Where Does This Weird Hatch Go?

[@GenericSweetener]

I think the people deserve to know how easily a curator fits through that space!

[@klauskervin2586]

How many curator's widths is the height of the crawl space? We need answers.

[@kman-mi7su]

I was thinking the same.

[@brucetheloon]

While the crawl space is probably 1.5 curator's high inside, that access port looks about 3/4 of a curator.

[@randybb]

Nope, a curator can fit easily - but some proof would be nice. Maybe in the next video?

[@150DT]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 I agree

[@serpentelevate9119]

Without Ryan crawling into this void, i don't believe that it's possible.

[@Murgoh]

In addition to weakening the armor, drilling multiple large holes through that thick steel plate would be a lot of unnecessary work when you can simply raise the deck to accommodate the plumbing. This is often done in houses too when building a bathroom in a space not originally meant to be one, especially if the floor is concrete.

[@robertbeaty4909]

I've been in a lot of Baltimore City basements with raised heads because the homes were built before indoor plumbing.

[@harveywallbanger3123]

Gross. Not the raised heads, the fact that you mentioned Baltimore.

[@PsRohrbaugh]

I have 204 days at sea as a paying cruise ship passenger. Many older cruise ships have an almost identical concept for en suite bathrooms, although the height increase is not as high. Cruise ships use vacuum sewage (no idea what battleships use) so you don't need a lot of heigh. But they're still designed so the pipes are raised above the deck.

[@alpham777]

Yep it's mostly due to the staterooms actually being built as a modular unit on land then hoisted up to the vessel as a complete unit minus the furniture.

[@edwardrhoades6957]

The majority of warships use seawater flushing.

[@PsRohrbaugh]

@@edwardrhoades6957 my point was that on the drain side, waste is drawn down by vacuum. This means you don't have issues with the ship rocking - but it also means your pipes don't need to be sloped like they are in a house. So your sewage pipes can be completely flat relative to the deck. That said, when you enter a stateroom, the bathroom has a raised floor above the stateroom floor (requiring you to step up) and the sewage pipes are between the true floor and the raised floor.

[@JoshuaTootell]

Both ships I served on used vacuum flushing. One was WWII era, the other Vietnam ​@@edwardrhoades6957

[@garygreen7552]

I was on an LST and the enlisted berthing spaces and heads were on the first deck, one level below the main deck. The was no armor plate to be concerned about. Another observation: when New Jersey and my LST, Stone County, were built waste water from heads and galleys went directly out the sides of the ship into the ocean. Yes, that included toilets. Now days waste water needs to be treated before being sent into the ocean. I don't know what the regulations were when New Jersey was last in active service. We also dumped mess deck garbage and other trash overboard. The sea gulls loved it. Unneeded or broken equipment was often "deep sixed," thrown overboard into the ocean. It's better now for the health of the seas, but it is a lot more difficult. I really like your videos. It is also a reminder that battleships are in a completely different world from LST's. Thank you.

[@PatrolingEden]

I recall at some point Ryan mentioned that holding tanks were installed on the ship during one of it's re-commissioning's due to changes in environmental regulations about dumping untreated waste overboard.

[@Underwaystudios]

Ryan, could you show us the paint locker on the New Jersey? I was Taney crew and our paint locker was located one deck below the crews head. Very small space in the bow two decks below the main. I'm sure you are familiar with the space. One guy worked in there getting paint for everyone even underway. It was covered in spilled paint all over the deck and bulkheads. We used to hang out and hide out in there and the Bos'n hole too so that the BM1 couldn't find us especially on cold days at sea!

[@BillSteinhauser]

Instead of plumber/repair men having to go through the small access holes for every repair, the bathroom/head could have removable floor sections to give easier access to plumbing spaces. (has anybody checked for these, even looking from below in crawl space) These panels may be covered over by tile in some cases, so not as easy to see/lift unless tile seams are lines up with metal floor lift sections. Even with lift panels, the height of raised floor still needs enough space to crawl/scoot around and work for repair, since access panels are not in spaces near plumbing; but just in more open floor area near center of room. Maybe the liftable floor panels were not built into 1940s ship design, but make sense in most places with raised floor. Still good to have the oval openings for air ventilation, so leaks are more easily noticed and subfloor space stays mostly dry.

[@grast5150]

Nah that is not easy access by navy standards. I have yet to see in my career an access panel which greater than those void space holes. Remember, 19 year old men are rather skinny and fit into many of these spaces. It is not able easy of access as someone is always small enough to get in there.

