Fourth way: Overkill - Calculate both numbers by hand
@pneumaniac144 жыл бұрын
Even more over kill, take the logarithm of both sides and use binets log gamma functions.
@anindyaprithvi35854 жыл бұрын
@@pneumaniac14 even more overkill, use logarithm and Fermat's approximation
@MudahnyaFizik4 жыл бұрын
It's called the brute force
@shivansh6684 жыл бұрын
I think it is 1st one i.e. simple As the Michael said
@wasitahmid7494 жыл бұрын
Hyperkill subtract 50^99 FROM 99! In head and write the result in 10 secs
@vidblogger124 жыл бұрын
They are equal! I typed them both into my calculator, and they both evaluated to “overflow error”!
@lucassalomao48824 жыл бұрын
Kkkkkkkkkk
@Fierywell4 жыл бұрын
@@lucassalomao4882 ok?
@lucassalomao48824 жыл бұрын
@@Fierywell ok o que??
@Fierywell4 жыл бұрын
@@lucassalomao4882 oh spanish I see
@lucassalomao48824 жыл бұрын
A vc é gringo kk. Pelo nome "Pedro" achei q fosse BR irmao
@blackpenredpen4 жыл бұрын
I was expecting wolframalpha for the third method...
@MamuelMuel4 жыл бұрын
"by inspection"
@GKinWor4 жыл бұрын
isnt it
@anmoldeepsingh92814 жыл бұрын
Can you help me with number of digits in a factorial without a program... I really want to prove this by inequality of number of digits. Edit: Nevermind.. got it.. stumbled upon Stirling’s approximation
@paritosh46434 жыл бұрын
BPRP! Nice to see you here :)
@flutcubasahmet13034 жыл бұрын
😂
@CousinoMacul4 жыл бұрын
The way we know that all the pairings are greater than one is that the denominators (51×49, 52×48, ... ,99×1) are of the form (50+n)(50-n) = 50^2-n^2 < 50^2
@jesusthroughmary4 жыл бұрын
This is what I did to know in 5 seconds
@jesusthroughmary4 жыл бұрын
Still watching to see whether this is one of his three ways
@abderrahmanyousfi55654 жыл бұрын
👍🏻👍🏻
@takyc78834 жыл бұрын
That’s clever
@obst30854 жыл бұрын
Yeah, was very surprised to not see that by him, feels very intuitive
@dnaiel2 жыл бұрын
At 3:35, I think a great way to show that all of the denominators are smaller than the numerators is by using difference of squares. You can express every denominator as (50 - n)(50 + n) for 0 < n < 50. This is equivalent to 50^2 - n^2, which is always smaller than 50^2.
@simonkiesewetter7389 Жыл бұрын
I was looking for that.
@jamirimaj68804 жыл бұрын
1:44 "Notice 49 + 49 is 98, plus one is ... 50" I learn something new everyday lol
@patryslawfrackowiak66904 жыл бұрын
yeah, that was great :D
@xevira3 жыл бұрын
This must be that "new" math I've been hearing about.
@Scrub_Lord-en7cq3 жыл бұрын
@@xevira it’s called h (t)= am
@TheNatureWatcher3 жыл бұрын
I do that sometimes talking not about math
@jamirimaj68803 жыл бұрын
@@xevira alternative math lol
@danieljmarvin3 жыл бұрын
This is deeply related to 'e'. If you look at the power expansion of 'e', you'll find this form. It turns out the question of when the denominator starts to dominate the numerator is exactly a factor of 'e' away from the number. So, in this case, you'll see that 50 * e will be the place where the denominator starts to dominates the numerator. Now, floor of 50 * e = 135. So, (50^134) / (134!) is greater than 1, but (50^135) / (135!) will be less than 1. This then ties into the length of the side of the higher dimensional square, given an area of n!. So, 'e' is actually a constant that relates area and parameters between dimensions. As a consequence, you get the limit n / (n!)^(1/n) as n goes to infinity = e Try the limit out on wolfram alpha
@jedinxf73 жыл бұрын
awesome!
@hagenfarrell Жыл бұрын
@DukeOfDystopiaeither self taught, or they are a math major at uni.
@JPuree5 ай бұрын
When I plug this into wolframalpha, I get 50^134/(134!) < 1. The crossover point occurs between 132 and 133.
