WHICH TOYOTA CROWN IS THE BEST???

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[@RobStaniford]

i picked up a urs206 for 20k aud, 174,000kms. awesome rig.

[@murry001]

I'm looking at Crowns now, so thank you for making this video :)

[@puntymario]

Always love to see some more recent discussion on the crowns. I wanted to note a few things not mentioned as a uz175 owner, which is the 1uz v8 equipped majesta model. Watch out when buying a crown with a 2j. If it's designated as FSE it's direct injected and as far as I know that was only available on the majesta but I could be wrong. At least with the 1uz V8 you can still enjoy cable throttle with vvti at least up to 1999 which seems to be pretty uncommon with Toyotas V8 vehicles. I wouldn't totally knock the s170 gen in terms of handling as it's suspension is shared with the aristo and that car set pretty good benchmarks in its day. The car feels fairly nimble and with thicker sways, a little drop and strut towers I imagine it'll be a great canyon carver. I wish I could experience different generations as the build quality for s170s is phenomenal. You accelerate in absolute silence, it's ev quiet. It's quite literally affected my perception of what a quality automotive product should be. It's aged better than the celsior. Arguably looks better and it's better equipped. Thanks to anyone to takes a read and if there's any more questions about the uz175 I can at least try to answer those.

[@garynew9637]

Best crown is the crown you own! My first was an ms53 ute.

[@AdamLetter]

@@garynew9637 agreed and tbh that's all that matters aye

[@miladwolfster4309]

I personally love the Jzs 171

[@AdamLetter]

I cant disagree

[@loganross7828]

I have a a uzs171 10year anniversary edition in the highest trim absolutely love it.

[@bear_hardy2118]

Pretty much agree with everything there. I got my 171W to tune and it fuel economy now with the bosch 1600cc injectors and Haltech E2500 is not what it used to be haha (probably around 15l/100km). The 206 I have gets absurd highway mileage and I have seen economy down in the early 9's per 100km using it which is unreal for such a big engine. The 206 is a lot harder to find tuner parts for but i have found that Bullet Cars on the Gold Coast have a kit for the 4.6l V8 for the Landcruiser that will fit but its an expensive mod (~$20k all in) so its on the back burner until I get the 171 finished. The 186 is definitely the most VIP looking of the 3 and I love seeing all the stance builds done with it. Im happy with my two and I think your last comment is the most important, regardless what people choose its the right choice for them and let them enjoy it and dont be a d*ck.

[@AdamLetter]

Love the feedback and sounds like you have 2 pretty nice setups 🤗

[@ilikewater]

10:32 preach, need more of this attitude in the car community

[@AdamLetter]

Love for all builds 🤗

[@Azordazor]

I think Athlete trim is better looking then Majesta through out the Crown line from late 90's to end of 2000's

[@lancewood1410]

We dont have V8 crowns in our country (prolly can't find them bcoz too rare). I have friends with S180 and S200. I chose the 4th Gen Lexus GS350 GRL10 instead. Love the car, comfy as hell.

[@joeaquino1433]

Good review mate

[@crownsintent6640]

Man I daily drive a 171 wagon and I’m a traffic controller so I drive to all the sites I have to work at It’s costing me about $300 bucks a week in fuel but I didn’t buy it for fuel economy. I love my wagon and all of it’s epicness out weighs it’s bad fuel economy that’s the way I look at it 🤷‍♂️

[@AdamLetter]

It's not miles per gallon it's smiles per gallon 🤗🤗🤗

[@iiferedoncXclan]

bro I feel you I have the sedan and it just pours fuel in the engine like a jug into a cup

[@Jaxsta001]

hahaha yep! ...then there's the insurance on top of that! I'm paying just over 2k a year with Shannons... but then again I have 11 demerit points 😜

[@iiferedoncXclan]

@@Jaxsta001 I pay 3.2k with shannons no demerit points

[@darrenberich6990]

Hi Adam, I’m in the process of importing and not very car smart. Do you still believe this list is the way to go or are their other models since this is a year old. Luv the content Ty. PS IM OLDER AND GOING TO KEEP IT PRETTY STOCK EXCEPT FOR SOME NICE WHEELS

[@AdamLetter]

The list is for sure longer but if you are after something very Luxy that you will keep stock apart from wheels I would go with the URS204 personally that's what I am trying to get my dad to buy coz he loves Luxy JDM cars but have a little more of a search as the grs204s are also nice if v8 isn't your thing

[@Jaxsta001]

I own 2 171's, a 2000 (stock and unregistered) and a 2002 (modified). I f**ken love them!

