WHERE DOES YOUR GOOD GEAR COME FROM!!?? Raid: Shadow Legends

[@MtgJedi]

Please vote on the community pole for this also!

[@Dharin.]

What you said about dungeons is correct once you hit late mid game. Before that, it's all about dungeon. Even into the start of late game you still need to farm dungeons as the lack of good gear from any source means you need to keep farming. f2p players will always need to farm dungeons period, as they have no other means of getting gear outside winning the odd event and FW/DT mats. Big spenders don't farm, they buy sets from the shop. They pick up relentless gear almost by accident because they are Whaling out for a champ or something similar, a soul maybe. Once you get into late game, then you start to weed out your gear anyway, and only keep the very best pieces in the very best sets, which is why your account looks as it does. The average players account does not. The lesser sets are still in play for many, but will get whittled down as they pick up better pieces in those top end sets. I absolutely agree that dungeon sets need to be upgraded, and even if they don't put the old forge sets in there permanently, they could have 3x specials on forge sets in each of the dungeons and the special 9 piece set in spider once a week. so in every month there is one dungeon + spider with a forge set special and they can rotate them so every dungeon gets a different special set every time to rotate the other regular sets you get from the dungeons. They could very easily do tournaments and events specifically designed to get sets like Instinct to, but they won't, they won't do anything as it still works for them financially.

[@MtgJedi]

Thank you so much for this thorough comment!

[@mikevik100]

Im lvl 60 and have been getting gear from forge pass and forging, dont use anything almost from dungeons, I admit I buy the forge pass. Almost all my gear is Speed, perception, Slayer and Bolster.

[@Dharin.]

@@mikevik100 For spenders, the forge pass is a very good source of gear sets. I also buy some forge passes, but only Slayer and occasionally Instinct, simply because I can't gear all my nukers in Savage, Slayer, Merciless. It's not the best but it's still better than broken sets to reach the stats I'm aiming for. I have all the Bolster I need so I no longer buy that pass. I was aiming that comment more on the f2p and very low spenders that may just buy the monthly gem pass, which are a very large portion of the community.

[@MegaUnchangable]

Really like the new lighting! Would love to see a video going over rolling. When to hold on to a piece and when to cut your losses. What good rolls look like to place on someone, and when it could be an offset piece. I know others have done this but it would be nice to see something fresh.

[@nomadicgamer9466]

How complicated and in-depth this topic seems to be, it should be a college course or something.

[@Lord_Mangoat]

I look at events like the 3x life steel as an event for early/mid game accounts that can benefit from the set, which in turn gives me time to pass on doing the event for farming other things I've put on hold, such as minotaur. I love putting retaliation on a nuker. Shield set is ok too, if you lack bolster.

[@justina2353]

Our best gear comes from faction wars, Doom tower and hydra….. Probably also Cursed City and Forge Pass. We get some good gear from events and stuff but not as much as the rest

[@llBigSteph]

I'm about a year in. My strongest gear on my account is Relentless and has been for a long time. I have about 7 or 8 champs in relentless with well over 220+ speed where needed and sufficient stats to do what they need to do. After that i think it's perception then speed. Was able to get Arbiter to 340 i speed gear. I have decent slayer, and working on Lethal.

[@davidwade9431]

Just got Scyl today my account is full with Relentless gear trying to get my speed up for my legos but keep getting rubbish gear

[@jasonsaulters6027]

My best gear is from hydra, Dark Fae, faction wars (perception) and dragon speed gear. I was just able to drop the divine speed set from my Arbiter and get 20 more speed.

[@somefrankenstein7925]

if the life, defense, and offence were 20-25% per set it would make them more useful in niche situations, most sets that have either health, atk or def have equal stat bonus to the focus sets

[@MtgJedi]

Oh man I totally agree. I’ve said the same thing too in multiple video lol.

[@Jordan-zl3ch]

My best gear comes from the forge pass, hands down. Simply due to all the charms and resources those provide. I think having a rotating say weekly x3 for (insert set here) would be great early and mid game players can farm accuracy and lifesteal gear they need and the mid and late game could farm reflex and speed etc. I also think Jedi's increased Rarity events is a FANTASTIC idea.

