WHICH FINISH IS THE BEST!? We test the leading four hard-wax oil finishes!

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William Douglas Co.

William Douglas Co.

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Which finish is the best? That is the question I had. I started this video with the intention of finding which hard wax oil was the best because that is what I want to use. Instead of taking someone else's word for it I decided to test them out for myself. What you have in this video is a completely unbiased conclusion.
WHY DONT YOU USE LACQUER / POLY / CONVERSION VARNISH ETC.???
The answer..
I worked in a big custom furniture shop before this and that is all they used. If you want to make money and need to crank things out fast then you should use those finishes. They are the industry standard and are well excepted amongst our community. HOWEVER.. I do things on a higher level and my prices reflect that. I personally want the best for the furniture I put out, so top coat finishes are not even an option in my shop. I would consider using those finishes on something like a kitchen cabinet box, but not my furniture.
Why are they bad?
1) When they fail they fail hard. The finish raises/separates from the wood and flakes off.
2) Touch up is not an option. Completely sand off and refinish when they fail or even get a scratch.
3) Aesthetics.. Looks like plastic.
4) They don't wear well.
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@angelgabriel7109
@angelgabriel7109 3 жыл бұрын
The ultimate underrated woodworking channel!!
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
Angel Gabriel that’s us
@joninfect8681
@joninfect8681 3 жыл бұрын
Subscribed because of your comment
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
@@joninfect8681 haha I’ll take it!
@CraigularjJoeWoodworks
@CraigularjJoeWoodworks 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think it’s under rated. It’s clearly a great channel
@angelgabriel7109
@angelgabriel7109 2 жыл бұрын
@@CraigularjJoeWoodworks i mean that is under-appretiated
@thefilthelement
@thefilthelement 3 жыл бұрын
"What am I going to use on my epoxy river table? Fire would be good for that Perfect
@Dtsmith69
@Dtsmith69 3 жыл бұрын
Gasoline!! love it man. You know if you flog those knotheads more they will listen better
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha just raising awareness
@Joestacemazjojo
@Joestacemazjojo 3 жыл бұрын
That definitely had me rolling, although I like working with resin so far although I don’t consider myself a true wood worker yet. Overall very helpful video as I work with a good deal of both blk walnut and ash, and have stuck with Osmo since discovering it after beginning with poly ( which I don’t think I’ll ever go back) but will definitely check out The others now. Especially for the ash
@alecnettleton3317
@alecnettleton3317 3 жыл бұрын
Big fan of these hard wax oils. I lean towards osmo polyx for most furniture due to being able to get a bit more sheen than either Rubio or Odies. Never noticed a smell issue with Osmo either. I do wear gloves when applying. No gloves required and the great smell with Odies keeps me coming back to it for certain projects though.
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
That’s odd that you say that. The people I know that use polyx say they like it because you get more of a Matte finish out of it
@LuisSanchez-wf9zw
@LuisSanchez-wf9zw 3 жыл бұрын
Love the comment at 9:21, “I’m probably just going to use Rubio because it doesn’t smell like I’m gonna die.”, lmao
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
Not on the wood.. but maybe i should
@robertennor1143
@robertennor1143 2 жыл бұрын
The only one I was familiar with was the OSMO, which I picked up to refinish two small stool tops that are natural pine. Sanded the tops and sides down, applied two coats and got a clear natural pine finish minus the wet look of varnish or polyurethane. Like the flat finish over a gloss or semi gloss as well. Still looking perfect after 3-4 years. Not sure if you two favs are available in Canada but will keep an eye out. Enjoyed this vid (as well as others on your channel). I like the no stain approach to finishing as well as colourless finish products. Really enjoying your channel. Thank you for doing it. Rob
@XC2long4u
@XC2long4u 2 жыл бұрын
Get that sponsorship dude, we believe in you.
@ItsaaaaMeeeee
@ItsaaaaMeeeee 3 жыл бұрын
We don’t snort the soap! Lmao. Great video! Very informative.