[@AdamLetter]

I think I need a 171 in my life

[@chappy2121]

I'm biased but I love my jzs171 Crown Athlete VX.

[@deathrager2404]

crowns need a manual..... the automatic shit sucks.

[@bts-xn5tg]

Hey Chappy I want to buy a vx athlete too, are they faster than grs184...how about reliability compared to v6 grs184

[@itachi3280]

I drive a Grs 214 athlete S and its pretty fast at stock and v8 changed actually MOVES

[@AdamLetter]

@@itachi3280 hell yeah

[@nathanpetric3685]

Hey mate I'm looking at going from a 200 series to a mejesta 206 it's the flagship 4 seater model in black she's sexy and good priced. 178ks but uz gies forever. I live out in beveridge so roads are bit meh. But wanna stick 20s on her and just do a bit of an exhaust upgrade. Question I had is do u know why all the seats are cooled except the front passenger on these. I mean front passenger is heated. And do u guys go on many cruises?

[@AdamLetter]

Oof big question probably more aimed for a s206 owner brother I would just be assuming seeing as U don't own one sorry. I think there are some cruises but I don't organise them I am trying to organise a meet but the manager of the car park is a pain to get hold of

[@nathanpetric3685]

@@AdamLetter well good sir I put the deposit down on a silver 206 today. So when I get we will have to go for a cruise 😀

[@meanman86]

Love ya vids. Keem em coming.

[@AdamLetter]

Thankyou 🤗🤗🤗

[@WrestlingErnestHemingway]

Sucks they won't have any of these for sale in the USA.

[@younamsayin]

new subscriber here! Absolutely love your content man, thank you

[@AdamLetter]

Thankyou legend 🤗

[@kantembe_234]

If you’re looking for a jz. Go for the chaser 1jz back puller. Very fun to drive And it’s cheaper

[@AdamLetter]

where are u finding a chaser cheap? they are like 40k plus here is aus

[@tztezza]

@@AdamLetter I might know of dirty cheap chaser body the motors just blown up I sold him my Camry to get around his car just sits in his garage he isn’t a car dude and doesn’t know what it is..South island New Zealand though

[@AdamLetter]

@@tztezza slide in my DMS on insta brother 🤗

[@tztezza]

@@AdamLetter sweet Tyrone is my real name..This weekend coming I’ll be back in Invercargill where he lives and will check to make sure it hasn’t gone to scrap yard yet before wasting your time..he tried to sell it to me for $1200 nzd after motor blew I don’t have Jz money spare lol and 3 other cars on the go so I told him to just leave it in your garage for now..I’ll ask someone to drive past to see if they can see it in the meantime and if there will start the ball rolling

[@AdamLetter]

@@tztezza sounds like a plan brother

[@ollie786]

171s get closer to 12-14L/100, the quoted fuel consumption is absolute bollocks hahaha

[@AdamLetter]

I agree but I would say the quoted consumption is as inaccurate for each model kinda thing and it's the only constant to go by.

[@twich31]

@@AdamLetter i was gonna say too my 206 smashes the fuel.. deffs now it not cheap... love the car but thinking on getting a car to drive for work and have the 206 for going out etc

[@chappy2121]

I've just done 500 miles on a tank in mine which I don't think is too bad

[@briantan3931]

Adam, if you had to start over, would you pick the 186 or 206?

