Which Path Should You Choose?

[@averagedev7768]

As a backend developer, i always had to create a skeleton design in bootstrap and html for all the features to work, but then i let the designers do there job, in the end that turns out to be the most effective solution since i create all the api calls and everything for theme, they just have to change the look and feel

[@monfernape]

I'm more of like front end. Handling user interactions may be bit hard but once you get the hang of it, it's fun

[@WebDevSimplified]

The front end is super fun

[@stachowi]

Amazing break down, another great video.

[@WebDevSimplified]

Thank you so much!

[@SACHIN-gd6zy]

Hey, This is the best youtube channel, thanks for ur hard work, i learn a lot from you, specially your Nodejs API videos are insane , waiting for ur React course to drop :) Peace

[@pastorfred2543]

He teaches a lot of amazing things and the cool aspect is that, it's ABSOLUTELY free!

[@SACHIN-gd6zy]

@@pastorfred2543 yeah , i agree with you , he is very kind and beautiful human being, i love his videos, Please follow him in Twitter as well

[@pastorfred2543]

@@SACHIN-gd6zy I will do that bro.

[@WebDevSimplified]

Thank you so much! I am super excited to launch the React course and I really hope you enjoy it. I have been pouring so many hours into getting it ready.

[@pastorfred2543]

@@WebDevSimplified Wow.. I can't wait to embark on that journey..Sir. Thank you.

[@AnnieTaylorChen]

After trying both I think I definitely prefer front-end. When doing front-end I keep thinking what I want to learn, such as cool stuff I saw. When doing back-end I need a break with cat video. But I do think full-stack is a good idea because it's more powerful for you to come up with your own applications. Not to mention, you get a hands-on how to connect stuff coming from the back-end to the front-end.

[@WebDevSimplified]

The great thing about full stack is that you can heavily specialize in front end development, and the fact that you know a bit about the back end will make you incredibly valuable as a developer. It means you can do all the front end work and potentially even all the back end work for a project especially if the back end is just a simple API and the front end is a large complex application.

[@armanx2]

Because strong typed coding and proper oop was too hard ? :P ;)

[@WebDevSimplified]

@@armanx2 Enjoyment of frontend vs backend has nothing to do with strong vs dynamic typed languages or OOP. A Node.js backend is not strongly typed. An Elixir backend will be both dynamicly typed and functional. You could also write your frontend using OOP concepts and Typescript which would make it strongly typed. The main reason people like myself prefer frontend over backend is because of the extra creative freedoms you get with the frontend.

[@AnnieTaylorChen]

@@armanx2 For me it's more like not being able to connect to final product at the back-end (at least as a newbie). Though don't get me wrong, I still have solid plan to get better at back-end heehee. This is where the "power" lies.

[@armanx2]

@@WebDevSimplified although typescript does simulate real oop i still have my doubts about this because in the end of the day it's just a super set to Javascript which for me is not really oop since it violet so many rules of real oop programming (but with es6+ it's somewhat better with scops and stuff :)

[@ameroshqiptar17]

I haven't heard anyone describe these different roles so thoroughly. Thank you!

[@sap3384]

Im kinda onto Full stack cuz I enjoy both front end and back end, thanks alot I just started my HTML course, this video taught me alot of things that I didnt know.

[@huraqandavid6727]

Hey, any update? I know it's been 2 years+ ago lol you mostly not gonna see this. But i think you are an pro now in front end development xD

[@TheOnlineVideos1]

Hey man, nice presentation and a break down on different roles in the dev world. I'm curious, In which category would you include QA(Quality Assurance) role? Is it more like DevOps or Backend thing?

[@jerry2k33]

Good advices. I am studying multi platform app development and teachers guide us towards fullstack skills.

[@WebDevSimplified]

Full stack is a really safe bet.

[@kendodaisuki]

I discovered your chan some weeks ago, really good job ! continue :)

[@WebDevSimplified]

Thank you!

[@GorillaDev417]

I enjoy backend development but landed my current job as a Frontend Developer using Polymer so just doing it for now. Love the company so going to stick it out and do my best until I can try to jump on another team.