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
Mario Garcia haha thank you for watching
@Chestnut510
@Chestnut510 Жыл бұрын
As someone who owns a finish shop and done full houses in rubio I would say you definitely need to wear a mask with it. The catalyzer is what is killing brain cells. I get worse headaches with that stuff than I do conversion varnish. You should try emmet’s good stuff
@SweetTGuitars
@SweetTGuitars 2 жыл бұрын
OSMO is food safe, it's also child's toy safe once cured. I love this video. Very informative and the fact that you tested the most popular oil finishes is really the ticket.
@SkillzMillz83
@SkillzMillz83 3 жыл бұрын
How many coats of gasoline should I put on my epoxy river table again?
@ACR4008
@ACR4008 3 жыл бұрын
Hey guys- I came upon your channel and have really enjoyed the videos. I’m a fan of your philosophy on your tools, business, videos, and craft. Keep up the good work :)
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!! Really appreciate it!
@jeffreyjbyron
@jeffreyjbyron 4 ай бұрын
Where can I buy the soap finish? Depending on the wood/grain, Osmo and Rubio both make finished with lighteners in them that do an ok job of preserving light wood color. It's technically stain, but since all finishes amber wood, I don't really see the difference between a stain and a finish. I guess that's a different approach than trying to pass off poplar as cocobolo though...
@timofeyzhukov-khovanskiy9173
@timofeyzhukov-khovanskiy9173 Жыл бұрын
I think TnT and Odie's are easier to explain to customer being food safe. Like, TnT it's pure linseed oil polymerized and beeswax. I have a gallon of the TnT pure stuff too for mixing and generally it does an awesome job on turnings. And since I can friction polish on the lathe I actually get a coat of it first, then wet sand at 1000 grit, buff out with paper towel, rub some about 80% beeswax/20% carnauba wax mix while lathe is going, then burnish with a brown paper bag piece and I'm done. It's dry to touch then.
@AaronCo29
@AaronCo29 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing about an epoxy finished countertop the first time I ran across one, then came the river tables, and my first experience was walking into a house with a dark light and a glowing table that looked like it was cut straight from the middle of the tree and they had Avatar streaming constantly in the background, man that was a long couple of days and I hated that movie for a while, I also thought to myself, rich people are weird. Fast forward a while and wouldnt you know it, the river table separated, the wood had checks all through it and gaps cracks etc. and I made the comment about how wood moves and will dry out etc. and they told me that contradicted what the guy that made the table for them said, and I laughed uncontrollably, to the point it came out my nose because I was trying to hold it in, they even said, he said it just adds to the "natural" look of the table and was normal, then I noticed a piece of corn stuck in a crevice and ask them if they wanted me to dig that out for them, but I stopped myself and said, "Oh yeah, it adds to the natural look of the table, never mind" and I havent been back to that house for anything, given the competition I was up against, and the fact, I have seen better made picnic tables, out of pine that held up better, and they were comparing my work to that.
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
AaronCo29 ah man thanks for sharing that story. I needed a good laugh. Now every time I see an epoxy river table I’m just going to think of corn
@ledgm108
@ledgm108 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to make this video
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to watch and drop a comment!
@Ackbarfangirl
@Ackbarfangirl 2 жыл бұрын
Omg I’m in stitches and also enlightened
@Lady_Miter_Saw
@Lady_Miter_Saw 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Good information delivered in a funny & concise way!
@vincentlaguardiagambini5702
@vincentlaguardiagambini5702 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. I learned and you earned a subscriber.
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@MrJKellerLewis
@MrJKellerLewis 3 жыл бұрын
Does your finish (for light wood) repel water rings? Also great video, always funny and original
@middletonwoodworks
@middletonwoodworks 3 жыл бұрын
WD - I'd like to request a t-shirt with the Build logo on front and your shop rules on the back! I've got the original Build shirt, but this sir, would be an instant classic. Nice job on the video too! Like you, I'm partial to rubio because of the smell as well!
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
Rob Middleton those damn shop rules slipped in there! I didn’t know they were in the video until someone said something hahah
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
Rob Middleton also.. that’s a great idea for the shirt haha I just might do that
@oranaomi
@oranaomi 3 жыл бұрын
Great review. Learnt a lot about where and when to apply the different finishes. Thank you!
@ivanilves
@ivanilves 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome content, awesome humor as well! You deserve more subscribers bro ;) Greetings from Spain
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Don’t know how I missed this comment!
