WHERE IS THE SHOCK?? Vital Rides the Digit Datum Mountain Bike

[@DigitBikes]

I mispoke at 10'06". The Medium and Large sizes cover the range 5'6" to 6'2". Small is recommended for people shorter than 5'6" , XL for people taller 6'2".

[@SPEXWISE]

This bike is phenomenal. I absolutely love it. I remember first seeing a full suspension bike back in the 90s, it was a trek Y frame carbon fibre thing that blew my mind and what got me into mtb. I can honestly say that this design blows me away just as much as the day I saw that trek. How innovative and simple it is and how well it works. I bet it must have been a eureka moment when he came up with the idea. I simply have to start saving for one. I need it in my life. That red and gold is like mwah chefs kiss.

[@KaizersPOV]

i hope your market will reach The Phillipines :(

[@DigitBikes]

@@SPEXWISE I'd be super pruney if I'd waited in the bath for a eureka moment. Thanks for the kind words.

[@DigitBikes]

@@KaizersPOV People outside of the US have been importing/exporting them with freight forwarding services already. I remember speaking with someone in the Phillipines, though I don't know where the frames go after freight forwarding service.

[@Hunter_Bidens_Crackpipe_]

Finally something with actual innovation and not just shuffling around from one proprietary standard to the other.

[@bighitsfootage]

Awesome that he designed it with self-service mechanics in mind.

[@DigitBikes]

I am a self service mechanic!

[@boronsniify]

I love the reasoning behind this design - simpler, stiffer, more reliable and lighter. I think Tim has nailed it and this is my new dream bike!

[@grundle.chunder]

I've been obsessed with this ever since the prototype popped up on PB. I'm determined to make it my next rig. Real "forever bike" vibes.

[@Frater_Maven]

Everything about it is brilliant: elimination of side loading means no stiction, higher volume of shock lube means you're pretty mich garunteed to never experience cavitation or hysterisys and makes service intervals are longer apart, the lower ratio of strut movent to rear wheel travel and both chambers, positive and negative

[@Cogger74]

Putting my hand up to being a Kickstarter supporter of this brand. At 5’7” I find the medium frame to be a great fit. At 220lbs I have been known to punish bikes but the Datum frame remains stiff with no unwanted flex or rub. It’s a playful bike that begs to be pushed hard. Very glad I was an early adopter!

[@DigitBikes]

Thanks so much for your support in getting this thing going Russell, let's hope I can get more bikes to the UK so we can ride some time!

[@Artcore103]

5'7" 220? whoa... bro. you can do better, you owe it to yourself. it'll be good for your biking, and good for your joints and organs, good for your mental health (biologically even, not just perceptually), and good for your life... literally, your overall health and longevity. just keeping it real.

[@DigitBikes]

@@Artcore103 whoa… bro. That’s super uncool to say to a stranger on the internet. Do you know that he’s not a body builder? He said he just bought a bike, do you know that wasn’t his incentive and apparatus to lose weight? You can do better, you owe it to yourself.

[@Cogger74]

@@Artcore103 😂 Thanks for the concern.

[@Artcore103]

@@Cogger74 yep, someone's gotta say it, that's what guy friends are for! I'll buy you a beer or some wings when you're under 200, and 50 bucks when you hit 180.

[@eddielitter3445]

What a brilliant design.

[@JaggedTusk]

This bike is looking legit. Originally I was questioning the proprietary shock but it's not a concern I have anymore after learning more about it. I'd seriously consider one of these designs if they made one full 29er and maybe shorter travel.

[@davidmaskew]

I agree, I really like this bike. I'd just prefer it to be a 29er. I get why people do the mullet thing but I prefer a pair of wheels 😂

[@davidmaskew]

I've just been looking and the Ring looks like the model we are waiting for.

[@thermonuculur]

Love this design, very well executed. Seriously looking at this as my next trail bike. Tim's logic and discussion are spot-on.

[@PuffinPass]

First thought from the thumbnail alone was, "Oh boy another impossible to service internal 120mm shock" Have to say I was proven wrong and actually am interested in one. Not this year but I am putting it on my short list of options in the next year. Also looking forward to seeing detail vids of the full shock service process. As described the process seems a bit of work but rather simple at the same time, the fact that you can use common tools really takes it to a level that has been missing from a lot of other brands that try integrated shock systems.