@Gochsener3 жыл бұрын
after having watched the first part: its basically squares vs. rectangles. when you have a set length of all sides combined, the surface area is always biggest when you make it a square. the longer and slimmer it gets, the less area it has (down to a line with no surface)
@Flimzes3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing, he just proved that for a given circumference, a square gives the largest area of any rectangle
@venky17773 жыл бұрын
Great observation
@martinsonnleitner55163 жыл бұрын
Thought exactly the same! Also way more elegant than the brute force induction! 👍👍
@paneerpulao3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I like to say it in this way (x)(x) > (x-a)(x+a)
@sirnate90653 жыл бұрын
This was exactly my first thought as well! Although I would've explained it much less clearly.
@randysavage10114 жыл бұрын
3rd way: super easy, barely an inconvenience
@tamarpeer2614 жыл бұрын
Comments: you could have used amgm Whoops! Whoopsie!
@crko344 жыл бұрын
Using wolfram alpha is tight
@riseciv79914 жыл бұрын
wow wow wow wow
@leif10754 жыл бұрын
@@tamarpeer261 whsts that arithmetic versus geometric mean you mean?
@AbhishekKumar-uu4uj4 жыл бұрын
I understand your reference
@caladbolg86664 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video! Though I think it would've been good to note that e.g. 49*51=(50-1)(50+1) , and 48*52=(50-2)(50+2) etc. so all of the denominators are of the form (50-a)(50+a) which is 50^2-a^2 so it's less than 50^2.
@divyanshaggarwal62434 жыл бұрын
I dont think it was necessary to make a rigorous proof of the statement.Though in an exam scenario, it would probably be necessary.
@wyseebbah71934 жыл бұрын
@@divyanshaggarwal6243 Yah, it definitely isn't necessary. It's much easier than calculating though as you don't even have to look at numbers. It's a bit harder to explain I would guess though.
@michawielgus98274 жыл бұрын
It actually is easier since you dont need to calculate 49*51 etc, just show that a^2
@plaplanet2 жыл бұрын
そうそう
@off4on4 жыл бұрын
Take logs on both sides, we have 99*log(50) > log(1) + ... + log(99) by Jensen's inequality since the logarithm is concave.
@TechToppers4 жыл бұрын
Bruh... I'm weak at inequality...
@samba2724 жыл бұрын
Jensen's inequality has a less or equal sign in it, not a less than sign.
@ahmedhamdy28703 жыл бұрын
Or take log base 99 equals !
@gamer9663 жыл бұрын
That's what I first thought! Kudos!
@Merlin19083 жыл бұрын
While true, using Jensen here is definitely overkill. The general case follows directly from AM-GM by noting the arithmetic mean of 1,2,...,n is (n+1)/2, so (n+1)/2 is at least the geometric mean, which is the n’th root of n!. Take n’th powers, and we get the general case.
@toddbiesel42884 жыл бұрын
1:45 2:20 ...and that's a good place to check your arithmetic.
@aamierulharith52944 жыл бұрын
I like the ending... for some reasons :p
@javizaragoza14634 жыл бұрын
10:08 That’s a silent way to stop
@ivanlazaro74444 жыл бұрын
Spanish troupe?
@javizaragoza14634 жыл бұрын
@@ivanlazaro7444 confirmamos
@elcalabozodelandroide23 жыл бұрын
@@ivanlazaro7444 confirmo
@yorgunkaptaan2 жыл бұрын
We could use Stirling's approximation too. n! ~ sqrt(2*pi*n)*(n/e)^n If we cancel some terms at the end: (1/2)^n > (1/e)^n we could get a pretty good correlation between two general forms!
@moonlightcocktail4 жыл бұрын
Take the 99th root of both sides and apply the AM-GM inequality.
@davidepierrat90724 жыл бұрын
yeah smh...
@Kokurorokuko4 жыл бұрын
wow, nice method!
@אביב-ת7ל4 жыл бұрын
that was what I thought
@pandas8964 жыл бұрын
There's one more
@pandas8964 жыл бұрын
Method
@iszslayermaxx99123 жыл бұрын
I guessed correctly from my experiences in carpentry and ordering materials. I thought it was interesting that perfectly square rooms only had a difference of 1 compared to rooms that had dimensions of the same square room +1 and -1 10 x 10 = 100 9 x 11 = 99 Extrapolating the method further, I learned it was the difference of squares. 10 x 10 example: From 100 9 x 11 = 99 difference of 1 squared 8 x 12 = 96 difference of 2 squared 7 x 13 = 91 difference of 3 squared 6 x 14 = 84 difference of 4 squared And so on. Math can strangely be fun especially showing the kids interesting tricks like this. Thank you.
