WHIPLASH was an INTENSE experience! (movie reaction)

In today's movie commentary, we react to the film, Whiplash with Miles Teller and J.K Simmons! What do we react to next?
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[@QueenTofu]

Considering what I expressed in this reaction video, I'm really grateful I got to see my Dad one last time before he passed

[@jamesward3859]

Sorry for your loss

[@Noahj1611]

So sorry For your loss Tofu

[@Nothing_Israel]

Ugh. Okay. Gotta call my parents. Thanks for the reminder.

[@thisinhumanplace2037]

Thats some real shit. Thanks for sharing that with us.

[@timschultz7860]

So sorry for your loss.

[@stonecoldku4161]

The director said that Miles Teller did 90% of the drumming in this movie. I think the closeups of the hands are when they used a different drummer.

[@liluziintrovert]

It’s hilarious that he wanted Miles teller and JK Simmons to play the parts, only to find out after he casted them that Miles teller grew up playing the drums and JK Simmons actually went to college FOR conducting

[@Lucas-wm7cw]

@@liluziintroverta match made in heaven (or hell depending on how you look at it)

[@vincecommando7575]

J.K. Simmons and Miles Teller were performing at the highest level in this movie. Neither one was holding back and they were both giving it all they had. So powerful and it leaves us completely in awe.

[@spencerwattamaniuk950]

The powers of a great director as well!

[@DontrelleRoosevelt]

Thanks Captain Obvious!

[@osmanyousif7849]

“Rushing or Dragging?! Think Neiman, THINK!”

[@chriskelly3481]

Look... Fletcher IS a "complex" character, to be sure. But he is DEFINATELY a f**king monster! I love the arts. There is NO justification for his behaviour. This is an amazing movie... Hard to watch.

[@diablomma9893]

Nah I was raised in a similar manner, it’s a lonely life if you want to be great

[@sababaratashvili8629]

@@diablomma9893 The question is does it have to be? If we truly check all the great musicians or just generally great artists were they all so lonely, was it a must?

[@aarniimmonen9374]

I think the best way to put it is that he cares more about music than about people in both the good and the bad (mainly bad :P). He seeks perfection through horrible means, but then towards the end we see him enjoying music at the small bar. Then at the very end, after he has tricked Andrew but Andrew has exceeded his expectations, he sort of gives up on the grudge he had against Andrew, because again he cares more about music than about people (the rare case where this is good). So yes, he is definitely horrible, but almost in a way that's detached from humanity. He's like a sociopath who really loves music.

[@sababaratashvili8629]

@@BartholomewHumphrey Yes, maybe some or even most do not really need to go this extreme to reach the top.

[@ThisIsCool45]

@@diablomma9893 I doubt you were raised by a narcissistic sociopath like Fletcher, only in a super strict manner. Plus, Fletcher wasn't looking for "great", he was looking for perfection.

[@philmullineaux5405]

I still say, of any genre, this is the best movie of the last 20 years. It completely and totally moves u, in all directions!The final scene, Andrew, hits what Fletcher wanted, a person impossible of discouragement. Fletcher goes from threatening him, then treating him like a student, then calls him by his name, then calls him by his first name, then gives him the smile!!!

[@spencerwattamaniuk950]

Yeah I would agree honestly, top 10 at least. Just one of those lightning in a bottle movies were everything was at its peak. Damien's direction and screenplay, Cross' editing, Meir's electric and in-your-face cinematography, and the intense performances by Miles Teller and JK Simmons.

[@jmurdock8303]

I say one of but you are right

[@JeremiahConnor]

I am super impressed that you are so cognizant of what is going on with the writing and the subtleties/inflections that the writers/actors are trying to convey and in real time not only able to interpret but communicate in an efficient/honest way not just what is happening on screen but your own thoughts about it...very refreshing. I've seen vids of yours in the past and am surprised to notice that I'm not subscribed...WTF? Amended.

[@EchelonDnB]

JK Simmons was phenomenal in this gem of a film. Such a terrific actor.

[@osmanyousif7849]

From J Jonah, to Fetcher, to Omni-Man….

[@richardwilliams6256]

"This golden retriever of a man so happy to just be there" 25:26-25:29 damn that was funny, clever and memorable reactor quote i ever heard

[@brandonb.5304]

I think Andrew's dad's reaction watching his son perform backstage with that gaping mouth was one of concern, not amazement. He saw his son be abused and return to that abusive enviornment, only to be rewarded for returning. I think he's concerned about his son's future, wondering if the price Andrew is going to pay to be successful is a result similar to that of Charlie Parker. Dead at a young age but remembered in music cicles forever. Maybe Andrew sees that as success, but as a father, I'm sure he'd rather just have his son alive and in his life for decades to come.

[@PastLifeVillian]

Nope, he’s thinking about how great he is. Because he is great now.