[@DigitBikes]

Honestly, if I saw this and didn’t know what was inside I think I’d go through the same though process. Thank you for taking the time to look closer.

[@PuffinPass]

@@DigitBikes thank you for creating a stunning looking bike that can be worked on by the home mechanic.

[@user-mm9hv2oj8d]

Issue is not the tools or the difficulty. Issue is getting parts when only one small company is selling the product.

[@DigitBikes]

@@user-mm9hv2oj8d I understand this concern, there’s truth to it for every new product. With this in mind, I designed so that all of the seals and bushings are stock parts available from online hardware vendors. The machined parts are no more proprietary than the pivot bolts on most any bike on the market.

[@ashergodden5646]

SUCH a great idea!!!! It weighs WAY less than a standard shock and shock mount. It has a larger positive chamber and larger negative chamber that each have their own valve and allows you to fill each separately with your shock pump. Room for a larger volume of shock oil, and cools that oil more efficiently than standard shock making hysteresis a thing of the past. Widest possible tuning range of any air sprung frame/shock combo available on the market. Fuckin genius! To all those working in marketing for the cycling industry, THIS is innovation. Not a wheelset where the front rim's internal width is 3mm wider than the rear rim's. Not making handlebars unnecessarily wide in the middle and way to stiff as a result. Not chainstays that are the same length for two smallest frame sizes then get 8mm longer on the 3 largest sizes. THIS is innovation

[@philhunt1442]

Hope all is well at Digit, can't wait for the next frame drop!

[@Jpearse1]

Great looking bike. Informative and no sale pitch chat. Tim seems like a great Bloke with a lot of knowledge, look forward to seeing where he goes with it

[@DigitBikes]

So you're saying I need to sprinkle in some sales pitch chat - that feels like the missing ingredient for success 🤓

[@gregoryf9299]

The rear strut dimensions alone make this a winner IMO.

[@sueneilson896]

Been riding MTBs since they were invented in the 80s. If the pivots and bearings/bushes prove durable, this is a winning concept. Simplicity will always win eventually.

[@maxlammtyaf8514]

That's the most beautiful bike frame in history for me .... hardtail look with full suspended advantages ... perfection

[@littlehobbies]

This is dope, love to see the bike industry develop new ideas like this, can't wait to see where this bike goes and what the future of the company is

[@GHinWI]

Such a cool design and love the domestic-made Al approach. The bottom bracket pivot does look a little worrying from the dirt/debris standpoint… I’d love to get one when there’s a 130/120 29’er version since that what suits my area and riding ability.

[@DigitBikes]

It's basicaly just two bottom brackets, each has two rows of bearings and is very well sealed. Also the link has a sloped top surface so that water and dirt won't build up and pack in, the slope directs debris away from the drivetrain.

[@DigitBikes]

there's an email signup if you'd like to be informed of developments and when it's ready

[@HavokTheorem]

Man, I've been playing around with Linkage so much trying to come up with macpherson strut designs for the same reasons he's outlined. So simple and rigid.

[@Artcore103]

That is absolutely sick. I wish these bikes, or this kind of tech, could be affordable. =/

[@ericschleppenbach3519]

Tim made a lot of good points for his design and it seems like this bike has a lot of potential. I wish they walked through the bottom bracket linkage a little more and after seeing the mud on the linkage at 15:21, wonder if there's a drainage path for that dirt and water to wash out or if that grit could prematurely wear the bottom bracket.

[@rampapandiontinling]

I love this design. Had a Boulder bikes Intrepid with internal shock as my first mountain bike back in the day. So this really reminds me of that, taken to the next level! :)

[@amitkumar-wj8gn]

Now that is a unique bike. Well done Digit!

[@DigitBikes]

Thanks, Amit!

[@amitkumar-wj8gn]

@@DigitBikes I would have ordered but the import fees would kill me! I hope your bike company does very well and may your line up grow and you make a frame for short folks like me (5'3" here!)

[@DigitBikes]

@@amitkumar-wj8gn I mis-spoke in the video. The size S is for people under 5'7" I have a chap who's 5'4" riding one, he uses a 50mm stem, you'd likely fit well with a 40mm or 32mm stem. Where in the world are you? Already a few people have used freight forwarding services, or visits to get theirs in UK, Australia, Europe etc...

[@CanIHasThisName]

It's such a lovely design.

