JK Simmons absolutely deserves the Oscar he got from this performance. Nobody else even came close that year.
@spencerwattamaniuk9503 ай бұрын
Nope. There was a stat where he won some 40+ awards for this performance, basically every major award platform awarded him. You never see that sort of consensus, ESPECIALLY from a small indie movie that had like 2 million dollar budget lol.
@davidthe62702 ай бұрын
He was born for this part. Legend!!!!
@mikes64572 ай бұрын
Good ol Vern Schillinger made good!
@PerfectHandProductions4 күн бұрын
I thought Gyllenhaal was better in Nightcrawler.
@Icemann3834 ай бұрын
One of my favorite endings of all time. The first time I watched it I thought it was a triumph, but then upon rewatch, I realized it was actually tragic. That Andrew had gotten what he wanted, but at the cost of losing a piece of himself to the obsession, and that he wanted to be part of this toxic relationship with Fletcher because he believed it was the way. It was set up in the scene before when Andrew meets Fletcher at the jazz bar and it’s akin to someone going back to an abusive relationship. He just can’t help himself. Edit: also to answer your question, Miles Teller had been a drummer prior to filming the movie. He had been in a rock band in high school. Though he had to learn jazz drumming techniques for the movie
@Zombie_Trooper4 ай бұрын
Same experience here. It truly set with me a year or so later when I found myself in a similar situation. I was accomplishing all my goals, but wasn't remotely happy with everything I was giving up.
@rynefox73664 ай бұрын
I don’t disagree with your analysis as most people seem to have the same idea. But it’s kind of interesting that we can watch sports or military movies with much of the same behavior coming from the authority but we don’t call it out. Only for the art film haha. For example, Tom Hanks’ character in A League of Their Own was super abusive. Almost worse in that he wasn’t even trying to mold anyone into a great player, was just content to booze it out in the dugout. Then they started winning games and suddenly he’s interested. Mickey treated Rocky like absolute garbage and pretty much threw him away until Rocky got his lucky shot and then Mickey came begging at Rocky’s door to be his manager. These characters seem to be largely motivated by self interest and definitely show abuse but we love them, even hold them in high regard. We believe that they even make our heroes better by their actions. But “Oh No! Fletcher is evil, look at how he leads Andrew down the dark path!” To be honest, while I don’t necessarily disagree with your analysis, I don’t know if I agree with it either. At the very least, perhaps it’s both a tragedy and a triumph.
@Zombie_Trooper4 ай бұрын
@@rynefox7366 That's true, HOWEVER it also comes down to risk vs reward. Rocky, A League of Their Own, etc, all function differently because these characters are ultimately good people doing everything to get the best out of their pupils. Fletcher isn't a good person, the film goes out of its way to establish that. And in the end those other characters still have arcs and development. Fletcher doesn't. Rocky and the rest wanted to accomplish goals within reason, but Andrew just wants to shine bright and fizzle out if need be. Methods aside, the outcomes are far more rootable in those other films.
@chrysio74 ай бұрын
It is tragic but that's just how it is with a lot of great musicians. And let's just ignore toxic relationship from this movie in this example that I'm about to talk about because not every musician goes through that. They do all cut a piece of themselves for the greatness but a lot of them don't actually regret it. For example, I listen to classical music a lot, especially classical piano music and I watched a lot of documentaries on basically the greatest pianists ever and the truth is they just want to play piano more than anything else in life. They would rather cut everything and everyone else from life than stop playing. Some of them are in terrible, actually non existent relationships with their families, parents, children because they are just always absent. The highest level of passion and obsession is literally keeping them away from people and they are just okay with that, okay with sacrifices in life because playing the piano is more important to them. It's the most important thing in their lives. A lot of greats are like that, especially in jazz and classical.
@Buckaroo_Banzai474 ай бұрын
@@chrysio7Yeah, I believe that's the overall message here. Life in general is full of tragedy and choices that aren't always very clear. Even though his dad supported him in some ways, he didn't really seem to have a lot of faith in his music career. I think this shows how a lot of times people won't understand the passion you might have to follow your dreams. It's up to you to make these decisions and go through the hardships. I think people look at the end as something negative, but I think it's purposefully ambiguous. Although you probably don't want to see Fletcher ultimately "win," Neiman won't have to feel like it was all for nothing. He finally reached success in the most unlikely circumstance with everyone there to witness it.
