Good Job, this video has picked up on the YT algorithm compared to your SMT 5 one.
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
And all of this wouldn't be possible without you BuffMaister, thanks for your huge help 💙
@ianleather56992 жыл бұрын
@@CarlosMW The algorithm has accepted Carlos as the new Messiah of the SMT youtube communitity
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
@@ianleather5699 you're making me blush man 😳 Hopefully someday I'll be part of the SMT youtubers group (even though my channel is focused to cover more than just this franchise xD)
@anakpinguin39422 жыл бұрын
The legend himself commented
@balanceherosmt71702 жыл бұрын
Kazuya of SMT 1 suffered the most imo. He was just a normal school kid who was caught up in the war between Law and Chaos and in the end, he lost everything and everyone he held dear to with only Yuka and Pascal/Cerberus by his side while everyone else was trying to kill him while the other protagonists (aside of Aleph's fate and the SMT V protag in the true Neutral ending) has more support.
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
In fact, his life could have been a little bit better if Yuka/Aoi didn't disappear after the events of the first game. Aleph might reincarnate as a person with multiple friends & loved ones, but he still going to suffer in another way. Nahobino was lucky enough to avoid being cursed by an omnipotent being, but he will still be a solitary guardian for the rest of the eternity...or until SMT 6 happens. That's why I didn't give the win to Kazuya, but he still had a shitty life nevertheless...which is not something to be proud of.
@yunnibitchero99852 жыл бұрын
Not to mention what happened to him in SMT 2.....yikes...
@melvinstevens3237 Жыл бұрын
Aogami : young man everyone around you now is lost in this hell They could die at any moment Nahobino: they are so plain that I don't even care
You mean If... heroine? I'll talk about her in the Persona heroes video
@ArshadZahid_nohandleideas2 жыл бұрын
@@CarlosMW Both SMT if… protagonists fill the exact same role so yeah just refer to Tamaki. I'm expecting you to cover Tadano in the SMT spin-offs video.
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
Sure! I won't forget her, i promise c:
@absoluteanisel1032 жыл бұрын
The tragic thing with Demifiend in my opinion is that he went from an ordinary boy that visited his teacher in hospital to suddenly losing his parents, family, friends and everything he knew and loved right in front of his eyes by someone he trusted. Then he is thrusted into a harsh environment, losing his humanity in the process and left to search for his reason in this new world and his friends, his only anchor to an old world, slowly turn against him and change beyond what he knew and having to end them. I feel like he suffered a whole lot without the game spelling it out or without him being able to grieve due to survival. Or im thinking too much about it.
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
Nah, thinking too much about a protagonist's life is quite common when we don't know how his/her past was, and the SMT protagonists are the perfect example of "thinking too much" haha
@cccherry4334Ай бұрын
I was thinking about the good ending of smt 3, and It seems that demi fiend lives in a dormitory, like persona's 3 protagonist. (I might have wrote somethings wrong)
@Ryan914876 ай бұрын
Also for the fact that Aleph was literally MADE in a lab, then the embryo he was then implanted into a woman, then taken from the mother after birth and aged up in a vat like the OTHER FOUR. His whole life was nothing but living like a puppet for Tokyo Millennium to fulfill the role of savior.
@bladeblaster12972 жыл бұрын
What do you mean he only killed his best friend (things I would just like to add about Flynn)? When Kiccigiori burned he lost the home where he had lived his whole life. One of the lines from the villagers implies his parents didn’t survive the attack. Not to mention the instant he is inducted into being a samurai he is not allowed to return home unless on a mission. It seems weird stuff from the other endings aren’t covered like Flynn sacrificing himself in the law ending. It’s also implied in the peace route Apocalypse while Flynn was captured he had his mind messed with by Krishna. Also what happens to him in anarchy is arguably as bad as what happens to Aleph you know becoming the eternal slave of a teenager. Then said teenager who enslaved him kills everyone he was trying to protect and forces him to help him do so making his sacrifice worthless and he’s just stuck unable to do anything about it. It’s pretty fucked up. Not to mention it’s literally just after he escaped Krishna’s grasp by being murdered.
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
This is definitely the most interesting comment I've read. It seems I skip the fact that Flynn might have lost his family due to the demon invasion in his homeland, needless to say, the only reason why I didn't analyze every single ending of IV is that I'd have to do the same for every game, I did only talk about the Neutral ending for being the canon one (4A pretty much confirmed it). This also applied to 4A, I talked about both endings because until this day, there isn't any confirmation and either implication of which route is the "true" one, so I talked about both endings to give Flynn and Nanashi more facts to discuss. Maybe you're right to say that Flynn isn't the mainline SMT hero with the less miserable life, however, I think being slaved by a 15 years old kid is "better" than being petrified by the Archangels (which is also an implication made by me) or being cursed for the rest of the eternity and also skip 1/4 of your life thanks of some corrupted government. Still, I respect your opinion about Flynn, he lost many friends and loved ones on the path to become the savior of Tokyo. btw thanks for watching my video, and for taking the time to write such interesting comment, you made me change my mind about him 0: .
@MegaKillerwolf123 Жыл бұрын
I think the SMT 1 protagonist might have it worse. If your theory is correct about The Hero being a statue, he legit cant do anything until he is destroyed or unstoned. Atleast with Aleph even though he is cursed to repeat cycles, he can still help those that need it and that is good enough for Aleph to keep going regardless of his pain. Also atleast Aleph still has his mom “try not to feel bad about it”
@CarlosMW11 ай бұрын
It's still weird seeing your mom the same age as yours lol
@grandaaa2 жыл бұрын
listening toki's dialogue is pure torture so nanashi clearly suffered the most
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
"B-b-but she's a 14 years-old kawaii tsundere girl, she's so cute that you don't understand how deep her character is 😭😭😭"
@kaylevy71072 жыл бұрын
This is a great idea for an SMT video. KUDOS. Aleph definitely suffered the most. I feel like older SMT has so much more destruction and deeper consequence than the newer games. Though it is route dependent like Apocalypse with its anarchy route which is just plain selfish and brutal and defies the point of the whole meaning of the story as far as being with your friends go. Noticed strange journey was vacant but you addressed that you forgot in another comment which is fine. This definitely deserves more views.
