Which Era Of Aircraft Can Destroy A 1980's UK Navy Convoy Most Efficiently? | DCS

[@douglasarthur2673]

You had me at ‘Cortana’. Her voice makes me melt !

[@WilfChadwick]

23:17 perfect 'vinegar stroke' bomb run.

[@LettingHellLooseGaming]

In reality I’m not sure if those warbirds would fair so well. Great video tho!

[@lohrtom]

Sea Dart was good in its day, but struggled with sea skimming missiles. It did shoot down a silkworm, but the silkworm has the RCS of a skyscraper. I talked to several Sea Cat techs in the 80, they all thought it was a real POS. SeaWolf replaced it and was extremely good, but limited range and only an 8 cell launcher. The 80s Royal Navy was pretty weak and whimpy. The RN has done a fabulous job of transforming that 80s fleet crap into a modern formidable fleet

[@tomriley5790]

I'd actually disagree - 12 T42s 3 Harrier Carriers T22s replacing the leadners the RN was very capable in the 1980s. Now there's only 6 Darings, the T23s are good designs but not all equiped with towed arrays. T26s aren't in service yet and will be good ships but there's only a handful of them being built. The Type 31 and 32 (which I think only exist because Boris messed up a speach) will frankly be embarrassing by modern standards.

[@LondonSteveLee]

Sea Wolf DIDN'T replace Sea Dart they were two different systems for different tasks, Sea Wolf was for point defence. Sea Dart was for area air defence, Mod 1 onwards Sea Dart was a formidable missile for its time. Unfortunately because of previous defence cuts the solid state upgrades to RADAR and Sea Dart hadn't happened by 1982 which cost us dearly. If Type 42 had 1022 RADAR and Mod 1 Sea Dart as it was supposed to have by 1982 - I doubt if the Argentinians would have got anywhere near us. We are making the same mistakes today with penny pinching on the Type 45s.

[@lohrtom]

@@LondonSteveLee I know. I said Sea Wolf replaces Sea Cat

[@lohrtom]

@@tomriley5790 can I interest you in 30 or so Littoral Combat Ships. UK can have them really cheap. If was up to me UK could just have them period. At least UK didn’t build and entire class of ships what couldn’t fight its ways out of a wet paper bag.

[@LondonSteveLee]

@@lohrtom Ah sorry - misread.

[@MTBScotland]

type 22 with seawolf in service all of the 1980's. Leanders were put to pasture not long after the falklands war.

[@WilfChadwick]

From 10:30 to the kamikaze hit was the best GR footage ever. If only the external view had continued to the hit into the ship, would have looked epic. lol, I paused it. YOU DID, AND IT WAS! Really nice.

[@edl653]

I suspect the Warbirds suffered less damage from bullets and air-burst shrapnel hits in the sim than what it would have suffered in a real-life battle.

[@KortanaDCS]

This is actually something we have noticed on a few of these, but absent a way of getting access to the logs for the damage model, we really haven't come up with a consistently repeatable way of testing it. Subjectively, it definitely feels like there is a split between how damage is modeled on the warbirds and on the jets.

[@paladamashkin8981]

If you do some research you can find it was quite common for pre jet age aircraft to take a large amount of punishment. The pilot, fuel, and engine were the only real way to reliably take them down. It was taught in training movies.

[@LondonSteveLee]

@@paladamashkin8981 Particularly fabric and wood planes like Hurricane where rounds, shrapnel and flak would often pass harmlessly though them. Fuel lines, control cables would be checked and patches glued over the holes and the planes would be back in service in no time. Whereas the metal Spitfire would have huge exit holes and structural damage caused by similar contact. Still robust by modern standards but more vulnerable than traditional designs. "Fabric" planes like Hurricane and Mosquito were obviously very susceptible to fire though!

[@jonathanstrong4812]

SINK THOSE FRIGGIN' FRIGATES PULEEZE SANK YOU!

[@exidy-yt]

Awesomely fun looking as always. I love how Cap calls every F-4 bomb run an 'Arclight'. Speaking of Operation Arclight, I believe B-52s are modelled in DCS, am I right? If so how about simulating some REAL Arclight-style runs in a mission? Imagine trying to bomb the Japanese Pearl Harbour fleet with an Arclight raid? I think that might be fun with the boys going up against the Zero-analogs while the AI BUFFS rain down hell. Alternately, I am certain someone has modelled the Yamato and Musashi by now. Arclight runs on the biggest battleships ever made? I know the tactic was futile in WW2, but the technology difference and bomb-load available to the far larger B-52s might make the difference. Would be interesting to see imo!

