You didn't mention the MVP glow being far and away the brightest glow on the market.
@volitionsin96078 ай бұрын
Came here to say this. And Streamline, without the overmold, has solid options.
@rogerjones3328 ай бұрын
I concur. The MVP, Total Eclipse glow colors are the best, brightest, and longest lasting.
@evanstanek58388 ай бұрын
I've built half of my glow bag with MVP. Great glow. Kasta glow is also consistently outstanding. My newest fave is the recent Glo DD from Discmania, the glow is awesome and the disc flies really really well
@curtisridenour8 ай бұрын
@@evanstanek5838 what do you put with? I was thinking of getting an eclipse envy.
@BigJuice777 ай бұрын
@@evanstanek5838 "Consistently" Might not be the best word. I have a 2022 GrymX that has pretty bad glow. Maybe they improved though? I don't run a lot of Kasta
@ViJt-oq5nq8 ай бұрын
I throw a lot of MVP just cuz pretty much all their discs are flat, have smooth edges and good rigidity. Molds fly pretty consistent from run to run and flight doesn't vary too much between plastics. As a rec player it's nice to know what I'm buying is gonna do what it should
@derpderpin15688 ай бұрын
Really true for every brand. The people that claim massive differences in the same mold are the same people that can't throw the same shot twice in 10 tries.
@OvertPumkin8 ай бұрын
Mvp feels so good to forehand.
@serenityinsilence8 ай бұрын
I haven’t bought an mvp/axiom disc that matches what the flight numbers would suggest. They have all been consistently more overstable than I’d expect. It may come down to how flat the discs are, but they sure need to figure that part out.
@OvertPumkin8 ай бұрын
@serenityinsilence just means you throw at a different speed/rotation than they measure.
@alwolschleger72428 ай бұрын
@@serenityinsilence Flight numbers are a) a joke and b) different from ecosystem to ecosystem. Trilogy always way overstates their stability (there's no Stag ever made that's a -1/2!). MVP understates their stability. Innova invented flight numbers but their discs basically make their flight numbers a range.
@mikethomas54518 ай бұрын
Good video , especially for newer players trying to figure things out. This is a summary of the basic consensus opinion of the companies.
@birdatkinson18 ай бұрын
As for small companies, Doomsday Discs are pretty unique and super fun to throw.
@durtydan4208 ай бұрын
Agree. I throw the blackout and cataclysm alot.
@FinallyFastDotcom7 ай бұрын
I found them randomly a few weeks ago, they were my first discs so I can't compare a lot(and I'm terrible), but I've really enjoyed them so far and feel the quality is better solid.
@HansTheGeek8 ай бұрын
Lattitude royal / DD supreme is top of the line imho. Also MVP's artwork with multiple foil colors as well as their colors/swirls are killer!
@kroggee888 ай бұрын
Mvp and axiom alone have 69 (59 in production) molds Discraft 52 Innova 79 and people only use the same 7 molds
@MegaLaban123458 ай бұрын
Aviar, whale, aviarx3, pig, toro, roc, roc3, gator, jay, mako3, teebird, eagle, TL, leopard3, thunderbird, firebird, sexton firebird, tern, shryke, wraith, destroyer and Xcal all see play in professionals and casuals bags. 22 molds, with tons of people liking sharks, wombat3s, polecats, teebird3s, chargers, mambas, savants, novas, Rhynos, max’s and whatnot. 7 molds aint it.
@@MegaLaban12345 the good ones were classic roc cro viper sl teerex. Those are hard to find.
@cspunisher57748 ай бұрын
I think you were pretty spot on with these top companies. Would've liked to see Clash get a shout-out. I think they have a top 5 or better plastic & feel, although some of their molds are hard to get a hold of up til now. Also the Royal line from Lat 64 is a top plastic imo. Great video Trevor. 👍
@MrOBJECTIVEOBSERVER8 ай бұрын
best clash molds to try? I got a steady cookie coming
@cspunisher57748 ай бұрын
@@MrOBJECTIVEOBSERVER a Soda for a fairway, a Berry for a midrange & even though the Wild Honey is a 12 speed, slower arms can still get great flight & distance from it throwing at different angles.