@jamaljames93314 ай бұрын
20:55 When Fletcher gets upset about Sean Casey's death, I don't believe that he cared about him as a person but he was more so devastated by the fact that someone he considered his best product died before he could reach his full potential as his "Charlie Parker." The same potential he sees in Andrew! Fletcher is just too narcissistic and broken inside to realize his methods are flawed, and needs to keep believing that the abuse he puts people through is the one and only way to achieve greatness! And if you can't handle it, you're just not good enough and don't have what it takes. Not once does he ever self-reflect on his actions, and wonders "maybe I was wrong." but instead goes more psychotic and started pushing Andrew even harder.
@grandpallama4 ай бұрын
Yep. Sean represented an accomplishment for Fletcher--"I trained the greatest!"
@Penguin-wm7cf8 күн бұрын
I think there's room to believe that Fletcher could have cared to some degree about Sean Casey the person. We don't know enough about their relationship to assume. It could be argued that, hypothetically, Fletcher quite liked Sean Casey BECAUSE he was such a good musician. Of course, he's probably very adamant that it was him who 'made' Sean that good through his methods. However I am being very pedantic with that observation. From a filmmaking perspective I'd have to say that, yes, his grief over his death may be for more narcissistic reasons than anything else.
@shainewhite27814 ай бұрын
4:11, he actually got into a car accident when he was 17 years old, and those scars on his face are a permanent reminder of how lucky he was to survive.
@jbacunn4 ай бұрын
The car flipped 8 times! It's a miracle he survived.
@Jordashian934 ай бұрын
Man, what a movie. J.K. Simmons has some serious range. His character is incredibly intimidating but also electrifying
@shainewhite27814 ай бұрын
JK Simmons took home the Oscar for Best Supporting Actor for his role in the movie!
@CgGoil4 ай бұрын
One of the Oscars that was very well deserved.
@EyeTunz4 ай бұрын
For what? Best bully in a ridiculous movie?
@xevious214 ай бұрын
@EyeTunz An actor doesn't have to play a likable character to put in an award winning performance.
@BarryHart-xo1oy4 ай бұрын
Good to know.
@jesseowenvillamor63483 ай бұрын
@EyeTunz what's wrong with you?!
@Fidel_L.Bousquet19704 ай бұрын
"Psychological warfare" is a really good way to describe this movie. There are comfort movies, and then "discomfort movies" like this one.
@Cagon4154 ай бұрын
The slow look of horror on his father's face was perfect. His son is fully consumed.
@samanthanickson64784 ай бұрын
horror, or awe? see, i thought that his father was supportive of his son, but only on the surface. he lowkey thought andrew was pathetic in his life choices, but couldn’t bare to tell him he was wasting his time - except when the nut-busting overly superior family members were around. then dear old dad just joined right on in with them talking against andrew. when he saw him play at the end, i thought his expression was more of, “hey, you don’t suck. matter of fact you’re really spectacular, and i never knew.” dad was too accepting of mediocrity to recognize greatness in his own son. until he was forced to.
@jasmineoldham29894 ай бұрын
I think in a way Andrew became a version of Fletcher, he became a perfectionist and his belittling of those around him for his dream. The tragedy is him becoming great but a great cost.
@applegeepedigree4 ай бұрын
Right. Andrew is torching every single relationship he has for this plan to be great. His family, his girlfriend, even his fellow musicians whom he shares this passion with he views as competition. Fletcher is the only relationship he leaves himself with because he views it as useful and validates his climbing of Everest.
@Bringmethehorizondude4 ай бұрын
It’s one of the most divisive endings ever. In his triumph, he basically sold his soul. But it was worth it to him. That’s the point. He even says at the dinner earlier in the film, he’d rather be dead and remembered at thirty than die old as someone who never achieved everything he wanted. Fletcher wasn’t correct in his methods, but he was the push Andrew ultimately thirsted for.
@markcreemore49154 ай бұрын
This movie turned me into a huge jazz fan. I went from having zero jazz albums in my collection to having over 260 jazz albums since i watched it. It just opened my eyes to a great genre i had overlooked til then.
@HappyHarryHardon4 ай бұрын
Be an uber nerd and watch the competitions live.
@markcreemore49154 ай бұрын
@@HappyHarryHardon Which competitions? Like the one in the movie? That would be great, how do I get to them? KZbin?
@MessOfThings4 ай бұрын
@@markcreemore4915you could probably start by looking at the schedule of your local college
@EyeTunz4 ай бұрын
Well at least something positive came of this awful movie. That's pretty cool.