[@AdamLetter]

i would still go the 186 to be honest i love it so much. i had the idea of swapping it with a chaser as i LOVE them and it would be financially a very smart move for me but even before i asked the guy bout it i regretted it as i would miss my 186 too much so i didnt ask and just accepted ill have to go buy a chaser outright later on aswell as keeping the 186

[@plagueprincess1870]

I have a 175 Majesta and I love it. 60-80 bucks a week to fill from half way on 98, lovely to drive, plenty of room, couple of luxuries as mines the cheaper trim level 20 years old and the only trouble Ive had is a few dead ignition coils and the radiator cover leaks a little I plan to take it to every capital city and Ive ticked off Sydney, Canberra and Melbourne already without missing a beat

[@bear_hardy2118]

Come on up to Brissie and I'll take the mrs and the 171W out to get some pics of the two

[@turbogears900]

Make a video like this on the toyota aristo jzs161 jzs147

[@AdamLetter]

I like that idea

[@goldmartijn]

grs184!

[@AdamLetter]

There is alot.of love for the little brother crown aye

[@jaygarden7104]

thoughts on a grs204?

[@ollie786]

They are amazing cars

[@AdamLetter]

They are really nice but I feel like they aren't exactly moving like buying and selling as much. Maybe people buy them and love them so much they don't sell haha

[@GhostAES]

@@AdamLetter they are getting more popular in the UK bow because of how much car they are for money but you are right when people have them they don't sell haha

[@mactaggart7854]

I have a grs184 athlete in nz. Thinking of a 1uz from Osaka. She already sits nice on lorinser 19in rims. Just trying to find anything is so hard, like bodykits. Any suggestions?

[@AdamLetter]

I find either yahoo Japan or direct to Bodykit companies but shipping is gonna be very expensive. That's why I always suggest getting these cars with kits already just coz they aren't readily available locally

[@mactaggart7854]

@Adam Letter have you used yahoo much yourself? No hidden surprises?

[@AdamLetter]

@@mactaggart7854 personally no any stuff I got from Japan was through Jesse Streeter

[@TheVanillaReport]

I have no idea what car youre even talking about lol, i go by athlete, crown royal and majesta.

[@AdamLetter]

👍

[@AdamLetter]

I guess I just like being very specific

[@Ppnugget6942]

I have a question is 20k usd expensive for 2005 mediocre condition

[@AdamLetter]

Yes I would say so I paid 16500 AUD for mine in almost perfect condition with mods and mine 2004

[@Ppnugget6942]

@@AdamLetter nice the crown is reliable and way better than mercedes competitor

[@Ppnugget6942]

@@AdamLetter they are saying like 28k that's too expensive

[@AdamLetter]

@@Ppnugget6942 show them mine and tell them it was 10k USD on road haha

[@Ppnugget6942]

@@AdamLetter I live in Pakistan lol

[@linyanaung461]

I have a question about the toyota crown. I have a 2004 crown and I was trying to do donuts and the TRC control keep beeping. How do I turn it off compeletly?

[@AdamLetter]

Think you have to pull the relay

[@linyanaung461]

@@AdamLetter I cant find it

[@tatidobson1353]

Left top corner engine bay theres a wee black box unclip the lid and it's a green relay ABS/ traction

[@baysgalantpurewchuluun7802]

grs 214 athlete 3.5cc fcking good 👍

[@marcelinomadkarja1864]

Mark x premium 3.5 liter v6 is the best

[@AdamLetter]

Bold statement, but I like that U have your opinion and you stand by it 🙂

[@stefanobernardo9761]

You really cannot beat the bang for buck of the Mark X. In Canada we can import these for 6,000 CAD all in! And im talking 80,000km or less

[@gazaspartan2460]

Toyota crown,V8,4.4,l

[@brianpearson8782]

Be great for Uber?

[@brycestrandt8224]

@@stefanobernardo9761where do you buy from I’m in Canada and interested

[@unclelive6918]

2017 GRS214 crown is the best

[@rayalmani3771]

I love my Athlete v 171. 171 on toppp

[@AdamLetter]

Do love a 1jz

[@avikeshprasad612]

What about the GRSX series ?

[@AdamLetter]

Like I said I couldn't cover every model and I never really see them on the market they must not get sold often maybe too good to change hands haha 🤗🤗

[@driftokinawa6217]

GRS182~184 are “Crowns”, 186 is a “Crown Majesta”

[@AdamLetter]

Aaaaactually since 1955 "crowns" have been coming from Toyota and they change and add is different models under the umbrella of crown like majesta or athlete etc so they are all crowns otherwise it would be a toyota majesta not a Toyota crown majesta. 😉

[@airplanemode870]

MAJESTA 2004-2007 Is at the top ifykyk

[@unclelive6918]

Poor man crown ,

[@justice4g]

what year(s) lets you change language to English?

