Which eVTOL Aircraft to Buy? | Jetson ONE vs Opener’s BlackFly [Pivotal Helix]

Jetson ONE eVTOL Aircraft costs $92000 and, if you buy it, your order will be delivered in 2023. On the other hand, the long-awaited ultralight BlackFly Aircraft will hopefully be available to order at the beginning of 2022. These two extraordinary eVTOL aircraft fall into the ultralight category, which means that there is no pilot license required to fly them. Also, both single-seat eVTOLs will have a similar price tag. In this video, I will compare Jetson One and Opener’s Blackfly Aircraft, I will explain the main differences between the two eVTOL configurations and how they affect range and performance.
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[@filesopen6188]

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[@eVTOLinnovation]

@@filesopen6188 You can find it in Pixabay Music. Song name: Nameless

[@filesopen6188]

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[@GenBumbleBee]

nether cuz theres not going to come out. also a gas power airplane is much safer and will fly for so much longer then these jokes

[@alghazali9922]

For long triv i wil choose blackfly, for playing in the garden i will use jetson

[@TheToddFather1969]

The 20 minute flight time is a deal breaker for me, especially at that cost. This is one of those things you wait until the product improves. For me anyway.

[@Zero-wt7xf]

Going to be waiting a while, it’s the power source that’s the issue.

[@xela79]

Its the fact that batteries need improvement, and that... thats going to take a couple technological advancements

[@Blox117]

or the fact that it can fail and kill you?

[@Zero-wt7xf]

@@Blox117 it has a parachute system mate.

[@Blox117]

@@Zero-wt7xf stupid or just dumb?

[@pulsarecho1952]

Jetson One' stability during take off and landing seem like a considerable advantage.

[@nerdindaherd5907]

Agreed. Not very keen on wobble and unbalanced movements when my life and passengers lives are on the line. I seek something sturdy and predictable, not landing on a rounded bowl.🤦🏻

[@Repomam2000]

Yeah, but can it autorotate?

[@savaronsw6596]

@@Repomam2000 It can autofall

[@gzb4l421]

thats true.. and it looks better also..

[@rockethead7]

Well, ok, but, I calculate the flight time to be 2-4 minutes, and then the batteries are dead. The only way I can get my math to come anywhere near 20 minutes is when there's nobody onboard, and they just fly it remote controlled. And, someone in their comments said that they called the company, who said that the flight time is 3 minutes with an adult male pilot. So, yeah, better takeoffs and landings, alright. But, how much would you pay for that kind of flight time?

[@davidminer7233]

I like the Jetson because of its compact design, the better stability on the ground & its profile whilst flying forward. It appears more manageable & easier to prepare for flight plus pack-up when finished for the day. The current price puts it beyond a recreational tool for most enthusiasts. Wish I was rich & could simply order one.

[@KCJbomberFTW]

Just here to remind people we live in the future :)

[@lienfafasporthd.commatchen9549]

He oui 😢😢

[@Zoza15]

A lot of technological groundbreaking stuff is happening right now. What a time to be alive!.

[@MrMjolnir69]

Especially Geo engineering potential. Look up

[@glbernini0]

I hope both these companies sell a ton of these aircraft! Hopefully success will lead to even more options!!

[@anthonyspadafora1384]

They won't There are dozens of small inexpensive aircraft available right now. Most people don't fly because of fear and this won't change because they are electric.

[@alanploetz7100]

I suspect joystick control will draw in a few gamers (with tru$t fund$) that other ultralights that require actual flying skills don't currently attract.

[@Lousasshol]

Couldn’t pay me enough to get into a small aircraft

[@toddcooper2563]

True. Not to mention competition is healthy, not just for the consumer, but also for the manufacturer(s).

[@Gargamoth]

We need more options 👍

[@SANTIAGOHISPANIORUM]

Black fly can land in water has a canopy to protect you from rain, has more engines in case of engine failure. I would buy black fly.

[@TheTruthCalls]

Actually they both have 8 motors. Jetson has two motors at each corner for redundancy and can fly if one fails.