[@ThunderStruckMTB]

Loved this! Such a good interview and what looks like an awesome bike. I will be in the market for a new bike next year and this is in the running.

[@ToddNZMTB]

I just like the innovation here, people with the creativity [and expertise!] making interesting stuff. I really want to see the shock service/removal too...

[@gregoryflinn3577]

As a 15 year Maverick durance owner, this was interesting, I will certainly at least be looking at the website. Although I did promise myself no more derailleur systems …

[@johnnydoe66]

I remember the Boulder Bicycle mtb with this style of rear suspension. I saw one once while trail riding back on the mid 90's. The one thing about this bike is how it looks so high quality with the design and especially this paint scheme. Boulder even built a road bike using this style of suspension. Digit should look into building a short travel gravel frame once they're building larger numbers and it's profitable.

[@bimmerfan729]

Really great interview. Nice to see something else new out there, really looks like a cool new option!

[@MachuDidgeridoo]

Absolutely gorgeous frame! 10/10!

[@DN4AGDX]

Kinda reminds me of the old Lightspeed and Mavrick frames from the 90s. Cool looking ride.

[@PuddyIzzy]

Props to making this! Hope this reaches the Philippines.

[@simpledj509chromo7]

Honestly looks pretty cool. As a 5'2" rider with a short inseam I think I'll have to pass. My options are super limited but this looks innovative and fun. I like what this guy is doing with his designs.

[@taylorhickman84]

Brilliant design w/o compromising water bottle placement and dropper length, bravo. And as a CNC operator, I dig the name 'Datum'.

[@DigitBikes]

It’s my reference model. That’s what I meant was explaining that it’s the middle of the line model, from which I’ll deviate toward XC or DH. But I forgot to say ‘Datum’😂.

[@briw4647]

this looks very, very interesting. the rear shock system has hooked me

[@baddriversofcolga]

I love that it's aluminum and made in the U.S. We need more of that!

[@DigitBikes]

Thanks BDoCG! Get your friends to each buy two! Sales is the only thing that can move more manufacturing manufacturing here.

[@snokefilmmedia]

Extremely interesting concept. If it scales well with longer travel (160mm+), then I will 100% buy one, even more so if I can run it as a mullet. I've come to strongly appreciate lateral stiffness in a frame, and you can really see how well this concept works in that regard in the slowmo shots.

[@garfield0tm]

Amazing interview. All the concepts are top noch. I whish success to the company and waiting for 29er enduro smasher.

[@DigitBikes]

Thanks so much. An enduro bike is likely a few years away. I feel that Datum is on the more capable/burly/rowdy end of the all-mountain spectrum, it can smash.

[@mudkayak6305]

So love what you're doing here. Love the integrated BB, Love the Shock Strut and it makes sense you can tune it for way better performance and feel. All it needs is flip chip and adjustable HeadSet HTA such as Stumpy EVO or Fuel Ex gen 6. Really hope this takes off, wishing you the best. Oh yeah and Want it !

[@DigitBikes]

Big goals were to increase reliability and simplicity, and actually get to market. Flip chips would've worked against those. Have you ridden these bikes? What would you have flip?

[@mathieusynnott8915]

yes!!! it needs flip chip!!!

[@mathieusynnott8915]

ajustable headset angle😍

[@DigitBikes]

@@mathieusynnott8915 Have you ridden these bikes? What would you change based on that experience?

[@mathieusynnott8915]

Yes it makes geometry ajustable a little without the need of a mullet 29" / 27.5" to slacken the head angle

[@douglaskaye1395]

Cool design and well thought through.

[@paulmeier678]

brilliant solution

[@freddievanheerden9739]

Wow! This is super interesting. I love the idea behind the simplistic design and the serviceability! It is very nice to look at as well. @DigitBikes do you have graphs you can share on the anti-squat and leverage ratio?

[@DigitBikes]

Because I use a custom shock, with an airspring curve designed to match the frame rate, these graphs aren't directly comparable to others. Really these graphs should only be for development anyway, to help validate an idea for production. I encourage you to listen to the ride summary, and read the reviews. The kinematics are extra-normal, the mechanism is somewhat like a middle-ground between the most succesful short-link-4-bar systems, there's a deeper explanation on my website, look for the "Analog Suspension" link.

