Where is the Kawasaki Versys X 500?

[@charlesdriscoll3487]

I had Versys 300X, and I agree completely with you. The only reason I can think of is that Kawasaki doesn't want to steal buyers from the KLR 650.

[@bigred8752]

Exactly

[@fabianobenedetti6692]

And even the versys 650...

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

Yes, I thought of that when making the video. If they had two versions of the Vesys 500 for a similar price to the KLR, no one would buy a KLR. However, they might sell so many Versys 500s that they won't care.

[@KrypteiaXi]

@@fabianobenedetti6692 The Versys 500 can do all the KLR and the Versys 650 can, it would render both obsolete.

[@humanbeing1675]

The KLR 650 is not available anymore in Europe... since 2004.

[@dracer35]

As someone who has ridden the Trans America Trail on my Versys-X 300 including the shadow of the the rockies trail, I know these bikes are capable of a great time on an adventure. Really my biggest complaint was that when I was climbing mountain passes and trails in Colorado at 12,000 ft of elevation the little 300 engine could have used a little more power. It still made it but I was dropping gears and really ripping along in that 8,000 to 12,000 rpm range to keep it in the power and clutching up to get the front wheel up ledges and over boulders when necessary. To its credit, it did everything I asked of the machine and with over 10,000 miles of abuse it still runs like new. I love my Versys but that little bit extra torque without the extra weight of a bigger bike would be nice.

[@originalkontrol]

100% AGREED. I was surprised to not see a 400 of this bike ever happen. An argument I saw was perhaps they didn’t want to spend the money on a chassis re-design. Ok… But then, the Eliminator… Cruisers are more popular than ADV bikes? Uh… A new even bigger motor, and still no Versys? Fail. I love and own a Kawi, but a small adv is on my hit list, sadly empty of Kawasaki entry.

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

Maybe this year they'll announce something.

[@originalkontrol]

@@DifferentSpokesTV one can hope!

[@sportmuaythaiv1045]

New 2024 CFMoto 450 MT will make Kawasaki pay. I own three Kawasakis, 150 KLX, 400 Ninja and 650 Ninja.

[@ZeroXSEED]

Versys 500 will eat both KLR and Versys 650 at the same time But since they seems to decide to stick with 450cc anyway, it's not unthinkable that they retire both and replaced them with one Versys 450 model. Most likely not cheap, but you can count to get what you pay for. The 300cc engine is already long in the tooth. Like, even the Versys 250 of Asia is more advanced, using same engine as Ninja 250 4th generation (the one currently in North America) OTOH there's actual monkey paw involved. Kawasaki isn't stranger to putting smaller engine in an overweight frame, which happened with the Er-6F and Er-4F (also known as 2nd generation Kawasaki Ninja) so you might just get a cursed Versys 450 based on 650 frame.

[@cocchiam]

Unfortunately, here in Italy, Kawasaki has discontinued the Versys 300. However, if the 450 model is released, I'll get it, no questions asked.

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

Seems there is a lot of demand for this bike.

[@MumanRides]

Great video. I own a 2022 Versys X-300 and I totally agree. This was my first bike and after two years and 13,000 miles I’m still in love. So many things Kawasaki got right on this bike. Price, weight, seat height, engine, suspension, etc. It was best in class. An X-500 with a few upgrades would be best in class once again and I would buy it yesterday. It would be a great first bike and an even better last bike. C’mon Kawasaki…. make it happen.

[@Dr.MountainND]

Amen Brother!! I love my Versys-X 300 but completely agree with your take here

[@veiledallegory]

If Kawasaki comes out with a 450 Versys X in the sub 400 lb category I’m buying one!!!

[@robertlindstrom540]

As age is creeping up on me the thought to downsize has begun. The last two decades I`ve had cruisers, before that it was sportbikes and at the beginning my bikes were naked or standard seventies and eighties japanese middle sized bikes. A 300 to 500cc ADV would propably be just the ticket, and a Versys 500 could easily top my list. Of the ones that can be bought now a Honda would be most propable, there are good used ones out there, and I could afford a new one also if I wanted one enough. Here in a wintry Sweden the season is short, my bike is only used for half of the year so there is no point in paying too much for the ride. At the same time the highway speeds are quite high so my bike has to have the power to cope in all kinds of traffic here and that takes out the smallest options. A Versys 500 could be what I want so hopefully we don´t have to wait long for one to appear. Good video, thanks.