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
The older SMT protagonist such as Aleph, Kazuya & Nakajima from the Megami Tensei games had some of the most horrible lives seen in an RPG, that is what makes them so special, unlike Nanashi or Nahobino. And yeah, I made the mistake of not including Space Marine & SMT Nine protagonists for not investing enough time in researching information, as I said in that comment below, I'll add them in the Spin-offs SMT heroes video. Thank you so much man, I hope this video gets more known in the SMT community c:
@triggeredlegs2 жыл бұрын
this is an incredible idea for a video and i wish i was the one who thought of it (great editing by the way!!)
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
C'mon, don't feel bad for it :( You can still make you own video with your opinion, not for not being the 1st video of the topic means its gonna be a bad one, if you motivate to make a video similar to this one please let me know, i'll gladly watch it. And thank you so much, i'm happy that you enjoyed my simple editing 💙
@panth3r0722 жыл бұрын
I actually plan on making videos about the characters separately in due time, but I do think the context of suffering would bring quite a lot of different answers. Take Flynn for example. I'd say he's a high candidate for suffering when looking at how damn near meaningless his actions are without Nanashi's involvement. Flynn choosing Law or Chaos will only repeat the cycle for him to be born again and go through it over and over again. (There's even a sidequest with Ixtab in Blasted Tokyo *offering* Flynn Paradise through death or to live through endless suffering). Even when Flynn goes Neutral he can't catch a break after the Divine Powers are involved. Anarchy route will have him killed only to be resurrected as a puppet (-ish). The best possible route for him is Bonds in that case. Then there's the relativity of said suffering. Kazuya having his mother killed and his 2 friends turning on him, one for not joining their cause, the other practically out of jealousy, and "theoretically" petrified by the angels only to get swallowed alongside Abbadon, with another indication of his death being angles dropping a bridge on him (such a heroic way to go out, right?) on TOP of the Apocalypse DLC inferring that his reincarnation cycle was permanently cut by YHVH, I don't think many would argue him being done the most dirtiest of all the protagonists. But the context of Aleph having all of this responsibility being placed on top of him as he goes on could render a normal person engulfed with madness. A "boy" whose engineered into being a Messiah raised as a gladiator finding out his real name from a perceived total stranger and his companion that is not Beth (Hiroko) turns out being his f*cking MOTHER, being asked by Lucifer or Satan, 2 powerful godlike beings to join their respective paths in which he has to fight God himself at the end of the day, is now left to figure out where the future of the world will go. YHVH punishing this man for basically existing with all of these chips on the table. To keep it short (yes, all of that is the short version because I can go on), the context and the relativity of said suffering of each protagonist is what I think should also be held in high regards on this subject, but that's just my take on it. Great video though!
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
After reading your analysis for Flynn, Kazuya and Aleph, you SHOULD do the videos you're planning to do Every SMT hero is interesting on his own, and the way you explain their lifes & tragedies is very catchy, if you manage to upload an Hero analysis please let me know, I would love to watch a video with a deep explanation like you gave now c:
@panth3r0722 жыл бұрын
@@CarlosMW Will do! ^_^
@Emery1012 жыл бұрын
“Attain godhood and murder EVERYTHING.” Dagda, post apocalypse. Edit: Don’t forget to push in Stephens shit in the Diamond Realm to remind him of the pecking order.
@KaiVellichor2 жыл бұрын
Someone else already said it too but I'm honestly suprised KZbin recommended me this. Good shit, keep it up!
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
I know the feeling, I was also surprised considering my channel doesn't have enough reach haha Thanks man, I will! 💙
@allergyjelly2 жыл бұрын
The bullets points are the best part of this video lmao, not enough people are talking about them. Such a great idea for a video, great work.
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
You're the only one who mentioned the bullet points, which was the detail that took me the most to make it "funny" xD And thanks a lot man, I appreciate it
@MinhLe19303 Жыл бұрын
I actually not sure if SMT1 hero is THAT miserable. Sure, what happened to him was tragic, but there are few comments that hinted that he's not regretted making some miserable choice like killing his friends, as Lilith commented that he would kill his friend so casually. Not only that, some games categorized him as "Dark-Neutral," making me believed that he, like Yakumo in SMT5, uphold humanity to an extreme that he would kill any otherworld beings indiscriminately without remorse. I can imagine his mother's death birth his hatred to demon and also angels and gods for their genocide, and his friends chose either sides was angered as betrayal and intensify his hatred for otherworld beings, rather than being sad that there's no other way.
@CarlosMW Жыл бұрын
That's a different take on how I saw Kazuya as a character, but I can't say you're wrong. You reminded me that Kazuya is a secret enemy in IF... and he's also a Dark-Neutral guardian; sure, his life didn't become worst for killing Yuji or Takeshi, but everything else that he had to be through definitely sucks.
@MinhLe19303 Жыл бұрын
@@CarlosMW I could be wrong though since I didn't play the game yet.
