White Star destroys Centauri Blockade

[@nathanberry5805]

The ‘bonehead maneuver’ was a great example of mankind’s most dangerous weapon…’hold my beer’.

[@CRAZYUNCLE117]

When the shadow vessel comes out of the get, you can actually see it turn and say, "What they hell?" Before it tries to run saying "Oh shit!"

[@Damons-Old-Soul]

My two favorite scenes with the Whitestar are both after the Shadow War. One is President Sheridan calling the Ambassadors of the Nonaligned Worlds to watch as the Whitestar fleet defends one of the worlds that had been dealing with raiders. The other is. Delen and a fleet of Whitestars taking a beating from one of the races left behind by the Shadows, only to turn back, regroup and destroy those that came after them.

[@sumanadasawijayapala5372]

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[@gatedude07]

I also like when Babylon 5 is being attacked by a new raider race, and any help is hours (maybe days?) away. Except one of the White Stars managed to get there early. In the middle of this seemingly hopeless battle, a jump point opens and this White Star just dives straight in and starts kicking alien ass.

[@Damons-Old-Soul]

@@gatedude07 When was this in the series? I don't remember it off hand.

[@allynflinchbaugh4570]

@@Damons-Old-Soul That was season 5, when Lockey was Captain. It was the episode the focused on the two workers Mack and Bo.

[@schumi9xwdc]

The Drakh, they were the species city Sheridan nuked on Zahaduum, and were attached to Londo at the end of his life.

[@davidgriego549]

The white star is my favorite ship in Babylon 5

[@raven4k998]

it looks like a chicken I kind of like it

[@chrisdewfall7920]

Tie between that and the omega class destroyer for me

[@CS-zn6pp]

It's my favourite too.

[@ivaneames4354]

2nd favourite for me. My absolute favourite is the Shadow battlecrab.

[@chrisdewfall7920]

@@ivaneames4354 that’s easily gonna be my third , but it’s a tie between that and the white star

[@bacardimonk]

Been re-watching this series over the last week, and watched this episode last night :P , still as good as it was back in the 90's

[@chriscampbell7895]

On DVD? Or is a channel covering show again

[@kineticdeath]

im not a huge fan of these edits but i guess its a purely space action cut - which leads me to my main point. I've always loved how the shadow vessel - upon dropping out next to the sabotaged gate - turns, observes what is happening and attempts to flee, but obviously way too late

[@pruje]

Yeah, this was painful to watch. This must be what it's like to have ADHD.

[@asvarien]

I would think that the explosion ocurred in hyperspace as well as real space, so it was screwed either way.

[@zhugeliange5816]

I also liked the scene when Delen shows up with Minbari cruisers to save Sheridan during thr breakaway from Earth scene. Total badass.

[@gatedude07]

This isn't the first time the Shadows encountered a White Star. The first time was many years ago during the construction of Babylon 4, which the Shadows tried to destroy. I like to imagine the look on their faces when this mystery ship, which blew up several fighters and a bomb years ago and then vanished, suddenly shows up out of nowhere to blow up a Centauri blockade. Then seems to run for it, only to lure their own battleship into a trap. Shadows: "Who the hell ARE these guys!?"

[@gatedude07]

@@grayscribe1342 Right; I'm assuming Shadow vessels have some sort of real-time link with one another or something. Especially given that they are basically drones, it would make sense that some Shadow group/control center would be keeping an eye on their ships. Especially given Babylon 4's unique interest to them. But that is just supposition.

[@asraarradon4115]

I imagine they would be asking, "What do they want?"

[@saquist]

I'm sure the Shadows knew it was Minbari. It's rather obvious

[@темныйангел-н3я]

No- Shadows knew about it (role of B4 ) and from what age B4 coming from, that was the reason they wanted to destroy B4 in present so that it doesnt fall into the past

[@kmarasin]

I think they knew it was from the future, and it's easy to see from the design that it's Minbari/Vorlon.

[@strikeforcealpha9343]

God I miss this show.

[@cliftonconnor9389]

Just binged watched Babylon 5 on HBO Max. Loved it again. Didn't realize how much I missed in season 5.

[@asvarien]

The episode where the dead return and talk to the living, Captain Lochley delivers the message from Kosh to a stunned Sheridan... that gave me shivvers.