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@Misteribel2 жыл бұрын
Why does this remind me of the “99 bottles of beer” song? 😝
@ashleyzinyk42973 жыл бұрын
I paired the terms of each series the same way that Michael did (99*1, 98*2, ... 51*49), and noted that each product has the form (50+k)(50-k). That equals 50^2-k^2. However, the pairwise products in 50^99 are always 50*50, and 50^2 is obviously larger than 50^2 minus k^2.
@CjqNslXUcM4 жыл бұрын
I'm sure we all figured this out as kids when we wondered which two numbers, that add up to the same sum, would make the biggest rectangle. the longer the rectangle becomes, the smaller the area, and a square is the most efficient rectangle in this way.
@enderallygolem3 жыл бұрын
The longer the rectangle the smaller the area I know what you mean but L
@3Black.1Red4 жыл бұрын
4th way. Apply the “engineer’s function” and make everything equal to 3.
@ianmoseley99104 жыл бұрын
3black1red Reminds me of the old comment about mathematicians want the exact answer, engineers are happy if the numbers are a reasonable match and astronomers are ecstatic if they have the roughly the same order of magnitude
@TS-jm7jm4 жыл бұрын
@@ianmoseley9910 brilliant
@Pandajannick4 жыл бұрын
oh yes, like that pie number
@neutronenstern.4 жыл бұрын
yea pi=3=e pi^2=g (thats actually pretty damn close due to the old definition of a meter being the length of a pendulum with a period of two seconds. With this definition g would be exactly pi^2 m/s^2 and if you are confused now since g has to be the same even if the def of a meter isnt the same, then you are not completely right. because g is 38622 inch/s^2)
@goguhu4 жыл бұрын
I went straight to thinking about area ... where we know the largest area (multiplication of the two sides) for a given circumference is when the sides are equal. So we know that n^2 > (n-k)*(n+k) for any k {1,n-1}
@anonymous_42764 жыл бұрын
Excellent! So you basically maximized the volume of a 99-dimensional cube given the sum of the lengths of it's sides is constant. I guess this can also be used to show the general case of ((n+1)/2)^n>n!
@DANGJOS3 жыл бұрын
Another way to think about it is that (x+n)(x-n) is always smaller than x^2 for any integer 'n' that isn't 0. Basically, having 99 of the same number multiplied together must be larger than an equivalent number of different numbers multiplied together. If you did (50^97)×(51)(49), it would also be smaller than 50^99, for the same reason.
@hach1koko4 жыл бұрын
A 4th way of doing it : the AM-GM inequality yields ((50+k+50-k)/2))^2=50^2>=(50+k)(50-k) so taking the product over the k's between 0 and 49 we get 50^100>=50*99! hence the result Edit : or (50+k)(50-k)=50^2-k^2
@joshuamason22274 жыл бұрын
Genius!
@think_logically_4 жыл бұрын
This is effectively the first method, only you proved the inequality, while I didn't notice the proof in the video. I did in less fashionate way, Consider trinomial x²-99x+2500 Since D=99²-10000=99²-100²0 for any x. In particular, k(99-k) n! (second method), from ((n+1)/2+k)((n+1)/2-k) < ((n+1)/2)². I believe this is simpler than by induction.
I thought the third method was only called "cheating" as sort of an expression to say it's figured out by doing some dirty tricks, like making some sort of a guess we couldn't possibly know and then proving it, but no... It's literally cheating. I didn't see that coming!
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@guilhermemartins82624 жыл бұрын
Nice video, as always, but I think that in the simple solution, when you talked about the "denominators increasing but being less than 50^2", you could, instead, just say that those pairs in the denominator are of the form (50-k)(50+k)=50^2-k^2, which is less than 50^2 for every k between 1 and 49 (both included). This way you don't need to explain why the denominators are increasing or even calculate the values of 50^2 and 49x51.
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@dewangsingla17894 жыл бұрын
I actually solved this question with the simple method as we know that for every positive integer x, x² is greater than (x+y)(x-y) where y is any positive integer.