@CarlosMW Жыл бұрын
@@MinhLe19303 You should give it a try man It's not a bad game, its my favorite MegaTen unironically speaking Watch my SMT 1 comparison video if you wanna know which version is the one I recommend 👀
@Noriako2 жыл бұрын
Me encantó desde la introducción hasta el final, es que te quedó muy bueno, excelente trabajo y estoy muy muy orgullosa y feliz de ver como has ido mejorando y creciendo, TKM💖💖💖
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
Muchas gracias, no sabes cuanto lo aprecio de ti
@fenrirlives22262 жыл бұрын
I'd put Flynn high in the suffer ranking by virtue of him having his entire life and sacrifices rendered meaningless by bad writi- I mean, another protagonist's actions, but I definitely think Demi Fiend is at the bottom. That boy woke up and chose violence lol
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
I must confess, the only reason why Flynn is so low in this video is for how badly 4A was written, it wasn't his fault, but the game didn't make him enough justice u_u. Yeeeep, Demi-Fiend deserves to be ranked so low for how he chose to become the strongest living being in exchange for his world.
@twohooks35332 жыл бұрын
The "try not to feel too bad" line is a mistranslation by a fan lmao
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
Really? Then it has to be the most insensitive & funny mistranslation ever written
@dailydoseofvitaminc65652 жыл бұрын
@@CarlosMW I think the mistranslation fits better tbh, in the official translation Chaos Hero comes off as weirdly annoyed for no real reason
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
I see 0: the mistranslation made the Chaos Hero look more human, which was a detail that made me smile back then haha.
@dailydoseofvitaminc65652 жыл бұрын
@@CarlosMW Yeah, in general it seems like most of the mistranslations for the fan translation serve to make chaos seem a bit more sympathetic and law a bit less, and some people really hate that, but personally, the official translation isn’t as natural dialogue wise, so it’s a trade off I’m willing to take
@twohooks35332 жыл бұрын
@@CarlosMW I think the fan who mistranslated it was biased against law for some reason or just didn't get the tone that was meant to be conveyed.
@Genethagenius2 жыл бұрын
Really good video! Found out about it from the Megaten reddit!
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! The MegaTen reddit always has been so kind with me, I'm really happy for having their support
@FlynnMegaTensei Жыл бұрын
Finally the SMT trauma olympics!
@CarlosMW Жыл бұрын
Hey It's nice to see you commenting on this video...again!
@andresalonsomartinez30702 жыл бұрын
Poor Aleph, but at least he did see Lady Fury naked. Also, I think there is no doubt wich Persona protagonist have suffered the most
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
Seeing a naked demon for the price of being cursed for the rest of eternity? fuck it, where do I sign?
@kerryvanskonsol7922 жыл бұрын
@@CarlosMW well, actually shin megami tensei persona 2 eternal punishment main male protagonist actually suffers too.
@del40282 жыл бұрын
Thanks Reddit notifications for letting me know another fellow chilean who likes SMT series. You deserve another sub, bro! O como decimos por aquí, buena bro! Un placer conocer más chilensis de buen gusto. Me suscribo Edit: basically every SMT protagonist had a tough life. I consider that something inspirational. No matter how screwed and hopeless the things appeared to be. They all kept on fighting. I think Flynn suffered the same. He canonically lost all of his family and friends of Kiccigorgi, as well as Nahobino, he discovered through his adventure his world wasn't that real, and at any ending he lost all of his fellows but one. That sucks.
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
How did you find out that I'm Chileno? If I remember I didn't say something about it in the video...aside from the subtitles of course. And yeah, having a tough life seems to be the only requirement to be a full-time SMT hero/heroine. Y gracias wn, aprecio mucho todo el apoyo que me da gente como tu y el reddit de SMT.
@del40282 жыл бұрын
@@CarlosMW Tu sección de "about" o "Acerca de" xd Me llamó la atención por el par de comentarios en español que respondiste aquí, y le eché un ojo a eso
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
@@del4028 puta la wea me descubrieron xD Si, soy Chileno y tambien fan de SMT, Dios si castiga 2 veces 😭
@del40282 жыл бұрын
@@CarlosMW ok but try not to feel too bad about it
@chibibeetle Жыл бұрын
Oe del me debí una Switch hace 1 año+😭😭😭😭😭
@EmeraldRay2K2 жыл бұрын
Lol, the joke about there not being any Nahobino fans. I liked the video and the editing! I hope we do get that spinoff video someday.
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! It seems that video will become a reality after all hah
@renren476182 жыл бұрын
I'm a Nahobino fan One of my favorite Smt protagonists, V story indeed sucks but Nahobino is cool and has an amazing visual Also he has the coolest skills Story wise i would stay with Demi Fiend or Aleph
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
A Nahobino fan is here?! I thought you were an extinct species.... (jk) I put that joke in the video because of how recent V is.
@jellyface4012 жыл бұрын
Flynn es el mas princeso ¡Confirmado!
@Richter4512 жыл бұрын
Holy shit I didn't know that the ps1 version of smt 1 is coming out in the near future. Gotta replay it again when it comes out
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully, more people will do the same c:
@naokikashima52212 жыл бұрын
Holy fuck is richter from hotline miami series Im your greatest fan dude
@Richter4512 жыл бұрын
holy fuck thats Naoki alias Demi-fiend from the Shin Megami Tensei series im your decently big fan dude
@PakYanaNi2 жыл бұрын
Buffmeister is a generous guy
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
BuffMaister is such a nice guy, every time I want to make an SMT video, he allows me to use the footage he recorded, without him my SMT content won't be possible.
@youngkappakhan2 жыл бұрын
it definitely comes down to either kazuya or flynn. could lean towards flynn if you consider the white ending, where it's not too much of a stretch to say he's developed ptsd and suicidal tendencies after the shit he's seen, but probably more towards kazuya if you look at apocalypse, where flynn seems well off, instead nahobino, nanashi and demi fiend can all achieve a world where all of their suffering is retroactively erased & none of their friends die, and aleph is a test tube baby so he didn't really have any past life or friends that he had to abandon to reach his goal so it's much more questionable for him than it is for the other protagonists if he even has feelings towards whatever is going on around him
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
Kazuya might be, but Flynn? he suffered basically the same as Kazuya (probably lost his parents, kill his friends, saw how his homeland was ruled by celestial rulers, etc). Flynn at least got a happy ending if we count 4A's Freedom ending as canon, Kazuya died/was petrified by the Archangels inside a cave, and even though Aleph was an artificial human, he was brought to term and two days later was fighting against demons to survive, if that isn't a shitty life, I don't know what it could be.
