Which video does Hank Green most regret? | Sofa Science interview

[@masonacevedo1132]

Hank mentioned that he experiences a very slight hesitation when he sees women talking about science, because he's so accustomed to seeing men talk about science. I'm 24, and SciShow was very formative in my middle-school years. I don't experience that hesitation at all because SciShow featured so many smart women talking in-depth about science!

[@aspidoscelis]

I'm 42, and I think most of the sciency people I know or admire are women. And, yeah, mostly on youtube-SciShow included, though I haven't been watching it much in the last couple of years. I wonder if 'men talking about science' is still a mainstream media thing (I don't really interact with mainstream media, so I don't know what they're doing), or if it's just a historical stereotype at this point.

[@ten-hx2xi]

ive noticed a similar thing, i think its cause most of my good teachers were women

[@jennifer7685]

It’s great that he acknowledges it. It’s a real reaction. it’s embarrassing, but it happens. What matters is what we do after we realize we have a bias.

[@Nefi424]

"I've never let anyone go without crying" Man, I wish I'd ever have a boss this empathetic.

[@that1monk]

i love hank green so much, it's slightly painful. he and his brother remind me of the safety i felt as a child with mr. rogers.

[@ollieschantz4089]

I've grown up watching Vlogbrothers and that is exactly it.

[@ricardoaldecoa7522]

Same :c

[@margicates553]

He lives in my hometown and I once saw him at the grocery store. I kind of ducked and freaked out I cried when I got home.

[@Avalonanon]

Weird comment

[@Aethelhadas]

@@Avalonanon have you never looked up to someone

[@nomatophobia]

hank having the "tell us about yourself" panic at the beginning lol

[@d25102]

im watching this waiting on the results of an interview and that was literally me an hour ago 😭

[@nomatophobia]

@@d25102 good luck!

[@extremelynormalperson]

​@@d25102how did the interview go?

[@kindauncool]

+@@extremelynormalperson also curious!

[@toastypuffgoodness]

Revisiting this in the time of Tik Tok Hank. It's interesting that he wanted to do personal content more, I think Tik tok really gave him the ability to bring more Hank into his online persona.

[@3rkid]

Hank is probably like the most emotionally intelligent and self-aware person I can think of. I strive for that.

[@rubidot]

I just realized that Complexly is a significant reason that it seems completely normal to me to see women talk about science.

[@bethtittl6926]

I came for Hank, but will come back for the thoughtful, interesting interview questions asked by Sally! I knew she looked familiar but could not put my finger on why until they mentioned the SciShow Quiz Show that she was on. Although I have followed Hank and John though most of their online careers, Sally still brought out details that I had never known (and then some that I was happy to remember!) Hank, you are a great example for so many people. I appreciate all that you have done. Can't wait until I have time to watch the episode with Caitlin!!

[@lunaskisses]

hi! did you ever check back in on this person's channel?

[@MelissaThompson432]

Imagine, now, being fired by Hank Green.... 1) he didn't want to do it, and it upset him because you're important to him. 2) YOU MADE HANK GREEN CRY!!!

[@skarrambo1]

I like that you worry about your shows not having really changed format wise, especially regarding Crash Course and SciShow. I think that shows you care about it, a lot. I think Crash Course, akin to Kurzgesagt, is timeless as it is clearly its own thing. I do wonder about the future of SciShow though, because while the current format is good, I think new approaches are very much needed in that kind of content - hence, like you said, why The Verge Science is so appealing right now.

[@Claire-tk4do]

She is SUCH a good interviewer!!!

[@christinarsavage]

I am a big vlogbrothers/etc fan, ad thought this was a great interview. I was disappointed by the comment by Hank, that there has to be a certain level of attractiveness in the hosts that they hire for shows, the reason being so the audience isn't overly distracted by how the host looks and focuses better on the science. I think Hank has an incredible opportunity to help alter our perceptions of what scientists look like. As a disabled scientist who has faced discrimination in the workplace based on my appearance, I hope that Hank will consider that he has an opportunity to demonstrate that scientists and experts can look like everyone.