@markcreemore49154 ай бұрын
@@EyeTunz You must be an outraged music teacher. 😄
@wiredbagatthisworst4 ай бұрын
45:01, This movie Is always compared to Black Swan, the comparison is deserved and both crazy in his own way. I recommend Requiem for a Dream for a even crazier experience than those ones. Great content as always
@chadwickvon80194 ай бұрын
No power for going on 3 days because of the hurricane. I needed this video more than y'all know.
@peteparker224 ай бұрын
Damn sorry to hear that. I live in Florida so I feel your pain
@xXDiGiTaLBaThXx4 ай бұрын
I hope all is well and that your power is restored soon. My power was out Monday from the hurricane. It really sucks
@TBRSchmitt4 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear that! Hope you’re staying safe
@BarryHart-xo1oy4 ай бұрын
I hope things get better for you.
@havok62804 ай бұрын
The end of the movie was a tragedy not a triumph. In the end, Fletcher was vindicated. All the abuse made Andrew great. The look on Paul Reiser's face says it all.
@Russelshackleford4 ай бұрын
So many people miss that quick, subtle look of a father realizing he’s losing his son, it was an under appreciated performance.
@peteparker224 ай бұрын
I always interpreted that look like he was amazed and surprised by how great his son was
@lanestapp24 ай бұрын
No it doesn't. There is zero reason to think that he couldn't have become great if he was taught in a rational way.
@peteparker224 ай бұрын
It was also less that Fletcher was vindicated and more that Andrew won the psychological battle they had been engaged in
@jackgreenway46794 ай бұрын
@@peteparker22it could be interpreted as both. He could be proud of the skill his son has that he didn’t fully understand. But hate how he got there from how fletcher treated him. The ending does vindicate Fletcher. In my opinion one thing that to men makes this movie great is the many interpretations of the end.
@stsolomon6184 ай бұрын
The movie is based on the short film, and Jk Simmons played the same role in it as well. Miles Teller used to play drums
@MarcoMM14 ай бұрын
This movie is epic, this movie certainly had its fair share of stand-in and filmmaking magic at its disposal, Miles Teller and J.K. Simmons’s respective musical background ensured that their characters’ talents were well-realized as far as their musical talent was concerned. Teller had been playing drums since he was 15 and took on additional classes before filming to sell Andrew’s sublime skill on screen. Simmons on the other hand has a musical degree and played piano in the past and was able to sink into his role after a bit of practice before filming began. While the movie is not an exact carbon copy of the 2013 short film that inspired it, there is one line of dialogue that made its way into the big screen that surprised one of its leads. After having successfully played Andrew to his own twisted whims, Fletcher decides to verbally abuse the unfortunate freshman during which the cruel instructor menacingly states that he “will f**k him like a pig”. Initially, the line was supposed to be “I will gut you like a pig” but Chazelle found the former hilarious (especially since that Simmons misspoke while delivering the line) and opted to use it despite J.K. Simmons deeming the colorful piece of dialogue ridiculous. Keep up the good work.
@louielouie224 ай бұрын
What a great ending. Chills😁
@peteparker224 ай бұрын
Maybe one of the top ten villains in cinema history
@moviedetective71474 ай бұрын
Oh boy, good luck with this film. I saw this movie on New Year's Eve last year and it emotionally scarred me for life. J.K. Simmons totally deserved that Oscar
@peteparker224 ай бұрын
I saw it in an empty theater on opening weekend and it left me speechless lol. I called everyone I knew to rave about it
@moviedetective71474 ай бұрын
@peteparker22 Oh I feel that way too.
@EyeTunz4 ай бұрын
It scarred me too. So horrible.
@Henry-fn1zw4 ай бұрын
This is literally the definition of anxiety in 1 hr 45 min
@TheDaringPastry13134 ай бұрын
This and Uncut Gems, that movie doesn't let you breathe at all lol
@jmiyagi123454 ай бұрын
Have they watched Uncut Gems on the channel?
@EyeTunz4 ай бұрын
Literally??
@AaronTheCrystalClod4 ай бұрын
Man, one of my dreams as a drummer is to hopefully play Caravan the way it's played in the movie. It's a complex jazz song, but one of those days im gonna get my act together and learn it.
@susanliltz38754 ай бұрын
Fletchers student didn’t die in a car crash , Fletcher lied we found out the student killed himself. He pushed him too!