@youngkappakhan2 жыл бұрын
@@CarlosMW that's why i took multiple endings of the IV saga into account for Flynn. since SMT II is a full on sequel to the original and not a "what if" scenario like Apocalypse, it sets Kazuya's fate in stone (no pun intended). for Flynn it just depends on which outcome you personally consider canon for him since he doesn't really reach one canonical conclusion like Kazuya did. I think their lives up to the endings of their respective games are about equal in terms of suffering otherwise though
@youngkappakhan2 жыл бұрын
While I'm at it I think we can agree Demifiend definitely suffers the least. dude doesn't even break a sweat about his situation hes just like "oh shit it's the apocalypse. aight i'll fix this and be home in time for dinner"
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
Oof, if I'd taken all the multiple endings from the mainline series into consideration this video's duration will be at least one hour in total, that's basically why I chose to pick the most canon one per game; though I still respect everyone's opinion, I've seen people in the comments saying Kazuya/Aleph/Demi-Fiend/Flynn/Nanashi and even Nahonino deserved the first place, which I find it fascinating not gonna lie haha. And yeah, at least we agree on one thing, and that's the Demi-Fiend is one of the protagonists who suffered the least, his situation was so bad and difficult to process that he just said "oh no, my world has been destroyed. ...fuck it, let's destroy it even more."
@jellyface4012 жыл бұрын
Remember suffering is measured on how it feels not what happened.
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
Is that so? Damn, is the video's tittle wrong then? D:
@jellyface4012 жыл бұрын
@@CarlosMW Sorry for not giving context but what I mean is. Demifiend passed through some horrible stuff but did not have time to face it and really feel it. Plus being half demon made him a certified blockhead waiting to ha the ball lifted too soon on the final battle.
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
@@jellyface401 he suffered a lot that's for sure, but he knew where he was getting into after Metatron, Hijiri (probably) & Mother Harlot told him about how the Kalpas makes a human lost its humanity
@Kira22558 Жыл бұрын
Kazuya suffer so much...
@CarlosMW Жыл бұрын
I know :(
@brenden72452 жыл бұрын
This was pretty good. Keep it up
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
Thank you man I will! :D
@demi-femme48215 ай бұрын
I mean, God, where do you even start with Nanashi? -Had to grow up in SMT IV Tokyo -Watched his mentors die -Literally died -Had to sell himself to Dagda just to come back to life -Got forced to release Krishna, which then led to the deaths of thousands of people, for which the blame was laid on him by everyone in Tokyo -Had all of Tokyo demanding he be killed -Watched his foster father die -Watched Asahi be eaten by Shesha, a monster that he was forced to release -Either has to kill all of his friends or experience slowly dying depending on the route Like, IVA has Persona levels of wish fulfillment (and mid writing in general) but damn does Nanashi go through the wringer.
@CarlosMW5 ай бұрын
And to make things worse, he's still a kid
@prcervi2 жыл бұрын
4A is the one game i actually really liked, yeah is a pretty big downgrade in some regards to 4 but it didn't give me a spreadsheet stress attack trying to land the good ending like 4 did i didn't have access to the consoles needed to play the other games
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
Being honest with you, I too enjoyed 4A, the story may suck compared to other games, but the characters gave the series a "fresh air" from the edgy and sad world-building.
@Bladehound836 ай бұрын
I'm gonna be real with you, despite all of Apocalypse's shortcomings, I probably would have still liked it... ...If Nozomi and Toki weren't in it.
@prcervi6 ай бұрын
@@Bladehound83 nozomi is tolerable and decently written, yeah i get the toki hate though
@julinofooly2 жыл бұрын
21:55 this is the most bonkers line ever out of context lmao
@raptorskilltor4554 Жыл бұрын
Nanashi bc he had to remember he was reincarnated or the fact that his reincarnated sister has a crush on him
@CarlosMW Жыл бұрын
Who was his reincarnated sister again? I forgot :c
@raptorskilltor4554 Жыл бұрын
@@CarlosMW Asahi
@CarlosMW Жыл бұрын
@@raptorskilltor4554 ooooh you're right
@TheGuyWhoAsked694202 жыл бұрын
Love this vid mannn
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much man! 💙
@frscproduction62834 ай бұрын
Which mainline Shin Megami Tensei Protagonist Suffered the Most? Me: Good luck for that
@august...48472 жыл бұрын
Godlike video 😎
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! 💙
@VoltitanDevАй бұрын
25:07 Kazuya and Doomslayer would make for an interesting duo.
@muijiwara2 жыл бұрын
damn this is like gambling, I had my bets on Aleph since the video started, I didn't know much about smt II but I knew that Aleph went through some bs
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
I know, right? My idea was to make it look like gambling, I'm glad it worked out perfectly (at least, with you haha) Yeah, the older SMT heroes had to live such horrible events
@minemekhi2 жыл бұрын
the editing is so good fr keep at it bro
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much c: I'm glad you like it!
@fuckingking67962 жыл бұрын
1:Kazuya (smt 1 protagonist)
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
Can't argue with that You're literally the Fucking King :(
@fuckingking67962 жыл бұрын
@@CarlosMW YEP
@wesleybcrowen18 күн бұрын
Tamaki Uchida from SMT If.. definitely came out of her predicament just fine.
