Where Should I Pull Funds From First In Retirement?

[@harveyquinton6303]

James you are the voice of response in a complicated world. Always awesome information.

[@cBadArsBiker1579]

Thank you for presenting a complex topic in easy to understand terms.

[@miel001]

I see you updated the video from 2 years ago. Thank you.

[@Jupe367]

This guy is so good.

[@howard6433]

For those with sufficient fixed income to support their needs, and are still below the 22% tax bracket: you should consider converting some IRA funds to a Roth IRA to take advantage of the lower 12% tax bracket. This will reduce the tax on your RMDs in the future.

[@tomowcaest.5999]

Yes, but for how long? Spend & tax then tax & spend!. All will change on 2026 !

[@rightwingprofessor1356]

Remember to consider the value of having Traditional IRA funds, as you age and need additional medical care. Since medical expenses are a primary expenses for senior Seniors, the tax deduction for medical expenses can offset the taxes on IRA distributions!

[@philsanderson7024]

My tax liability strategy is to limp across the finish line at 65 with a net worth either at zero or in negative territory. That should keep me firmly in the 10% income bracket and help me to avoid those pesky RMDs later on. Besides, as I've learned from Cousin Eddie - I don't know why they call that stuff hamburger helper. I does just fine by itself.

[@sandralindsey6270]

Excellent post! You have made the options very clear-thank you!

[@marycoopman6565]

Such vital info!! And for single people with expenses it gets very tricky because of how quickly the 22% tax comes on board.

[@danielmills3337]

Thank you so much for your videos. I'm learning a lot. I'm a US expat living in Japan, and I'm pretty close to early retirement.

[@Laura-kb5sr]

Your videos are so clear--thank you!

[@rick_vv7754]

Having diversified asset locations (qualified, non-qualified and Roth), provides more options from where to pull funds from each year while in retirement in order to implement more effective tax and IRMAA planning and strategies.

[@rickyaz8640]

This is as important as your investment allocation and way under-emphasized

[@DanielChai-ex3hu]

A financial planner is like a roadmap for your retirement funds. They help you decide where to pull from first, ensuring a smooth journey by strategically navigating which sources make the most sense for your financial goals.

[@markb8515]

Thanks James for the video! Once again, it was packed with great information.

[@IwasRetired]

James, you have a very calm, reasonable approach. I'm a DIY retiree and use a DIY Strategic Withdrawal Strategy and a three-bucket portfolio approach that incorporates many of these concepts. I've resisted many of the "rules of thumb" -- such as the 4% rule and the conventional order of operations -- because it always seemed to me that too many "rules of thumb" leads to an "all-thumbs" and clumsy approach to retirement.

[@rustydegeorge5726]

Very helpful information…thank you!!!

[@normanbasham4436]

Your videos help a lot of people, including me. They are well presented and educational. The thumbnail for this video is disturbing and I realize that it probably helps with clicks but I think it erodes from your brand that has differentiated itself from the ubiquitous fear raising click bait videos.

[@graemecowan2467]

Good job James, I am taking a lot of IRA money now because RMD will be quite large down the road. Yes paying that tax now bothers me. I also wonder if the FV of the taxes being paid now offsets the higher RMD in the future. James have you ever analyzed this scenario?

[@billruprecht7398]

I get that you get taxed on tax deffered accounts but how do you deal with the planning also of the capital gains on these withdrawals?

[@jeryzifield4090]

My taxable IRA income is out of control because of the rapid increase in value over the years in stock market. I am 75 years old and I have been paying RMD since I reached 72. Every year I withdraw the required amount from my taxable IRA account to meet the RMD obligations. I normally withdraw my full RMD amount at the beginning of each year, but the stock market is doing so well, by the time it reached the end of year, my IRA will swell back more than I took out from my taxable IRA account. This "vicious" cycle will never end (with my fingers crossed). I predicted my IRA account will keep swelling up more every year and never be able to spend down before I die. I even tried to rollover a portion of my IRA into Roth IRA every year to the maximum of my tax bracket. What else I can do?

