which raiden should you buy (xsoft vs mid)

/ swaylouie
/ swaylouie

[@vulpocalypse]

this video is really great man, i’ve wanted to make one similar! i’m glad i found another lover of XS! another reason i like it is i have the habit of pushing into my pad when making micro adjustments or ads.

[@Sway___SD]

yeah it's hard to put my finger on why I love xsoft so much more because I'm using the skypad xl right now and I'm equally in love LMFAOOOO pads are such a wild personal journey

[@vulpocalypse]

@@Sway___SD i totally agree though, they're far more interesting than i could have ever thought.

[@mrwater2033]

:/ Sadly I'm using a hayate otsu (Mid) - it's slower than what I'm used to but the issue with this mousepad would be that I'm basically getting my wrist + arm stuck onto the mousepad after a while. I have a cheap 25$ mousepad from xtrfy and it doesn't make my wrist stick to it at all.

[@juneoh21]

I've been using a hardpad (logitech g440) for years and am planning to buy a raiden. I want a bit more stopping power/control but I'm worried because I do grip/press down on my mouse hard. At the moment I've ordered a Raiden mid but I'm unsure if the xsoft is the better option for me.

[@Terra101]

If you press down hard then i would not recommend the xsoft.

[@ghostamirr]

Bro did u get your raiden mid? How was it? Do you recommend it?

[@tinypickle]

Are you back on the raiden now? Or otsu best girl for you still? Been trying to hunt down an otsu but they're always oos. Also corona has made shipping from Japan a bitch

[@Sway___SD]

I don't even know what's going on with me right now LMFAO I think I still perform best with the hayate otsu but I've been shuffling through the skypad XL and the Odin Infinity a bunch just felt like talking about the Raiden today :D

[@Mazexm]

Good video, how do you like your preonic? Im currently using a 40%, and I recently started maining a mouse with no scroll wheel. I feel like I need and upsize for gaming. Idk im thinking about the preonic but im not sure.

[@Sway___SD]

preonic is perfect for me the layout gives me everything I need and I only use one other layer super fun and ortho makes typing actually bearable for me, can't imagine switching off ortho ever

[@Terra101]

Ok so I have decided that I would probably like the Raiden, but this Mid or Xsoft is hurting my brain. I tried the Hien Xsoft once and absolutely hated it. But I feel that was because of the rough surface of the Hien. I guess I'll end up with both.

[@nlmaster9811]

Did you get both? Thoughts?

[@やんしこ]

@@nlmaster9811 Raiden has a comfortable texture

[@やんしこ]

@@nlmaster9811 But sometimes there are spinouts

[@WisdomPowerCourage]

Great review. I put a lot of pressure on my palm, and drag it around on the mousepad. Did I understand correctly that the mid will give better smoothness to my palm, or did you mean for the mouse feet?

[@Sway___SD]

for both actually mid is just overall a lot better for anyone who's a tad bit heavy handed!

[@WisdomPowerCourage]

@@Sway___SD sweet, thanks!

[@yoriow877]

Hey I have a worn g640 with a g703 lightspeed. And I must say, it feels terrible. Whenever I change the direction, in which my mouse is moving, my mouse sorta sticks to the sureface for a little... now I am playing Overwatch, low sens. When I play heroes that need lots of accuracy, it feels like I need even more controll. On faster characters, a medium quick(faster) mousepad could be the best. I heard good stuff about the hien, but the XY difference scares me because overwatch needs lots of Y movement. Do you have revommendations for me? Also I want something that lasts longer than this g640, it cant be repaired by washing, which is just trash.

[@Sway___SD]

sounds like the new hayate otsu would be perfect for you honestly I prefer xsoft but soft is the safest bet it's the perfect pad when coming from something like the g640 because it's static friction is very low so your first initial movement feel effortless but then it gives you a good bit of control still my favorite pad and I know it would do you well

[@yoriow877]

@@Sway___SD Ouuuuh never looked at that, thank you for your recommendation!

[@yoriow877]

@@Sway___SD Literaly just purchased it, so exited!

[@mxti1]

nice vid

[@westangle]

mensss why did i only search about the pad after i made my purchase 😂😂😂 now i felt like i should've purchased the xsoft instead of raiden mid

[@Sway___SD]

mid is still super sick!!! you'll love it and a lot of. people prefer mid

[@Smurfson]

Very Intriguing Sway!

[@MastRYT]

either u want to slow down a fuck ton when u accidentally grip too hard. or you dont. if u dont, buy mid. simple as that

[@erenender3685]

I saw that you are using a razer viper ultimate withthese two raiden artisan mousepad, but i have a question, did they give you any sensor problem?

[@Sway___SD]

i main the Hati S!!! I've gotten a few spin outs on it but nothing major however razer mice perform flawlessly on my raidens

[@erenender3685]

@@Sway___SD well, thanks, i was going to buy a raiden but i wasn't sure if my mouse could have any problem with the sensor, again thanks man

[@cable5218]

I currently use an amp500 and am looking to grab an artisan pad. do you think that the Raiden would be too fast for me?

[@Sway___SD]

possibly it's really hard to tell, some people completely fall in love with the Raiden but it's a very difficult pad to control hayate otsu and the zero are always the safest bets if you don't know what you'll like, with the former being a bit faster than the zero ofc

[@ohhzymo5829]

so i currently got the GRS SE or something (blue shit pad) I used the skypad for 1 month and loved it, but i had to sell it because of the low friction... i need an inbetween

[@sodiepopps]

excellent shit sway! keep up the great work homie

[@Creesl]

thank u i ordered a raiden xsoft by accident from my shidenkai xsoft/hien xsoft and thought it was a mistake

[@themouselady275]

Thanks for the follow on Twitch earlier. Also, amazing video. I have the mid but I wanna try xsoft too. Excited for your next upload!