@CarlosMW17 күн бұрын
She just had to die on multiple occasions to become stronger. Very casual suffering imo
@sunandsteel117 Жыл бұрын
Great video carnal, good work!
@CarlosMW Жыл бұрын
Gracias bro Lo aprecio mucho 💙
@Regretted2 жыл бұрын
Damn I'm surprised this got recommended to me. KZbin is good sometimes
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
Hold on a sec.... KZbin recommended my video? That makes me so fucking happy not gonna lie
@Regretted2 жыл бұрын
@@CarlosMW Yeah pretty cool since youtube usually just recommends me stuff I don't wanna see lol. Hopefully others get recommended this video too
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
@@Regretted hopefully that will happen Thanks to SMT groups & Reddit this video became more relevant unlike my other videos haha
@VoltitanDevАй бұрын
At least Aleph has the power to overcome the suffering unlike Kazuya i just hope the angels were merciful and made it quick for the lad.
@cccherry4334Ай бұрын
I wish I could work on atlus lol, can't wait to see some new smt protagonist, i hope they could have something from the older games, and I REALLY HOPE SOME REMAKE OF SMT 1 AND 2
@rowanfynn45742 жыл бұрын
Wasn't Naoki in the best place at the wrong time, considering he would have just been killed if he wasn't in the hospital?
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
I mean, it depends if you prefer to die in a cataclysm, or if you like to be turned into a half-demon being in a world where everyone wants you dead .n.
@mewmew000 Жыл бұрын
Buen video! No tengo el animo últimamente para meterme de lleno a SMT, asi que estos videos son realmente geniales. Me alegro hayas seguido subiendo videos 🐱👍
@CarlosMW Жыл бұрын
Como alguien que se está metiendo de lleno a SMT déjame decirte que por favor no lo hagas xDDD Disfruta viendo este tipo de videos que básicamente resume la trama del juego jaja
@mewmew000 Жыл бұрын
@@CarlosMW Rayos, cuanta honestidad XD Igual si me has motivado a retomar SMT IV en algun mementos (chale perdi el corazon)
@CarlosMW Жыл бұрын
@@mewmew000 el IV te hará recuperar el amor por la saga, es un muy buen juego
@mewmew000 Жыл бұрын
@@CarlosMW La verdad, logre avanzar una buena parte del juego. Irónicamente lo que + me gusto no fue explorar tokio, si no el soundtrack y la seccion de Naraku que debe ser el mejor tutorial de SMT XD. Probablemente cuando termine P5R regrese 👍
@CarlosMW Жыл бұрын
@@mewmew000 el tutorial del IV es bastante brutal la verdad, creo que fue la parte donde más mori jaja
@PebblepantsTV2 жыл бұрын
i gotta see smt 1 hero in a remake his mom's death was too casual
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
what do you mean? 0:
@supernightslash2 ай бұрын
Kazuya 1000%. Had to kill his mom, his friends, everyone he cared about, and was turned into a statue for the foreseeable eternity. On the other side of the fence, Demi-Fiend from day 1 did not give any shits. This man became a true demon king simply because he could. Coud not care any less about the reasons or anyone's drama. He just wants power.
@leonard96242 жыл бұрын
Nice, subscribing. Smt tubers have become inactive.great to see another one rising
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! It means a lot to me to be called an "SMT Tuber" tbh I don't blame them, the only SMT close to its release is SH 2, and not many people are too hyped for it :/
@dracon2k Жыл бұрын
Missing out on Strange Journey. While its not a numbered game for reasons, it's definitely still treated as a mainline game by the devs and fans.
@CarlosMW Жыл бұрын
Yuuup, hours after I uploaded this video some people from Reddit told me that SJ & SMT NINE are considered "mainline", which leaves this video incomplete. To fix that mistake, I'll include both SJ & NINE's heroes in the "Which spin-off Megami Tensei protagonist suffered the most" video as a way to redeem my lack of research.
@Eddman3682 жыл бұрын
here's an idea do a list of which SMT alignment reps were the Best/Worst you could do separate vids to you could focus on one faction at a time, like one for the chaos, one for the , Law, one for neutral, than one for Misc alignments, like Nocturnes reasons, the White, Divine powers.
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
That is....actually an idea I've been considering since I started making SMT videos. 0: There are many Law, Chaos, and Neutral endings which deserve more recognition (SMT 2 Chaos ending, SMT V Law ending, and many others). Maybe in the future I could give it a try, but I still want to make this channel a videogames one, not just focusing in one franchise like I'm doing now xD
@topasu94542 жыл бұрын
bold video idea for a series where each game has the exact same plot
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
Man, you got me haha
@ArshadZahid_nohandleideas2 жыл бұрын
b-b-bu-but nooo… 🤓
@willnack53152 жыл бұрын
While I do see why you put Demi-Fiend in 5th, there are some events that were left out that could’ve at least put him into 4th or 3rd: 1: he had to watch his comrade Hijiri betray him only to be killed by Isamu! 2: he learned of Hijiri’s fate after his death (they never did explain what the poor fool did to deserve such a fate)! 3: he had to watch his teacher die in front of him, which happens regardless of his choices Though on the plus side, he is the only one who canonically got a lady, the pixie that joined him at the hospital at the start of the game! My head canon is that after the defeat of Lucifer and being named his general, Pixie dragged the Demi-Fiend to a hidden corner of the Amala Labyrinth and r*ped him (given how strong she is by endgame, this is not only entirely possible but also very easy to believe)! I actually have been tinkering with a story that serves as a sequel to the True Demon Ending after all the adventures Demi-Fiend has as an extra boss in other games! While he isn’t the MC, it does give him a more positive ending though it doesn’t erase all the stuff he had to do nor does it restore his humanity! I also have it so that while he would do all the things he did all over again in the same situations, the Demi-Fiend is so traumatized and saddened by those actions that he only speaks to Pixie, Lucifer, the Lady in Black, Sagahaki, Futomimi, and the Fiends. Pixie uses her abilities to alter her voice to speak for him in other instances! Please note, I do not work at/for Atlus so any changes or ideas I make are NOT canon!