@masonatkinson58848 ай бұрын
I love Thoughtspace and I’m glad you mentioned them at the end. Just wish a disc or two would have been featured but I get it you can’t be throwing all day. They’re discs feel so great and look amazing and funny enough I only bag one mvp disc right now but hope to try more soon.
@Blackenedwhiplash4 ай бұрын
Thoughtspace is amazing, my main drivers are Mantra and Construct, my go-to understable mid is Mana, and my go-to putting putter is the Muse
@asherbeaudin78118 ай бұрын
This was fun! It was good to see someone who has seen a lot of discs, molds, plastics, etc. to rate them against each other, and I mostly agree! I would love to see a similar video about a lot of the smaller and newer companies which are breaking onto the scene, even if they are manufactured by another mother company. I LOVE Clash and Mint, and I’d love to see companies like Doomsday and Lonestar on here
@jacobtyman37268 ай бұрын
A local shop has a library card type idea and I’ve tried out lots of prodigy discs. The a3 pa5 pa3 m4 x3 and x2 all have a home in my bag. Their plastic feels amazing as well.
@joeydupont76648 ай бұрын
(I’m partially bias being on their street team) but the 400 plastic for prodigy is the best plastic I’ve felt, perfect amount of flex & great grip. I think 90% of my bag is 400 or 400g.
@Sanfordtime8 ай бұрын
I love the new fractal plastic and color glow. I bought so many of the KJ PA3s in color glow and I will never switch from those putters
@BryceRogers_8 ай бұрын
Trevor, outstanding job on this video. Very judicious review and rating system, on top of a nice little history for each company. I’d love to see a part two of this where you dive into the “niche” manufacturer market. It’d be cool to see each of the attribute rankings, for companies such as: - Gateway - Legacy - Clash - RPM - Viking - Divergent - Finish Line - Elevation - Doomsday - Yikun And Prodiscus! A lot of those brands have been around for a long while - several of them longer than MVP.
@CornDogDG7 ай бұрын
The innova R pro pig is the most unique disc I’ve ever thrown. It is reliable, overstabl, and once it hits the ground it just stops on a dime. Amazing disc. I have a few other approach discs but this is a must have in my opinion. A solid overstable mid or zone type disc is a must have to pair with the pig just to have a slide in os disc because pig doesn’t slide at all. Which is lovely if you have the air space. I also bag a berg-x for forehands. The prodigy pa-5 rounds up my approach discs as the understabls e compliment to the berg-x.
@ronjones-69778 ай бұрын
I've been an Innova Boy for over 35 years and have all my slots filled (phrasing) with discs in various states of wear. But I've struggled with finding consistency in fairway drivers. I just don't have the time to break in 3 or 4 to have enough to practice with. I found the Arrow from Gateway for that "flat-to-flip and not burn over" slot. I also found a nice disc for longer anheizer shots that will still fight to stay fairly stable in the Oxygen by Element, a new company. And you can't go wrong with Prodigy's F7 for rollers. I gave up dicking with new putters and currently bag a beadless Aviar that's close to 30 years old. This old dog is always willing to learn new tricks.
@Naitsirk18 ай бұрын
Love it Trev, keep em coming!
@BigTpetty8 ай бұрын
Solid ratings Trev! Thanks for the vid!
@GoManGoDiscGolf-he5ho8 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video. Educational. I’m an Innova guy with some Discraft sprinkled in but I’ve been getting into Westside and MVP discs lately. I agree that Westside is often overlooked. I find their discs have great grip and glide well.
@alwolschleger72428 ай бұрын
I started with Innova like everyone else. My bag's purely MVP and Westside these days. MVP started bumping Innova molds long before Conrad even knew they existed, and I have enough Bears and Swords to start my own shop.
