Which One Should YOU Buy? - FMS FCX24M vs Axial SCX24 Detailed Comparison

[@RC24th]

I have both the scx24 power wagon and the fcx24m range rover, and I was blown away by the out of the box performance of the fcx24m compared to the scx24. Great video!

[@DoURC]

Thanks very much 👍 Great to get feedback from other owners who have both. Axial definitely need to up their game and not just release a new body. 👍

[@jovijovichopper]

Is the 24m is totally different frame? I have a 24wargon already. But i like the 110/90 body

[@jorgecastro6078]

The FCX24M definitely won me over. Ended up with a D110 and Discovery. Love the two speed and supper show torquey crawl.

[@DoURC]

Ah cool, I love the Discovery and so nice to have something different too. I hope they keep releasing more different body styles and hopefully not a Lexus! 😬🤣

[@ryand4786]

I’d go with the axial . The FMS is better performer out of the box, but FMS has its own quality issues. You have to upgrade the axial to make it do what you want, but that’s no different than all the 1/10 scale rigs. And yes I do own axial and FMS rigs , had to upgrade my FMS FJ40, had to upgrade my axial Capra 4ws, it’s just the way it goes with this hobby , great video !! 👍

[@DoURC]

Yeah most RTR's need upgrading. Let's be honest, even the ones that don't we'll still modify them, it's part of the hobby. 🤣👍

[@Bonitacreekrcs]

6:22 turning it to 50% gives you better slow speed control than 75% or 100%

[@DoURC]

Thanks, I bet it'd be like going backwards at 50% throttle! 🤣😬

[@BlackCreekRC]

The two speed transmission alone makes the FMS better imo

[@DoURC]

I do like a 2 speed, can really help you out when you're stuck. 👍

[@hellcat3522]

I cannot wait for my Discovery to arrive! Thinking about putting the motor from an fcx18 in it with some portals and 1" wheels...make it try and stand up to it's bigger siblings. Thanks for the content!

[@DoURC]

Sounds like it'd be a beast. Be like a proper off road Disco, big tyres, 4" lift. 👍😎

[@chrissyboy7047]

Ive just ordered the 110 version today. Cant wait for it to arrive. They look like so much fun

[@DoURC]

@chrissyboy7047 Excellent, hope you like it. They're nice little rigs. 👍

[@chrissyboy7047]

@DoURC I hope so mate. Ive watched what feels like a million youtube videos comparing different rigs before pulling the trigger. Lol. I wanted something small and fun and they seem really good value for what you get

[@DoURC]

@chrissyboy7047 Yeah definitely good value for money, especially at the current prices. Look nice too. I love the little Discovery, such a cool looking rig. 👍

[@chrissyboy7047]

@@DoURC they're all cool and I hope I dont feel compelled to buy them all. Lol. I watched a load of your videos and scratched my head for a while before biting the bullet. Great channel mate 👍

[@DoURC]

@chrissyboy7047 That's the problem isn't it, we're spoilt for choice and want them all! 🤣👍 Thanks very much, appreciate it. 👍

[@joshc3576]

the scx24 has an unreal amount of upgrade availability at a low price. i find theres not alot out there for fms models. if your looking to upgrade the scx24 has it by far. great video mate

[@DoURC]

Thanks very much 👍 Yeah totally agree, so many mods out there for the SCX24. Hopefully in time more will be available for the FMS rigs. 👍

[@donaldkhogan]

I just had to make this decision between the 2 featured vehicles for myself. I think the gist of where I landed was that the FCX24 would be more fun and less frustrating out of the box, for longer, than the SCX24 and I think your video supports that thesis. Those low-speed controls would drive me MAD on the SCX out of the box. I'd have sent it back if it had been advertised as a crawler and could not effectively crawl. I ended up getting the limited-ed FCX24 K5 with oil shocks, portal axles, metal gears, and brushless 2-speed for $150 I thought that was a smoking deal that would get me into the hobby and last me a while before I'm itching to upgrade.