[@SANTIAGOHISPANIORUM]

@@TheTruthCalls That is very interesting. Thank you for the piece of information.

[@TheTruthCalls]

@@SANTIAGOHISPANIORUM You're welcome. I just recently learned about it myself. I knew they touted redundant motors but it wasn't clear to me how it could fly if they lost all lift from one corner. Then someone mentioned it, I took a closer look and sure enough...

[@polymathperspective]

I’m all for the Jetson One. it’s the perfect tool to get places quickly. It would be nice if it could be Charged portably so you could land in all sorts of places and take off again. Let it charge in some fashion and take off again.

[@Darkness-ie2yl]

i foresee there will be battery swap depots all over the country. electric is about to explode

[@Darkness-ie2yl]

@Michael Hill are you? it will pass

[@Darkness-ie2yl]

@Michael Hill wrong

[@Darkness-ie2yl]

@Michael Hill cute rant. must be lonely. i guess you want us to think you went to MIT but only dropouts spend time trolling people on youtube. muted now. bye.

[@rockethead7]

I've done the math on the Jetson, based on the batteries they say they use, the weight, and the known efficiency of those types of rotors. I calculate 2-4 minutes of flight time, depending on the weight of the pilot. And, someone in their video comments said he called the company themselves, and that they told him that it's 3 minutes with an adult male pilot, which is right smack in the middle of my calculations. The only way I can calculate anywhere near a 20 minute flight time is if nobody is onboard, and they are just using it in remote controlled drone mode, which they do show as an option, so, I believe that's why they think they can claim 20 minutes. But, in reality, I don't think you're getting anywhere near 20 minutes with an actual person onboard. They do have a cult following, though, which rejects math, and just blindly believes any claim they see. And, that's fine... if only the company would actually demonstrate it to the public... or even maybe show an actual uncut video. But, they don't. Every video on their channel is taken in front of nobody in the public, and is filled with tons of jump-cuts and editing. Since the Wright brothers, the way new aircraft are introduced to the world is to publicly display them at air shows, for everything from little 1 person craft, all the way up to jumbo airliners. But, not with these guys. Nope. They make private videos with no public audience, edit them, make a claim that it can fly for 20 minutes (despite the self-contradicting math), and even claim there's a parachute on that thing (where?). Yet, the cult follows them anyway.

[@TaylorHaubrich]

If they'd get the Jetson up to 30 minutes flight time and the price down to $50,000.

[@Holret]

Thats still too much for too little. Give us1-2 hour flight time for 30k and the idea will for sure take off.

[@walthodgson5780]

Early adopters get to pay for scaling costs. Improved battery tech in coming that will improve flight time and lower cost.

[@dzikieswinie]

Definitely Jetson -> smaller, lighter, easy to transport and take offs are more natural and the the pilot view is more panoramic. Opener is like a small plane.

[@almasysephirot4996]

Agreed.

[@balla_icee8145]

Apparently it will only fly for about 3-4 mins with the weight of the craft.battery,and pilot depending on weight it won’t nearly reach 20 minutes. Look at the comments above me they explained it

[@fabsmaster5309]

Jetson seems like it would be more useful for people. You can put it in your garage or the back of your truck and just wheel it out and take off. With BlackFly, you have to put it in a trailer, haul it out to some location with enough room to set up, assemble it for 30 minutes, and then you can take off. If I lived on a farm, maybe BlackFly would make sense, but both aircraft give you around 20 minutes of flight time so you won't be able to go any useful distance out in the country.

[@Blox117]

it seems more likely to be a scam than anything

[@FazeParticles]

@@Blox117 most likely.

[@SKYLIMI]

@@Blox117 🤣🤣🤣You envy 🤣🤣🤣

[@celeridad6972]

@@SKYLIMI I save my faith for the Church, I will believe these vehicles when they are being used everyday

[@rockethead7]

Well, I won't speak about BlackFly, because I don't know their numbers. But, for Jetson, I do. I've done the math, based on the batteries they say they use, the weight, and the known efficiency of those types of rotors. I calculate 2-4 minutes of flight time, depending on the weight of the pilot. I calculate that it's about 2 minutes with a 200 pound pilot, and about 4 minutes with a tiny pilot. And, someone in their video comments said he called the company themselves, and that they told him that it's 3 minutes with an adult male pilot, which is right smack in the middle of my calculations. The only way I can calculate anywhere near a 20 minute flight time is if nobody is onboard, and they are just using it in remote controlled drone mode.