@GoManGoDiscGolf-he5ho7 ай бұрын
@@alwolschleger7242 you’re a little head of me on MVP and Westside but one day …
@danielbarrett60268 ай бұрын
I prefer small local innovative companies made in the USA.
@MegaLaban123458 ай бұрын
Shameful
@tadmckowski33487 ай бұрын
Great video! I think kastaplast K1 plastic is very unique. Even compared to the other house of discs plastic.
@yoda_bard_gaming17128 ай бұрын
I swear fission waves does have that effect that goes further. I can throw it 50ish ft further than any other distance driver that I have. As for the other molds I’ve tried from mvp, I can’t say that it has that effect lol. I think it’s just cuz the fission wave is understable and I love throwing on hyzer. For reference I normally throw 280-300 and the fission wave I can throw around 325-340ish
@derpderpin15688 ай бұрын
You can get effectively the same thing from any of them, even if the flight numbers vary a bit. Every needed bag slot can be filled with an absolutely viable disc in a variety of great plastics.
@PeteyGolfs8 ай бұрын
Started out with a Discmania starter set. Really decent set to begin with but I lost all the disc 😂. Now I’m throwing mainly Innova and Discraft. Have a lot of MVPs now as well, I find it doesn’t really matter what brand they all make good discs!!
@elisabethe80557 ай бұрын
Good job Trev! I agree with what you are saying.
@Jay-i3x3 ай бұрын
Wraith, work horse. Corvette, bomber. Force, beast. Zone, amazing. DD gaurd my favorite putter. Rival, basically a teebird but I prefer it. Dont care what brand.
@mikeyp36298 ай бұрын
You should check out Essential discs out of Michigan… they have their over stable approach called the honey and and under stable fairway called the oxygen…. Both great discs!!!!
@Wolfchaser696 ай бұрын
I've always thrown Innova, but I've noticed some sharp edges underneath the disc. That's why I'm here because I want to branch out. I was wondering if anyone else has noticed that as well. Great video btw
@SirFroth8 ай бұрын
Ever since I’ve started playing all I ever heard was prodigy was trash got my first pa3 and it’s now my favorite disc
@MegaLaban123458 ай бұрын
Not a good look
@Southeast-Pressure-LLC6 ай бұрын
I like them all . I throw more innova than anything else. I do have some latitude 64 and westside disc as well
@thomasveleba92617 ай бұрын
Axioms neutron plastic is my favorite feel, period. But in general, I just grab an Axiom/MVP disc and they feel at home in my hand
@seansimpson87588 ай бұрын
I just recently got a buzzz, not my favourite. It was the one from the Ice Bowl this year.
@Blackenedwhiplash4 ай бұрын
Hell yeah, Thought Space mention! I love them so much, great plastic, great molds, awesome artwork! Recently started throwing their Construct driver and it is fighting their Mantra for my favorite driver. Interesting to know MVP and Thought Space are connected, no wonder I also really like MVP Neutron plastic. MVP Inertia is also a driver I like a lot
@timevault33813 ай бұрын
Interesting, I like the looks and feel of Discraft.. I find they also have better names for the Discs than for example Innova and I don`t like the outer rim look from Mvp, though some of mvp stamps do look good but Discraft is more consistent.. I also need to take in consideration mainstream availability, reliability and pricing, that all being said I believe its Discraft for the win with no doubt..
@mikemikemikemikemikemeup7 ай бұрын
Thought space athletics is my number one disc golf brand. Don’t get me wrong I have a mixed bag. But thought Pace athletics is definitely overrepresented in my bag. I all of the companies you talked about here. But thought Pace athletics does really cool stuff with the art on their discs. They also have some really good discs like the Mana or the pathfinder.
@beveragist8 ай бұрын
love what you're doing on this channel
@CasualRelief8 ай бұрын
That AB color glow Teebird3 is a collector and my favorite run of any disc.
