Which Sci-Fi Faction has the BEST DEFENDED HOMEWORLD? | Sci-Fi Factions Compared

[@EckhartsLadder]

Chirp chirp: twitter.com/eckhartsladder

[@barrybend7189]

EckhartsLadder please do the best transforming fighter: VF-11 thunderbolt from Macross plus vs the Union Flag from Gundam 00 vs Viking from StarCraft vs the Mecha Tengu from Command and Conquer.

[@noahbutler9180]

EckhartsLadder 40k wins they of fantasy equivalent of Alex Rodriguez with more steroids

[@ethanmerrell1575]

Forerunner vs Imperium of man

[@jayburn00]

Scifi intelligence agencies please! 6th attempt

[@ethanmerrell1575]

I agree SciFi intelligence agencies

[@nicoledreamcr4666]

Obi-Wan: That's no moon, it's a battle station. Astra Militarum: No, it is actual Moon.

[@ZZMonkeysUncleZZ]

Can't it be both?

[@ChaserYohmoi]

@@santiagofaiella1255 Hersey we've found a tzeetch follow

[@carbon1255]

It is a biomedical research centre in no way does it develop gene enhancement technology for zero g specialist soldiers.

[@skizzik121]

@sheldon pereira that escalated quickly! Ready plague bombs

[@rednemo9634]

@@skizzik121 brother bring the flamer, the heavy one.... You know what screw this, take the Redeemer pattern Landraider. XD

[@maximrozanov5803]

You forgot the most Important defence in Warhammer 40k's Terra. Faith in the God Emperor

[@Sereze001]

*sad Phalanx noise*

[@giantturtlecat2959]

MAXIM ROZANOV You are Wrong! *Awakened Half-Naked Oiled Up Custodes Intensifies*

[@cainasmo9]

Death to the False Emperor!

[@asuddenredfox3626]

Also the fact that he can crap out warpstorms

[@benhornstein1688]

If we used cloaking tech to get into the Imperial Dungeon, it’s game over there! You throw a couple high grade explosives and GET THE FUCK OUTTA THERE!!!

[@dapperchap572]

>40k >Terra That's HOLY Terra to you!

[@yeetosyeeterofyeet1825]

HERESY! DO NOT TARNISH THE NAME OF HOLY TERRA

[@whoareyouyouareclearlylost323]

As The Emporium Adviser. I will snitch on you!

[@travisbeastwood7712]

Cadia Stands! Virgin Marines vs. Chad Imperial Soldier. The Planet broke before the guard did!

[@yeetosyeeterofyeet1825]

Travis Beastwood Not heretical, but the Astartes are of higher rank, Guard.

[@randomblacktemplar738]

@@yeetosyeeterofyeet1825 except for Marine malevolent

[@R.E.D.A.C.T.E.D.]

Sees 40k *LAUGHS IN HIGH GOTHIC*

[@xXAkitokunXx]

Laughs in Heresy

[@dollarsignmexican]

@@xXAkitokunXx hail lord Fulgrim

[@ethan5354]

Every other faction: *normal looking ships* Imperial Fleet: *FLYING CHURCH*

[@Deridus]

@@ethan5354 That's Holy Flying Church, you heretic!

[@panzerfaust6172]

*LAUGHS IN HIGH GOTHIC HARDER*

[@Self-replicating_whatnot]

"Orbital plate" is a continent-sized orbital station. Because 40k

[@paladin_leeroy3760]

God

[@sicklethebastard6450]

Paladin Leeroy I'm sure you meant to say The Holy Emperor, Guardian of Mankind!

[@paladin_leeroy3760]

@@sicklethebastard6450 of course

[@nikpapado9785]

@@paladin_leeroy3760 We should purge you, just to make sure. After all, the emperor will know his own.

[@paladin_leeroy3760]

@@nikpapado9785 no, i follow the emperor, please spare me

[@zettour.]

Looks at title. Me: Interesting Sees WH40k. *THE EMPEROR PROTECTS*

[@yeetosyeeterofyeet1825]

PURGE THE HERETICS BROTHER

[@Chuy861]

Didn't he mispronounce adeptus astartes

[@thehungryhorntail5730]

FOR THE EMPEROR!

[@scribe620]

FOR SANGUINIUS, FOR THE EMPEROR!!!!!!

[@Jbay2608]

But a loaded bolter never hurt either.

[@dommydench4693]

Forgot to mention Mars in 40K is insanely protected as well being The Homeworld of The Adeptus Mechanicus and it's right next to Terra.

[@treisenadams9036]

You're mostly right, but you forgot orbit. It will spend a lot of time on the other side of the sun.

[@dommydench4693]

@@treisenadams9036 In terms of Galactic travel. Solar System doesn't mean jack shit.

[@dommydench4693]

@@treisenadams9036 If one gets attacked. The other Super Power is right there to jump itself in QUICK.

[@contremarfia3253]

Mars isn't the homeworld

[@dommydench4693]

@@contremarfia3253 I know that. But taking into account overall defense Terra is neighbor to another crazy powerul planet that's an Ally.

[@I_dunno_yet]

Nobody: The imperium: **Weaponises the moon of their home world**

[@yourdoom9868]

Its earth

[@akujirule8441]

@@yourdoom9868 it is Holly Terra, you heretic!

[@justpazzingby13]

The moon.. the asteroid belt..

[@the_dropbear4392]

Nobody: The imperium: *Creates continent sized orbital battle stations with planet ending gravity canons*

[@cainasmo9]

The Solar system is surrounded in mines (ort cloud) then you have to compete with orbital platforms around EACH GAS PLANET - to which houses industrial ship yards. Then the Asteroid feild is immersed with free floating mines and well hidden defence platforms. Then you have Mars....(another world power in itself) from ship yards to ammunition facilities, you are looking down at the one planet that fuels the leading interest of all materials for war in the galaxy. Then you traverse to "Holy" Terra (which is earth 40k in the future) defended by multiple continent sized weapon platforms, orbital stations, legions upon legions of ships in orbit and its moon weaponized to the brim...... Not to mention the imperial palace positioned on top of mt everest.

[@TacynMegan]

I like how Holy Terra being the most defended planet in the entire WH40k galaxy is just “kinda safe” That says a lot of how batshit insane WH40k is

[@_Muzolf]

Orks are known to just show up on your doorstep with a moon sized ship. And that is before mentioning things like chaos who can just pop up from the warp.

[@Mugthraka]

In 40k Planets gets blowned up , and thats just monday...

[@havoc1768]

Kinda safe, (other planets)= EXTERMINATUS

[@EvidensInsania]

@@_Muzolf The Tyranids mean everyone in 40K is screwed, they just don't realise it. The countless Tyranid hordes that have been seen in the 40K galaxy are merely the tip of a hive mind that has already consumed entire other galaxies and spread between them. There is simply no fighting against such numbers.

[@aerialgod01]

@@EvidensInsania Necrons: "Hold my warp killer planet"

[@SultanOfAwesomeness]

>sees thumbnail "is this really even a contest?"

[@mikea2363]

"its 40k. Its always 40k"

[@FuelDropforthewin]

I can think of a couple of catagories where 40k loses handily. Quality of life for the average citizen. Education level. Cohesiveness of purpose (co-operation between different sections of the military), sanity.

[@FuelDropforthewin]

Hey! We like our rations made from reconstituted corpses, thank you very much! It takes our minds off our 120 hour work week!

[@mattfreg2771]

Bookhead714 spaceships in 40k are glorious. Except for the eldar. The eldar have awful ships

[@beasty108]

Sultan 40k loses in a LOT of areas and to A LOT of different factions. Normie level sci-fi fans wouldn't know that though

[@topside1246]

>see thumbnail >it includes 40k Yeah, was there ever any doubt? 40k is the definition of over-the-top and utterly ridiculous amounts of firepower.

[@Garith000]

MORE DAKKA!

[@PremierRomanov]

DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA

[@richardhigman3916]

Actually 40k is not ridiculous for the time period, infact, its firepower and fleets are incredibly underwhelming for a galaxy spanning empire of billions of world that has existed for 40,000 years.

[@dalekcaan8495]

It is nothing compared to my imagination

[@bolo4104]

The Concordiat Navy is the only sci-fi military I've seen that comes close to WH40k in terms of over the top military power.

[@Mobius_118]

"That's no moon, it's a space station." WH40K: *WE LITERALLY HAVE A WEAPONIZED MOON!*

[@praise_kek340]

NECRONS: We have WORLD ENGINES

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

The Beast: HAHAHA U PATHETIC 'UMIES!! WE HAZ DA BIGGEZT ORKIEZT FUKIN' MOONZ SHIPZ!! DAT'S RITE!! MORE TH'N ONE!!

[@guardianofthetoasters2323]

@@DonVigaDeFierro TOASTERS!!!!!!

[@guardianofthetoasters2323]

@Anthony Ferguson *Laughs in slanesh* PARDON ME GOODSIR BUT U SEEM FUCKED

[@sanguineregis5354]

Several weaponized moons.

[@TheIvoryGaurdian]

A reasonable conclusion. Having 4 space Satans constantly attempting to force their way into your home simultaneously would make one understandably defensive.

[@its_ya_gurl_ames_old6068]

Don't forget those green skinned jahovas witnesses

[@midshipman8654]

Ivory Strongbox Films I think it’s also important to note that pretty much every single common person on terra is an extreme zealot even more so than usual in the empire of man since the plant itself is considered holy territory. Even if somehow an invasion actually got on surface, every man woman and child would throw themselves on the invaders in a holy raving mob of mass murder and death.

[@hitzncritzmobilegaming9988]

What's a space satan?