@bencook5079
@bencook5079 3 жыл бұрын
Can you talk more about your finish you sell? What is the cost? How many coats needed? If multiple coats, what is needed in between the coats? Also, what “type” of finish is it (oil based wax or other?). What type of project (besides light colored woods) would you use it with (large conference table, side table, etc?)? Absolutely love your work both as a KZbinr and woodworker! I also really like the thought of not turning lighter woods I use into that stupid tan color! I hate that!
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Ben, I am going to have to do a video on it because I keep getting similar questions. It’s nothing a invented. I just made it accessible. It’s literally 100% natural soap and water. Nothing els. The trick is in making it. If you visit my website I have more info on its ideal use. Basically.. it’s not hard-wearing. It’s a mild finish that is incredibly easy to apply and completely safe. Your hands get clean as you apply! Anyway.. Williamdouglasco.com
@kalamabrew5963
@kalamabrew5963 3 жыл бұрын
I've been using Tried & True Danish oil lately in my shop, mostly on walnut, and I like it quite a bit. The smell isn't offensive and I like how it goes on, also it's nontoxic and that adds keywords to marketing that you know what type of person appreciates... (though it makes me feel like I'm putting gluten free labels on apples)
@oatmealxo
@oatmealxo 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a video on your finishing soap!
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll do one!
@mikes1330
@mikes1330 3 жыл бұрын
@@WilliamDouglasCo Still waiting for this video on the soap finish. I have 3 large maple dressers and am nearing the finish choice point. Application, coverage, results, reasons, etc.
@DM-ll7he
@DM-ll7he 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos. Can these be used on furniture that is already stained and finished? I want to bring back the beauty of my china cabinet.
@davidboyce6975
@davidboyce6975 3 жыл бұрын
Have you tried Osmo Top Oil? Food safe and no mask required. Lovely finish.
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
David Boyce no I haven’t heard of that one!
@davidboyce6975
@davidboyce6975 3 жыл бұрын
@@WilliamDouglasCo It's good, hunt it out. I use it a lot. Also, I'm pretty sure the PolyX Oil is food safe as well. Been a while since I checked the MSDS data sheet, but seem to recall that it's not toxic. Oh, hate river tables. Were interesting for maybe five minutes, then everyone was doing them.
@brodykin3505
@brodykin3505 Жыл бұрын
Any recommends for wood floor refinishing. I also try to preserve brain cells, and don't really like thick glass-like finishes.
@davidpietranczyk
@davidpietranczyk 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have any content on how to use the soap finish kit? Currently making some nightstands out of maple. That could be a great option but I don’t know how to apply it. Thanks!
@Z-add
@Z-add Жыл бұрын
Odie oil says you need only one coat and you can sand to any grit.
@thelandgrafable
@thelandgrafable 3 жыл бұрын
Food safe doesn't mean "for cutting boards." I wouldn't recommend Odies for an actual cutting board. Hard wax oils don't penetrate deep enough.
@UncleJoe1231
@UncleJoe1231 3 жыл бұрын
Right, I soak my cutting boards in mineral oil for 24 hours.
@neleklindt6312
@neleklindt6312 3 жыл бұрын
In terms of gloss, have you compared Rubio and Osmo? I need to find out which can be buffed to the highest gloss. Thanks!
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure you can choose the sheen when buying osmo. Rubio has a sheen but it’s mild. The osmo I used in this video was low sheen.
@kellym3610
@kellym3610 2 жыл бұрын
That intro was awesome.
@NiceShotchannel
@NiceShotchannel 3 жыл бұрын
Hello and thanks for your great videos. I'm working on vintage audio systems what is the best option for side wood panels ?
@williamsweet7511
@williamsweet7511 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for the tip on soap finish for light woods, just ordered them from you
@angelosantoro7000
@angelosantoro7000 2 жыл бұрын
That was as awesome. Thank you for the info!
@jonq8714
@jonq8714 3 жыл бұрын
Which of the four do you comb into that glorious moustache?