[@AdamLetter]

I think most but not the 186 model

[@josh2067]

Only S210's and above pretty sure

[@ELROY-y3e]

Ad least you could've been showing the pics of each item your talking about daah!

[@AdamLetter]

Hah ok

[@miraclemansgarage5647]

there all good in there own right!! never disrespect a crown no matter what it is... ps. ms123 is the king 😅

[@AdamLetter]

I feel like maybe U didn't watch the video haha

[@miraclemansgarage5647]

@@AdamLetter I watched it and all I saw was a quick show reel of 3 crowns with some wiki specs then a long waffle about them with no pics for reference just a long haired guys acting like he's owned all 3 😁

[@AdamLetter]

@@miraclemansgarage5647 thanks for the comment the algorithm loves them

[@miraclemansgarage5647]

@@AdamLetter again the algorithm doesn't work as well as you think, content matters and if you want to grow your channel I suggest doing car showcases ie. Driving the actual car of subject and or doing a full rundown of the vehicle mods, specs ect. 👍👍

[@miraclemansgarage5647]

also never buy a half finished project.... unless you understand the risks involved

[@AdamLetter]

Buying a half finished project is literally all about knowing the risks

[@miraclemansgarage5647]

@@AdamLetter yes so we both agree 👍

[@anka774]

This guys don't know about crown best crown is gbs12 people called DIPLOMAT crown

[@AdamLetter]

Hahaha man's got jokes hahahaha 😆

[@miladwolfster4309]

And the 2006 Athlete

[@AdamLetter]

slammed on some silly wheels im with ya

[@laisonolsen8799]

What about a v6 crown? They like 500-5000$

[@AdamLetter]

Not in Australia they aren't

[@justinrogers3690]

Cheapest jz is the is300

[@AdamLetter]

Technically yes but it's the skinny rob na vvti 2jz so it's literally the worst one but I'll probably buy one anyway hahaha

[@justinrogers3690]

@@AdamLetter it’s actually a better option if your going to build it cuz u have to upgrade all the same shit as you would on a gte if your looking for 400+ hp and there’s nothing bad about vvti

[@AdamLetter]

@@justinrogers3690 gte you don't need to upgrade anything in the bottom end up to like 700. BUT I agree if you were after huge numbers. And tbh a bottom end kit good for 900 is like 3500 so still cheaper option than buying a gte. Is300 - 8kaud plus 5k motor building and 5k turbo and ecu you got alot of cheap power. But again noo E with a 2j is doing a bottom end rebuild for 4-600hp it's wasted money.

[@justinrogers3690]

@@AdamLetter yeah the kit I’m doing is 4k and it’s good for 800 hp then I just need to do the turbo kit and the small shit so no need to buy a gte for a sick 2j street car all you need is a ge it can achieve the same as a gte can for the same money considering gte cost so much for a stock one

[@AdamLetter]

@@justinrogers3690 absolutely the prices for a gte are just silly now

[@kingshezz6931]

What’s the difference between an athlete 184 and 204?

[@AdamLetter]

@@kingshezz6931 not sure sorry I havent really delved into those I'm more of a jz/V8 crown fan myself

[@batman4379]

I run a urs206 daily in qld, and it’s definitely as you said how you drive it as far as fuel consumption, beautiful in every aspect, all crowns are, I think you’ve hit the nail in the head with this one 🤙🏼 finding it tricky to source the air controller and harness atm, apparently there’s a trade bad coming from Japan idk how true that is but as a daily family vehicle all crowns are spot on

[@AdamLetter]

🤗🤗 People like to make up stuff about trade all the time, try croober or hit up Jesse Streeter for the controller if you can't find one I'm sure he will know where to get one

[@skrt368]

Hey brother I'm just about to buy a urs206 2011 does the infotainment system come with audio Bluetooth functionality or just phone calls? I'm struggling to find much information if I need to install a Bluetooth module when I get the car. Thanks bro

[@batman4379]

@@skrt368 it’s all audio and phones connectivity. There’s a guid of how to connect your phone to phone and audio on you tube

[@marclindbom9806]

Haha I've just come from a very nice v35 to a 206......and I regret nothing. I've gone from "Is that a skyline?" to "Holy shit I didnt think these things existed anymore".....plus now in a straight line it is a beast of a car without all the screaming exhaust.