@alexanderg.32554 ай бұрын
At 7:42, when he says “milk the c%&t” I realized he means play middle C on the piano, getting them all in tune, the same way an orchestra gets in tune before a concert.
@seamusburke6394 ай бұрын
This film really reminded me of art school. Just beating the fun of creativity out of you until you become a production machine.
@bmnbl4 ай бұрын
If you don't feel any anxiety or stress after watching this movie you're either a serial killer or don't have a pulse (dead) xD
@flerbus4 ай бұрын
fletcher reminds me of louis gosset jr in "an officer and a gentlman" also won the oscar for playing a demanding taskmaster 'cept at the end, we love gosset's character
@m.e.38624 ай бұрын
Drill Sargeants put pressure on officer candidates because an officer will ultimately be responsible for people's lives. He makes Mayo grow from being selfish into someone responsible who cares about his teammates. Fletcher just uses people and if Andrew didn't work out he'd move on to the next drummer.
@MontagZoso4 ай бұрын
My husband is a professional drummer. He stopped watching this halfway through the movie and said he couldn’t go any further because it was becoming unbearable for him and it was too painful to watch. I guess some of it hit too close to home for him. I understand. I watched it by myself and was blown away. Just wow!
@RazorwireReviews4 ай бұрын
One of the best films ever made. Simple.
@shainewhite27814 ай бұрын
Nominated for 5 Oscars including Best Picture but won for: Best Supporting Actor Best Film Editing Best Sound Mixing.
@tomarnold72844 ай бұрын
Best Editing well earned 👏👏👏👏👏
@nealrepetti23963 сағат бұрын
I've bin a mechanic all my life. I'm retired now but, I pushed myself beyond what I could take to become the best I could be. It left my body broken because of it. In the end, I'm glad I did it and angry I did it. That's life if you want to be the best that you can be.
@3XLDave4 ай бұрын
Great reaction as always. Samantha's face at 20:22 expresses exactly how I felt when Andrew broke it off with Nicole. If you're looking for more movies from the "stress and tension" genre, how about Flight, with Denzel Washington?
@lonerebeI3 ай бұрын
This is a 10/10 movie. Masterpiece, and love that ending!
@reservoirdude924 ай бұрын
This is obviously a great film, but those final 15 minutes make up one of the most remarkably filmed sequences I've ever seen on a big screen. Caravan is a great song anyway, but this particular rendition COMBINED with the expert direction, cinematography, and editing on display, takes it to a whole other level. God, I love cinema 😂❤
@ryanhelms13954 ай бұрын
I show this scene in my film sound class. Peak example of how sound and picture can be used to tell stories.
@StandUpComedyFan28m4 ай бұрын
But what's weird is that it's not Miles Teller's drumming on the official soundtrack, and what's also weird is that he seems to have perfect form after struggling the whole film performing his solo at the end.
@ryanhelms13954 ай бұрын
@@StandUpComedyFan28m yeah, the fact that he seems to be at his best so soon after essentially giving up on drumming always stuck out as a bit of a plot issue, but once he hits the cymbal in Fletchers face, I kind of stop thinking about it. Haha. Didn’t know about the soundtrack thing. Haven’t listened to a comparison yet, though.
@80swoodpanel4 ай бұрын
When I first watched this film, I couldn't even remember who were the nominees for the Oscar that year but by the end, I just knew that J.K Simmons was not only nominated but had won. It was so obvious, that's how great he is in this.
@YoureMrLebowski4 ай бұрын
18:12 "Ohhh, you play D3 and you're f*cking talking at the dinner table. I could score a touchdown in D3." -TBR damn, TBR is savage! 🤣🤣
@williamweiss61284 ай бұрын
All drummers have watched this.
@JetsetComedian4 ай бұрын
Miles was a capable drummer before this. After, he was an fairly accomplished skill level.
@eliasb84 ай бұрын
I never watched this movie and, after this reaction, I don't think that I ever will.
@EyeTunz4 ай бұрын
Don't watch it. It's awful. It's maddening it is held in such high regard.
@VonPunk4 ай бұрын
An amazing reaction to an amazing film. You know what, when I recommend this film to people, they ask what's it about, and I say 'just an awesome film about a guy playing drums and his teacher' and they look at me so skeptical and never watch it haha, it's something that has to be experienced first hand to get what makes it so good. Also it stands up to repeated views which you may not think it would. My nephews drum kit is in my front room, I rarely touch it, i think this movie is to learning drums, what Jaws is to having a nice swim in sea haha.