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
The one that smells like poison
@markstaub5250
@markstaub5250 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent info. What I needed to know. Thanks🏁
@mainly_kayla701
@mainly_kayla701 3 жыл бұрын
How do u apply your soap finish, like how long wait after finish to put polish on do you wipe excess off like Rubio, I can’t find directions just bought some
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
I send out application instructions with the kit, did yours get missed? I’ll do a video on it soon but for now.. you want to wait 30 mins or longer between coats. It really depends on your area and the climate. Do not let any application streaks dry on the wood or you’ll have to buff out with a micro fiber. I typically do one coat of finish Scuff One coat of polish Scuff if needed. (Needed if rough to touch) 2nd coat of polish
@mainly_kayla701
@mainly_kayla701 3 жыл бұрын
@@WilliamDouglasCo might have got missed or if it was outside of the box and in the delivery box I could have thrown it out
@crazyirish4
@crazyirish4 3 жыл бұрын
Tried and True I thought needed to be applied with cloth like a cheese cloth. I’m with your I hate stains but obviously have to for some customers. I have everyone of these hard wax oils in shop. Hardwax is the shit! Try Briwax though, bet your love it(minus mixing it 🤣)
@robertoinvests
@robertoinvests 3 жыл бұрын
What do you recommend for a butcher block countertop something with a hard Janka like Oak
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
We just did one for a customer and used odies oil. It was beautiful and no complaints from the customer
@randyallaway4085
@randyallaway4085 3 жыл бұрын
Real talk, though- which one tastes the best?
@TristanJCumpole
@TristanJCumpole 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm, I'm not sure about the information being given out here. Osmo PolyX is food safe, as is their Top Oil. I've used both extensively, and beyond the usual "don't drink, careful with rags" caveats, it's friendly. Not easy to clean off skin without using unfriendly solvents, but still.
@geniusjen78
@geniusjen78 3 жыл бұрын
I found your video looking for Walrus Oil Furniture Butter reviews. Have you tried that one?
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
I have not used that one before
@barstad-9591
@barstad-9591 3 жыл бұрын
Love your humor. New subscriber.
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!! Really appreciate the support 🙏🏼
@Marcusstratus
@Marcusstratus 2 жыл бұрын
I like the only finish you use in your shop, A+
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I appreciate the comment as well 😀
@Marcusstratus
@Marcusstratus 2 жыл бұрын
@@WilliamDouglasCo I've used Odies before, but never went over it with steel wool or did two coats. Can you recommend a resource to learn more about the process you use for Odies?
@johnnosacka9556
@johnnosacka9556 3 жыл бұрын
I’m about to finish some interior doors made of Spanish cypress which I’m told is a juniper that’s similar to a mahogany, though lighter in color. Now, I have no idea if that’s correct. The doors are mostly glass with dividers. They will get a fair amount of use. I’ve just started to research these hard oils. Would you do the Ofie’s or the Rubio? Or, would you go with the soap?
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
I would use Rubio for that specific application
@billdyke9745
@billdyke9745 Жыл бұрын
The best hard wax oil is Fiddes... (It beats Osmo by a country mile, anyway. Your other choices are not available in the UK. (No doubt there are Black Market sources)...
@colelf69
@colelf69 3 жыл бұрын
This is awesome
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
colelf69 glad you like it!
@-aeshe-4951
@-aeshe-4951 2 жыл бұрын
Can you layer finishes ? Say a oil finish for the color, a water based polyurethane for the film n protection n Odie's over that cuz a lot of food is gonna fall on the table. Any recommendations ?
@-aeshe-4951
@-aeshe-4951 2 жыл бұрын
It's a very pale color, n i want it to becomes the pleasant white-yellow of Pine n not darken it too much.
@ginoalary2629
@ginoalary2629 Жыл бұрын
Yes you can, make sure the oil finish is completely dry before you apply your top coat and you will be fine, it’s actually a very good way to keep the amber look of a solvent finish under a more eco friendly water base finish system.
@miketype1each
@miketype1each 2 жыл бұрын
NEVER use steel wool between coats... that is, unless you want bits of gray stuck in the pores of your wood project. Use of synthetic abrasive pads is fine, but NEVER real steel wool. Nope, not even once. How do I know? I learned the hard way.