[@WebDevSimplified]

That is great. I really hope that you are able to make a smooth transition to a back end job.

[@marcodimario9918]

I'm a "full stack" for ages and like it very much but also it's a very hard life :)

[@blakeaham]

buddy your videos are so simple but so perfect. Thanks a ton

[@Oswee]

Great. You just expressed what i am struggling with. I want write real-time event driven application composed of dynamically imported web compomponents, web sockets, redux-sagas and Go, gRPC, Kafka and some others... and i can tell that DevOps side is nightmare. Learning Go, TypeScript, protocol buffers in comparison to full true DevOps feels like baby stuff. Just learn language an build feature by feature. But when it comes to nmcli, nftables, certbot, service discovery, metricts, monitoring, containers... please shoot me.! In the head please. I spend 6 months and still feel dumb as hell. Yes... i learned Ansible.. yes i know how to set up DNS, dhcp, how to iPXE boot an infrastructure... but i still cant run my zoo of microservices. Single Kubernates takes an ages to master. If you ask somebody... the only answer you get is... use AWS. Really!? AWS abstractions is all you know!? Like... that's stupid. But what if you have no budget to experiment with Kafka and Zookerper clusters? What if you have no budget to experiment with Kubernetes/OpenShift clusters? Does those people really realize how easy is to blow up their budget in AWS!? I am not talking about ... you can set alerts and stuff. It's too late if you hit an budget limit. With 1000$ you can have really decent server with 24 cores and 256 GB ram at least. So all you need is to learn DevOps... but... man... this is the hardest part ever! You should know so many tools. It's just crazy.

[@flingflang69]

Your rant is really informative xD

[@defaultdefault812]

I'll pass on the autistic rant.

[@losrobbosful]

Can definitely confirm this, even though I kept my hands a bit more on the surface level. Setting up infrastructure is extremely tedious. Even though it became easier with preconfigured Docker compose images... it is still a whole new world to tap into. Actually all your learnings from coding are (almost) not applicable here anymore, except for doing some scripting and understanding a bit easier JSON and YAML config files. I enjoyed DevOps to a certain degree, when it is just about the app architecture side of things. But dealing with the stress of hardening that stuff, to prevent security breaches... that alone made it impossible for me to consider this as my job. I have really high respect for these dudes. Those are really the rockstar nerds

[@pastorfred2543]

Thanks Sir for the explanation and also life sharing experience.. I'm motivated.

[@WebDevSimplified]

You're welcome! I'm really glad my experiences can motivate you. I cannot wait to see what you can create!

[@TheXuism]

I love creativity but I run businesses one by myself so I chose full-stack.

[@Billy_98]

Amazing video! This is rrly what i was looking for.

[@joshualuciano8589]

Thanks for this video... One of my motivations as a beginner....

[@tenshik672]

Thank you for clarifying everything...

[@s.akhtarjoomun263]

I am not sure if what I am doing is considered as a mistake. I am interested in learning Python and hope to land a job using Python. But since I have zero knowledge in programming, I found a course online called Microverse, where they teach HTML, CSS, Javascript, React, Ruby, Ruby on rails, Redux. And they are also very helpful their students landing jobs remotely. So, I had to make a decision. I chose to follow the course of Microverse in order to land a job, but I'm more interested in learning Python. Do you think it's a mistake that I'm making? You have to consider the fact that Microverse doesn't charge a cent until we start earning in the development field. And it's the only way I know I can land a job remotely. But I don't think I want to be a front end developer. I'll probably go for back end development. And if I get the opportunity to learn Python afterwards, I might consider becoming a Python developer. What advice would you give me?

[@mariolis]

So a full-stack developer is the Jack-of-all-traits of Web Development

[@Mvrck44]

'DevOps is like the back-backEnd' :D So true...

[@newmonengineering]

I'm a database administrator in a very large company have been for almost 20years now. I am branching off on my own finally to trying full stack. Database work is awesome for logical people and challenging at times. But it's finally time I put all my skills to the test. I'm learning a lot of front end stuff with this channel you are doing a great job and I just wanted to say thank you for such awesome content.