[@JayRay9999]

To make sure you are taking advantage of the lower tax brackets, you can spend your taxable accounts and convert your Trad IRAs/401ks. To make sure you don't run out of money in your taxable accounts, keep most of it in equities and put your cash/bonds in your Trad IRAs/401ks. Equities in your taxable accounts and cash/bonds in your retirement accounts is the most tax efficient strategy.

[@jdial68]

Great video.. just absolutely love this to get conversations started on things I didn’t even realize. Thank you

[@andrewroth9175]

Number 1, if anyone has a sizable pretax account at 60 and retired. You should delay SS till 70. Spend down your pretax! Then your SS will not get double taxed.

[@PH-md8xp]

Agreed, but what is the definition of “sizable”?

[@martinguldnerAutisticSwanGuru]

For me 1) taxable brokerage account 2) Social Security benefits 3) distributions from Roth IRA/Roth 401k (other than inherited IRA with 7 years left I have no Traditional IRA/401k).

[@randolphh8005]

So you payed too much in tax in the past. You want to have at least a small amount of tax deferred money to fill the 0% bracket and probably the 10% bracket, unless you have a pension.

[@martinguldnerAutisticSwanGuru]

@@randolphh8005 I'm currently in the 12% tax bracket so I don't mind paying my tax up front and being tax-free when I pull out

[@johnh2812]

Another well explained session. Excellent!

[@BadPhD777]

Always AWESOME information James!! Thanks.

[@peteroreilly7105]

Fantastic insight presented clearly and succinctly. Thank you.

[@clbcl5]

I just did the math on this today when I finished my taxes. I already had a distribution in 23 from an IRA without any taxes owed. I increased it assuming no changes in 24 until I owed taxes. I also removed the w-2 and just left our S/S income and did the same thing in Ira distribution and found the number to take out before the 1st dollar owed in tax. I have an inherited Ira I have to take out and 7 years till the required rmd. I'm just going to take the maximum I can out and put into my brokerage.

[@rickyaz8640]

Just withhold from the Ira withdrawals. Something like 10% will keep you out of needing to pay quarterly taxes

[@M22Research]

Solid info

[@CTHou13]

Your videos are always so helpful. Thank you very much. I would like to hear more about disaster funds and how much I should have in reserves for things like air conditioners in my house that break down, roofs to get torn off from hurricanes, and some smaller items like refrigerators breaking or major car repairs. How do you balance cash on hand versus funds available for disaster planning?

[@tomowcaest.5999]

❤good concise explanation! Now..what about RMDs with a variance annuity AND an ira.. age 73-93? Or better yet, a video on laddered rmds!!😂

[@sueyoon4285]

Great info.. I'm curious if you have a strategy to minimize taxes inside those taxable accounts though. Although you already paid taxes on your taxable account, the earnings such as interest, capital gains, may be taxable , can you elaborate on strategies inside taxable accounts to be more tax efficient without compromising growth

[@onlywenilaugh6589]

Course long term capital gains could be zero tax is you keep income around 100K with standard deduction. So it wouldn't make sense to spend that down first either as I would consider it more right before Roth.

[@jmmysms]

Will retire at 65, this year. Will receive max SS for age 65. My plan is to draw down IRA to keep me below IIRMA the first few years to lessen large RMDs and higher IIRMA later. Brokerage account does kick off ST, LT cap gains and dividends that vary year to year. Will be a challenge to balance this. Maybe some Roth conversions when brokerage payments are low.

[@shawnbrennan7526]

The sooner you do the Roth conversions, the more time you have to recoup the tax hit. Talk to your advisor to run the scenarios, but CONSIDER not taking SS until after you’ve done your Roth conversions.

[@Steven-hk2wb]

If your IRA or 401k has its own tax brackets for long term capital gains, I don't see how this explanation makes sense. Only short term capital gains are taxed the same as income. What did I miss?

[@EvilGenius007]

FYI, I really appreciate this content and some of it I would love to share with my retired mother. However, she's a widow and because of her emotional response she's just not going to hear anything after you lay out that the baseline assumption is "married filing jointly." If you ever make a series of videos with single retirees as the baseline I might be able to get her to learn something from those.

