Which Remote ID Module is Right For You? - COMPLETE TEST

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@jstewart627
@jstewart627 Жыл бұрын
6:09 when you say if you don't want to be detected... you are testing with your cell phone range, and that is nothing compared to what the air traffic controller uses, which is around 30 miles.
@dfwfpv
@dfwfpv Жыл бұрын
we appreciate your tests! i love that shorter range is considered a feature. lol
@HisXLNC
@HisXLNC Жыл бұрын
The amazing thing about this new regulation is that there is no standard established beyond what the FCC allows for power outout. Theoretically, you can build a module powered by a coin cell battery that won’t broadcast beyond 5 feet for more than 10 minutes and it would still be compliant. I see a future of cheap, Chinese-built, “compliance modules” coming to market when it’s finally established that remote ID will stick around.
@RonaldBrown59
@RonaldBrown59 Жыл бұрын
Great testings of the new RID modules. The pricing of these was much higher than I expected. I also didn't expect them to all look very different. In the future I hope the more affordable $50 and under modules finally arrive. Thanks for testing them out, and sharing all this information with the community.
@33rdframe
@33rdframe Жыл бұрын
"you need to make sure that your foam toy plane is broadcadting your location to the public so that you will not endanger national security" Welcome to 1984
@VicMossPhotography
@VicMossPhotography Жыл бұрын
Concise and full of much needed information, just like all your videos. Thanks PI!
@gregpate4554
@gregpate4554 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the testing and information. My RID is my new Air 3. Don’t let it ruin the fun hobby for you. Just go out, fly and have fun doing it.
@jillrsimmons
@jillrsimmons Жыл бұрын
Thanks for all that Greg!
@cameranerdsmedia
@cameranerdsmedia Жыл бұрын
Thanks Pilot Institute! Best Drone Content on KZbin
@eqbviewllc7111
@eqbviewllc7111 Жыл бұрын
agree . . reliable and professional !
@woowaptibam5253
@woowaptibam5253 3 ай бұрын
Great video!! You explained everything very well!
@MrJackHackney
@MrJackHackney Жыл бұрын
Got a Dronetag BS when they were half off in May. Just got it last week and was able to hook it up to a small lipo battery and attached to my Mavic Pro. Weighs 16grams with battery. Both Drone Scanner and Drone Tag apps picked it up and tracked it. Max range was about 1600 feet using BT Legacy 4 if attached to the back of the Mavic over the LED. Range was shorter at about 900 feet if I attached to the top of the Mavic. A second set of combo antennas did not seem to make much difference. Question: Does the drone have to be labeled on the outside with the RID serial number?
@explorer8888
@explorer8888 Жыл бұрын
I like that idea. What is a lipo battery?
@regs3836
@regs3836 Жыл бұрын
@@explorer8888 ? You’re joking, right…?
@NickzAndMikz
@NickzAndMikz Жыл бұрын
@@explorer8888A battery type.
@NickzAndMikz
@NickzAndMikz Жыл бұрын
@@regs3836how about you help them learn?
@regs3836
@regs3836 Жыл бұрын
@@NickzAndMikz I was truly shocked that anyone involved with these things would not know what a lipo battery is! And you sure did a stellar job of educating them!
@russshanks5913
@russshanks5913 Жыл бұрын
The Spektrum SkyID people say that it is compatible with all receivers, just plug in a servo type cable to get power to it. Very smart way to save a bit of weight. I pre-ordered it yesterday for $69. It looks small enough to put on the inside of many RC planes. For Part 107 pilots, is it one RID for EACH plane or can you move it if you go and change it on the website?
@HighlanderMikeGolf
@HighlanderMikeGolf Жыл бұрын
My “old” Mavic Air 2 still doesn’t have an RID firmware update available from DJI. I bought the Bluemark DB120. One nice feature about that one is you can make it “Karen-proof”. Keith at Alien Drones has the hack. Thanks Greg to you and your team for the in-depth comparison. You guys always have the best and most accurate content.
@anthonychrismartin7888
@anthonychrismartin7888 Жыл бұрын
Is there going to be a update for DJI Air 2?
@HighlanderMikeGolf
@HighlanderMikeGolf Жыл бұрын
@@anthonychrismartin7888 That’s what the rumor is, but I’ve heard it’s not going to be until late September. I haven’t seen anything official from DJI, just what others have said DJI has said to them.
@ryanjonesdronechannel724
@ryanjonesdronechannel724 Жыл бұрын
Hey, just to check, what are the remote id rules for the dji mini and mini 2 drones? I haven't seen it on the faa list. If they are required to use rid modules, which ones would you recommend for the mini and mini 2 drones? Would prefer something under $100 at most if possible. Thought I would ask
@williamwalton6934
@williamwalton6934 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your video. It was very informative. Unfortunately, I can't afford to buy a broadcast module for my Hubsan Zino 2+ so I'll put it aside, let my Part 107 certificate lapse, purchase a DJI mini 3 pro or better yet a Hover Air X1 and just fly recreationally. It would be interesting for someone to do a follow-up in about 4 months on "What it costs to fly at a CBO's FRIA?" ; not only in dollars but in scheduling and availability of the site.
