Which Filson Products are Still Worth it??

[@CW4PWR]

I wanted the Journeymen backpack after I saw one in "Jack Ryan." They decided to have it made in China but still want to charge the made in the USA price of $395. For that kind of money, I'll support some real made in the USA brands.

[@calebgasca]

For real! For under 400 bucks you can get real made in America bags from Bradley mountain and they are a bit more rugged looking

[@johntaylor7635]

Yea I just bought the journeyman backpack and it was made in Vietnam . Not happy about it . No drain holes on the outside pocket and no webbing were the zippers end when you open the pack.

[@johntaylor7635]

@@homerhowzit2587 it doesn’t have the gusset anymore and it doesn’t have the little drain holes on the bottom of that big pocket on the back.

[@yaboijed3514]

Red Oxx!!! Made in Montana and my godfather just gave me his duffel bag from them he’s had forever. Fantastic warranty too.

[@Terrigan_Reina]

Bought one not long ago, without knowing it is now made in Vietnam instead of US. I bough it ASAP after seeing the colour I want is back in stock and knowing the quanitity of made in US stuff is limited. Although the quaility is still good, I should have waited for some discount if I knew it is not made in US.

[@williamcampbell1213]

Private equity is on a mission to kill every good company in the US. Its frustrating.

[@therealsideburnz]

Bunch of leeches

[@mattimorottaja8445]

*china

[@oleboy7615]

Agreed! Can’t blame the original founders for selling out for the security of their personal future, but I hate what corporate greed does to the original quality of the product.

[@truthseeker5968]

Thanks for calling Filson out! I hate that this is happening to once great American companies. Very Sad.

[@GatorAidMedical]

The Filson duffle now being $575 is ridiculous. Even at $395 it was tough selll

[@gregs.8895]

I was looking at getting a medium duffle for the last 6 months, not a chance now with the new price hike.

[@nlibby.268]

I got the LL Bean waxed canvas duffle in the khaki and I love it. Only $150 I think.

[@timfurlong1451]

Still better than Woolrich.

[@PaulAndBiscuit]

It is now a fashion icon! You won't complain when you sell your duffle for twice the price you paid!

[@PaulAndBiscuit]

@@nlibby.268 It won't go up in value like the Filson would.

[@senseored]

I’ve never really understood brand loyalty (at least to large companies), so I try to judge every single product I’m interested in on it’s own terms.

[@canadafree2087]

I am like that with Bean boots; everything else is mainly oveseas products.

[@michaelshearer3559]

I agree, every company has huge hits and misses. That's what makes the hunt so fun. lol

[@beorbeorian150]

It’s nice when a brand can be trusted so it takes less research and leaving things to chance.

[@XDWX]

Because you should support a company that shares your best interest. I wouldnt want to buy a product from a company that pays hundreds of thousands of dollars to the anti-gun lobby.

[@matthulhu27]

When I was in my 20’s, I loved the look and quality of Filson products, but was bouncing around jobs, and had no disposable income to get them. Now I’m almost 40, with job stability and regular income, and my disposable cash isn’t even enough for Filson products. I agree with you on LL Bean. I’ve gravitated more to their stuff lately, because it’s still well made and affordable. I have their Continental Rucksack from years ago. Still my favorite backpack ever!

[@CarlMurawski]

Same here man, I've never been disappointed with an LL Bean purchase. Their shirts are REALLY big though, even in their slim cut.

[@Nordic_Sky]

I love Carl's emphasis on buying fewer, better things. Also, the right type of patina just makes them look so more cool. Patina is so great on anything waxed canvas, denim and PNW boots, among many others. You have to earn that look. You can't just buy it.

[@CarlMurawski]

Totally agree!

[@bfettrules1239]

It’s called buy once cry once.

[@roloaddict]

I used to have a Filson budget that I carved out of my struggling early years' earnings. I purchased a number of their tin cloth and wool items in the 90's and they continue to serve me well today. The Highlander boots were and still are a dream. Every year I look forward to the return of cold weather so I can see my old friends again. My computer bag and I have logged over 1.5 million miles together with the commute and travel. But just as my favorite Carhartt B01's (moss & gravel) have gone, so have the things that attracted me to Filson. After the sale, could see the "Eddie Bauer" effect take hold and after awhile the tradition/quality/price calculus no longer works for me. It's sad but it is also evolutionary. When the old forget what got them there, the new will take the opportunity, just like the Filsons,Carhartts, and Levys in their day.

[@moorshound3243]

What brand of jeans would you recommend that are not made of stretchy fabric?

