Where do Hobbits come from and How did they find the Shire? | Lord of the Rings Lore | Middle-Earth

There was once a time when the Hobbits lived in distant lands far from the comfort and peace of the Shire. A time when they were forced to overcome conflict and danger as evil beings encroached upon their lands. These evils which included Sauron, the Easterlings and the Witch-King of Angmar would drive them from their lands and they would have to seek refuge elsewhere in Middle-Earth. In today's episode we'll be exploring the entire history of the Hobbits, from their time in the Wilderlands to the establishment of the Shire.
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[@karolflis187]

"Improvise, adapt, overcome" - an old Hobbit proverb.

[@micahhammac1242]

Marine corps hobbits

[@stephensmith3111]

In a recent Time Special Edition - The Lord of the Rings there is an article titled "In His Words". Professor Tolkien is quoted by Guardian journalist John Ezard (1966): "The hobbits are just what I should like to have been but never was - an entirely unmilitary people who always came up to scratch in a clinch."

[@TsukabuNosoratori2]

Sauron just can’t let anyone have anything good.

[@GeekZoneMT]

Yeah he's a terrible neighbour to have!

[@TsukabuNosoratori2]

“Like a bad neighbor, Sauron is there” 🤪🎶

[@Ni-boo]

"Can't have shxt in Middle Earth"

[@thorshammer7883]

Sauron's idealogy is by definition a bad idea in it's context and nature.

[@vehx9316]

"There is such a thing as malice and revenge". Gandalf

[@LamanKnight]

When I first heard that Ents were unfamiliar with hobbits, I figured that hobbits must have always kept to themselves throughout history, and most of the world was completely unaware of their existence. But it turns out, hobbits have been around for a very long time, and they had dealings with a lot of the groups and races of Middle Earth. It's really fascinating to hear about it.

[@stumpe9662]

"Sauron this, Arnor that, im just trying to grill" - some hobbit probably

[@TheSyvamiete]

11:02 A wild Snufkin appears 🤣

[@Enerdhil]

That is sooooo funny! 😂😂😂😂

[@davis.fourohfour]

I'll hold to my internal canon that the Hobbits are humans crossed with dwarves, and a touch of elves. Fallohides more of the elves, Stoors and Fallohides far more of Dwarves. The East is a wild place.

[@worldtraveler930]

Alright now, I can't help but think 🤔 of some Numenor saddling up a fuzzy faced Dwarf Lass!! 🍻🤪

[@morgant.dulaman8733]

I like to think they could have some ancestry in those renegade dwarves from the first age, the ones that disliked elves far earlier than the rest. It's just nice to think that all they endured-being cut off from their homes because their ancestor's were criminals, being hunted by elves, and then having to deal with Morgoth and men-wasn't for nothing.

[@rickrogan2355]

@@worldtraveler930 Well in our real world Sailors got drunk and called Manatees beautiful Mermaids. So it's more possible than you think.

[@whooll]

Excellent video. The hobbit history is much more interesting and uniquely more satisfying to learn about than I had expected.

[@GeekZoneMT]

Yeah I agree, they've got such an interesting past and it's cool how it overlaps with so many other histories such as that of Rohan, Angmar and the Necromancer

[@Enerdhil]

Gandalf would be happy to see you make such a statement.

[@nanoglitch6693]

Feels like the hobbit clans were loosely inspired by England, Ireland and Scotland.

[@lowlandnobleman6746]

Wow. Caught this one early. Always love hearing more about the halflings.

[@GeekZoneMT]

I hope you enjoy it buddy, it's probably my longest video on Hobbits so far!

[@GeekZoneMT]

Which Hobbit clan is your favorite? And what do you think about the Hobbit Origins and the great journeys that they had to undertake? As always subtitles are available and feedback is welcome!

[@o_LL_o]

Too much back story. Feels patronizing; like it is made up only to explain how Gollum found the Ring and no one noticed. Can't really get into ancient hobbit clan immersion.