@onmyworkbench7000
@onmyworkbench7000 Жыл бұрын
*_BIG BROTHER_* is always watching *_YOU!!!_*
@vonSchwartzwolfe
@vonSchwartzwolfe Жыл бұрын
I feel the Range really only needs to be line of sight,
@Daniel_W_
@Daniel_W_ Жыл бұрын
Good Morning Everyone! Im curious why the design of moduals needs to be attached to the drone and not the contoller. My flight controller (GL300K) for Phantom 4 Pro 2.0 has multiple inouts and output ports, what cant the information of location of the drone and pilot be provided by the fligt contoller? Its all literally provided on te screen or phone deoending on the controller. I just find this odd that this has not been a solution. However I could be wrong and DJI may even restrict that information from having the ability to tranmit or even be provided externaly.
@antoniogaranzuay6009
@antoniogaranzuay6009 5 ай бұрын
just purchased a SwelPro Max drone for fishing and understand requirement for RID. Is my drone required to have RID as Im only flying in non populated areas. I have purchased the Potensic , Model RID-916-US and wondered if it will suffice to comply with FAA RID.
@TommyTester
@TommyTester Жыл бұрын
Where in the regs does it say you can use a Broadcast RID module for Part 107 operations as you're suggesting?
@PilotInstitute
@PilotInstitute Жыл бұрын
It's a bit complicated to piece it all together. The Remote ID regulation is under part 89, not part 107. Part 89 applies to drones that require registration (as per 89.101), that includes drones operated under part 107. 89.115 talks about modules as an option to meet the requirements. www.ecfr.gov/current/title-14/chapter-I/subchapter-F/part-89/subpart-B/section-89.115
@captraykelly
@captraykelly Жыл бұрын
Great video, Greg. Simple RID is not necessary. All I can say I’ll be compliant and good luck to the FAA enforcing it.
@foxriversystems7380
@foxriversystems7380 Жыл бұрын
I agree about the difficulty of enforcing the RID rule. I think they will catch/fine people when they run into a reportable (damage) issue or if the FAA decides to do some random checking to verify compliance. While I'm not an attorney, I'm thinking that in either situation, they could compel a pilot to provide flight logs and they will know the status of the RID registration for the specific drone.
@glenesis
@glenesis Жыл бұрын
If the FAA was intending to enforce it they'd have specified something better than BT or Wifi.
@flat-earther
@flat-earther Жыл бұрын
hi captraykelly, have you become a flat earther yet?
@dunordable
@dunordable Жыл бұрын
I have an original DJI Mini (
@NickzAndMikz
@NickzAndMikz Жыл бұрын
@@dunordableI think that’s correct
@garrettkensler451
@garrettkensler451 Жыл бұрын
Give me the shittiest cheapest rid module that gets only 5ft of range. As long as I'm compliant, I really don't care how great these RID modules are.
@flat-earther
@flat-earther Жыл бұрын
hi garrett, have you become a flat earther yet?
@afunkusamongus
@afunkusamongus 11 ай бұрын
Maybe I’m misunderstanding but in order to be remote ID compliant it has to transmit the advanced telemetry data, specifically the live coordinates of the controller. In addition these devices have to be on the FAA’s published list of approved devices. Last I looked there were no compliant modules.
@PilotInstitute
@PilotInstitute 11 ай бұрын
A module doesn’t need to broadcast the location of the controller, only standard rid drones need to do that. And yes, they must be in the DOC list to be legal, there are plenty of them there: uasdoc.faa.gov/listDocs
@CactusJackSlade
@CactusJackSlade Жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks! I wish you would also test the Holy Stone RID module, it is only $90, but most importantly available on Amazon right now. I emailed them and they provided me with their FAA cert, but I know that does not mean it works 100%. I will be watching your channel in hopes of a test!
@OliverMagyar
@OliverMagyar 5 ай бұрын
There is another tool named Flarm Aurora from Switzerland. Works with a Powerbank and USB C Port. My problem was, that I didn´t find a complete manual. More expensive as Dronetag, but prepared for additional settings who will comes in the future for drones.
@RossSmith-o5z
@RossSmith-o5z Жыл бұрын
This really is the biggest problem and why the FAA is not doing a good job at all in this roll out of remote Id. By giving us this date and then turning around and saying oh well now it's gonna be pushed back while it's great for people who haven't been able to get there modules yet, for the people that have shoveled out the hundreds of dollars to get there drones legal are going to look at these rules as a big joke. By the time they do have to comply they are not going to take any of it seriously. And to be honest why should they they did everything they were supposed to shoveled out a ridiculous amount of money just to find out that the FAA can't even keep there word on a date. Or there gonna wait till prices fall! These rules will never be taken seriously and this will ultimately end up failing.