[@Urielv59]

@@hitzncritzmobilegaming9988 that would be the four chaos gods in 40k

[@hitzncritzmobilegaming9988]

I dont know much about 40k so thanks.

[@darkfishthedestroyer139]

EckhartsLadder: we need this to be a fair compa... WarHammer 40k: no, I dont think i will

[@leustragaming4386]

Heres a bolter, your opinion is invalid.

[@ShadyOakMinistries]

Corusaunt: a planet sized city that takes military defense into consideration along with an armed populace and a massive navy across the board. Old republic to Legends, a bastion from the sky, and a tough fight on the ground. Especially with the Jedi in account. The Citadel: An automated and nearly indestructible shell meant to buy time for their navy to send elite soldiers to counter forces dumb enough to try to crack that shell. Earth: A very well equipped and powerful military staging ground that has an orbital defense system that makes the Covenant and Flood both very nervous. Terra: if there isn't a shrine to something, there's an Earth shattering weapon or warrior pointed right at your face. With a legion of warriors that could take Thanos on daily running drills trying to subvert and infiltrate their own defenses and failing, a numberless fleet of literal death stars and have to pass through literal hell just to pick up their mail in the morning regarding military experience, and orbital stations the size of continents armed with weapons that could force a star to supernova if they wanted to all GUARDING an entity who can create Galaxy sized vortexes of annihilation. Not to mention the trillions of soldiers and pilgrims, armed with weapons that would make a star wars fan cry, ready to die than see Terra fall. And that was at their lowest point and needed reinforcements during the second siege in Carrion Throne. If you want to hear it in its prime during the Horus Heresy...

[@brichouse2117]

Which Thanos? I am assuming MCU since comic Thanos can destroy planets with psychic powers, survive supernovas and black holes, not to mention reality-warping to insane degrees...last time I checked the lore only The God-Emperor, and maybe one primarch could survive that degree of destruction. Unless I forgot which implant allows basic marines to literally fight C'tan?

[@BruhMoment-re8nc]

@@brichouse2117 i think even most comic versions of thanos would have a pretty hard time considering the 10,000 custodes, city sized guns on continent sized platforms, the weaponized moon, and the weaponized solar system, unless gauntlet but thats kinda cheating

[@brichouse2117]

@@BruhMoment-re8nc My bad I thought we were talking one on one Thanos vs a single Ultramarine. I can actually see how thousands upon thousands of these dudes can stop almost anything 👍 Still some would be surprised at how many sci-fi armies could still break through and take *all holy Terra*

[@nftplay]

Bric House Have you met a certain untra smurf 2nd Captain by the name of Canto socurious

[@brichouse2117]

@@nftplay I guess not...I would love for you to tell me about him. Do you really think he could turn the tides so drastically?

[@robertboss2581]

Who else came to see the second place spot?

[@raver377]

not me, i just came here to make sure there was no warp fuckery going on with the first place tbh

[@lootgoblin8705]

I was coming to check that there is no heresy

[@SilentHotdog28]

@@lootgoblin8705 It's ok inquistor, there is no Heresy here sir. For the Greater Good!!!.......I- I mean For the Emperor!!!!! Sir!!!!"

[@lootgoblin8705]

SilentHotdog28 it’s fine. (I play tau) ;)

[@Kaiserfaust265]

@@lootgoblin8705 HERESY

[@rochae0343]

Sittin here waitin for 40k like “lets see how ridiculous this it” Edit: it was ridiculous

[@Mugthraka]

And thats just start of it...

[@startdale5547]

In the grim dark of the future there is only war... Glorious ridiculous war.

[@PrimarchKyrosFenrir]

But that's the whole point of 40K something completely op comes along and then it's instantly bashed into submission by something else Such as the god emperor of man yes for all he is in a coma right now the only things that could really harm the emperor was either himself and his primarchs or the chaos god's if they could ever leave the warp which thank the emperor they can't and as for a single space marine (Astartes) in the books they could be in no armour have no weapons and could at the very least kill off half a planet of chaos cultist and that's just the ones before primaris. And the god emperor of man.

[@EvidensInsania]

@@PrimarchKyrosFenrir I really don't think even the Primarchs could stand a chance against the God Emperor (pre-coma). Horus was successful because he was juiced up on Chaos energy and the Emperor was holding back during their fight out of love for his son, until of course becoming wounded and completely obliterating every atom of Horus' being.

[@PrimarchKyrosFenrir]

@@EvidensInsania true true but also it would have never happened if the emperor hadn't of treated his sons so badly

[@fieldpigeongaming239]

I know I’m very late but I believe the saying “if everything is overpowered then nothing is overpowered.” Fits 40k quite well.

[@williamwhitehouse8741]

Yeah.but the imperium is still losing....even with the sheer bullshit amount of power at their disposal

[@EarFarce4]

@@williamwhitehouse8741 1) The Imperium is a massive target. 2)It's being attacked from all sides including from within. 3)It's a futuristic civilisation in decay.If you think their levels of power are currently bullshit you'd be surprised at what they had 10k to 20k years before the current era.Hell, if Chaos didn't exist they'd be nearly unbeatable.

[@MrFallenone]

@@EarFarce4 They are unbeatable. By any single force. Even fighting on all fronts they are still holding their own. Communication is the biggest problem the Imperium has.

[@EarFarce4]

@@MrFallenone They are not unbeatable especially by Chaos.Horus Heresy ring a bell? What about the World Engine? The war of the Beast? Travel, communications,technological decay are it's main problems.Not to mention the galaxy wide warp rift.

[@NeiasaurusCreations]

@@EarFarce4 Except the imperium won all of those. Because even taking a few worlds is completely irrelevant as the imperium controls millions upon millions upon millions more. You simply can't win out, the numbers aren't on your side. And the only force capable of that was literally half of the 30k imperium, and even then, that failed and the losses to those forces were so great they had to abandon the normal galaxy and flee into the anus in the sky. The beast was beaten, world engines beaten. The simple fact is the imperium will grind on because it simply isn't possible to actually grind them into dust. Horus didn't even take the entire galaxy before attacking tera, he hit a few places, lost in many mores, and even with him manipulating things and positioning groups like ultramarines in distant areas, still had to make a dash for tera, and LOST. Which is the crucial bit, all of those threats were overcome.

[@Wintershot]

I'm just going to leave this here. "To be a man in such times is to be one amongst untold billions. It is to live in the cruelest and most bloody regime imaginable. These are the tales of those times. Forget the power of technology and science, for so much has been forgotten, never to be re-learned. Forget the promise of progress and understanding, for in the grim dark future there is only war. There is no peace amongst the stars, only an eternity of carnage and slaughter, and the laughter of thirsting gods." - standard intro to every WH40K novel.

[@Tadraeve]

Also written as the first line in the rule book.

[@spiffygonzales5899]

Star wars is better

[@al-kazaz9032]

@@Tadraeve its in every 40k book

[@terrorsanity]

@@spiffygonzales5899 star wars is cool until you hit 20s

[@midgetydeath]

"But the universe is a big place and, whatever happens, you will not be missed..."

[@Silverized84]

yeah, but 40k imperial palace has half naked oiled custodes. And kitten

[@hollow8575]

Truly an (im)penetrable defense [ ¬ ‿ ¬ ]

[@xtracool12]

And a bunch of priests who can throw shit at invading inquisitors

[@kerbe3]

Do not forget Lord Adornable.

[@Sereze001]

You forgot Mangny Magic.

[@giantturtlecat2959]

Silverized84 We can also summon Kaldor Draigo And we have the God-Emperor on his throne literally Warp-Fisting people And don’t forget the Sisters of Silence, Grey Knights, and yes, the 10,000 Custodes including the Companions and the Captain-General Also PDF and probably a bunch of Officio Assassinorium’s Assassins AND their Lord

[@Jooru27]

"The fact there is a planet in Warhammer which is basically sort of safe" Custodes: "Hey uh, I know we're kinda past it now but, should we have mentioned how the beast held Terra at gunpoint with a weaponised moon?" Sheild captain: " No. Nooooo nonononononono. No"

[@RukaGoldheart]

It should be noted that it was in the early days of the fall of the Emperor, when the imperium was at it's weakest

[@leustragaming4386]

"WHAT DID I JUST SAY!!!! NO!"

[@rustkarl]

Or the time the Harlequins went for a stroll and scared the shit out of everyone before the golden boys put them down. Or the time 8 legions of Khorne skipped past the defences and laid siege to Terra for the first time in 6 thousand years. With only the Imperial Palace remaining the only bastion not influenced by the tide of the warp.

[@The_blessed_dead]

We don't talk about that

[@colonelarrow8031]

@Rustymcnut Yes Inquisitor, this comment right here

[@Bublito]

Star Wars At-At - 40k Imperator Titan princeps: Oh look at this cute little camel. Death Star - Imperial Fist Phalanx Captain: Sir, I found the fueling station, it's a small planetoid.

[@DekwaDoes]

"huh... that's no planet, it's a space station! how cute" makes you wonder how well the Phalanx would fare against the Death Stars super laser. "SIR, They're firing!" *queue unrealistic mega Whap of laser as there is no sound in space* *PLINK* oh, my bad, it was just a prank with a laser pointer...

[@erebusvonmori8050]

@Snickering Ginger I'd say it's fair to say the DS main laser would be able to take out anything in the Imperial fleet. Problem is that with the reload time it's only going to get off a single shot before it's blown to atoms by the rest of whatever fleet they sent. Not really a good return on investment.

[@datsuchti7729]

@@erebusvonmori8050 tbh im not so sure about that considering the strength of some void shields....