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
Maybe...maaaaybe I could change Demi-Fiend & Nanashi's places, but Demi-Fiend still won't enter in the Top 3. If we take your fan story as canon (considering the Amala Network is a connection to multiple dimensions & realities) we might say that Demi-Fiend is the protagonist who suffered the most haha
@willnack53152 жыл бұрын
True, though I only came up with it because of how little SMT got in extra media (like mangas and such) in places other than Japan. I know it got a novel, an audio story, and a short lived card game in Japan; it got nothing else anywhere despite it being what brought Atlus into foreign markets! That just doesn’t sit right with me, that and I wanted a way to have the True Demon ending without having the world we know staying destroyed!
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
Sadly, you're right x_x Aside from mangas, CD dramas, and developers' interviews, we barely have information of what happened to the SMT's heroes.
@willnack53152 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and for the most part it’s Japanese exclusive (I’m sure there might be some stuff that made it here but it’s pretty hard to find)!
@yahir70072 жыл бұрын
En SMT2 mencionan qué fue del héroe del primer SMT? Además de su estatua en el coliseo, no recuerdo que hayan hecho mención sobre cómo murió o que haya ayudado a Valhalla junto a Madam. A lo mejor y me salté algo. PD: Exelente y entretenido vídeo :D
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
Si no mal recuerdo, eso no lo mencionan en SMT 2 (lo unico que confirma que el 1er campeon sea Kazuya es el model del personaje), el juego que si confirma sobre lo que le paso a Kazuya es ironicamente SMT Nine, un juego que de alguna forma es mainline al estar conectado al 1er juego....cosa que no sabia hasta que saque este video xD Pero según la wiki, ahi sale informacion extra de Kazuya (el 1er campeon, fundador de Valhalla, su muerte en la cueva, etc) Y muchisimas gracias bro, espera con paciencia el video de Persona 👀👌
@twelve48782 жыл бұрын
Se supone que los ángeles convirtieron a Kazuya en la estatua que está en el coliseo, por eso llora cuando Aleph se acerca a ella, y para el colmo, muere gracias a que Abaddon absorbe Valhalla, llevándose con él la estatua.
@isauldron4337 Жыл бұрын
@@CarlosMW supuestamente material suplementario revela que le asesinaron los seguidores de YHVH
@alwaysangry2232 Жыл бұрын
@@isauldron4337 todo lo que hizo valio nepe, gracias atlus
@billyboleson28304 ай бұрын
Aleph in the Chaos ending actually doesn’t have it that compared to neutral and law. Smt2 arguably has the best chaos in ending at least in mainline
@CarlosMW3 ай бұрын
You know what? You're right. SMT II's Chaos feels like you did something good for the weak; the opposite of what Chaos is in other SMT games
@julinofooly2 жыл бұрын
This video would benefit highly from an English CC track. I know the Spanish one is for accessibility, but the English is auto generated and it’s absolutely mangling some of the terms used. The audio could be tweaked up for most of this plus a lot for the opening. Oh god it keeps saying Chin Megami Tensei XD The yvwh scratch and other sound clips like Flynn’s voice are also a lot louder than your narration too.
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
To be honest, adding English CC is an idea I'm considering for extended videos like this, unfortunately for THIS one I can't take my time to add it because I erased the script (yes, I'm a genius xd), howeveeeer, I could write the English CC for the Persona video I'm going to upload today, but I can't do it immediately like the Spanish subtitles for not having enough free time to do it u.u And yeah, I can't deny that I didn't double-check the audio volume when I was working on it, as a result, some audio files are way louder than others. About the "Chin Megami Tensei" stuff, that's how we call the franchise between Spanish speakers, but at this point, I would be able to pronounce "Shin" correctly. haha
@some_guy117 Жыл бұрын
27:50 but also Imagine getting the revelation that your whole life was artificially made, Your main companion is actually your mom and all the other 4 are just extensions of you. Like poor aleph man
@CarlosMW Жыл бұрын
He had it rough ngl
@pt_saurio62612 жыл бұрын
9k man, let's go everybody
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
The video just reached 10.3k views... I'm gonna cry man, i can't believe it 😭
@abel88312 жыл бұрын
Flynn got the N-word pass! 😳
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
The only protagonist in the entire series who got it, and there are still people who believe he had a bad life 👀
@schwarzwelt68032 жыл бұрын
it is us who suffer the most because we have to grind and whatsoever to be make a good and broken demons
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
Uhhh are you sure about that? if I recall, the only mainline SMTs where you MUST grind hard are Nocturne, V & SJ (which I didn't include in this video)
@wtfisgundam2 жыл бұрын
Buenardo video Carlos Aunque el de persona suena increíble también debo de decir que en mi opinión tatsuya y maya son los que más sufrieron por una gran ventaja
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
Gracias bro Pero si Tatsuya y Maya son de Persona, no de los mainline SMT jaja
@wtfisgundam2 жыл бұрын
@@CarlosMW jajaja si Quería hacer mención de un posible video del mismo tema pero en persona o spin offs de megaten
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
@@wtfisgundam ufff viejo, de hecho ahora mismo estoy trabajando en el video de Persona que subire SI O SI este Viernes 👀👌
@wtfisgundam2 жыл бұрын
@@CarlosMW hay que ponerse finos para el estreno
@Emmetlovesredvelvet1311 ай бұрын
In my opinion it's 1. Kazuya 2. Aleph 3. Nanashi 4. Demifiend 5. Nahobino 6. Flynn My logic here boils down to three factors. One how much do they lose by the end of the story, two how big is their role in the the conflict of their world and three do they get any benefits by the end of the story. I chose kazuya as the most suffered because not only did he start his journey before the apocalypse he lost everything and everyone painfully and he gets literally nothing afterwards but more work according to his canon ending. I chose Flynn as the least of suffering because he has the luxury of starting off in naive bliss and though he loses a lot he gets a lot out of the assumed canon ending by reuniting the people of Tokyo and Mikado. not to mention he's essentially a prodigy by his counterparts standards and isn't even fighting the real Lucifer and merkabah.