[@meduseldtales3383]

Do you think Hobbits were descendants of the Edain or some other unknown group from the East? Did they evolve from one group, or could they be outcasts from several different groups of humans?

[@adrianfuegoscuro6308]

Well I love the Highlands and Hillsides so probably I´ll be a Harfoot XD

[@tsuchan]

Definitely not the Stoors, because I have a pathological dislike of beards. I'm sure it's the Fallowhides, because they were more adventurous and fit and friends of elves.

[@worldtraveler930]

As each has their own strengths I'll find myself leaning more toward Baggins as they are proper blending of the 3 as for the origins one viewer has put forth the concept that hobbits are a blending of men and dwarves which I must say is an interesting concept. 🤔😳

[@Enerdhil]

I like Farmer Maggot. He is my kind of hobbit.

[@grimreaper6557]

What a wonderful job you did in showing hobbit history and the founding of the shire awesome job =)

[@GeekZoneMT]

Cheers James, I think it's a part of the Lore that is often overlooked :)

[@mondocabazo6327]

@@GeekZoneMT what is your favorite character in all of lotr

[@gavhenrad]

Fantastic video. So well read and informative. Their tough origins show how they were able to endure so much throughout their missions and adventures.

[@GeekZoneMT]

Cheers mate! Yeah their past is so different from what we'd expect of a faction that lived in the bliss of the Shire!

[@Jaasau]

Awesome video. You can learn all that there is to know about the Hobbit’s ways in a month, and yet after a hundred years they can still surprise you.

[@aja3728]

I didnt know snufkins and the moomin house was in middle earth too lol. The Green pointy hatted character with backpack with the blue house in back ground is from moomin series seen at 11:03

[@bfyguy]

"Rose to the occasion" you just had to say it ;D

[@GeekZoneMT]

Couldn't resist!

[@meli7408]

I discovered this channel a week ago and I watched every single video (almost) because of this wonderful narration, the strong research work and beautiful pictures. It feels like a warm tale near a crackling fire

[@spacewiz163]

Ive always found them a curious standout among the most common races.

[@chrismaccool9097]

I'm fascinated with the Stores who lived in the gladden fields I want to know if their hobbit village was anything like the Shire or was there any significant differences? And what did The Stoors who lived in The Gladden Fields call their hobbit village?

[@yodaslovetoy]

When a mummy hobbit and a daddy hobbit knock knees, 9 months later a new hobbit is spawned.... or delivered by stork, I dunno, I'm not a biologist

[@GeekZoneMT]

hey, maybe they pop out of the ground also, just like Dwarves 😂

[@yodaslovetoy]

@@GeekZoneMT or come out of a hobbit hole......

[@markus-hermannkoch1740]

Elves, men, orcs, dwarves... their origins are quite clear. The hobbits, curiously, are a different story. Thanks for telling it!

[@worldtraveler930]

One viewer has suggested that hobbits are a product of men and dwarfs! 😳

[@markus-hermannkoch1740]

@@worldtraveler930 the half-orcs of Aule! That is a mind blower indeed! 🤯

[@ironblue4593]

Well it is time to watch this video a second time, really enjoyed the topic of the video

[@GeekZoneMT]

Thanks man, I'm glad you enjoyed it buddy!

[@matthewronson5218]

Always in depth and thoughtful consideration of the source material.

[@marckrieger3277]

Love the rich history in tollkiens world like theoden remembers legends about halflings and remarking how similar their languages were.

[@davidkglevi]

So cute to see a Moomin image in the compilation.

[@AndreaMagdalenaKosha]

My favourites are the Hobbits. No story is enough 😊

[@lukepage4562]

Is it sad that I recognised the world of warcraft song (anduins theme). Also great videos, keep it up.

[@allies7184]

Well done! Great Music, strong voice, beautiful pictures, good evidence; what more can I say?

[@GeekZoneMT]

I'm humbled, thank you my friend!