[@CarysCorner]

If Kawasaki updated the Versys to a 451, kept the curb weight under 400 pounds, kept the laced wheels, and actually brought it stateside, I would be in line to pre-order. Hopefully you’re right about them keeping their plans a secret. Thinking maybe this is why Honda is updating their CB500X to the NX500.

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

Yes, lots of riders are hoping for this bike this year so let's hope we get it.

[@Rickmac22]

I would buy a Versys 500 in a New York minute and ride it until the day I die! I’d buy an extra one for my son to ride with me and to spread my ashes over the trails we loved!!! And I ain’t even that old yet!

[@chrispekel5709]

What if it's overpriced or not that good?

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

I do think that a Versys 500 could be many rides' unicorn and the only bike some people would need.

[@Rickmac22]

If they keep the weight under 400 lbs, and put the right features on it (integrated bags, good suspension, traction control, etc,) it could own the class! Also, Kawasaki is usually priced right... Save the ZX-4RR...!

[@robertgoerss]

Agree with your video. If Kawasaki 300 was upgraded to the 451 and upgraded to tubeless tires or had cadt wheels plus a few key suspension upgrades I think Kawasaki would have a winner.

[@wickedleeloopy2115]

It all seems a bit too late now. The competition allready did it.

[@FernitoAM]

Great video. Interesting you didn't mention the cfmoto 450mt which is exactly the bike you are asking for in the video. Sub 200kg, twin cylinder, good power and torque, seems good on/off road. I think the video was calling for that mention. I also would like to see this versys 500. Great job, hope family is good

[@Theoriginalbubbafett]

But Chinese! There are zero long term CFMoto tests on KZbin.

[@FernitoAM]

@@Theoriginalbubbafett agree but the new ktm 490 doesnt even exist, neither the versys 500 and they are both on the video. There are plenty of good reviews for the cf moto 800mt

[@cuvip2007]

I've been eyeing them, but unfortunately they are unvailable where I am :(.

[@trd4d]

There are 10k tests. They are quality with a good warranty.

[@rickybobby6760]

Junk.

[@snupermoto723]

It always amazes me how some manufacturers simply ignore the trends, and the potential customers.... Mostly talking about you Suzuki

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Examples? People talk about Suzuki not updating things for decades. Kawasaki has powerplants and chassis that are quite old, and they never seem to get the same criticism as Suzuki.

[@benfox8571]

DR650 ftw

[@seauryakumar]

It's Kawasaki thats ignoring trend - the adventure bike trend.

[@basmca1]

I think there is more to it. Companies want to make money and spend millions upon millions on market research. If they could make a money which is almost garanteed to make money, they would. Often there are more factors ar work. Maybe they have parts for 30.000 versys 300 at the factories and need to use those first, in order not to make a massive loss. So they miss out on Versys 450 sales, but can sell the current stock which would otherwise be worthless.

[@caveyful]

@@benfox8571 Why change what aint broke. It's got a better power/weight ratio than pretty much any of its competition unless they cost twice the price and only the modern twins of equal capacity can match it. All in a package that really works in the dirt as opposed to merely tolerating it.

[@lcagle33]

I had a 2017 X300 for five years and I loved it. I sold it, well, because I had it 5 years! Longer than any other bike. Been riding all my many decades long life. Was doing dual sport adventure riding way before it was called that. Had 5 BMW's and 4 were adventure bikes. Had to modify all of them in some way. I'm 6'3" and the X300 fit me perfect. No bar risers. Loaded it with all the Kawasaki accessories except for Shad luggage. It is a fun ride, and eats gravel roads for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. It is the exact bike I was looking for, a miniature light weight version of my R1200GS. I am looking for the next bike and am not finding it. I could just buy another X300. I thought it had great smooth linear power. It had great suspension, a firm and very comfortable seat, a super low 1st gear and a soft clutch. If they put even the 400 or the "450" engine in it , I would be a buyer for sure. And, no 21" wheels for me!

[@terryoleary8219]

You have struck a chord sir. I wholeheartedly agree with this video. When the Versus 300X came out it LOOKED like the kind of bike I would want but I knew it was probably too heavy for what it was, it didn't have proper offroad 18" and 21" spoked wheels, and the torque of the engine was anemic on the bottom end. Then the Ninja 400 came out with a peppier, lighter and more fuel efficient engine. I thought this engine would make a huge difference in the X. But for years Kawasaki chose not to change the frame to accommodate the newer 399cc engine. A Versys 451 would be a huge improvement over the current X, And being much improved it might eat into KLR sales. However, Kawasaki is in competition with more than themselves and just should accept they would overall do much better having the Versus 451 in their stable. Thanks for putting out a video that is so spot on.