[@Gecko_Zen]

@@PastLifeVillianit wasn’t

[@thepapavulture8322]

@@PastLifeVillian Please do any ounce of research about this film. The director and screenplay both state the Andrew's father is staring on in horror

[@userxl41drn301]

He was rewarded for playing a fucking great show, not for showing up, though. It's established that Fletcher is serious about music and forging talent, so I doubt that he gave Andrew his approval just for rebelling and "not giving up" even after the public embarassment.

[@RetSol61]

Being a retired Army Vet it has always been clear that mentorship and training builds up people where as this kind of harsh behavior is only used to tear people down.

[@theshadowfax239]

Thank you for saying that. As a professional who works in high-level athletics it seriously disturbs me how many people, that Fletcher was a positive force in his life.

[@PastLifeVillian]

Nope, this is how it should be. Prime example being Easy Company under Sobel.

[@diablomma9893]

If you’re great you can’t be torn down 🤷‍♂️

[@diablomma9893]

@@theshadowfax239the people you work with will never be great

[@ThisIsCool45]

@@PastLifeVillian You prefer abuse? lol

[@liluziintrovert]

The ending is such an oddly depressing one. The shot of the dad isn’t him being happy for his son, it’s seeing his son succumb to the toxic and abusive relationship of Fletcher. Yes his son is standing up for himself, but Andrew turns that “standing up for himself” into giving Fletcher EXACTLY what he wants, because if Andrew really wanted to embarrass Fletcher he would of just stopped at the first song in which he borderline dominates Fletcher

[@detectivepenegrande]

For me is he getting that he is giving UP his life and dying yound for the sake of music.

[@BO2ZombieX]

​@detectivepenegrande In a way its like Going out with a BANG. It also puts into perspective that its both vague and has Pro & Cons for either argument. In a similar way, something isn't beautiful because it lasts, its a privilege to be among Greatness like Michael Jackson, Elvis Presley, Freddie Mercury or like Charlie Parker and Sean Casey. All are Great Music Artist and Entertainers, all died in ways people "never" saw coming.

[@Crazyperson04]

Or his father is finally realizing how wrong he was to minimize his achievements and skill level in music. Maybe he’s realizing that his son is extremely talented to a ridiculous level because he never saw him play with this level of passion. If the directors wanted his father to be “horrified” then they should’ve written the movie better.

[@mia_assassina]

Yay, the 'Fu is back and she brought presents! Well, _one_ present, but it's just what I wanted. This was a great reaction to a hell of a movie, Tof. I loved the way you read Fletcher for the abusive asshole he was in _seconds_ and it's always touching to see how quickly you can empathize with others in these difficult kinds of situations. That college story, btw? That's some bullshit. So...cowardly and inconsiderate of your "peers" to do that to you. Ugh. Some of your analysis in this video is ridiculously spot on. Typical for you, but still...felt worth mentioning with just how _much_ is going on in in a movie like this. I really enjoyed hearing your takes on different coaching styles and the toxicity of artistic narcissism. And your appreciation for the cinematography, the details, the subtle nuances of the psychology? Mmm, yes, love it, love it, love it! But-and I think this is something you do exceptionally well-you also kept a little humor in the balance, even if it was dark humor, and really elevated the experience as a result. As a sidenote: it took me a little by surprise how much of a cruel irony there was in your unknowing comments about missing your dad, but so I'm glad you got to see him after this. I'm sure he loved that. Sending you love as always, babe. ❤ But anyway, these movie commentaries are always dope, and I'm really looking forward to whatever you decide to check out next.

[@scope40k]

The way I see it: Whiplash's ending is open for interpretation. Does ends justify the means? All in all everyone decides for himself what they are ready to sacrifice for their goals, and whether this kind of sacrifice is required to achieve the goal in the first place. Anyway, thank you for this great reaction. It was fun to watch, as always.

[@TheArtisticGhost]

This represents what Artists go through JUST to MAKE IT and feel Recognized like some of us go to the deep end and cut things and people out.

[@spencerarnold669]

Personally, I don't think Fletcher drive for greatness was due to ego (although he definitely had one). I think he just put music and greatness (or even the final product in terms of the average student who went on to play beutifully) above anything else. The only time he was truly happy was when he was playing in the club and when he witnessed the solo at the end. Even the way he mourned the ex student was through his music not him as a person. I honestly think he would be fine if he was hated or wasn't remembered at all just to have witnessed that moment of Andrew achieved. I think the narsism is that he believes he alone knows the way, but I don't think he's doing it for himself (which sort of makes it scarier because thats an easier motivation to look down on) but doing it purely for the art and didn't care about his own or others humanity

[@darrenwoodbine3842]

I was tearing up when you were talking about your dad. I hope you're doing OK, well as OK as you can be. But I loved this reaction to one of my favourite films.