[@DoURC]

Great choice, the FCX24 Pro is great value for money and a really good rig. Hope you like it. 👍

[@watch-box]

The fcx 24s with portal axles are still cheaper than the scx - making them even better. Ive just ordered parts to try a hybrid build of an scx lcg chasis, with fcx portals, and a brushless injora fat vyper motor - all depends on finding the right links or ballends to swap from 1.4mm (scx) to 2mm (fcx) screws. Great comparison video, have to agree with everything you say. Worth pointing out that these small scale rigs are addictive, if you get one and enjoy it youll probably end up with both anyway!

[@DoURC]

Thanks very much 👍 Yeah the FCX24 is much better imo. If you're looking for an LCG rig, consider the Hobbyplus CR18P Evo Pro, that imo is the best performing mini crawler right now, thing is a beast. 👍

[@151CHAVIN]

Out the box the FCX24M is brilliant for crawling and the axial scx24 has amazing upgrades! With the upgrades the scx24 is incredibly but you need to chuck more money into it and change alot to make it perform the way you expect!

[@DoURC]

Yeah totally agree, over time I'm sure FMS will catch up on the mods, but atm the SCX24 probably has by far the most upgrades available. 👍

[@patrickmclaughlin2016]

I got the Power Wagon. Was totally disappointed with the motor and servo compared to the previous versions. I upgraded the motor and servo, replaced the wheels with brass and took the foams out of the tires. The thing is a monster now. It pushed a Fisher Price family village across carpet. I wish I would have taken a video.

[@DoURC]

Yeah it's a shame it's not great out the box, as it looks fantastic imo. The old SCX24 electronics were much nicer. 👍

[@660_mafia]

how much do you have into it tho?

[@josecanedo007]

Like the look of the new axial scx24 Lexus, but concern is that poor quality motor. Have 2 scx24 and on both motor failed within a couple of months of normal use.. btw nice video ❤

[@DoURC]

Thanks very much. 👍 That's no good. I've never had an issue with my old SCX24, even mudding it, but not sure if they changed them. I think with a lot of things like this, it's luck of the draw sometimes. Imo there are much nicer rigs out the box than an SCX24. 👍

[@wtfmimshag]

Features and performance wise the FMS comes out on top, but i think they have some issues. My experience is based on the SWB defender. Diff gears are weak, and they can take out the output gears on the trans when they fail. Replacement diff gears are available but there has apparently been a V2 revision at some point and the V2 gears arent compatible with the original axles. The SWB D90 also uses a dogbone for the short rear driveshaft, which will fall out once you get to a certain travel. So at the very least i'd suggest going for a longer wheelbase fcx24m. Hopefully the aftermarket takes off for the new FMS trucks, there's not a lot out there at the moment.

[@DoURC]

Yeah, we definitely need some FMS upgrades. I'm not a fan of the D90 tbh, it's like the forgotten child! 🤣 I know people have had issues with the plastic gears on a few different FMS models, but in fairness sometimes people need to remember they're plastic and not indestructible. Let's be honest, some people just can't drive! 😬🤣 The FCX24 Pro comes all metal, so maybe they'll add metal gears or just harder plastic at some point to improve reliability. 👍

[@jpmiller7922]

The diff gears are metal in the FCX24m. I had to replace the rear pinion gear in my Range above after one use. The other three havent had any noticeable issues, at least that my 7 year old didn't cause.

[@danielpaulson8838]

With the small crawlers, the scale climbing on courses made for larger vehicles does not look good. I'm not a fan of climbing these little ones on courses when they include the vehicle putting on a seizure like hopping, bouncing, slamming the rig like display to bounce the little chassis over a rock that would hang up or destroy any full sized rig. These are scale looking cool pass times but the rock crawling isn't remotely scale like. That's okay for sure. RC guys hang their planes on the prop and roll and loop their helicopters. The "scale" part is rather sketchy.

[@DoURC]

I get what you're saying. 👍 I run them on my rock course so people can see what their potential is, in the hope it helps them make a decision on if they like it. 👍

[@danielpaulson8838]

@@DoURC I do get it. The performance is phenomenal and it is indeed fun to get over things best as one can. It's all fun.