[@kizzmequik70four]

I remember they did an Arclight mission on the Tirpitz early last year.

[@Chef_PC]

I really want a P-38 in DCS.

[@99IronDuke]

Why no Sea Harrier fighters from the RN carrier? Also any Royal Navy 1980's Task Force would have had a couple of Type 42 destroyers with Seadart, etc, in addition to the frigates.

[@mixit2413]

yeah I was wondering why no type 42's and the carrier should really have at least 2 patrol air craft and 2 ready to launch

[@Davros-vi4qg]

Interesting, very, very interesting. Warbirds, proper jets and green button era planes. Boom time.

[@AJG81]

Loved the cockpit view from Cap in the F4, if it were any lower it'd need a bloody periscope! I love the gen 4 planes the most but my all time fave is never seen....the Panavia.

[@christophero55]

I also love the Tornado. It's a shame its not in the game.

[@archiewest6057]

Okay, so Cortana is a fantastic pilot but she also sounds like an artificial intelligence. It gets me every time.

[@Dr_Alan_Grant]

11:26 that kamikaze was pretty good.

[@dr.ryttmastarecctm6595]

_"Lead-nosed diesel fighter?"_ Nah, the F4 Phantom was America's proof that given enough thrust, even a brick can fly!

[@oldrustygaming3931]

Most Leander type ships were gone by early to mid 80's this fleet would of been more likely to by Type 21's Type 42's and the newer Type 22's

[@blazer666del]

Leanders were still around in the early 90s

[@bubblehead73]

My first ship HMS Jupiter was a batch 3A Leander, Exocet and sea wolf, paid off in 1992

[@Rover200Power]

This needs more Harrier.

[@jyralnadreth4442]

Seacat did have an IR Based Proximity fuze and a 18lb continuous rod warhead even in its original GWS-20 config

[@willwozniak2826]

Moneys a little tight fellas, I hope you can still put a few videos on here....love thise WW II planes!

[@dexlab7539]

“Kortana swinging the freakin’ ass” 🤣😂😂

[@djzoodude]

So I don't know if its in game, but a cool jet to add the 2nd/3rd Gen aircraft would be the A-6 Intruder. It served well into the 90s, because it was an extremely effective aircraft, but it was introduced during and flew in the Vietnam War. The dividing line between 3rd and 4th Gen seems to be Vietnam. 3rd Gen aircraft flew in Vietnam, 4th Gen were built using the lessons learned from Vietnam. Anyway, the A-6 is a much more capable attack aircraft than the A-4 Skyhawk. If it exists in game, it might provide a big boost to how successful the 2nd and 3rd Gen aircraft are. That group seems to pretty consistently do the worst.

[@reinhardtrossouw1879]

On a side note, I believe some updates to the Meteor missile in game will be in the works. Greece just spilled the beans on its range and speed. 200km (124miles) range and M4+.

[@grimreapers]

We currently ours set to 127miles(110NMi) and mach 4.

[@MM-io7pr]

Seacat living up to expectations

[@superflyguy4488]

With the Gen 4 its more the 'What Era of Weapon' rather than the era of aircraft. How about using unguided weapons for all three gens so its the delivery platform thats tested rather than the weapons themselves.

[@michaellawrence6677]

I love these types of mixed planes vs. Whatever.😂 great sims.

[@agustinf1372]

A4 and Dagger :)

[@Targetpractice1000]

Probably out of scope, but could have been interesting if the Invincible had a compliment of Sea Harriers

[@dennisrowley5685]

Yay Kortana

[@generallee011]

hey how come ed hasn`t put the barricade in place the carriers

[@timblack6422]

Outstanding!!

[@willwozniak2826]

The American's torpedoes were not the best at the time..lots of them didnt blow up on impact.

[@uberbaer6169]

Bell works🎉

[@tomsoki5738]

No Type 42 destroyer or Sea Harriers?

[@KortanaDCS]

Sadly, no type 42 yet. I considered adding the Harriers that we have in game, but their systems are very different from what was on the older FRS.1's.