[@fleaguss]

I love this movie and the way it address the way someone can be consumed by the call of the arts. As referrenced by Tofu, Black Swan is another good movie on this but instead the art entirely consumes the artist in attempting the perfect performance. Here in Whiplash, Andrew does get consumed but being in a t-bone wreck forced Fletcher to kick Andrew out of the band. Fortunately he is able to recover from a possibly fatal event and decompress. In my opinion and head cannon, Fletcher was the one who stole the folder during the earlier performance to force Andrew to rise to the occasion and easily throw away the other drummer. I agree that Fletcher is an absolute narcisist and wants to be the man who trained up a great musician. I think great people must somehow be tested and seperated from the regular people and unfortunately Fletcher does a good job in quickly sifting through prospects but also does a good job in vigorusly testing the second round of prospects. By the old saying, "In order to make diamonds you need heat and pressure." Is it too much pressure, yes, by all definitions it is too much. I also understand when Fletcher said "good job" is a terrible thing to say to someone; that is basically saying to that person "you have done enough and dont need to try any more." I disagree with Fletcher that people will stop at good job. Some people will continue to hone their craft, even when not pushed to do so.

[@baronnuuke7821]

I had an argument with a friend about that, in my point of view Fletcher is not necessarily narcissistic, and we tend to project on and judge him based on profiles of people we met in the past, but in the movie, except some sentences about his reputation, I wouldn't say Fletcher is completely drowned in his own self. At some points one could even argue he is altruistic, devoting his life to teach students while he fades in the background. I'm exaggerating on purpose, of course. To me it is more like a drill sergent, sure there are some ego tricks about it but in the end calling them narcissistic is completely exaggerated

[@joaquinbaume1291]

the ending of this movie is actually so sad

[@vonzox]

Why is that? Because Fletcher succeeded or Andrew went back to Fletcher?

[@joaquinbaume1291]

@@vonzox both, it's like a super toxic relationship, Andrew gave him what he wanted and in a sense validated Fletcher's abuse

[@vonzox]

@@joaquinbaume1291 True. But also Andrew archived his lifes dream. I have to think again.. awesome movie.

[@userxl41drn301]

@@joaquinbaume1291 On the other hand, Andrew is a big boy and no one chained him to Fletcher. He wanted the abuse because it made him succeed, and he took it. Judging by his face, for HIM it was probably worth it and he wouldn't feel fine any other way.

[@joaquinbaume1291]

@@userxl41drn301 yeah that's not how abuse works, i wish it were that simple but it's not

[@ArmaniiLaci]

Watching Tori and other people is always soothing idk like for Tori she calms down all the Troubles I'm going with Love this Reaction And The Communication s

[@bryanchu5379]

it's so interesting how you refer to the main character as "we" and "us"

[@_Erudito_]

Hey Tofu, been really looking forward to this one This movie is a lot, and this was a great reaction all around. You had some really insightful commentary in this one, especially in the analysis at the end. I hope this getting uploaded now means you're doing okay, or as okay as you can be. Can't wait for whatever you decide to do next, whether it's more gameplay or another movie commentary, just make sure you're taking some time for you too.

[@submandave1125]

Andrew's return wasn't just to Fletcher, it was ahis return to his dream. He wanted to be Fletcher's "Bird," but not for Fletcher. Perfection was his obsession. It's a story of two addicts feeding each other's vice.

[@basti5231]

I'm so happy you watched this movie, since I've always been curious about it but didn't dare to do it. After seeing you react to it, I can see it was the right decision. My anger issues could have never made me sit through this movie unscathed 😭

[@alexandermacneil4430]

Great reaction. Love watching your movie react content.

[@beanbagwillie]

wow! tofu can really say the right thing at the right time, that's my tempo!

[@mdc1342]

One of the greatest and darkest films ever made. Iconic performance by JK Simmons

[@dingus7081]

this movie was part of my inspiration for starting Jazz drumming. I've been doing it for 4 years now

[@creature1273]

Thank you so much for another review, I hope you are doing well and take all the time you need. This movie brings me back to my entire history of dealing with my HS coach, everything was a mental game of some sort. I will say that the Character in the movie did way better then I ever did with dealing with it. I lashed out often, out of frustration. But thank you again for the review, I cant begin to explain how much I enjoy your reviews. It makes my day every time I see them.

[@nezfromhki]

My favorite movie of all time this, so glad you watched it! Personally, I love the ending. It's tragic in a way that some people miss (not you), but that's what makes it great for me. It leaves you feeling conflicted, and I prefer that over the "Disney endings", as you called them. In some ways it could be seen as triumphant, but at the same time as you said it, Fletcher also gets what he wants and personally it doesn't seem like either the father or Andrew are happy about it. In those few final shots when you see the father watching from the door, it could be interpreted as awe, but I see a hint of sadness/horror in there. And also, Andrew's face right before the end, it isn't a victorious smile. It's emotionless. His eyes are completely dead, as if he feels no actual joy from the performing, he's just now all consumed by Fletcher's teachings. One last thing is that you sometimes see musicians, especially from the jazz world, talk shit about this movie because they feel it's not portraying that world accurately and making it look bad. However, I think they miss the point that it's not really even a movie about the world of jazz music. The movie is about Fletcher's and Andrew's dynamic and the strive for perfection that could be transformed into any other setting and the story could stay the same. Replace jazz music with sports, the military, cooking, whatever. Damien Chazelle used to play jazz which is why he simply picked a less depicted setting that was already familiar to him ("write what you know") and used that to tell a pretty universal story incredibly well. He didn't portray the world inaccurately because of a lack of familiarity, but because it's a movie and being a documentary wasn't its goal.