[@nerdindaherd5907]

I choose the Jetson ONE. I just wish it had a closed cabin for protection against inclement weather.

[@dhjn4214]

that's because of added weight

[@Epsyk]

The jetson looks more practical due to its size and stability but we have to wait for better battery tech. 20 mins isn’t enough.

[@rockethead7]

Well, then you're in for a real shocker if you do the math. I've done the math, based on the batteries they say they use, the weight, and the known efficiency of those types of rotors. I calculate 2-4 minutes of flight time, depending on the weight of the pilot. I calculate that it's about 2 minutes with a 200 pound pilot, and about 4 minutes with a tiny pilot. And, someone in their video comments said he called the company themselves, and that they told him that it's 3 minutes with an adult male pilot, which is right smack in the middle of my calculations. The only way I can calculate anywhere near a 20 minute flight time is if nobody is onboard, and they are just using it in remote controlled drone mode (which IS an option).

[@Epsyk]

@@rockethead7 Well that‘s a bummer

[@almasysephirot4996]

The jetson is a no brainer. With the right price, it’s gonna be like buying a zippy bike like Y2K

[@rockethead7]

@@almasysephirot4996 Well, you got the first sentence correct anyway.

[@tngtacticalmiata1219]

If the Black Fly could be given more wing area or even a lifting body it would greatly extend its range and make it potentially a useful commuter craft.

[@LarsLarsen77]

Yeah, I would rather have a flying wing design.

[@jypsridic]

when we account for future improvements in technology all around I think the blackfly idea will take dominance. Cruise efficiency and closed cab are both big draws.

[@garykeenan9897]

It wouldn't take much to fit a cab or screens over the Jetson frame.

[@gwzipper1]

Now, I thought black fly made a mistake not making theirs open-air. To each their own, I suppose.

[@jypsridic]

@@gwzipper1 are there more cars or motorcycles on the road? You're thinking of this as a toy, I'm thinking of dropping the kids off at school and picking up the groceries

[@gwzipper1]

@@jypsridic these are both toys. Neither has the weight carrying capacity for more than a bag of potato chips, let alone kids. When battery technology catches up (it'll be a long time) neither of these will be your go-to grocery getter.

[@gwzipper1]

@@garykeenan9897 just weight. Jetson carries 200 lbs. Put a 20 lb cab on that, and now it can only carry 180 lbs.

[@Bianchi77]

Nice video, thank you for sharing it with us :)

[@Norseman311]

Digging the Jetson more for my application.

[@frankyflowers]

you are going to fly for 60 second clips and then land and edit?

[@TaylorHaubrich]

What is your application?

[@Norseman311]

@@TaylorHaubrich farm land

[@Norseman311]

@@frankyflowers why? Has 20 min flight time

[@frankyflowers]

@@Norseman311 that's what they say but haven't proven that time.

[@jimbintz206]

Jetson has the brand name, BlackFly has the better aerodynamics. Both companies should merge with Ilium, synthesize the multicopter design with some lift surfaces, and lobby to create a no-license class above ultra-lite for consumer aviation. Make the craft look more like the cartoon version, for popular appeal.

[@GudieveNing]

It’s coming, just not from that lot. Watch this space. :)

[@notsureyou]

To be honest, seeing how some people drive their cars, if this becomes affordable there should be a licence or at the very least a test that people are required to pass. But good luck enforcing that (imagining Police jetsons pulling people over to check their licence 😂)

[@andytaylor1588]

Wings make a huge difference! I will be buying that can glide in case of an issue. Next, a tiny thorium reactor to power the craft.

[@Savan_Triveda]

Blackfly would be my chosen for sure.