[@angelpanco6523]

They had one in Europe Kawasaki KLE 500 from 1991 to 2007-8 but they discontinued it because of Versys 650 ( which is not a dual sport bike for me) I'm proud owner of the first generation 1991 KLE 500 and with regular maintenance it will roll for many more years, not mentioning that thill now it took me and back safely to a lot of trips and adventures ✌️

[@impreza99rs]

Great video. One of many that you make! You hit the nail on the head… let’s hope team green sees your video! I would buy Versys 500 at launch.

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

I think they would sell out before the first one landed at a dealer.

[@michaelkirkwood4953]

I was just talking about this yesterday. If Kawasaki made a 500 versys with the same body style as the 300 It would appeal to so many more people . I’m shopping for a light adventure bike and that’s what big green is missing.

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

Yes, the Versys 650 is not really an adventure bike and the KLR is fine, but a Vesys 500 would beat the pants off it. That bike would sell out quick.

[@Sousless]

I have Versys 300-X and I also had the same thought. Versys 400 or 450 would be a great bike. 300 is nice, but the small capacity limits how good it is. Other than that it's one of the best in it's class, only CB500X is better, all other bike have bigger compromises, feel cheaper, less comfortable, more vibey, etc. The only thought why Kawasaki didn't make this bike is they're afraid of cannibalizing KLR650 sales, it's also A2 compliant, and Versys 450-X would be a better version in almost every capacity. They could still do non-X Versys with bigger engine, which I think will also sell very well. Let's see hopefully Kawasaki is still cooking this bike.

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

A Versys 500 would outsell the KLR by a lot, but then Kawasaki should be happy about selling lots of bikes.

[@orangelion03]

Considering downsizing from my Tiger 900 RP. The forthcoming KTM 390 Adventure R looks like the ideal bike for me, but every one of my friends that bought 690/790 etc. are all on T7s or Transalp now. If a Versys 500 was to be available with a 21" front (I can live with a 17 rear) and reasonable suspension travel, I'd be on it immediately.

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

Yes, I think a lot of riders share that sentiment.

[@GLHS592]

I own a Versys-x 300. It has been a great beginner bike. It's great on the dirt backroads. I have taken it on some rogh uphill roads and it will do it. The bike will do 80 mph, but anything over 60 wears me out. it's not a bike I would take an out of state trip on. I've been thinking about upgrading lately. I almost bought a Honda Transalp. I loved the 750 parallel twin. I've also considered a Suzuki Vstrom 800 DE. I'd rather have a little smaller bike, so the new Himilayan looks interesting. I would definitely consider a Kawasaki Versys 450/500 that's more offroad capable and doesn't scream at 75 mph.

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

Yep, the new 451cc engine is quite chill at 80mph so a Versys 500 would be your perfect bike. Maybe they'll introduce it this year sometime.

[@TheDornado]

This is the exact bike I am looking for! Come on Kawasaki!

[@mikelobdell2666]

Seeing as it's a new year I wanted to add thanks for the content. I enjoy your channel. Big year coming up for you guys. Wishing you both the best.

[@anthonyparkes8162]

The Versys-X has not changed anything but it's colour since it's introduction in 2017. I owned a 2022 model for 2 yrs , putting over 30,000kms on it. It's a great bike for country roads and gravel roads, but left me wanting (needing) more power when overtaking or highway riding.

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

Yep, and extra 150cc would really improve the product.

[@patgenier1965]

Yes. Yes. Yes. A 450ish Versys X would be a great compliment to my Versys 650lt. Kawasaki, if you come out with that, you would have my deposit within a week.

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

Yep, a lot of riders share that view.

[@jhackett9482]

I owned the klr650 and now have a versys x300. I can say that on the road the 300 is a better bike. Offroad its so light its easier to handle so it already beats the 650. I would entertain the idea if a 450 but that might ruin its lightweight, simple charm. The bike takes a while to get used to but once acclimated you appreciate that engine and its a blast to ride...anywhere. Yes single track would be better with more torque but nobody buys it for that.