[@robertc8134]

I remember LLBean when they were a reputable company forty years ago. As the company was sold and resold to marketing types the quality went down the latrine. I had a 350.00 Maine Warden's Parka zipper fail, leaving me with a completely opened parka, fastened tightly around my neck by the junk zipper. Nearly impossible to remove. How hard my friends laughed! I went on the net and purchased a heavy brass zipper for the parka and had it installed by a professional tailor. You should not have to work that hard to end up with a decent product. And yet that is where we are today.

[@benharper6805]

I agree with almost everything you said here, I would add one concern: most of the tin cloth items are no longer made in the USA. With that being the case, the price tag is simply too high in my opinion. I think their longevity and durability is also in question given that they just started outsourcing the tin cloth items this year and their QC has been questionable at best for imported items.

[@mostBurnt815]

I thought I agreed until I took a look at the comparable waxed cotton garments from red cloud collective that Carl recommended…..a pair of Filson single tins are $195, a similar pair from red cloud(USA made) are $255. Seems to me that’s the labor difference right there. Now I get wanting made in the USA and being willing to pay for it, but at least they are passing along some of the savings apparently.

[@roryanri804]

I wear a pair of single tin unwaxed pants every single day as an electrician. I just bought a brand new pair and was disappointed when it arrived because that's when I realized it was no longer USA made. The new pants are still durable as hell, but ide rather support an American brand with American workers.

[@nlibby.268]

I bought a pair of red clouds waxed double front pants in Havana and I liked them but blew a knee out on the 2nd wear just raking and bagging leaves. I hear you’re supposed to re-wax them for durability and they give you a small tin of wax but for $255 I shouldnt have to wax them in between each wear. Sad to talk badly about a small USA company but I was a little disappointed. I bought a pair of work jeans from Greasepoint Workwear and absolutely love them, pricey for work jeans but you can see where the money goes.

[@KimballPrecision]

@@nlibby.268 you aren’t supposed to wax them between each wear lmao. More like 1-2 times a year

[@felixschober2845]

What about the 24 hour tin cloth briefcase?

[@nothertreeinbox]

Filson went from substance and utility to fashion and hipsters.

[@skoffco]

Rich hipsters ..lol

[@PaulAndBiscuit]

@@skoffco That is not a bad thing, the brand is a fashion icon and values of these items are appreciating!

[@bflathead]

I have a few of Filson’s items and they’re great but the recent price increases have put their stuff out of my range. The Guide sweater is now $550. Insane.

[@jerrybartlett273]

And over 2 hundred dollars for a pair of jeans. I could buy 3 pair of Levi's for that price

[@KimballPrecision]

@@jerrybartlett273 to be fair, Levi’s are nowhere near the quality of a nice pair of jeans. I spend $100+ on a pair of jeans and they’ll barely last a year. I want to spend more and get a 14+ oz denim pair and see how they hold up being like twice as heavy

[@jerrybartlett273]

@@KimballPrecision Filson make great jeans ,but are so expensive. I have 2 pair and they are so much thicker and bettet made than Levi jeans.

[@danielomalley4394]

Similar story here in Canada when Tilley Endurables, hatmakers whose products came with a lifetime guarantee, were bought out by a US investment firm. Only a few lines are still made here and the rest is Chinese-made, with quality suffering. I cherish my Tilley hats as well as my Filson 100% wool vest with the classic red/black pattern which is known here as ‘lumberjack’ attire.

[@rangervapes571]

Father purchased his Filson Makinaw Cruiser in 1977 and passed it to me and I have since passed to my son. Couple years ago purchased the Stormy Kromer Cruiser and love it minus the pocket configuration.

[@timothyrichardson5793]

I bought my filson Mac cruiser when I got out of the Navy in 1976 for $58.00 and I thought it was really expensive. After 45 years it's like new with a lot of wear.

[@jclaydon3454]

Thank you for making videos like this. I wish bigger companies would understand we want quality and we want items that are either American or Ethically sourced.

[@kevinleyva3003]

Sad days for Filson. Got my Med. Duffle and Mackinaw Cruiser a while ago and after seeing their prices skyrocket, I feel what I got from them is enough for me. Bradley Mountain makes an awesome looking briefcase that’s worth looking into. North End Bag Company from Virginia is another great maker that’s on pair with Bradley Mountain.

[@alexanderjamieson7971]

I like what Nick's boots is doing. Showcasing their craftsmen (and women) making their products on KZbin videos, showing off the high quality construction. It makes a person want to spend that extra money knowing they're getting a quality product that also pays wages to their fellow Americans.