[@CharlesVanNoland]

Personally more inclined to believe that BlackFly is potentially safer as well as having a longer travel distance. Wings are just better for efficiency and we need all we can get with electric battery powered aircraft, even if we achieve 2x battery capacity in our lifetimes it's really not going to hold a candle to combustible fuels in terms of energy storage density so we need all the optimizations we can get.

[@jovanleon7]

The best and most dense power source coming in the near future for evtol won't be batteries, it would be in the form of hydrogen fuel cell.

[@renelaizer6518]

Just wait... Someone will come out with a hybrid. Trick is keeping it under the weight limit for ultralight that is untill start crashing them and the FAA changes the rules...

[@CharlesVanNoland]

@@jovanleon7 I was thinking this as well. Hydrogen has a much higher energy density than fuels and especially electrical power storage methods like rechargeable batteries.

[@jimj2683]

@@jovanleon7 Or e-fuels. CO2 neutral gasoline.

[@jimj2683]

​@@CharlesVanNoland Not in practice because you have to take into consideration the heavy hydrogen tanks and the heavy fuel cells. In practice gasoline gives 3-4x the range of hydrogen.

[@michaelsparks3573]

I'd go with the Black Fly because of its ability for long cruise time and it is more cost friendly. It also appears to be safer and that means a lot for me because I'd be older than most of the Black Fly pilots.

[@richiebricker]

I think the Jetson flies for 20 mins and Blackfly only 25 mins

[@aaronmichaelmusic_]

It's only 5 mins more

[@alanploetz7100]

I would have liked to see a time-distance comparison. Based on the narration, even though flight time is only 5 mins (25%) more, I take it the Black Fly could cover considerably more distance.

[@TheTruthCalls]

@@alanploetz7100 Both fly at the same speed, 63 MPH. Let's say it's a mile per minute. That means the Jetson can cover 20 miles and the Black Fly 25.

[@alanploetz7100]

@@TheTruthCalls you hit on what I was wondering. While part 103 ultralights are restricted to a top speed of 63 mph, can they both fly at a sustained top speed, and for how long? I read in Canada the Black Fly is reported to be capable of 80 mph, but is governed to the lower speed to comply with U.S. restrictions. Also having read claims for 30, and another for even as much as 40 mile range for the Black Fly (I think Opener claims 30). That suggests greater aerodynamic efficiency over the Jetson.

[@SHerbeck91]

Jetson One for sure, I am really into drones, and the jetson one is the closest to a drone.

[@philodox7599]

This has been one of my biggest dilemmas, what aircraft to buy…… lol. Nice video.

[@Mr.Unbreakable83]

Straight up if I had the money I would buy the Jetson one but I would want them to customize it to have a way longer flight time so that I could fly and land it around all my favorite spots in the country that I've never gotten to see.

[@mattjohnson7835]

I like the Jetson One for playing around, but the Opener might be a better commuter option.

[@KCJbomberFTW]

We live in the future :)

[@GeoBBB123]

I prefer the Jetson for sure despite its limitations. It would provide the greater sense of 'flying unaided', is far more compact and therefore more easily stored and seems easier to control (including landing the thing). Its size is far more practical.

[@almasysephirot4996]

Yeah, even if regulation kicks in (it will) you would be able to “drive” a Jetson hovering over in-city public roads, and potentially get an exemption to take over instead of around the cars without still having to get a full pilot license. The other one, for sure, will eventually require a license other than on some auto-pilot tech, but then all the fun is out the window.

[@rubenhernandez4394]

I hope more companies get into this for competition. And investing into this would be real beneficial.

[@Tpott106]

I haven't seen anything yet on either Jetson or Blackfly that speaks about engine failure and emergency landings! So important and yet left out!

[@eVieshopcom]

The enclosed cabin of the Blackfly would probably be big plus in all weather when cruising in my opinion and also its aquatic ability to land on water and float. A combo of the two would be brilliant keeping the weight down but accommodating 2 people! This is the Way!

[@tyreewadsworth1593]

If you want a two person ultra light craft the battery life would be like 10 mins max.