[@Anon-1870]

God, I can't wait to see your happiness face when you get into the dry dock with the New Jersey. I love your videos and dedication Ryan, love from Argentina.

[@Arp1757]

You will find a similar arrangement in electronic spaces such as CÍC where there are many consoles and electronic racks with the wiring running underneath a subfloor.

[@phillyphakename1255]

My school's original computer lab had a subfloor. Ethernet, power, etc. Nowadays they'll just run conduit to a wall mounted box, but it's cool to see what they did back then.

[@alwaysbearded1]

The heads on the paddlewheel ferry the Eureka drain into the top of the paddlewheel box so everything got macerated and churned right into the Bay. No access space required. She could carry thousands of commuters so I imagine the heads were well used.

[@wheels-n-tires1846]

Thats honestly a brilliant solution. Not only keeping the integrity of the armor deck, but saving untold hours cutting/machining all the holes while building!! This is a feature Id never heard of before, and one of the coolest. (Weird i know...a battleship, with a ton of weaponry and amazing details, and the head design is what I find fascinating LOL)

[@veganguy74]

My basement bathroom is raised up off the slab for a similar reason, pipes underneath! Except I can't crawl under there.

[@ntomenicgiorgo3598]

144 views and a hundred likes already. I don't think I've missed a video since you started and this is new to me. Great job guys.

[@Eledore]

PSD Prinses Juliana. A Car ferry with a stupid step. The issue was; That there was no elevator between the passenger deck and the car deck. This would make the car deck inaccessible for wheelchair users. A small oversight, so they extended the existing elevator down. But the steel main car deck was 28mm (1.1") and they where not allowed to penetrate that to making a elevator pit. Ended up making the elevator exit, higher. And raised the entire corridor up. This gave a lengthily ramp on one side of the corridor and two steps on the other side. Boat, 0. Grandma forgetting on "that" particular exit of the car deck has some steps, 4.

[@FairlyUnknown]

I've done pipe work in some constricted areas before, but the idea of having to crawl into that space to fix a pipe looks to be on another level of cramped and does not seem fun!

[@nos9784]

Also, leaking sewege you have to lie down in... it's not a choice i'd make if i had to do the maintenance, i guess. (of course, you do what you have to, and showers and washing machines exist.)

[@TheTransporter007]

I imagine it is actually a very serious problem if a deck floods with funny smelling brown water after a shell hits. 💩

[@leftyo9589]

sometimes people align valves wrong too, which has been known to fill compartments up to the knee knockers with CHT. not even kidding. found it once in the middle of the night on sounding&security watch after a week of the brass, and everyone else wondering where the smell was coming from. it was deep, and it stunk.

[@Kenionatus]

IDK. I'd definitely roll around in shit without hesitation if it's helpful in a life or death situation.

[@trekkie1701c]

Actually, simple problem with what I wonder might be a complex solution. I know you've answered before on what would happen in the exceedingly unlikely event that they reactivated New Jersey, and you've gone over how the chances of that happening are basically zero. But hypothetically let's say they did. Except now you have a submarine named New Jersey. What do they do to the battleship? Like, the name would change, obviously, but what's involved in doing that? How do they keep track of ships whose names have changed from a paperwork perspective? I know some ships at least get radio station codes. Does New Jersey have one? Does *that* get changed? Etc. Like, it seems like you'd have to do more to rename a ship than simply slapping on a new bit of paint and calling it a day. ...And actually even that, how many places would they have to change the name of the ship, on the ship?

[@BattleshipNewJersey]

We've answered that one too! kzbin.info/www/bejne/nH7cmWema7tpeLc

[@JoshuaTootell]

Fun fact: the Coast Guard has done this multiple times lately. My last ship, the USCGC Munro was due to be decommissioned before the replacement USCGC Munro, so they changed the OLD ship to USCGC Douglas Munro.

[@grast5150]

Hey those void spaces are also great places to sleep during field days. So, keep the voids is my opinion.

[@benjaminshropshire2900]

Are there any spaced on the ship that are *not* man accessible?

[@Stealth86651]

Man, this channel reminds me of when my friend moved into a new house/neighborhood but still went to the same school. Every day he'd come up with some new discovery about the house or the area around it.

[@Michael_Brock]

Thumbnail "entry into the void" Thought this was Philadelphia experiment IRL, either an active stealth field, radar 100%, ir and visual 80% or a gravity manipulation chamber allowing ship to fly 100m above ground (check failed yama gravity or not proven). Preferably both.