@BlacksmithTWD3 жыл бұрын
Except when y = 0 of course. we can even tell how much greater/more using the formula: x^2 = (x+y) (x-y) + y^2 Don't these rules apply to negative integers for x as well? (-2)^2 > (-2+1) (-2 - 1) at least as long as x and y are both elements of Z it seems to work.
@petrospatrianakos91663 жыл бұрын
x^2 > (x+y)(x-y) because 0 > -y^2 (for y not equal to 0) x^2 > x^2 - y^2 x^2 > (x - y)(x + y). It applies for every x,y belonging to r, there are no restrictions except from y must not equal to 0, like Blacksmith said
@BlacksmithTWD3 жыл бұрын
@@petrospatrianakos9166 I take it you meant -y^2>0 (for y not equal to 0), or did you mean 0 > -(y^2) for any y not equal to 0? (notation methods tend to change over the years and my way may have been outdated by now :) though if one exchanges the > symbolfor a >= symbol (not sure how to type greater than or equal to symbol on a qwerty keyboard), then even y = 0 works. since if y = 0 then (x+y) (x-y) = x^2 so then it boils down to x^2 >= x^2 which is correct. any real number not equal to 0 for y gives an y^2 > 0 in the formula x^2 = (x+y) (x-y) + y^2 any real number for y gives an y^2 >= 0
@petrospatrianakos91663 жыл бұрын
@@BlacksmithTWD -y^2 is smaller or equal to 0, since any number squared is a non-negative number (not sure how it is called in english), and since it has a minus in front of it, it is a non-positive number (negative or 0). So you can either say 0 > -y^2 x^2 > x^2 - y^2 x^2 > (x - y)(x + y) (for y not equal to 0) or say 0 >= -y^2 x^2 >= x^2 - y^2 x^2 >= (x - y)(x + y) for every y, and the equality is true when y=0.
@petrospatrianakos91663 жыл бұрын
But x and y can be any number, not just a positive integer and y is not necessarily smaller than x like the original comment suggested.
@goodplacetostop29734 жыл бұрын
10:15 Don’t be too hard on yourself and don’t forget to stay hydrated. No homework today, sorry folks. If you want a particular topic for the next one, tell me.
@Guilherme-xp1tv4 жыл бұрын
Is this the first non spoken "good place to stop"?
@goodplacetostop29734 жыл бұрын
@@Guilherme-xp1tv I think it is
@adeolugboji36454 жыл бұрын
Can you do a counting/combinatorics question please?
@stephenbeck72224 жыл бұрын
Guilherme Castro Dela Corte, we need to get his kid to stroll up to the chalkboard and hold up a “that’s a good place to stop” poster.
@elihowitt41074 жыл бұрын
Something w inveriants
@mercedes9323 жыл бұрын
For the second method you can just used AM-GM and sub in 1, 2, 3…n and it comes out straight away
@boborulllz3 жыл бұрын
4th way: inequality of means. Take the 99th root of both terms. The result for 50^99 is just 50. For 99!, you write that the geometric mean is strictly less than the arithmetic mean which is (1+2+3+...+99)/99 = 50. Therefore, 99th root of 99! is less than 99th root of 50^99, so once you raise everything to power 99, you get that 99! < 50^99.
@graysonking163 жыл бұрын
Pre-watch guess: 50^99 Reasoning: both have 99 terms. I know that usually the central term multiplied with itself is bigger than outside numbers multiplied with each other. We'll see if it holds up.
@luislaracuente2 жыл бұрын
That was my logic too.
@lithium1914 жыл бұрын
1:44 "Notice 49 + 49 is 98, plus one is 50" Too many 50s to keep track of, I suspect
@david_ga84904 жыл бұрын
XD
@merlinrainbow28044 жыл бұрын
I felt like I was so good at maths when I heard this
@Ahmad-vi8xb3 жыл бұрын
Forth way: Use log10 (This can be helpful for very large numbers or powers) Let the symbols be: (n^x, x!) Your program should be: double a = 0.0, b = 0.0; for(int i=0; i
@장성민-t7c3 жыл бұрын
I think we can use also log function. 99!/50^99 = (99/50)(98/50)•••(2/50)(1/50) Use log function log(99/50) + log(98/50) + ••• + log(2/50) + log(1/50) < 0 [because, log(50/50) = 0 and (-log(1-(k/n))) > log(1+(k/n)) (n>0, k>0)] So 50^99 > 99! (I'm korean so I can't good english speaking. sorry guys)
@aradhya95502 жыл бұрын
How do you know -log(1-(k/n)) > log(1+(k/n)) (n>0, k>0)]
@taiyoshoe3 жыл бұрын
Fun problem! The first thing I thought of was to use the concavity of log. Which is very simple and also implies the AM-GM inequality and proves a pretty general version of this result.