@reginaldcobb5456
@reginaldcobb5456 8 ай бұрын
I have a Mini 3 Pro and registration related to using the larger batteries. I am using the drone for fun around the house and some hunting areas. Since I am in a configuration with larger batteries, and strobe lights, I figure I will need the remote ID module. In the less than 250g configurations, I will be using the light batteries and strobes (which i have weight them to check compliance). Will the registration for the larger battery, automatically require the use of remote ID modules on the light configuration? Thanks for the weekly information. Oh yeah, I need to finish the training class.....Life.
@thomasesparza9175
@thomasesparza9175 Жыл бұрын
When you register your module, the module serial number replaces the original drone serial number. Do you leave the original drone serial number on the outside of the drone, or do you have to replace it with the registered module serial number?
@dutchovenguy
@dutchovenguy Жыл бұрын
Thank for all the hard work. Timely and necessary info.
@cjdangles
@cjdangles Жыл бұрын
I have just 1 drone, and fly very infrequently. It's a Mavic Air 2, which I found isn't remote-ID ready so I need to add a module. I somehow missed the relevance of the detection range. Does that limit the distance I can fly? In other words do I want one with the most range possible?
@SydneyJones-zh7yq
@SydneyJones-zh7yq 2 ай бұрын
1:50 I hope that you guys are doing well! Real quick, I had a question regarding how you keep the module on the drone itself (I also use the DB120). I see what looks like a little Velcro on there, but I wasn't entirely sure. Is this velcro or is this something else? if it is something else, would you please let me know how to secure it safely? On a side note, I'm also looking for two extra batteries for my DJI Mini 2 SE. Would you happen to know a reliable place to get both? Thank you so much, and I hope you all have a great day! :)
@onedsc1
@onedsc1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Greg, If your drone is already listed in the FAA database as being compliant will the iPhone/Android apps detect them correctly? Do we need to do anything in the DroneZone?
@PrimalDrones
@PrimalDrones Жыл бұрын
Greg, if you fly to where the module is out of range are you still compliant?
@PilotInstitute
@PilotInstitute Жыл бұрын
Yes! Getting a signal from the control station is not a requirement.
@Carguyforlife
@Carguyforlife 8 ай бұрын
Do y'all know if there is any way to use the Dronetag DRI with a flight controller using betaflight? I don't have any experience with Ardupilot but Bardwell had recommended this one (months ago). The price point and size is very appealing. I would be sure to pair it with a GPS.
@wszumi1
@wszumi1 Жыл бұрын
Do you plan on testing the distance RID transmissions in drones that have it part of their firmware?
@NickzAndMikz
@NickzAndMikz Жыл бұрын
Good idea
@DavidLPitman
@DavidLPitman Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this comprehensive look at the current marketplace! The ideal that each individual drone used under Part 107 needs it's own unique module is somewhat inconsistent with the FAA's explanation that RID's purpose is to associate responsibility of any particular operation to an actual human. Certainly, that can be accomplished with one, properly registered module moved between a particular owner's UV. But then, the FAA figured they would cost between $25-$50 dollars as well. I will be eagerly watching how this rolls out. Of all the regulations that the FAA has adopted with regard to UAS thus far, this implementation of RID seems to be the most "messy", for lack of a better word, so far.
@jdp1956
@jdp1956 Жыл бұрын
I read in the DJI site that we will have a firmware upgrade no later than 9/30/2023 for the Mavic Air 2 which will active the internal RID. So, does that mean there is no need to buy an external module ? I'm kinda confused now.
@ChrisParayno
@ChrisParayno Жыл бұрын
Correct but for the month you'll be non compliant.
@0utcast
@0utcast Жыл бұрын
​@ChrisParayno great. I sure as shit wasn't going to buy a module nor am I going to update the f/w. Not going to endanger my life with all the gun retards near where I live
@sapphiresphone7144
@sapphiresphone7144 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! Where can i find your tested range info for the Ft Ezid, Dronetag BS and spectrum?
@PilotInstitute
@PilotInstitute Жыл бұрын
As soon as we have those units.. The FT one is coming back after firmware flashing which needed to be done on the unit, the BS is in transit, and we ordered the spektrum when it came out but I don't think it has shipped yet.
@sapphiresphone7144
@sapphiresphone7144 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I look forward to it!
@-joshualee-
@-joshualee- Жыл бұрын
Thanks. But how about DJI Air 3? I just purchased it but when I check the list of remote ID there is no DJI Air 3. I'm very frustrated for that.
@70ccbigdog
@70ccbigdog 10 ай бұрын
Is the Holy Stone one on Amazon good with the FFA. Help please.
@ThomasGreenlaw
@ThomasGreenlaw Жыл бұрын
Good video, I have a Drone tag Beacon . Have using it on a drone and in a sailplane. Your correct this module on the upper end of the price point., but think that at will hold up moving the module from one to another. And the broadcast range might be shorter than others, but we a are flying in the range of sight right? So i think you pay a little more for quality, and this where Drone Tag shines. In Az.