[@patrickvolk7031]

From Captain Obvious.... The berths aren't armored, because when the BB is in action, the crew spaces are unoccupied. Most of the crew will be in armored parts of the ship under battle stations.

[@jacksons1010]

In WW2 a large portion of the crew would be outside the armored box at battle stations. Everyone manning an AA battery, gun director and the bridge staff were all exposed.

[@jlivewell]

Not obvious at all…. a brilliant deduction my dear Watson.

[@tomhenry897]

It’s a weight issue Armor everything be too heavy

[@patrickvolk7031]

@@tomhenry897 You can't put the armor too high, or the ship will be unstable and want to heel over. They have the 16-inch armor with 2.5" of Special Treatment Steel (STS, which is structural and tougher than your normal steel) as a splinter layer under it. Took a while for them to realize the conning tower wasn't really necessary in battle, the sailing bridge was better (nobody was aiming for the conning tower). Only the vitals are armored, guns, ammo, engine, and enough buoyancy to stay afloat.

[@stradplayer90]

When I was on the USS Salem I do not recall there being a step. Which considering it is a bigger all gun ship I thought was surprising.

[@nos9784]

Being a cruiser, maybe less armor is the difference? (just a guess, i don't know too much about it)

[@soonerfrac4611]

“The navy is very selective of the sailors who get into it.” I gotta laugh at this. I know it’s true and all, but my grandfather attempted to enlist in the Navy in the 50’s only to be turned down because he allegedly had flat feet. So he walked down the way to the Army recruiting office and they said nope, your feet are fine. 27yrs later after attending OCS he retired as an O-6. A man who lived by the sea and love it but was turned down for naval service so went to the Army.

[@Tyraeous]

I was just in a hotel that was converted from an office space - all the guestroom bathrooms were raised. Likely the floor is a concrete slab and rather than cutting into it they built a platform just in the bathrooms to run the drains.

[@chiefsilverback]

Many offices are built with raised floors to enable easy access to wiring. If this hotel was recently converted then they may have removed those raised floors but not gone to the expense of ‘lowering’ the bathrooms…

[@mryeti1887]

Same here. I was in a building that was a typical office building with concrete floors/ceilings so they raised the bathroom floors.

[@garywayne6083]

The bathroom for the captain on the Constellation was built into an overhang so his bathwater and toilet water just drops into the sea

[@JimmyShot]

Little known fact, the first depth charges dropped from that toilet.

[@kimraudenbush615]

​@@JimmyShot🤦🤣

[@ranekeisenkralle8265]

I know I've probably played too much Subnautica, but when i saw that thumbnail my mind instantly said: "Warning: Entering ecological dead zone. Adding report to databank." Now the only question remains: Do I want to know whether the void's residents lurk behind that hatch? Or do i not?

[@Norbrookc]

There's more than a few sci-fi tropes about venturing into the void. Could just label it "Abandon Hope, all ye who enter here."

[@ranekeisenkralle8265]

@@Norbrookc yes. But as I said, that is the one my mind jumped to.

[@MK0272]

Problem: The staff keeps losing their tape measures. Solution: Use a curator.

[@SteamCrane]

3:00 - I'm sure the pipefitters look forward to crawling into that nasty space!

[@coolsnake1134]

In the US at least for residential, standard drain sizes would be toilet, 3-in or 4 in, showers and tubs are usually a 2-in, kitchen sinks and laundry is usually one and a half inch and lavatory sinks are usually one and a quarter inch

[@coolsnake1134]

And floor drains are mostly 2-in or one and a half inch, and then small low volume drains like water softener discharges or air conditioner condensation drains are usually 1 in or 3/4 in

[@zackrentz8228]

I was watching down periscope and the scene with Buckman stocking the galley got me wondering about New Jersey’s galley. Could we get a tour and some discussion on a typical food store and how the “normal” stores changed over the years

[@zaphodbeetlepox6627]

Lol... the NAVY doesn't have to make ships ADA accessible... yet.

[@jacksons1010]

What’s with the “LOL”? Perhaps you’re unaware that the ADA was advanced in large part by concern for disabled vets? Maybe you don’t know people who came back from Vietnam, Iraq or Afghanistan missing a limb or two, but if you did you would know better. 🤬

[@dirtdevil70]

Wha?? The crayon eating detachment doesnt count?

[@shinjiikari1021]

I recently went on to the NJ's sister ship, USS Iowa and now I understand something new that I haven't thought about

[@Vinemaple]

That posed photo at 1:42 is priceless! But I wanted to see and hear about that door, the one on the thumbnail, labeled "INTO THE VOID." I think the personalization of spaces on the ship is one of my favorite things that you feature on the channel!