[@ingolf82]

doom tower and the forge. I very rarely use dungeon gear anywhere anymore. my Athel still has lifesteal on, but she is the only one I think, maybe my Rathalos too. the rest have bolster and such. come to think of it, my dutchess might still have shield gear, I should switch to bolster. Hell Hades did a video on this today, so you can look that up

[@johnrivera5293]

MtgJedi: Where does good gear come from? Me: your wallet.

[@pathfinderGM]

I would love a pirate or treasure hunter champion that has a passive that removes the lowest 10% from the gear rolls. The 5 star rare gear. So take the total 100% removes the worst 10% and that become the new gear pool. I can see a pirate Lego that has 'parley' that is a two turn ally unkillable and reflect damage buff. And an aoe that steals buffs and maybe turn meter(if no buffs were taken) instead of a traditional aura give him the treasure hunter passive that makes gear found in rewards better by removing the worst 10% of the RNG pool.

[@rrbhaunoch3084]

for me it is everywhere...Forge is important (forge pass helps), but all dungeons, Sintranos, Hydra are all super important too to me still in endgame

[@paper_lions]

I think this is correct. The best sets may be from forging materials from DT or forge passes or sintranos, but good gear can come from anywhere...because every piece of gear has the same odds of having good primary or substats and good rolls.

[@ldiez10z]

was watching this video while playing and im on a fairly new to the game on day 108 on the login screen and i realized i need to craft 1 legenday weapon to complete a clan quest got it in first try.... 6 star legendary C-DMG - SPD - ACC and ATK and it triple rolled into speed when i took it to 12 :D

[@madman4649]

DoF $$$, Forge Pass $$$, win Tourney's $$$. New Dungeon or whatever new area, New currency "Anvil's". What do "Anvil's" do, they allow you to merge sets say 2 to 4 sets. But only Dungeon sets. If you could merge say Life with Curing with Defense and Regen all into one set and then roll the new set up it might now be worth farming Dungeons. Of course you could only smelt the same Rank Rarity and Type piece and to not let Plarium RNG screw you over and make a new game mode worthless from the start, only same Main Stats can be smelted together. i.e. Legendary 6* Gloves with Main Stat HP% could be merged together, so you now get HP% gloves with RNG chosen substats and the bonuses from whatever sets where merged.

[@faruk_gencel]

Lightining matters. No matter how good content are, I feel like connecting more if it is more like a chat

[@michaelbrown7463]

I think you're definitely right most of my gear is usually from the forge or doomtower materials

[@s8nlx661]

Dude you nailed it. Who cares about the gear type for the most part but mythical drop rate percentage would be the way to go in dungeons

[@dalton400]

Why do I never have enough of the medium forge material from faction wars? Whether it be perception or resilience, I have 5k large but only 1k medium. I only forge 5-6 star pieces but it would make sense to have more of the medium than the large

[@TheAEKaBeer]

Most of my good gear is perception so the forge, I have some good immortal from CB. Nearly all gear I farm from dungeons is pretty bad, forcing me to level mediocre gear for certain builds for the last 3 years

[@wrenneinzbern]

My gear is trash I've been stuck at the mid normal levels for months so I've switched focus to making 6 stars until I can finally reliably farm at least up to stage 20. Even then getting the right set with decent stats is almost impossible. 3x events for a certain set is still not enough.

[@MtgJedi]

Part of all of this is just farming a lot of dungeons to get a good base of 6* gear.

[@aizatramlan2991]

My best gear now come from forge, doom tower and cursed city. I only run dungeon during fusion just to get some regen, provoke and curse set. But 95% of the artifacts i got from dungeon is silver worth. I hate the points increase for dungeon divers, its a waste of energy and boring.

[@MtgJedi]

The more I hear this the more I think improving the dungeons is so needed! How do you think we can do that?

[@aizatramlan2991]

@@MtgJedi include some of the set from forge to dungeon hard stages and improve the drop rate, the more I raid the more 5 star rare piece I got even on stage 10 hard.