[@gregkosinski2303]

Filson can’t do that because their workers are indentured servants fresh out of a shipping container

[@johnwen8810]

As someone who was in corporate America for decades, I recognized the filson trend immediately and it seems to have accelerated in recent years. The company has been taken over by the numbers guys whose goal is strictly to "maximize value for investors" which translates to exploiting the brand value for as much as possible, as long as possible, and when all the financial juice is squeezed out of it, discard the husk to go after another "undervalued" company. This approach is the very definition of "hedge fund."

[@CarlMurawski]

Its terrible, and youre absolutely right - standard operating procedure.

[@coalknob]

reminds me of Cabela's

[@krazmokramer]

I own ZERO Filson products. My life hasn't suffered. Filson sounds like a miserable company today. L.L. Bean quality has dropped significantly in the last 15 years. I've had buttons fall off in the first washing on several shirts. That never used to happen. I no longer spend my $$$ at L.L. Bean. I would have rather seen a 12 minute video about your cute dog! Stay healthy Carl!

[@CarlMurawski]

Hahahaha she will be a regular fixture for sure!

[@thebigds]

Another Great Value Filson Product: Last winter I picked up a couple Filson wool beanies for $50 each. May sound expensive, but other stores in the mall were selling polyester or acrylic hats for $30-$40 and the Filson ones were 100% wool and beefy as hell.

[@turnpikedivide]

Carl, first off: long time fan, first time caller. It's 2024 and in my opinion, I'd love to see you do another "Mackinaw Alternative" video. It's a shame, this is the first time in my life that I can afford a Filson but for the price and the move to international production has turned me away from dropping $550 on a new one. I'm one of the folks who likes to buy new but with the intention that every shift, mile, ding and tear are mine and mine alone. Beyond that, I'll keep tuning in for all of your unbiased and unwavering videos.

[@CarlMurawski]

Something is coming soon on Filson, so please stay tuned! Dont be a stranger!

[@Paul-mn8ql]

It's what's happening in a lot of industries - private equity firms are sucking them up, cutting costs and quality, and driving them into the ground. It's happened with vet clinics, opticians and all kind of different businesses that were high quality, family owned or owner operated and it's ruining Canadian and American small firms.

[@a.f.s.3004]

What I have noticed is that many Filson retailers in brick and mortar shops have older inventory on the shelfs that reflects older prices. A good place to find bargains.

[@ResilienceOnPurpose]

I've reviewed a few Filson products in the last few years on my channel and much of it has increased in price by hundreds of dollars since my reviews, and they were already overpriced. I have no idea what they are thinking raising their prices even more as they simultaneously off-shore more of their products. I used to work for Outdoor Research about 20 years ago in their main office/factory/ and factory store just a few blocks over from Filson in SoDo, Seattle, and I have a pro-deal with them now. Buut I don't know if I can recommend them as a company anymore. They were always too boutique, now they don't even seem to be targeting anyone but billionaires. I appreciate the history lesson you gave at the beginning. That says it all. Luckily I pretty much bought everything I wanted of theirs before they hiked prices insanely. If I didn't have a pro-deal even back then there's no way I could have afforded it. I think you're spot on with your assessment. And I agree with you about LL Bean. Everything of there's I own is great value, works well, is comfortable, and looks pretty good. They've been around a long while and managed to keep things good. Quality fade is a thing unfortunately and seems to be part of the lifecycle of an outdoor gear co. Luckily new, small-time manufacturers fill the voids left by the ones that got too big for their britches. I've watched it happen to North Face, Helly Hansen, OR, etc. Its unfortunate we can't have brand loyalty. I HIGHLY recommend Miklagaard in Sweden for the finest wool outerwear made. Check them out. I'll be doing a review of their pants soon.

[@erockshabazz9282]

Totally agree, I own more then a few FILSON garments, it’s is a shame to see their tin cloth lines go over seas. With the price hike they need a reality check. Very sad to see and the thumbnail for this video says it all.

[@dinobravo23]

I admit that I am/was a Filson fanatic. I love their wool products, leather, bags and tin cloth. But not anymore. They have turned me off with their constant price increases and their products being made overseas or with imported materials. The wool products just dont feel the same anymore. The fit is a concern as well. I will keep all the wool coats and twill bags and tin cloth items I have, but I dont see myself spending anymore money with Filson in the near future. Its a shame.

[@CarlMurawski]

Agreed, it feels like theyre directly offending their most loyal of customer.