@soldieroftheway79797 ай бұрын
Ohh I have one of those, never really throw it cause I bought it for glow rounds. How much are people paying for them? Not that I’m gonna sell it
@leightaft77637 ай бұрын
Lat 64 royal and their cheaper medium plastic has the best feel to me. And always consistent molds.
@Oncelost215 ай бұрын
OG disc golf fanatics - Innova People with inheritance from Sweden - Kastaplast Solid competitors - Latitude 64 Love the sport for what it is - Discraft Slept on GIANT - DGA The people that love being dissipointed - Prodigy The true king pins - MVP The people drinking at the event most likely shirtless - Franklin The wealthy collector - Vibram The guy getting into the sport trying to buy the coolest looking discs - Streamline The guy who’s actively looking for his disc in the woods - Clash discs The guy who always throws his dx plastic water discs - Mint disc These last two were FOUL😂
@TeamVesper7 ай бұрын
so jealous of your chris dickerson tour series, mine came in the throw up pink 😢
@bellies10008 ай бұрын
Great information fro people interested in discgolf (even when they "re not playing the sport)!!
@user-dz6tx8tc1w7 ай бұрын
Prodigy D2 F whatever 9 5 -1 2 Prototype md1 Never liked any putter by them.. so i pick the colt over anything else
@durtydan4208 ай бұрын
I throw every brand. 😂. Got probably 12 different brands in my bag.
@doubleddd3278 ай бұрын
Love Lat64 but picked up the peppermint to fill a slot and it feels and flies so good
@hubterk8 ай бұрын
Trevor: MVP is newer and has a smaller lineup MVP: Has a lineup of 80 molds (some out of production) across their three in-house companies
@tikimurtaugh49198 ай бұрын
Old innova plastic is the best and it got pretty bad for a few years but I think the halo plastic really saved them
@cavitous98157 ай бұрын
Old, as in 94 and earlier... mid to late 90s was terribad. Hit a tree square and you made a taco!
@dakotatucker71558 ай бұрын
Love me some Westside
@danielhicks50317 ай бұрын
As a Discraft only thrower I think their biggest weakness is not having premium plastic in all their putters. I would love to throw challenger. Challenger OS and SS in ESP. That or not having an Athena OS yet
@wzywgwzywg7 ай бұрын
Agreed, the esp ringer gt is crazy underrated, and would be way a better stock plastic than jawbreaker, but they only run stuff like that for ledgestone. 😢
@jp39338 ай бұрын
As for a small company in Finland I just love Prodiscus Ultrium plastic
@anthonygames44518 ай бұрын
Make a video of manufactures who have the best putters, mids, fairways, drivers, utility discs
@truce118 ай бұрын
What kind of plastic would you like MVP/Axiom/Streamline to produce?
@BigJuice777 ай бұрын
House of discs isn't examined correctly my guy. House of discs OWNS Trilogy, Discmania and Kastaplast. Trilogy is still manufactured by trilogy with trilogy plastic, Discmania is manufactured independently and so is Kastaplast. House just owns these brands now, but their molds and plastics are unchanged outside of in house innovations.
@doublebogeyricky8 ай бұрын
You forgot to mention Streamline as part of MVP. Their discs are legit.
@RsPWhytee8 ай бұрын
When I first started in 2013 I used champion plastic starter pack. Then I found mvp and I’ve never turned back. MVP all day
@ReluctantAardvark8 ай бұрын
Innova, all over the World? Have you seen their international shipping? It costs more than the discs. Meanwhile, Latitude64 ship anywhere for 20 €/$ in less than 2 days.
@gabemelendez56018 ай бұрын
Trilogy FTW!
@alwolschleger72428 ай бұрын
MVP's a newer company in contrast to Discraft and Innova, both of which have been around since the '80s, but MVP's been around for 14 years already. To be fair, they really broke out when Conrad hit the Holy Shot. All in all, I appreciate your ratings and you justify them well. Personally, I'm not a fan of Innova plastic, but give me MVP's neutron or Westside's VIP and I'm there.