[@yes3858]

Never cared about lighting but does look good now

[@nedidas971]

well this changed the way ive been looking at getting gear. got a bit to think about now, thank you.

[@MtgJedi]

I’m so glad! I think we need to spread this thought process

[@Omnimon152]

I think my best gear is from forging, with charms for specific sub stats, like speed. Also now we can have mythical charms from sintranos, so we can make super strong gear. (lethal, perception...) Dungeons hard 10 gives crap gear most of the time, like 5 stars blues... It's rare to get mythical pieces even on the hardest difficulty. Also I hate the flat hecking stats on gear.

[@MtgJedi]

This is a drastically undervalued part of the forge!

[@Dom92.raidsl]

Hi, you mentioned feedback, so I want to give you some I agree with you on dungeons, they give shitty tons of gear. But I still think forging is still the way to go, whether its pieces from faction wara, doom tower, or forge pass And please be carefull on encouraging people to win tournament for gears. You are quite a spender so you will get more chances to win tournaments, hence more chances on 6* gears to roll or reroll. That wont be the case for low spender and F2Ps out there, which winning tourney is not the luxury they will have a lot, because energy and shards will be used on more impactful events like fusion or titan event There are problems with winning gears from tourney : 1. A lot of tourney only give 6* for 1st place. Most of the time, the resource needed for 1st place is just too ridiculous 2. Mythical 6* is usually only given to 1st and 2nd place on CHAMPION CHASE (sometimes champion training, but it will be on the special one, which usually is also a whalefest), and those are won by having loads of shards, which is very rare for f2p or low spender to won 3. Dungeon related tourney only gives 6*epic, which is not very good either 4. All of the gear rewarded are RELENTLESS, which is honestly not a very good set either these days with all the new sets released by plarium Lastly, if you really want good gears, dont neglect on Hydra and Cursed city (yes, sintranos). Those places gives a healthy amount of 6* pieces weekly and monthly, and some of my best pieces actually are from those places. Hope this helps

[@jeffm9340]

Basically it's Forge > everything else for me right now. It takes quite a lot of time in Classic Arena though.

[@paper_lions]

I don't necessarily disagree with this general idea that as you progress in the game, you use less and less gear from dungeons, BUT...I've also heard every late game player talk about "stats over sets", suggesting there is a disconnect here. I think what happens later in the game is that the only gear you want to roll is from good sets, meaning that the only "good gear" you wind up getting is from sets you are rolling.

[@yes3858]

At my level, 58, tournament and event gear blow, except for the card flipping one

[@yes3858]

Event 1st place tournament is rarely 6 star gold, and usually a whale contest, lol

[@sjaakbakker9944]

Deck of fate (you know how lucky I am!), faction wars, dungeons, hydra and some doom tower

[@xlythen]

What the early Jedi... ;-P My good gear comes from 3x Lifesteal events, ofc.

[@MtgJedi]

lol don’t say that. People will read your comment and believe you.

[@xlythen]

@@MtgJedi What, people read comments!? 😀

[@AsAs-pr5ws]

Yeah i also lack rarity charms al the timee , Go JEDIII

[@MtgJedi]

Thanks! Yes we need so many more rarity charms!

[@taemeister9302]

I must have the worst luck. Been playibg seriously for 6 months and not a single quad roll speed gear or a godly nuker gear

[@WOLFOFOZ74]

speed gear is not what it was. I need more than one thing from my gear. perception, righteous, slayer, stone skin,protection, ect all give us speed and other stuff to build on. at the state of the game other than a few key speed leads you just have to have more from your gear to remove some of the offset of a end game player. But yes farming gear is only for events like fusions anymore. I would make almost all sets from dungeons 2pc and up the rank and mythical rates. Maybe hard 10 could be something like no rare and 6 star only with double the rates of myth. Currently I run around 2500 energy on a fusion event and after filter I may have 5 or so pieces to try and roll and if im lucky I may keep one of them after rolling it, still not normally an outrageous but good enough piece.

[@30m3]

My best gear is all Relentless. Hard won all.

[@MtgJedi]

Thanks for sharing! I thought this was true.