[@noxteryn]

The reason musicians don't like this movie is not simply because the portrayal of jazz is incorrect, but because Fletcher's opinions on pedagogy are also objectively incorrect. None of his ideas have merit. It's all a fantasy. There is plenty of scientific research on what the proper way to teach is, and literally everything Fletcher does is wrong. To put this into perspective, imagine if Fletcher was a flat-earther or an anti-vaxxer, teaching his students his insane ideas. That's how wrong he is. There are no conflicted emotions. He's just flat out wrong in everything he says or does.

[@Pylon.Boi03]

@@noxterynso they’re mad that the movie’s antagonist has a flawed world view? They must hate 90% of movies then…

[@thepapavulture8322]

@@noxteryn So theyre mad the movie with commentary on cycles of abuse (Cause thats what the movie is actually about. not fucking music or jazz) has abuse? Thats crazy dude

[@Gnomojo]

I won’t say this movie is underrated cuz clearly it got the acclaims it deserved but holy man this movie is an absolute experience.

[@rubi_pica593]

Wow really enjoyed your commentary on this film the way you break down the psychological aspects of this was really good! Happy to see you post again, hope you're doing well!

[@Vincent_AD]

As usual, Tor, this was a wonderful watch from start to finish. You're as funny, charming, and insightful as ever, and I genuinely don't know that I could possibly tire of listening to you breakdown your thoughts and reactions like you do in these videos. Even in the face of how unpleasant this film can be at times, you still managed to make this video engaging and entertaining throughout. The film, though? For me, this one is filed firmly under the category of "Incredibly Well Made Films I Never Want To Watch Again". The performances, the direction, the cinematography, the music - all tremendous. All masterfully crafted elements that come together to create a beautiful, stressful, emotionally miserable experience. And I'm right there with you on the ending being... unsatisfying, in a way. Personally, my biggest issue with the film overall, though, is that it left me feeling uncertain about where it falls regarding Fletcher's abuse. Is this a film about a guy who succeeded in spite of his teacher's abuse? Is it a film about how it's okay to abuse people if it pushes them to be better? It just feels, I don't know, ambiguous on both a central topic of the film and a topic I don't necessarily think one *should* be ambiguous about. I saw this film about 3 years ago and to this day I still can't decide if it wants to frame Fletcher's behaviour as abusive and wrong or harsh but motivating. And the fact that I'm unsure about that has always kind of given me pause when it comes to recommending it or praising it on more than a technical level. Anyway, thank you as always, Tor, for another delightful video. And thank you to the editor - whose name was just on my mind until I went to type it - for both the sharp editing and the genuinely funny interjections and snark. As for what to react to next? Well, I don't know if it's still up for consideration, but I would love to see you cover Mad Max: Fury Road at some point. I'd be happy to try and sell you on it if need be, but suffice it to say it's a brilliant film I really think you'd love. That said, whatever you react to or play next, Tor, there's no doubt in my mind it'll be a great time.

[@QueenTofu]

"Incredibly Well Made Films I Never Want to Watch Again" is a PERFECT way to describe it 😭 I also really resonate with your dissatisfaction on the ending's ambiguity. Was this film supposed to send a message? Was it supposed to be so open to interpretation? I came away from it feeling mostly like...Fletcher is obviously abusive and the film makes it a point to highlight how damaging he is to his students. Just because one student (Andrew) sort of threw it back at him at the end there, still doesn't justify Fletcher's methodology, as I think the film pointed to Teller's character being talented and capable of greatness regardless of teachers' tactics. I'm realizing though (through reading comments), that not everyone came away with these thoughts tho HAHA!

[@equilibrium1037]

@@QueenTofu Interesting data point: the director's position is decidedly non-ambiguous. He's flat-out said that considers Fletcher's "win" a flat-out horror story. I've been thinking a lot about narratives that take the chance of making an earnestly critical portrayal that has the courage to portray the appeal of their subjects, and running the obvious risk of converting viewers to the cause of their antagonists. The Ur-example, of course, being Fight Club. Bioshock created it's fair share of Randians. The Outsider by A Perfect Circle has all manner of people online nodding along to it's narrator's dismissals, when Maynard himself has been abundantly clear that it's a portrait of failure in comprehension, he just never adulterated it to be obvious to those who are only able or willing to consider the obvious. It's a risk, but the payoff is a perspective juxtaposition of that just wasn't available without them.