@avenstrobel38138 ай бұрын
Respect the grind brotha💯💯💯
@raveouscarlias44796 ай бұрын
Lat 64 is awesome for newer players or sub advanced!
@ErikZangron8 ай бұрын
MINT DISCS 🔥🏆
@ZacAndoe8 ай бұрын
Mint is made my MVP im pretty sure
@kevin117388 ай бұрын
Gateway discs! Underrated which is mind blowing since they've been around 94
@hoerauf0568 ай бұрын
You should try out the new orbit king!! Such a good disc
@Peilla8 ай бұрын
Nothing feels better than K1 and Royal.
@markfranciscy44647 ай бұрын
Prodigy is and always will be.
@tracyallen2478 ай бұрын
I thought you should have mentioned the most unique thing about prodigy disks, how easy it is to identify and compare them. Need a more stable driver than the D3? Move up to the D2. Beginners select the higher numbers, srtonger players the lower numbers. It is intuitive, but lacks aesthetics and character. Same can be said for Disk Mania?
@MegaLaban123458 ай бұрын
400 D2, cool name dude. Prodigy is miles below Discmania in personality, but they both blow big sausage.
@07coco8 ай бұрын
Are the AB Teebird3s the best feeling run of all time?
@ibanezrg74218 ай бұрын
Pretty much.
@jacobwitte5108 ай бұрын
Absolutely
@Gynan8 ай бұрын
The biggest thing I've learned transitioning from competitive (league) Ultimate to disc golf is that there aren't any great discs/companies, only great players. Fix your form, and any disc will do the job.
@nicholasnoah65298 ай бұрын
great video trev!
@benoitsouligny8638 ай бұрын
H7 from prodigy is my new long distance disc for my noodle arm
@rogerjones3328 ай бұрын
Another great video👍
@Gahmaz0z4 ай бұрын
I'm a Trilogy guy. Besides putters. I throw Mvp putters.
@mattrandall78368 ай бұрын
Nice video. I tend to agree with your sentiments.
@johnpuckett76538 ай бұрын
I love you trevor
@rageoid8 ай бұрын
Anyone ignoring Gateway is suppressing the pinnacle of their experience - start with Magic, a straight hovercraft of an approach. Then get spellbound with the Wizard. Well thought out presentation Trevor, enjoyed it - Foundation plus Gateway Wizard collab on tap, really...... you'll like it now, and love it later ! Unlimited Konnor cos-play on the Wizard.
@raidonbay7 ай бұрын
You didn't even mention the history of MVP and it's artists collaborations. If you go to MVP team page on their website, you will see a seperate bracket for their sponsored artists team. I'm not biased, but I'm an artists myself and this was important to me when I first noticed 10 years ago with Zam, Mike Inscho and Skulboy.
@raidonbay7 ай бұрын
Dude I laughed when you said "recently" in your breakdown. Their current and previous art director were 1st and 2nd place in an artist competition that they held in 2014.
@Hyzerguy8 ай бұрын
Gateway has some pretty sick molds, especially their new drivers
@BryceRogers_8 ай бұрын
Yeah he really didn’t give the smaller companies more than a glance. But tbf the video is gonna be about the top dogs because of their consistency
@bradthomas76158 ай бұрын
Guess you gotta do another vid talking smaller brands now
@ericulry47438 ай бұрын
Let's not forget the 10/10 glow from MVP!
@jii-ro70838 ай бұрын
I would not recommend Innova to anyone. You cant recommend a brand that makes discs that mostly needs to be modified before its in throwable condition. Obviously same goes for prodigy.
@luchaunderground68307 ай бұрын
No Clash? No Gateway?