[@bluebuda8170]

U da man

[@masterwu1162]

Its all about the forge for me Remember kids the forge is your friend

[@akrumvatum1627]

My best gear comes from card events, forge passes, cursed city and tournaments. In this order I suppose.

[@MtgJedi]

Oh you’d put cursed city above tournaments? I need to think on that lol

[@akrumvatum1627]

@@MtgJedi I guess it's just because while I have quite a few champions that need Relentless, now I'm at the point where I find more value in Merciless and Supersonic gear.

[@testos2701]

Good show, interesting points, but we must remember, the game is designed to give the house the winning numbers, so talking about fairness, balances, and all that is not relevant. They will always give you scraps so that you play day and night. I tell you all something there are over 2000 locations where they can counsel you for gambling addiction, please get there before you sell your dog so that you can buy that new shinny armor! Armor, champs, and everything else in these type games are money makers, hence you will grind your arse off trying to get a piece that might help you develop that toon, which will make you feel like you have accomplished something, but really?😅🤣😂

[@Happytremereinc]

HH just did a video about this today.

[@RobertMartin-x1q]

My gear comes from forgetting pass and end game like faction wars and cursed city

[@rhettbrandt1081]

I am also obsessed with the number 11, my birthday is 11/11. What's the reason you are also obsessed with 11? I have been wondering that every time I hear you mention it

[@MtgJedi]

Wow so lucky! Mine is one part from a song from while I was in college and second part the number 11 shows up in my life so often I can’t help but notice and appreciate it.

[@MHGFTW]

We don't need more paid gear passes. The current forge passes are great, don't get me wrong. The biggest thing right now is that the HARD dungeons needs the lootpool reworked. When I go into ice golem for a cursed set for hydra, I don't want tons of HP, Atk, Def, etc. set pieces. I understand that there's always sets that you want more than others, but it shouldn't be completely worthless. No one running Hard dungeons will even bother rolling pieces from these sets. The effects are so far outclassed. Merciless 1 piece effect is 10% Atk. Why would I ever bother getting 2 pieces of attack together?! Forge allows me to forge straight up upgrades of these sets as well. People from my clan are saying stuff like "Don't bother making a hard ... team. Just farm normal 20 for events. You don't need any of the gear sets anywhere.". That's a huge problem. If there's an ice golem tournament, I should want to farm the hardest difficulty I can. It's fine if stage 20 normal gives more points. The gear you get should offset you wanting to farm stage 20 normal if you can do stage 10 hard.

[@MtgJedi]

Based on this do you think a lot of players want more speed 20 teams and or solo/duo 20 teams?

[@MHGFTW]

@@MtgJedi I think anyone at that level can figure out a fast team or solo/duo team for stage 20 normal. With double battles now being in all the loot dungeons it's also less important. Anyone who cares already has a team like that. Anyone who doesn't care that much just starts a bunch of multibattles in the background.

[@originalguitarreplicas2263]

I can see you better this way

[@mikejohnson9343]

you didnt mention gear from clan boss.

[@vladimirduran237]

1.59% chance of a 6 star mythical drop from level 10 dungeons.

[@Ugly_Tsarevich]

I saw odd one gaming and skratch sharing this info about 6 months ago. I was already on the fence on whether I should keep pushing normal dungeons and hard stages and so on. Skratch basically said that end game players don’t farm dungeons but rather DT and more recently sintranos. These sets are basically upgraded versions of the OG sets. Another rework would be a nice spin to them imo.

[@Ugly_Tsarevich]

Btw I hope you gave AOT another shot lol

[@eng.ahmedabosamra9036]

i just hope the forge pass in free path they give us more materials

[@pinooftheborealvalley3245]

MTG Why don't you do a weekly Tab for 5 legendary champion's and 5epic And the community has to decide for two of those champions to be Buff or totally Redesigned

[@MtgJedi]

Hmm l like that but I don’t know if everyone would

[@AsAs-pr5ws]

Make forge pass ftp!!!! Its very expesnive for some players and it makes huge gap between ftp and spenders.

[@MtgJedi]

They already have a free side?