[@McAdamSandwich]

Hey Carl - Thanks for shooting this one, as it's been a question on my mind for some time. As another Filson lover, it seems like they're in a weird spot right now. Too expensive, yet not quite good enough with things moving overseas. I'd like to see someone younger and dedicated take the brand over and move things back to the States. edit: Looking back, I bought my original briefcase in 2015 for $130 on sale from Nordstrom. Crazy value there.

[@chadwayne892]

I bought Filson double tin packer coat and overalls in 2003 while working as a field manager on a farm in PA. One of my employees bought a Carhartt jacket for about $80 at the same time. Both coats experienced the same type and degree of wear at the same rate, to include freyed cuffs and missing buttons. When I called Filson for warranty repair, in the late summer, it was going to take them up to 6 months to return my jacket & bibs. Yes, you can pass these down to grandchildren if you only wear them for hunting or going to the country club. But if you do real labor, you're throwing money away. I now have a Walls canvas jacket with quilted lining which I have worn for 2 winters doing construction work in Montana. I do, however, LOVE my tin packer hat and wear it fly fishing all the time.

[@joeblair77]

I do have to say that the Alaskan guide flannel is second to none. Just a beefy flannel and doesn’t shrink in the arms like all other flannels. I do agree it is sad what filson has been doing lately

[@andrewlivingston92]

Yeah I have a double mackinaw wool packer coat with shearling collar, from when you could buy the packer coat for $400, I bought it new for $200 lol I’ve been so disappointed in their price gouging lately. I still wear my great grand father’s mackinaw cruiser, I’m told it’s about 70 years old.

[@Thepurolife]

You make me miss fall and these videos are great I wait for them. Another great job brother. Thank you for this.

[@TheJhtlag]

Along with "quality fade" and perhaps parallel to it is the question of whether there's really a Filson's there, that is a Filson's HQ with Filson's factories making Filson stuff. We need to give that a name too, something along the lines of "virtual company" or something like that. That would be the point where the Company as defined by trademarks etc. become owned by something akin to a law firm who buy up all those things, basically the company that fits into the computer. They, of course, can now contract out that manufacturing to third party manufacturers. Note that the company in China is NOT a Filson factory, it is contracted to make articles according to the intellectual property owened of that law firm. Note that the law firm is neither Filson either, they just own the right t stamp articles with the Filson name, tin cloth etc. Likewise, there is no atelier where guys who have been outdoors design outdoors clothing anymore. There may still be a Filson's in some respect as I have described, I am familier with Mountain Khaki which is pretty much a name only these days, they used to make what I call one of those perfect things these solid 100% cotton twill khacki shorts. One of the problems with overseas (read: China) is they don't really do 100% khacki cotton so they are now trapped by those manufacturers to make things with what they ahve available, MH can't really choose what materials to make things anymore, long story short they have to sell the same things that thos manufactures make for every other company in that market. Ergo, MK is now a name with some value and little else.

[@brucemurray2520]

Thanks for the great video. Sad to hear about the slide downhill.

[@CarlMurawski]

Much appreciated! I agree, its a sad state of affairs.

[@matts6551]

I would never even consider buying anything new from Filson with how much the current ownership has tarnished this longtime piece of Americana. The last item I purchased new was an Ultralite vest. While it may not be made in country, it’s still good quality. I own two rugged twill bags from the mid 1990s and a wool Forestry Cruiser from 1960. All three purchased like new in the past 5 years. There’s no debating, you can tell a difference in quality when Filson was made by craftsman vs the automated assembly line

[@PaulAndBiscuit]

Probably a financial mistake, twill production will soon be 100% sent to Romania and the USA products they make right now will continue to appreciate in value.

[@chriscanzoneri5384]

Bought my Double Mackinaw Cruiser for $350 about 10 years ago. Thought it was a lot back then, but man...what a deal.

[@PaulAndBiscuit]

Agree, these jackets are well priced, it is also not hard to get 20% off coupons.

[@waynemills206]

I agree with all Carl's comments. In my humble opinion, the best upland coat ever was their shelter cloth game coat. They do not make it or the heavier tin cloth version anymore. Their merino lined goatskin gloves are excellent, but have more than doubled in price in the last few years.