[@MountainBikeBarbados]

Damn, I love this new colourway combo, sick AF. Waiting for the shorter travel version that'll come in a few years.

[@DigitBikes]

Thanks for saying so, There's a guy further down who absolutely hates the color, my chi feels much better balanced now 🤣.

[@MountainBikeBarbados]

🤣 No worries man, glad I could help out 🤣 On the colourway thing, I meant all inclusive, i.e. the roasted red frame colour with the gold accents bits and signage. all then in the sweet matte. The colour itself I'd be happy with, but the whole gold accent stuff, all in matte, is what really got me. Oh and yeah of course full 29er on the shorter travel to come 😉

[@taylorhickman84]

@@DigitBikes anodizing I assume? I love the "satin" finish.

[@DigitBikes]

@@taylorhickman84 yes, anodized. I’ve done some in Cerakote too.

[@ItsMeHammie]

Sweet bike. A great option for an enthusiast who knows exactly what they want.

[@mikefidler4421]

Good luck! I have a Maverick ML8 hanging in the garage still. I loved that bike and see a lot of similarities. Wish you every success.

[@DigitBikes]

Thanks!

[@jasonkroll2735]

Been wainting for this design to be real.. better than the Scott "hide- a -shock" think this would be a great xc shock frame idea as well.

[@DigitBikes]

Thanks for recognising the difference between integrated and just hidden.

[@tomatostakefabrik9429]

Love the design!!

[@SecretSpots]

LOVE this. What a sick looking bike.

[@aaronburela432]

Damn tested right there in San Clemente wish I saw it in the wild. Such a cool bike

[@DigitBikes]

I most frequently ride SJT, Laguna. Funny, I rode an unstickred black prototype around for years and nobody ever noticed, as soon as I put a sticker on people became interested. Perhaps all the ‘spy shots’ are intentional 🤔.

[@Hemsworthyclub]

I might just be a stooge but this is the most interesting practical design I’ve ever seen 🎉❤😊

[@DigitBikes]

Thank you for stooging, I need all the support I can get. Stooges make a good complement to the Minions I already have (they're brothers too DH-F and DH-Rii)

[@alexanderosherow2064]

sick innovation, glad to see some new brands pushing the limits

[@stevervta]

Love my Digit! Solid California Gold!

[@DigitBikes]

Your bike is sick! (It’s over on the ‘gram if anyone want so see it). Thanks for joining Digit nation, land of the Digit, Clan Digit, the Digiteers - we’ll have to workshop the name.

[@Cogger74]

@@DigitBikes Definitely need an owners club!

[@DigitBikes]

@@Cogger74 We could hide it here in the comments!

[@Cogger74]

@@DigitBikes Checking in🥳

[@MarioXcore1]

Wow, so cool, I’d love to try one!

[@flexmtb]

Looks great. I have a Niner Rip 9 RDO and geo looks very, very similar. So I'm assuming that it rides fantastic! Anyone who hasn't tried Niner's CVA suspension should really consider it. I think it's superior than pretty much anything out there. When you actually look at how it works, it completely makes sense. This bike (again) has an extremely similar geo design.

[@deividas_kimontas]

Looks like it does the job! 🤘

[@reykjavik9187]

This shock reminded me of Isostrut which is super slick. 🖤 On the other hand, what I don't like about Isostrut is that it makes you pretty tied to one Shock, you can't just do a "hot-swap" between shocks of standard sizes like 7.5 x 2.0, etc. Also, Isostut doesn't come as a drop-in-replacement variant. I'm a casual rider, yet Isostrut-gimmick was for me a decisive moment that made me give up on Supercaliber.

[@fujitsubo]

my ibis ripmo v2 has had zero problems with the shocks or links & its been 2 years already. Think many bikes nowadays are very reliable, quite easy to service & reasonable warranties so think Digit has to do more than just selling reliability & simplicity IMO. Hope it succeeds

[@DigitBikes]

My last bike was a ripmo, they are great bikes. There are a few EX-ripmo owners, who are pleased with their choice to now ride a Digit.

[@jerryscott9598]

@@DigitBikes Hi Tim, (& thanks for a great review, Jason), good to know a techy, long time mt biker like you, including your work in the industry, rode an Ibis! I just purchased a 2021 Mojo V4, and really like it, (although it's taking time to dial in the Fox Fac suspension). Really like the simplicity, clean lines, functionality, easy of maint. etc. on your bikes). I'm in N OC, so not far from you, (I recognized the hills in video w all the mustard taking over many trails). All the best on your journey, this is a good start, w over 350 comments, and you personally replying to many)!