@CarlosMW11 ай бұрын
I love seeing people debating between choosing Kazuya or Aleph as the mainline hero that suffered the most, but I want to know...why you put Nahobino THAT low?
@Emmetlovesredvelvet1311 ай бұрын
@@CarlosMW its the same logic as Flynn he starts the story in essentially naive bliss and he's by his narrative standards a prodigy in terms of his skill and power. The literal only difference is he actually fights the real threats of his world but even then he doesn't really struggle
@eliasr44272 жыл бұрын
No idea, feels like SMT 1 and 2 released in the 1920's for some reason. Only heard of 3 and up.
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
Classic haha The same applies to Persona though
@Kaijin20032 жыл бұрын
Nice video bro P.s where did you find the audioclip of the Demi Fiend at 11:23?
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Easy, watch the american SMT Nocturne Remaster announcement trailer
@isauldron4337 Жыл бұрын
Demi fiend in Freedom ending: happy ending yes or yes!
@VoltitanDevАй бұрын
I love the running gag of not saying YHWH's name
@naokikashima52212 жыл бұрын
Si pero jacket de hotline miami sufrio mas (¿¿¿¿ Nah mentira, una vez carlosGOD subio otro video GOD para su canal GOD que GOD es Carlos Una vez mas excelente video carlos TKM
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
Ahora me devuelvo a mi hiatus de medio año (?
@ProjectPhoenix212 жыл бұрын
Me every morning: gotta give up video games and grow up Me after work dealing with daily bullshit: nah fuck it *cracks open a beer too*
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
I understand your pain bro, I seriously do u_u
@datoevans15962 жыл бұрын
Aleph: "I have crippling depression :D"
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
Aleph should be THE definition of the word "depression" tbh :(
@joker32483 ай бұрын
Escuché tu voz y por el inglés medianamente roto supe al tiro que eras hispano, y más encima por tu acento caché que eres chileno xd
@CarlosMW3 ай бұрын
Fan de MegaTen y Chileno Dios si castiga más de dos veces
@joker32483 ай бұрын
@@CarlosMW Hay destinos peores que la muerte
@some_guy117 Жыл бұрын
If’s protagonist: Got outta school for free, gone to a new school and met tadashi, lives in the persona timeline. Easily the least suffering protagonist
@CarlosMW Жыл бұрын
You really think Tamaki suffered the least compared to the other Persona protagonists? I recommend you to watch the video about them 👀
@Yeaster Жыл бұрын
The older SMT games were so dark, Jesus Poor #1
@CarlosMW Жыл бұрын
And there are even darker MegaTen games out there such as Giten Megami Tensei
@starfish55992 жыл бұрын
I think Nanashi suffered the most in all SMT protagonist. Being an MC of the most hated SMT games is horrible
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
Can't argue with that, Nanashi is the true winner of this video .0.
@Lonewulf3215 ай бұрын
Which suffered the most? Me. I keep getting hit with the SMT Bullshit moments 😂
@CarlosMW5 ай бұрын
Same
@EduarRulez2 жыл бұрын
great video but where is IF, NINE and SJ
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
If... will be included in the Persona video, but I forgot to include Nine & SJ here, as an apology I'll talk about them in the SMT spin-off heroes. EDIT: tbh I never thought that forgettable & obscure Xbox game was from the main-line series haha
@FlynnMegaTensei2 жыл бұрын
no tamaki, space marine or smt nine guy damn
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
I'll talk about Tamaki on the Persona heroes video, Space Marine was my mistake for not researching enough, so to compensate my mistake I'll add him in the Spin-offs SMT heroes video My apologies :(
@JoeyLamontagne Жыл бұрын
No one gonna talk about Kyouji or Tamaki?
@CarlosMW Жыл бұрын
HOLY SHIT ITS KEI NANJO, I'M YOUR FAN BRO Kyouji is the protagonist of SMT NINE? Tamaki belongs to the Persona universe, so I added her in the Persona protagonist video
@smtlover70252 жыл бұрын
u forgot smt if...and smt strange journey theyre mainline too
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
I did forget SJ but no If... I'll talk about SJ in the SMT spin-off heroes as an apology for not mentioning him here, but the SMT If... heroine belongs to the Persona mainline; when I have the time to make the Persona protagonists video, i'll include her on it
@smtlover70252 жыл бұрын
@@CarlosMW its kinda hard with smt if... since it is a what if to the og smt but persona takes place after it.
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
Let's take it like a different timeline
@RaulDiaz-bl9gw10 ай бұрын
Do you have a Channel in Spanish?
@CarlosMW10 ай бұрын
Nope But all my videos have Spanish subtitles 👀👌
@CarlosSilva-bh4bi2 жыл бұрын
The First One Original Sad Kiddo or Strange Journey Doom Guy Change my mind
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
You mean Nakajima from Megami Tensei?