[@AsAs-pr5ws]

@@MtgJedi yeah but rewards are not the same, not even close one quality :D. I cant do nothing with rare and epic forge materials. Even on fw forge materials where i craft only 5-6 gear a lot of gear does not having matching substats, forging 4-5 star gear doesnt do anything

[@DustinShertzer]

Saph found the drop rate in the code but it is very low

[@pez6905]

My advice is before you get arbiter, dont touch any dungeons unless its a mission, just use forge gear and make sure you do FW and use your silver keys even if its low level mats.

[@MtgJedi]

Wow I’m gonna need to think on this.

[@dr.indianajones9558]

Worst advice ever kid. How I could speed tune my CB team without speed gear.3x speed dragon is cheat code.Could make demytha 316 speed for clan boss because of it.dragon should be all the time 3x speed tho

[@ingolf82]

you need speed gear early on.. you need lifesteal early on, this is bad advice

[@MegaUnchangable]

I’m pretty sure the free to play winners followed this thought process. I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure they said this when hell hades interviewed them

[@yes3858]

Who does gear dungeons without a mission/ event ever? Edit: if you only mean missions, it's awful advice. The arena requirements for arbiter take forever, you need to do dungeons for fusions, tournaments, events, etc. Also as said above, speed and lifesteal are very helpful. Especially for low level faction wars team

[@Happytremereinc]

Mythic gear drop rates = hellhades raid stages tool

[@ChristopherJomenAngkolToper]

Most of my gears come from the forge.

[@MtgJedi]

Thanks for this! Do you think you don’t win much gear?

[@Omnimon152]

@@MtgJedi In the dungeons hard 10, we still get crap gear with flat stats. Not even rewarded for farming the hardest dungeons.

[@ChristopherJomenAngkolToper]

@@MtgJedi only a few from events and tournaments as I am a free to play.

[@SaltyFlatEarth]

I win gear all the time. 99.9% are absolutely trash. My best gear comes from the forge, hands down. There's too many sets in the dungeons and way too many TRASH sets that are never used. They need to get rid of at least 3 sets per dungeon and no, we don't need more new sets, we have too many as is.

[@ro4710]

All your good dungeon farmable gear with speed is from curing set 🤣 you could build the fastest vogoth in the game

[@shinyphat3105]

Plarium just needs to go through and cut down the crap sets. We have far too many sets now that have been power crept by other parts of the game. HP DEF and ATK sets are a prime example. There's just a powercrept set that's straight up better so you almost always instantly sell it just because of the set. Avenging set... who uses that crap after the "rework". Go through, make each dungeon drop maybe 3-5 sets so we can get the SETS we want and farm them more efficiently. Straight up remove the crap sets or move them all into the campaign. We don't want Lifesteal, ATK, DEF, HP, Curing, ect... No one uses that crap, and if they do they're unaware or off-set pieces. Add Shogun to a freaking tourney so we can have a reason to farm it. Spider is almost not worth doing anymore because of the 9 piece sets you want to get a 1 piece set buff when building a champ because it's so impactful. Add a small chance to either get forge mats or just a piece of the gear from spider. Make a new dungeon that just farms forge set mats. I'd rather dungeons drop forge materials and let us forge savage instead of getting almost guaranteed flat stats on bottom row and being a sell... There's so many easy changes they could do to help the players, but I get it, they want people to buy more energy and gamble it than just let us get the stuff.

[@wreckitnick5464]

On Hard mode: lessen the probability of getting RARE. If there's a x2/x3 chance of getting a gear set, increase the probability of getting higher rank/rarity gear too. Come on, what's the purpose of the word "Raid" on Raid: Shadow Legends? It's not exciting to "raid" anymore.

[@pestyoverlord]

Hades is right about the gear thing but he's so washed he didn't noticed dungeons got phased out after lethal gear dropped. It's a non issue. Only someone as out of touch as him would whine about wanting to waste energy in a dungeon when you could farm sand devil rerolls with that same energy.

[@JakeTereshchenko]

your face looks a bit red

[@Sagern234]

Whats this good gear you speak of?...

[@UA_Bylmeteys]

wow 1st

[@MtgJedi]

Heck yes! #1