Where Does Otherworld Scale?

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[@Paragonscales]

You finally dropped the otherworld and Afterlife 💯🐐

[@MiddleTrack]

🙏

[@Paragonscales]

@@MiddleTrack I'm dropping my own Dragonball scale soon and a xenoverse one

[@MiddleTrack]

@@Paragonscales Bet I can't wait

[@Midlletrack-Top-Fan]

@@MiddleTrack me 2

[@Bootyslapper56]

@Midlletrack-Top-Fan me 3 but sadly mines gonna take like a month cuz if i add dbh and xenoverse and gt its gonna be long af cuz its in extra extra high ball

[@skillzgod5557]

I'm an old friend of you & cosmic btw you've started uploading I see I agree with Dragonball being outerversal these scans look legit

[@MiddleTrack]

I'm glad that you agree

[@eeeeeeeee8]

W 👑

[@ssflickgaming3384]

Congratulations on 100+ subs

[@MiddleTrack]

Thank you bro I appreciate it ❤

[@davonbenson4361]

Things like gravity and physical are not necessities to the Afterlife. King Yemma gave Goku permission to keep his physical. And, immaterial souls can be resurrected in the Otherworld, which means that it’s still a transcendental realm.

[@injuringtk3346]

W video

[@MiddleTrack]

🙏

[@G_Scaling]

Finally Dbz haters can shut up now

[@MiddleTrack]

Ong

[@Fruadlantbastard]

That's impossible, you both know we are always going to get jumped.

[@Midlletrack-Top-Fan]

GoatTrack 🐐🤩💯😎 The Other world is At least Outerversal yep a low balled version But in reality should be Higher like High Outerversal Baseline Boundless Construct

[@gomolemomutshweni9977]

True 😎😎😂Afterlife >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>fiction no concepts of diff

[@al-baraqah.24]

Low multiversal

[@Midlletrack-Top-Fan]

@@al-baraqah.24 nope 🙅

[@communewithhim6632]

you the man bro I saw a debate with drip sauce and I think ktr or somebody idk I forgot his name and his biggest claim was something that was happening on earth and saying just cause the keep track of time it doesn't make them outer which is funny because they ARE the afterlife HAVE to know when the residents arrive,anyway great vid man I'm a fan keep going we here for you

[@MiddleTrack]

❤

[@slapperfr]

W

[@MiddleTrack]

Thanks bro

[@davonbenson4361]

You could probably scale the Living Realm to Outerversal. Isn’t Dr Slump a part of Dragonball’s Earth?

[@MiddleTrack]

Yeah

[@tonymickyson8129]

Middlegoat

[@MiddleTrack]

❤

[@eeeeeeeee8]

Next video : mortal realm scale

[@Midlletrack-Top-Fan]

Yep 😼😼

[@Rhetorical_Ife]

high hyper - low outer

[@Seamed546]

​@@Rhetorical_Ife proof?

[@cozm_lol]