[@Encysted]

I wonder if he felt that learning about the scientific process and mindset would naturally lead people to question their own prejudices. Like you, though, I worry that it instead builds up biases in people who might participate in the field.

[@MadeinHell2]

I agree with your general sentiment that host shouldn't be picked based on their appearance, and perhaps it would be worthwhile to hire hosts who would otherwise be discriminated against because of their appearance. It's awful that something as shallow as that, is a factor that even merits consideration in science education videos. However, the reality of the situation is that sci-show and shows like it represent actual scientific education to a small fraction of their viewer base. For a whole lot of other people who watch it, it's' basically "intellectual fast food". I don't say that to demean sci-show, but it's frequently consumed as entertainment, not a tool for education. Because of that there is a vocal subset of the viewerbase who get very vocal and unpleasant about the appearance of hosts. From what they're wearing, to their speech mannerisms. I don't recall the names of hosts but the woman with a nose ring and vocal fry was a target of ridiculous internet outrage for YEARS on sci-show. And I don't know if she still hosts because of it (I certainly hope she does). The issue this presents is that this group uses the dislike button out of spite, they leave mean spirited comments and do a variety of other unpleasant things (including off youtube harassment). Not only does this make life hellish for the hosts, but it also negatively impacts the performance of the videos. That means that not only does sci-show make less money off them, but also that ultimately fewer people who could be educated by the videos end up seeing them. I wish it wasn't this way, but it unfortunately is.

[@phosphenevision]

I just feel like I have to point that a KZbin channel host isn’t necessarily a scientist and being a host of a yt channel as a job is a lot more like being an actor than being a scientist, so I wouldn’t say appearance being a factor is discrimination like it would be in a job where your whole job isn’t being the face and voice of something, basically. There certainly should be no reason to choose, like, a lab technician based on appearance or a any other job like it.

[@lijohnyoutube101]

Also to add to other comments sadly there are people that suffer from things like basic hygiene standards and may be unkempt, very bad acne and rash breakouts,, holes in clothing, greasy hair etc

[@mayaenglish5424]

You completely misunderstood what he said. He didn't endorse that viewpoint, he said that that is how a lot of the world works and he hates it. Not to be rude to any particular scishow host but they are NOT all supermodels lol. And there are Men, Women and inbetween of all walks of life working as hosts.

[@squish7073]

Ignorance is a privilege and thank goodness for people like Hank Green for using his talent, abilities, privileges and heart to make others aware! This is what the world needs more of and less people that rather “escape”.

[@maddiemoate]

Loved this guys, so nice to chill and listen to!

[@adityakhanna113]

Yessss

[@ThePrimevalVoid]

The definition of success on KZbin coming from a science KZbinr seemed really interesting to me, since I really haven't heard anything this pragmatic before on KZbin when someone is asked that question. This is the second Sofa Science I've watched apart from the one with Simon Clark, but I'll be sure to watch all of your videos. Biology isn't my most favourite subject, but I can't wait to watch all of your videos. Thanks for the amazing #content

[@ValeriePallaoro]

Got to here (Le Page de Sally; phd/steely-eyed, language buff) from Scishow quiz show and now ... this. I could not be more pleased with "Hank Green Internet sensation" as seen through the questions on the sofa. Profound socio/cultural insight, business acumen and introspective awareness. Nice one. So very very nice. (Anyone else think Mr Green chooses the best sox?? Just saying ... )

[@mayaenglish5424]

One might even say his socks are... Awesome?!

[@octoberdawn1087]

He is a gift! We homeschool super laid back.. he keeps us in the state standards

[@SpartanAegis]

CrashCourse has helped me countless times. Thank you John & Hank you're both awesome. Thank you Sally for making science awesome and fun. May I recommend a Sofa Science with Michael Stevens (Vsauce)?

[@ZulqarnainAidil]

This is appearing on my feed again after so many years. I have been blessed by the Algorithm

[@burpie3258]

😎

[@1me3]

Very professional non professional video

[@SallyLePage]

I am genuinely worried this will raise people's expectations of Sofa Science production quality!

