like human skin stretched around their skulls and on their armor
@DeranRoute-vu5jy6 ай бұрын
It’s confirmed by a message received in Helldivers 1 building up to the release of Helldivers 2, that the automotons are the “children” of the cyborgs basically a contingency created to carry on thier legacy after super earth conquered them.
@spennypubstub7 ай бұрын
The ladies in the ship mentioned that the cyborgs had been forced to work in the mines.
@keeperoflies77057 ай бұрын
One of the people (ai bots) on my ship said “the cyborgs work in the mines now maybe the automitans will to once we defeat them” that’s pretty close to what they said might have changed phrases a little by accident
@lgs-0086 ай бұрын
Still relatively new to Helldiver’s lore, but as it stands and has been stated quite a few times in the comments: Both the Democracy Officer and the Service Technician state that the cyborgs are in the mines of Cyberstan undergoing rehabilitation. As for their origin it would not be far off to assume that they were created by the cyborgs, whether it was a last ditch effort or an excuse by Super Earth to get into another war (because why not?). I would thoroughly love to see the cyborgs return only to repeat the cycle again. But that is if the Automatons end up taking Cyberstan, though that wont be too long since everyone is focusing on the bugs since we are a bit under prepared to defend against Automatons at this time. Looking forward to the new armaments.
@assaultghost007 ай бұрын
My favorite theory I’ve heard is that the cyborgs are on cyber Stan working in the mines for rehabilitation but the war factory’s of the cyborgs remained online. And that the factory’s now without out any humans to turn into cyborgs have improved and altered the cyborgs machine body’s to be completely run by machines, which explains why the automatons have a humanoid appearance and human like features (like the skull shaped heads). They’re using the same machine body’s as the cyborgs but instead of them being controlled by a human it’s internals is completely machine.
@runikvarze61915 ай бұрын
Or, the helldivers and super earth command have just stopped giving a shit about differentiating between cyborgs and automatons and lumped them together. I mean, their methods and goals seem to line up pretty closely. And they function largely the same.
@stevensanders66966 ай бұрын
There's plenty concrete from day 1 of launch. In game dialogue tells us blatantly that the cyborgs are being re-educated in the mines of Cyberstan ever since we captured it in the First Galactic War. The automotons patrol chant can be translated from the heavily voice modded stuff you hear to find they're chanting about freeing Cyberstan. This tells us the automotons are connected to the Cyborgs, we're just not sure exactly how
@Superagent6666 ай бұрын
I've just assumed the Automatons are just the army of of the cyborgs, rather than any sort of replacement.
@TheConfigurat0r6 ай бұрын
Cyborgs and squids surely will be new races to join later on. Nids and automatons are just the races humans happen to be using for Ressource and Labor.
@pippobaudo99256 ай бұрын
there is a tweet from the helldivers page from 2021 in binary code, translated it stated "our sons the automatons won't suffer like we suffered under super earth" so my guess is this is the new cyborg forces but they are still alive out there and if they really turned 100% machine they are sentient, unlike automatons
@dillon62806 ай бұрын
Cyberstan is a planet you can find in the northern section of the galactic map. This is the cyborgs homeworld
@cakeyeater73926 ай бұрын
Some say the cyborgs made the automatons, but are now under Super Earth on their home planet of cyberstan.