@luizgilbertooliveiramessia22174 жыл бұрын
The "cheating way" was the best, I laughed a lot
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@dexter23922 жыл бұрын
I mean, you can use the Stirling's formula. N! is approximately equal to (N/e)^N * sqrt(2πN) when N is greater than 50 or so. The 2πN term is negligible. You can take the log of both sides for convenience and then plug in N=99. The result will be smaller than log(50^99), which means 99! is smaller than 50^99.
@darkshoxx4 жыл бұрын
Isn't it easier to use (n+k)*(n-k) =n^2-k^2
@DavidSmyth6664 жыл бұрын
Nice observation. This way you don’t need to do the whole induction proof
@DylanNelsonSA4 жыл бұрын
Isn't this essentially the first way that he showed us?
@darkshoxx4 жыл бұрын
@@DylanNelsonSA yeah, with proof by example, very hand-wavy
@strafeae46183 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about a problem like this the other day, just in two dimensions. If you’ve taken calc 2 you might know that in order to maximize area of a rectangle of fixed perimeter, you choose a square. This extends beautifully into this problem, which is essentially the same in 99 dimensions. We have 99 factors in both products, and to pick the greatest “volume”, we should choose the “square”, i.e. 50^99.
@Yougottacryforthis2 жыл бұрын
exactly, its congruent to simple max-min problems
@normalitee0os4 жыл бұрын
4th way : MULTIPLY BOTH SIDE BY ZEROES. And Tadaaaa You Get Equality.
@justanub46973 жыл бұрын
It doesn't work like that tho I mean it's a good joke, maybe
@kushalthaman31103 жыл бұрын
For a fourth method for comparing x=((n+1)/2)^n and y=n! we can calculate ln(x) and ln(y) where the latter is approximated using Stirling's approximation to O(ln(n))
@eituottavuutta90344 жыл бұрын
I honestly thought, that for the "cheating" way he'd just take out his calculator
@SadisticNiles3 жыл бұрын
The calculator gives up for factorials bigger than 69!
@apolloniuspergus92953 жыл бұрын
Mine goes up to 170!
@ZipplyZane3 жыл бұрын
@@SadisticNiles It all depends on what the maximum value your calculator can hold. The difference is large enough that any rounding is irrelevant.
@SadisticNiles3 жыл бұрын
@@ZipplyZane true, but I would guess that for most standard calculators that limit is e100.
@ZipplyZane3 жыл бұрын
@@SadisticNiles Yeah. I was actually thinking of the graphing calculator I used in math classes. I don't remember where it maxed out, but it was over e100. It wouldn't surprise me if it just used 64-bit floats, which max out around e300.
@TheSabian3212 жыл бұрын
Another "cheat" would be to take logarithms of both numbers. You'd then just compare 99log50 and log1 + log2 + ...+ log99.
@alexwu3583 жыл бұрын
Me after failing honor precalc test: Im gonna study hard for next test Also me at mid night: 50^99 or 99! well let's figure it out
@skrimmtv38913 жыл бұрын
Bruh same i have 81 rn
@alkankondo894 жыл бұрын
At 2:20, you can explicitly prove that quotients like (50*50 / 51*49) are greater than one, i.e. that the numerator is larger by noting that: 51*49 = (50+1)(50-1) = 50^2 - 1^2 < 50^2 = 50*50 or, more generally, for all real x,a >0, (x-a)(x+a) = x^2 - a^2 < x^2 = x*x. Thus, expressions of the form (x*x) / [(x+a)*(x-a)] are all greater than 1.
@adityamohan73664 жыл бұрын
I initially thought this was an overkill video. Missing your overkill vids.