@wacokid3023 күн бұрын
This is one of those times where you can genuinely say this is a perfect movie
@richardadesmond4 ай бұрын
I think that when Neiman was asked to testify against Fletcher, you can see some slight reservation on his face. He wants to be the best, and that is the extreme end of the spectrum in terms of ability. He sees Fletcher as the necessary evil (a part of him) to push him there, imo. I don't think Neiman sees the soft and gentle approach as the key to success, just look how he practiced and behaved around getting what he wants. Extreme measures and extreme mindset to get extremely good, in his eyes. Thank you both for an entertaining reaction, as always. They are both matched, they both want greatness more than anything in life, they'll do anything to each other to get it.
@jimtatro65504 ай бұрын
I played drums for over 30 years and I can tell you that some of this movie is accurate and a lot is not. That being said, it’s great and JK Simmons definitely deserved his Oscar.
@TheBlott23194 ай бұрын
When I watch this now, all I can think is that THIS is how you tell a story about a good kid turning to the dark side. This is what the Star Wars prequels should have felt like.
@BarryHart-xo1oy4 ай бұрын
Very true.
@alliel99704 ай бұрын
what a great reaction!! stress is definitely the feeling of this movie haha, but I find it fascinating. To me, the family dinner scene was so key to showing Andrew's character- growing up as a musician in a sports family, I think he constantly felt like he had something to prove to validate the greatness he was trying to achieve, and it was also key to show how much he was emulating Fletcher when he was hurling the insults at his cousins, just like Fletcher did to everyone around him. They were both obsessed with greatness. But Andrew is an 18 year old kid, trying to get approval, so I felt bad for him honestly. I honestly think Fletcher thinks his motives are pure in pushing students the way he does, even though it's obviously insane. The ending where Andrew's dad's face is between the curtains, you can see he finally gets it, what his son is so passionate about and how good he really is, and that whole sequence just gives me chills.
@msmilder254 ай бұрын
I watched the academy awards where this film was nominated, saw the clips and thought "this looks good"...and found it on-demand that week and watched it...several times. Such great performances by both actors, incredible film everyone needs to watch.
@EyeTunz4 ай бұрын
No. Do NOT watch this movie. It is awful. If I can save one person from this experience I will be happy.
@MrDman214 ай бұрын
Best drum solo ever!
@dudermcdudeface36744 ай бұрын
Fletcher illustrates a "talent parasite." He doesn't actually teach them anything, just randomly tortures them until ones who happen to be both talented and suggestible show themselves. Then he brainwashes them to think he's helping them when he's just taking the credit for their performances. But he takes no responsibility for failing the ones he drives away. So it's win-win for him, but mostly losing for his students.
@northernlines26524 ай бұрын
Finally someone talks about this!
@richardrawson3 ай бұрын
My wife’s cousin Patrick is the band member with the long curly hair- he said J.K. Simmons was terrifying when he was in character but super cool as himself. This movie always hits hard beyond did a lot of theater and choir in high school and a lot of the directors were just like that.
@bronzewand4 ай бұрын
Anyone who's played music has definitely experienced band leaders who can be very intense. This movie is somewhat based on the famous "Buddy Rich Tapes" which were secretly recorded by one of Buddy's band members and showcase a real life Terence Fletcher in full swing.
@EyeTunz4 ай бұрын
At least those guys were adults, but even so they should have quit instantly and/or beat Buddy Rich the hell up.
@jazzx2513 ай бұрын
@@EyeTunz Famously - one of Buddy Rich's band broke his leg, and couldn't perform ... "you don't need your leg to play a saxophone!" He demanded he appear on stage. Buddy Rich was a brilliant drummer - but utter WANKER!
@Althubx4 ай бұрын
incredible movie. its one of the very rare movies where the protagonist and the antagonist get what they want at the exact same moment
@rigrmortis33934 ай бұрын
The absolute best part of the this movie, and many movies of the past, is that it didn't tell you what to think. There are 173 comments at the time of writing this and many are debating all the finer points of the movie. That is what good cinema used to do; lay out an extremely good product and then sit back and let the public "chew" on it for years debating all the interesting points. Is Fletcher a monster for effectively leading to a student's death or an amazing teacher for finding and pushing another student to potential greatness? Did Andrew lose his humanity in chasing a dream? Will he come to regret his decisions later in life? Man I miss good movies.