[@nunocarneiro464]

The fcx is the best , axial really made waves when they first release those but now they are just a puddle of stagnant water everyone else is just miles ahead of them

[@DoURC]

Yeah, I think Axial and Traxxas both need to up their game or risk getting left behind. 👍

[@RCplamodel]

It's a great looking adventure with a stunning car! 👏 🙏👏 🙏👏

[@DoURC]

Thanks very much mate 👍😎

[@Tipman2OOO]

Thats wild. Ive had the power wagon as my only rig and figured i got a dud esc or all crawlere were like that stock. Took me nearly a year to change the esc. I was chasing performance by putting different motor setups the whole time not realizing the esc was trash 😡

[@DoURC]

Yeah it's a shame, as the previous SCX24 models were better. Brushless setups are getting so cheap now, it almost makes more sense to just go brushless. 👍

[@chrislibby510]

FMS all day

[@DoURC]

👍😎 They're great little rigs aren't they. My favourite mini FMS is currently my FCX18 Farm Truck Build. 👍😁

[@frantaflinta6339]

I have Discovery and friend have Range Rover, we have tons on fun with them. Can´t recomend them enough 😁

[@DoURC]

@frantaflinta6339 Excellent, they're great little rigs aren't they. 👍😎

[@boiledtea479]

i think the fcx24m is the out of the box winner. but id buy them for different purposes: the scx24 if i wanna go heavy on the mods because they have such a huge aftermarklet, and the fcx24m id buuy to do a rather scale, more stock build.

[@DoURC]

Totally agree, the SCX24 aftermarket is huge in comparison, but hopefully with time more mods will be available for the FCX24M. 👍

[@marasiganchannel72]

Nice video bro 😊i like the green one ☝️

[@DoURC]

Thanks very much. 👍 It's a great looking rig isn't it. 👍

[@LosGuichos]

When comparing the controls, it is never mentioned that the SCX has a whole world of programming possibilities when you take a look at the user manual. You can adjust the limits, speed among other fine adjustments that give more options to simply moving the knobs

[@DoURC]

@LosGuichos I'm not sure what manual you're reading, but mine just says, trim, DR and then servo travel, that's hardly a whole world of programming? 🤷‍♂️ Pretty sure the FCX24M manual has way more features for the radio gear. 👍

[@TarylWalker]

He's probably thinking of v1 or v2 scx24 electronics. This new V3 scx24 electronics seem to be the least desirable. Plus axial stuck bigger tires and a heavier body on their stock chassis, servo and motor setup. They should've at least put underdrive in the axles to make up the difference.

[@patrickmclaughlin2016]

But it's a Power Wagon. Really cool. And upgrading is very satisfying.

[@DoURC]

🤣 Yeah lots of upgrades too available. 👍😎

[@DPWian]

It’s minor but the one thing I don’t like about the FCX24 remote is that damn green LED light lol the thing is so bright you can’t see the switches on top of the remote because that LED blinds you. I have to cover that LED with my finger if I need to make any adjustments on the remote 😂

[@DoURC]

🤣🤣🤣 Yeah, they are very bright and in your face.

[@Capt.Jiggly]

How would you go about fixing the crawling issue on the scx24? My grandpa had a 40s Power Wagon so I really want to get it because of the nostalgia of riding in his on the farm but the crawling is making me hesitant. Would upgrading the motor to a 050 50t fix it (or at least help)?

[@DoURC]

Fitting a bigger motor would help, but really it's the esc, so you'd want to change that. If you have a decent transmitter already with a receiver that would fit, going brushless would be the best option. 👍

[@valkoriont2061]

Hands down Fcx24m I never even considered the scx24 just seems old with lots of shortcomings.

[@DoURC]

Yeah, I think it's good it's now got oil filled shocks and I do like this body, but it definitely needs some improvements from Axial to compete with FMS and Hobbyplus etc. 👍

[@Jb-Raja]

Considering that any of these will end up costing several 100s i am seriously thinking about the Everest-10. I have 3 scx24s and the Fcx24 power wagon. The Everest-10 will do much more for far less.

[@DoURC]

I'm not sure you'd need to spend several hundreds on these, that seems a little excessive! All the FCX24M really needs is a bit of low down weight and better tyres. For several hundred you could buy a used SCX6! 🤣👍

[@johnnydh544]

FMS! FMS! FMS! Axial is trash! I still hold hope that the 18 scale capra can perform for what they are charging. If they send you one please do a review! Great content as always!