[@1me3]

Sally Le Page season 2 live audience may be? :p

[@BlueScreenCorp]

Wait this joke on Sad Boyz goes so deep

[@crystaldragon8211]

I can't tell how much I loved Hank but even more now. What a genuinely good person. It was my daughter who introduced me to him and his bro back in the day and , of course, she's a huge fan as well. Thanks for all you do Hank! =D

[@DasGrinch]

I'm glad I clicked on that video about bananas and subscribed to your channel, there's some great content. And I think while Hank (and John) may have sought power, they use it to make the world a less dark place, and I think that shows they deserve to have it.

[@peergynt3008]

Not to put him on a pedestal, but Hank is a good example of what kind of human to be. Who is allowed to make cringey videos about nerd crushes and then realize they were cringey and take them down.

[@thequantaleaper]

Before Bill Nye??? It came out the year after Beakman's World lol. Im 40+ and remember both. And Mr. Wizard.

[@FirstNameBunchANumbers]

He just meant that he was out of the target demographic for Bill Nye once it came out! I had a second of thinking the same thing, but he just meant that Beekman was more popular when he was a kid and Bill Nye became popular with kids a little younger than him

[@thequantaleaper]

@FirstNameBunchANumbers good point, I see what you mean. I'm a couple years younger than Hank, so I get it.

[@confusedwhale]

Beakman and Bill Nye ran concurrently just on different networks, and which ever one you liked more would be the one you'd pick to watch... Though, you could also switch channels during commercials when they were in the same time slot (I think they were slightly different sometimes).

[@mebibyte9347]

This is amazing. Thank you for sharing this fantastic interview

[@stevensines7026]

In four years, I hope I'm not the only person to notice Hank's pizzamas socks. Look closely and you will see pepperoni and cheese.

[@TheDangerousWonder]

Amazing

[@StefanHayden]

this was suuuch a good interview! what amazing questions!

[@stephanierichards150]

I came here for the Hank and am subbing for the Sally. Thanks for giving me another long-form channel to watch!

[@bonnie5076]

It's 11pm and I'm definitely going to fall asleep during this but that's okay I will definitely listen in later

[@jasperh6618]

That was really nice, I loved watching and hearing this :3

[@dhart1951]

First impression: How relaxed Sally seems now. Is this a side effect of completing one journey, or the side effect of beginning another?

[@xela8384]

I've watched a lot of my friends earn PhDs, and "relaxed" is generally a good description of their post-viva state.

[@sjbethke]

Anyone else looking at Hank's socks and hoping that they are the next socks coming through the Awesome Sock Club?!?!

[@simon5007]

Ooooh! It's Sofa Science again! I've missed this!

[@TheNightwalker247]

I love sci show. The format is perfect.

[@islandsedition]

I only know Beakman from his appearance on Captain Dissolution. Must have been a wild show.

[@saraknox1631]

I loved Beakman's World! And Josie was my first crush!

[@Norsilca]

Omg Beakman's World! I never hear anyone repping them! This whole time as everyone's been all about Bill Nye I'm over here like "oh haha yeah man 'member him?" secretly being a Beakman's kid

[@nathanaelcard]

Woah Beakman's World! I'd totally forgotten that show. Very MST3K vibes but science education

[@cannibalbananas]

I loved Beekman. Watched it as often as I could.

[@StefanHayden]

love all the business questions!

[@cynthiaaitnys4569]

Awesome video! Great questions!

[@therabbithat]

They had beatman in the UK, he was on TCC. Excellent show

[@stephenmaher4690]

42:00 Tom Scott, VSauce and a few others aren't really VO, but I guess the majority are

[@dosesandmimoses]

Crash course is amazing

[@Avvylynne]

Michael Crichton change the direction of my scientific career

[@DCaseyTucker]

I also grew up more with Breakman's World than with Bill Nye.

[@kendracaruso4161]

I loved Beakman’s World too!