[@jeanettebonf631]

Thank you

[@fprintf]

So are you saying the entirety of the $50K above the $60K income is taxed at 22%? That doesn't seem right since the 22% should only apply to the excess over the $94,300. But I might be misunderstanding the tax law here and need an education!!

[@bryanmurtagh202]

You are not missing anything. Only the excess over $94,300 is taxed at the 22% rate.

[@RS-jz2yu]

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[@amanitephalloide]

why are these conversation never present at HR meeting at all companies when they have meeting regarding employees benefits.

[@byronjacobson6651]

How about if you got little cash, on social security. Gotta all $ in ira & roth. Can u propose an example please.

[@michellem8284]

Question: To determine initial tax bracket, would you take the fixed income sources minus your standard deduction?

[@heidikamrath1951]

Thank you, James! Three years out from retiring and your videos are very helpful. Would I consider that annuities are included in “fixed income” and Whole Life insurance is included in “tax free accounts?”

[@shawnbrennan7526]

I’m not a pro, but…. Agree an annuity is “fixed income” like SS or a pension, UNLESS it has a limited payout (I.e. 20 years). I would consider any cash value in your Whole Life insurance policy to just be part of insurance or legacy, unless you intend to convert it into another insurance vehicle. I’m not aware of people able to use that cash value without terminating the policy, but perhaps you gave a hybrid of some sort.

[@pengmagno7395]

So at age 75 it would be financially wise to have a healthy chunk of money in a IRA for QCD, a brokerage account to possibly leave heirs and a Roth IRA for daily living 🤔🤔🤔

[@shawnbrennan7526]

While QCDs are specific to IRAs, you can give to charity from any vehicle. Of course, it’s easier to plan if you know exactly when you’ll die. ;)

[@Jack51971]

What happens if you put $50000 into a dividend paying stock in a Roth 401K. Through your employer? You reinvest the dividends for 5 years in the account. At retirement, you change that reinvest option to take the dividend and not reinvest that payment? Is that dividend payment taxable? So if I had $1 million in a Roth 401k with stocks and I decided to sell these stocks and buy dividend paying stocks only for getting another income stream from dividends....how would these dividends be taxed if any?😮

[@shawnbrennan7526]

Nothing coming out of a Roth is taxed per se.

[@davek4206]

Great advice but to apply it, I feel I have to create a spreadsheet, pull a lot of numbers and run a pivot. Is there some software that is available?

[@ericr2zz]

Gotta disagree with you, Jim. at 9:16 you state, "Your decision of where you should pull income from first should be driven by your tax situation". That's false. Many financial planners fall into this trap. Your decision should be based on how much money you get to keep. There's a difference. If you withdraw from a Roth IRA, that money could grow tax free for many years. It makes sense to look at the ramifications of taking money out of your Tax deferred accounts and its potential impact on how much money you get to keep over the course of your lifetime. Withdrawing from a Roth IRA could make sense. Basing decisions solely on taxes isn't always the best choice.

[@wilee.coyote5298]

4:07 taxable accounts like pensions, savings, CDs, SS, interests, dividends, then tax deferred, then tax free.

[@acon2834]

So I'm 66 , I have about $2m. Only about 80 k in taxable account, 100k in Roth. Recommendations?

[@shawnbrennan7526]

Go hire a trusted advisor instead of asking us yahoos on KZbin! ;)

[@Andocus1213]

Do roth conversions up to the level where you hit the 22% bracket

[@70qq]

🤘🏻

[@AdrianB7822]

Gains on taxable accounts also generate capital gains tax , he makes it sound like it's zero ?

[@tomowcaest.5999]

It can be zero...!!! When / if u die !!

[@timpierce7128]

First

[@Jack51971]

Trump tax cuts or Biden tax increases? Who ya gonna vote for?🤔

[@tomowcaest.5999]

Bernie!😂

[@lukehanson5320]

I'll vote for the one who's not a wannabe fascist dictator.

[@carolinecollins2441]

Taxes are reverting back to what they were priir to 2017, since the Trump tax cuts for businesses are permanent but the tax cuts for individuals were written to sunset after 2025. Has nothing to do with Biden.

[@mississippiapple1078]

I thought I don't get taxed once i retire and old 😢

[@tintinet]

Death and taxes- inevitable!