[@andreww2098]

we called it the bonehead maneuver, No offense!

[@affor3]

None taken😂

[@Reoh0z]

"It looks like an angel!" "I thought you said it looked like a plucked chicken?"

[@christophermiller3581]

Very nice work well done endeavors I take my hat off to you and your team to show true respect. Thank you for sharing this

[@deathstrike]

Considered one of the most beautiful ships in Sci Fi. The Minbari Whitestar Class is a different breed of ship. Emphasis was made on the "whole ship" concept and with the fusion of Minbari and Vorlon technology, this ship is possibly the most formidable warship ever fielded. Containing exotic bits of Vorlon technology (shields/bio skin/learning computer) this vessel is extremely powerful for its size (about 475 meters) and carries about 150 crew. This could be Babylon 5's answer to Star Trek's Defiant Class. The Whitestar is the smallest ship to create it's own hyperspace entry point (Power equal to a Stargate or a very large starship). It is far more maneuverable, often cited as being equal to an Earthforce Starfury fighter in maneuverability. And carrying enough firepower to take on an Earthforce Omega Shadow X Battleship, or a Centauri Primus Class.

[@IRMentat]

people slate a lot of the B5 CGi but they made effective use of what they had and unlike most of the other franchises the support ships and fighters MOVED around instead of almost always being part of a slugging match. reminded me a lot more of the battlestar galactica (OG series) than any of the other 90s sci-fi which all pretended at scale but rarely showed more than 2-3 ships at any time.

[@keithgolden77]

I loved how the fighters are more realistic in their movements, actually showing how they use thrusters to change heading while still moving in same direction. That kinda detail is sorely lacking from most sci-fi series and movies these days!

[@InfernosReaper]

It wasn't til after B5 that other scifi had ship combat in 3 dimensions to any noteworthy degree

[@andybrown4284]

So many remember the bonehead maneuver but most forget the location was chosen to stop the world from being plundered after the race died out from a plague in series 2

[@ThatSlowTypingGuy]

Also convenient if the explosion turned out to be a little too big.

[@everybuddy5924]

There were survivors that was off world at the time that didn't contract the plague. It would take hundreds of years for the survivors to become a race once again.

[@darthwiizius]

In respect ambassador I've heard that before.

[@SageofStars]

Stuff like this is why I'm REALLY curious just how powerful the Modified Earthforce Destroyers were in season 4. Those things, upgraded with Shadow Tech, take on, and BEAT, several White Stars in a straight fight. Yes, they lose eventually, since the White Stars outnumber them, but given just how powerful these ships are, in makes me wonder if President Klink really could have taken over the galaxy with them.

[@DarkAshenfall]

The thing to keep in mind about the B5 universe, while there is a tech tier, most aliens were actually very close in power level to one another. Aside from the First One's/Vorlon/Shadows. There was also no shield tech. Meaning every hit taken is felt. Theoretically, the Human's were capable of destroying Minbari vessels without too much of a struggle, but they lost so badly because the Minbari used a stealth tech that prevented Earth ships from locking onto them. The differences between the races came more down to small levels in weapons tech, other tech like the Minbari's stealth tech, or numbers. That taken into account, the Shadow-tech Omega's while advanced, weren't actually all that more dangerous to the Whitestars than any other ship. Plus Ivanova was reckless and not wanting any to escape. If she'd played it cooler, the Whitestars probably would have lost fewer ships. The Whitestars also did suffer losses against normal Omega's. The reason Whitestars were so good, was because of their speed and for their size, packed the kind of firepower usually only available to much much larger ships. The show was inconsistent with it at first, but a Whitestar was capable of taking out a Shadow vessel on its own, so its firepower for its size is more powerful than basically anything else at the time. They, however, were far from invulnerable. Relying heavily on speed to stay alive. Which, as the show displayed, worked most of the time.

[@SageofStars]

@@DarkAshenfall This is somewhat true. In fact that's one of the only reasons the younger races CAN fight the Vorlons and Shadows during the climax. Their ships are more destructive, but not necessarily too great on the defense. It's what allows six of the First Ones to take out that one planet destroyer, despite obviously not being as powerful. That said, do like the point about the Mimbari Stealth Tech being a big game changer. As JMS stated, that one piece of technology decided the war, as without it, Humanity would have been the one laying siege to Mimbar, with us simply out producing them as our ships can be built faster, and we have greater numbers than them. That being said, those Omegas take a huge amount of damage, more so than the Battlecrab class Shadow Vessels. Of course, as Springer in Transformers: The Movie says. Knocking em down's not the problem, it's gettin' em to stay down that's the trick, as while the Battlecrab was disabled faster, it took a lot longer a concentrated blast to actually destroy it.