@Vultite
@Vultite 2 жыл бұрын
How do you feel about the Waterlox tung oil?
@stevenvachon9745
@stevenvachon9745 2 жыл бұрын
I have used Osmo before and like it but am considering using Rubio for a large project (big walnut kitchen island). I'm wondering about the length of time you have to use Rubio once it is mixed with the hardener. Is there a time limit?
@jong4939
@jong4939 Жыл бұрын
I think its 2-4hrs
@BlueOriginAire
@BlueOriginAire 3 жыл бұрын
comment question: can your in the box kit be tinted for a nutmeg colored tone. We need to match up stair treads to the new engineered floors. Thanx brother.
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
That’s a very interesting question.. I’m not sure. I have never tried to add color to it. I’m really not sure what would happen.
@BlueOriginAire
@BlueOriginAire 3 жыл бұрын
@@WilliamDouglasCo No worries. Looking forward to joining the Odie's Revolution
@MetatronYHWH888
@MetatronYHWH888 6 ай бұрын
This is good shit...thank you!
@maxpoiss
@maxpoiss 3 жыл бұрын
How do you compare these oil to LIVOS hard oil? Also, do you really need to sand to 320G before applying Odies? Or is it between each coat? Thanx
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve never heard of livos. Yes they really want you to sand to 320 but they say you can stop at 180 if you’d like but it won’t yield the best results.
@Lime-Spider1959
@Lime-Spider1959 3 жыл бұрын
John Goodman does wood !! Cool
@sampjm1898
@sampjm1898 2 жыл бұрын
Can I ask which one have the smoothest feeling? thanks 🙏
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 2 жыл бұрын
Soap finish is the smoothest by far
@conradfreeman3000
@conradfreeman3000 3 жыл бұрын
Isnt Rubio around 4x thr cost of osmo?
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
No the cost per sq ft was almost identical when I researched pricing for this video.
@woodroofguy
@woodroofguy 3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video. Thanks! ❤️ Odie’s
@mohegansun2439
@mohegansun2439 3 жыл бұрын
why did you use a foam pad for osmo?
@affalada6868
@affalada6868 Жыл бұрын
Hey where's the mustache wax review?
@draggboy
@draggboy 3 жыл бұрын
I use pretty much nothing but Rubio on a fine piece of furniture, especially walnut. I even used it on my solid beech/walnut Benchcrafted clad Roubo workbench, despite the fact that the waxy slickness isn't ideal until it's worn in a bit... I just like the feel and protection. But there's nothing wrong with spraying lacquer or shellac and there's a reason fine woodworkers have done so since forever. There's an art to it that I consider an entirely separate skill to master in woodworking, especially in the cabinetmaking realm where stains are not a faux pas. I typically prefer to build fine furniture and apply Rubio but I have a wealthy client that asked me to do tons and tons of cabinetry and built-in casework out of hard maple in their house. They had an existing cabinet stain color and a custom profile for the mitered frame style raised panel cabinet doors. So I bought a moulding machine to build the tons of cabinet doors and had to learn the art of matching stains the way a professional architectural millwork shop does and then learn the art of laying down a beautiful lacquer finish. Now that I have an appreciation for the art of architectural millwork and fine cabinetry, I have a new respect for certain stains and spray finishes. They have their place and they take an order of magnitude more skill to do than laying down hard wax oils.
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
Aaron Dragg yep I’m with you. We do furniture primarily in our shop. I would use lacquer for painted surfaces and cabinetry (boxes) but I’d still use hard wax oil on doors and drawer faces. My whole thing is non material artifice. I’m ok with others not feeling the same about that. It’s just what I love to do and represent.
@PeterGoode1
@PeterGoode1 3 жыл бұрын
“Gasoline would be a great option” 🤣
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
Punch line 🔥
@naptownplaya32
@naptownplaya32 3 жыл бұрын
Didn’t mention cost. I know Rubio isn’t cheap. Not sure how the others compare.