[@shiphappens8491]

"thats no moon, thats a space station" 40k peeps: "looks like meat's back on the menu boys" >please dont kill me 40k fans I know literally nothing about 40k other then 2 hours of yt videos...

[@savage7882]

Lol the death star is bigger than the phalanx -Imperial fists enthusiast. Dont even try to debate me on this one.

[@spacewolfblackmane19]

40k will generally rank pretty high up until you ask the question about quality of life, then you will find 40k VERY low on that list

[@edoardoluppi6455]

Jaden Harrod not if you talk about the T'au :D

[@inqusitorlime9551]

if you want some good living in 40k i chose wrolds of ultramar

[@AximandTheCursed]

Your quality of life in 40k is usually dependant on how important you are to the Imperium. Inquisitors (the successful ones) live in mansions with flocks of servants in some serious opulence, planetary governors get some nice palaces, and High Lords live like Kings and Queens, but they have to work for it! The average citizen, on the other hand... and you do not know true squalor until you live on an agri-world as a 'twist' labourer.

[@Seraphinus112]

Quality of life is a good comparison.

[@tacticalgaming4765]

Depens. In these pools yes but when put against ancient Halo, Xeele and the culture.. 40k cant even join that competition.

[@brettharrison8478]

Rogal Dorn: *laughs in fortification*

[@LumenP1023]

FORTIFYFORTIFYFORTIFYFORTIFYFORTIFYFORTIFYFORTIFY

[@Darkrunn]

TTS Dorn: It is not possible to exhibit amusement by making a position more defencible. However, the thought of fortifying this position does cause me amusement.

[@CarAccelerationChannel]

this had me laughing out loud for real lol

[@matthewvillarde5601]

Dorn is the embodiment of the term "Immovable Object"

[@sorufa888]

Lumen SIEGESIEGESIEGESIEGESIEGESIEGESIEGESIEGESIEGESIEGESIEGESIEGE

[@michaelgimenez4032]

"In the WH40k there is a planet that is sort of safe" Safe? I m pretty sure that word was purged from Imperial records and its definition is a running gag at this point.

[@edim108]

40k, a.k.a. "It can always get worse" the Universe.

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

Nah, the 40K milky way has some peaceful, boring places that never get mentioned. But when they do, hohoho, boy. Shit gets fucked pretty fast, and pretty literally if it involves Slaneesh.

[@rogerrabbit8331]

Ciaphas Cain has spent nearly 12 books at this point trying to find it... Hasn't succeeded once.

[@PhoebusApollo360]

I tried putting them all in 40k, halo and mass effect died immediately, and the only threat to star wars was the tyrranids, all that was left were shells.

[@rafaeltiburcio6624]

Cathachan is safe against invaders And even against its inhabitants

[@OverlordMagos]

I like how Holy Terra is number 1, yet has been under siege and attack so many times, like during the Horus Heresy, or that time the Orks sent a weaponized moon, or when Khorne decided to spawn a daemon legion at the gates of the Imperial Palace. Because no matter how batshit insane a faction is in 40K, other factions also are batshit insane in order to cancel eachother.

[@JustAnotherAwesomeGuy]

*If everyone is OP no one is OP". -someone in warhammer Probably

[@sjanahi7456]

Still though Holy Terra has Battlefleet Solar. Literarlly the biggest and most powerful Naval fleet in all Sci Fi universe combat fleets combined. Nothing even comes close and thats just 1 of the major 5 battlefleets of the God Emperor's Imperial Navy.

[@tyranidswarmlord9722]

@@sjanahi7456 Necron Fleets in general: ?

[@sjanahi7456]

@@tyranidswarmlord9722 Blasphemy... Reported to the office of the holy inquisition.

[@starman_3393]

it is estimated that Battlefleet Solar contains arraund 150 ships while at the battle of coursant coursant's defence fleet contained thousands of ships while most of it was fighting in the outer rim sieges. (i steel think that ursa is better defended than coursant)

[@1chaplain]

.. But earth in other universes aren't covered in gold. "Anything not covered in gold is automatically inferior" - Big E

[@guardianofthetoasters2323]

In silver its a 1st place for losers

[@guardianofthetoasters2323]

... Ok seriously tho terra aint golden hot shit well sure he has the palace but not the entire planet

[@1chaplain]

@@guardianofthetoasters2323 yeah, but he got a palace made out of gold. According to wiki, it covers around 150k km^2 Still cooler that other home worlds from other franchises

[@guardianofthetoasters2323]

@@1chaplain...... But no..... THE TOASTER IS BETTER THAN THE PALACE

[@agbottan]

Conclusion: The Emperor protects.

[@evanhaskel206]

André Gustavo Bottan well, you would be assaulting a fortress that apparently spans the continent of Asia. One that’s presumably bristling with weapon turrets, not to mention the Sisters of Silence, and Custodians, and the Legions of the Mechanicus weren’t far away.

[@agbottan]

@@evanhaskel206, Darth Vader can't choke the Sisters, because they are imune to psychic influence. Hum... the Force is not pychic... it's a pysical force indeed. I let this discussion to the specialists.

[@evanhaskel206]

André Gustavo Bottan maybe not, but I’d be curious to see just how strong Imperial armor is against a lightsaber.

[@evanhaskel206]

Also, to get to the continent-sized fortress, you’d have to fight your way through multiple fleets and defensive structures that form a grid spanning the entire solar system. Plus, several Space Marine chapters use Terra as an occasional base. Bottom line: only the brave and/or foolish would attempt to invade Terra.

[@agbottan]

@@evanhaskel206, I think that the lightsaber would cut the armor, but the jedi would have to push hard. Like cutting wood with a saw.

[@kingnaga619]

Holy Terra stands above all. Was the epicenter of the Horus Heresy and stood against the amassed forces of half the Imperium trying to destroy it. The walls of the Imperial Palace were breached only because the Adeptus Custodes killed SO MANY SPACE MARINES that they formed a corpse ramp.

[@tristany.8901]

Corpse ramp, for the ramp god! *dorn stirs somewhere

[@Chegs2071]

The wall was breached by an imperator class titan named Dies Irae, otherwise known as death's head

[@valhalanguardsman2588]

@@Chegs2071 oh that guy who have shot down the ship with top reporter from terra?

[@alexvincent7248]

@@Chegs2071 Dies Irae means days of wrath. It was part of the Legio Mortis titan legion, otherwise known as the death's head.

[@theodorethompson4536]

Didn't horus crash a Blackstone fortress into holy terra?

[@postwar142]

life in 40K, also known as a Viking warriors wet dream, makes Valhalla look like Burning Man: Education: war Politics: war Science: war Economy: war Industry: war Entertainment: war Future: war Warhammer/40K is the most brutal universe I've ever seen and if you find yourself questioning this or other things in superiority, do some real research, you wont be disappointed.

[@rayanderson5797]

Even their tech nerds will kill you with giant axes.

[@davidnguyen5183]

Tell that to the cthullu mythos and the scp universe

[@tharnstonewall2005]

@@davidnguyen5183 But we're talking about space shit. And if the SCP org. Can secure 682 im sure the imperium can.

[@adamz.3654]

@@davidnguyen5183As long as I love SCP mythos, I would admit that SCP universe is not as brutal as 40k. Seriously at least they have some real intellectual shits and not everyone is dying in vein. Life in foundation and other GOIs actually have purposes, unlike 40k ppl and xenos just keep dying for no reason at all.

[@davidnguyen5183]

@@adamz.3654 true unless, you screw up something or you'll meet SCPs that are not yet in the Foundation yet and those SCPs aren't friendly. Then you will be dying in vein. And also there are at least 30 SCPs that can delete reality so that's also that.

[@Autechltd]

Since you said "HOMEWORLD" and not the entire system you have to consider that 1). Terra's sub-lunar space is so crowded with capital ships orbiting it, that you can practically hopscotch your way from Terra to the moon. So much so that the combined mass of the ships crowding the area have their own gravity field due to the sheer mass of them concentrated around one spot. 2). There are also numerous orbiting space defense platforms the size of the mother-ship in Independence Day Resurgence orbiting Terra (described as the size of entire continents) studded with "gape-maw'ed graviton world enders" each the size of mount Everest, and each described as powerful enough to vaporise entire 40k battlefleets in a single blast. 3). Abaddon spent many years thinking of a way to break through Terra (and he has thousands of years to contemplate this) and in his mind it cannot be done. Even if Terra was the last planet left in the Imperium, it just cannot be overpowered. Abaddon's current plan is to spread the warp over Terra instead to fight bullshit with more bullshit.

[@azazaz4627]

"To fight bullshit with more bullshit." Yes.

[@ahzekahriman5840]

accurate

[@pimpsterrrrr]

That is some funny bullshit.

[@jacksbob8746]

azazaz4627 pretty much 40k tactics.

[@thathandsomedevil0828]

The bullshit bit killed me ded, well said! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@LegendaryCollektor]

Every top comment is about how amazing 40k is. This pleases me. The Emperor Protects

[@SilentHotdog28]

For the Greater Good!!!!!

[@viacrucishector1821]

SilentHotdog28 *THE GREATER GOOD IS COMING TO YOU FROM MY BOLTER GUN*

[@SilentHotdog28]

@@viacrucishector1821 I'm not concerned, you seem to be having quite the logistics nightmare at the moment, not to mention a rampant WAAAAAGGGHHHH!!!!! and some Tyranid fleets running about.......Let's not forget about Chaos and their shenanigans, I think I'm the least of your problems. While you're dealing with all of those issues, I'm just going to go for a joy ride into Imperial space and see what worlds I can convert to the Greater Good. hey, I may even give the Imperium a hand here and there.