[@christopherstevens7590]

Red Clouds Collective was the other company making waxed canvas workwear- they've got great deer and elk skin gloves, too

[@michaeledwardlenzi]

I have owned Filson jackets, pants and bags since the mid-90s. Their products were never that affordable. I bought a tin cloth "suit" consisting of dry tin pants and a dry tin wool lined packer coat. I wore it during the winter when my band toured. It was great stuff and I have very fond memories of how rugged and comfortable it was. I have had a bunch of jackets since then and have worn out the elbows and cuffs on all of them. Very satisfying. But times have changed and I don't use my stuff much anymore. I did buy a Ciano Farmer Denim work jacket last year that replaced my short Cruiser jacket. That recaptured the magic for me. Filson lost me when they started selling dog gear and corny t shirts and hats. And now the price is 2.5 times what they once were. Times change I guess. Filson changed and I did not change with them. It happens. Thanks for the video.

[@PaulAndBiscuit]

The dog gear looks pretty interesting, made of bridle leather, I am thinking of buying a collar for Biscuit. He will be ready for the catwalk.

[@Gynnemo]

Looks like a Pendleton board shirt you’re wearing there. I would love it if you took a dive on Pendleton in a future video. Their History and catalogoue and suchlike. Thanks!

[@CarlMurawski]

Great suggestion!

[@Old_Sailor85]

Love the pup, new Filson stuff not so much... I'll stick with my Ebay finds. Vintage Woolrich, Pendleton, Bemidji Woolen Mills, Cooper, Schott, and a few others.

[@kenrankin5814]

This is a great video and I made sure to share it as well. I have a Tin Cloth Packer hat that I love which I got for half price back in 2020. Aside from some smaller items, I can't imagine paying those prices for gear. I think you hit the nail on the head concerning fashion and trends versus purpose.

[@jonathanmcphail5254]

Whe I saw this pop up my first thought was “What the heck is he going to talk about for 14 minutes?!?!” I can vouch for the brief case. I purchased mine in 2010 and have used it nearly daily since. It’s better today than the day I purchased it. Every item of clothing I have is good, but just that…good.

[@Ughthisagain]

Wow the weather wool stuff is insane. And pricey lol. I feel I have got the best of Filson products a lot based on your reviews tbh. I have got a few duds also .. would love to see it come back to usa more. Thanks again for trying to keep interest in the brand while offering fair options

[@russellprice8082]

I have 2 made in Seattle wools jackets, and I had to strong arm them to make my wife a custom jacket they had quoted for us a few months earlier. She probably owns the last custom Filson piece ever made. Fantastic garments. This was 2006-2007. They have been all downhill since then. The original salesman in Seattle who quoted the custom coat for us was retiring in a few weeks because he could see the writing on the wall. Sad.

[@damiangutierrez9103]

Levi's went down in a similar way too. From jeans of rugged gold miners to the young crowd of today's fashion.

[@CarlMurawski]

Yes, exactly!

[@oleboy7615]

I found an old Filson vintage field jacket on-line and re-waxed it. It’s great! Made in USA, old school Filson with a zip in wool liner for warmth. Looks great after being re-waxed. Has THE PERFECT patina and works like brand new. I’m also a fan of Orvis dry waxed cotton as well. My wife bought me a new Heritage field jacket several years ago and it’s fantastic. It’s the olive version, and I recently found a tan jacket on eBay. Still had factory new tags on it. I also bought an old model Orvis field jacket and re-waxed it like you did with the Otter wax. Bit of a chore! After the work it looks good, but don’t think I’ll tackle it again, either. Good content! Appreciate the ins/outs on Filson.

[@thel1zardking]

As a big Filson fan I agree with a lot of what’s said here. In 2016 I bought a Mackinaw cruiser, and it’s gone up over $100 in price since then, crazy! They still make good items but agree that it’s mostly their legacy items that have been made for decades. Which is a shame because I love the form and function of much of their line.

[@CarlMurawski]

Same here man, its like watching your home burn down or something... Such a shame to see what was once a great company destroy themselves.

[@sandro1a2b]

So good for both the list of products and the historical timeline and overview, thanks!

[@joelsokoloff1980]

Thank you for making this video. I know you take no pleasure in calling out the shortcuts, offshoring, and corporatized structure of these once humble companies. But on the other hand, I'm glad you are giving us, your audience, current alternatives. It is hard to see Filson go their current route. I have a packer coat and wool zip in liner jacket from about 12 years ago. Amazing quality, comfort, real deal gear. I just looked at Filson's online catalog and they don't make the tin cloth packer coat anymore. An iconic item gone for lack of sales, no doubt. And the $285 (I thought that was a ton of money then) I paid would clearly be $600 now. I look forward to patronizing the other companies you suggested.