[@GhostRider03]

I have a 3L GRS182 athlete. I love it but I wouldn’t mind a majesta. There just wasn’t a lot around when I got my athlete but she does me well

[@mactaggart7854]

Love the athlete

[@Americanpatriot112]

Mileage?

[@caffeinefix2751]

GWS204 is king and I just bought one !

[@YoungKidNative]

I just bought a 2007 Toyota Crown Athlete/60th Anniversary with 83,500km for $13,000 CAD. It has a 2GR-FSE 3.5L V6 Engine (The Engine is clean). When I picked it up, it was and still is in mint condition. Full leather interior which is in great condition. I'm so so glad I got an import versus going to a dealership paying 30k plus and being ripped off!

[@AdamLetter]

Gotta save money where we can aye

[@LinLakMonThainkha]

toyota is the best my favourite toyota cars are toyota crown and toyota wish

[@jayzah]

Would love me a 171 unfortunately prices have gone up a bit here in nz, feel like im better off getting a 161 aristo to get into a jz for similar price

[@Zizlak]

The same thing is happening here in aus regarding prices of 171 & 161 👎

[@ameraboukoura6091]

I love Toyota crowns as a person who lives in the states, I’m so tired of seeing a million Camrys and they’re boring Wish the government would let me import one

[@AdamLetter]

Soon they will then the prices will sky rocket haha

[@dilvinders1]

Hello you mention the 1UZ is better than the 3UZ. Why is that then?

[@AdamLetter]

They have .5mm thinner cylinder liners than the 1uz which in stock form or under 500hp kinda power range is all good but if you want to get some big power number those thinner cylinder liners will fail before the thicker 1uz ones. But apart from that they are pretty much identical. So the 1uz is "better" but ever so slightly coz it's stronger ever so slightly 🤗

[@dilvinders1]

@@AdamLetter ok also the 1UZ is non interference I believe.

[@AdamLetter]

@@dilvinders1 the non vvti version is yup 🤗

[@Jezza_C_WT]

I'd love an Athlete V wagon AND an S200 Majesta. 🤤

[@jackmcnally3369]

i love my ms135, i think the 8th gen is the best looking in my opinion

[@johnnyn21]

Coming from the Supra community: totally agree with the sentiments at the end of your video. Also dailying a Toyota Century (family car) atm which made me laugh about dreading dailying a V8. Everything is about perspective. I'm considering a Crown as a replacement seeing as parts for Century are hard to come by. So thanks for this video.

[@AdamLetter]

Legend

[@saifullah-cf6op]

2012 is my favourite 3.5cc

[@anchor3435]

In my opinion both the 2001 majesta and athlete V are the best

[@michealewk]

Adam really thinking of a crown like the older boxy versions but I have one question would ypu choose a crown over the lexus equivalent

[@AdamLetter]

Depends, if you are getting the exact same car I would buy what ever is cheaper coz why spend money on a badge but if there are slight differences and one is better for same price I would buy the better one

[@michealewk]

Thanks man now to get looking for one

[@TwistedAnkles]

Hey there, great video. I have a JDM crown Majesta in Canada and can’t find a wiring diagram. Where can I find info on this car?

[@AdamLetter]

Search in Google "uzs186 parts" and one of the first searches will give you an exploded view of every part and hopefully have links to wiring but I don't envy you there is alot of wiring in there whatever job your doing better be worth it haha

[@TwistedAnkles]

@@AdamLetter thanks! Bought this as a project that someone jump started backwards and fried some stuff. Having a hard time finding diagrams and parts for this car!

[@elpadrino8350]

S180 S186 C-type F package 👌🏽🔥🔥