@henselstep4 жыл бұрын
My method to calculate it in the head: log on both sides ad then see, that the mean value of log(50) - log(1)... log (50) - log(49) has to be bigger than the mean value of log(99)-log(50) ... log(51)-log(50). Therfore 50*log(50) has to be bigger than the sum of all log(i)
@alphapolimeris4 жыл бұрын
Oh my ! A concavity inequation (or whatever it's called in English). Nice and elegant !
@omerhybloom5574 жыл бұрын
Me at 3 am need to sleep when there is school tomorrow: Let's watch this cause why not
@haal03614 жыл бұрын
The first methode can be interpreted geometrically: Imagine a rectangle with the sides a and b, where a + b = 100. Calculating a*b means calculating the area of such a rectangle. So we can e.g build following rectangles: (99*1), (98*2), (97*3) and so on (looks familiar, right?) But as we (should) know: The bigest area of a rectangle with the same circumference (here: 2a + 2b = 200) is the square, in this case the square 50*50
@c_b50603 жыл бұрын
I like the way you think! Clever.
@andresfontalvo173 жыл бұрын
I think you mean with the same perimeter
@shivansh6684 жыл бұрын
One of the best ending ever on this channel , I loved it 🤩❤️
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@ikarienator4 жыл бұрын
Just use Stirling's approximation log(n!) ~ nlog(n/e). log(99!) ~ 99log(99/e), comparing with 99log(50). 99/e < 50.
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@棠-n6s4 жыл бұрын
I thought the cheating way is to compare 2^3 and 3! 😂
@FairArc4 жыл бұрын
Uh
@hasndsome3 жыл бұрын
But you have to prove the method 2 first to ensure that it works in this case.
@BlacksmithTWD3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call that method cheating. Especially if you also compared 4^5 with 5!, 6^7 with 7!, 8^9 with 9! and pointed out the emerging pattern to derrive the conclusion that 50^99 > 99!.
@棠-n6s3 жыл бұрын
@@BlacksmithTWD I think is to compare 3^5 with 5! , 4^7 with 7! , 5^9 and 9! It can be easily understood by the equation (x+y)(x-y)=x^2-y^2 less than x^2. For example, 99×1
@BlacksmithTWD3 жыл бұрын
@@棠-n6s My bad, I was too hasty, the comparisons are when considering in an even number n as follows : n^(2n-1) with (2n-1)! so that would give us 2^3 with 3!, 4^7 with 7!, 6^11 with 11! etc.
@varunrmallya53693 жыл бұрын
3:00 love how he says davaide
@aiseop314154 жыл бұрын
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@goodplacetostop29734 жыл бұрын
Michael will reach the 100K subs in December. I’d love to see him with the silver button from YT.
@nickcampbell38124 жыл бұрын
1:44 "49 + 49 is 98, +1 is 50"
@matthewlockard65994 жыл бұрын
Referring to the 50 in the middle
@nickcampbell38124 жыл бұрын
@@matthewlockard6599 I know, I'm just teasing.
@peterdecupis82962 жыл бұрын
in the first method, the denominators are products of the kind (a-n)*(b+n), with a=99, b=1, and n any natural from 0 to 48; if you assume that products are crescent, you get the disequation:(a-n)*(b+n)
@dhanvin44443 жыл бұрын
I started panicking when I saw there was hardly a minute for the video to end and he didn’t start to explain the cheating method.
@tanvisorout12173 жыл бұрын
Nice one xp
@ThwennTheOwner4 жыл бұрын
It is even simpler to show, that (a-1)*a*(a+1) = a^3 - a < a^3, or more generell (a-b)*a*(a+b) = a^3 - b^2*a < a^3 ( for a > 0). ==> 49*50*51 < 50*50*50, 48*49*50*51*52 < 50^5 and so on
@MrNoob_113 жыл бұрын
This probably falls under cheating as well, but it got me the answer. The geometric mean of ninety-nine 50's is easy to calculate, it's 50. The geometric mean of the integers 1 through 99 is less than its arithmetic mean and is therefore less than 50. Since both terms can be rewritten as (geometric mean)^99, 50^99 must be bigger since it has the larger geometric mean.
@Merlin19083 жыл бұрын
Definitely isn’t cheating. It’s using AM-GM smartly to prove the general case in a more insightful way than the induction.