time for some debunking… in the image at :50 it is very hard to see but at the bottom it states how goku managed to achieve super saiyan 3 was training without having to worry about time. which isn’t saying that time doesn’t exist in the otherworld. he’s saying that he doesn’t have to worry about time because he exist in spiritual form and therefore wont age. it’s the same way how an immortal character would say the have all the time in the world because they don’t have to worry about aging. this also debunks the idea that there is “no concept of time in the otherworld.” at 0:52 he states that the otherworld is metaphysicAL. Metaphysics is the study or idea of transcending time and space. however, metaphysicAL refers to anything that is beyond a physical or HUMAN perceivable state. something like a ghost in there real world could be classified as metaphysical. therefore that statement has noting to due with otherworld transcending time and space. once again at 0:56 he uses the term metaphysical which i have already debunked. at 1:00 the picture on screen uses the term “transcendental” which by definition is “relating to a SPIRITUAL and non physical realm.” so it has nothing to do with transcending all dimensions. if the otherworldly supposedly transcends time in space, goku being able to move in it gives him at MINIMUM inaccessible speed, and this is CELL SAGA. doesn’t that sound a little crazy to you considering that when goku goes to help the other z fighters he doesn’t just appear there in 0 times. i mean if he really does have inaccessible speed he should have done that right? according to the logic used in the video, if the concept of time does not exist in the otherworld and goku has inaccessible speed, then that mean goku travels from point A to point B in 0 time therefore meaning that when goku leaves the otherworld he would no time would have passed outside the otherworld. let’s say goku somehow has inaccessible speed, imagine ALL the plot holes because of that one feat. so to sum it up. time does exist in the otherworld, you just can’t age in there because it is a spiritual realm, the otherworld does not transcend infinite dimensions it just houses spirits and the non-physical, and goku can’t have moved inside the otherworld if time didn’t exist or else he would have inaccessible speed which creates MAJOR plot holes. also if i’m not mistaken to be outerversal you must transcend time AND space which space transcendence is stated nowhere in the video this wasn’t meant to show any real hate to middletrack, mainly to debunk flaws and inconsistencies in his analysis. also, if you find this hard to understand Surfbone’s “Does Goku ACTUALLY SOLO???” video does a much better job pf explaining and adding more key points to support this argument, but i personally think mine does just fine but u should still watch his vid. bu-bye

[@MiddleTrack]

Okay so this debunk didn't debunk anything so I'll make this quick, metaphysical is interchangeable with metaphysics that's why the definition for "metaphysical is relating to metaphysics", and the goku scan is backed up by the Super Exiting Guide which literally tells you that other doesn't have the concept of time, so no that was a terrible debunk.

[@cozm_lol]

@@MiddleTrack i did a fine bit of research and i can’t find a definitions on metaphysics that relate closely enough for one real definition of metaphysics. i also rarely use the super exiting guide as actually evidence for feats because it contradicts other databooks and is pretty inconsistent.

[@Fruadlantbastard]

@@cozm_lol "Transcendental and the noun transcendence Convey three different but related meanings, all of them still derives from the word's literal meaning (from Latin) of climbing or going beyond," it refers to spiritual but it still should be treated as beyond, Inaccessible Sounds ridiculous ik but the "Goku being able to move in it gives him at MINIMUM inaccessible speed, and this is CELL SAGA." there is counter to that, in the Namek arc it was noted by Vegeta that when your power level increases your speed ofc increases which is consistent, why mention this? It was stated that Frieza in second form can destroy the Universe and can tank 4D stuff via the genkidama absorbing energy from the universe, getting technical if Strength arguably equals speed than 4D Strength = a lane of possible Infinite speed?? that might sound retarded but Kid Buu also has done an Infinite speed feat in lore via travelling infinite distances in finite time, most guidebooks still verify that the Afterlife has no concept of time it's just a weird jump in speed scaling. Also the Plot holes don't mean anything, Dragon ball always had Plot induced stupidity, the protags are nerfed to have a more grounded and non cosmic feel to the fights, any inconsistent anti feat should be ignored by that context alone just from Plot induced stupidity. Think of Modern Sonic, bro sticks into the Planetary ranges in the advance games and than in 06 bro fights a Multiversal entity, simply put what your saying comes from a case of Argument from Belief and purposely using/denying the other terms of Transcendental. I respect the attempt tho, atleast you and a few others actually read the stuff and gave their own conclusion.

[@cozm_lol]

@@Fruadlantbastard if an object in otherworld were to be able to move it’s an outerversal object now?

[@cozm_lol]

@@Fruadlantbastard your username says everything i need to know abt u

[@ElectronX386]

w

[@MiddleTrack]

Thanks bro

[@suhailsalem9996]

Question what about the gravity cage in heroes it’s gravity is stated to be several hundred times that of earth does the same gravity logic for otherworld imply here as well

[@MiddleTrack]

Nah, since it was a scan that I forgot to show in this video that says that otherworld has it's own laws

[@suhailsalem9996]

@@MiddleTrack yeah but my main question is how are characters who are apparently outer or higher struggling with gravity not even 1000x of earth

[@MiddleTrack]