[@philmitchellboxing8661]

Great idea for a video when most middle earth lore is done to death already

[@Chris-bv4ko]

The long history of the hobbits makes it even more surprising that Sauron was unfamiliar with them.

[@broganrwells]

This is so interesting I never put together th er that Sméagol came from a clan that lived away from the shire! This is an awesome channel thank you

[@jurjenzuidland8799]

As a kid i always thought that the hobbits were a mixed breed of dwarves, elfs and a bit of human. Why? Well they are small like dwarfs and have point ears like elfs.

[@worldtraveler930]

OK, now I can't stop thinking 🤔 about some Numoren saddling up a fuzzy face Dwarf Lass!! 🍻🤪

[@sayagarapan1686]

I favor the Fallohides for they are crunchy and good with ketchup.

[@GeekZoneMT]

😂

[@o_LL_o]

I think I have a chair made out of Fallohide.

[@wyzemann]

So, only Men have “offshoot” branches? Are there any Elven or Dwarven offshoots besides Orcs? Perhaps Eru Illuvatar wanted more variety the 2nd time around 😂🤣. Then again, the Maiar are lesser versions of the Valar, so perhaps this is a running theme throughout the various races of Arda🤷🏾‍♂️.

[@GeekZoneMT]

Well there are the Petty Dwarves that could be considered to be a branch :)

[@davis.fourohfour]

There are indeed many branches of men, some almost like Neanderthals.

[@o_LL_o]

Middle Earth was really made for men. Eru only really imagined 2 races; dwarves, Ents, Trolls, Orcs and dragons all being second thoughts; and with Morgoths influence, the Elves were kind of broken. Still, there were Teleri, Noldor, Vanyar and different Sindar types. Elves seems to really like "or's" and "ar's" and "fin's" and gol's". In the end, it was just men.

[@simonmorris4226]

Ok men have Druedain and hobbits. Dwarves have Petty Dwarves. Elves have lots of offshoots from the original people who awoke by cuivienen. It’s no different than pygmies who although smaller than most are still men!

[@michaelfisher7170]

I've read in some theorizing articles that Men were Iluvatar's "favorite", though I find the idea of a supreme being harboring favoritism somewhat distasteful. lol. But I think it just plays into the differing fates of the races. Elves were meant to be part and parcel of the world, bound to it from the moment of their creation until..who knows what end? Dwarves were given special dispensation by Iluvatar, they weren't part of his plan (although a God knows everthing, ahem) but he granted them life anyway. Men, though...were given his gift (death) and with it the opportunity to go outside the circles of the world...to what end? Who can say? So that men should find among them a great variation doesn't really come as a surprise....while Elves are basically unalterable, Men can fit into all the interesting niches provided by Arda....I mean, I'm totally guessing, I'm not Tolkien but damn, I love his work and his world!

[@tsuchan]

I'd love to have an idea of the sources where the information for this video was gleaned. It would help to contextualise it in the development of Tolkien's thinking and to understand what's canon, wider sources of legendarium, and which letters.

[@Janettemay64]

Lovely thank you,, I understand the fact of the leaders on the other side of the Brandywine but I've never quite understood the ruling of Bilbo's side of the shire. The Baggins residence seems to be a cut above the others they had an elected Mayor Sam's Gaffer was the Gardner before Sam and all were respectful of Bilbo, Bilbo was quite comfortable before he went off adventuring and both Sam and The Gaffer called him sir, What was Bilbo's place in the Shire?

[@thestraightroad305]

Well done. Well done!! So enjoyable.

[@SamCork1]

Hobbits come from all the shortest kids at your school growing up and mating.

[@donweatherwax9318]

I wish this were twice as long and went into even more of Tolkien's fractal detail. Regardless, an outstanding, completionist job.

[@jonhstonk7998]

I love listening to Middle Earths story

[@billbaxter3800]

Excellent info. Thank you.

[@dadasaurusrex]

Yes!!! Thanks for the fix!!!