The square is the rectangular shape with the maximal area given a fixed perimeter (it would be a circle if we consider any shape). Meaning that a rectangle with sides 50x50 has a greater area than a rectangle with sides 51x49, 52x48, 53x47, ..., 99x1, all of which are rectangles with the same perimeter as the square of side length 50. This can also been seen in 50^2 > (50+c)(50-c) for non-zero c (and equal for c=0), because (50-c)(50+c) = 50^2 - c^2.
@HeyRandal4 жыл бұрын
This is funny, my wife asked me the same question a few days ago! Fun video, thanks Michael. I think the simple explanation should be simpler. I answered the question in my head by thinking 9 * 11 < 100, done! That implies that 49*51
@spacescopex3 жыл бұрын
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@JNCressey3 жыл бұрын
Instead of induction, it's also simple to apply the first method to a general case. With the pairing off of m^2/((m-d)(m+d)) terms all being less than 1. where midpoint m=(n+1)/2, and differences d are in a range starting at 1 for odd n, or 0.5 for even n, with step size 1, and ending at m-1. You can easily see m^2>(m-d)(m+d) by geometry or by difference of two squares: (m-d)(m+d)=m^2-d^2.
@iooooooo14 жыл бұрын
For the 'cheating' way, I thought you were going to apply the Stirling approximation for n!. Even though it is 'only' an approximation there are bounds on the error term in the approximation that I'd expect to be able to use to turn the argument into a rigorous proof. Haven't actually worked this out on paper.
@JakkuSakura4 жыл бұрын
I believe that MMA has magic to deal with precision
@SeLFlo3 жыл бұрын
another way. take 50 * 50 vs 49 * 51. its basically 50 * 50 vs 50-1 * 50+1.which is 50^2 - 1. 50^2 - x is always
@filipe_paixao4 жыл бұрын
huuunm [ (50-n)*(50+n)=50² - n² ] 50² > 50² - n²
@RS-do2rb3 жыл бұрын
Me too
@gambini57772 жыл бұрын
for really large numbers one could also use Stirlings formula
@shivansh6684 жыл бұрын
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@spacescopex3 жыл бұрын
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@Teja260519953 жыл бұрын
You could also use Stirling's formula; 99! ~ [(99/e)^99 ] * sqrt(198 pi) < 38^99
@andreamarino954 жыл бұрын
There is another approach for the general case: use AM-GM inequality. (99!) ^(1/99) < (1+.. +99) /99 = 50 Watch out: the inequality is strict because involved numbers are different!
@unhealthytruthseeker3 жыл бұрын
I used the Sterling approximation and prime factorizing both sides (with the approximation that 3 ~ e) in order to give a back of the envelope argument that 50^99 is bigger.
@englishmuffinpizzas3 жыл бұрын
Was looking for this in the comments! I did this as well and it leads to a nice intuition for when this is true and an estimation of the ratio of the two numbers
@JJCUBER4 жыл бұрын
1:44 49+49=98, 98+1=50 🤔😉
@btCharlie_4 жыл бұрын
2:15 - did you mean to say "greater than 1"? 50^2 is always greater than (50+x)(50-x), so all those groupings resolve in something greater than one? It becomes apparent with the last iteration: (50*50) / (99*1) is obviously much larger than 1. No? I'm confused.
@adrienchai8394 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think that was a slip of the tongue.
@btCharlie_4 жыл бұрын
@@adrienchai839 Yeah I'm sure of that after finishing the video, he then switched to calling it greater than 1 🙂 Perhaps I shouldn't have been so trigger happy with commenting before finishing....
@timewalker66543 жыл бұрын
Thats the kind of question we get in JEE where we don't even have enough time .
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@Хорошийшахматист Жыл бұрын
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@speeshers4 жыл бұрын
This is a quick numerical way someone could do on their calculator: Take ln() of both sides, so we have 99*ln(50) and ln(99*98*...*2*1) = Sum from k=0 to k=99 of ln(k). This way, one could raise both sides to the power of e after computing numerical values and tell by how much one side is greater than the other! :)
@DonCherrysDream4 жыл бұрын
If you take the natural logarithm of both sides you get 99*ln(50) vs ln(99!). Which can be written as ln(99) + ln(98) + ln(97)+.....ln(2)+ ln(1). 99*ln(50) will always be greater than ln(99!) Because of the way the natural logarithm increases very slowly. Therefore (99*ln(50))/(ln(99!)) >1 So 50^99 > 99!