[@curtis6554]

I also have a packer coat but no vest it doesn't get cold enough where I live to justify one . My coat is 23 yrs old and will literally still stand up on it's own . totally waterproof and windproof I have been offered 400 bucks for it which is twice what I paid for it but it still hangs in the barn I found the small tin of wax they gave me when I bought the coat never used not needed great coat

[@chrisluce9475]

I never thought I would love a jacket as much as I do my cruiser. Filsons mackinaw wool is magical! I also love my mackinaw vest. I pulled the trigger on a merino wool Henley guide sweater. VERY expensive! Worth every penny. Made in the USA. Filson hasn't let me down yet. Thanks for your videos...

[@CarlMurawski]

I agree, that Mackinaw cruiser is timeless and one of the pillars of the brand. If they mess that one up, they're going to be in real trouble.

[@timfurlong1451]

Did you know the mackinaw wool used to be made at pendleton woolen mills?

[@chrisluce9475]

@@timfurlong1451 Yes I believe it still , at least that is what I was told this week by the lady at Pendleton when I bought my new wool Jack shirt. Thanks...

[@k.b.o.7514]

Those prices all shot up at least 15% about 3 months ago,. not to be a Richard or anything, but those crappy Chelan tables are pronounced "Shuh-lann" by locals just in case you're out here in Warshington state...keep this content comin we like it! P.S. Lake Chelan is beautiful by the way, good vacation spot, and not that far from your favorite Nicks shop.

[@cordovanhobbyist895]

Here in Texas, I found the Mackinaw Wool Field Pants for $133. Brand New with tags. Quite the steal!

[@StolenAlias]

Overcritical? Not even close.

[@sputnik94115]

I still wear the Filson Tin Cloth Packer Hat I bought in 2005 every winter in the rainy season. It will outlive me and it's still reasonably priced. -ish :) $85 won't break the bank.

[@n00bstacle]

I got a pair of fjallraven vidda pro pants for working in the BC mountains and they are honestly my favorite work pants that I've ever owned so far. I would recommend them

[@CarlMurawski]

This is a brand I need to get more familiar with, I've heard nothing but great things.

[@robertsutphen2333]

I am a 72 year old retired lineman the power company in upstate New York. ……my last three years, I was a transmission line and distribution line inspector. I have approximately 40 pieces of Filson. My Mackinaw cruisers are sacred to me. I just gave my double mac to my youngest son (37 ) . It looks brand new still. Another point …is that their wool ( 28 oz) is extremely spark resistant a good shield from heat.

[@humble2012]

One thing I'd love to see Carl review is soap, there's a lot of soap made for men and have rugged scents and I think it'd be a very interesting thing to see him review.

[@CarlMurawski]

Well I certainly appreciate the idea, and I've had a couple of those soaps which have been of varying levels of satisfaction. The problem is that I wouldnt have anything other than my own subjective opinion on them and nothing scientific or objective. Its a cool idea though, and I'm certainly going to consider it!

[@michaelcase8574]

35 years ago I had a Filson long bill woolen ball cap. The best hat I ever had. Sure wish I still had it!

[@powercrusher67]

Manifattura Ceccarelli used to do white label manufacturing for Filson Italy and since then they've branched off and are making garments under their own brand. Barely available stateside though which is a shame. Can also vouch for Vermillyea Pelle. I have one of their briefcases in heavy olive waxed canvas (heavy tin) and Sedgwick leather and it blows my Filson bags out of the water especially for the prices Filson is charging now. I also have a couple of Bleu de Chauffe bags and while they don't feel as ultra rugged as a Filson bag, you're getting a very well made, made in France, all vegetable-tanned leather bag for the same price as a Filson canvas and leather bag.

[@boydmasonlake1995]

I have a closet full of Filson gear , all purchased in the 90s. Their wool goods are truly a great product. My LG duffle is better than new with the patina. Not mentioned here, the shelter cloth is really good, including my fly fishing vest. Customer service was top notch. In 1998 my recently purchased hunting coat was a bit too big, talked with Peter in CS explaining my plight and a hunting trip in less than a week. Pete said he was shipping to me the next size down coat and when I got back from my trip to ship back original coat. This was done without any charges or refund s, simply an honor system over the phone. I will never forget that@

[@michaelshearer3559]

It's always best to wait until their new fall / winter releases come out, but sure their tin cloth, wool, and few others will always be collection staples. Never overlook their summer sale too, some sweet deals if you get in early. My biggest concern lately has been their pricing, but thankfully I already have a few great jackets from them that will last forever.

[@swiftcaution5170]

Yes sir you are right about quality wool. It lasts a lifetime. I got a Pendleton shirt when I was in high school. Probably got it in 1972. My wife still wears that jacket. I certainly won't fit in it anymore :-) and it sure went through hell and those early years and it's still here and it still looks brand new! You cannot beat quality wool! Great video sir thank you!