[@GeekZoneMT]

You're welcome mate, enjoy the video! :)

[@His_Name_Was_King]

Always wondered if the hobbits were a failed experiment of Morgoth with humans and elves.

[@brinstarmedia1411]

Future video idea: The Origin of Second Breakfast

[@simonmorris4226]

Don’t forget elevenses!

[@KetanVatsalya]

Marcho and Blanco. Tolkien sure phoned that in :)

[@JasonSmith-we5ls]

Great video man

[@TheClintb17]

An amazing story, thank you, cheers CB Australia 🇦🇺

[@scottfitzpatrick1939]

What an incredible collection of art

[@CloseToTheEdge89]

Excellent. Thank you.

[@marcushendriksen8415]

Hobbits coming to Bree be like: pls hel, it's scary out there 🥺

[@Zantides]

Thought my PC were broken at the first upload, thanks for the fix

[@GeekZoneMT]

Yeah it should be better now, though I have no idea what scrambled the audio before :S

[@Zantides]

@@GeekZoneMT Here the video froze as well, not just the audio.

[@Enerdhil]

@@GeekZoneMT I think You Tube has something against Tolkien You Tubers. This was the fourth video that got blocked the first time. The Broken Sword had it happen twice in a week. I guess Tolkien is too conservative for them. Hope you guys never ever get demonitized.

[@Zantides]

@@Enerdhil The video didn't get blocked, it broke and he had to re upload it.

[@Enerdhil]

@@Zantides Yeah, I saw Karl's explanation somewhere else. He probably did that because of my response. I still am distrustful of You Tube. They forced History of the Ages to change their name to The Broken Sword and start all over. James and Jake are slowly building up subs on their new channel and redoing all their old videos, even the ones that were fine. It is very close to demonitizing them without actually demonitizing them. Yes, they violated You Tube policy, but why did You Tube wait till they got over 200,000 subs to do it? It is like a building inspector telling the contractor that the building passed inspection until it is built, then telling them the foundation isn't set right and has to be redone. Marxist-run organizations have to control speech to fit their narrative. Free speech is their mortal enemy.

[@alexharris6481]

Fantastic Video!

[@jamiegregg9211]

cool video Robert enjoyed it

[@ryanrussell4158]

Very interesting. Thanks.

[@EmperorCaligula_EC]

Such beautiful paintings. :)

[@melangellatc1718]

Good job!

[@phoule76]

"...by checking out our Stoor."

[@413medina]

So so sooooo good

[@R0geR0sv0ld]

I hold a unique (I think) head canon: As there are 3 Children of Illuvatar and 3 clans of Hobbits, I believe (with no evidence) that Hobbits are those of the 3 peoples who lived under the influence of Tom Bombadil. Once Bombadil roamed all of Middle Earth and in his joyous travels, he interacted with anyone he met. I believe that (since Tolkien loved non-mechanized agriculture) some people were drawn to Bombadil and his inherent connection to nature. Over the millennia of the time before the Sun and the First Age, those people came together, settled, and built a life they wanted, and gradually drifted into their own race. Their small stature and tough nature are due to Bombadil's influence. Some elves, dwarves, and men all came to treasure this life and they became Hobbits. How could Bombadil do this? I further assert Bombadil is an incarnation of the Song, the opposite of Ungoliant. He has a persistent emanation of the Song's radiance. It is this innate connection to the SOng the changes the Men, Dwarves, and Elves into Hobbits, not a choice on Bombadil's part.

[@PanSaltzCaballeratos]

"Hey, you are a Hobbit huh? So who are you and where do you come from??" " I come from under the hill, and under the hills and over the hills my paths led. And through the air. I am he that walks unseen. I am the clue-finder, the web-cutter, the stinging fly. I was chosen for the lucky number. I am he that buries his friends alive and drowns them and draws them alive again from water. I came from the end of a bag, but no bag went over me." "Now I have more questions than before..."

[@alexucon]

1:05 tol KEEN.