[@DoURC]

Thanks very much 👍 If I get one I certainly will. 👍😎

[@660_mafia]

can you raise the suspension of the fcx?

[@DoURC]

The stock shocks aren't adjustable.

[@marcussilva8440]

Fms all day

[@DoURC]

They're great little rigs aren't they 👍😎

[@360woodierc]

I really thought the axial would win easily because of the larger tires and better tires.It was a close fight.Not sure why axial messed with the electronics.My previous scx24 bronco and gladiator had great low speed control.

[@DoURC]

Yeah same here, my old SCX24 Bronco was much better. Hopefully they learn from it! 😬🤣

[@Bonitacreekrcs]

9:07 the 030 motor is really underpowered with that heavy hardbody. A mofo RC torque beast 3.0 is a great motor for the scx24

[@DoURC]

Thanks very much for the tip. I'll be upgrading it soon so will check that out. 👍

[@tawcaw]

I do Torque beast 30 after I burn out the stockers. They stop nice, compensate for crummy combo ESC's

[@Bonitacreekrcs]

@@tawcaw a 30 size motor is just to small. Those mofo motors have actual brushes instead of the springs like in the stock motor.

[@panhouska]

When we compare FMS FCX24m vs new SCX24 Base Camp vs CR18P Evo Pro(even though this is higher price range)?

[@DoURC]

@panhouska You can't really compare the CR18P Evo Pro to them, as its a completely different style rig. The Evo Pro would walk all over them with ease, but isn't scale in the slightest. 👍

[@StuNod-RC]

You should put the FMS esc in the all stock SCX and see the difference.. (hint: it’s much better)

[@BellaT-nu4vv]

@do u rc why not do a video like that?

[@DoURC]

Yeah I can imagine it would be, the Spectrum stuff just seems rubbish. I've got a Furitek system in my SCX24 Bronco and that's lovely, but obviously on a different level. 👍

[@DoURC]

I could do, but I guess it depends on the value for money to people really. Brushless systems are getting so cheap now it can be better value to just go brushless. 👍

[@BellaT-nu4vv]

@@DoURC yep that's true :) hopefully we'll have more brushless RTR's soon, because except FMS'es all look a little bit useless after seeing their performance with brushless conversion

[@bencrocker9444]

i tend to avoid any rigs with spektrum electronics i just dont like them at all plus ive seen just how much money some ppl have spent on the scx24 just trying to get it to beat a standard fms fcx24 power wagon it is just a tired platform now they need to upgrade the whole chassis now not just making new bodies for it dont get me wrong they aint the only 1s the trx4m is also so poor out of the box aswell

[@DoURC]

Totally agree mate. I like the fact they added oil filled shocks, as it makes a big difference imo, but yeah they need to up their game. 👍

[@RuffPlugger]

I stopped doing what I love on youtube because Do U RC already does what I do but better - Ruff Crawlers RC

[@DoURC]

Don't stop because of me, loads of channels out there already. If you enjoy it don't let anyone stop you. 👍😎

[@tomlucasrccrawlers9108]

I agree. The FCX24/18 and the CR18P are easily walking away from the SCX24 and the TRX4M as for performance and cost out-of-the-box. I think it's disappointing to see Axial & Traxxas lag this far behind HobbyPlus & FMS. Sure, the US mini crawler/trail rigs look good, but they perform like crap. If I buy any of the US mini rigs, most likely it'll only be a body.

[@DoURC]

Yeah, with so many brands out there now people are spoilt for choice. Take the CR18P Evo Pro, that thing is a beast if you're just looking for performance. 👍

[@fatboyshadetree5139]

I am sorry but the entire video it sounded like you kept saying Scx24m and Fcx24. I am trying to figure out what you were saying bc i am trying to decide on these 2. Also you showed the controllers but i had no idea which controller went with which truck. You kept saying the names way too fast for me to catch with one you were referring to.