@daustin88884 ай бұрын
J. Jonah Jameson really went off the deep end after he lost his job at the Daily Bugle
@S_0474 ай бұрын
Just wait till he gets superpowers
@markcreemore49154 ай бұрын
I watched Natalie Gold's reaction video to this, and she mentioned how it brought back all kinds of very unpleasant and traumatic memories of her time at a performing arts school where she had one or two teachers just like Fletcher, minus the slapping and the chair throwing.
@RealBLAlley4 ай бұрын
Maybe that's why she talks through the entire movie when she does reactions.
@richieclean4 ай бұрын
@@RealBLAlleyhow dare she 🙄
@TheDaringPastry13134 ай бұрын
Another movie that keeps you uncomfortable is Adam Sandler in Uncut Gems. Teller played most of it (99%), but there were parts at the end where some hand shots were a professional drummer and teller had some places where he played while a recording was going. The ending of this story is really sad, because Fletcher's teachings using heavy abuse worked. His dad knows that he has lost his son and Andrew is most likely going to die early in his life like Sean Casey. Andrew thinks he is getting back at Fletcher by one-upping him at the end, but Fletcher is the one in control.
@davidthe62702 ай бұрын
Yes! Hope you like this masterpiece! Welcome!!!!
@browntabproductions3 ай бұрын
JK Simmons plays the “Gunnery Sergeant Hartman” of Conductor’s at Shaffer Conservatory Studio Band.
@samworf65504 ай бұрын
A professional drummer analyzed the not-my-tempo scene using a computer and determined that Fletcher was screwing with him, since his tempo from take to take was never more than 1-3 BPM off, which is nothing to throw a chair about. And 33:16 another reviewer noticed a subtle bit of symbolism throughout the film: a character's power depends on the color he wears, with darker colors corresponding to greater power. Fletcher wears black throughout the film, but Andrew (and Elmer Fudd) wear white in the beginning. By the end, Andrew has slowly switched over to wearing black, and now has power over Fletcher.
@ulyssesfilmchannel4 ай бұрын
In a lot of ways I feel this movie is similar to The Prestige in that it shows two guys who are so obsessed with their goal that nothing is unacceptable in the pursuit of it.
@ooshiga4 ай бұрын
30:55 He couldn't share his music even if he wanted to. The Bass player's music sheets only have the Bass part. In most cases each player's sheet music only has their own part on it. The only place on that stage where the drum set's music is written is on the full score on the director's stand.
@LeRoy-z5f4 ай бұрын
My take on the film.... aside from Nicole no one else in the movie was really likeable.
@EyeTunz4 ай бұрын
Exactly. What an awful movie.
@claytonbishop40212 ай бұрын
When they mention Buddy Rich's name, he is consider the greatest drummer ever to have drawn breath. No drummer can match his technique not even with today's drummers.
@Globalo454 ай бұрын
Damn its been 10 years since this masterpiece came out
@shainewhite27814 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video!! See you later!! Stay safe.😊
@LiTTleGaBi214 ай бұрын
I have played in a band in school and although it wasn’t like that, this movie still give me flashbacks to the stress I sometimes had back then.
@coreyhendricks94904 ай бұрын
This movie went on another level of intensity, cool reaction as always Schmitt & Samantha, you both take care and have a good night
@gamergamer35184 ай бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed entertainment recreational stress film! Have you seen the films The Standoff at Sparrow Creek or Green Room? My wife and I enjoy watching your content 🎉
@warpath19114 ай бұрын
This is such a great movie great performances. The only thing that would have made it better would have been if Miles Davis's character had reclaimed his humanity and instead of doing the major crash at the end just kicking over the drum set and walking out.
@jowbloe36734 ай бұрын
Being great requires sacrifice (for better or worse), and Andrew believed he needed to remove distractions if he wanted to become great. Maybe he was wrong, and could have become just as good with Nicole in his life, but he thought he couldn't. People make sacrifices to achieve their dreams all the time (and more often, don't sacrifice and don't achieve). I think he should be appreciated about being honest and open with Nicole.
@EyeTunz4 ай бұрын
Fk. That. He's a god damn idiot. What an awful movie.
@lazybriefcase52574 ай бұрын
Hell yeah, this is like my favorite movie of all time, glad you guys are doing a video on it!