[@BattleshipNewJersey]

"Into the void" was added for the thumbnail, it's not actually on the door.

[@Vinemaple]

@@BattleshipNewJersey Awww! It's the kind of humor one would expect to see, though, lol

[@billterlesky3909]

Question How would someone assigned to a particular job that they didn’t like transfer out of that job? I know I wouldn’t like being a plumber but wouldn’t mind being a cook.

[@ghost307]

You ask respectfully, then do what they tell you to do.

[@oatlord]

You fill out what is called a "code red", then you await your squadmates to come get you and help you to your new job.

[@leftyo9589]

its called cross rating. where one who already has a rate, decides to go for another.

[@doubledrats235]

When you are working M&R one day and they ask you if you are claustrophobic when you get your assignment.

[@johnheaney3022]

One of the Iowas would be very useful right now. Which one would you nominate ? And why?

[@Crawlerz2468]

So this is the Poop Deck I've been hearing so much about?

[@scottfw7169]

🤔 Was just looking at a video about the 'narrowboat' canal boats in UK and when thumbnail for this came up my brain read it as "Where does the weed hatch go?"

[@theswiller85]

You’re like the battleship version of Norm Abram, love it.

[@OliverHinz]

I guess I watched too many videos if I start knowing answers at the beginning of videos ;)

[@neubauerjoseph]

It reminds me of my time on uss Nimitz they have similar things as well. The explanation help me understand why it was that way.

[@Colinpark]

Not the heads, but I seen this on Canadian Icebreakers under the bridge to accommodate cable runs.

[@nicholaiowreyowrey6383]

If this is the reason those decks are raised is there plumbing in the 02 levels where the deck is raised for example in the 2m shop, or are those for different reasons.

[@steverogers6131]

6" thick armor floor. Dang

[@Adiscretefirm]

I can picture the most senior man on the repair detail handing tools and advice through that hatch to the 18 year old junior mate actually sent into the void

[@johnw2026]

I'd hate to be the guy that has to both fix and clean up after the sewage pipe gets busted in two by a torpedo strike! 😅

[@divarachelenvy]

I wouldn't want t drill through 6 inch armour as well..

[@ThemightyEnterprise]

Is there a confirmed move date for the ship? I plan on seeing it

[@KennethStone]

Simple answer to a simple solution to a complex problem

[@mike28003]

I remember steps on the kitty hawk for got what compartments the went to

[@HammondOfTexas0]

I wasn't expecting to see PVC pipes in there based on the age.

[@Visionspestsolutions2019]

hull technicians need access to do PMS and inspect piping.

[@dehaney4021]

I think GenericSweetener is on to something here! Come on Ryan make a video from the crawlspace.

[@johnyarbrough502]

"Access to the void space under the head is through this curator size hatch."

[@dennisfariello4852]

Great job as always, Ryan! Never been on a ship with any kind of armor.

[@Tomcatntbird]

I'm a US Navy veteran, 3 deployments to the persian gulf. Ryan, please quit calling it a bathroom, there arent any bathtubs on a navy ship.

[@garywagner2466]

Not every viewer is a sailor. Why is that hard to understand?

[@simonjackson7269]

It’s correctly called “The Head” not bathroom!!! Better known as a toilet!!

[@garywagner2466]

Not all viewers are sailors. How can you not grasp that?

[@joshuahudson2170]

Fun fact; Iowa had to be retrofitted to be wheelchair accessible in part, and has a bathtub.

[@robertf3479]

I suspect that most of the wheelchair access was done after she became a museum ship. The TUB was added to accommodate President Roosevelt when he had to make a transatlantic crossing. The spiffy and spanking new battleship USS Iowa was selected for the job and certain modifications were made to her for Roosevelt who couldn't stand in a shower and was often wheelchair bound. Maybe the Iowa curator / staff can tell us if any wheelchair access changes were made for that trip. When I saw the tub shortly after she had recommissioned in the 1980s, some guys added a little yellow rubber ducky to the edge of the tub as a joke.

[@alexmarshall4331]

Cor! That was boring👉🚮👈

[@DavidJones-me7yr]

I sure the hell couldn't get in that little space! It would also be very difficult to tighten anything with a pipe wrench in there while laying on your stomach!😢

[@petermichaelgreen]

You lay on your back not on your stomach.