[@justinrolfe9134]

First half had me ready to contact the inquisition for heresy, but your faith in the emperor is pleasing.

[@LegendaryCollektor]

@@SilentHotdog28 weare doing just fine lol

[@crackedjabber]

I love that description of Terra. 'Almost sort of safe.' That needs to go on the travel brochures.

[@carlost856]

crackedjabber except it's not, for the pilgrims and residents it's a hellish place.

[@Mikazuchireborn]

That's the beauty part. Even if invaders fly down and start bombing the cities into nothing but polluted ruins, you can look at the place and say "It looks exactly the same as always."

[@bogdanlandzhev4870]

That speaks more of the 40k universe in general, not Terra's defenses.

[@soldiert0144]

COME TO TERRA FOR YOUR NEXT HOLIDAY ITS BASICALLY ALMOST SORT OF SAFE!

[@valhalanguardsman2588]

@@soldiert0144 exept while you waiting to get there 1-3 generation will pass

[@sicarius6501]

You shoulda make one about which homeworld has been most deeply penetrated So atleast 40k can give others a chance

[@Deridus]

Literally knocking on the doors of the Imperial Sanctum... I guess that's fair.

[@Genisis343]

Ahaha

[@andrewkenney7792]

🤣🤣🤣 very true.

[@the_astrokhan]

@@Deridus To be frank, it was half a galaxy knocking...With tens of thousands of space mountains.

[@Deridus]

@@the_astrokhan Well... okay, fine.

[@WingsaberE3]

I love how in just skim reading about Terra’s defenses is that the moon is “weaponized” that’s it. The MOON is weaponized I love it

[@condotiero860]

What do mean the moon is weaponized? We have macrocannons, torpedoes, lances, bunkers built on top of bunkers for thousands of years, hive cities, void shields, fortress monasteries, hundreds of 'little' platforms with enough firepower to break a ship in half, armies of the deadliest mofos in the segmentum clad in power armor... and a fleet dedicated to its protection. And that's just Luna, there is also Terra and Mars... Why even? As a shipyard and due to its proximity to Terra, oh and somebody got in before, we are super paranoid. Wait wat?

[@ultramarinescaptain3840]

Not a single other word, just it is WEAPONIZED and that's that. Not what's one there, or how many guns, just it is the weapon.

[@leustragaming4386]

Remember that the defence system reaches out to the outer rim of our solar system... and Mars is so damn fortified, because it's home to adeptus Mechanicus

[@501ststormtrooper9]

@@condotiero860 There’s also the Phalanx, correct?

[@nazismomsrhos]

TEREICA

[@deanprowell7947]

Keep in mind that the Mechanicus turned Mars into a gun, but didn't want to fire it during the Beast's invasion of Terra because they were concerned they'd do more damage to the planet.

[@vali6717]

‘Best defended’ with a planet that the Imperial Firsts have had ten thousand years to dig in? Gee, I wonder which one will win?

[@HyperK7]

Lol, Imperial firsts. While hilarious, Dark Angels was first. Bit of a typo there.

[@johnm.9783]

@@HyperK7 I'm pretty sure he didn't say they were first

[@GenSphinx]

@@HyperK7 yeah but they are traitors so doesn't count anymore.

[@wesleyw7908]

@@GenSphinx What do you mean, I see no traitors here??? _hides fallen under a blanket_

[@TricksterPoi]

*Did someone say traitors?*

[@mateuszborkowski22]

it obviously is the holiest planet out of all the holy planets in the holiest empire in existence. The Holy Mudball itself.

[@dianavespid937]

DOOMRIDER that piece of shit Terra only protected because of the rotten corpse

[@alekjanowski9847]

FUCKING HERETICS! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

[@mateuszborkowski22]

You mean the glorious old man on his golden chair

[@Loregamorl]

DOOMRIDER his porta-potty lighthouse

[@mateuszborkowski22]

surrounded by his Banana Guard

[@corporategunner5972]

Me when I see thumbnail: "The republic has to have the best base." *Realizes WH40K is in list* Me: "Well we know who is gonna win anyway."

[@alphariusfuze8089]

*Yes brother*

[@John2r1]

Uh duh and he used Legends for Star Wars. 40k still won. Then he uses the end of the war for halo and just what you see in the cut scenes. Doesn't even bother reading the books or even using common sense as Reach was the second or even third most heavily defended planet in the UNSC. Behind Earth aka Halos Terra and Mars. Which post war is home to the Spartan Branch. He only uses the end of the war like the UNSC didn't build any ships post war. And didn't have an Air Force or AA guns , missile launchers ground based MACs capable of taking down a ship in orbit or missile silos of the nuclear kind aimed at space. Then puts Mass Effect which has capital ships the size of a small UNSC frigate above Earth's defenses ?. Yeah lack of knowledge there. But 40k still wins here. So I can't be too mad.

[@scottgrindrod]

It's hard to compete with a civilization built solely around warfare. For like 10,000 years. We're talking about a society that kills like a 1000 people *per day* to keep the Emperor alive.

[@John2r1]

@@scottgrindrod First part is true. But there is one way to be competitive even against the Imperium which is technology. The UNSC now makes use of Ancient Forerunner tech which is basically like if the Imperium could reverse engineer Necron tech. The Galactic Empire also is a very advanced civilization. Though it's not exactly geared towards all out warfare unlike the Imperium and the UNSC which really hasn't been all that peaceful. If you think about it the UNSC armed forces are basically the US military in space. And as you probably know the US has been at war for a total of 93% of its 243 years history. I highly doubt that is going to change over the next 500 years. Chances are UNSC/UEG history goes ww1,ww2, Korean war, Vietnam, Iraq wars , Afghanistan war, etc , Resource wars , Mars wars , Inter planetary wars , Insurrection War 1 , Human Covenant War, Insurrection war 2, Booding years war aka Sangheili civil war intervention, Wars against Splinter Covenant groups, the Created War. Basically around 700 ish years of near constant wars for whatever reason. The Imperium knows all too well that Humans have been killing each other for thousands of years since the first caveman smashed another's skull in with a rock. And they know which side of the rock they rather be on. What I find funny in this video is that Eck choose to use the UNSC at its weakest point rather than post war. In both cases it took overwhelming force just to land on earth and still the ground was contested. And the Covenant never achieved space/ air superiority. Because even after they broke through more UNSC ships arrived from fleets they had bypassed to get to Earth. As to the Emperor 1000 Psykers is an arbitrary number. It likely takes more than that per day. And his life support is failing. And the Tech priest don't know how to fix it. Mostly because the Imperium the great Imperium that the Emperor once ruled that was a great home to talented artisans and brilliant scientists is now a superstition shell of what it was. 10,000 years of religious dogma has actually destroyed the once proud Imperium of Mankind.

[@kindledninja]

@@scottgrindrod 400000 people die every day on our planet in the real world.

[@Lightscribe225]

"What faction has the best-" "Warhammer" "But I didn't finish listing all the fac-" *"DID I STUTTER?"*

[@ciCCapROSTi]

It would make sense if they weren't compared to other wimpy universes.

[@SilentHotdog28]

@@ciCCapROSTi Now I love both 40k and Halo universes, so I like various aspects of both and in most cases 40k flogs the Halo Universe, SM vs Spartans....SM would probably get the win 8/10 times if not better, Covenant vs Tau, Tau would probably win 7/10 times. If we looked at say Nids vs Flood, everyone thinks the flood would get stomped......but a lot of people are arguing for the Flood from the Halo games, which nearly went extinct and were in a very weakened state due to barely any food and any time they break away, they are either outright contained or have had to use their small existing resources to prevent another extinction event. (Stupid Prophets) anyway........If we were to look at Pre-Halo Detonation Flood, then that is a vastly different ball game, we are talking, Key Minds, Star Roads, Logic Plagues. The Flood only need to throw some infection forms into the Nids spawning pools and they would then corrupt the entire genepool of that Nid Hive as the Flood can infect Space itself, they can infect any Biomass or any Organic life, the Nids would be assimilated into the Flood and they would create one big super Hybrid Hive with the technology of the Precursors and any knowledge of tech they receive from the Tyranids would also be intergrated as well as the nids armour and bio weapons.

[@alexisbaz8746]

@@SilentHotdog28 for me Star Roads are the deadliest thing, those things can turn entire solar systems into space dust, rip apart planets, stars and are immune to any conventional weapon, planet buster would be useless, those things would just rip any ship apart and then the Keymind will assimilate other planets in minutes and then they will jump to another system en just a few minutes...

[@SilentHotdog28]

@@alexisbaz8746 yep, then bye bye galaxy.

[@guy_autordie]

@@alexisbaz8746 you're describing a C'tan. They eat supernovas. And the necrons have dealt them. Necron: Robotic humanoïd lifeform, haters of life, equivalent of the classic Undead. Also, they can stand up and resume the fight after being destroy to pieces. Thanks necron kind-of-living* metal! *not really like the terminator 2 one.

[@Pemmont107]

I'm a huge 40K fan, but I must ask: Why bother having the Imperium in any of these comparative videos? They're almost always leagues ahead of everyone else, and so are almost always going to come first. It's like taking Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania and then pitting them against Russia - it's just not going to happen. Edit: This isn't having a go at the rest of your video content - I do enjoy watching it! And it is really well done. It's just wouldn't it be more fun/less predictable without 40k involved as much for the above reason?