@jeffgray79224 ай бұрын
Growing up playing in different bands, I've seen this "style" of teaching before, but not nearly this extreme. I had one teacher who was let's just say "very passionate" about us being the best we could be. She broke a lot of conducting batons but never threw anything at us or insulted us and we all liked her. We were the best band in the state so I can't knock it too much. What is portrayed in this movie though is completely unacceptable. I would NEVER put up with anything close to what Fletcher does in this movie. JK Simmons is an amazing actor and definitely one of my favorites.
@Nick-gi7qs4 ай бұрын
amazing film, if you want some more stressful movies id recommend Good Time (2017), Uncut Gems (2019), and Shiva Baby(2020)!
@marennicholson54444 ай бұрын
I watch A LOT of horror movies but I honestly think this was the most tense I’ve ever been watching a movie
@S_0474 ай бұрын
Be it spider man pictures, a music student , or a son not going with the program ... Simmons never fails to intimidate me
@parker469a4 ай бұрын
The funny thing is he's the nicest dad in the universe in Juno. Well except when he says he's going to bunch her baby daddy in the nuts until his wife points out it was absolutely her idea because there's no way he had the self confidence to initiate anything.
@claymccoy4 ай бұрын
Or a Neo-Nazi prisoner.
@lynnie66334 ай бұрын
He was terrifying in Oz!!
@dnish66734 ай бұрын
Pretty cool dad of a pregnant daughter though.
@Jacob33FilmGuy4 ай бұрын
Great reaction guys the actor who JK Simmons said I can still fucking see you mini me is Michael D. Cohen he is best known for playing the character of Schwoz on the Nickelodeon tv show Henry Danger which ran from 2015 to 2020
@nikkis.20664 ай бұрын
Nah I think you both are wrong at the end. Fletcher plays the long game and throws out as many hooks to find the person who is ENTIRELY devoted to the craft for the sake of art of playing itself and will do so by any means.The reason he was surprised is because he routinely tried & "failed" Andew and figured he was done...but Andrew kept bouncing back. When he saw Andrew at the Jazz Club, he saw an opportunity to push him one last time. Was it out of spite? Yeah, of course, that's who henis...but it was probably the last shot to truly test Andrew again. Everything Fletcher was hoping to hook, happened at the end...whether that spark was for that night only, or if Andrew takes it to the end for himself...we don't know.
@redviper68054 ай бұрын
Every time Simmons shouted, all I could see was Omni-Man from Invincible
@samworf65504 ай бұрын
WHY DID YOU MAKE ME DO THIS NEIMAN
@redviper68054 ай бұрын
THINK NEIMAN!!
@cactusjuice82774 ай бұрын
As a musician/drummer, I appreciate this movie very much. Even if half the moments in this are unrealistic like all the assault n crap. 😂 That made it more entertaining 👍🏽
@idiot_city54443 ай бұрын
One of the best endings of all time
@patrickbrady58384 ай бұрын
Jazz-loving Clint Eastwood directed a bio montage of a saxophone great, Charlie Parker - BIRD, 1988. Great reviews, tiny box office.
@vickyy5184 ай бұрын
What a great video to stumble upon on a Thursday night
@spikeinmadness50054 ай бұрын
Andrew coming back proved that he would not be discouraged. The smile Fletcher gave him showed that he did find his Charlie Parker in the end.
@theascendunt99604 ай бұрын
That's what I thought too.
@MogMonster874 ай бұрын
He became a slave to fletcher at the end. The good relationships he could have had with his Dad and Nicole he chose the toxic relationship with fletcher instead
@spikeinmadness50054 ай бұрын
How was he a slave to Fletcher? Andrew chose to pursue greatness and that requires sacrifice, sacrifices Andrew was willing to make to reach His goal. If anything, Fletcher was more of a slave to his perfection and dedication in finding that next great one.
@MogMonster874 ай бұрын
@@spikeinmadness5005 bro Andrew’s triumph at the end is gonna be a fleeting one he’s inevitably going to crash and burn at a young age, yes he made sacrifices to reach his goal but the whole point of the film is for you to question ‘was it worth it?’ And you shouldn’t really be comfortable with the trade off. Fletcher won and got his very own Charlie Parker, the Charlie Parker that had mental health problems , drug addiction and died at 34. If you don’t think Andrew’s future is a dark one you weren’t paying attention to the movie
@spikeinmadness50054 ай бұрын
@@MogMonster87 You're reacting to the unknown. You are making it darker than it is because you think it was "toxic" for Andrew to chase his dream the way he did. The point of the movie was to show that greatness requires dedication and tenacity to reach, and those that can push others to greatness are few and far between.