[@MyTube4Utoo]

There's no telling where this technology will be in 10 years! As much as I want something *NOW,* I think I'll wait another couple of years and see what's available. The Jetson ONE would most likely be my choice of these two, but I'd like to own either one.

[@slashdotism]

The biggest difference will be in battery technology. Triple the power to weight ratio of a battery with Solid State Batteries and you're cooking.

[@Holret]

I suspect it will be very stagnant. These 2 planes will not take off, so to speak. The technology is too primitive and the prices too high, even the rich would skip on this.

[@VonSpud]

Both look good, do like the covered cockpit of the Blackfly. Like the control aspect of Jetson. Not sure how Wind affects either of these. Think Blackfly may be more influenced by gusts. I'd like either one.

[@kazimir8086]

Thanks for including the metric system

[@GrungeUA]

For this stuff in future need: 1) Graphene batteries. 2) Much-much stronger materials for high G.

[@patrickcarleton3924]

Blackfly seems to check most of the boxes that consumers would be looking for, with the exception of having to dismantle to move it anywhere. I'd still buy the Blackfly and store it in a hanger.

[@audio_poetry]

Problem is.. not everyone has a hangar

[@patrickcarleton3924]

@@audio_poetryagreed. Not everyone would have access, but I'm referring to a local municipal airport, or private, that rents out hanger space.

[@cbjr3371]

Having take off and landing advantage is huge. I'm pretty sure in aviation most crashes happen during take off or landing. I'd go with Jetson One hands down.

[@janines4314]

very cool stuff :D Like this

[@cornpowa]

I wish I had the money for either one. I only live ten min from my work in a very rural area and either would be great! I'd love to fly above the fields or the river into work, charge it back up during my shift and fly home afterwards. Either evtol would be a gas saver and a blast on the weekend. The Jetson looks "cooler" and the smaller storage size is a plus, but the lower cost of the blackfly, the enclosed cockpit, the slightly longer flight time, and the wings (I assume they give you the possible of gliding some if something happens) would make it the one I'd pick.

[@rockethead7]

Well, I think 10 minutes is much too far, at least for the Jetson. I calculated the Jetson based upon the specifications they give, and the known efficiency of rotors in that configuration, and I came up with 2-4 minutes of flight time. Someone in the comments said he called the company, who told him it was 3 minutes with an adult male pilot. And, I just do not trust their 20 minute claim one bit. I think if it could do 20 minutes, despite all math indicating otherwise, they'd have demonstrated it by now. But, they haven't. "20 minutes" just remains an unsubstantiated claim on a website. So, bottom line: you'll be making 3 stops for recharges on your way to work. An hour or two to charge each stop... you can take it from there.

[@Half_Gassed]

With it being fully carbon and with some of its features like being able to be disassembled and put into a small trailer for taking back home. The price is going to be I'll bet similar if not more than the latter, but we can only wait and see

[@samandaury]

Blackfly for me. It's safety features. Parachute option, floatation and more protected blades does it for me

[@southpoint5696]

Sunny, windy and rainy days I will go for BlackFly.

[@jgmdsn667]

The ability to land and take off from both land and water with the BlackFly would steer me towards purchasing the BF. We'll see once they both come to market.

[@garybrownlee1603]

If you need a production site, in the Elmira NY area there is the now closed Sikorsky helicopter plant

[@maenfred]

Jetson looks very smart - I like the simple design but price difference is huege! Both ones are really great!!

[@dedawiawi2201]

We have started designing a two-seat drone powered by hydraulic motors. The thrust is 700 kg, the flight time is limited only by the weight of the fuel. So far, this is the best energy density.

[@phillippierce5974]

I'd like to have a look at it and build one.

[@shashidharmurthy2226]

Just 20 minutes flight time is mainly non practical, you should have added why these crafts don't fly higher than 20', Jetsons certainly add more safety systems while flying,then my choice is JETSONS 👽

[@Hale-Bopp]

These are amazing inventions. I have never thought that I would see Star Wars like aircraft in real life.

[@milli707]

I would love to have either one!