[@promohican8222]

Hey Kyle I was wondering if it possible to put this type of videos on Spotify as a podcast

[@jeffaaron7084]

I wanna choose fullstack dev but I don wanna interact with database like mySQL

[@theg4925]

sir just by watching i found that i wanted to become devops engg, the desc u put on exactly fitted me. i'd depply apppreciate if u could share job opportunities in devops field coz that is a trucky thing for me as of now

[@Tall-Cool-Drink]

When an employee is looking for a FULL STACK developer, they want someone who can do it all for little pay. lol

[@ss-strategy4676]

Wow you explain this so clear. Great job keep it up!

[@ghostghost6840]

what about CTRL+C CTR+V Developer?

[@navinandy8106]

Kyle I gatta ask. The home scene is what.

[@lardosian]

Just finished a full stack bootcamp and feel i do like both front and back but probably backend more. Tools like materialize is really good looking so i will use that and concentrate more on the db and backend logic. Now to land an actual job with little experience is the hardest part im finding.

[@WebDevSimplified]

Landing your first job is the hardest but with bootcamp experience and a solid portfolio you will land one in no time.

[@lardosian]

@@WebDevSimplified Thanks for the positive words, helps a lot, really.

[@ameer6168]

@@lardosian did you land Any job?

[@lardosian]

@@ameer6168 yes i was lucky to be approached by a start up with a small budget so I was doing everything, and using AWS. Now working as a back end developer using Node JS.

[@OperationsAndSmoothProductions]

Which would be best for remote work? Great Video.

[@athumanahmed9374]

i learning web development, am interested in becoming a fullstack developer just like you..

[@synaestheticVI]

Just what I needed - thank you, Kyle! :-)

[@ganeshandhale2844]

This channel is best one

[@nothingisreal6345]

Frontend can be OK - but "modern" web development still is far behind what you can do with native apps and frameworks. It is so funny what a C++ developer can do using a game engine compared to what you can achieve with JS and CSS. Today we need TS to write reasonable JavaScript based applications and SCCS to do reasonable CSS management. The web needs to be fixed. Let's see if WebAssembly will finally do the job. Backend: can get tricky and challenging but after a while you have seen most of it. If you don't work on Google's search AI - it's typically not that hard. The key point is: does it make any sense (will it help people to be better) and does it make you money? If it some fun doing it - that's a bonus.

[@kaungkhantzaw4979]

I feel like front end developer is more fun cuz it can create different things and interactions depending on his creativity and knowledge. On the other hand, back end is like creating always the same features on the website like inserting, deleting and updating data no matter how good the developer is. Just my thoughts

[@WebDevSimplified]

The thing that makes back end fun is not the creativity of creating new and interesting things, but more creating a well architected and flexible code base and API. This is why I like full stack since you can do both the creative front end and the architected back end.

[@cardinal3728]

It is really informative for a newbie like me. Thanks a lot.

[@willysnowman]

Good overview. I'm more just get the dam thing working before i loose my rear end role.

[@WebDevSimplified]

Me too. Lol

[@toddboothbee1361]

It'd like to freelance, so perhaps full stack is the way to go?

[@eddiejaoude]

Great explanation 👍. I am fullstack with Devops, I break it all 😂🤦‍♂️🤓

[@WebDevSimplified]

Dev ops is definitely my weak point. I really need to spend a few months and deep dive into dev ops, but it can be so frustrating. Lol

[@armanx2]

@@WebDevSimplified I'm full stack, and got to say i do some ok devops job but devops is so booooooring in essence you are doing more configuration then development

[@WebDevSimplified]

It is kinda boring but it is a really good skill to have

[@eddiejaoude]

@@armanx2 I agree with @Web Dev Simplified, it is an important skill to have. Every developer eventually needs to know automated testing, DevOps, UX etc in addition to fullstack coding - thats where the bigger money can be made (it all takes time though, need to be careful not to be a jack of all trades and master of none)

[@mabenyjohnson6908]

Great and clear content!

[@avimehenwal]

once again nice work Kyle.. great video (Y)

[@bruhmoment3731]

Very helpful! Thank you!