@scottythedawg4 ай бұрын
I agree he tried to ruin andrew just like he was ruined - the unexpected consequence was that he got what he was looking for.
@89sigma433 ай бұрын
I wished that Whiplash had more of a backstory on Fletcher.
@alexhidalgo71104 ай бұрын
Awesome I love it
@Schizm14 ай бұрын
For me this movie became a really sad one once I saw that some... people... tend to idolise Fletcher, not realising that you DON'T have to be abusive prick to be amazing at something and a good teacher.
@Carlosbusiness7744 ай бұрын
Patently waiting for you guys to watch Peaky Blinders 😅
@keithbrown84904 ай бұрын
This movie goes onto my list of great movies I saw one time and will never see again. I just can't take watching Simmons' brilliant character more than once.
@jamesdamiano88944 ай бұрын
JK Simmons is such a good actor and very versatile. Please get to Burn After Reading. His part isn’t that big but is really funny and the whole movie is awesome with a great cast.
@johnbrewer88264 ай бұрын
This might be the fastest decision I've ever made to watch a reaction video when I saw you two pop up doing "Whiplash."
@toddhill74834 ай бұрын
Fletcher lied about the cause of death for Shawn Casey. Saying that to a room full of students in the internet age makes little sense. Shawn's real manner of death would have quickly been discovered. For Fletcher to lie and not expect to be discovered strains credulity.
@cryoboy4 ай бұрын
My favorite JK Simmons movies are still "Thank You for Smoking" and "Burn After Reading" (by the Coen brothers).
@bryanr88974 ай бұрын
I think one of the things I love most is the final scene with the stages of conflict by competition. It goes Denial ---> Compete ---> Reason ---> Collaborate.
@MasonGrant07044 ай бұрын
We haven't had many great movies come out of Hollywood in the last 15 years but this was a great movie and the Academy actually got it right with giving JK best supporting actor.
@Lovell-e9z4 ай бұрын
Ericson looks like Weird Al😂😂😂
@AntonioGee4 ай бұрын
One of those great movies that has always has people arguing or even seeing both sides of the argument on whether the type of teacher JKS portrays is this is necessary for greatness or not.
@EyeTunz4 ай бұрын
Who the hell argues in favor of an insane bully like this??? What is that argument??
@jaredcarpenter99734 ай бұрын
@@EyeTunz...that it made him a better musician. Did you even watch the movie?
@omargonzalez-gv5qg4 ай бұрын
One of favorite movies, they also filmed certain scenes at my old hs!
@philmullineaux54054 ай бұрын
Of any genre, proly the best movie made in the past 20 years. Buddy Rich is the greatest drummer who ever lived. He was the hero of John Bonham of LED Zeppelin and Neil Piert of Rush. Type in here, Buddy Rich plays drums. The final song progression goes from threatening teacher/student, to what are u doing man, to Andrew. Fletcher finally got his Charlie Parker!
@RetroGaming_074 ай бұрын
When I first watched this movie years ago I was anxious and nervous but I was suprisied by the ending of it. Andrew gets back at Fletcher perfectly by showing off his true drumming talents and Fletcher finaly realizes that. Fletcher played a good villain that he's one of the few professors to really push his students to thier ultimate breaking points. Fletcher was abusive indeed and was a terrible teacher. Great and good teachers don't abuse thier students. There are plenty of other ways and methods to teach students. Whiplash is one of the best movies of 2014 and is one of the best movies off all time. I'm not into jazz much at all but I admit I still like a little jazz here and there just not a whole lot. I highly recommend Whiplash.
@laffingist2184 ай бұрын
~i work in film so i know movies can't be fully realistic, this is just an interesting convo i had~ in Brooklyn i lived with an orchestra drummer, recommended this movie. came home after he watched it, he was pacing around his room muttering to himself how it made no sense. his gripes were 1) homey only practices speed in the movie 2) the teacher would immediately be exiled from teaching if he abused a student, especially using slurs, especially in nyc 3) you don't conduct a solo. i know nothing about music myself.
@vincecommando75753 ай бұрын
Unfortunately I had football coaches and Marine Drill Sergeants who were much like J.K. Simmons character Terrance Fletcher. Most of them who push people beyond their limits believe that they get people to give effort that people never believed themselves capable of giving. Sometimes that can be very true. The down side of that is they can push people way past their breaking point. That is when people can resort to committing suicide or holding everyone in the world responsible for their pain and punishing them for it.