[@Motocampster]

I figured they would definitely have put the ninja 400 engine in it by now for sure

[@Mark-ou8nu]

As the owner of an overweight adv tourer, the CF Moto 450 is what I think about most often for a future bike. I just don't like single or four cylinder bikes for all rounders. But I also want a lighter bike.

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

Yes, if the Japanese brands don't give it to us, the Chinese will.

[@larrywade9041]

Happy New Year to you & your lovely wife. I hope that she is doing well with her pregnancy! I wish you both to have a very prosperous year, as I feel you will. Have a beautiful day!! Illinois, USA

[@RockstarVeganRecipes]

Awww, thank you very much for the wonderful message. Thankfully everything is going very well. Have a fabulous New Year also. :)

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

Thank you for the thoughtful message and we hope that you and yours have a great year as well. Cheers!

[@petedoug]

I own the versys x and just bought another bike to make a long trip. If a 500 were available I’d buy it for sure. Love the little Versys but it’s not great for munching miles on the highway. Good vid again…cheers

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

Thanks! I think that manufacturers are starting top realize that customers don't want spaceships but rather light, easy to handle bikes.

[@petedoug]

I agree. I went old school with my 2nd bike and bought a BMW K-75 partly because of reliability but primarily due to the hwy comfort. I don’t see anything in the 750 class that would be as comfortable over long distance that’s currently being offered. Cheers and congratulations!@@DifferentSpokesTV

[@julieesmith1049]

It was so great to see you again this year and excited to see your new edition 🙌🙏🫶 Looking forward to learning more from you both about different bikes 🏍 From Julie & Todd

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

Thank you so much!! It was great to see both of you again this year. Have a wonderful wedding and good luck on your motorcycle licence!

[@KevinCarrieLund-dp4ly]

They will be replacing Versys 650 with the new hybrid 451cc twin setup so you'll kinda get your wish! Versys 7 Hybrid. Still more street/touring with 19" front wheel.

[@sebbwebbo7557]

Nice video. It's really annoying that Kawasaki hasn't build a proper ADV bike the last few years - at least for us Europeans -> We can't get a KLR 650 (and we can't get a new x300). Beside that, the KLR is really a bit outdated. I'm often riding on gravel on my Versys 650 but it's not the best bike for that and too heavy for "real offroad" (at least for me). Afaik Kawasaki is currently working on a Versys 7 Hybrid Bike, similar to the recently presented Ninja 7 / Z7. We can just hope that they are working also on a more offroad oriented version..but I wouldn't count on that. It makes me a bit sad that I would need to change the brand for my next motorcycle, as a bit of offroad capability is a "must have" for me when buying my next bike. I guess it also has to do with the "green way" they decided to choose -> Hybrid, electric, etc... We'll see how that plays out the next few years

[@anvar8232]

Versys X500 is what I have been looking forward ever since they announced their 500 lineup. KLR 650 is the only thing, I can think of, which could stop this from happening. Versys X500 would beat Honda in weight and power, thus in performance but not in comfort.

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

I agree that it would kill the KLR but it would be a better bike than the KLR and Kawasaki would sell tons of them. I hope they make one.

[@DiveTrainerDan]

I totally hear you. They have the new 450 eliminator engine and are just sitting on it. Out in Southern Wisconsin used ones go pretty fast.

[@halinabiegalski9509]

Like usually, solid and honest research and interesting comments 👍

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

Glad you think so!

[@kevinarmstrong478]

Yes it’s a sign of the times. People want and can afford only one do- everything bike. A 300 is great IF you have something a bit bigger in the shed for a weekend on the blacktop. A big adventure bike is good if you have a Little rock - hopper for real of roading. Kawasaki won’t make a bike that will compete with KLR they need to put theKLR out of its misery once and for all and make this.

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

I agree. A Versys 500 would be way nicer than the KLR.

[@klano8443]

I rode the new 450 Himalayan it is a gem , the engine is relaxed but torquey offroad , on road it has plenty of power and will cruise at 130kmh.

[@acarrascoy]

I wonder if the gas mileage in a hypothetical Versys-X 500 would be better than in the X-300... Because it was a bit appalling that the smaller Kawasaki engine would be thirstier than Honda's bigger and more powerful 471cc mill.