[@hjpatterson]

I was in performance for 34 years, mostly live theatre but a lot of TV and one big film in which my troupe were a small but constant character. The way "talent" was used was, indeed, ironic and dismissive - like, cameramen are important, grips, gaffers, continuity, director, props, art, set dressing, all crucial - and way, way, way down at the end of the list, the least important part of production, the thing you point the camera at for a minute. "Okay, everybody's ready to go, let's get the "talent" in here...

[@Narbaculus]

I can't believe you didn't start with, "Who the eff are you?"

[@milicakrunic4898]

+++

[@squarepeg9546]

Woah! I watched Beakman’s world, too!! Loved it

[@SylviaRustyFae]

TIL Sally also loves woodturnin vids; theyre such grt background vids for helpin me focus :3

[@xrockangelx]

I just finished acclimating to curly-haired Hank, so now it's interesting to watch flat-hair Hank.

[@GuySperry]

I want to know those Twitter follows too! How can we get a list?

[@bcohen992]

Vote Hank Green for President. Seriously.

[@KevinHorton-e4u]

Thanx 4 this

[@obsidian_Ke]

A-maize-ing content...I had to like and subscribe....

[@thelastcube.]

i wanna grow up to be like hank green

[@chloe.d178]

I appreciate the aggressive nonsexualness. I have a lot of trauma with men and truthfully Hank Green is healing to me. He has curated a safe, comfy, accepting, accessible place to learn no matter who you are. I have a ton of respect for him and the work he does. And I appreciate it greatly.

[@MakeBrooklyn]

lol..... I have only one question after watching that, what is it that pimple popping and wood turning have in common?? I am so confused and I now fear for my sanity ;)

[@Chomuggaacapri]

You know... ; )

[@Hmm...Whats-Their-Name]

24:38 jesus h christ I wish more bosses thought about this

[@Hmm...Whats-Their-Name]

26:35 the awkward pivot back to what I guess they were supposed to he talking about... jfc poor thing

[@rebekahosgoodadventures7435]

"video on anti-vaxx"- how relevant in 2021.

[@trikepilot101]

I remember Beakman!

[@freeNode5]

yes!!! Beacman was the BEST show!

[@c1h2r3i4s56987]

4:00 mins in and dam What an incredibly Difficult burden hank has placed on himself, It's beyond me

[@briefisbest]

I loved Beakman's World!

[@TaunellE]

I have loved Hank for years. Fiesty, intense nerds really are the best. 🍌💙

[@simoneml]

SHARK SHARK SHARK SHARK SHARK SHARK SHARK =D

[@ReissTube]

Shout out to Beakman’s World!

[@peergynt3008]

prettily

[@SdjdidjeuDidjdjdkkd]

Sorry Mrs Hank Green 😢

[@rusca8]

Beakman's world was the best.

[@dragonetafireball]

🎙️

[@noahgray9451]

Lol she wants him to stop talking about politics soooooo bad but science IS political

[@eckelmannjakob4610]

hahahahaha What is this title - lmao

[@saschamayer4050]

00:11

[@saschamayer4050]

01:02:00

[@supersmashsam]

I just deleted my rss subscription because I though you weren't doing these anymore! Now I feel ashamed! :p

[@jimtuv]

Wouldn't Democratizing the business help relieve the problems you are having with your employees Hank?

[@josephdestaubin7426]

The Democratic model is absolutely magnificent for tempering change overtime, thus allowing for robusk but malleable Society. Unfortunately, the same strengths become weaknesses when they're Institute across companies. Institutions, even non-profit such as corporations, find that the larger the voting block, the slower the ability that the institution has to react to market forces. Soprema political philosophy of standpoint, democracy is not a panacea in many instances.

[@ThePrimevalVoid]

First?

[@nicolesavitsky4476]

this feels a bit awkward

[@jonm4206]

Fantastic hour interview, but I'm still in favor of getting Hank on Joe Rogan for 3 hours.

[@margicates553]

Hank is too much of a good person to do that. Sorry 🥰

[@jonm4206]

@@margicates553 Do you really think that only bad people go on the show? Like Niel Degrasse Tyson, Russel Brand, Philip Defranco, Elon Musk, Miley Cyrus, Bernie Sanders. Talking to Liberals and Conservatives is the only way anyone these days is going to hear anything the other side has to say. I dont even really remember posting this, but I think today more than ever the world could benefit from some people on the right hearing what Hank has to say, and everyone could benefit from less demonization of people who hold beliefs they disagree with.