[@43Disciple]

First of all LOVE your coverage, this is beautiful. You take the same emotional review approach to these films as I do and you have a sub for life in me, for what it’s worth 😊 Now, at 41:23 I want to point out you made a great observation, but I want to add that not only is this happening, but this coordinated attack, this humiliation setup is taking place at CARNEGIE HALL of all places. The absolute Mecca of music and performing arts in the US, the promise land where all of Andrew’s heroes transformed from prodigy to legend… what Andrew does with this is both phenomenal and tragic. The director is a former jazz drummer student, he likens this to drug addiction. The symbolism of Andrew’s clothing (from white to grey to all black) symbolizes not his Stockholm idolization of Fletcher, but more so him giving the last piece of his soul to his obsession, letting it take him to darker and darker places, sacrificing his life. The birth of a star means the death of a boy in this case.

[@bobotubeful]

The best movie for me, for give the amazing experience. Heart beating so fast in the last scene

[@EpicMRPancake]

I think a lot of this commentary was resisting a challenge to your worldview despite you having an intuitive understanding of the value of Fletcher's cruelty. Both Mile's character and Fletcher shared a love of the best music, and explains both the latter's severity and the former's sticking around in spite of it. All the disgust and violence Fletcher showed was for the part of his students that wasn't part of that highest achievement. People usually don't want to give up any part of themselves for destruction, even if they know they want better. One needs an art teacher to assert with complete confidence and knowledge what needs to be cut out. It's not narcissism, it's just the same process of harsh reduction that perfectionists do to themselves, applied to other volunteers. It's like a lazer cutting a jewel.

[@JeremiahConnor]

I like your comment but would like some clarification on these two sentences: *All the disgust and violence Fletcher showed was for the part of his students that wasn't part of that highest achievement. People usually don't want to give up any part of themselves for destruction, even if they know they want better* Can't decide if it's my limited brain capacity or your inability to express your thoughts more clearly. Can you dumb it down for me a bit...because I feel I'm missing out on some really good insight here:)

[@EpicMRPancake]

@@JeremiahConnor What I meant there was that Fletcher both did and did not hate his students. It is like the love of a mother, only the students are not the child, the music is. He was finding out with each whether he hated them or not, whether they were weak in mindset and talent or not. It was not really personal. Separating things is the definition of violence, and the emotion that drives the search for impurities is disgust. His name 'Fletcher' literally means someone who whittles down shafts of wood to create something that flies through the air gracefully and pierces others.

[@akshaytakkar6747]

Reminds me of a biblical painting portraying two angels guarding the gates of the garden of eden with flaming swords. Meaning, every part of you that isn't perfect will have to be cut out with flaming swords in order for you to get it. The fact that the same theme is repeated in this movie and the bible which are 2000 years apart, says something profound

[@TheAnscarii]

A lot of ppl miss the real oint of this movie. The point isnt if fletcher method is bad. The point is if its justificable to destroy a bunch of mediocre or even good ppl passion in the way to find a great one. A real great one. Its survival of the fittest applied to music. When you investigate a little you find that almost all "great" artists where kinda miserable. Cause overcoming hardships makes you better or kills you. Tofu said that the level that the MC achieved in the last scene could be achieved with a less abusive method. Could it tho? Remember at the beggining of the movie he is with another band with a more lovely teacher. And he isnt improving. He doesnt really start to train seriously until fletcher shames him in front of the class. All in all i think this movie is a deeper comebtary about society, goals and drive than most ppl think and deserve an open mind aproach

[@QueenTofu]

The more lovely teacher you mentioned seemed to actually be stifling Andrew and his talent (in the scene where Andrew was appearing to add musical flourishes to which the teacher seemed to discourage it). This is just my interpreration though. I'm a big advocate for the idea of each person needing a different teaching or coaching style. I really thrive with gentle and "lovely" teachers lol but unlike me, I think Andrew would have really thrived with a sterner teacher, just not as abusive one.

[@TheAnscarii]

@@QueenTofu Fletcher was obviously too much. Cartoonishy even. But I can see a professor that expell a student cause don't know it's out of tune, puts different students against each other and is not afraid to be 5 hours practicing one single part of the piece until it's perfect. You take away all the insults and belittlement and you have a pretty good teacher for elite musicians. A jerk undoubtedly but pretty sure his musicians gonna be top.

[@ErickIsaac-qo6ym]

Girl never disappoint.