@PatriciaBerry-y2n
@PatriciaBerry-y2n Жыл бұрын
Just curious, how does a Mavic 3 pro compare to these modules in terms of transmission distance?
@NickzAndMikz
@NickzAndMikz Жыл бұрын
Great question
@zadjikproductions3981
@zadjikproductions3981 Жыл бұрын
For my DJI Mini 3Pro, following your recommendations, I downloaded Drone Scanner (Android), but it didn't work. Neither did OpendroneID. Searching for insight, I ran across something that said "DJI drones broadcast via WiFi Beacon" so these scanners may not work. Could you maybe elaborate on the scanners in a little more detail?
@DoctorMangler
@DoctorMangler Жыл бұрын
Most RC pilots I know aren't registering, nor are they going to use remote ID. FCC doesn't have the manpower to do anything meaningful about it. My recommendation is people put a small RC car in their pocket, and if some FAA inspector starts questioning the pilot, the pilot should then crash the aircraft, and switch to the car. FAA fines will be so heavy it's worth ditching the drone, but RID doesn't apply to ground RC. Screw the FAA, what a bunch of sick overreach. In my city, politicians would rather make it easier for kids to get drugs than get into RC.
@thomasesparza9175
@thomasesparza9175 Жыл бұрын
I purchased the DroneTag Beacon on July 31 and the supplier, Madison Area Drone Service, stated this week they are receiving and shipping out the first week of September. When I pre-ordered mine, it was listed at $199, but their website now shows $252 & ETA 8 weeks as of 8/23/2023!
@NickzAndMikz
@NickzAndMikz Жыл бұрын
That sucks
@15PSI
@15PSI Жыл бұрын
Greg - I think it would be useful to note that the Spektrum RID module is currently sold for $69. The price will increase to $99 in the future. I am still waiting for mine. - Joe O.
@PilotInstitute
@PilotInstitute Жыл бұрын
We have that info in the PDF companion but we wanted this video to stand the test of time.
@johnrusscher3954
@johnrusscher3954 Жыл бұрын
@@PilotInstitute Seems like you could have said that the into price is $69 and the regular price will be $99. You talked about other prices. Also, the SkyID works will all transmitter/receiver brands. It comes with three different types of connectors so that it will work with any receiver.
@aaron6516
@aaron6516 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I got two DT beacons... 1 it's light standalone and has a long run time. And added benifit... short range 😂 thanks for sharing!
@nmfireman
@nmfireman Жыл бұрын
Was interested in the EZ ID, but really can’t find a place to purchase it. Nobody seems to have it even on their website.
@jakependergist
@jakependergist Жыл бұрын
Greg, I'm a little confused by your statements; you said that if our drone is listed under the FAA Declaration of Compliance then a remote ID is not required "Unless it is older." Can you elaborate on that further? Does that mean that if I have an AIR S2 if it were manufactured before a certain date I would still need to get a remote ID for it even if it's listed as compliant?
@PilotInstitute
@PilotInstitute Жыл бұрын
No, if your drone is on the DOC list, it doesn't need a MODULE (meaning it's an older drone). Your Air2S is on the DOC, you don't need a module.
@jeannesdroneventures6078
@jeannesdroneventures6078 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Very informative! But I really do hope there is a delay in the current RID required date. I have the Mavic 2 Pro and Mavic 2 Zoom and am a recreational flyer and its a lot of money to spend until the firmware update happens in hopefully December. I really feel many people won't be able to afford the module or feel it's worth purchasing to just use for a few months!
@bfooteprints
@bfooteprints Жыл бұрын
Great info! Thanks for sharing your tests... Do you all plan to, or have you already tested drones with internal, included modules? I have a somewhat newer, late-model Air 2S and I'm wondering how far the range is for scanners to detect. I have installed a couple of scanner apps on a separate phone, but haven't tested with someone traveling at a distance to see if they can spot me on an app.
@PilotInstitute
@PilotInstitute Жыл бұрын
We will be doing that testing soon.
@bfooteprints
@bfooteprints Жыл бұрын
@@PilotInstitute appreciate your reply!
@clocksurfer
@clocksurfer 3 ай бұрын
I recently bought a Ruko R111. It's small, light, & cheap (
@55Wings
@55Wings 3 ай бұрын
Are you able to locate a lost UAS? What range?
@clocksurfer
@clocksurfer 3 ай бұрын
@@55Wings It does claim to have a "find me" feature. I don't think the range is fantastic on this broadcast module, but the aircraft's own system would work well in that capacity.
@garywhite2825
@garywhite2825 Жыл бұрын
Great video as usual. The problem I have right now is that none of the four modules seems to be available by the compliance deadline. They are all backordered or shipping in October. Anyone know of a vendor that has any in stock?