[@pokemontas8025]

I like how you make your voice sound all old timey

[@Edward-nf4nc]

The Battle of Fornost happened in 1975 T.A. The office of Thain was established in 1979 T.A.

[@wagon9082]

Good video

[@shanenolan8252]

Thanks

[@ofantastycekameralnie1600]

GeekZone the best

[@christophermaccool8029]

I like the Falohides they sounds like Peter Pan and Robin Hood.

[@hydraunworthy9924]

Maybe they have orginated from the valley of Anduin or Mirkwood. Right?

[@GeekZoneMT]

Yeah the northern vales of the Anduin

[@Enerdhil]

Near Gladden Fields.

[@tiggergolah]

What was your source(s) for this presentation? I recognize some of the information from the appendices of the LOTR, but some of it seems new to me.

[@thevulgarone4]

I don't think I have ever heard anyone address the fact that the elves should have known that them dying in battle would immediately return them to Valinor, hence saving them a trip by land and sea.to return home.I mean common, it was their spirits that were immortal, not their bodies. I would love to hear Karl again but anyone wanting to research and do a presentation on the matter. Thank you.

[@Dlstufguy2]

If one were to put things into real world perspective than it almost seems as if the Hobbits are a case of island dwarfism. Small offshoot of man that was somewhere else with a harsher living condition.

[@chamilton35]

I remember in the Silmarillion that Morgoth was first aware of Men, the same as he was with Elves, and he tried to corrupt them the same way but because of the War with the Noldor, he didn't have much time. I always wondered whether Hobbits where the beginning of men's corruption by Morgoth, the way Orcs are of Elves, but he was never able to complete the corrupting process, whether because they are mortal or because of the war and Morgoth was cast down at the end of the First Age. It would explain why Hobbits where savage in the beginning but where able to recover, and its a nice parallel of Evil defeating itself (in trying to corrupt a race to evil, Morgoth created a race that is extremely difficult to corrupt). I made this comparison because of the way Orcs are short compared to Elves, the way Hobbits are short compared to Men, they seem to possess natural sneaking abilities like Orcs do, and it would even explain their aversion to Elves.

[@simonmorris4226]

Savage in this context means primitive, not violent.

[@chamilton35]

@@simonmorris4226 fair enough, but still kind of applies to Orcs who are very primative and nomadic without a power behind them, organising them

[@jayoyo1001]

I think if Morgoth knew about the hobbits he would corrupted them and turn into not one but many Gollums instead of Smeagal being the only one.

[@worldtraveler930]

I find myself agreeing with another viewer who put forth at hobbits are blending of men and dwarves therefore being wholly unknown to the creatures of evil.

[@MrKratoscastro]

Is like Tolkien knew about the real life hobbits (small humans) discovered by scientists.

[@christophermaccool8029]

do you think Beorn knew about the Stoor Hobbits who lived in the Gladden Fields since he lives in the same area?

[@D0N0CIDE]

This could have made an interesting show

[@chrismaccool9097]

When The Stoors lived near the River Bruinen were they river land hobbits meaning all their activities took place on the river?

[@jamiepratt9247]

I've heard of rare groups of people who have learned and cultivated the laungages of middle earth. Where can one who is interested in learning something of these laungages find resources?

[@o_LL_o]

Google

[@wifi-toaster]

"Tengwar" elven writing is maybe fun to check

[@chrismaccool9097]

Who was The Thain that Shire elected? And I just thought of a idea of a book to write about different Hobbit Characters who are a part of these three clans from different generations going through these events and reveal what they went through.

[@christophermaccool8029]

I wonder if Smeagol aka Gollum had anything to do with why the Stoor community in the Gladden Fields dying out?

[@cliffwoodbury5319]

my qurstion is what happened to the Hobbits after the war of the ring!!

[@GeekZoneMT]

I'll try and make a video on that sometimes! :)

[@Enerdhil]

Check the Appendix at the end of RotK. Tolkien has a breakdown of what happens in the Shire.