[@itsyaboidaniel2919]

Fan service Because why not Something even more Op than Halo which bias cannot make something in Halo automatically better than something in WH40k Reasons fam

[@myduckisonqauck7227]

Pommit 40k is op but not op beyond comparison. Imperium: US Galactic empire : Russia Halo: India Systems alliance: United kingdoma

[@ExternalDialogue]

Yeah, unless he does something where they are comparable like guardsmen vs UNSC marines or Orkz vs krogans or something where it's fair,

[@Stingra87]

Because he wants views. Anything with 40k always draws in people. He claimed in yesterday's video that he thinks it's fine to compare them and that it should be 'fun' to see who comes in at the other rankings. To me, that's like EA saying we should "Feel a sense of pride and accomplishment". It's just bad video making.

[@puffstanley4442]

I see no problem with him exploring and explaining 40k to others

[@zesky_cult]

The Answer is always 40K....The Emperor Protects

[@justanobadi6655]

The planet broke before the guard did

[@kek105]

Praise the emperor for he is the salvation of mankind

[@SilentHotdog28]

I can't wait for the Corpse to die, I want to see if he becomes a god or he just dies like every other human. If he just dies, then the Imperium of Man will fall.

[@asfm2]

* Competition video where the Imperium is a contestant * *GEE I WONDER WHO COULD WIN*

[@Marco48375]

Without watching: 40k. Always 40k. There is no further over the top.

[@grandadmiralthrawn8116]

40k is FAR from the most powerful universe, if you're just talking si-fi then maby

[@spicy9840]

@@grandadmiralthrawn8116 what are these more powerful universes? I'm geniuinly interested

[@grandadmiralthrawn8116]

@@spicy9840 marvel, dc, dragon ball, god of war, Ben ten, and more. 40k isn't special

[@guardianofthetoasters2323]

@@grandadmiralthrawn8116 but in terms like.... Ya know humans and xenos type not the anime op shit or the superheroes is there any universed in Technology speaking better and advanced in 40k? If u do have one let me know kinda intrested how op it really is

[@grandadmiralthrawn8116]

@@guardianofthetoasters2323 hmmm the only one I can think of on top of my head would be halo. Not modern halo of course I mean ancient halo with the forerunners.

[@Dknightxs]

Before i even clicked on the video i knew terra would be on top. The fact that the imperium has turned the moon into a weapons platform gives you a rough idea, also the imperial palace.... its where the emperor... the most powerful human to ever exist sits on his goldenthrone... a fortified palace that is the size of continents... .holy terra withstood a invasion by traitor legions backed by dark mechanics and demons.. and it only had 3 legions defending it and still managed to win the day...tells you alot about how the ground defence is.

[@deathkorpofkrieg6768]

I thought the armies retreated after the HOLY EMPEROR smited down his son

[@deathkorpofkrieg6768]

@@giantturtlecat2959 FOR THE EMPEROR

[@tarraux5971]

To be fair, the traitors only retreated because the Sons of Horus prematurely retreated after their Primarch's death.

[@maxxcreese9911]

dknight xs HOLY TERRA

[@yourneighbour5738]

WH40K will eat Star Wars universe for lunch. Orcs - planetary STD that needs to fight like plants need the sun Tyranids - planetary STD Chaos - feeds on misery which there will be plenty Imperium of Man - Will not hesitate to stack wipe you for heresy Necrons - simply cannot stand watching you just being alive

[@lorindion6836]

Your Neighbour Imperial Guardsman: Stalingrad? We call that Tuesday

[@EarFarce4]

Eldar: 1)NECRONS!? 2)Chance of some Eldar getting a sniffle on your world some time 500 years later: "SEND IN ALLL THE STD'S ALL OF 'EM!"

[@Fototheier]

Necrons are definitely more complex than that.

[@valhalanguardsman2588]

You: *exist* Necrons: *TRIGGERED* More or less legit exept if necrons some how refused the comands of their toomb lord or if noon is present

[@bluestormpony]

eldar: thats a nice defense system you have... would be a shame if someone could... ignore it entirely

[@golong13]

"Cadia broke before the Guard did" "May the Emperor Protects"

[@lizgayle14]

@midgetydeath In the middle of the largest warp storm that was the newly formed Eye of Terror, no less.

[@jakubkoubsky]

Cadia f@&king STANDS!!!

[@Zion374]

I am sorry, what, did you just try to compare Star Wars, Halo and Mass Effect against Warhammer 40k????

[@eng3d]

At least then don't mentioned star trek

[@guardianofthetoasters2323]

@Samuel Davidson no for u see he is a mere child..... Thst has yet to realized his faith upon this golden tosster

[@NeiasaurusCreations]

He did a fairly good job, though I think if he knew how the imperium's defensive strategy works he probably wouldn't have. Because the only time a force can even make it a few sectors in is when GW wants to bullshit plot to happen. Which is fine, shit has to get done. But typically the more worlds you put under threat, the more neighboring sectors start preparing for war, eventually snowballing into forces the likes of which all of star war's wars couldn't match.

[@ZZMonkeysUncleZZ]

To be fair, in some ways Star Wars can be a decent matchup if you go by EU stuff, even if it loses overall. Halo and Mass Effect are pretty funny though, since the former isn't ancient species.

[@NeiasaurusCreations]

@@ZZMonkeysUncleZZ No it really can't though. Because the GRA, probably the single most powerful army, was only 6,000,000 men including pilots, tanks crews, etc. A single planet from warhammer 40k out produces that by fifty or so times. For example, Krieg can supply multiple entire armies of 18,000,000+ men, keep them topped up on numbers, and still supply regiments, and other forces. There's also the period he chose to pit. See, he chose GRA, which was star war at it's prime in terms of power. And then 40k era imperium, which is the imperium after 10,000 years of backsliding. Instead, I'd make the case that the GRA would not be fighting 40k imperium, but 30k Great crusade imperium. Meaning the Emporer, all 18 primarchs, all 18 LEGIONs, and the imperial auxiliary would be a police force mostly. Keep world compliment, and clean up the mess from whatever legion just got down royally molesting the world with absent of a safeword. Why? Because in a scenario of a galaxy invasion, 40k would be unlikely to launch such a thing. However, the great crusade was all about humanity on offense, reclaiming the stars, and destroying all alien life...Such as a galaxy full of treacherous aliens. So if you put the GRA, I'd put forth space marine legions. At which point there's absolutely no comparison, 40k's Legions take the buck in every way. A clone can't match the might of an astarte, and a jedi can't match a primarch. The GRA would be over run in a few years at best, and most of that would be space travel. The crusade era imperium would be such a one-sided victory that likely only a few legions would even be sent, after all the imperium is busy taking over the entire galaxy by force of arms, in actual planet sieges in scale and scope that star wars just doesn't deliver. Hell the Iron warriors, and their supporting elements of armor, and titans could utterly destroy the republic by itself, just a single legion. Perty would be on Coruscant in a few days, and have bled the GRA dry in a week. It wouldn't have the numbers needed to even remotely counter the entire iron warrior's legion. But even 40k's imperium would be able to just destroy them with the successor chapters of a single legion, and a krieg army. Throw 18,000,000 men, and like 200,000 space marines of the ultramarines and their successors at the GRA and watch it shatter. Probably not as fast as the actual great crusade era, but still fast enough. It would, in either case, be rape with the absence of any type of safe word. No I'm not saying sorry I used arch's joke twice, it was equally as true the second time.

[@Arashmickey]

Before I forget: Space Emperors Compared!

[@coreymicallef365]

Arashmickey so who would be in it? I'm guess the Terran God Emperor from WH40k, Palpatine from Star Wars, the dictator for the Terran Dominion from StarCraft whose name I can't remember (never played the games), and who else? Maybe the guy running tje Helgast Empire from Kill Zone(again never played the game, I just remember a Templin Institute video on them)?

[@gokbay3057]

Leto II from Dune

[@ZZMonkeysUncleZZ]

God Emperor wins, no contest. His work has allowed the Imperium to survive for 10,000 years in a galaxy who's hostility levels would make Palpatine's head explode. No other emperor from any of Eckhart's usual choices for setting come close. In terms of power, it's the same thing. The only other emperor to be even somewhat similar would be Legends Palpatine, and the God Emperor would still utterly crush him.

[@squishy1706]

Obi-Wan Kenobi oh and the fact he has killed someone by DESTROYING THEIR SOUL

[@johnparks4345]

why would you compare Emperors to what basically considered a living god? (Emperor of Man)

[@SpanishDio]

*Terra is Our Fortress Among The Stars*

[@mogen8128]

Me: Looking on thumbnail and found Imperium of Men's symbol with Holy Terra being Wallpaper. *LAUGH IN IMPERIAL GUARD*

[@marseldagistani1989]

Ready your Bayonet

[@SPACEHARICE]

putting up 40k against the citadel it's like telling today's mordern armies combined to fight the hunter gathers of early humans

[@masterblaster3508]

Depends. Weapon rate of fire goes to mass effect Durability goes to 40K Tech goes to Mass Effect. This is mainly due to Imperium stagnation where as Mass Effect in 3 years post Citadel battle jumped up very quick in tech/lot of lore was built in the comics and ANN/CERBERUS Network intel. Weapons overall raw power is 50/50 for both due to rates of fire. A 40k main gun Weapons compare to a mass effect main gun is silly at first. However main guns of mass effect fire every 5 seconds at 1/3 speed of light prior to the thanix weapon and upgraded system cores. Broadside and flack guns fire every 2 seconds. 40k does big payloads and then takes awhile to fire again their weapons. Their torpedoes are mostly negated to the GARDIAN system, Arnex System and better use of V.I/A.I tech interface. Fighters/interceptors eat 40k imperium strike craft due to speed, power, agility and being supported by the ofher ships defenses that are also anti fighter personnel that are way leagues better than 40k anti strike craft on their ships. Ships overall in mass effect are faster, easy to navigate and move but do bare in mind that Mass Effect can do what a lot of other sci fi universes can. However they do have laws and regulations in place to limit power, nanites/extreme ways to wage war.