@PilotInstitute
@PilotInstitute Жыл бұрын
No one does at the moment, unfortunately
@Stirling_RC_Videos
@Stirling_RC_Videos Жыл бұрын
Great video. I'd already decided on the SkyID ($69) and added a Spektrum battery ($15) and charger ($22) that will also charge other RC plane batteries. A small plastic box will contain the battery and wires and I'll velcro the SkyID to the box and the box to the drone. We will see if that actually works. I'm only using this on an old drone that I fly just for fun and not for any video or photos as the camera is not great.
@explorer8888
@explorer8888 Жыл бұрын
Hey Bruce! I just checked their website. They have many battery options. Which one did you get or recommend?
@illeagle7209
@illeagle7209 Жыл бұрын
do any of the remote id's need to be activated an id so how
@How-to-by-Lou
@How-to-by-Lou Жыл бұрын
This great.. thanks sooooooo much for testing - am waiting for the Drone Tag BS and Spektrum SkyID to hook up and have a baby. Then one will have a really sleek looking remote ID module they can solder onto their flight controller.... - in the beginning these things were a monstrosity but according to moor's law they will get smaller and cheeper. And so I wait.. Glad it was delayed.. Just found out that my GEPRC CineLog that's still in the box isn't remote ID compliant
@jeremyleonbarlow
@jeremyleonbarlow Жыл бұрын
The screwy thing is the gray area after a new release for a drone. The DJI Mini 4 Pro is not listed on the FAA compliance list, YET, but I assume it will be, what do you do then? Get a separate module? Or what is the deal?
@PilotInstitute
@PilotInstitute Жыл бұрын
It will be. It already broadcasts.
@6010rocks
@6010rocks Жыл бұрын
does altitude get factored into the distance. lets say the drone tag beacon at 400 agl are you not able to get a signal standing 5 feet away? you stated about 350 foot range
@PilotInstitute
@PilotInstitute Жыл бұрын
The number we gave is the direct distance from the controller. So in the case of the 350 ft one, it was at 350 feet right on top of us and that's as far as we got it.
@TheDroneAngle
@TheDroneAngle Жыл бұрын
Currently, the FAA website will accept the same RID serial number for multiple drones, which actually makes sense. The Dronetag control App does have some setup for which drone you are using although I don't know if that info is broadcast. There is no real logical reason for a specific remote ID to be tied to a specific drone, so requiring one module per drone is ridiculous and an onerous requirement. I believe it's just an assumption from the extension of the requirement to register each drone for commercial pilots. The need is to tie RID to an operator, which their website does. The serial number of the drone needs to be tied to the drone, in case it is found. I think they now know that their $50 estimate was BS. I currently have two modules at the cost of $350 total, but 3 or 4 that I'll need to use them on. The big drone companies can suck it up, but I can't afford that. I'll end up sunsetting some of my drones and the ones that go first are the ones I use only for hobby purposes. I'm also worried about interference. What is the likelyhood of one of these modules interfering with GPS or the control signal, especially if damaged?
@PilotInstitute
@PilotInstitute Жыл бұрын
Yes unfortunately even though the drone zone lets you duplicate the serial number, it goes against part 89 remote ID regulation for part 107 operations.
@eTexNerd
@eTexNerd Жыл бұрын
How do these modules go about ascertaining the location of the operators remote, if that remote does not have GPS? Isn't remote ID supposed to report the position of both the UAS and the Operator?
@HikingSteve
@HikingSteve Жыл бұрын
I was considering the BlueMax DB120 but it's confusing to me as to where to purchase it. The Bluemax site appears to be a manufacturer site. There was a link to dronefly but that appeared to be in the UK. So.... has anyone bought one? If so, where?
@ronmitchell7644
@ronmitchell7644 Жыл бұрын
Gregg I purchased both of the first two RID Modules -- I have received the Dronetag Mini -- It is heavy, documentation is incredibly poor. I have charged it up but not used it yet. There is a subscriptiong they want you to purchase - you get the first 6 months free -- again the documentation is very very poor thus it's not clear what the subscription if for? There is a setting "Public" vs "Private" - without proper documentation, I have no idea what this is for...when I have time, because the status lite is yellow, I will take it out side and see if this keeps the phone apps from see it (which it the only part of the FAA RID rule I don't agree with). I only paid $299.00 for the Dronetag Mini from Volatus Aerospace. As I stated before I have not received the Bluemark yet and I only paid $130 for it.
@russcarlson7262
@russcarlson7262 Жыл бұрын
You reported a tremendous variation in detection distances of the modules, but do these compare to the built-in RID of various drone? How far can FAA detect the drones with built-in or with the add-on modules?
@PilotInstitute
@PilotInstitute Жыл бұрын
We have not been able to test standard Remote ID drones yet. Tht will be a video on its own.
@bradleywhais7779
@bradleywhais7779 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if I could buy a cheap pcb only model and make a chassis and battery for it, and sell it at cost. Would it need a new certification, or would it be fine with the pre-certified module inside? I am talking about the addon modules. They are very light.
@PilotInstitute
@PilotInstitute Жыл бұрын
You'd need to get FAA approval for it. As far as we understand, you tell the FAA that your module is compliant, and they put it on the list. The onus of making sure it's compliant is on the manufacturer, not the FAA (they don't test them).