[@josephschager365]

​@@KortanaDCS definitely would be nice to see Harriers. They were the primary air defense of these historical naval battle groups

[@jonathanstrong4812]

DIDNT INVITED FOR AFTERNOON TEA ONE LUMP OR TWO LUMPS HEH HEH OLD BEAN WHAT?

[@texasknight5175]

Just sitting here thinking what it be like IRL to be skimming the ocean blue with your beautiful human friends in very sexy machines...

[@jdickson1234]

A few times working in engineering we had to get a few guys instead. Know what a chainfall is? Very heavy valves to replace etc.

[@hmleao]

that's cool. how did you do that text updating?

[@patrickgomez4572]

Thanks!

[@grimreapers]

Thanks Patrick.

[@erikerice9068]

We would never call you knobs, at least I wouldn't.

[@hotfightinghistory9224]

Even as a viewington I found this video to have high pucker factor.

[@jdickson1234]

Missiles blowing each other up lol!. I hope that is just a sim thing.

[@CallumMahondraco1984]

What's that over lay in the top right? It looks cool and I'd love to use it in the missions I play with my mates

[@oliverduke1173]

3:06 Wow! 😉😂

[@jonsouth1545]

With the WW2 warbirds did you consider a high-low attack? A lot of the bombs never exploded due to being released too low Maybe if the P47s dive-bombed from altitude while the rest did the sea-level attack you would have more chance especially as you would divide the AA between the two threats.

[@BreakingWildGaming]

Not sure what DCS has, but what about WW2 aircraft torpedo attacks on modern vessels? All modern ships seem to have airborne defences, but what if a trusty old torp could sneak through.

[@odinisgod4577]

MORE VIDEOS NOW!! RIGHT NOW!! GET TO WORK OR YOUR FIRED CAP!! HURRY UP!!!!

[@andyshepherd5067]

shouldnt the 80's carrier have had a couple of time 42's riding shotgun

[@aaronosheaarchery]

Why is "Cwhizz" being said? It's C.I.W.S. Close In Weapons System. More specifically in this case - a Phalanx.

[@surters]

Where are all the machine gunners added after Falklands?

[@tonye8217]

What is Kortana's channel called?

[@jameschannel1208]

Before it starts I'm gonna bet the harriers are going to be the best.

[@Wolfe351]

in rd 1 I think one of the seacats went right thru a Mossie.....

[@grimreapers]

Well it is made from wood...

[@playanddisplay3636]

No F-105's??

[@haytorrock3312]

Seacat? Thats like being eaten by a sheep.

[@travisself7583]

Is Cortana an actual pilot?

[@Robloxeditsgreat]

Where is violet? Haven't heard her name in awhile.

[@the_beef4762]

cap that arc light left a lot to be desired lmao

[@grimreapers]

Yeh, bit late on the trigger...

[@SSgTDUD]

Yay

[@northernhardcore.7899]

When did the RN get the Vulcan Phalanx CIWS?

[@LondonSteveLee]

Initially in the mid 80s the type 22s and the carriers got the superior (to Phalanx) Dutch 30mm goalkeeper CIWS. Further down the road the RN gradually switched over to Phalanx due to the bolt on nature of the system and goalkeeper was retired with the ships it was fitted to.

[@jonathanstrong4812]

I THINK POST FALKLANDS AND MAKING A AEW&C WESTLAND SEA KING HELICOPTER WHICH WHO HAD A SMALL ECM CAPACITY WHICH WHO WAS REPLACED WITH THE BRAND NEW AGUSTA WESTLAND MERLIN AEW&C WHICH WHO WAS HAVING ACROWNEST AEW SYSTEM FOR THE NEW QES V|STOL F 35S

[@haytorrock3312]

Early UK 80's no good w/o Seawolf. if away from shore would have possibly been decisive.

[@jonathanstrong4812]

DURING THE 25TH OF MAY 1982 THE FERRANTI CAAIS FIRE CONTROL SYSTEM ABOARD TWO BROADSWORD CLASS FFG WHICH WHO WAS EQUIPPED THE TYPE 910 TYPE911 FOR THE TWO TYPE 22 WHICH WHO WAS GOALKEEPER FOR THE HERMES AND THE INVINCIBLE DURING THE CRUNCH TIME WHEN THE MFCS GAVE UP THE GHOST AND THE ENTIRE COMPUTER FIRE CONTROL WHICH WHO WOULD BE MANUAL RESET IN THE MFCS GWS 25 SEAWOLF

[@edvin_hook]

3rd comment from sweden

[@docauger2032]

what did you say about getting hit NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB

[@davidbirt4643]

Rumble is asking for a fucking credit card number. Is this right?