[@debdutchowdhury822]

nice vid bro. keep up the good work

[@josephlivengood4508]

man, thank you for explaining devops (if that's spelled right). I am more a front end and learning backend now but trying to move a site or what they call deployment is not my cup of tea. I kept myself from contacting clients because of this fear that I should know how to do this as well. So my question is, let's say I finish building a site locally, I upload it to my server to show them. If they want me to move it to their hosting, can I safely tell the client that this isn't my specialty and they will need to hire someone else to move it to their server?

[@tannerbarcelos6880]

Full stack is the way to go. Build complex things on the backend, and the see it in action on the front end. That type of reinforcement is great. And the beauty , too, is that you’re not limited to only JavaScript on the backend (python, java, go, etc). Web technology is the way to go in 2020 in my opinion. Especially full stack. That job realm is booming rn as most things all exist through the web or electron now (so it seems)

[@haykmanukyan5462]

great one!

[@andrepeixoto2947]

Fortunately, three years later, the old browsers support hell is coming to an end... RIP IE.

[@alanye7542]

Thanks!

[@MsHamza360]

Dude you are amazing and i just subscribed

[@semlimi200]

Thanks for all the great helpful content you put out! Would you also be able to talk about how much job demand there is for each position? I know I love database development but I've heard it's usually outsourced to third world countries. So in a future video maybe you can talk about the job demand, job satisfaction, future growth etc. of each position?

[@WebDevSimplified]

That is a good suggestion. I would say that full stack is probably the most in demand since you can do a full stack role or a back/front end role. The next most in demand would be front/back end in about equal quantity. Lastly I think DB and dev ops take up the tail end since a company does not need nearly as many DB and dev ops developers. Also many back end devs can fill the roles of DB or dev ops for smaller companies.

[@semlimi200]

@@WebDevSimplified Thank you so much for the great pointers! I'm job searching now and your insights from your video and reply has cleared up a lot of things, I think I know what to focus on now. Looking forward to all your future videos!!

[@athumanahmed9374]

thank you so much

[@nganleo2645]

Amazing video, learn a lot ,thank you

[@Deidre749]

Great video! Thank you. 🙂

[@kartikchauhan2778]

Sir pls share ur views on automation

[@prabu2778]

Js for front , Php for backend

[@ikemkrueger]

Very good video. The only thing I miss is the AI route.

[@miracleeboumbou]

Cool break down

[@momakplayz7985]

I know html and css but am learning javascript, but for some reason I keep forgetting some stuff that I learned in html and css please help me!!!!

[@michaelhofby]

you must keep building projects so that you dont forget.. To make knowledge stick you must get it under your skin so that you could do it in your sleep, and practical practice is the way to do that. Stop watching so many videos and just start building a personal project , and when you get in doubt about something do what we as devs do - look it up. Keep doing this with projects that require html and css ONLY, until you can create basically any design in html and css just by looking at a design mockup. THEN move onto javascript

[@diwakarmourya4727]

Hey Kyle, please help me out with block chain

[@Crimetales123]

What about mobile app development

[@armanx2]

Full stack period :)

[@moizkhalid2714]

make some videos on database

[@abusiness8783]

I prefer backend since I’m not that creative

[@madie2659]

Same

[@jhonhernandez9210]

On almost all the companies I have been, there is no front-end developer, they just use a library like kendo or bootstrap, they know that can spare the fron-end developer, so, thats not an option. Back-end could be, but I dont like writing sql statements, taking things to the server or the cloud like aws is like beeing a console programmer, is well paid, but our programs have little cloud services code, son invest a lot of time of that wont produce a big reward. Full-stack is the only option, I´ve realized that in java is most of the code, so my life will be easier if I become an expert. Dont be romantic, be realistic... idealism is like pride, in the end it never helps

[@IlyaKomar]

> they just use a library like kendo or bootstrap Ha-ha-ha)))) You know nothing about front!

[@chase4972]

return Math.floor(math.random()*(max + 1)) ..... Pls I need explanation on this code..pls make a video on it as soon as possible.

[@Kuch_Bhi-lets_explore_it]

Great Video useful

[@THEBOYS-se7qv]

am i the only one who is confused by his devops description?

[@knightr1der]

Are u Jordi's big brother??