@bradleywhais7779
@bradleywhais7779 Жыл бұрын
@@PilotInstitute oh cool, I might look into developing my own then.
@glennwallaceweitz
@glennwallaceweitz Жыл бұрын
Can someone please point me to a reputable retailer for a DB120? I only see ONE company (DSLRpro) selling in the US, and they're saying it's a "pre-order". Shouldn't these be available everywhere by now?
@shadowofchaos8932
@shadowofchaos8932 Жыл бұрын
I notice you skipped over how long it takes to get a gps lock for the modules to broadcast legally. 3 to 5 minutes after powering on is what i have noticed because my flight was almost over when it finally locked on. BLUEMARK db modules have an Anti-Karen update so it doesn't broadcast to outside apps only to the FAA. Alien Drones has a video and coupon code on his video.
@PilotInstitute
@PilotInstitute Жыл бұрын
We had much quicker GPS lock times. Less than 30 seconds from power on to getting GPS data on the phones we used to test.
@shadowofchaos8932
@shadowofchaos8932 Жыл бұрын
@@PilotInstitute the drone airtag takes at least 2 minutes from Ken's video. But the options for RID is small
@JakePickett-mz7lg
@JakePickett-mz7lg Жыл бұрын
If that is true than my VTX will burn up before I get the lock to legally be able to get up in the air.
@mrmusicplz09
@mrmusicplz09 6 ай бұрын
So...under 249g drone are now over spec?
@5670and
@5670and Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Greg. You briefly touched on "limited availability" of these modules. Drone Tag's modules, for example, are on back-order for weeks or even months. With the FAA's 09/16/23 date fast approaching, it's unlikely that there will be a lot of compliance by the deadline. Add to that the ridiculous over-pricing of these relatively low-tech modules by the few manufacturers that are making them, plus the general disdain for RID throughout the UAS community, and you have the making of a disastrous start for RID.
@PilotInstitute
@PilotInstitute Жыл бұрын
Indeed! 100% agreed.
@kmatch1
@kmatch1 11 ай бұрын
Sky ID is causing me problems when used on RC planes with telemetry. I bought it for personal use of speed and altitude, neither of which give data through telemetry to my radio screen. All updates have been applied. Plus fades/holds increase by a factor of 10x along with random holds when compared with/without the module. Andy Kunz and 3+ engineers from spektrum are aware and working on this but he's been quiet on the matter for 2-3 weeks.
@travelingboz0214
@travelingboz0214 Жыл бұрын
I have a DJI mini 3 pro with the RC version ground station. I also have the android verion of Drone Scanner on my phone. In multiple flights I have tried multiple setting and yet to have Drone Scanner to see either the mini 3 or the ground station. Anyone have any idea as to why neither the uav or ground station not being seen? Or is this a broadcast issue from the uav and ground station? Both bluetooth and wifi turned on within the phone.
@tomcharters7051
@tomcharters7051 Жыл бұрын
Curious, in your testing of the modules could you see a difference in the handling since the RID module in theory changes the CG of the aircraft based on its placement?
@PilotInstitute
@PilotInstitute Жыл бұрын
No, not heavy enough to impact weight and balance or performance.
@Foundex1
@Foundex1 Жыл бұрын
At what altitude we’re these drones test AGL? I would guess the higher the drone was the easier to detect.
@PilotInstitute
@PilotInstitute Жыл бұрын
400 feet AGL.
@carlosuhlmann2491
@carlosuhlmann2491 Жыл бұрын
Anyone who has study aerodynamics will tell you that the moment you put that device the coefficient of drag goes through the roof. All the questions regarding CG on the Part 107 exam and weight and balance stuff and now we are going to place this modules somewhere in the drone were it may affect the handling of the drone and render it unsafe to fly. Who is responsible for the safe operation of the drone? The remote pilot and, in my case, that's me. Therefore, I've made the decision not to put the freaking thing on my drone, and that's that!
@PilotInstitute
@PilotInstitute Жыл бұрын
Those modules are similar in weight to a strobe. They don’t affect weight and balance.
@eschannel1091
@eschannel1091 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always and very informative. How do you get external power to the Spectrum SkyID modules and other similar modules?
@PilotInstitute
@PilotInstitute Жыл бұрын
If you're using it with a homebuilt, you can power it from the battery (as long as it fits the power criteria) or you will need to buy a small 1S battery to plug it to.
@Stirling_RC_Videos
@Stirling_RC_Videos Жыл бұрын
I bought the Spektrum 300mAh 2S 6.6V Li-Fe Receiver Battery on Amazon for $15 and a Spektrum charger that will have multiple uses, RC plane batteries too. A small plastic box I have will hold the battery and wires with one fed out for the SkyID. Velcro the SkyID to the box and then the box to the drone.
@eschannel1091
@eschannel1091 Жыл бұрын
@@PilotInstitute I have a DJI mini 2. Will this work for it if I were to get the external power?