[@authoraven]

@@masterblaster3508 and if shepard wanna f.ck some blue alien at some planet, he will not have to go through a literal hell and back to reach that planet and not gonna get shot by a inqusitor cause of xenosex is heresy.

[@IAmAlpharius20]

​@@masterblaster3508HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA wait, you're serious? Let me laugh even HARDER. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[@olivier5251]

Rogal Dorn is the greatest in fortifications after all!

[@stuartmcclurey9926]

Perturabo was the better builder, he brought down Terra's defences.

[@olivier5251]

Except that perturabo was a petulant baby So by cool factor Rogal wins. And as you know, the rule of cool is the greatest rule in 40k

[@stuartmcclurey9926]

Dorn was a spoiled brat and the corpse god was and is a bad leader and father. The Iron Warriors got none of the attention and Perturabo wanted to build cities, not destroy stuff.

[@Mondy667]

Olivier Van Der Hoeven You do realize in Angel Exterminatus Perturabo wants to build cities.

[@olivier5251]

Well I hadn't come that far in the books yet, so I guess I do not realise Still doesn't mean Rogal isn't cool though

[@arcadius2569]

The citadel was pretty cool but seeing that lone enemy ship sneak in was kind of horrifying. Without inner defenses they had nothing. Warhammer looks cool as hell xD

[@FoxerHR]

Within the context of the game it is extremely understandable how that happened, but it makes it so much more horrifying since that ship is a reaper with, as you saw, nigh impenetrable armour and lasers that can destroy ANYTHING but I think that the Citadel should be above Coruscant since it could move across mass relays, you also can't destroy it, it was also used for civilian life so it's understandable how little defense it has.

[@leustragaming4386]

Becasue we the fanbase have the God Emperor to protect us from the Heresy that is Chaos..

[@enoughothis]

Holy Terra has the entire Solar System and Battlefleet Solar to protect it. Once again Warhammer 40K runs off of Rule of Awesome. Side note, Earth is on this list twice so.. Mother Earth FOR THE WIN!

[@illusiveman1613]

AJ Jones the moon is also basically a giant battle fortress

[@enoughothis]

He didn't even mention the Grey Knights and their Citadel on Titan and the Forge-World of Mars.

[@robertnelson9599]

Well Mars' Skitarii and Titan Legions would mostly help for ground invasions, they don't really operate in space, particularly the Titans. The Grey Knights would help, but their numbers are limited and often deployed out in space, so they would at best board a few ships.

[@enoughothis]

You're forgetting that Mars is the main shipyard in the Solar System. The AdMech has ships of their own, the Arks Mechanicus are some of the most technologically advanced ships in the Imperium, mostly because the Tech Priests don't share their toys.

[@illusiveman1613]

AJ Jones and the custodes have their own op archeotech ships

[@ninten90z70]

Mad props to Cad Bane. Infiltrates Coruscant, successfully assaults the senate building, holds many key political figures ransom, and manages to escape the planet undetected and unscathed after having completed his objective of liberating Zerro from prison.

[@johng9004]

the reason why Holy Terra is heavily fortified is because Rogal Dorn loves building fortress and also because dear lovable horus is coming to get you

[@essexclass8168]

How about the Homeworld of the Cadian 8th Imperial Guard? so well defended the planet wasn't even a planet anymore and they were still defending it anyways, Humanity hell yeah, from bottom to the top!

[@Gekiko7167]

*Cadia broke before the guard did*

[@ddavis5708]

@@Gekiko7167 *Cadians are still fighting on the remains of cadia. Cadia stands*

[@samreid6010]

Essex Class I read that as the Canadian imperial guard and was readily confused

[@EarFarce4]

@TheBunkerBuster 105 rage quit more like

[@thenumberoneyoungthug7477]

Which faction has the best wonton soup?

[@JustAPotato1998]

*desire to know more intensifies*

[@Scortch-lo3xy]

lol

[@auroralee]

I bet Star Wars has some REALLY good street food if you know where to look.

[@a.morphous66]

Dex’s Diner, that’s where it’s at.

[@theRok29]

Connor the Shekelmiester the trade federation of course

[@MijnAfspeellijst1234]

The imperiale inquisition aproves of this video, my the emperor light shine bright apon you dear citizen. THE EMPEROR PROTECTS

[@leustragaming4386]

THe Omnisiah is disaproved of you FOOLISHNES! THis man is a Heretic, He thinks Holy Terra is "Kinda safe" GEE it's the safest place in the galaxy, THis man SHALL BE PURGED AND CLEANSED OF HIS HERESY

[@TheSqoad]

Is there even a point in letting 40K take part on these comparisons/contests? The writers of 40K clearly live by the rule "the more ridiculous it sounds, the better it is". There is such a thing as being objectively comparable. The Terran Dominion (StarCraft) and UNSC (Halo) are at about the right level for a comparison and they have access to similar tech - except that Terrans have access to psychics. However, when you bring 40K into the mix, you have voided any semblance of reasonable discussion. You just organised a boxing match where one contestant gets a rocket launcher.

[@jocosesonata]

Or more fittingly, a Bolter. Except it explodes *inside* of you.

[@chrishasyourkeys2808]

Roflmao you are my favorite person today! Fucking love the insanity of 40 k

[@jnnfccc1794]

I think the hardest part of the comparison is the timeframe. A lot of 40k fans pointed out that the Halo universe could have actually existed in the 40k universe's past. Much of contemporary history thousands of years in each direction are lost in the 40k universe and the whole halo episode could have occurred and been forgotten. Earth's defenses in halo then would be like comparing DC's current defenses against humanity 40k years ago, so really no comparison. Thus, I agree with you but for different reasons. Another interesting theory about 40k history is that Event Horizon occurred in 40k's history as well

[@benjaminpowers609]

As a 40k fan, I agree. There's rarely any point bringing it into one of these discussions if you're pitting it against the UNSC. Although Spartans are badass, Astartes are like Spartan Spartans. *shrug*

[@tblickle]

The imperium defends their world with guns called “world Enders” so to me that sounds like they could scrap even a space hulk in a small amount of time

[@Gigas0101]

Anyone else get freaked out whenever Master Chief puts his helmet on? I mean, we know he's got another helmet under that helmet, why double up? Warhammer 40,000, once again, pushes things too damn far. Good thing that's one of its main charms.

[@prisregil]

When you face literal demons, Space locust, countless traitor guardsmen, Thousands of traitor space marines, Space elf's, other space elf's, Space fungus that likes dakka, Robot skeletons and for some reason super advanced humanoid fish? Overkill doesn't exist with defense or offense.

[@Mattress1996]

I ignore it entirely because of how OP their writer's god complex is. Like if someone brings up warhammer in a fleet debate I kick them out of chat kinda deal.

[@Spacefrisian]

To be fair, Warhammer 40k (and Star Wars) is more Fantasy than Sci Fi, so dunno if they should have been included in a Sci Fi setting. Should have been swapped for the likes of the Ancients or Asgard from Stargate or something.

[@ScreamingTc]

"I heard you needed more gun, so I stuck a gun on your gun, and then added another gun" - The 40K ethos.

[@orumonuldor1340]

Star wars is fantasy, Warhammer 40K is cosmic horror. Similar basis in genre, but distinct.

[@jacobyin5320]

10:21 Safe... yes... those are... words... *Inquisition Intensifies*

[@gavinhoskins3031]

Jacob Yin no blood may be spilt on holy terra but that doesn’t mean you can burn the heretics

[@obscure_genesis]

The fact that Terra is unironically a very safe place in Warhammer 40k is enough to prove it is the best. Although I would like to see a video going over the details of each placement. I just love the little details.

[@adman4150]

well, safe from invaders. but it is the single most deadly place in the galaxy, billions probably die every day, but because of the amount of people on terra, the population goes right back up within the hour.

[@AvalancheZ250]

I like how WarHammer wins even when accounting for power scaling simply because the notion of a “safe” place in that galaxy is absurd.

[@davevd9944]

Terra is the safetest and strongest location in the emperium of man none can assail it !!! *Abadon* hold my beer.

[@ianmarker8602]

I mean you cant really scale 40k's power to anything, everything is just too big and powerful

[@nathancarignan8074]

@@ianmarker8602 yeeeah having almost every sizable space ship have multiple civilizations because its population is just so damned big that most people dont even see where other parts of the crew live will do that

[@ChouhouinNeko]

there is one thing that cant be stopped that would doom tera. The sun blowing up

[@nayrosnoflaalfonso1050]

@@ChouhouinNeko the emperor is probably keeping the sun in check dont qoute me though, i'm not sure if he does but with the shit one can do with the warp i wouldnt be surprised if he actually is the one sustaining the sun

[@BigbossASR]

I believe that Terra also has shields, while they don't cover all of the planet, each hive city large enough has huge void shields to protect it. And the Emperor's palace has tons of those shields.

[@BigbossASR]

toprowsky123 That's sort of the history with the Rock so yeah, we could even move the Emperor around hahaha

[@fellowman8796]

Yeah, the cities do, otherwise the month long bombardment from Horus's forces would've decimated them all.

[@the_dropbear4392]

Fellow Man The whole planet is a city

[@the_dropbear4392]

Alvaroman Other planets have planetary void Sheild, terra does too

[@theProphetofIrony]

"The fact that there is a planet in 40k that is sort of safe..." PERFECT!!!