[@WebDevSimplified]

I don't even know who Jordi is. Lol. I do not have a brother.

[@adrianlopez414]

@@WebDevSimplified Jordi ENP, a scientist 😂😂😂

[@arshadsiddiqui9071]

I love both but doing it all is vomit. I kinda wanna flip flop between projects tbh.

[@nicdemus-rc7gc]

I saw your calculator video, mama mia you code and think so fast, how long did it take you to feel comfortable in programming ie having a good enough knowledge of structure so that you could confidently apply it even if a project may be difficult or more than you were used to or had done before, I''d like to be proficient at JS or even really good at it but eh it makes my head hurt at the moment! Great videos Kyle, thanks!

[@WebDevSimplified]

I would say it took me at least a year before I really started to have things click for me. The stuff I made was still pretty subpar, but I was confident enough to create pretty much anything web development related I could think of. The second year for me was a lot about improving my code structure and learning more advanced and cleaner ways to do things.

[@nicdemus-rc7gc]

Thanks for that, I know I have improved from knowing how to use GIT for a start, but remembering different attributes, how to reset CSS, where to put the script tag, installing flow eslint and node. I say this because when I learned them I just wanted to code and see a result and then you spend hours or days figuring something else out. I decided the best way is to learn one language really well now that I can create a page so JS seemed the obvious one, I want to be good at it so to learn algorithms et al so I can look at a problem and know how to approach it instinctively..still doing tutorials to embed the structure of the code and be familiar but at the same time thinking of small projects to use simple JS which Im not far off from doing so hey ho....thanks for you reply and your videos and have a great day!!!

[@GuRuGeorge03]

I highly recommend that when u start out ur career that u get a fullstack position and especially one where u get the chance to learn a bunch of new languages/architectures/anything. If you can show 3-5 years of experience with various different languages, databases, frameworks etc. in a fulltime job, you will be extremely valuable later on while still having the flexibility to specialize. If you immediately go into backend only with php only for example. you will basically force urself into being a php backend programmer unless u r willing to start over again with a lower salary, which most people don't, so they end up programming backend php forever

[@hawkdykes9054]

How can a guy that makes such quality content not know how to pronounce "especially"!!

[@phronessys]

Sir you looks like jordiENP

[@SorakaOTP462]

If you want to be able to create a website on your own, fullstack is the best, the rest are useless.

[@dia5]

I personally think the fullest Full Stack Developer in 2022 is the one who have knowledge in UI/UX, Frontend, Backend, a little bit in DevOps, and Mobile Development (React Native or Flutter). In other words a developer who can create a turnkey website and its mobile app from scratch and bring it to the production stage.

[@JeanDidier]

Exactly the path I am considering

[@femaledeer]

From my experiences, large companies hire people from india to manage databases. So even if you learn database development well, you may never get the opportunity to implement one.

[@korany07]

It would be better if you mention between which second you mention about what. This will allow people like me not to watch the all video. I would be watching only the part that I was interested in.

[@mahdirahman8451]

i wanna be a full stack but im not that smart

[@vincesanchez7790]

FULLSTACK

[@Sol-hh6vp]

hi Kyle, Dam.. you helped me a lot! by the way...I like you

[@rodrigovazquez420]

Another great video, but a friend of mine was like: omg dude don't stare at me! lol He said you should move your camera a little bit 🙈

[@WebDevSimplified]

It's just a webcam so I don't really have many options on moving it unfortunately

[@saileshthapa5970]

Great...

[@WebDevSimplified]

Thanks!

[@airjuri]

And then there is actual programming. Nothing to do with web development. If you know how, you will make "motors" for backend developers. ;)

[@Pareshbpatel]

{2021-09-23}

[@kitgary]

I would never choose frontend, I am not sure if that's the case in US and Europe, but frontend developers are always looked down by backend developers in Asia!

[@jkovert]

Heh heh He said “backend” heh heh heh

[@tir3dnow792]

haha

[@BryanChance]

Oh no don't let a frontend developer setup a production database. Hehe -;)

[@pakoti96]

You keep saying "creative" when you should really be saying "artistic"

[@andreas543]

This. You have to be creative both in FE and BE.