[@DarkAshenfall]

@@SageofStars While I don't want to seem disrespectful of JMS, I do feel if that is what he actually said about the Human's, then he is clearly selling the Minbari short. I stand by what I said in my prior post, but the Minbari were no pushovers. Humanity would not have steamrolled them. At the very most without stealth tech, it would have been a bloody knock down drag out brawl. And the Omega's were no tougher than any of the other species ships. Gotta remember, the only time we ever saw them fighting was against each other. We never actually saw them getting hammered even by the Mimbari or any other species. Only against other Human ships. The Shadow vessels are actually very hard to take down. Now the show was a bit inconsistent at times, but in most scenes, it usually took a Whitestar or two, plus another major capitol ship all blasting at once to destroy a Shadow ship. And each ship had to continually fire. No breaks. Strangely, we never saw how the alliance fared against Vorlon ships, but I assume the same would have been true. Since the Vorlon's were on par with the Shadows in tech level. The First One's were not weaker than the Vorlon or Shadows. They were actually far stronger. It was expressly stated to be the case. That is why Lorien said they needed to be gathered up as allies, because without them, the battle would have gone very differently. They were needed to help bring the Vorlons and Shadows to the table. Otherwise, the two had become so consumed by their own moral superiority, that neither would have listened.

[@matts1166]

@@DarkAshenfall Vorlon ships were shown to have some form of shield tech, but for everyone else you'd be correct, no shields.

[@davidhenderson3400]

Very bad things happen when you open a jump point inside a jump gate.

[@Aetila]

Ah, the Lightwave wars... :-) I loved B5!

[@davidgriego549]

Of all the starships in Babylon 5 this one is my favorite

[@johncunningham4820]

The White and Blue stars are easily the Most Beautiful , Elegant ships in Sci-Fi . Punch WAY above their weight too .

[@Deevo037]

I kind of agree with JMS, they look like plucked chickens.

[@dmacbass]

So magnificent. If we could cross franchises, I would love to see White Stars and Defiants fighting side-by-side.

[@elvangulley3210]

@@dmacbass no thank white stars are primitive compared to trek ships

[@hlmc00]

If i remember correctly the ships exterior was a living tissue that learn to defend it self it also absorb energy weapons living only the kinetic DMG

[@straycat1674]

I heard talks about making the show again. I don’t remember what that was and when they were looking at doing it. But imagine what they could do with the show with modern technology. It could be incredible. As well, imagine what these ships would look like with modern cinema technology.

[@bobsurface908]

Good old Amiga graphics... nice!

[@watcherzero5256]

I only just remembered, destroying a Jumpgate in the Babylon 5 universe by galactic law is a war crime.

[@richmargin6082]

Ahhh the 90s CG with Lightwave

[@DrownedInExile]

Nice bit of continuity with the mention of the dead Markab homeworld and their expendable jump-gate. Plus if the Whitestar had tried to open a jump-point, the Shadow cruiser would have disrupted it, as they did with the ill-fated Narn fleet at Gorash 7.

[@Proximax9]

wonder if there is a reason why the shadow ship doesnt disrupt the jumpgate. Is jumpgate more powerful and thus out of shadow ship's capabilities?

[@DrownedInExile]

@@Proximax9 I believe the Shadow cruiser wasn't looking to destroy the Whitestar, but find out who they were. Even if they could disrupt the jumpgate, doing so would probably damage or destroy it. Tampering with the hyperspace beacon network could very well harm the Shadows' interests.

[@Privatepain1234]

@@Proximax9 as you saw, fucking with a jumpgate is more dangerous then messing with a jump window

[@Proximax9]

@@Privatepain1234 could be. However I don't think it has ever been shown in the series what happens if you open two jump points in the same coordinates :D

[@Privatepain1234]

@@Proximax9 I think they already did. Just it was magnified by a jumpgate.

[@tyranusfan]

One of my favorite episodes.