[@margicates553]

I think hank would throw up in his mouth at an invitation from joe rogan. There? Does that clarify what I said? Joe rogan is trash.

[@jonm4206]

@@margicates553 I disagree with Rogan on a lot of issues, but he seems like a nice guy who is willing to listen to what people have to say and have a sincere conversation. Not sure if you hate him for his personality or his beliefs, but either way I think his podcast is one of the few places that liberals and conservatives can hear perspectives from the other side unfiltered. Refusing to speak to people you dislike is moving us to a very dangerous place as a society.

[@martijndekok]

28:08 You said it right the first time. It comes from French, so pronounce it like that. Don't lower your standards to US level. People sound like uncultured barbarians when they pronounce words like 'niche' and 'foyer' in this ridiculous manner.

[@oogrooq]

He's a little more full of himself than I thought.

[@robburgess4556]

I love how aware Hank is about retaining his humanity and not becoming the pointy haired boss. I'd love to work for him.

[@evercuriousmichelle]

Yes. So insightful about how feedback and power interact. I wish I could show a clip of this to my boss. If I'm ever a boss, I want to emulate Hank.

[@Wheeze_NL]

Love the Dilbert Reference

[@imaginextramusic5530]

Funny about abduction jokes...

[@h3corptempbutevadinganass]

Best. Boss. Ever. And is it rly a dilbert reference anymore? 🤔 just like my technically "Simpsons" reference, both those have been integrated in society younger people who don't even get the original reference still get the sentiment!:) they've become new "sayings" imho

[@extremelynormalperson]

​@@Wheeze_NLaged poorly lol

[@chriscrowe11]

Just stumbled upon both this video and this channel/podcast, and I cannot believe how much I appreciated the amount of "dead air" in this conversation. Allowing the guest time to actually *consider* questions and be deliberate with their wordchoice was a shocking change of pace to other podcasts I've watched which seem to be allergic to silence. Every time Hank took time to digest a question I realized I would do the same, and that made me really engage with whats being said instead of simply using the conversation as background nosie

[@mossman15]

At about 40 minutes when the host initially disagreed with hank about how long shows last on tv it genuinely caught me off guard that they didnt just back down and agree with him without thought. Thanks for being a person, especially a host, who attempts to speak truth regardless of how its received, even in a small way like this.

[@crazydragy4233]

Indeed, it's very nice for people to actually discuss things they're versed in. I suppose the lack of this is what infuriates me most about those stupid podcast where a bunch of nobodies will chime in agreement on the dumbest shit ever said.

[@chublez]

@@crazydragy4233 Rogan.....

[@tinybadastronaut]

Who is here in 2024 watching this whole thing through the lens from 2020 onwards? 😨

[@burpie3258]

Me!

[@emo6577]

I love that all the thoughtful pauses are left in and that each question meanders wherever it happens to go. I feel like it gives everything a very natural flow

[@char1194]

After Hank recently went on his string of podcasts and interviews I've been binging them like one every few days and I'm embarassed to admit that I didn't realise this video was 4 years old till near the end when I tabbed back in and saw that he still had straight hair, which I realise must be such a bizarre way to tell time

[@IrisGlowingBlue]

Nah, I think going by people's hair style-eras is a decent way to immediately date something (genuinely) p:

[@FuzzyBunnyofInle]

Talking about his chemo perm?

[@heidi64freedom]

Has anyone ever told SciShow? (Probably yes, 'cause it's been so long and so many people work on it) That at least for me, part of why SciShow still attracts me, is that it isn't that much investment of my time. And with so many videos, I can just pick one that I am interested in AT THE MOMENT, but I can always go back for more later? So I am kinda assuming that zooming out from this, aside from the steady viewerships, SciShow is also easier to attract 'come-and-go' viewers, but then would return when something perk their interests again? While other science shows, Crash Course included, requires more of the audience's attention and time, so sooner or later it becomes a little more difficult or something for the audience to follow through? Does anyone else also agree on this? Or am I really just very limited in my science KZbin consumption to observe more about this?