@elchingon123464 жыл бұрын
I love induction because it’s like answering “Why is this true?” with “Because math says so”
@Joefrenomics3 жыл бұрын
… You’re just showing the previous case implies the current case. Nothing fancy.
@theyksplinter39753 жыл бұрын
The first solution can be described in one sentence: The surface of a rectangle with fixed circumference maximazes when it is a square.
@dzsman3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant
@McGliga3 жыл бұрын
My way was faster, easier and just as reliable! I basically went "idk 50^99 just feels bigger" and, clearly, I was right
@bassboy141102 ай бұрын
There's also a connection here to squares maximizing area for a fixed perimeter, i.e. n^2 > (n+1)(n-1). I think if you proved that generally, then you could apply it here.
@adi777-k74 жыл бұрын
The simple method is actually obvious. Why the complicated "general" method? Basically every term over there is 50*50/(50 - x)(50 + x) which is 50^2/(50^2 - x^2) which is always >= 1. QED
@granaro82364 жыл бұрын
I would have simply stated that it is well known that they hyper-rectangle with the higher hypervolume is the hypercube.
@princejangra12314 жыл бұрын
Just posting a comment before it hits again in everyone's recommendation
@animosityl3 жыл бұрын
The first thing that came to my mind was "a square has a bigger area than a rectangle when the perimeters are the same". Chose 50^99 instinctively. (similar but shortened train of thought to the simplified method).
@pietrodicello67314 жыл бұрын
1:48 :"Notice 49+49=98+1=50" ExCuSe Me WtF?!! 😂😂
@matthewlockard65994 жыл бұрын
Referring to the 50 in the middle, the 98th exponent + 1 is 50.
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@npicard4 жыл бұрын
"98 + 1 is 50" Hmmm, is it?
@HeroBrine127Gaming Жыл бұрын
I happened to check the ratio 99! / 50^99 and used GM ≤ AM inequality ... and it straight up gave the max value to be 1 , obviously meaning that 50^99 is bigger.
@bsuperbrain4 жыл бұрын
Just a quick note guys: relying blindly on a software without any proof is very dangerous. :D
@troublemonkey1_6264 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure I can trust wolfram alpha
@mrminer0711662 жыл бұрын
3:45. Inspired by Gauss summing the first hundred integers, why not use difference-of-squares? 50 * 50 / (50+1)(50-1) = 50 * 50 / (50 * 50 -1) is obviously larger than one, and similarly down the row.
@WindowsXP_YT4 жыл бұрын
50^99 > 99!
@mtaur41133 жыл бұрын
You can group the factorial as pairs (a+b)*(a-b) = a^2-b^2 < a^2. Here a=50...
@anandjee29014 жыл бұрын
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@aurochrok63411 ай бұрын
In method 1 there’s no need to calculate . All the denominators (but the center point 50/50) are (50-k)(50+k) = 50^2 - k^2 < 50^2
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@bot240322 жыл бұрын
I would go with using the AM-GM inequality for all the numbers from 1 to 99: their arithmetic mean is 50 and their geometric mean is ⁹⁹√(99!)
@fleabag6314 жыл бұрын
OR you can recognise that the maximum product of numbers that sum to a constant is when those numbers are equal. eg. x + y + z = c, maximum x*y*z occurs when x=y=z=c/3 The terms of 50^99 have the same sum as 99! (see the pairings as in the first method, pairs sum to 100 with a 50 left over), thus 50^99 will be larger.
@ahramsamuelfeigenbaum51913 жыл бұрын
Related to the AM-GM approach is using the concavity of the logarithm function
@user-nw5te4mo1q4 жыл бұрын
2:31 I checked. It’s wrong 50*50=2500 51*49=2499 2500/2499 is bigger than 1.
@lePirateMan3 жыл бұрын
I didn't notice the factorial sign at first and thought you were comparing 50^99 to 99
@NeunEinser3 жыл бұрын
Essentially, especially visualized by the easy method at the start, you are showing that given the perimeter of a rectangle, a square will maximize the area. 99+1, 98+2, ... 51+49 all equal 100, so does 50+50, that's the perimeter. Now, if you replace the +s with *s, 50*50 is the biggest. Since you can always re-order the terms this way, the general proof shows that for an arbitrary whole number perimeter >= 2.