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
Brandon Somerville I did mention cost. Rubio and osmo are almost identical in cost / coverage while odies and tried and true are nearly identical. You get a lot of coverage out of all of them and the prices aren’t very different. None of them have an edge
@drewt3210
@drewt3210 3 жыл бұрын
If you're looking for cheap, you may want to find another channel. We're quality-driven here :-) Best, @BranchAndFoundry
@danb8082
@danb8082 Жыл бұрын
T&T is substantially cheaper than Odies. Current prices for 9oz Odies is $45. That's $5.00 per ounce. T&T is $19 for 8 oz. or $2.38 an ounce. The 8oz bottle of T&T is the highest price per ounce. A pint is $1.65 an ounce and a quart is $1.33 per ounce. I've used both of these and agree they are very similar but I can buy a quart of T&T for less money than a 9 ounce bottle of Odies. The Odies is 4 times more expensive for a product that does the same thing. Odies does smell better though gotta give it that.@@WilliamDouglasCo hats
@ThomasRZack
@ThomasRZack 3 жыл бұрын
You didn’t try the mustache wax?
@SamWanamaker1
@SamWanamaker1 3 жыл бұрын
Any preference to which you think is most durable?
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
Sam Wanamaker I believe that they are all very durable and you have to make sure you follow the directions to each one. If applied correctly, I don’t think one has an edge over another. At least not that I’ve noticed so far.
@woody350ep1
@woody350ep1 3 жыл бұрын
Do you need to raise the grain with those hardwax finishes as well?
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
Jason Woodford I don’t know what everyone els does but I definitely raise the grain
@woody350ep1
@woody350ep1 3 жыл бұрын
@@WilliamDouglasCo thanks my dude. I figured it was still necessary but have never used one of these finishes to know for sure. Just trying to do some research to maybe do some projects in it and didn't want to waste my time with an unnecessary step if possible because, as you know, finishing sucks lol.
@atelier.lignum
@atelier.lignum 3 жыл бұрын
The downside of Osmo is that to have to wait at least 8 hours between coats. With Rubio it-s pretty fast.
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
Daniel J. Rubio is also meant to be one coat though.
@jamartin1
@jamartin1 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!💜
@brewsterly2927
@brewsterly2927 3 жыл бұрын
You are not giving Polyx®-Oil fair judgement: "The dry finish is food safe, as well as safe for humans, animals and plants. Polyx®-Oil Raw contains no biocides or preservatives." It is also fine for children's toys! From the MSDS: Respiratory protection: Not necessary if room is well-ventilated.
@johnathankoch1570
@johnathankoch1570 3 жыл бұрын
You're my idol.
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
It’s your world my dude. I’m just living in it 🙌🏻
@giorgiochristian7689
@giorgiochristian7689 3 жыл бұрын
Best at 100 grit and 120 grit above 150 the oil does not bond as well
@nonobrochacho240
@nonobrochacho240 2 жыл бұрын
You had me at gasoline. Subscribing.
@ArrghhMatey
@ArrghhMatey 3 жыл бұрын
this was hilarious. subbed.
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I really appreciate it!
@scottporush2545
@scottporush2545 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Have been looking forward to it since you mentioned it a few months back. Did you get a chance to test the durability differences? I’m a big Odie’s fan (it’s the only finish I use 👨🏻) but have always been told it’s not as durable as Rubio or Osmo. Wondering if you found that to be true?
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
Scott Porush man they are all the same. You just have to apply it correctly. I think most people don’t take seriously the importance of the application process
@scottporush2545
@scottporush2545 3 жыл бұрын
@@WilliamDouglasCo I think you’re totally right. Seems like that’s the case especially with the Odies since it is a bit more tedious to do correctly.
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
Scott Porush just have to follow them instructions!
@thwwoodcraft1449
@thwwoodcraft1449 3 жыл бұрын
Intro and river table dis earned a sub.
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
Yesss!!! Thank you!
@danielmock1006
@danielmock1006 3 жыл бұрын
That bleep tone at the end murdered my ears
@stevensrspcplusmc
@stevensrspcplusmc 3 жыл бұрын
Minn wax wipe on poly 👍😊
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
Never tried it
@stevensrspcplusmc
@stevensrspcplusmc 3 жыл бұрын
I use the satin it’s cheap and looks great.. use steel wool between coats and it’s like silk..would like to try some of the finishes that you use.👍😊
@ronalddagostino3674
@ronalddagostino3674 3 жыл бұрын
why didnt you show the results close and magnified? isnt that the whole question?