[@ImperialHarbinger]

Another point for the Imperium is that there's literally a giant gate underneath Terra's palace that leads to the webway, which is basically an intergalactic highway built within a literal hell-realm from which essentially billions of daemons can flow forth from. To think that legions of Titans, specialist anti-psychic pariahs, and almost-godlike Custodians were actually able to fend off an invasion of that very nature is staggering.

[@joshuabonesteel2303]

Coruscant has fallen so many times their flag just has the words "wait for it". The rebels, the empire, the yuuzhan vong, and even the separatists have breached/ destroyed the defenses of Coruscant. Definitely not the best.

[@joshuabonesteel2303]

Halo's earth had its defenses breached by Regret's raggedy ass fleet and then got almost decimated by truth's reinforcements. If it wasn't for the flood and elite forces, that could have played out a lot like reach did. The didact almost did the same with his super weapon. Also, Cortana took Earth so...

[@joshuabonesteel2303]

Terra has had the forces of chaos, orks, and even eldar on their front door step. Seeing as how one would only have to wipe out the golden throne to cause a warp tear that would most likely destroy most of the solar system, cant say they are really that well protected. Hell, against the beast, the imperium had a hard time even rallying itself to fight when the enemy was demanding their surrender.

[@joshuabonesteel2303]

The citadel has been taken by reaper forces two different times and has been overrun by Cerberus forces. While I could probably give them a pass on the reapers loss, seeing as how they are superior in about every way and the citadel is actually a mass relay to dark space where their forces are AND is what they use to make more reapers after wiping the galaxy, the Cerberus loss was just plain sad.

[@the_dropbear4392]

@@joshuabonesteel2303 Orks and Chaos where before they built the defenses up. Orks didn't invade they just sat in orbit, because the moron of a lord admiral sent the whole battle-fleet the opposite side of the galaxy

[@jeskler]

Joshua Bonesteel Cerberus has an advantage as they were snuck in due to udina, not allowing the actual defenses of the Citadel to be used, so I wouldn’t count that

[@Lordmaladax]

I’m a simple man... I know but one truth... the emperor protects us...

[@Xero_117]

Dammit Eckhart I have to work on a paper

[@a.morphous66]

Work can wait.

[@Diluted37]

Same lol

[@parkermaisterra8532]

Literally every time I have to work on a paper or anything important Eckart seems to post a video

[@timbartschwolfman]

Chris Kye Relax man Eckharts Ladder is cool

[@BilboWaggins]

*looks at thumbnail* Oh hey, 40k. Yeah they're winning no doubt

[@sanguiniusonvacation1803]

you forgot the defenses of Mars . the adeptus mechanicus view Mars as their holy world .

[@ZZMonkeysUncleZZ]

Terra's defences are greater still.

[@maxpower3990]

But it still has the Ring of Iron, a man-made halo of the planet that acts as fleet base and defense platform. It would also have Ad Mech Explorator Fleets and could produce millions of Battle Automata(droids) very quickly if threatened. Mars is the oldest, most advanced, holiest and most defended Forge World in the Imperium. If the planet gets attacked and the Noctus Labyrinth gets damaged or destroyed then you will then have to deal with the Void Dragon.

[@erebusvonmori8050]

Yeah, I was expecting Mars to get a mention and possibly also Titan.

[@Gothic7876]

Yep the 2 holiest of holy sites in the entire Imperium. Those defences are going to be incredible

[@franciscoostos8527]

yeah,emperor have mercy of those who even scrap the surface of mars as the mecanichus its not very kind XD

[@Jaeger_Bishop]

Another well made video. Can't blame the 40K universe from being #1 in many cases in a Vrs or compared, after all it's the universe where Machines (like emperor titans) dwarfing the size of our tallest skyscrapers are not enough to defend planets sometimes. The scale of Chaos and Ork invasions see to no one forgetting how important planetary defense is.

[@Lulu-ex7fc]

Imperator titans average around 40-60 meters in height, though their girth would make them have more mass than a skyscraper of today.

[@pablo9234]

yes but then you have the ordinatus engines

[@Lulu-ex7fc]

True, but those are pretty much built on order for certain disastrous events such as a fucking Ork attack moon teleporting above your homeworld. Once they fire their ordinance (usually like one or two rounds), they're either destroyed or taken apart or looted by the remaining Orks or whatever.

[@thyreradim7885]

+Jaeger_Bishop, the Forerunner fighter called a "war sphinx" was better than fucking dark age tech lol, halo kicks ass when talking about ancient (ancient halo even bullshits more than ancient wh40k.)

[@thyreradim7885]

+Andrew Hu, the Forerunner standard fighter which was outdated during mid Forerunner-Flood war could blow continents to shit.

[@warren286]

A common misconception, the starships in Star Wars don't orbit planets, they hover at extreme altitude, at least in episode 3. You'll notice that the ships fall when destroyed.

[@snap8626]

you couldn't get within a country light year of HOLY TERRA before an entire legion took you out. then add in the actual army, and oh yea, mechanicus

[@VitaKet]

What the Astra Militarum? They are just fodder. Adeptus Astartes my boy.

[@sicarius6501]

@Lord of Warhammer ah... you mean D E H B A N E B L A D E

[@ZZMonkeysUncleZZ]

@@VitaKet Maybe ten or twenty years ago, but now most Guard regiments are badass.

[@canadious6933]

Man, always something unexpected. Nice

[@timbartschwolfman]

Canadious Nice picture of Palpatine 👍

[@timbartschwolfman]

Owen Yin 😕 Nana? Who's that

[@timbartschwolfman]

Owen Yin Ok

[@ChaoticHeretic]

Also I just want to point out that the Emperor of Mankind has two Warhound titans guarding the door to his chamber. xD

[@TF2BluSoldier]

Warhounds? I thought he had two Imperitor titans?

[@bogdanlandzhev4870]

Nah, its 2 warhounds for the sanctum imperialis. I mean come on, give the man some privacy.

[@nayrosnoflaalfonso1050]

@@TF2BluSoldier would they even fit inside? warhound are plausable but imperators? that is a bit of a stretch

[@TF2BluSoldier]

@@nayrosnoflaalfonso1050 I heard they gaurded the front gate externally.

[@scottlloyd9762]

It is warlord titans.

[@imapopo2924]

Just imagine the Holy Shitstorm of PISSED space marines that would show up to defend Holy Terra. No contest. The Imperium is just that damn strong both in numbers and insanely powerful soldiers with fanatical motivation

[@Pelegrin01]

Omg dude! I just thought of a fanatical pissed off Space Marine defending Terra and the Emperor! I couldn't stop laughing; It's impossible to reach even the Solar system let alone Terra.

[@guardianofthetoasters2323]

@@Pelegrin01 *laughs in heritical horus* oh really now?

[@Pelegrin01]

@@guardianofthetoasters2323 Only if you have help from the Ruinous Powers. And again you will be defeated.

[@guardianofthetoasters2323]

@@Pelegrin01 OH REALLY NOW? *flashback on the 2nd major daemon invasion on terra* if roboute girlyman wasnt there u guys are fucked

[@Pelegrin01]

@@guardianofthetoasters2323 You dont really know that. The Primaris Astartes were ready and also Mars and Luna and Titan had their own say on the matter before you can even reach Terra. If you dont have help with the Dark Gods you will have to enter from the Mandeville point of Sol. And thats the hardest part.

[@stygianinflatableboat6613]

What if we combined the entire military forces of SW, Halo, and Mass Effect against the Imperium? Wait... no... this still isn't a fair fight.

[@raver377]

give them the traitorous legions aswell then youd have an almost fair fight

[@thetrippedup9322]

@@raver377 If they could make it to Terra without killing each other

[@randomelite4562]

Obscura Art Nah that would mean you put in the Forerunners and Ancient humanity which absolutely stomp the Imperium. And the Galactic Empire is equal or almost equal in power to the Imperium.

[@thetrippedup9322]

@@randomelite4562 If agree that an Ancient Halo fleet could stand up to the Imperium, but the Galactic Empire is *not* anywhere near as powerful and influential as the Imperium

[@reclusiarchgrimaldus1269]

@@randomelite4562 The Forerunners would most likely stomp the Imperium, but if it was humanity from the Dark Age of Technology then they'd be pretty evenly matched up

[@JCDenton2012Modder]

Even though Terra from Warhammer 40k has been successfully invaded twice I think it has the best defenses. You have to consider the strength of your rivals. Star Wars... has it "easy" compared to the Warhammer 40k Universe. Only The Beast of Slaughter and Horus have ever successfully invaded Terra, and I'm honest enough to admit that they would both make short work of Coruscant's defenses. That's how overwhelming those invasions were.

[@CanadianFH]

JCDenton 2012 well... also the black templars and imperial fists in M34 (date?). But that was a civil/political matter rather than an outright invasion.

[@the_dropbear4392]

JCDenton 2012 I wouldn't call either invasion successful as they both were defeated

[@Char1iBr0wn]

Successful implies winning. Neither the Beast nor Horus won. The Beast set a planetary object in place that did not invade and was defeated by the reunited Imperial Fists Legion, and Horus and all the Traitors failed. So no one has ever been successful.

[@Jebu911]

Well they were successful in touching the ground of holy terra. I guess that counts when every inch of solar system is weaponized to stop exactly that.

[@crimsonshadow3089]

in all fairness star wars dose have the yuuzhan vong to deal with even the adeptus custodes would have a hard time with them

[@DarkSolace33]

Terra autem immortalem!!!

[@josecolon2717]

Primarch Roboute Guilliman 01000101 01110100 01101001 01100001 01101101 00100000 01000101 01110011 01110100! (Etiam Est)

[@AximandTheCursed]

Terra Aeterna!