[@karottstratton4594]

Great video. Thank you! I am Versys x300 owner; love the bike for what it is. BUT, hate that I will need to leave Kawasaki to address the shortcomings of the too small motor, suspension, wheels. And those of us who leave Kawasaki for the x450-500 sweet spot will NEVER come back to purchase a 650 KLR dinosaur (nor will we go for the two larger Versys bikes bc they are NOT adventure bikes, but rather sport tourers). Kawasaki, this KLR 650 cannibalization “reasoning” is COMPLETELY missing your audience, the magic of what the Vx300 attracts…and all those people and $$ that are instead going to Honda, KTM, RE. 380# weight of Versys x300 (and KTM 390) and the dream Versys x450-500 in your video, is perfect for older experienced riders and newer learning riders; combine those two market segments and you capture a lot of riders and $$. Sure, the Vx300 or x250 might be needed/leveraged for international markets where smaller displacement maybe better fit; bring Vx450-500 to compete head to head with Honda, KTM, Royal Enfield in those markets where they are dominating that 400-500cc market share. In the next year I will have to move on from my beloved Vx300, have to leave Kawasaki and bed up with one of those other brands/bikes…but I prefer to stay loyal to the great x300 lineage and would buy a Versys x450-500 in a heartbeat. Interestingly, a couple riding friends would be tempted to jump from their Honda’s for this newer VX bike, too. Are you seeing this video and these comments Kawasaki?!?

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

Thanks! I hope Kawasaki introduces the Versys 500 this year so you can buy your dream bike.

[@shashimenon1000]

Agreed. I would go for it as a come down from my Tr Tiger 850 Sport.

[@stephanematis]

450 sweet spot with a light overall ridable package: Yes please.

[@denniekorpi5264]

You really nailed Kawasaki’s problem-not producing Bikes they are capable of doing while other manufacturers do. A better adventure Versys and KLR

[@mrgjr8758]

Waiting for Kawasaki Z500RS.

[@chrispekel5709]

For all those saying the bike might compete with the KLR650...remember it's not available in Europe any more

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

True. If Kawasaki wants to sell in the huge Euro market a Versys 500 would be the ticket.

[@Bugoutnow589]

Yes Sir, the Versys 500 sounds like a very interesting bike. You’re the first to call for it. However this video made me think, of a new TRUE DUAL SPORT, a new KLR 450 with a 44mm carb 5 Speed and zero electronics. 🎉

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

That would be nice but I doubt we'll get that. I was expecting something like that when the KLR was coming back from its hiatus but instead we got an even heavier one than before.

[@beardannyboy]

Well said, I think your perspective is right on the money.

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

Thanks!

[@GManWrites]

As long as it's Japanese I don't care which of the big four I own.

[@victoriazero8869]

The reason why Versys use 300cc and Ninja have 400cc is because the Ninja already have new frame to begin with, and it was actually based on Ninja 250 that exist everywhere except US. That's why ninja 400 feel so lightweight for the class. Eliminator is sold as Eliminator 400, and not 450 in Asia and parts of Europe. For Versys to use 400/450 engine would indeed necessitate using new frame and they're most likely not ready to gamble on new adventure bikes.

[@MinhVu-in9iz]

I love my ninja 400, I would totally buy a versys 500, tubeless tires with bags!! Keep the seat at 32”!

[@blackbuttecruizr]

Happy New Year! How are Mama and Baby?

[@RockstarVeganRecipes]

Thank you so much, we are doing great, thankfully! Five months to go. Happy New Year to you too.:)

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

Happy new year!! And thank you for the kind words. Have a great 2024.

[@SquareHelmet]

Great video, as usual! I am on the market for a bike in this segment - and would love Versys 500! A more powerful and lighter "Honda NX500" - just what I need. One more wish bike - Yamaha Tenere 400 or 500: light, powerful, dirt-friendly adventure bike. This would be my first choice... Do they plan to make one?

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

Thanks! I used to hear rumours about a possible Tenere 300 based on the R3 motor but it's been a while and nothing. Now that motor has fallen behind so until Yamaha updates the engine I doubt we'll see a smaller Tenere. Good luck with your search!

[@andyc750]

It is something they need to do but there is also the imminent CFmoto mt450 that looks like it is pretty much bang on specs wise and could have a huge impact in that sector

[@falcn12]

I'd buy a NEW one from the dealer if they made the Versys '500'.