[@Sway___SD]

ty ;-; probably talking about my extended experience with the Hati S or Odin Infinity next

[@themouselady275]

@@Sway___SD can’t wait! Does the xsoft have a good bit of stopping power since it’s a lot softer? I’m intrigued tbh

[@Sway___SD]

@@themouselady275 this is where I think it changes person to person because you can Def push into the sponge a bit to slow it down the tiniest bit but I didn't really feel like there was any more control per se maybe the slightest bit that I just don't notice too much since I'm pretty light handed anyways

[@themouselady275]

@@Sway___SD gotcha! well thanks so much for letting me know! a friend of mine is selling me her infinity pad, super excited to try it and compare it to my Hien Soft!

[@Divinity_vA]

@@Sway___SD Basically my experience. I see people talk about "sink in" or use it in your advantage , but even if i press into my xsoft , i really doesn't change it's speed that much. I tried multiple mice , from 50 up to 114g weight , big/small feet.

[@refumeta]

hey, after this time, you think the version xsoft is the same to It from the beginning in terms of speed?

[@rollstep]

thanks for the perspective!

[@balcoz2004]

Im so glad I bought the hien in xsoft

[@Sway___SD]

xsoft master raceeeeee

[@balcoz2004]

@@Sway___SD maybe you can make like a top 3 artisan mousepads? I know its preference but most people agree that the hien, the zero and the raiden are the best ones, but how about the new hayate otsu, is it really a better hien?

[@Sway___SD]

@@balcoz2004 don't think I'll make a top 3 video so I'll give it to you Otsu Kou (my main) Raiden otsu is no doubt the overall best pad jve ever used, it's completely unique. I'm using the kou over it because I like the arm feel more + the xy difference but I think nothing comes close to the otsu low static friction, speed while still controlled, chefs kiss etc etc

[@julianlange8132]

I want something similar to shidenkai xsoft, but its too slippery... Should I get Raiden mid? or raiden xsoft? nice video!

[@julianlange8132]

well, i like the softness of xsoft, so i might get it

[@julianlange8132]

I also have the hayate otsu soft, but I wish it was a little bit more fast

[@Sway___SD]

I'd go for Raiden xsoft, not as slippy but still fast as fuck

[@ravisinha6776]

what mouse feet do you have that it slides like that ?

[@Nick-ti9rz]

The slightest weight on an xsoft artisan pad definitely will slow you down compared to mids. At the end of the day obviously preference.

[@richburmond6761]

Yo dude, i need some help :( and you seem to have quite some pads. Currently have a raiden mid. Looking for a replacement:( I was maining it and REALLY loved the feel. But I was missing some shots and flicks knowing I would hit. For example, night and day difference when im playing apex with wingman. I had to switch to an old amp900 where im more accurate because of the control. But i really miss the feel of the raiden mid + the speed. I play on like 40cm/360. Did a loooot of research, but most pads, even hayate otsu v2 seem to have quite a bit rougher texture than the raiden mid for example. I really need something that is also silky smooth to the touch. My hand is just too happy. Also humidity should not do anything and it should be durable. Any recommendations? I live in EU so some pads are impossible to get by :(

[@Sway___SD]

hmmmmm if I were you I'd probably go for the gamesense radar or the Odin Eclipse, both of those should be on max gaming

[@richburmond6761]

@@Sway___SD will read up on them tomorrow thanks! And I just found out i can buy a wicked bunny sprint (L which is 900x 410 mm lol) on amazon for 16 euro's. Think it is worth to check a cordura pad out as well?

[@Sway___SD]

@@richburmond6761 cordura is extremely rough on the arm which is why I never go for it I also prefer any pad that feels like the Raiden

[@richburmond6761]

@@Sway___SD Aah damn, i thought it was pretty smooth, but then it is not an option. I'll just checkout the 2 u mentioned and try the otsu mid or soft on the side :)

[@joemama6216]

The xsoft looks really good, but the other one looks kinda mid.

[@meatbot.404]

Could you confirm or deny that xsoft provides extra stopping power?

[@Sway___SD]

the stopping power you would get would be from putting weight/force into the pad I've heard of some people even riding their fingers off the edge of the mouse to dig into the pad so the stopping power isn't the same stopping power you'd feel on a slower control pad, it's distinctly different because you're abusing the sponge at least that's how I've come to understand it

[@meatbot.404]

@@Sway___SD Good to know, thanks for replying!

[@MT_Abyss]

Maining the otsu x soft and I’m in love. Should I give soft a shot ?

[@Sway___SD]

I'm an xsoft fan boy!!! it's always worth to try soft and mid just to make sure you know what you truly love if you can afford it but xsoft is my fav no doubt

[@tirthkachhia6650]

If you have a wired mouse or heavier wireless mouse I’d recommend soft

[@refumeta]

@@Sway___SD raiden xsoft Does it keep up the speed or does it look muddy compared to the mid after a year?

[@bitchnigga4349]

just ordered a mid raiden, does it actually feel like a hard pad? I've never actually used a hard pad and heard the mid is the fastest, let me know if I made a bad choice.

[@Sway___SD]

Raiden mid is the experience that mimics a hard pad most closely, yeah

[@bitchnigga4349]

@@Sway___SD I press down pretty hard when I game so maybe it's a good thing I didn't get a soft?

[@MultiSneakerLover]

Errybody and they momma naming themselves sway😂

[@Sway___SD]

thank you for the input LOL