[@grimreapers]

Just ignore it.

[@jdickson1234]

So whom? is doing the briefing? Another woman kick ass pilot.

[@andyf4292]

seacat was rubbish

[@LondonSteveLee]

It was always a stop-gap system before something better could be developed.

[@mixit2413]

i think the carrier should as least have 2 patrol fighters and 2 on the deck ready for launch

[@aaalanwp]

Hi guys, by this time, some of our Leander Frigates were carrying Seawolf, a very efficient missile system, as fitted to the type 22's

[@KortanaDCS]

True, but sadly we don't have that upgrade available to us in DCS, despite having hulls that did receive the Seawolf historically.

[@aaalanwp]

do you not have any type 42 destroyers modeled, we had enough of them back then and the seawolf 22's were also about and in commision, I dont think you would have faired quite as well against a 80's carrier group, I dont deny you would have beaten it, but just not as cheaply

[@jyralnadreth4442]

HMS Andromeda was the only Exocet/Seawolf Leander in 1982 and she is often forgotten about but she was there in the Falklands protecting the Carriers when the HMS Broadsword and Brilliant had to go and help the struggling Type 42s with their Air Defence problems. HMS Penelope did have Seawolf too but was removed in the late 1970s after the trials were completed. Only Andromeda was in service ready for action by 1982 FYI :)

[@KortanaDCS]

@Jyral Nadreth Yep! Sadly, we do have the HMS Andromeda, but she only has the single quadruple Seacat system. We'll have to revisit this one at some point if we get a better variety of assets.

[@Sardaukar240888]

@@KortanaDCS I am sure if we ask Current Hill very, very nicely, he will oblige 😅

[@timbaskett6299]

Wish they had more Gen 1 Jets in DCS. It would be fun to see these senerios with the Me-262, Gloster Meteor, P-80, and P-84. As far as checking out Kortana's channel, I am already subscribed!!! 😄 various generation bombers through the ages, at some point, please?

[@KortanaDCS]

I mean, I can set something like that up with AI with us escorting them.

[@poodlemeister22314]

Damn, not gonna lie, watching those warbirds skim over the surface just makes you feel something...kortana's flying is something of beauty in that warbird Definitely need more warbird content

[@rogerupi999]

3rd viewer, all the way from Namibia😎

[@JimUSCM]

Love to see if someone could mod the Fritz X and torpedoes and try it with JU 88's or another torpedo bomber for the war birds

[@semajniomet981]

I'd like to see the Swordfish in the game.

[@VimyScout]

Hey Cap. I'm new to DCS still finding my feet. Wanted to say thanks for the wonderful A4 tutorials👍They're a big help 👌

[@grimreapers]

Pleasure

[@clangerbasher]

Shame there appears to be no Type 42 in DCS. Phalanx will give Leander some chance. Better than Sea Mouse (Cat).

[@MrJmpeezy]

Warbirds in stupid attacks are now my favorite GR segment. Comedy gold.

[@masterhighground3677]

Suggestion for this series: different eras vs. WW2 Bombing Raid/Luftwaffe at the Battle of Britain

[@lutfullahkarahanli]

Kortana never disappoints! Thanks for the entertainment Cap!

[@manjisaipoe517]

Thank you all for the fun, its a great day when I get to hear those warbirds roar!

[@petec1050]

Leander was more akin to a general purpose frigate, I suspect they are not in game but Type22 frigates and Type 42 air defence destroyers would of been the better choice for air defence. That being said both sea dart and sea wolf were somewhat unreliable in their early days as was highlighted during the falklands conflict. Sandy Woodwards excellent book “one hundred days” gives a really good account of naval / air warfare of the period.

[@Psychobolic77]

Predictions? Yes. One of you guys will crash, trying to take off. Never fails. LOL

[@neanderthor66]

May I suggest uploading to rumble first if you want to direct traffic there? I received the youtube notification of this upload, but thought I'd try watching over there. It wasn't up yet.