[@serenidadypaciencia]

i would love to try that bike

[@elijahmtb]

It’s so clean looking

[@salesnorthharbour1454]

The part I wanted to know about the most wasn't explained and was almost completely forgotten - now I have to look up the bottom bracket pivot myself.

[@DigitBikes]

It’s described with words and pictures on my website. If you have any questions after reviewing that I’m happy to hear them.

[@lynjhonosia1190]

Love it when it was the enthuast are the ones making these bikes nowadays

[@lefthorse1]

I did not understand , how to take out the shock from the top tube .. Long , long time i did not see a bike with such a beautiful frame color , the whole design its so simple-perfect .. its a beauty :)

[@edlorenz1552]

I love this bike. The thing that scares me is dirt and water ingress into the BB area from that lower link. Is it sealed off some how or is an area that will need frequent attention?

[@DigitBikes]

It's basicaly just two bottom brackets, each has two rows of bearings and is very well sealed. Also the link has a sloped top surface so that water and dirt won't build up and pack in, the slope directs debris away from the drivetrain.

[@DigitBikes]

There's more information about this on the website, but youtube won't let me reply with links.

[@mathieusynnott8915]

@digitbikes show us a shock alone

[@mathieusynnott8915]

@digitbike thanks looks Awsome

[@edlorenz1552]

@@DigitBikes Alright. Fair enough. I'll seriously consider the shorter travel 29er when it is available.

[@cliffsangelsphotography]

Hey, that's San Clemente, my backyard🤘. I do a lot of MTB photography there. I can do photos for you guys if you want 🤙

[@davidmaskew]

I really like that frame design. Does the bike have to be mixed wheel size? I like that minimalist look of there being less linkages. It looks a bit more like a cross country bike but also has just that bit more travel which is something I'm interested in.

[@DigitBikes]

This is the first model. In future (assuming enough people buy the current model to fund it😜), there will be models with more and models with less travel, and likely other wheel sizes.

[@AidarIslamov]

It is absolutely clear that to support the rider's weight the shock has to be under the side force all the time. This force will constantly add wear to the bushings and try to break the upper tube. There is no other joint other than one at the shock that could hold that weight which is a force applied downside.

[@DigitBikes]

This is specifically discussed in the video around 3m20s.

[@AidarIslamov]

​@@DigitBikes yes, it is discussed. Nonetheless it is only stated that this shock is designed similarly to forks but forks are not under so much side stress as this shock. Forks are only under stress during braking. All other time forces come only from left or right side during cornering and a conventional fork is very rigid in these directions because it has two legs which are connected at both ends. On the other side this shock is under continuous stress. I am not an engineer but it is the first time I see such a technical solution not only in a bike but in any mechanism. Any manufacturers claim that their products are durable because it is beneficial to do so but that is not always the truth and it is naive to blindly trust such claims before they are backed up with the test of time. This design is new and intriguing but I trust solutions proven by time.

[@DigitBikes]

@@AidarIslamov forks are under the MOST stress when braking, but there are rarely no stresses. If there were no bending/twisting/side loads, people would not be concerned about fork stiffness, people very much are concerned about that. I am an engineer, and have worked in the aerospace where some aircraft landing gear linkages have similarities to this arrangement, and in automotive where there are considerable side loads on the Macpherson struts in cars' suspensions. Trusting solutions proven by time is prudent, I’ve been testing this since 2018, which was enough time for me, but I understand that each person has their own standards for trust, and that others didn’t see my testing.

[@mtb_alan]

Rad to see Tim bring the Datum to full production. Looks sick!

[@jedielder7970]

That looks like an amazing bike/design. Simplicity. I guess there is no adjusting the rebound, pre-load, high low speed of the rear "shock," right? I figure this because I didn't see any adjusters and you guys didn't touch on the subject. Thanks for the video.

[@DigitBikes]

There are rebound and compression adjusters, next to the air fill valve under the top tube.

[@AlanChurchill]

Looks awesome! Makes sense to have les moving parts.... I hope this takes off and does really well. I'm curious about what might happen when you smack the lower linkage on a rock and what that is made of? Perhaps a bash guard on the non drive side would be a welcome addition?