@Bri7777 ай бұрын
Never added up the scores
@Braddley774 ай бұрын
I’m a brand loyal guy. Discraft is all that I bag with some Trash Panda stuff. Started with Innova but leaned more to Discraft. Love Dark Horse marketing…….go head and roast me lol
@billherrera63868 ай бұрын
Ah no love for Streamline. Probably the most slept on discs from MVP. TSA has the best artwork
@codypalko27458 ай бұрын
I have the stabilizer and it has become the approach disc over my zone. Also the jet is such an effortless disc to get distance with
@tdkempton8 ай бұрын
You rated the companies at the end and didn't show any graphics on screen. Huge miss.
@Justsobusy8 ай бұрын
Innova Katana!!! It’s their best driver
@baustin6127 ай бұрын
MVP > Innova > Discmania > West Side > Lattitude > Discraft > Dynamic
@slightod7 ай бұрын
Cale leviskas prodigy discs are money. Airborne series
@brackstonhildebrand50748 ай бұрын
Talk to me about gstar plastic!
@hello279957 ай бұрын
Personally I feel like innovas plastic feels like one of the worst to me, star is okay but esp feels better, champ is pretty good but lucid or c-line feels better. Don’t love their putting plastics either, just my opinion
@Hollyandkarma20118 ай бұрын
Clash discs are the best hands down wish the line up was a little fuller
@JDupe-s3p8 ай бұрын
Legacy is extremely underrated
@owenmcdonald58068 ай бұрын
Kastaplast please
@Big_C_Here8 ай бұрын
Nothing about finish line?!
@doctorray8928 ай бұрын
great vid but where discmania.
@doctorray8928 ай бұрын
nvm now i know
@joisle8 ай бұрын
The venom is actually a retooling of an old mold. I hate to be that guy lol
@amburger49638 ай бұрын
Nope I was wondering that also too
@MegaLaban123458 ай бұрын
It’s a brand new mold which takes the old name, and replaces the old venom. Not a retool of the old mold. Trevor is well aware of this fact, unlike you. You truly are ”that guy”. Clueless and overconfident.
@wzywgwzywg7 ай бұрын
Innova = classic plastic and molds, ages like a fine wine Discraft = old school molds and plastic Trilogy = buttery plastic, very domey & glidey MVP = high quality plastic, very flat & stable Prodigy = haven't thrown much...
@tylersatremetal7 ай бұрын
When mentioning MVP, you can’t leave out the diversity with their non-overmold lineup in Streamline. Still under that same umbrella and fill a few different gaps that the overmold doesn’t fill yet
@ZachHicks4208 ай бұрын
That old berg will fetch a lot of coin.
@QuasiHero8 ай бұрын
There was already 1 speeds with tons of glide way before the Glitch and Watt; MVP didn't innovate that, they just replicated discs people long forgot about.
@JosephYoder-tm7pj8 ай бұрын
What about Discmania? I think they are one of the top 5 manufacturers! And I think a lot of their plastics are a notch above the rest…
@dcus558 ай бұрын
Wait…it’s not an April Fools video?
@mashnastio8 ай бұрын
Gateway!
@benjaminhoff50048 ай бұрын
My humble ranking, no manufacter is close to perfect in my opinion. 1. Westside Discs 2. Innova, agree the rebrand was a miss, especially the Champion stock stamp. The survey gives me some hope though. 3. Streamline, MVP discs with better feel, wish they had a complete lineup though. 4. DGA, proline is a good stiffer plastic. 5. Discraft, ESP and Z get rock solid in the colder months. PMB line did greatly improve their lineup. Outside of the Malta. 6. Lone Star Discs, Alpha/Bravo feel great. Hard to find in stores. Love my Walker. 7. Dynamic- Better, more modern selection than Latitude across the lineup outside of $25 discs. Trespass feels awful though. 8. Lat64 9. Axiom 10. Kasta- I like the feel, just dont know what driver to get since I know they run flippy. 11. MVP- Axiom has better molds and colored rim is more fun. 12. Prodigy- Every time I go through the prodigy rack I struggle to find many discs that feel good.
@kahlaka54268 ай бұрын
Hit a 125ft birdie w an elasto tursas tonight. I absolutely love West Side Discs. Great Rankings.