[@LastCallAgain]

These two concepts will one day be looked back upon the way we look back at the Model T today. It should also be interesting to see how much more the government digs their claws into regulation, particularly if vehicles like BlackFly indeed come into an affordable-to-the-general-public price range. Personally I like the BlackFly but I think the general public would be turned off by the awkward take off and landing stance (i.e. lack of landing/taxiing gear)

[@notsureyou]

Given how I see some people drive their car, a bit of government regulation would be a good thing :-)

[@LastCallAgain]

@@notsureyou Indeed! Films of early 1900's traffic insanity certainly come to mind

[@davidzapasnik9067]

I would gladly accept a Ford Model T today. I don't mean as a valuable collectible, but rather as a daily vehicle. It was superbly inexpensive, efficient, and sturdy (albeit cold and not particularly safe regarding crashes, nor environmentally friendly...probably much like the Jetson ONE).

[@slartibartfast7921]

I like that both exist, I could also see them being sold to different demographics.

[@deeplake6022]

Love the Blackfly!

[@jdkoz98]

Ima need a huge air bag that completely wraps me up if I’m getting in that

[@davebrownentertainment7191]

Battery technology has improved significantly, creating batteries that last way longer, are lighter, and cheaper to manufacture. Drone technology has come a long way in terms of control, stability, and reliability. My vote is for Jetson ONE. I'd totally fly one, if I wasn't 250 lbs. Lol.

[@artisteric]

290 here already trying to lose weight lol

[@dandieman7470]

Jetson

[@DrBill-zv5dx]

I’m currently flying my 12,000 rpm V- twin 120 hp lawnmower.. works well enough for now . Only cost me $8500. I had it up to 21,000 feet at 210 mph.

[@timscroggins2345]

Great job

[@vladyslav9587]

I would buy a Jetson.

[@wallypaige8496]

WHY. CHECK OUT THE MOSQUITO HELICOPTER. 100 % BETTER CHEAPER AND SAFER. NO LICENSE

[@jasona8613]

I’d buy the Blackfly over the Jetson because of the longer flight time. It’s likely the Blackfly price will be $60k, $30k less than Jetson. When we get a better battery in the future, it will be great to have a 2 hour flight time on a single charge. The 5 to 25 minute range is terrible.

[@tylerdurden4006]

Wait untit you find out what kinda toxins go into those batteries and how bad they are for the earth...

[@huzcer]

When is the blackfly actually going to be available though,,,? It's not a real product yet because it can't be obtained.

[@TopDogRL]

You can't just say "when we get a better battery it will have a 2 hour flight time" as if science is just gonna quadruple battery life anytime soon (if ever).

[@express1transportation993]

Can’t wait to own one ‼️jetson 💯

[@eVieshopcom]

Just waiting for the Jetson 2 with a pair of smaller blackfly wings with cruising rotors attached!

[@ChainsawFPV]

Ill fly either!! Where do I sign up?

[@rob102865]

At the end of the day, its the "flying" experience that matters... more than the price. Jetson One for me, it is!

[@kellymoses8566]

I can't decide so I will just buy both!

[@shizane101]

I like the Jetson One. What are the laws regarding where this can be flown in the US? Can you fly these in your neighborhood?

[@plasmaglowmusic1655]

Increase the battery life!! double or triple them up!! fly time is important!!

[@Bob_Adkins]

20 minutes of noisy, rough, highly intense flight is about my limit.

[@8628rudeboy]

I would love a two seater for when you want to take someone somewhere or just bee the cool dad that fetches your kid from school.

[@johnw65]

BRAVO....! Both aircraft have their pros and cons. Bootomline will be price and availability

[@JustinTime978]

I'm equally excited about both and would buy both if I could.

[@Darignobullseye]

Both are great ideas but I can only see them as entertainment or recreation. Not future travel vehicles I get excited about having a lot of fun flying the Jetson. I would have to wait for lower prices but the Jetson would be my choice.

[@bjondersson]

Why wouldn’t it do for commuting? I have 35km to work and there’s roof top parking. The non-US version BlackFly would easily take me to work with it’s advertised 65 km range (40+ miles). There I could recharge it, where there’s already EV charging in place. All provided regulations would allow it, of course.