@eschannel1091
@eschannel1091 Жыл бұрын
@@Stirling_RC_Videos what kind of spektrum charger do you have? did you get that from amazon?
@Stirling_RC_Videos
@Stirling_RC_Videos Жыл бұрын
@@eschannel1091 I did get it on Amazon. It is a Spektrum 150mA Dual Output Charger, $21.
@samnassjoson7573
@samnassjoson7573 Жыл бұрын
How many more FAA and FCC emplyees were added ti run this crazy prigram? TCAS for drones next?
@flat-earther
@flat-earther Жыл бұрын
hi samn, have you become a flat earther yet?
@samnassjoson7573
@samnassjoson7573 Жыл бұрын
@@flat-earther no, never will. How much more taxpayers have to shell out to fund this control freak program? Guess you love to spend other people's money.
@kevinkukla3948
@kevinkukla3948 10 ай бұрын
stop with the flat earth crap.@@flat-earther
@WallyZorro
@WallyZorro Жыл бұрын
Two comments. Holystone announced remote modules will be available on their website mid-September around $50 - $75. As a novice, my question is where is it safe to attach the RID if my beacon light is already attached to the top-rear location of the drone? Does it vary according to the drone manufacturer? Thank you.
@Nate-bd8fg
@Nate-bd8fg Жыл бұрын
lol it released, for $89.99
@ChenJerry888
@ChenJerry888 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video! I think I will go to buy BlueMark DB120 because it is cheaper. Are there any website recommended to buy it? It looks like Amazon and Best Buy do not sell it now. Thank you so much again!
@holtwebb
@holtwebb 10 ай бұрын
Many of these module cases look like they are 3D printed. The fit and finish looks almost homemade. What do you think? Also there are a several far cheaper modules out there that you didn't mention Why? Are they not up to the task? Like the Holy Stone at $89 (which is very popular). Is it not worth it? Thanks for your input. :)
@influentialdrones
@influentialdrones Жыл бұрын
Nice work. Useful info. Well done
@RosaBevington
@RosaBevington Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info! I thought I could buy one module and swap them out but this video and the description cleared that up for me. Glad I found this out now.
@Ace-dh5lz
@Ace-dh5lz 3 ай бұрын
I just registered one drone under "CustomQuad" and just switch the module doubt it will cause any trouble
@jimhatch5873
@jimhatch5873 Жыл бұрын
Great snapshot view of the options here. Thanks for doing the work. It looks like I'll only need one for an older Inspire that DJI couldn't turn the RID on for but my other drones are good to go according to DJI & the FAA list.
@ginamariephotography
@ginamariephotography Жыл бұрын
I revieved an email from aloft that says they have remote id compliance features on their airspace & fleet management platform. Have you heard anything about that? Thanks in advance!
@PilotInstitute
@PilotInstitute Жыл бұрын
Yes but it doesn't mean what you think it means. It's just a way for Aloft customers to keep track of which drone is compliant and which is not.
@Paiadakine
@Paiadakine Жыл бұрын
how do you know where to place these modules on your drone, so you dont screw up your drone antennas?
@PilotInstitute
@PilotInstitute Жыл бұрын
It shouldn't interfere. On top of the drone is a good spot, preferably not on top of the GPS chip.
@0utcast
@0utcast Жыл бұрын
Don't place it on your drone throw it in someone's truck
@christopherconkright1317
@christopherconkright1317 8 ай бұрын
You said 1-4s but if you are using the 5v uart the battery should not matter no?
@PilotInstitute
@PilotInstitute 8 ай бұрын
Careful. 4s is not the same as 5 volts.
@christopherconkright1317
@christopherconkright1317 8 ай бұрын
@@PilotInstitute right let me clarify. If I was using a 6s quad and connected to a 5v regulated uart my battery S rating would not matter?
@theskybutlerllc
@theskybutlerllc Жыл бұрын
Hey Greg, nit-picking a bit maybe, but at 2:45ish you mention using your BVLOS Waiver for some flights. You might want to review that. It's my understanding that only Standard Remote ID drones are allowed when operating under any Waiver, unless a module is specifically called out in the waiver. Appreciate the video though. Ken Bouvier And i do understand that RID is not required yet. Just for future reference is all.
@PilotInstitute
@PilotInstitute Жыл бұрын
That would be for future test after September 16, correct. But this test was totally legal when completed.
@theskybutlerllc
@theskybutlerllc Жыл бұрын
@@PilotInstitute, agreed! I just wanted to make sure you steer clear of trouble. ;)
@travisjaymoore
@travisjaymoore 3 ай бұрын
Where are you based out of? Fun to see you filming in the town I grew up in.
@PilotInstitute
@PilotInstitute 3 ай бұрын
We're in Prescott.
@SlackerU
@SlackerU Жыл бұрын
I had a low battery on my RC but it ensured me that the RemoteID on the Mini 3 was still broadcasting. If they're never going to make a new FPV then I might upgrade to the M30T.