[@Mjones8383]

Are there Stuka dive bombers in DCS, if so why can't we see them by you guys. Those planes sound so sexy

[@mrsegagamecube6419]

I'd love to see some Skyraiders in these

[@c0ldyloxproductions324]

Literally the Korean and vietnam a10

[@clangerbasher]

The Mk 6 aren't working. IRL they are dual purpose mount. Perhaps somebody one dill make it work. It would give a whole extra layer of protection.

[@iampostcode]

It wouldn't be a 3rd Gen mission without Kortana in a Mirage.

[@gerryryan2302]

Surely they would have harriers patrolling ?

[@gabrielecipriani6798]

11:08 "Oh, sing with me, sing for the year Sing for the laughter, and sing for the tear Sing it with me, if it's just for today Maybe tomorrow, the good Lord will take you away"

[@steveturner3999]

Kortana flies rock steady.

[@gcoffey223]

The Tomcat is still one of the seciest planes on the planet

[@henrygibson9613]

Why no harriers on invincible?

[@AgiDaKinG]

Jets are cool and all but there's nothing like the sound of military prop planes flying past

[@c0ldyloxproductions324]

Question is the skyraider not in dcs yet? I know they announced it was coming, I’m not seeing it added to these events which is literally what it was designed to do, it was Vietnam’s and koreas a10 essentially and arguable was more affective

[@Gerald10284]

Looked like it was really fun for you guys playing but it was 34 minutes of hitting L to skip most of the nothing going on parts. Then we watched a bunch of missles hitting the ground for some reason. Sorry for my seemingly rude honest opinion.

[@edvin_hook]

video idea. argentina now wants to negotiate about the falkland island, could you do a video where argentina tries to take the island by force and the uk dont us diplomacy and makes a military respond.

[@MuhammadAli-255]

They only have a4es💀 now. Those are barely fly able, let alone able to strike Falkland. Their navy is stuck in 1982 and have no future plans to upgrade.

[@wildfire160]

@@MuhammadAli-255 I was shocked when GR did the video about Argentina/UK action over the Falklands a while ago...their airforce is truly pathetic

[@edvin_hook]

@@wildfire160 Muhammad Awan. I look t up now and it would just be a exuction from the brittish side,i didt actully look up which aircraft and shipps they use like a a-4 and ia 63 vs f-35 it's a british win. and thier ships ar like muhammad awan said thier navy is stuck in the 80s thier newest ship is from 2004 so german shps from the 80s vs type 45 its just the same as in the air.

[@MuhammadAli-255]

@@wildfire160 not really their fault, government is very corrupt and sanctions from U.K. make every western manufacturer stay away from argintina. China and Pakistan have offered Jeff as a fighter but again, the deal was is on hold because of the financial problems(government is withholding money)

[@grimreapers]

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[@alasdairwhyte6616]

Fairy Swordfish? just one of many ww2 torpedo bombers. And "the de Havilland DH.98 Mosquito was capable of carrying torpedoes during World War II. It was used by the Royal Air Force and other allied forces in a variety of roles, including as a bomber, fighter-bomber, reconnaissance aircraft, and anti-shipping aircraft. In the anti-shipping role, the Mosquito was equipped with a 18 inch (450mm) or 22 inch (550mm) torpedo, which it could carry externally underneath the fuselage or wings. The Mosquito's high speed and maneuverability made it an effective platform for attacking enemy ships and submarines."

[@jonathanstrong4812]

THE MOSQUITO WAS MADE FROM SOME GOOD OLD FASHION TREE WOOD AND I WAS AMAZED TO HEAR ABOUT THAT

[@marklichem]

Whats Cortana's KZbin channel called, I cant find it for some reason? ^^

[@ivanstepanovic1327]

No torpedoes with WW2 birds? Too bad...

[@willwozniak2826]

The Americans torpedoes did not explode upon impact til they corrected the issues.

[@haytorrock3312]

Simba we cant possibly look down whilst doing this we'll crash.

[@klafsen]

Some great camera shots/angles in this one!

[@yahnump]

at 6:33, looks like a scene from a Pixar movie

[@subjectc7505]

If I'm not mistaken, 3D printing for fighter jets is a thing? 3D printed warbirds sound's interesting.

[@mfreed40k]

Fly, learn the meaning of no.

[@mfreed40k]

Cap why not post to Rumble first to drive traffic? I still click on the videos there but I'm sure that's .000000001 whatever money you use, quarter ha'penny farthing or something.

[@grimreapers]

Rumble is still taking too long to process the videos. Not going to push it until they sort their processing times out.