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
They’re all so similar it wasn’t necessary. You can’t even tell them apart without feeling them. The odies and tried & true look a little better but I couldn’t pick up on that in video.
@AudioPhun
@AudioPhun 3 жыл бұрын
Its funny that you say that you don't use poly but the Osmo is a poly. The Rubio is an epoxy.
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
They are both hard wax oil finishes bud
@JuiceBuzz
@JuiceBuzz 3 жыл бұрын
Osmo is not a poly. It actually allows the wood to breathe and is not a plastic coating which poly ultimately is. .
@michaelthompson5875
@michaelthompson5875 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great summary of these products. I thought Tried and True advertises all of its finishes as food safe but please don't quote me on that, I'm just going from memory. Oh and one point of clarification...mustache wax is NOT a suitable finish for black walnut? Hahahahahaha sorry I had to.
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
Haha I should have tried it!
@Jimbojam
@Jimbojam 2 жыл бұрын
people say "these ones" often and really, "these" is proper. "these ones" is redundant.
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 2 жыл бұрын
Got me
@chm1701
@chm1701 3 жыл бұрын
Well, I’ve liked it and I already subscribe. Oh, and this can be classed as my comment.
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
Chris Morris thank you Chris 🙏🏼
@chm1701
@chm1701 3 жыл бұрын
@@WilliamDouglasCo. No problem my friend. I was looking at your soap kit too, but sadly, it seems you don’t deliver to the UK... Yet! 😬 But it does look a rather fancy kit for my very simplistic dovetail boxes (I’m learning for fun and giving them to friends). Would you suggest any of the other finishing products in this video for a dovetail box? Perhaps Odies Oil? Thank you as always 👍
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
Chris Morris odies or tried and true!! Also.. you can look up how to make a traditional Scandinavian soap finish if you really want that! Wish I could ship to you but I’ve had some bad experience shipping overseas so far!
@chm1701
@chm1701 3 жыл бұрын
@@WilliamDouglasCo Once again, you’ve come up trumps with great advice. That’s brilliant. Thank you. I’ll take a look at the soap finish too. I really liked the finish yours gives, but I can understand about overseas delivery horror stories; it’s bad enough send things within our own countries 😂
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
Chris Morris haha that’s funny but also sad 😔
@Grabber10
@Grabber10 2 жыл бұрын
Osmo is definitely food safe
@pterodox123
@pterodox123 2 жыл бұрын
This is an application test, not time, penetration or durability test.
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 2 жыл бұрын
Yes that’s a good point
@bobripkey3924
@bobripkey3924 3 жыл бұрын
Rule number 1 🤣🤣🤣
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
😬😬😬😬
@aok2727
@aok2727 2 жыл бұрын
Too stinking funny.
@punkrockdave1000
@punkrockdave1000 3 жыл бұрын
But is that finish vegan friendly?
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
David Page 😂😂 you gon’ eat the damn thing?
@punkrockdave1000
@punkrockdave1000 3 жыл бұрын
@@WilliamDouglasCo thats one of my favorites.
@rusticresawed5933
@rusticresawed5933 3 жыл бұрын
Gold! 😂🤣😂🤣
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
I like to go back and rewatch the intro when I need a laugh
@davidellis251
@davidellis251 7 ай бұрын
Use gasoline on river tables 😂
@travisedwards9983
@travisedwards9983 7 ай бұрын
Just don't say anything negative about Odies or question anything. Owner will go completely off the rails on you and start saying some crazyyyyyy shit.
@bendoodson5208
@bendoodson5208 3 жыл бұрын
This is the best, I love it when you guys put your humor into the videos! Also, shop rule #1 on the board is just a great life tip in general and people should be aware of it.
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
Benny Doodson I didn’t mean for that to be in the video hahah
@bendoodson5208
@bendoodson5208 3 жыл бұрын
@@WilliamDouglasCo Haha I loved it man, gave me a good chuckle. Good video all up !