[@tomowcaest.5999]

Thank u spend n tax & tax n spend politician's!😢

[@tinashepherd61]

I really like your videos a lot. FYI when you point to upcoming videos they’re not on the screen 🥹 you’re doing a great job I learned more from you and an afternoon than I did trying to talk to four different financial advisors. They’re always trying to sell me some stupid annuity and I just wanna know how to do what you’ve been telling me to do I wish I could meet with you that would be awesome.

[@JenniferNiggemeier-c7l]

If I don't have a brokerage account, but $400K in Roth, does it make sense to use the Roth in order to do Roth conversions of 1M pretax at a lower tax rate? If I'm not going to spend the Roth other than for estate planning purposes, was Roth really such a great move? Can you show a case for a single person where you can actually spend Roth strategically during your lifetime to reduce taxes?

[@MILGEO]

I'm glad you have a You Tube channel since I haven't been able to download your Podcasts for some reason. Usually my favorite Podcasts! I think it's something with Google needing an update.

[@spinnetti]

Good stuff. I see there's lots to figure out. Based on this, seems like it would make sense to not save all pre-tax, but but mix with after tax to give more flexibility when you start to draw?

[@shawnbrennan7526]

Roth is almost always better, though he has other videos that discuss potential mixes.

[@Osborneloto]

Very nice video. Clear and articulate. I’m recently retired this is a constant riddle I’m trying to solve.

[@dalegg66]

We’re gonna spend the first 6 years using cash, my 401k, and my wife’s pension. I don’t want to use all cash because we need to show some income stream to qualify for healthcare programs that don’t require income/asset verifications. My wife’s pension isn’t quite enough. That’s where 401k comes in..just a little-Maybe 3%. I figure after the standard deduction it’s gonna look like we make nothing anyway on taxes. After 6 years we’ll add in my Pension, both of our Social Security and continue taking 401k dividends at 4%..it all begins in a year😊

[@DJohnson-od6oj]

I get you are a CFP but are you also a certified tax planner or CPA? Same with everyone in your firm?

[@timb6985]

Plus if you are a married couple and you let your traditional 401b grow crazy and one of the couple passes away soon after RMD starts, the surviving spouse might have a totally unruly tax bill. Much better to have the money in Roth or even in TAXABLE account because even in a taxable account, half of all the accumulated capital gains are wiped away due to Step-up in basis. I do have a question for you, though. If you have a taxable account and due to accumulated gains, you can't really do much alterations without incurring a large tax bill.. if the holdings within the taxable account generate say $30,000 of dividends and/or distributed gains, should you withdraw all those distributions rather than DRIP-ing them back into the holdings? I know this will reduce your compounding potential but you are already going to have to pay taxes on the distributions so does it make sense to re-invest them?

[@cruisinusa5110]

Great job professor!

[@williamrogers1219]

If a retiree can do their income taxes using a tax software application, they can plan the best places to take retirement income. For example, I run the following tax scenarios: Retired MFJ and Retired Single Survivor as retired single can easily move the surviving spouse to a higher tax bracket.

[@MichaelToub]

Great Video!

[@shawnbrennan7526]

Some good points, but your videos are much better when you have some comparison graphs to help us visualize the different strategies.

[@mwood411]

This is one of those strategies where it would be super helpful to show actual case study examples.

[@prebaned]

You lost me at, lets assume your expenses are $100K/year. Not what the US average worker makes a year, let alone needs for retirement.

[@shawnbrennan7526]

These videos aren’t really made for the average worker. But if you focus on the underlying principles he discusses in his videos, you’ll be well above average for net worth even if you aren’t taking in the cash.

[@brahmmauer7437]

Exactly. He has a tendency to give examples with unrealistic numbers.

[@Max-nt7ho]

It all depends on which state u retired to.

[@tankberserkererer]

He specifically said focus on the framework and strategy rather than the numbers he’s using.. he probably picked 100k because it’s an easy number to do math with in terms of percentages and what not.

[@ChrisWilliams5605LS]

@@brahmmauer7437 Do numbers do not matter. It is an example of the concept that is relevant. Said I have to explain this.