[@TheMehcuryCrowd]

Who else wants to see the original list Carl had in mind before the recent price increase?

[@jonathanwatts1371]

I’ve rabbit hunted my whole life, and since finding Filson 20+ years ago, I have worn their stuff every time I hunt. Just so happens, it’s still the same pants, hunting jacket, and game vest that I bought 20+ years ago. I have the 622B tin cloth upland jacket with blaze orange cloth on the back and front chest, the old double tin cloth pants (like the double tin bibbs, with green on top and brown on the bottom, for the double layer), and the tingling game vest with blaze orange back. I’ve sent them back, and they repaired them once. Also, I bought my dad the same jacket. Best stuff EVER by far! However, they don’t make any of the three items I just mentioned, anymore. Such a shame!

[@robertswitzer3630]

Bought my Filson's coat 30 years ago after seeing my friends. Still love it. Sad to see what's happening.

[@zumbaRdie]

good video. I believe the pressure of giving ROI to investors pushes all these companies to increased the price. It is unfortunate that the value for our buck kind a get lost. I buy the products based on where it is made. I don't mind paying for the price as long as I know that hands that built is was paid fairly. I just bought a used Mackinaw cruiser from a friend at half the price and I am glad to pay him for it. I owned other down jackets and never owned a wool jacket till now. This. is now my go to jacket for the winter and I will pass this on to my oldest.

[@jennifers6435]

Yup!i agree..I am old 3rd generation seattle....mackinaw and rugged twill..bridle leather..nothing beats wool

[@GammaBlack]

Would gladly accept anything from this brand as gift…

[@jarroyomaranata]

I do get frustrated when people say that the quality automatically has gone down when it moves overseas. They have no clue how advanced overseas factories are compared to US factories.

[@michaelklein3148]

Try Johnson Woolen Mills in Vermont as an alternative to Filson.

[@jamesdaniel2363]

Company Man! Is the company history channel on YT. LOVE THAT GUY!

[@armink9686]

I think that unfortunately we have to accept that a lot of heritage brands are living purely on their reputation. The future belongs to new companies that have yet to prove their worth. Let's not forget that we live at a time when you can have custom made flannel shirts with great materials and made in humane conditions for less than a 130$, clinging onto the stories of once great brands will only make the problem bigger, if they see that you're still willing to buy their products even though the quality has gone down they will only feel validated and will then reduce the quality of the products that are still worth a buy. A rant a day keeps the counselor away.

[@EQ9962]

I love a good flannel and have been buying vermont flannel co. What brand makes custom? Am interested in checking them out. Absolutely agree with your post btw

[@armink9686]

@@EQ9962 Apposta out of Italy, they're a shirt maker with plenty of fabric options available

[@scottpattinson8134]

Companyman is the KZbin channel that talks about companies history.

[@surpriseholsterworks]

I talked to a small town Filson'/Pendleton/Woolrich dealer.... He now only carries Johnson. It's the ONLY made in the USA wool coat left. Filson wants the dealers to carry $10,000 in inventory before they can sell their coats that are now Chinese garbage. Most dealers are declining to carry the big brands and switching to Johnson. I have 2 and love them.

[@bsa1969]

I own the Filson 'tincloth game bags', I bought them 2 years ago and as mentioned in your video, the tincloth remains a quality product. Also, I should note, I bought these for the simple and utilitarian design; they have 3 bags, one bag for shells, one for spent shells (leave it better than you found it), and one for birds. God bless simple design.

[@b.s.8723]

Several years ago, I stumbled across a couple relics from Filson's brief foray into the watch world in a TJ Maxx in a small town in Indiana. A Journeyman GMT with a stainless steel band and a Mackinaw Field Watch with a leather band. They were both on clearance for $120 each. A far cry from their original MSRP.

[@LorSTApunk07]

I have a few Stormy Kromer hats. They seem to make good stuff, and most of it is US made.

[@CarlMurawski]

Excellent alternative!

[@TheShannonagains]

At first you would think it’s inflation, but when you compare their price increases in comparison to similar brands, it becomes obvious it’s probably a little more greed than it is inflation.

[@donnelson4140]

Yep, me again. Filson fanboy from way back, especially the coats. But looking back now, I haven’t bought any for several years. The stuff I have (wool, tin cloth, some hats, canvas, even socks) doesn’t wear out* so I’m pretty much set for life. Still, during the winter here in SoDak, folks sporting Macs recognize each other from far off, and figuratively tip their hats. *Filson socks do wear out, of course. And I wore a hole through a single Mac with an unprotected hammer spur. Fixed years ago with iron-on denim patches, and still worn.