[@vulpixgrant]

I though this was a decent for 2021 fan made animation, when I read your description I had to go check. This is the actual CGI from the episode, that blows my mind! No wonder Star Trek stuck with Models as long as they did, even the original broadcast pre remaster TNG or DS9 still looks good. I never watched Babylon 5 growing up, I liked Trek and Knight Rider as my Sci-Fi fix. I'm sure after watching a couple episodes it wouldn't be that noticeable, but for a first impression wow.

[@nathanodonovan6708]

I do highly recommend Babylon 5. The CGI definitely doesn't hold up today, but it's probably one of the best sci fi series ever made. It's got an almost Tolkein-esque feel to it.

[@RaymondBCrisp]

@@nathanodonovan6708 Seasons 1 thru 4 are some of the best sci-fi ever written. I agree with your assessment of a Tolkien-esque quality, that being they created their own universe and didn't just copy what others had done.

[@biocapsule7311]

While the CGI doesn't, the story & politics of B5 hold up and made even more relevant these days, it is still unmatched even in the era of the Expanse (which is a different kind of sophistication). But one good thing about the use of CGI is that they are mostly tailored to the episodes. Star Trek models while great often reuse a lot of the footage because their major battles are rarely important to the overall plot. IT is very glaring especially if you watch DS9 back to back. B5 on the other hand, most of their major battles are named and fought very differently, the events are detailed, plot relevant and the CG are tailored accordingly, they almost never reuse footage just because all the ship involve are the same.

[@aycemanm8151]

@@biocapsule7311 I agree with your assessment it really does hold up with the plot and politics and I wonder how the remake will approach the similar topics. But I myself cannot get into the expanse I don't know why, I find it completely boring.

[@biocapsule7311]

@@aycemanm8151 Yes, I am very excited by the idea of a remake by Straczynski, wouldn't be as excited if it was anyone else. As for the Expanse, it really depends on what attracts people, the 2 shows are complex in very difference ways. It's kind of like the Martian, very good movie, the book is kind of dry. The Expanse is likely the best adaptation of a book series to TV. It is fairly close to the book in the most relevant areas, both are great personally but the book significantly more detailed on almost every aspect. The commonality the 2 universe share is likely the details of world building, except Expanse ranges from either a lot more low tech hard sci-fi to god tier old ones, then B5. And focuses heavily on how the system works. Think B5 but only in-depth focus on humans, because there are no 'others' that isn't alien to the point of incommunicable. It is possible that you might like the book and not the series. I would say that the Expanse is actually one of 2 book series I know of with the most realistic depiction how space battle should work (even when there's very little of it), and that's not even the area it excels in. B5's battle are well tailored for it's plot and has some great ideas, but it's perspective of the scale of 'space' still works like cinematic space opera.

[@JamieLawrence-o8d]

It is the best shows I've seen. I just researched my b5 box set it us great.😊😊😊

[@GaldirEonai]

1:45 : "...I've made a terrible mistake."

[@DrewLSsix]

This just raises the question of why a ship would have an aft jump engine??

[@kineticdeath]

i dont think it necessarily matters as we see in another episode a group of earth destroyers and cruisers abandon B5 after Delenn appears with some Minbari ships. Those earth ships form the jump points behind them as they spin about to leave. I see the advantage of opening a jump point directly in front being to simply get into the vortex quicker, but if theres an angry enemy directly in front of you, or an angry delenn warning you to come no closer, turning and departing is a safer move, just open the jump point behind as you turn then leave

[@asvarien]

Maybe for redundancy, don't wanna get stranded with only jump drive.

[@rfletch62]

Great CGI for its day. Amiga's Video Toaster 90's era. I think it was replaced by Macs later. Helped a lot to keep the show's cost to an acceptable level.

[@tuchehstone]

After all these years, it STILL looks like a plucked chicken!

[@Reoh0z]

They look like little angels.

[@Twirlyhead]

@@Reoh0z What, plucked chickens ?

[@shauljonah6955]

I wish this show would come back on TV

[@STriderFIN77]

they made amazingk job with HMAX remastering, and yes there will be 'new story, soon on tv

[@TroyDashiell]

They announced a few months ago that they were doing a reboot of the series on the CW

[@STriderFIN77]

@@TroyDashiell kinda sad, and Not as they dont render it with Amiga nomore \o7

[@jakobbraun5180]

in todays times they would ruin the show

[@godslayer1415]

would be better with better writing, better casting and better acting - the original had none of those.