[@Improbabilities]

This is exactly why I watch much more SciShow than Crash Course right now. I’m already learning my new engineering job and finishing up my degree. Adding a full set of online video courses on top of that is just overloading my brain.

[@ianrbuck]

I'm just about the opposite. I only add a channel's RSS feed to my subscriptions if I am invested enough to watch the vast majority of their videos. When I'm watching videos, I go through my subscription feed in chronological order, and if a video doesn't interest me in the moment (or if it's too much of a time commitment like SciShow Talk Show) then I just move on to the next item. If I don't have time in that moment, I probably won't have time later.

[@mobilenotherwise5000]

crash course attracts students, so there will always be a continuous pattern of students studying using it, and graduating and not watching anymore, but there will always be new students attracted to it and the cycle repeats

[@KOKO-uu7yd]

@@Improbabilities I'm SO the same! I **WANT** to learn it ALL (cue pokemon theme song 😆). But time investment isn't just the video time, it's the mental focus and the intellectual "follow through". Along with raising 2 "neuro divergent" kiddos mostly by myself, I myself am ADHD. Continued focus, when you build today's knowledge from what you retained yesterday, and use it for what you learn tomorrow? There's just SO MUCH that interrupts that in me and my life 😂😂😂😂😂

[@KOKO-uu7yd]

You've got another here, that's baisically JUST LIKE THIS. But, I would really LOVE to follow crash course and sometimes try even. But.... life. Ya'know? 🤷‍♀️🥴

[@verdatum]

I massively appreciate you taking the time dividing this into chapters. I was a bit apprehensive clicking this based on the title alone, but the chapters explain what this is about, and it turned out that the content is much more friendly than I expected. I spent a fair bit of time video chatting with Hank a few years ago as a happy SciShow Patreon supporter, and it is simultaneously surprising and not at all surprising how many questions we had in common for him.

[@ryancostello8670]

Sally, I'm so happy that you're getting more into KZbin. I've been watching (and loving) your videos for over a year and can't wait for more quality content!

[@JasmineTea8]

Hi! I'm a Japanese student at the university. I'm always wondering how people who are not in science major in England think about science communicator. In my country, I think there are not enough scientist who can connect the people who haven't studied science much with scientists. And so we should have more science bridge communicators. As a scientist, how do you think about this problem in England?

[@dawn8293]

American (not from England) here. In general people think that science communicators have an obligation to really understand the science, so there's some stigma against science communicators who have not been formally educated in science.

[@singerofsongs468]

Hi! This is an old comment, but I wanted to respond with my experience as an American university student. I agree with you that there aren’t many scientists who communicate well, and I love that you’re thinking about this too, even from the other side of the world from me. If we both become scientists, we’ll both learn to connect with people who don’t know what we do and don’t study much science. Best of luck!!

[@sr.marnekara3304]

With Applied science.

[@a.bookmonkey6790]

i love being reminded how much of a nerd hank really is

[@rebeccavantassell4646]

I absolutely appreciate hearing that you cry when you have to fire people. That's something I've never been able to get over as a business owner.

[@wangless]

It will be weird to see kids where their entire lives have been documented and archived in digital media online for strangers to see. Good reason not to put your kids in the content, Hank.

[@Kelly_C]

additionally his kid is way too young to give informed consent on whether or not he wants be shown to anybody, much less millions of strangers, on the internet

[@crazydragy4233]

@@Kelly_C Exactly... sadly kids are often seen as pets or even worse... things by parents :/

[@AleshaM30]

Hank's socks just tying the whole room together.

[@11thNite]

Pimple popping and wood turning. Sally and Hank out here predicting two wildly popular categories of TikTok videos two years ago

[@lizardchild2004]

The irony of zeroing in on this one aspect that he specifically tries to avoid in order to keep the content pure, and making a video title out of it!! 😂 Despite the clickbait, great interview.