[@anthonygrisham7132]

Are you planning on doing a video on that Pendleton Board Shirt anytime?

[@spammodump]

Anyone in Europe buying Filson bags on the European Filson website note that those bags are made in Romania; they don't hide this fact, it's in the product descriptions...

[@buch601]

You hit the nail on the head. Some products from Filson are great, like I have a Jac Shirt and wool blanket, both in mackinaw wool and are amazing in the winter. But yeah, expensive so I bought the Jac Shirt on Mercari because it was cheaper and the pattern I wanted was discontinued. It’s probably safe to say that anything Filson sales made from cotton or synthetic material is best purchased from another retailer, like you said L.L. Bean for example.

[@artieshell9205]

Awe…. My dog is “Chloe” too. (I’m Artie from Mascon Leather). Also, random, rip from Yellowstone series wears the Filson tin cloth short jacket

[@CarlMurawski]

Hey man! Love the Mascon stuff, big fan of the beautiful edge finishing.

[@HabeasJ]

Love the thumbnail

[@brandonwilcox9316]

Pretty sure the KZbin channel you mentioned is called Company Man. Great and interesting channel.

[@pincermovement72]

I’m English and always try to buy British made products but this is becoming increasingly difficult. Companies outsource their products that never retain their quality but they then charge the same price making initially huge profits but people soon realise that the quality was not what it once was . So you stop buying and go elsewhere and the brand dies . If a company has shareholders this always seems the direction of travel . I suppose though this is an opportunity for independent small manufacturers to turn the tide against the big boys .

[@adamclater3068]

100% agree on looking for used filson gear when you can. I'm a big fan of the Alaska guide shirts, happy to get them used when I can - they last forever.

[@granthaller9544]

My favorite item is my Guide sweater. It’s so warm and soft. I think I paid $225 for it. It’s now like twice that! Crazy. Their tags used to have comments to send in with the warranty. I always said keep the manufacturing in the US. But they are selling more and more imported. Sad.

[@craigguilmet6282]

Great content in your video, enjoyed your perspective.

[@CarlMurawski]

I appreciate that!

[@petersilecchio4417]

Thanks For your Review. Very Helpful. I like to Buy American Made Products.

[@flfbsphatboyblue8970]

Have to check out the Nicks x Heat Straps "The Patriot" collaboration. Looks interesting but I think they may have taken some tips from Filson on the pricing. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@mkadair]

Funny that you mention Filson branded watches. I waited until the Filson watch I wanted was on sale for $400. Still a lot on money for a quartz watch. They do not even have watches listed in the catalog these days.

[@judobear1]

I’ve owned many a great Filson product and the old school stuff has/is great. For 30 years I coveted the Filson Whipcord pants thinking they would be the best late fall early spring hunting pants just had a hard time with the price. Well two years ago I came across a pair, in my size, at a small local outdoor store that carries a lot of Filson products. As usual I hemmed and hawed while reviewing the product on the internet and found out they had discontinued the pants. I immediately went to the shop and handed over the $280 for them. I’m glad I did and wish I’d done it 30 years ago-amazing product.

[@ZenOkeanos]

good ad for vintage Pendleton wool shirts.

[@AlastairSmith]

Check out the prices in the UK - rugged twill briefcase is £525, so $665

[@wesleybeach5985]

I bought a pair of tin cloth bibs for $75 at offerup, crazy steal!

[@chrishallnyc]

Bernadoodle tail at 7:58

[@snusmumriken232]

It’s simply a matter of the company’s purpose in time. When it started, it was just a straightforward clothing manufacturer whose customer demographic necessarily were outdoorsmen. The market was just smaller, there was only one interested demographic, and no global commerce. Today, the company is held by private equity in the context of globalization, and the demographics are such that I would bet most of Filson’s customers are not even outdoor enthusiasts, let alone commercial outdoorsmen, and only buy Filson for the look and name. So who cares if it’s chintzy and overpriced really. Those who like the name will continue to buy and those that dislike will just move on. That is private equity working correctly if it’s turning a profit.

[@ROE1300]

👍 Good choices, but IMHO Filson has priced themselves out the realm of reality. Most of their products seemed to be priced for those with more dollars than cents (sense) relying on name recognition. Passing it down through generations only has value if the first generation can afford it. But, if one lives in an environment were you need the rugged products to stay warm or endure the rigors of a job these products may still be a good buy.