[@DigitBikes]

The lower link is a solid lump of aluminum. I'd be more worried about the rock than the link.

[@AlanChurchill]

@@DigitBikes sounds good! 👍🏼

[@TeamCykelhold]

Super nice bike. And you can tell he knows suspension because he uses a mezzer pro.

[@andrec.136]

I like this idea. Almost looks like a hardtail.

[@EndoftheBlock7224]

Love interchangeable parts

[@Slink_twitch]

It's so clean it looks like a hardtail

[@robintaylor3860]

Smart design

[@thinkpadBentnoseTheBlind]

Reminds me of the 90's Boulder Startship

[@DigitBikes]

There are certainly similarities in the sillhouette. Watch at 15m19s for the big difference.

[@ricaaat]

best looking bike ive seen

[@DigitBikes]

Thank you.

[@Arithryka]

PSA for the engineering nerds like me: close-ups of the linkage in motion start at 14:56

[@dopeytripod]

very clean look

[@jeromecapundag9653]

That would look sick with intend forks😮

[@DigitBikes]

true story

[@letsgo_inc]

I'm a fan of the concept. Unfortunately, the tinkerer in me would probably be against riding a bike I couldn't swap shocks on. That said, it would be an ultra unique ride

[@DigitBikes]

Tinkerers are definately welcome, I'm one and that's what got me here. The shock can be stripped all the way to the shims with pretty normal tools and knowledge, you can tinker way more deliberately and precisely by custom tuning the valve stack than just throwing any old shock on any old frame. There's more information regarding this on my website and youtube channel if you look for "Integer Strut".

[@letsgo_inc]

@@DigitBikes Oh nice you replied. I get your point but I meant the inability to run a coil or the purely vain concept of having something different on there. However, thinking seriously on the coil issue, my first thought is the sheer size of the integer strut allows for a larger negative chamber and other optimizations that improve initial sensitivity. Plus there are fewer bearings and pivots throughout the design. I was hoping the review would comment on this. Do you think someone who generally prefers coil shocks could be happy on this?

[@DigitBikes]

@@letsgo_inc There's WAY more air, and WAY more oil, which both help. I have a friend who typically puts coils on his bikes, but says he prefers his Digit over his coil bikes.

[@celynjones4958]

Outstanding design and implementation. Hope it may get licenced once day to make it more available/affordable. WOOT

[@tagzedawg]

Yes please make an extra small!

[@DigitBikes]

What is your height please? And preferred reach?

[@tagzedawg]

@@DigitBikes 5'2", 390mm. I realize that's a shorter reach than today's bikes have (even for my height). It's the reach of my Pivot Mach 5.5 extra small and even they no longer offer a bike that small. I follow Lee McCormack's sizing recommendations (author of Mastering Mountain Bike Skills) for "rider area distance" and have found them to be excellent. He goes against the grain in a lot of ways, but backs it up with decades of experience. I highly recommend checking him out, if for no other reason than to see a different take on bike fit and mountain biking technique.

[@DigitBikes]

@@tagzedawg It'll be a while until I could get to making this, but if you're serious about it, please contact me through the website and I'll add it to the list. I agree that long 'modern geometry" has excluded too great a portion of the population.

[@Dills1212]

I had a yamaha DT 175 from 1993 that had the same shock in the top tube thing

[@ElmarBon]

I dont think it will be long till the big brands catch onto this.

[@JB-1138]

Sleek design. I like it.

[@booitsnick]

This man I feel has just completely changed the game😮😮😮😮

[@DigitBikes]

🤞🏻

[@booitsnick]

@@DigitBikes I’m buying one mark my words

[@Magoo71]

Thanks for the review! Seems like a great bike. I wonder how much crud gets into the concentric BB? Does it run a UDH? I ask because the new SRAM Transmission needs a UDH frame to be able to mount it... Thanks!

[@DigitBikes]

It does run UDH. I'll be showing a great looking bike with it at Sea Otter next week.

[@Magoo71]

@@DigitBikes I'll be there to check it out...

[@markgambrill]

Looks amazing and an engineering playground. Can only think that bottom bracket section would suffer in the UK. Any thoughts on this

[@DigitBikes]

I grew up in the UK, so this was definitely on my mind when designing this area. It's basically just two bottom brackets, each has two rows of bearings (8 rows in total) and is very well sealed (14 seals in total), the set on the link isn't subjected to cantileverd loads and is also shielded from contamination. Also the link has a sloped top surface so that water and dirt won't build up and pack in, the slope directs debris away from the drivetrain.