[@benenglishtx]

I've performed under the baton of someone like Fletcher. Don't get me wrong; I could have never made a living as a bassoonist. Ultimately, I didn't have the talent. I really should thank him for getting me away from the business before I wasted too much of my life. But he made me hate playing so much I left all forms of musical performance behind probably sooner than I should have. I haven't touched a bassoon or clarinet or piano or guitar or raised my voice in song in over 40 years. This movie was really triggering to me and that's hard for me to say since I'm an old, grey boomer who makes fun of triggered snowflakes. This film, though? It's a masterpiece; I freely admit that. But if I had bumped into JK Simmons right after I saw it the first time, well, let's just say that his performance hit me so hard that I would have been unable to separate the role from the actor in my mind and heart. Violence would have ensued and I would have been entirely to blame but I don't think I could have stopped myself.

[@Divine_R]

If the result is turning the student to be averse to music, that's more of a curse than blessing and shouldn't be something to thank

[@Nightwalk444]

@@Divine_R Fletcher type of people make legends, everyone doesn't want to be a legend though, so it's not fit for everyone

[@codyprice2616]

This was JK Simmons Oscar winning role. What’s awesome the way this is written is that he is one of the first villains in film history that only wins if the hero wins, but he is a villain that never loses either, because his one goal is to find and develop that next living legend of music. I think Adam Sandler’s character in Hustle said it best “You are talented but are you obsessed. Obsession trumps talent every time.” There are better ways of finding that obsession, but Fletcher only knows one way to do that.

[@ngsrkive]

"sit back and relax" u really didn't know what was coming 😭

[@theleegngames556]

well, it is hard but really effective way of teaching. Soft talk doesn't make you grow, or does but slowly. Pain and stress makes you grow as a person and in whatever you doing

[@misterbones5981]

Whiplash, one of the few movies i only watched once but i remember all of Fletchers insults so well for all usage 🤣🤣

[@israelarias9815]

You dont know what someone needs to get to their greatness.

[@alucardvekkia3966]

33:22 honestly i don't get why Americans have this culture of getting far away from their parents (no offense to Tory). I'm latino, i'm 25, and everyone's at our old home; mom and dad, my aunties, 1 uncle, cousins, and me. i mean it is stressful sometimes not gonna lie, but otherwise is beautiful

[@QueenTofu]

It could be attributed to American culture being more dominantly individualistic as opposed to more collectivist cultures! I also just wanted a drastically different lifestyle (25, working, living in downtown city in PNW) than my Dad (72, retired, rural-town in desert).

[@SilverShadow02]

Americans are selfish, you can see it in our media

[@Dg_Gaming_YT887]

I finally watched Whiplash for the first time a week or two ago, and I did like the movie.

[@HomespunBannersglare]

Fletcher: What will you have after 500 practicing hours?! Neiman: You, Fletcher! I'd have you!

[@Gigawicket]

Along with Daniel Day-Lewis, Meryl Streep, and Cristoph Waltz -- JK Simmons put up one of the best performances I've ever seen here. When you *hate* a character, the actor did something right.

[@axx6435]

This a perfect ending. There’s nothing more to add to the story.

[@meatball5336]

Im SO confused. At like 33:05 or so she said her dad isn't dead, hes just back in Arizona. But she said he died eleven days ago. What am i missing?? Im so sorry if he passed away but im still so confused. Someone help.

[@QueenTofu]

This was recorded in June. A lot of people's videos are recorded in the past, way before they're actually uploaded.

[@GrouchyKraut]

Perfection at what cost. Andrew probably going to end up like Sean

[@Collin_H]

33:00 coming to this after watching interstellar with you hits so different😢

[@davehazel5632]

Hey girl. since you said you're a Miles Teller girlie, I don't know if you've ever seen Only The Brave, if not you gotta watch that movie. It is GREAT. Miles Teller is fantastic in it and so is Josh Brolin. This is the first reaction of yours I've seen and I really enjoyed it. Also, if you haven't seen Jojo Rabbit, 12 Strong and After Hours (a dark comedy by Martin Scorsese), you should do yourself a favor and check out those movies. I'll be checking into more of what you have reacted to after this. Keep up the great reactions.

[@stephenniehaus8635]

You're so articulate and intelligent. I love watching your reactions

[@sushijuice6895]

nah Fletcher isnt the villain, Andrew is the protagonist which means that his goal is the quest which means if Fletcher is helping the protagonist reach his goal then he is not the villain, hes the hero. Andrew's father was pulling andrew down and keeping him from reaching his goal which means that ANdrew's father is the villain

[@mrselfridge8303]

holy shit the entire movie flew over your head

[@theunfunnyjokester]

@@mrselfridge8303fr wtf

[@syrupsnake302]

Cant believe u actually watched this, its such a good movie!

[@savagewraith]

While I would love to see you continue to react to the John Wick films, I would also love to see your thoughts on Blade Runner 2049. Due to some bad advertisement people reviewed it poorly when it first came out, but it has had a quiet growth in popularity as more people actually gave it a chance and saw what the movie was trying to say, the story it was trying to tell. You could watch the original Blade Runner as well as it does tie in, but it's not a requirement.