[@zephyr8072]

John "Nuke Em" Sheridan Blows you up with nukes. Or jumpgates. Or nukes and jumpgates.

[@GaldirEonai]

In terms of SciFi captains... Picard argued with Q. Sisko hit Q. Sheridan would have kicked Q in the nuts and then stolen his wallet.

[@ficklefingeroffate]

Implementation of The Bone-Head Maneuver.

[@babylon5reimaginedseries]

Can't wait for the new series to start!

[@davidpickens8800]

I love the WhiteStar over the Defiant 1000x more. When faced with an impossible threat, the Federation makes 1 fighting vessel. On Babylon 5 they make a fleet of them.

[@descendinguniverse]

They say by the end of Dominion war they had a plethora of Defiants though we didn`t see most of them. Including the Voyager episode, I think there were like 4 shown. They also put other designs specifically for combat. Akira, Steamrunner, Norway, Centaur, Peregrine, while also developing multi-purpose Sovereign and Prometheus (after the war)

[@davidpickens8800]

@@descendinguniverse Akira and all those designs dont matter since none of them were a Hero Ship. Did any of them receive more 30 seconds of screen time?

[@descendinguniverse]

@@davidpickens8800 Probably no, but what does it prove? Why do you classify Whitestar as a "hero ship". Only those Whitestars that contain important characters have a plot armor, others are just regular ships. The only difference is that Starfleet just has a variety of different classes that don't demonstrate impressive back stunts

[@davidpickens8800]

@@descendinguniverse how can you tell that starfleet has anything but Galaxies and other older designs that were ill prepared for their use in combat. It wouldn't be a huge cost to Paramount to have a newer ship docked at DS9 or the Starbase that Admiral Ross commanded from. Hero props are the ones that the main characters use, the noname redshirts use aren't hero props

[@Revan2908]

@@davidpickens8800 You can tell because there are _Akira_ and _Steamrunner_ class ships fighting the Borg Cube in _First Contact._

[@MYDOGBUD]

Whitestar needs a pilot joystick upgrade, one pilot one ordnance officer sitting pilot to co pilot and a engineer sitting close behind at a power network station so maneuvering, fire control and power allotments can be done simultaneously..THAT would make the Whitestar almost unstoppable..as it is now setup like typicle trek fashion reactions to live situations are just too slow..

[@whitestar73]

I approve of this message 😁

[@mrtencza]

My favorite B5 ship!

[@chriscattelino8169]

A little comment to content creators and KZbin. When I open KZbin I get a screen full of videos to choose from. I see 2 I want to watch, so I click the first one and watch, then I back out to watch the second one and KZbin promptly changes all of the videos on my screen, depriving me of the video I want to watch and depriving content creators of views. Not good business KZbin!

[@lorrainesandison1578]

Ah!❤️ Yes, the 'Bonehead' maneuver.!! Classic.😊

[@МихаКалита]

Помню этот эпизод с двойной зоной перехода.

[@travistrainor3394]

B5 was awesome

[@darrinwebber4077]

Yeah...back in younger days...I copied White Stars to use in my D&D space campaign. It was fun.... Using magic rules to simulate high tech.

[@miafillene4396]

White Stars had the firepower of a cruiser packed into the frame of a Corvette. They were BEENSY. And honestly quote fragile. But you had to actually manage to hit the wee buggers and that is where they shine. Outmaneuvering everything then using a neutron laser as powerful as a Sharlin Cruiser from any and all angles? Ouch.

[@CptFoolKillah]

Fragile?! I say good day!! Ha.. but seriously I would argue they were pretty tough. Anything less than First One tech they could take with no issue.

[@miafillene4396]

@@CptFoolKillah Mmmm I disagree. But since they were pack hunters, they were naaaaaasty. Three of them? Any ship, even minbari, would go down. One destroyed white star, one damaged. Guaranteed.

[@derpherp2360]

@@miafillene4396 ehh if i recall the whites stars and sharlin cruiser had the same tracking, ecm tech and propulsion but the white had vorlon bio armor tech. ide give a 1v3 fight a 50/50 as the sharlin could out gun but not out pace the white stars.