[@ultrasmurf1245]

Primarch Roboute Guilliman YEA MY BROTHER

[@МахамбетМамыров]

Courage and Honor! For Ultramar!

[@thebeastisback2697]

Hey papa smurf kitten cut that life support yet. Btw new EP 26 out next week.

[@CommissarMitch]

"Gonna keep this logical" [Laughs in Warhammer]

[@overlordinquisitor6565]

Honestly Warhammer 40,000 is much more logical than Disney Star Wars.

[@CaptRex501st]

Good thing he didn't pick Star Trek. They can't defend nothing

[@Stasy809]

Captain Rex true a single fortress world from 40k has as many military units as all the federation and that's being generous.

[@andrewvukovic9708]

I feel like the Federation could put up a really good fight if the weren't such pacifist considering basically every weapon they have is a WMD. The standard torpedoes have a yield between 730-1170 megatons and their weakest ship based phasers have been shown to be able to destroy a mountain the size of Kilimanjaro in a couple of seconds and can put out a nonstop stream of that energy level from every phaser bank on the ship with near perfect accuracy.

[@jacobkingsford447]

Actually a single hive city does and they are a non defensive city

[@jacobkingsford447]

They should try to survive the kilometre wide cannons on a warhammer Ship id like to see startreck do that

[@razieluchiha7580]

Captain Rex Starfleet is not a waring faction. I like them. Yeah, the weakest space marine chapter would wipe the floor with them, but they would probably join the imperium before an exterminatus is declared.

[@vinniebg3553]

ECKHARTTTTT, I have final tests for my school year coming up. I really do not appreciate you interesting me with your well produced, fun and informative content that deserves a like! Then again, Great Video Eckhart. -Your dedicated fan

[@ESFNinja]

Been feeling a bit under the weather... ...but this video made my day :)

[@reckapple5641]

You should get punished for your puns

[@nkvdcomradeorion7336]

It was only out for 2 minutes the time you made this comment XD

[@ordo_draigo_assault_ham]

Empire: We have a Death Star Imperium: *laughs in psycotic Inquisitors with Cyclonic Torpedos

[@leustragaming4386]

"We have a Imperitor Class titan Try me BIOTCH"

[@CT_7567Rex]

was warhammer made by a child what are these stupid ass names

[@laserutouettal]

Obi-Wan: “That’s no moon, that’s a space station.” Imperium: *breathe in* “boi”

[@leustragaming4386]

Death Star Drools over Terras moon

[@criminaljhd5298]

Loving these vids this week can’t wait to see what’s for tomorrow XD

[@lord2529]

Did he say Terra is safe? Try taking a stroll down the underhive and say that with a straight face again. XD

[@KossolaxtheForesworn]

get drunk, wake up in the backroom of some underhive pub. how am I here and how am I alive.

[@lord2529]

MrAnimepredator it's a wonder you weren't kidnapped and sold "for the good of the imperium."

[@scottlloyd9762]

I thought he said "mostly safe".

[@jocosesonata]

Well, in comparison... At least it's not getting fucked by daemons.

[@xXFuzzeeXx]

You forgot to mention that the Emperor himself is on Holy Terra. If he absolutely had to, at risk of his own health, he could probably banish a entire invasion force with his psyker powers.

[@alexhoughton3305]

*havent actually watched yet* Hmm... Is it 40k? I'm guessing it's 40k

[@smoketinytom]

1st: Imperium of Man 2nd: Galactic Empire, perhaps joint with UNSC depending upon timings with post-war or not. 3rd: UNSC, but could be Joint 2nd with Empire based on Active Ship types, numbers and whether a second Infinity-Class was built. 4th: Systems Alliance.... The UNSC never retreated from their home-world when the Covenant, sure it got hit hard, but they held. Same story with the Imperium. They never lost Holy Terra to some space Squids. Even during the Horus Heresy, it never fell.

[@John2r1]

The UNSC also never retreated form Reach at the same time. Reach's orbital defenses fall and months later UNSC ground forces where still giving the Covenant hell. The UNSC are if nothing else a stubborn mule of a human empire . You can glass their planets and they will still send a fleet to reclaim it at all cost. The battle for Harvest lasted 5 years of straight up hell and fire with both suffering heavy loses . Yet the UNSC retook the planet. I personally think the Imperium wouldn't even try fighting the UNSC but would a choose more diplomatic approach like they did with the Squats . Due to the UNSC sharing the traits of being stubborn and fiercely independent . Granting the UNSC a high level of autonomy compared to other Imperial worlds. It might start as trading then slowly absorbed the UNSC . But that would be best case for the Imperium as fighting a culture that wasn't affected by the age of strife is not the best ideal. I agree with your listing though . The UNSC's Earth is less defensible than Terra but better defended than the System Alliance . Since they never broke ranks or retreated from their homeworld. Granted the UNSC does have a much more defensible planet in their list of planets which is of course Onyx. Because there's nothing any faction on the list could do to get into a Forerunner built shield world with a dyson sphere inside it. That the UNSC happens to own and have a science team on the planet currently. Along with a number of Spartan super soldiers as security forces.

[@mattkennedy9308]

The Imperium would give the UNSC the chance to join but they'll be destroyed if they said No.

[@eyadzamreek2063]

The imperium in 40k as a whole and its governmental body is a decaying slow moving corpse. However, it makes all the other factions in this list as miniature Dwarfed empires in terms of size and power.

[@Jebu911]

Yeah in 40k equivalent comparison all other universes are tau at best.

[@Raptorman0205]

@@Jebu911 I think the Tau would still body most other franchise's best factions.

[@jasonlynch282]

Doesn't star wars empire govern it's whole galaxy? But empire of man only governs a chunk of the milky way galaxy. So unless star wars galaxy is far smaller then the milky way galaxy. Shouldn't the empire have superior resources? Granted 40k has the most OP tech of any fiction.

[@Jebu911]

@@jasonlynch282 Well imperium of man is just about 99% militarized and as you said has the best technology. Star wars universe is much more peaceful and wouldnt be ready for total war against imperium that is in perpetual war and can afford to fight a war of attrition where billions die a day without batting an eye.

[@randomelite4562]

Jebu911 Last I checked the Star Wars GE had less than 10 million worlds

[@karlsmith2570]

Without a doubt, Holy Terra is a lot more heavily defended than Coruscant due to having the moon being outfitted with weaponry and all of the mines that are in orbit making any kind of outright assault on Terra extremely difficult

[@EbonFang_92]

surface-to-orbit missile siloes, anti-orbital laser towers. You would have to have the most advanced ship ever to slip through the defenses unnoticed

[@SIRslipperyasp91]

I don't Even need to watch the Vidoe to know 40k beats this. Terra has turned the entire contents of nothing America into a single impenetrable fortress garden by countless legions of zeless millenium old post human Warriors equipped with the best technology 28,000 years of human ingenuity would produce. This is all within a setting where planets getting blown up are a standered occurrence.

[@DamnedUsernameThing]

Well, Terra does not actually have Space Marines on its blessed soil. The population banned Space Marines from being on the surface of Terra without a very good reason; They don't like Space Marines because of the Horus Heresy. But the Phalanx and the Imperial Fists still get to sit around in orbit

[@SIRslipperyasp91]

I'm speaking about the adapta custodies, the even biggern badderass version of a space marine with equipment that's outright magical for how advanced it is i comparison to anything the Space Marines have.

[@essexclass8168]

Banana Guard Ho!

[@Mikazuchireborn]

Hell, even if we completely ignore the fact that the Emperor's banana guards weren't already bigger & badder than the Space Marines, do you realize how much Dark Age tech they got horded up in that Palace? Advanced gravity vehicles that glide gracefully through the air while having all the same protection as the big lumbering tanks, Adrathic disintegration guns that makes charged Plasma fire look like went sponges by comparison? Lastrum Bolter rounds that cause thermite reactions inside your body? And let's not forget all the Dark Age weapons the Assasinorum are sporting.

[@KossolaxtheForesworn]

oh yeah the Imperial palace is teeming of the custodes. thats like super space marine.

[@reidwallace4258]

I gotta say... I've never understood the idea of the citadel 'closing'... Like sure, it LOOKS cool, but we have seen it, many times... what is at the bottom of that closed shell of metal? A big round hole in its bum.

[@speestechsupport1341]

>TFW Terra is always on a brink of collapse by a humongous invasion force of Daemons coming from the webway gate + I’ve heard, that teleporting a giant moon in its orbit and literally throwing rocks with a bunch of angry fungus inside is a good way to assault it

[@DamnedUsernameThing]

Terra isn't constantly being assaulted by Daemons, the webway gate underneath the Golden Throne was closed off long ago. But the Emperor needs to keep it shut, so it's still on the brink of collapse because if the Emperor goes kaput then so does Terra

[@marinesinspace6253]

Holy Retconned Plotlines Batman!

[@speestechsupport1341]

DamnedUsernameThing Well, I would call the constantly failing mechanisms of the Golden Throne as “teetering on the brink of collapse”

[@essexclass8168]

1. There's a sun at the door 2. Only because the Grand Admiral was a moron

[@josynaemikohler6572]

Or he just regenerates like Vulkan did. Or is reincarnated like the Torians believe... or instantly becomes a god, probably because of the amounts of followers, even stronger than the chaos gods. But it would be a bit risky to try. :P Although, it is already heavily implied in the Fall of Cadia, that he already is a god, since Living Saints and the Legion of the Damned are affected by Cadia's pylons the same way, chaos worshippers and demons are...

[@kristopherbruns7674]

I laughed for a minute straight when i read the title. Its like having race between the Flash and comatose patient.