[@markgambrill]

@@DigitBikes I did notice the accent (with a California twang) so guessed you had UK origins. Thanks for the good explanation. I particularly like the slope to the link. Really nice touch. Any plans to bring the frames to the UK? If so it'll definitely be on my list as my current ride is approaching 10 years old.

[@DigitBikes]

@@markgambrill there are 2 in the UK already. My hope is to get more there. Right now availability and ramping up production are the challenge.

[@markgambrill]

@@DigitBikes cool thanks 👍

[@damacknificent151]

Like that it's made here in California. Hope it stays that way.

[@DigitBikes]

The only way it can stay this way is if people buy it, and let me know when doing so that local manufacturing is something they valued enough to factor into their decision.

[@Incip1]

@@DigitBikes I live in Africa so I do not value it;) make it in Taiwan and sell it to me cheaper if you want!

[@playingsongs]

best looking frame from small company that i seen so far. I like simplicity, shape and it looks like finished product not as some frames that's from some steel tubing and it looks like it was make in garage during weekend off. is this available in UK?

[@DigitBikes]

Thanks so much for saying so! There are frames in the UK already. I can't post links here on youtube, but if you email me from my website I can let you know how to get one to the UK.

[@BurnsRubber]

Using the crank/BB axle as a lower pivot is genius. As is the integrated struct/shock but TBD how that will perform. One concern is BB bearings tend to wear out frequently in my experience. Will they wear out even faster here?

[@DigitBikes]

They won't wear faster. It's basically just two bottom brackets, each has two rows of bearings (8 rows in total) and is very well sealed (14 seals in total), the set on the link isn't subjected to cantileverd loads and is also shielded from contamination. Also the link has a sloped top surface so that water and dirt won't build up and pack in, the slope directs debris away from the drivetrain.

[@BurnsRubber]

@@DigitBikes I misunderstood the design. Thought the rear pivot was a bushing that rides on the crank axle. Just Looked at the photos on your website but can’t see the design. Based on what you said, sounds like the pivot rides on a sleeve/bushing in the BB, but You’re saying the rear pivot is supported by a second set of bearings? Obviously you have to disassemble the rear pivot to service/change BB. You could replace pivot bearings at the same time if needed. Get you point about these bearing being well sealed and do not experience the cantilever loads that the BB sees from pedaling. If I am correct than the BB and rear pivot bearings are concentric but independent. The BB does see extra load from suspension forces but these are lower moment / torque than the cranks generate. It is indeed very cleaver. Well done.

[@infinitebirch]

I love the design of this bike. Does anyone have experience riding it? I'm curious about how it feels climbing... pedal bob etc

[@DigitBikes]

This is discussed in the video, summarized after 13’50”. There are also written reviews on the VitalMTB, NSMB, Pinkbike, MBAction websites.

[@waynesimpson2074]

What a salesman. The Englishman setting up his pitch in Americaneese; 3.11 ''...aloomnum...''🤣

[@eddieknight8392]

170 mm extra large 27.5 for the bigger hits and us bigger guys and im in....absolutely love the idea

[@DigitBikes]

The plan is to build out a full model line.

[@JJMilk]

Love the looks and the concept!! 🤩🙌🏼 Amazing stuff. Would consider if available where I live. 👍🏼

[@DigitBikes]

A few people outside of the US have bought these and arranged their own export/import through freight forwarding services. I'm sure when I have enough I'll start selling around the globe, but there simply aren't enough yet.

[@zagovalkodmitry4403]

The question should be: where's the VPP (or the IPP) and what are the anti-squat numbers

[@battistaverardi1240]

Interesting reminds me of the 90s elastomer shock. only problem would be a pain to maintain.

[@DigitBikes]

Maintenance is discussed in the video. I designed it for easy serviceability, knowing that I’d be the one maintaining it.

[@RollForever88]

I really like this bike. I think my wife might have an aneurysm if so spent that kind of money. I suppose I have been riding my Dirtbike less these days, maybe it could go haha

[@suchasreallife]

Would look super cool with an intend fork

[@servidig483]

This is the future