@UncleJoe1231
@UncleJoe1231 3 жыл бұрын
I started using Osmo about 6 months ago & absolutely love it!! Plus, it IS food safe!! the smell goes away & the truth is it does such a good job I never even noticed it. I usually start with the thin & then use the Poly-x for the final coat!! Anyone worrying about how long it takes to put a finish on doesn't really care about the finish!! Results are all I care about.
@buckhorncortez
@buckhorncortez 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone worrying about how long it takes to put on a finish is doing it professionally to make money and time spent means either charging more money or making less money. Time is a real consideration for professionals.
@johnb8807
@johnb8807 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. It’s lacquer or go home for me. Granted I’m very experienced with lacquer, altering sheens, etc… but given the dry time and protection it offers, none of these oils touch it.
@NoDiamondRanch
@NoDiamondRanch 2 жыл бұрын
... or there are other constraints, like finishing a floor where vacating an entire house for days on end isn't practical or possible. Or where there is a lack of space for finishing a large quantity of materials and they need to dry and get off the rack to make room for more...
@jeromechoquet2075
@jeromechoquet2075 Жыл бұрын
the odor is unbearable 😄
@UncleJoe1231
@UncleJoe1231 Жыл бұрын
@@jeromechoquet2075 Osmo doesn't have hardly any odor at all
@PEZ4949
@PEZ4949 3 жыл бұрын
OSMO is food safe. Although not tested for U.S. standards when it was imported from Germany, it meets European and German standards: "When dry, finish is safe for humans, animals and plants and is suitable for children‘s toys as per EN 71.3 (European norm) and is saliva-resistant and sweatproof according to DIN 53160 (German industrial norm)."
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the info!
@northroadwoodwork8616
@northroadwoodwork8616 3 жыл бұрын
He's alive! I'm a big fan of Danish oil, use tons of it, but I have to admit I've always felt some guilt on account of all the poor Danish souls that were pressed to make it.
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
North Road Woodwork thank you for watching! I haven’t used danish oil before. Is it similar to a hard wax oil?
@northroadwoodwork8616
@northroadwoodwork8616 3 жыл бұрын
@@WilliamDouglasCo It's actually a blend of oil with some amount of varnish in it. My other go to, especially for food safe, is pure Tung oil thinned with citrus solvent.
@woody350ep1
@woody350ep1 3 жыл бұрын
@@WilliamDouglasCo it's basically another version of a wiping varnish.
@Real.Estate.Report
@Real.Estate.Report 3 жыл бұрын
So you don't ever keep it simple and just use good old fashioned spray paint?
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
How in the hell did I miss this comment?
@TreeOfLifeWoodworking
@TreeOfLifeWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Personally for my commissioned work I will stick to Conversion Varnish forever. There is simply no superior finish in terms of long lasting protection. I don't wanna sell something that will look bad in a year from wear, or force customers to have to add more finish or refinish, etc.
@WilliamDouglasCo
@WilliamDouglasCo 3 жыл бұрын
Nathan Terepocki to each there own! I personally don’t like it.
@JayCWhiteCloud
@JayCWhiteCloud 2 жыл бұрын
O.K....!!!... someone owes me for the time it's taking me cleaning up the coffee I blew out my nose when he said..."Ah...gasoline would be a great option for that..."...LMAO...This is now one of my favorite channels though outside the scope of woodworking I do...I still love it here!!! As for the recommended finishes...Well...Er...Uh...???...NO...!!!...Sorry...you lost me on this one too...BIG TIME!!! Simply put, the reason "antiques" have the unmatched patinas they developed (a big part of their value!!!) is the means, methods, and material applications of their finishes...and those are all-natural and traditional in context...Thus, one either makes their own NATURAL finishes from raw materials...or...gets them blended by someone that knows what traditional finishes are... For professional to hobbyists that haven't "gotten there" yet on this skill set...go with old recipes and experiments or a place like "Heritage Finishes." Worked with these folks for over 30 years for big projects and usually purchase stock in 50-gallon barrels to blend exactly what is needed... Core "work-horse" materials...beeswax...pine rosin (or one of the Middle Easter/Asin plant rosin)...flax oil...walnut oil...tung oil...citrus oil as a cutter/carrier. These form the foundation for some of the best and oldest finishes in the world still today and are found on pieces over 2000 years old!
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