[@trd4d]

I got the x300 for many reasons. The first thing that got my attention was the seat height. I think a latger engine would be good as long as the height remains the same. I am looking at the 700 from CF Moto. Not a bike for serious offroad riding, but good enough for the offroading i do, it is not top heavy, and the seat height is very friendly. Also very capable on the highway. Only drawback is the 3.4 gallon tank.

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

CF Moto is getting a lot of attention right now.

[@roxtarcool]

Don’t think it’s going to happen. 1. A Versys X-450 will eat away KLR sales. 2. Bumping up the cc will drastically increase the price in the Asian market (due to tax rules) where this bike sells in high volume. Btw, KTM is rumored to being a harder-edged enduro-styled 390 adventure bike in 2025.

[@chrispekel5709]

It'll be made in Thailand so they don't pay higher taxes on it due to local production I believe. Also, the KLR isn't available everywhere in the world...

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

Yep, my last video was about the 2025 390 Adventure spy shots. However, for the Asian markets Kawasaki already makes a 250cc Versys while exporting the 300 so they may as well make a new one and keep the 250 at home.

[@urbanadventurer5]

I have the X300 and it’s a great bike for what it is. My guess is we will probably never see an X500 due to how invested they are in the KLR 650 platform. I think that’s unfortunate as well. I do think they desperately need a more off road capable 700-1100cc ADV bike in their lineup even if they stay married to the KLR.

[@wayneluly5330]

my wife and i both owned KLE 500 kawasaki , s adventure bike in the early 2000,s They were very good off road and good in the desert as both were watercooled i don,t why Kawasaki stopped builing them

[@litosoneja]

Kawasaki Versys 500 for me👍

[@charliequach6399]

I can't wait for Versys 500 anymore. Gonna look at the new CFMoto 450MT (Ibex 450 in America) soon.

[@sputnik5991]

I wonder if yamaha will ever get back into small displacement adv/dual-sports

[@berniegrant6183]

Versys x 450 baby!

[@Fiatmannen1]

I agree, had a 300 great bike but too buzzy and no turn off rear abs.

[@Irishrover1]

Testing the new Kawasaki hybrid this month and apparently a Versys version is on its way. 👍

[@Fiatmannen1]

Mayby, and just a versys with 17 17 wheels. It will be a pig heavy and cumbersum. And expensive

[@nkwd007]

very good video, I agree with you.

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

Thanks!

[@gregorbabic7664]

In total agreement with you. That is a bike that would sell. But it would have to be done in a wire wheel 21-18 version with a decent sized fuel tank and a 425lbs wet max weight. And could it please come stock with integrated pannier racks you can attach proper soft bags to? And if I can be so bold to ask for a stock thick plastic bash plate that could handle most non desert riding? And keep plastic to a minimum and make any plastics durable dirt bike style plastic that can take a beating. Costs would have to be kept within a 25% premium over a KLR I would say.

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

All those seem possible but with the current Versys X weighing only 387lbs I think they could get the new one under 400.

[@gregorbabic7664]

@@DifferentSpokesTV I feel that is too wishful thinking. Add some fuel capacity and the larger wheels and you are quickly at 400lbs. Then add some better protection and integrated soft bag mounting and better suspension and I would be content with 425lbs. I mean the price needs to stay competitive and that means a bit more weight.

[@niteshsharma8493]

Any thoughts on cfmoto mt 450

[@shortattentionspangarage1312]

I specifically went with a 2023 KLR650S because I was tired of Kawasaki waiting on the bigger bore Versys X.

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

Yeah, they wouldn't sell many KLRs if a Versys X500 came out.

[@Theoriginalbubbafett]

It would be so perfect for my daily commute! It’s not even funny.

[@joemann2178]

I wish Kawasaki had a small adventure bike at 450cc with 21inch tubeless front tyres.

[@zt1307]

Kupiłbym Versys 500 już wczoraj, nie wiem o co chodzi że jeszcze go brakuje na rynku Europy

[@jameshenry1729]

I Would Like to see a Versys 400cc 42 HP 27 fp of Torque... 🎉

[@robertgoerss]

A Kawasaki 451 plus tubeless tires would jump ahead of the Honda and very likely the new RE Himalayan (which I have not ridden). A lighter, more powerful and very reliable twin Japanese bike is the way to go.

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

I think a lot of riders would feel that way. Kawasaki would sell a ton of these.

[@robertgoerss]

@@DifferentSpokesTV For sure.