[@dangerousshoes]

Hi, I've never seen any of your videos and i really like how you've been able to grasp the different themes of this movie. Also, what you were talking about at 36:52? I feel the same way with fighting games. Mainly Granblue and King of Fighters. I go on and off with em and always tell myself that I want to be really good at them, and it's something that I kinda...struggle with. Heh, guess there's worse things to struggle with than a video game, huh? But yeah, the people that I've played sets with have been really kind and helped me get better, and I can't imagine how it would make me feel about the game if I had coaches and players like Fletcher.

[@Ahahabih416]

It's ironic how you don't understand that musicians lifestyles are so short

[@Stuffthatsfunny1]

I can't believe you could pause this movie😂

[@coolinnnnn]

The ending is Fletcher has finally found his Charlie Parker and Andrew has finally became or will become one of the greats. Also throughout the movie Fletcher calls Andrew Neiman while his real last name is Neyman yet another way of fletcher got under his skin 😂.

[@MM-vs2et]

The interpretation of the end is either a triumph or a fall to darkness. Depends on your own thoughts on the movie, either Neimann finally got the approval of his biggest obstacle towards greatness, and that's his triumph through hardwork and dedication. Or, that was Neimann becoming Sean Casey, becoming Bird. Both died at a young age because of the stresses of their passion.Alcoholism, drug abuse, depression, and early death.

[@TheDaringPastry1313]

I am under the impression that Fletcher's abuse paid off and he got what he wanted. His father was terrified that he had basically lost his son and Andrew will most likely go down the same exact path as Charlie Parker, ending his life sometime in the process because of the emotional torment. Fletcher won and Andrew lost

[@user-ek1xq9zq7m]

Now check out La La Land, a movie from the same director

[@shanybody]

When she was commenting on that out of tune scene, I was praying so hard "please pause the movie please pause the movie...", then afterwards it turned out she did, I was screaming inside "YEEEEEEEEEEEES I LOVE HER!!"

[@classicmovielover4056]

Fletcher is a villain 100%, but he's a villain I have respect for.

[@Keldarin]

Good job Harley! Thanks for all your hard work. I loved this video, I really enjoy your takes on the movies you watch. Whiplash is a hard movie to watch for me, Fletcher just thrives on the psychological torment of his subjects. I don't think he enjoyed Miles Teller turning the tables back on him at the end at all. It was performative and I think Teller is just like an abuse victim running back to their abuser for validation. Psychological abuse is a real mindf*ck, the highs and lows never hit the same after getting out of an abusive relationship.

[@ShreveportJoe]

Great job! That reaction was totally my tempo. 👍

[@linap5832]

Miles Teller is the freaking new age goat. He is not there because he is the "hottest boy" in the room, you know what i mean.. he is crazy good. I want to see a movie with Miles and Mia Goth so bad.. they are so cool

[@thingusbingus8181]

Miles Teller played the drums in every scene in the movie. For the last part he played all of it just in different sessions and they edited it together to look like it was all done in one go.

[@armando_alves]

Jazz❌️ Spy music✅️

[@potentiallyschizophrenic]

i’m glad you got to see this, it’s what i consider to be the best movie i’ve ever seen and one of my personal favourites. it’s one of those movies that a million people could watch and you’ll get a million different interpretations. ps, can’t wait for more batman 🥺

[@jasonrist6582]

J K Simmons portrays intimidating characters with aplomb, even that insurance commercial 😅

[@eldritchallure]

Just wanted to pop in to say that Raisinettes in popcorn is weird but plain M&M's in popcorn is a peak cinema experience.

[@LazyLampshade]

One of the few movies where the villain wins but almost no one notices because the ending is so spectacular.

[@timroebuck3458]

He wasn't tuning his drums, he was tightening his drum heads.

[@emanuelandrei7250]

25:53 wow , you really guessed it

[@Thomas-jo3fl]

Hey great commentary, the things you said about goals and drive really meant a lot thank you

[@Arenem88]

Omniman is also scary as shit IRL

[@YodatheHobbit]

43:00 When I first watched this without subtitles on I thought he said "I'll kill you."

[@MyAlternativeForm]

I recommend watching Deadpool next. (Also sorry for your loss, its very tragic to lose a parent)

[@paulf1461]

Without adversity there can be no achievement.

[@littleghostfilms3012]

Great insights into the characters underlying psychological states and hidden agendas. You were so far ahead in seeing things coming down the pike later. Fletcher was a total manipulator, and justified his abuse as trying to create his version of Charlie Parker, and in that drive he subjected everyone else, the other band members, friends and family of them, to the stray bullets of his mania. A total toxic environment that trickled down to making those below him callous and cruel. The fact that Neiman rose to the challenge doesn't justify all the misery created by Fletcher. Neiman could have easily died in that accident, or committed suicide at some point. Fletcher would then be lying years later about his death to future students, thus continuing the cycle.