[@McQueenMcflurry]

Hello Ryan, I have been a subscriber for a year now and I am enjoying every video you guys and always stay tuned for the next video, and I am wanting to ask are the Iowa's still capable of competing or having a fair battle today especially with escorting and fighting surface ships, supersonic jet fighters and nuclear subs with newer missiles and technological warfare being the norm in the battlefield?

[@furthernerd]

into the void- nine inch nails. good song

[@billkallas1762]

Were there holding tanks for these heads, when the ship was designed? Didn't they used to just dump EVERYTHING, overboard, even in port? (in the 1940's) I've been on two Battleships. The Iowa, and the Alabama.

[@oldscratch3535]

Probably no sewage holding tanks. As of now, you can dump sewage when you're 3 miles offshore. It really doesn't hurt anything. The fish love your turds. When I worked on a tugboat we could throw bags of trash overboard once out far enough. It was mostly paper plates and food. That may not be legal now.

[@bebo4807]

Gee I wonder why the world’s oceans are open air dumps and cesspools….

[@ghost307]

They did have holding tanks. Otherwise, any place where a lot of ships anchored for a while would get REALLY ripe. Once further out at sea they emptied the tanks and fed the fishes.

[@RealJeep]

USS Salinan in the 70's. Yes! We discharged EVERYTHING overboard. USS Yosemite in the 80's. Yes, there were always sea pickles floating about.

[@billkallas1762]

@@bebo4807 In the 50's or 60's they had to use holding tanks, while in port. Think of all the life in the sea, taking dumps.

[@geneziemba9159]

The North Carolina doesn’t have raised floors in the head, but I’ll have to examine how they handle penetration of the armored 2nd deck

[@edwardbenke2793]

So . . . the step warns you the deck inside is higher than the one you are leaving. duh . . .

[@russellstyles5381]

I Agree that the opening is too small. This solution is not uncommon in bathrooms added to the basement of a house with a slab foundation, or above a finished space.

[@KyriosMirage]

I don't remember that on Massachusetts, but it's also been ten years since I last saw her.

[@GABABQ2756]

1MC, “Duty Shipfitter to the forward head”. Duty Shipfitter, “f’n crawl space”. Think about it, you are talking about two void spaces.😂

[@leftyo9589]

HT!

[@alexkuhn5078]

loose bowels sink ships

[@michaelimbesi2314]

Talk about the tomahawks next, since they’re in the news with the strikes in Yemen

[@davejones67]

Go in there Ryan!

[@bruceday6799]

Too short. New knowedge to me though. Stay warm!

[@gowdsake7103]

In the UK we did not have steps That is really really clever

[@bigsarge2085]

✌️✌️

[@thomasdalton1508]

The navy may be selective about crew, but it looks like they are extremely selective about plumbers. An average sized man would struggle to get through that hatch, by the looks of it.

[@andrewr2650]

The opening is bigger than you realize, what your looking at is a hatch with a screen in it. The opening is about an inch larger in every direction. Also from personal experience it’s surprising what a person can fit through if they are young and in relatively good shape. Working in an old theatre there were a bunch of very tight openings, so the technical director had developed a “test”. if you could fit through a wire coat hanger bent into a circle, you would fit through any space in the theatre. I saw people as large as 6’2” and 190lb fit through that coat hanger. The trick, is to put one arm up towards your head and hold your other arm against your body to put your shoulders at an angle. As long as they got past their shoulders, they basically always fit. It took a fairly good sized belly before that became a problem.

[@jota1221]

Having never served in any military service I have to ask this probably silly question , are the sailors allowed to use the heads whenever they need to or do they have to wait until their watch is over . Obviously they can’t when the ship is in battle but what about other times .

[@JoshuaTootell]

If you are on watch, you have to find someone to cover for you.

[@jimwjohnq.public]

Heads. They are called heads.

[@garywagner2466]

He uses both terms so viewers who are not sailors can understand. Why is that hard to grasp?

[@FIREBRAND38]

Very insightful.

[@krtwood]

Horizontal drain lines in a building have a slope. Clearly you can't just do that on a ship that pitches and rolls, and currently has her bow 10 ft higher than normal. So there's got to be more going on under that floor than just pipes. We need to send in a curator!

[@tonyking9235]

CAN YOU ANSWER THIS . COULD YOU FIND ENEY CREW TO DAY TO REACTIVATE THAT SHIP TO DAY . I DONT THINK SO . WHAT DO YOU SAY .

[@jimcat68]

This is something that my GenZ kids would really appreciate. The whole "into the void" and mysterious hatch is just the sort of thing that young people thinking of "liminal spaces" could relate to. My son who was born more than 65 years after the ship was launched got a real kick out of this video.