[@alexreinhardt6971]

Have you heard anything about the Yamaha PG-1? Coming to USA or Canada? Is it real?

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

I've seen that it's been released but haven't heard it it's coming here. Last year Honda announced that the Trail 125 was coming to Canada around the February manufacturer's bike show so if it's coming this year Yamaha might aim for an announcement around that time.

[@johnstewart6652]

Nailed it. Its been said that kw doesnt want to compete with their own 650 versys sales. So I guess theyll let cfmotos new 450 beat them to the punch. Competition is good. Hate buying Chinese but if thats the game they want to play they will have lost a ton of sales before theyre enlightened.

[@chrispekel5709]

At the end of the day, the Thai government has a bad human rights record as does the Indonesian government. It was only a couple of decades ago that Australian troops were engaged in skirmishes with Indonesian-government backed rebels in Timor. But nobody minds purchasing Japanese brands produced in either of those countries - I guess the difference being they're not saber rattling

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

Yes, the Chinese bikes are coming and if the Japanese brands don't take notice CF Moto and Kove will take their lunch.

[@mikesbo1]

I would buy the Versys 400/450/500 in a heartbeat. I have owned a V-Strom 650 and now an NC750x (wife had a CB500x). The Suzuki was too tall and too heavy. I'm short (5'8", 29" inseam). The Honda is too heavy, and the engine not sufficiently motorcycle like (doesn't rev, 7000 RPM redline). I bought the NC750x because of the 17" alloy wheels and 31" seat height (I'm short), but I would much prefer the lighter Versys-X 300 with the new engine. I'm more on road than off, and want the light weight, upright seating position, and road-biased tubeless tires for touring. I am confident that there are many people like myself, especially in Europe, who would buy a Versys 500. I even have the Honda luggage, but would still pay the price to make the move to something that fits me and my needs. I can't think of a bike that would fit better than a Versys 500 (based on the Versys-X 300),

[@benfox8571]

DR650 ftw

[@wickedleeloopy2115]

Kawazaki have been asleep 😴 while Royal Enfield & CF moto quietly built their 450 mulit cylinder adventure bikes . Im thinking the cfmoto450mt will be a much bigger seller. 🤔 learning from building ktm engines... you will see

[@raulsalanaranjo6565]

The only problem with Kawasaki is my local dealer. Rather shady people, not the most professional ones either. If it wasn’t for that, a Versys 500 would be in my shortlist

[@gerardmontgomery280]

I'm not sure I get the Kawa 500, it doesn't seem to make a lot of sense to me with the 650 being such a sweet engine unless they have plans of either ditching it of boring it out to 800 or 900. That said it's weird to see the baby twin hit 500 when that's where the 650 started as the EN/Ninja 500. Although none of the Versys make a good off road bike. My V1000 is very much in the same mould as the S1000XR rather than the R1250GS.

[@johnharris7353]

Well of course i, myself,, being a superior being, recently purchased a BMW f650 gs !!🤗

[@CTR_Dan]

No shot this would happen with a KLR in their lineup

[@alphajed7700]

If there is something that Kawasaki don't give attention, it's ADV lineup

[@theeschatechannel2854]

If they did what you are suggesting than it would destroy their KLR sales.

[@rezkyputra5239]

I have own the 300X for over 5 yrs with hundreds of km both on and off pavement My two cents, kawasaki don't really want to roll out the cash to develop completely brand new engine. In order to satisfy a competitive 500-650 cc true on-off adventure bike, kawi needs a new engine that it does not have, they have either the rev-itchy 650 p-twin of the Ninja/versys 650, or the lumbering but not highway friendly KLR singles The major weakness of the 300X is the extreme lack of low-end torque, given the engine is literally a Ninja, same as versys 650.

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

Yes, but this new 451cc twin would be a perfect replacement.

[@rezkyputra5239]

@@DifferentSpokesTV I see, then the only other reason that they don't is regulations. In a few asian country, ie Indonesia, Thailand, and Japan itself, all of which are major motorcycle markets, engines above 250 are heavily taxed, almost 100%. KTM 390 Adv, for example, costs around 10.000 USD here, CB500X costs almost 15k. Theres almost 100 CRF250 and V-300X for every 1 390 here in my city. Manufacturers tend to lower the CC for that, the redesign CRF300 is modified to be still 250 by modifying the crankshaft. Kawi don't even sell the Ninja 300/400 here, knowing that they wouldn't sell any. While only the rich could afford like a ninja 650 or cbr600rr Also the same reason why Kawi churns out the ZX25R first, not ZX3R, and only produce ZX4R fairly recently

[@kiplambel4052]

I would gladly crisscross the whole continent on a 450cc Versys X, but the 300 is a big NO from me.