[@pgryan1057]

Back when I was in middle school (or primary school depending on how you see it...) We had teachers just like Fletcher... Unruling and perfectionists... Everyday was a drag and we always felt like leaving school and going back home to complain about our struggles to our parents... Or we (just like in the movie) would stay silent about it... But in the end, they just wanted the best for us... I guess... (Sorry if the first part of the comment started off a bit grim...), but yeah, they just wanted the best for us...

[@pgryan1057]

That's actually why I see Fletcher's point of view as slightly reasonable... Slightly anyway... If you can see that he just wants the best, he doesn't seem so... Nihilistic or whatever... So yeah... That's that, good day 😁😁

[@pgryan1057]

And no, to anyone reading, I'm fine ✋✋

[@piewdisiegaming]

jk simmons was right about his method

[@ogey_elise]

kinda like Full Metal Jacket, but for jazz musicians.

[@johnalley8397]

Wow. I really enjoyed this reaction. You were brilliant, insightful and funny. You are quite excellent at this. Point Break, please.

[@KanderUdon]

Ugh, whiplash is so good

[@sagitswag1785]

"abit of the tism" 💀💀😭😭😂😂😂

[@ShellDogFTW]

What Fletcher said to Andrew in the Jazz club about how there's no two words in the English language more harmful than "good job" is true imo. I'm no musician, but I box. I shouldn't be boxing because my coordination isn't the best cause of my Autism, and my cardio isn't the best because of my asthma. If it wasn't for my coach telling me not to use those as excuses and pushing me every day, I wouldn't be where I am rn. I currently instruct beginner level boxing classes, and prepping to start doing amateur fights. We need to push ourselves outside our comfort zones, because imo, there's nothing worse than living a life without knowing what we could've accomplished and what we are actually capable of

[@kevingonzalez1332]

I recommend Deepwater Horizon. They do a really good job with all of the characters. You love and feel for everyone. It's so good. Would love to see you react to it.

[@SimaoMachado97]

I really enjoyed your analysis, Tofu, especially on Fletcher's character, methods and ideological flaws. I've seen people sort of gloss over his abusive ways with the main argument of "it was worth it in the end", and boy can I not describe how much that pisses me off lol so it was great to have you dissect him the way you did On a personal level, I wasn't aware your father passed away, my condolences. I read that you got to be with him before he passed, and I'm truly glad you had that opportunity. My father passed away unexpectedly in February, and one of the few things that gives me comfort was that he had a happy last day, with me close to him (last thing I told him was good night, which had a sort of finally that kinda helped me in the aftermath, strangely enough). All the best to you and your family.

[@freelancespartan]

Incredibly, this movie lets the villain win. And this whole film was done in 2 weeks. Won so many awards. It's a phenomenal project.

[@HaroonKhan-ov4ru]

How did the villain win?

[@jacksonconstantine5740]

@@HaroonKhan-ov4ruhe unlocked andrew’s potential

[@ilearncode7365]

This movie is too high IQ to have a “villain”. It has characters, and they have multiple traits. Its not a capeshit movie

[@sashashlyapik1488]

When Fletcher said "you're think I'm a fool? I know it was you" he mean that he know that Andrew is that great musician that he found. (Sorry for my English)

[@mrselfridge8303]

no he knew it was neiman who snitched on him that got him fired

[@pranksterboy8371]

Best Reaction to this movie I’ve seen so far.

[@YodatheHobbit]

God damn hear you talking about the Red Dead cosplays gets me all nostalgic. Wish Red Dead 3 would just suddenly appear already. Maybe I'll just rewatch your whole RDR2 playthrough. Anyone else see a similar villainy between Dutch and Fletcher?

[@heron619]

Wow that Ketheric Thorm guy is really good at acting apparently!

[@tehdesp]

The ending, like many things, isn't meant to bring you joy. Fletcher wins. That final shot just before the credits is reminiscent of a mad scientist unveiling his creation to the world.

[@brandonspencer5594]

It’s a matter of perspective really

[@thepapavulture8322]

@@brandonspencer5594 the director of the film disagrees

[@onlyNOOB-c4e]

like this movie first time i saw it was in a movie theater and it fucking crazy

[@JT-Rebel]

That's what I love about Whiplash. The meta for films is "movies always have to end in a happy or hopeful ending". BELH!!!! That's so played out and even though this movie is 9 years old the meta is still the same. Don't get me wrong, I love movies that end "normally". This movie feels so grounded in reality that in order for Andrew to reach his "final form" he basically had to become the monster that Fletcher is always trying to create. And you know damn well that in real life horrible people like Fletcher exist. He doesn't deserve to be in prison- but that's not going stop us from hating him. The message is not that the protagonist got his redemption. The message is hurt people hurt people. Make sure you watch for the signs of a friend or loved one seeking approval if they're only receiving that approval from only the parents and no one else. They might decide a toxic & abusive person who shares the same passion is the only approval that they want.