@CarlosSilva-bh4bi2 жыл бұрын
@@CarlosMW No, I mean the Protagonist of SMT 1
@d4csparda3662 жыл бұрын
TE AMO SEMIOSCURO SALUDOS A SMT LATINOAMERICA
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
Unos cracks los de SMT Latinoamerica Gracias a ellos mi video se volvio popular 💙
@christofersebastianlopezba17952 жыл бұрын
@@CarlosMW alguien sabe que pasó con ese grupo? Simplemente desaparecio
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
@@christofersebastianlopezba1795 parece que te banearon porque el grupo sigue activo :\
@christofersebastianlopezba17952 жыл бұрын
@@CarlosMW crei que lo tumbaron por andar pasando la rom del smt4 en español
@christofersebastianlopezba17952 жыл бұрын
@@CarlosMW ya ni modo, a sacar las multicuentas
@d4csparda3662 жыл бұрын
Demihusband Demihusband suffered the most
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
LA FAMOSA ANDREA SMT VIO MI VIDEO?! SOY TU FAN JODER, SOY TAN FELIZ 😭💙
@d4csparda3662 жыл бұрын
AY AJJAJA nomas soy una lokita por demifiend no es para tanto 👉👈
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
@@d4csparda366 es que lugar donde hablan de DMC, Nocturne o Metal Gear, lugar donde te encuentro gkdkkg Pero fuera de broma, me pone feliz que te tomaste el tiempo de ver este video ;_; 💙
@Dgovuo11 ай бұрын
Si pero Guts sufrió mas
@CarlosMW11 ай бұрын
No pudo haber sufrido porque Griffith no hizo nada malo 🥱
@christofersebastianlopezba17952 жыл бұрын
Si, pero nadie sufrio mas que el prota de giten megami tensei
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
Me suena familiar,es el prota del juego de celular de los 90?
@wallycastagnir2 жыл бұрын
4a is my favorite game in the franchise
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
It was a great & fun game ngl. Though, fuck YHVH's dimension
@wallycastagnir2 жыл бұрын
@@CarlosMW the final dungeons are always weird but hey still better then eridianus
@wallycastagnir2 жыл бұрын
@@CarlosMW the final dungeons are always weird but hey still better then eridianus
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
Haven't played SJ yet, how bad Eridianus is?
@RaphaWasHere2 жыл бұрын
i like the nahobino
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
YOOOO THE FIRST NAHOBINO FAN Can I get your autograph? c:
@LuiSuperX Жыл бұрын
El que sufrio mas fue el Carlos obvio
@CarlosMW Жыл бұрын
Efectivamente x_x
@Dukkk002 жыл бұрын
.... Chile, right?
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
Yeeee How did you know? 0:
@Dukkk002 жыл бұрын
Mis compañeros de la u cuando tratan de hablar en inglés tienen pausas al hablar y un tono agudo y eso es solo cuando tratan hablar en inglés jaja wena qliao uwu edit: allow me to darme mas color el chileno promedio hablando en inglés suele tener un tono plano entre palabras, en lugar de uno fluctuante al moverse entre las palabras, como cuando webiamos en discord
@kcdiscipline2 жыл бұрын
Guts
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
Griffith did nothing wrong
@BrodyWoelke2 жыл бұрын
Demifiend witnesses the oblivion of his world and the death of everything. I think he’s a clear winner.
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
That would be the case IIIIIIF Demi-Fiend wouldn't have chosen to reborn as a Demon, destroying any posibility to bring back the previous world
@jellyface4012 жыл бұрын
Pero Yaysuya Sufrio mas. No hay portada de Persona 2 Sin Tatsuya Don Motos soltando Lagrimas.
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
Pero si no hablo de Persona aqui xD Ya le hare un video aparte a esa franquicia
@jellyface4012 жыл бұрын
@@CarlosMW Yo se es chiste de AMLO en el avion
@kerryvanskonsol7922 жыл бұрын
@@CarlosMW persona 2 not too much separate franchise there always shin megami tensei part spin-off, only 3,4 and 5 was separated franchise but same demon from shin megami tensei series, persona 1 and 2 actually darker than future persona especially protagonist from persona 2 actually a lot suffer and meaningful about take responsibility has a adult and teenager start learn about life from adult everything fight and meaning about own sins from the past
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
@@kerryvanskonsol792 the reason you gave me now is why I want to make the Persona video, to make the internet know how dark the first three games were.
@EduarRulez2 жыл бұрын
el protagonista del NINE la paso peor tuvo que salir en un juego de xbox exclusivo de japon, que peor castigo es ese?
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
P-pe-pero el Game Pass.... Fuera de broma, que me informaran que el prota de Nine es de los mainline hizo que me explotara la cabeza, no puedo creer que Atlus puso uno de esos juegos solo para la Xbox....en Japon xd
@EduarRulez2 жыл бұрын
@@CarlosMW no le debieron tener mucha fe al proyecto de seguro menos de 1000 personas lo jugaron y nunca se ha vuelto a relanzar
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
No creo que vendiera taaaan poco si una copia usada sale como 20 dolares KGKDKG
@wtfisgundam2 жыл бұрын
Un saludo a smt Latinoamérica
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
Unos cracks lo de ese grupo 👀👌
@TwistedLullabies2 жыл бұрын
I have
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
You have suffered the most? D:
@TheOshinoMeme2 жыл бұрын
This winner congratulation for the boi is pretty FU too lol
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
You think so? :')
@TheOshinoMeme2 жыл бұрын
@@CarlosMW I think so x) our poor boi got a fu life and get congrats to have such on lmao, the cherry on the cake.
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
@@TheOshinoMeme at least he won, so its something I guess (?
@user-dh3kc6us5v2 жыл бұрын
eres chileno?
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
Yeeee, como lo supiste? 0:
@user-dh3kc6us5v2 жыл бұрын
@@CarlosMW lo noté porque tú voz se me hacía que tenía un tono familiar xd
@CarlosMW2 жыл бұрын
@@user-dh3kc6us5v pense que fue por poner tanto "weon" en los subtitulos GKKDKG
@redgil36152 жыл бұрын
chale, sufrió mucho pero aun así gano un reconocimiento XD