[@phillipdavis3316]

Great video. Clearly, they didn't want offshore taco bell runs to compromise the integrity of the armor.

[@randyogburn2498]

Commodes have either a 3 or 4 inch drain with 4" being the modern standard. I think a shower would be a 1 1/2 or maybe a 2 inch line.

[@RealJeep]

That's not a hatch it's a watertight door. Hatches go through a deck, doors go through bulkheads. Geeze, get it right.

[@robertf3479]

Try convincing Marines that doors go through bulkheads. To Uncle Sam's Misguided Children ALL doors through bulkheads are "Hatches." That's the way they are taught in Boot Camp and Officer Training other than the Academy (I think.) My last ship was an LHA with between 1,800 and 2,000 Marines aboard. Gads! I really missed my destroyer.

[@leftyo9589]

trying to teach them both a hatch, and a door would confuse them, so everything is just a hatch.@@robertf3479

[@kirkhamandy]

Great video, but hang on there a minute! At 1:05 , you stated that the weights of battleships are limited by treaties? How am I only just learning this?!! Have you made a video about this?

[@Jackhammer909]

Yes, Washington Naval Treaty and then later London Naval Treaties dis have tonnage limits for battleships. Initially 35,000 long tons, then raised to 45,000.

[@kirkhamandy]

@@Jackhammer909 Thanks for the reply. Intestered to know what brought it about and why.

[@robertf3479]

@@Jackhammer909 The London Naval Treaty initially limited any new battleships to 35k tons and main battery guns to 14". The later Washington Treaty included "escalator clauses" for both gun caliber and ship maximum displacement. Invoking the clause when it was discovered how big Germany's Bismarck and Tirpitz were going to be allowed the US to "up gun" the North Carolina class to 16"/45 caliber main guns, replacing the intended 14". Armor was beefed up a little, but the ship was already up against the 35k ton limit so she couldn't be armored to what was thought necessary to protect against 16." Personally, I think she would have stood up well against German 15" and Japanese 16" weapons. The South Dakota class was designed under the 35,000 ton limit but included 16"/45 main armament from the start and was designed with armor thought sufficient to protect against 16" fire. The Iowa class was designed after the displacement escalator was invoked, allowing ships up to 45,000 tons.

[@kimraudenbush615]

​@@kirkhamandy >Washington Naval Treaty: Aug 17, 1923 to Dec 31, 1936. Expired and not renewed. >London Naval Treaty: Mar 25, 1936 to Sept 1, 1939. Terminated by outbreak of World War 2.

[@TheJustinhcase]

With all those beds and associated facilities for so many people. Have you thought of using a section of the ship to help the homeless? A little Naval-like discipline might even help them, you could put them to work maintaining your ship.

[@SportyMabamba]

Everything not nailed down would be at risk of theft

[@leftyo9589]

good way to destroy a historical object!

[@asbestosfibers1325]

That might be the worst idea I've read in this comment section. Why don't you invite them into your house instead.

[@TheJustinhcase]

@@asbestosfibers1325 It is a "Battleship" Built out of the hardest steel available, oxygen is its only true enemy. It was designed to withstand high explosives being thrown at it. I bet you would find it hard to do any significant damage to the actual structure with a heavy hammer. She was built to serve, and I feel that serving the needy would be an honorable retirement. Proper management and discipline would have to be maintained much like when she was full of naval ratings, they are a pretty rowdy bunch when not overseen by an officer. You never know, maybe some of the people whom you help might actually be worth lifting up instead of leaving to rot. @asbestosfibers1325

[@zeedub8560]

@@TheJustinhcase You've never actually dealt with a homeless person, have you? I don't mean the mostly mythical ones who are temporarily down on their luck. I mean the real ones, drug addicts and screaming schizophrenics, or ones who are so "defiant-oppositional" that they will not follow any instruction without threat of physical force. I don't know that the solution to them is, but putting them on a historic museum ship is definitely NOT the answer.

[@allensanders5535]

why is your title about hatches and you talk about shitters.

[@SomeRandomHuman717]

I think they were referring to the access "hatch" that allows underfloor access to the 2nd deck heads that are above the deck armor.

[@allensanders5535]

well that not what's in the picture and in the navy a hatch is a opening that serves as a pass through for personnel. @@SomeRandomHuman717

[@jort93z]

same reason why some showers in homes are raised I guess. Putting a big hole in the floor for piping sucks.