[@LarsLarsen77]

@@bjondersson Regulations dont' allow it. You can't fly ultralights over populated areas.

[@LarsLarsen77]

The idea is that once lots of people start using these for recreation, that it will convince the FAA to change the regulations and allow commuter vehicles with automated ATC and semi-autonomous flight controls for untrained pilots.

[@bjondersson]

@@LarsLarsen77 Which country's regulations are you talking about? I live in Finland, and with a quick research I can't find any restrictions on flying over populated areas with ultralights. If there are restrictions, please provide a pointer. I can only find restrictions basically on altitude and that VFR are required.

[@alexdiamantopoulos6614]

Jet don 1 looks interesting to fly. I would hope in my time I would own one.

[@the.last.florida.native]

jetson for sure! i hope they both succeed tho to help the marketplace as a whole. i cant wait to see jetson when they get to v3

[@stevengibson2251]

The Black Fly, hands down. With what you get for the money, there is no comparison.

[@stephenschroeder6567]

I agree. Those exposed blades on the Jetson are just asking for an impact, a quick "F**K" in the pilot's mind, and then it will be up to the news crews to report about the destruction and life story of the former, now deceased, pilot.

[@darcy1437]

The Jetson is like cooler when they start building better lithium-ion batteries I think the Judson will be the better unit the other unit you’re looking up in the sky out of control and the jets and unit it’s flies level and you see exactly where you’re going

[@livingadventure2988]

Dont even need to think abt it. Jetson of course. Why? Its small enough to be transportet in a van. The other one is impossible to transport for normal peple except flying it of course. But the price tag makes it only interesting for people who want to rent it out or use it businesswise. However in the future (unfortunately future) prices will come down or salaries up however u take it. Cheers !

[@beardedmegatron5816]

I think Mr. Sparks captured my thoughts perfectly. Now just make one that can take off from a bayou and I would be sold. lol

[@CM-xi1nh]

3,200 dollars is a reasonable price -- otherwise, it's still virtually science fiction

[@knobknob7446]

Not worth it until they can do at least one hour flight.

[@MemesnShet]

This feels really futuristic

[@twil4909]

I'm getting that Jetson

[@TeslaBulldotcom]

Perhaps I didn’t hear very well, how do the battery sizes compare, I assume given it’s wing efficiency blackfly is going to travel much further per kWh, how much ?

[@eVTOLinnovation]

We do know BlackFly energy consumption is 245 Wh/mi but there is not much information about Jetson ONE. Jetson only says that flight time is 20 min.

[@TeslaBulldotcom]

@@eVTOLinnovation are we thinking jetson has a much bigger battery then, can see it being much more energy dense.

[@eVTOLinnovation]

@@TeslaBulldotcom I found 260wh/kg batteries are used in Jetson ONE, no official. Already BlackFly has 50% longer flight time than Jetson if we count the reserve. The distinction is what type of "flight" each company considers. Blackfly consumption is greater while hovering, Jetson ONE while in cruise.

[@eVTOLinnovation]

@Wildlife Warrior Yes

[@davefrimml1518]

I like the Jetson. However, they need to have the electric motors turn for horizontal cruise capabilities though! Both are cool but American legislation needs to pull their heads out of you know where, regarding maximum speed of ultra light aircraft! 62mph kinda negates the whole idea of air travel! If they aren't allowed to do at least 100mph, what's the point other than recreational purposes?

[@Holret]

They probably think civilians will add armaments to these drones or worse.

[@LarsLarsen77]

Ultralights are intended to limit you to recreational purposes. You can't enter class B airspace for example, which means you can't really use them to get around at all, since you can't really go far without entering controlled airspace.

[@damienezzell348]

Nice flying

[@AlexLegendri]

Very nice

[@eVTOLinnovation]

How much do you think each aircraft should cost?

[@electricaviationchannelvid7863]

Supply & demand will dictate it so right now there always be people out there with big wallets...further down the road comparing it to a UL helicopter+ training + maintenance dictates a marketable mass production price of 80-120 grand I think.