@ivanankrom
@ivanankrom Жыл бұрын
As always, great video! I'll have to wait a little to be compliant. With the price of a module and repair cost for a cracked lens on my mini 2, I'm just going to wait and buy a DJI with standard RID in the near future. Meanwhile, I'll be flying a lot these next couple of weeks and get as much footage as I can before the 16th. My wife won't like it, but I'll tell her to take it up with the FAA. 😆
@DesertAdventuresinArizona
@DesertAdventuresinArizona Жыл бұрын
Thanks Guys - this was very helpful - I ordered the Bluemark DB120 unit today for my Mini 2. I’d rather be compliant for 140 bucks. 👍
@nmfireman
@nmfireman Жыл бұрын
Isn’t a mini below 250 g
@nmfireman
@nmfireman Жыл бұрын
According to the specs, the mini two weighs 242 g with the battery and propellers. That means you don’t have to have remote ID for it.
@garyrsingleton
@garyrsingleton Жыл бұрын
@@nmfiremannot entirely true. He might be using it for business
@Candoman11
@Candoman11 3 ай бұрын
Does the Dji mini 4K have remote I’d? I am a part 107 drone pi.lot
@ronmarvicsin7709
@ronmarvicsin7709 Жыл бұрын
Kinda curious if the prices will come down eventually
@Kevin-ib4gv
@Kevin-ib4gv Жыл бұрын
Why no results for the Spectrum SkyID? At $69.00 coming from a major radio manufacturer this is the only one I'd be interested in buying. Apparently Holy Stone has the HSRID01 Remote ID module for $59.99, and a 70% discount for Holy Stone users coming mid-September. You can forget about $100.00 + Remote ID modules and as the competition heats up, we'll see them for sub $50.00 eventually.
@PilotInstitute
@PilotInstitute Жыл бұрын
The Spektrum was released only a few days before we did this video. We ordered one but haven't received it yet. We mentioned it in the video though. Holy Stone didn't have theirs available on the website and we reached out to them and they basically told us to pound sand.
@Kevin-ib4gv
@Kevin-ib4gv Жыл бұрын
Bad move Holy Stone. You guys are the premier internet provider when it comes to drone related information and if I was Holy Stone, I'd reconsider quickly. But, having said that, I can't wait to see the test results on both the Spektrum and Holy Stone, especially if they are the same unit, just rebranded.@@PilotInstitute
@DroneXL
@DroneXL Жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks for sharing the info!
@flockshot1967
@flockshot1967 Жыл бұрын
Is it true that DJI will have a firmware update for the Phantom V2 by the end of December to make it FAA compliant?
@PilotInstitute
@PilotInstitute Жыл бұрын
This is DJI's release about RID: forum.dji.com/thread-293343-1-1.html
@bwmcelya
@bwmcelya Жыл бұрын
I believe I'll wait at least another six months to buy anything. $30 will be my price limit. 12g max on the weight. Catch me if you can. Thanks for the vid. I'll put a little something extra in your paycheck next month for the overtime. May your winds be light and your sticks tight.
@SW-Video
@SW-Video Жыл бұрын
I'll think about getting a module when they are under $50.
@flat-earther
@flat-earther Жыл бұрын
hi sw-, have you become a flat earther yet?
@SW-Video
@SW-Video Жыл бұрын
@@flat-earther ???? Why would you ask someone that?
@flat-earther
@flat-earther Жыл бұрын
@@SW-Video SW well we were all lied to when we were taught that the earth is a ball flying in a vacuum
@julialu6569
@julialu6569 Жыл бұрын
FYI: For those that have a DJI Air2s, when you update the device registration in FAA Drone Zone, the Remote Serial ID No. is "1581F + 14-digit Serial No. + 0". If your drone's serial no. has 20 digits, then it's the same no.
@jdp1956
@jdp1956 Жыл бұрын
I read in the DJI site that we will have a firmware upgrade no later than 9/30/2023 which will active the internal RID. So, does that mean there is no need to buy an external module ?
@julialu6569
@julialu6569 Жыл бұрын
@@jdp1956 Yes! Im pretty sure the Air2s has an internal RID so no need to buy an external one.
@steveburton2410
@steveburton2410 Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the follow-up at the end of September after the real-world reports start coming in...
@alisneary6058
@alisneary6058 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great info. I'm surprised these things aren't built with aerodynamics in mind in the least bit. I chose my mavic pro years ago because of it's speed. I fly in Maui Hawaii often, have had the wind go from nearly nothing to over 25 MPH in a matter of minutes and have always had success navigating it back with it's ~40MPH capability. It seams like these are housed in hobby craft boxes. I guess this is just another way to make us buy something new which makes all my batteries, spare props and accessories just a useless as my drone. Not to get cranky with you. Thanks again.
@fredweinmann2610
@fredweinmann2610 Жыл бұрын
The FAA is about to release new details about RID, and most likely extend the September 16th date.
@ExtremeAerialProductions
@ExtremeAerialProductions Жыл бұрын
Awesome job as always
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