[@DoURC]

Sorry, I know I can talk very fast sometimes...too much caffeine! 😬🤣 F and S do sound very similar, blame FMS for the two letter difference! 🤣 I do say the M on the end of the FCX24M, so should be clearer which is which. 👍 For the controllers the first Spectrum controller was for the SCX24. Basically to summarise, FCX24M has 2 speed, better electronics and slow speed control. SCX24 has the nicer body. Hope that helps. 👍

[@TomAF86]

The Spektrum electronics are bad if it can barely slow crawl on stock worm gear ratios. V2 electronics with the Injora red 66t is a much better combo.

[@DoURC]

Yeah I much preferred the electronics on my previous SCX24 Bronco. I'll try a different motor when I upgrade it and see if it's ant better. 👍

[@Wild_Buggy]

Let's not forget the big price difference! You can get an FCX24M for 120€, while the SCX24 costs 180€.

[@DoURC]

Yeah the FMS is definitely much better value for money. I did mention that for the price difference you could upgrade the wheels and tyres, then the FCX24M would be even better. 👍

[@MICHAEL-n6p1m]

Dont knock the scx24..the spektrum electroics was junk i have the c10 pickup with different electronics and that scx is much better...outta the box i had reverse issues w my scx gladiator..idk but i just bought the fcx24m...however if you do weight mods on that sxc dodge truck it will help it not be so wonky w speed control 😊

[@DoURC]

Yeah the previous SCX24 definitely had better electronics. Yes the SCX24 has loads of upgrades, but you're still going to throw more money at one than something else. I'd just throw less money at something better out the box to begin with. 👍

[@crappy60]

Well seems like the RR is due for an upgrade in wheels and tires.

[@DoURC]

Yeah, some weighted wheels and better tyres would definitely help. 👍

[@crappy60]

@DoURC I have some 1.0 injoras on the way w/silicone inserts! We’ll see how it goes, I’m excited for a little more extra ground clearance!

[@DoURC]

Nice. 👍 Personally I prefer the smaller scale wheels, but I've seen lots of cool builds on the FCX24M platform doing lifted trucks etc. 👍

[@borisviktory]

nice👍👍👍

[@DoURC]

Thanks very much mate 👍

[@MrBowser2012]

Personally I think the SCX is much cooler looking. Too bad about the low speed performance.

[@DoURC]

Yeah I prefer the Power Wagon body, only reason I bought it. Yeah out the box it's not great is it! 😬

[@Californiadreamin159]

Quality? the power wagon has a fake rear bed its raised way to high to be a real bed

[@DoURC]

That's more about scale realism than actual quality though. You could say the same about lots of things on any rig really. 👍

[@lt1vettman1]

Your compensate by FCX , and it shows. Your wrong pal.

[@DoURC]

@@lt1vettman1 🤣 So you're telling me, out the box, the SCX24 is better than the FCX24M? I don't think so!

[@lt1vettman1]

Yes, that's what I'm telling you. It's not even close. I just don't respect a payed for opinion. ​@@DoURC

[@DoURC]

@lt1vettman1 My opinion isn't paid for. I ran them both the same and compared their good and bad points! You can literally see the difference in performance, features and value for money. Explain to me why you think the SCX24 is a better RTR then?...

[@lt1vettman1]

@@DoURC It just seems like you favor fxc and I favor scx. That's ok. I like scx speed control, tires and the spectrum controller and batteries. I am brand loyal, so I am bias. I like the upgrades available for the scx also. If fcx doesn't toss something your way they should. Thanks for your honest opinion . I apologize for my comment being so aggressive. I appreciate you taking the time to make videos to show how awesome the hobby is no matter what brand. Keep up the great work. Maybe one day we can do some crawling together. Have a great day and thanks for the interaction on the subject this morning. Ps. I do love your content.

[@DoURC]

@lt1vettman1 Thanks for the reply. Everyone is always going to have a bias, as we all have our own preferences. When doing comparisons I always try to show both rigs doing the same things so the viewer can make up their own minds. Imo the electronics in the FCX24M are better and it's better value for money overall, but as I said in the video I prefer the body, wheels and tyres on the SCX24. My aim of these types of videos is to help people make up their own mind, I'm not trying to tell people what to buy, they can make their own minds up. 👍