@@suhailsalem9996 the plot, Akira him said himself said that the plot trumps logic in db

[@supesisfodder7427]

@@suhailsalem9996it’s not 1000x earth

[@suhailsalem9996]

@@supesisfodder7427 yeah that’s why I said not even

[@BeerusLord]

Oh shit Damn i was saying shit like since goku destroyed the macronsim hes universal didnt know heaven transcends over dimensionality And the macronism has no concept of time Bruh goku was unbounded from the start of z Bc he was being able to move in otherworlds heavens which transcends over dimensionality Dimensionality means your unbounded by the concepts of space and time So goku at the FRICKIN START OF Z WAS OUTER THIS MAN BROKEN AS FUCK Can you scale mortal realm pls

[@MiddleTrack]

I did a collab going over the living world here's the link kzbin.info/www/bejne/oXecqoeIbdmmpdE

[@KrillinhoesCompMarvelandDC]

W+Next level.

[@MiddleTrack]

Thanks bro

[@anshugamingyt8340]

Somehow i readed Otherworld Outerversal lol

[@MiddleTrack]

Lol

[@SunWukong139]

laziest dragon ball scale ngl

[@MiddleTrack]

it's for people to easily understand, no one wants an overly complicated explanation, especially when it can be simply explained in a few minutes.

[@davonbenson4361]

@@MiddleTrack. Lol, you were even nice by lowballing Otherworld to Outerversal.

[@Am-fp7pn]

doesnt scale anywhere

[@MiddleTrack]

And why is that

[@Am-fp7pn]

@@MiddleTrack spiritual realm

[@Hey_its_me_gokuuu]

those who don't know the power of gohan beast: 🤓"cap gohan is low multiversal"🤓

[@FURYSaiyan]

😂😂"db after 5arc 2 movie pass by db caps at low multi db verse only low multi 4d infinite that’s it they have no feat no visually feat ian see goku destroy a planet how he planet" Literally me… 🥳🥳so u done being a Moron or what Lmao

[@issacclavelo6395]

​never scale again@@FURYSaiyan

[@issacclavelo6395]

​@@FURYSaiyankzbin.info/www/bejne/mnOXiXulht-ai9ksi=8ZZVQS6p4D1WVXz8

[@Hey_its_me_gokuuu]

@@FURYSaiyan bro,broly and gogeta destroyed reality like nothing in the movie, and yes, the movie is cannon, plus that. goku in ultra instinct created an entire galaxy and judged the void where the void is practically nothing goku easily passes outerversal☠️

[@FURYSaiyan]

@@issacclavelo6395 u gotta read it in my narrative bro 😭😭

[@al-baraqah.24]

People needs to realize other world is outer but goku is not

[@MiddleTrack]

That literally makes no sense when he can destroy otherworld

[@Midlletrack-Top-Fan]

Bruh 💀💀💀

[@Bootyslapper56]

Wat

[@Fruadlantbastard]

Some Anti-Goku scaling stuff I'm going to stop. Transcendental yes refers to a Spiritual realm yet encyclopedia's I quote state this: "In philosophy, the adjective transcendental and the noun transcendence convey three different but related meanings, all of them derived from the word's literal meaning (from Latin) of climbing or *going beyond,"* It's objective transcending, Do I need to explain why encyclopedias are valid? Dragon ball characters having Inaccessible speed does not ruin the story at all as shown time and time again that Dragon ball has Plot Induced Stupidity - "refer to events in a story that contradict a character's normal capabilities for the purpose of the plot." why do you think Anti feats occurs and Goku not going to other planets with only sheer physical speed don't occur? the whole lore of Dragon ball always wanted to tell a grounded story for our Protagonists for the sake of enjoyability and not make them as stronger or fast as they are realistically just from objective feats, yet again using fallacious logic to downplay an Inaccesible speed of Goku is obvious degeneracy without looking in the other stuff, lower ends still validate an Infinite speed Goku with Complex Multi scaling, Low Multi with finite speeds are objective downplay to even Z Goku tbh.

[@MiddleTrack]

Interesting