White House Says: "No More Degrees!"

Finally, the White House announces a big change for tech workers within the federal government! No more degrees!
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[@dannyg8741]

I'm 3 semesters away from finishing my degree, I'm currently in building automation technology industry and not necessarily switching careers adding to my toolset. Cybersecurity is starting to be implemented heavily with smart infrastructure but I need more hands-on practice.

[@RobbieFlores]

I saw on your site there are no more openings for appointments. Just wanted to know, will there will be any openings in the near future? Thanks.

[@Zach160]

Hey Nicholas what would you recommend as a 17 year old about to go into my senior year to do should i just focus on my skills or go get a degree. I wont have to pay if i do because i joined the national guard they would cover it all for me.

[@AnasNisar-ng4ti]

Hello sir , i have completed my 12 grade and thinking to start with comptia security plus and then getting certificate in ceh these two certificates can help me finding a job

[@P8860]

They all utilize skill-based hiring and remove the four-year degree requirement in job postings "when appropriate". I wonder what qualifies as "when appropriate".

[@cmartin8093]

How much is the cyberpro program?

[@keyballa]

Thank you for this information

[@ianwilliams6013]

I also "DO NOT AGREE" with you concerning the curriculum in College/Graduate School. These courses are developed and taught by Industry professionals, so how does college not prepare you???? I agree with you on Certifications though. These are multiple guess tests that don't do anything, but a degree in Computer Science, Information Technology, Cyber Security, and/or Information Systems teaches you the foundation/building blocks of the profession which is key to success. A house cannot be built without a foundation, correct??? The same thing applies to Cyber Security.

[@jeremy8715]

In one scenario, let’s say you image a device but OneDrive did not install correctly. How do you correct that? Does any college curriculum cover that? Most likely not. That’s the scenario I faced (I used Google to figure bit out). One issue I do see is companies hiring people with bachelor (in any major) for an IT/IS/cyber role over someone with an A.A.S. IT/IS/cyber. One with the Associates has the foundational knowledge vs someone with a Bachelor in medical technology. Certificates that are hands on are good but a lot are mostly multiple questions. While others have a limited hands on portion.

[@jawwad1189]

I still need certs right?

[@NicolasMoy]

Only for DoD roles

[@jawwad1189]

@@NicolasMoy Okay I am in the process of getting my degree also studying for certs

[@NicolasMoy]

Keep doing what you are doing but make sure to take time to develop your skills! Many students struggle to land a job when they solely depend on degrees and credentials.

[@ianwilliams6013]

This is a bad idea. All Cyber positions are not TECH oriented. You need education to write and interpret policy and to brief technical/non-technical audiences. I read papers, technical/non-technical. When reading these papers, I find so many grammatical errors. EDUCATION COUNTS!!!!!!!! CYBER is not just TECH, especially in the Governance, Risk Management, and Compliance (GRC) space. You are basically dumbing down the profession. In this area, you will find yourself giving reports, status updates, etc., to Senior Management, and if grammatical, spelling, or mathematical errors exist in your report, you will not look very good to them.

[@Youonlyloseyourself]

@@ianwilliams6013while I do understand that but do understand that a degree doesn’t solve that issue that you mentioned. However these days degrees are used as check the box and get through HR. Doesn’t mean the individual knows how to look at a technical document, or making recommendations to a policy. This stuff can be developed on the job as well however an interview can tell who you’re getting to add to the team. I bet there will be maybe some skills based entry point ie assessments. I did those for CISA

[@Dreaminmiles22]

Wouldn’t skills based hiring make it harder for people trying to break into the industry? The reason we study for certifications and earn degrees is to show proof we have some beginner level knowledge of the field. How would you show proof with a skills based hiring approach if you have no experience?

[@Lab_Analyst]

Projects/labs. Writing articles/blogs or maybe making some form of content. Anything that shows you’re actively growing your skills.

[@ultravioletiris6241]

@@Lab_Analyst lol 90% of hiring managers don’t look at any of that crap.

[@Lab_Analyst]

@@ultravioletiris6241 so answer their question

[@DallasFort1857]

Would cybersecurity be outsourced?

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