[@GaldirEonai]

IIRC in the old pen-and-paper RPG that armor was listed as basically invulnerable to anything less than a Sharlin's main battery. The shadow-boosted main guns on the upgraded Omegas just about managed to get there but none of their secondary armament made any impact.

[@donaldmach7150]

In my opinion, the White star is the sleekest, most badass looking ship in the Syfy world! Though much smaller, Starfleet's scorpion class fighter would be my choice! Total crew compliment: 2!

[@Darqshadow]

Yea but even with Shields the output of most B5 ships would murder that flyer

[@kenp7814]

:03 Ship uncloaks ?

[@derpherp2360]

bit more like phases in and out of hyper space. though shadows did have gnarly ecm gear.

[@kellyrayburn4093]

Kind of hard to hit it if you can't catch it. Oh it can probably be hit, but you'll use the majority of your armament just hitting one of those things.

[@kitsinu1]

That's one down.

[@DarthVader-1701]

Even though I love both the defiant and the white star, the white star is the original ship.

[@silvercat18]

Its impressive how far the defiant came - it started life as an unreliable piece of junk that would tear itself apart when you flipped all the switches. The Minbari would definitely have respected the skills of Chief O'Brien. Of course, the Minbari win out for just going "here is a whole fleet of super powered ships". Starfleet just sucked when it came to making large amounts of anything for the fleet.

[@Rick.Grimes.01]

0:44

[@robertsilva1016]

What would be a great crossover between Babylon 5 and Star Trek Deep Space Nine

[@dmacbass]

White Star and Defiant flying side-by-side, kicking Jem'Hadar and Shadow ass! 😈

[@elvangulley3210]

@@dmacbass lol a white star couldn't hurt any trek ship they are way to primitive b5 is several hundred years behind trek in tech

[@DarthVader-1701]

The White Star and the Defiant are the same ship per se. CBS ripped off B5 to make DS9. I loved both shows though.

[@Deevo037]

Ah the bonehead maneuver.

[@mikebreeden6071]

I think that was the "Bonehead Maneuver"... no offence intended.

[@Daehawk]

Whitestars were cool but they also looked like the bones of a full eaten chicken to me.

[@abelfaber4457]

now i like DS9 but let's be honest, Bab5 stood the test of time a lot better.

[@goiterlanternbase]

At least it is a collage, not just plains stolen content👍

[@-JA-]

💖

[@devo1977s]

Ah I remember watching Babylon as a teenager and think how awesome the special effects were, now I see better Special effects playing Halo 🤣 crazy how fast technology improves

[@unluckyalf2007]

I believe that special effects were rendered on a Video Toaster which used the Commodore Amiga platform. Pretty amazing tech at the time!

[@MandoMTL]

Cutting edge graphics for the day, no doubt requiring equipment valued likely in the 6 digits (?). I do very much appreciate the drop of entry cost for these sorts of productions, but it certainly has reduced overall quality.

[@kennethfalconer2513]

The first three seasons used Video Toasters from Amiga. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_Toaster

[@Espanets]

👍👍👍👍👍

[@IIISentorIII]

I always did hope that finally The Expanse would be the "new" Babylon 5 in a way for me. Sadly in the end i was just like GoT and did "fade" away in the last seasons =/ I always loved Joe Miller and the city sets in the early season and when he was gone the show lost something that even with Bobbie was not enough of me. The Marco Inaros and especially Filip did kinda ruin the fun for me since they had so much screentime i simply was bored of that story arc and didn't care at all :)

[@Tonydjjokerit]

aaah The Bonehead Manoevre

[@adamcraig9059]

The bone head manoeuvre

[@morriganravenchild6613]

I'm fed up with these 'shoot 'em up' sci-fi series. Brainless!

[@khattiseitap3367]

What would be a "Brainy" sci-fi series?

[@morriganravenchild6613]

@@khattiseitap3367 The original START TREK storylines kept you guessing about what was going to happen - compared with this 'shoot 'em up' stuff which is kinda boring..

[@derpherp2360]

@@morriganravenchild6613 who will the star trak captain hit on next?! right?

[@morriganravenchild6613]

@@derpherp2360 ........yawn.........

[@derpherp2360]

@@morriganravenchild6613 thats some "trek level clever" rebuttal ya got there morri lol.

[@michaelhband]

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