[@o_LL_o]

they started getting tossed around in bars for $$$.

[@venkelos6996]

It's sort of weird that, with the fall of Arnor, none of its secrets, such as the Hobbits, and the Shire, fell into the hands of the Witch King. One would think hus evil spies would get wind of it, or some map/account of thecKing's acceptance would exist, yet even beings as learned and traveled as the WK and Sauron were unaware; even Gollum hadn't known, and some of his descendants even lived there. It almost makes me wonder why Gandalf knew? Sure, he was familiar with the region, and Hobbits, but not before his arrival in the Third Age, and then he had things to do. What brought him there, where evil seemed absent, especially when, in some ways, evil was exactly what the Gray Wizard was looking for? And then Bree knew, as well as several communities of dwarves, yet...and I'll stop now; I do get that the Enemy simply didn't know.

[@sleven8013]

Could the Stoor communities in the Gladen Fields disappearing be a consequence of Smeagol finding the One Ring?

[@EveryoneElseIsWeirdImNormal]

I wonder if their were dwarf hobbits as in hobbits that had dwarfism what would other races call them quarterlings?

[@GeekZoneMT]

Yeah, and hobbits would call them halflings 😂

[@Enerdhil]

And a whole family could reside in a doghouse.🐶🐕

[@alphonse97]

What's the title of the background music?

[@Bitchslapper316]

I wonder how they got their pointy ears and why they're called halflings

[@chrismaccool9097]

Why not talk about The Great Battle With The Goblins And how Bilbo ancestor slice off the king of Goblins head off and even the great Winters of The Shire?

[@chrismaccool9097]

We're Marcho and Blanco the same age or was on of them older?

[@sampetrie340]

I have a question for a future video: Why do hobbits have surnames? If you assume that in our world the custom came about to avoid confusion when towns became large enough to have multiple people with the same name….. why did it come about in tiny villages with only one Samwise, Bilbo, etc?

[@kristiankepley5944]

Probably for the same reason. Or for actions their ancestors did Like Sam the wise. Son of Sam the wise. Samwise

[@chrismaccool9097]

Why not talk about the fell winter and the white wolves?

[@stevenboyd3756]

So, the Hobbits originally came from the east?

[@GeekZoneMT]

Sortof, they lived in the Upper Vales of the Anduin, which was between the Misty Mountains and Mirkwood

[@Enerdhil]

I think all of Iluvatar's children come from the East and made their way west.

[@Elia-fn8jv]

I always think that hobbit were a product of Men and Dwarwes

[@christophermaccool8029]

I am actually planning to write a Lord of the Rings story a kid's book about the history of the Hobbits where random Hobbits from every generation tell their story about Hobbit history and when I say random Hobbits I mean children of course from eight to ten to fourteen to sixteen years old and I am going to send it to Tolkien Estate and I hope they like it and publish it

[@christophermaccool8029]

if Isildur destroyed the Ring when he had the chance would all the hobbits still be living in the land of Rhovianin? also when all three tribes lived in the east did the wood elves of Mirkwood or should I say Greenwood would be welcoming to them as much as the men and dwarves were?

[@EveryoneElseIsWeirdImNormal]

12:15 this is possibly the single most unrealistic thing in Tolkien electing a ruler without several civil wars

[@Enerdhil]

Usually a tyrant emerges when all the qualified good, peaceful people choose not to govern.....

[@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447]

what happened to the previous guy? did this channel change ownership or something?

[@o_LL_o]

Funny how the same people all preferred different climes, spread out so far and met every other race smack in the middle of Middle Earth, but were such head-scratchers come LOTR time. You'd think that hobbits finding the Ring would be the FIRST on the guess list. So much for the Wise.

[@sleven8013]

Where did they come from and where did they go?

[@itismikebeezybaby]

I may be Hobbit myself

[@wewenang5167]

so the new amazon show with black character gonna be harfoot i guess cuz tolkien said they are dark complexion.