[@elliottaroundtheworld9816]

It would be better if I could charge it with a built in charger,to resume flight after 20 min.

[@RichADio]

I feel like the Jetson One's cruising disadvantage could be remedied with canards designed to create more lift. Its weight, size and portability already give it a much more sellable advantage over the BlackFly. Not to mention, it just looks cooler. Jetson One gets my vote.

[@alanploetz7100]

Yep. Looking forward to Jetson TWO: lower price, more range (oh, and up the weight capacity to 225#).

[@collinhenley52]

I really like both...I guess it would depend on your application as to which vehicle would be best for you. Jetson 1 seems like a great vehicle for surveying your property, while Blackfly looks like it will eventually be something more suited for daily travels to work or such(at least for rural communities). Excited to see both of these succeed. of course I guess I'll have to lose some weight... 200lbs is quite a low weight for a lot of Americans.

[@nighthawk0077]

To survey a property simply use a Mavic drone with 30+ minute flight time and 4K camera.

[@Theseus294]

Wonder how long until some military straps guns to this thing 🤣

[@michaelcroos4713]

Blackfly, hands down

[@coolfreaks68]

I shared the same idea about blimps with my professor at IIT. He said the design is impractical and it will increase the parasitic drag and the engine will require to expend more power. If the object has to move forward, then the balloon will not give many benefits. Plus if someone punctures the balloon the aircraft may fall if the aircraft is designed to be dependent on it. Blimps may help if we can design it in the shape of a B52 bomber, then maybe we get rid of the profile drag. Then the blimp itself acts like a wing. But here we must note that getting a lift is not a challenge. Drag is the challenge. The extra lift from the blimp will only enable it to fly upwards. What's the use of going a little extra in the upward direction? Our aim is always to travel in the forward direction. *Lift is something we get for free while countering the drag using the engine power. That's how an aircraft flies.* Currently available wings give so much lift that we don't need a balloon to add anything here. Balloons were actually used in Zeppelin aircraft a long time back. If someday we are designing a flying aircraft carrier, then Balloons may come in handy again. But unfortunately, that's also not happening, because missile technologies have improved so much that only hidden submarines are safe right now. For example, one single Kinzhal missile can bring down the huge USS Gerald aircraft carrier. That's why Mr. Biden is not sending it anywhere near Ukraine. A flying aircraft carrier concept may look like this: ______________ | Helium gas | |--------------------

[@snakeplissken3825]

It'd be great for mountain rescue. Cattle ranchers, farmers, fire dept. Emergency response, ship boarding operations, special ops. They'll be everywhere, watch.

[@yowwwwie]

as a former pilot, my opinion is that neither are airworthy....yet......There needs to be some kind of back up system (ie: like Prius elec/gas) for emergencies and weather. יוי

[@electricaviationchannelvid7863]

There are multiple redundancy features built in already both in the FC and the propulsion/power train...there is no single point of failure unlike on a UL helicopter...

[@c123bthunderpig]

Both have strong aerodynamic caveats , people who are not pilots or familiar with the physics of flight will crash by their third flight. As designed , they are both dangerous recreational toys, with no transportation value.

[@holyroller4u]

I like the Black Fly. Really cool would buy one of these way before an electric car.

[@cornbread1209]

I would use this to get to/from ONT or SBD airports from my house.

[@LuizWEB67]

Opener's BlackFly has a strange way of operating, it doesn't seem very functional to me, that butt dragging on takeoff and landing is bizarre and it's very expensive to transport, since it's big and needs support equipment for it, it doesn't seem like a viable project to me.

[@electricaviationchannelvid7863]

It can float on water as well...so it is a perfectly practical design in the countryside flying/landing environment...

[@ja-auch]

Opener is the number one! No streets, more nature ..

[@frankguo1748]

I will likely go for Jetson one if I am planning to buy eVTOL. It is smaller and more elegant. BlackFly looks weird when it is taking off and landing.

[@kingdavidthedogo6639]

I think I’m gonna wait for the Jetson 4s