[@kolanks1]

Hopefully it'll never happen, hopefully we get a Versys 400R i4🙏

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

Ha, ha! Nice!

[@rtousa335]

If Kawasaki is not fast to develop ( maybe it’s not their interest too) my money would go to CFMoto 450 MT that was revealed not long ago.

[@chrispekel5709]

I have a real suspicion that bike is going to be absolutely awesome. Problem is, I sound like a chinese shill when I say it

[@kanderson4417]

Where is the Royal Enfield Shotgun?

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Kawasaki seems allergic to the 270° crankshaft phasing on their small twins. Even Aprilia is releasing a 450-class 270° parallel with the RS457.

[@chrispekel5709]

At this point the fact that they don't and still have the sewing machine sound kind of makes them more unique.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

@@chrispekel5709 Sort of? If people like that raspy agricultural noise, and the tingling vibrations from engines set up that way.

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

Yep, a Tuareg 457 would be pretty cool too.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

@@DifferentSpokesTV I hope a Tuono 457 is in their cards.

[@chrispekel5709]

@@exothermal.sprocket vibes really only show up at certain rpms. I think the older ER6 used to vibrate but the newer models are pretty smooth...I think they sorted out the mounting or something. Done thousands of kilometres with the kawasaki and cfmoto version of the engine and never found it a problem at all. Way less vibes than a v twin or single. The sound does suck, if you want a nice loud bike then I'd get something else. If you like a muted exhaust then it's fine. Not great engine but good, and super reliable. There's a reason all the 650 chinese bikes are using the design (their main drive is to show reliability to the world I think)

[@tomg6284]

KTM 590 is in the works.

[@Mar_Tin]

Since about 88 years.

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

They were working on a 490 before but that project either stalled or became a 590. That would put them close to the Aprilia Tuareg.

[@AngelFaceMotoRider]

made this comment BEFORE watching. Don't you mean new Versys 400x or extra new Versys 450x. 😜

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

Great to hear from you Angel. They called the new Ninja a 500 and their new naked bike a Z500 so I'm assuming that they'd go with the Versys 500 to keep it consistent. Hope you are well out in Calgary.

[@AngelFaceMotoRider]

I HATE THAT.! I really dislike when they round-up so much. I always call the Honda 471's to remind riders it's not a true 500. My first impression of the new Kawasaki 451 sport-cruiser motorcycle is it's ugly. I am happy to hear your report on it's Engine & Performance. You must be going to the Toronto MotoShow this weekend right.? Love to hear more about your opinion on the 5 brand new models being released. Maybe there is more then just 5.

[@sportmuaythaiv1045]

New 2024 CFMoto 450 MT beats Kawasaki to the pole. I was waiting for Versys 400 which never came.

[@stevieneilson2451]

It's because they would lose sales from the KLR and Versys 650..

[@angelpanco6523]

They had the KLR 650 and KLE 500 (paralel twin, dual sport) in the 90s on the market in Europe and people had plenty of choice

[@mikelobdell2666]

I agree. The only bikes that I've come across being towed back from an adventure ride are KTM's. I've read enough comments and reviews from owners that have had major problems that I'm not going to buy one,(and I know that some owners have few problems) but a Japanese offering in the 500 cc class would be tempting. Especially as you say if it is distinguishably better than the cb500x.

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

Yep, unfortunately I've been on some of those rider where KTM products did not want to cooperate.

[@brianm5753]

Itchy Boots and others have proven Himalayan would be less problematic than a KTM

[@KrypteiaXi]

They are never making this because quite honestly, who is going to buy the 650?

[@djeffhawk7987]

In Europe (France) Kawasaki as no KLR 650, no Versys X 300 anymore since 5 years. Kawasaki as nothing to do "dual sport" it is the same for Suzuki no DR 400 or 650, same for Yamaha. Just Honda had the CRF 300 l red, no rally.

[@M4ttM4n20]

296cc twin engine.

[@drury2d8]

These motorcycles will be redundant after the launch of the himalayan 450, costwise.

[@chrispekel5709]

The Himalayan isn't cheap. Not expensive either however