White Tractors - Tractor Tour, Tractor Talk Part 2

Going through the White tractors working on the farm. Few quick stats, stories and cold starts.

[@GMdieselman]

Thanks for the tour. That 2-135 is a real nice low hour machine. A few notes to add- Your 2-110 would technically be considered an “early” series 3. The models considered series 2 would be like a red stripe 2-85/2-105 with the shifter still on the floor. Also considered a series 2 would be any of the red stripe 2-135/2-155/2-180 that have the same shifting setup as your series 1 silver stripe 2-135. The models that have the updated modular cab, and the relocated shifter/throttle are considered series 3. The reason your 2-110 would be an “early” series 3 is because it has the steel roof. I have a 1982 2-110 like yours except it has MFWD. In 1983 they came with a plastic cab roof that had the lights integrated in them. Also the 2-88’s and 2-110’s had an updated version of the 354 Perkins referred to as the DOT 4 model. They had an updated block with no tappet covers on the right hand side. I believe there was also a design change in the head including machined inlet ports. Another interesting change between the early 2-88/2-110’s and the later ones, was a change in the axle manufacturers for the MFWD models. The early ones used a Clark like the older Oliver’s used. The later models used an axle from Soma (French Company). Not trying to correct you, just figured I’d provide some extra tidbits. Thanks for the video!

[@crazydave4455]

Thanks for info, I haven’t found a single place (website) that clearly defines the differences in the series, but see them listed as 1,2 & 3. Had some ideas of the differences, but wasn’t sure. I did know at some point they had a plastic roof but wasn’t sure when and what changed. Haven’t been around or ran any newer ones. I’ll pin this so guys interested in these tractors have additional info 👍 How is the MFWD? I’d like to get one with green paint.

[@GMdieselman]

There isn’t too many sites that go into detail about the little differences between series. I’ve studied these from some books and brochures I have. Plus having been around and driven them as well. The MFWD is nice, just have a bigger turning radius obviously. Would love to have an Oliver MFWD, but those are getting collectible/spendy now. There’s weird little differences with all these series. Like a Series 3 steel roof cab had its own specific flasher lights. They were different from Series 1 and 2, and obviously different from the Series 3 plastic roof models. They were made to bend out of the way, for example if you brushed a tree branch on the edge of a field.

[@crazydave4455]

@@GMdieselman some of the little info I do know, might be from you on some of the forums 😂 think I’ve saw your name on yesterday’s tractors. There is/was a gas 1850 MFWD on market place in Pittsville WI for 10k, has a backhoe and loader hung it, might have had a tough life.

[@GMdieselman]

@@crazydave4455 you know, I don’t think I’m actually on Yesterday’s Tractors. If I am, it’s been so long that I don’t remember haha. I’m looking forward to seeing more videos on your Moline. Someday I’d like to get a Moline ZBU. As of now I have my White 2-110, an Oliver 990, and an Allis Chalmers 210. I’m currently looking for some tires for my 990. Sounds like I’m across the river from ya in Wisconsin. If you know of any 34” tires for sale I’d be potentially interested.

[@crazydave4455]

@@GMdieselman we’ve chatted before, you’re somewhere around River Falls if I remember right. You have some nice tractors, if I see any tires in a newsletter or the like I’ll try and pass it on. Moline’s are a little different, misfit tractors are part 3 😁

[@opasvintagegarage]

The 2-85 is my favorite out of the line-up. That is exactly what I'm looking for - thanks

[@pinesedgefarm1155]

I was thinking you guys only had two Whites.😂 Thanks for sharing.

[@crazydave4455]

Only 1 extra 😁

[@GosselinFarmsEdGosselin]

Nice tour! Nice that you know the history on them too👍

[@crazydave4455]

The Oliver’s have better stories 😁

[@GosselinFarmsEdGosselin]

@@crazydave4455 longer history 👍

[@jeffchattin4799]

The Hercules has a reputation for being very quiet and very reliable

[@crazydave4455]

It lugs !

[@Mainly-boy-outdoors]

I know someone not to far from where I live that Farms with white but I was driving by the farm the other day and noticed that they had an agco white.

[@joshk.6246]

Nice lineup. The only thing I wish they would have addressed sooner was the placement of the power steering cylinder. Besides that ( and white motor vampiring off Oliver into oblivion) they were good tractors, from Minneapolis-Moline, Oliver, cockshutt, and all leading into White. That heritage is pretty good and so unfortunate Agco ended up doing away with that.

[@crazydave4455]

It is something looking back at all the competing companies and technologies and seeing who made it. Deere still had hand clutches and 2 cylinders all the way to 1960 and they ended up being one of the survivors 😂. I think the 310 waukesha helped kill Oliver’s reputation, but that was already many years into whites management. (Siphoning cash off that division)

[@billking5407]

great tractors

[@danielhunsel7830]

Hey Dave I was just wondering on the 2-85 and the 2-110 does the model numbers start off the same as the hp like 285 or 110 ?

[@crazydave4455]

In this series the first number designates 2 or 4 wheel drive and after the dash is the claimed PTO HP. So the 2-85 is a 2wd @ 85 PTO HP. Later on they dropped the - but think it was still a HP rating and in the AGCO years I’m not sure how they are numbered. Tractordata.com is great resource for all models and makes.

[@danielhunsel7830]

@@crazydave4455 thank you I just bought one and the panels say 2-105 but the model number starts off as 285 so that’s why I ask.

[@crazydave4455]

@@danielhunsel7830 model number on the serial number tag? Not sure I could look next time I’m out. The 2-105 was replaced by the 2-110 (we had one of those too) The 2-105 has 354ci turbo Perkins like the 2-110 but with the series one cab. The 2-105 would be a similar to the 2-85 but with the turbo. Solid tractor !

[@pinseekergaming4760]

I WISH I COULD DRIVE 1 OF THOSE

[@AgWildNebraska]

Good overview

[@richardharms8748]

My dad hauled alot of those tractors from the factory. Good unit's. Nice video.

[@jeremycherny2041]

Your 2-135 is the same year as our 2-155 and looks the same. Our 2-135 is an 81 and has some differences

[@govegasorgofarmin7942]

Cool video! All get some use on em every year. If you could add any tractor to your fleet what would it be?

[@crazydave4455]

Oh boy, as a collector I like the early gas stuff. But for this era and to work with, I’ve wanted an Oliver model 1950 row crop, (Detroit diesel) also always wanted an open station Oliver 2255.

[@johndavidstutts]

Good to see the white tractors working. I got a 1750 and super 88 diesel. 1750 does most of my hay work. Got a 656 farmall with a loader,does rake work and back up.

[@thebreakofdon5188]

Nice white collection. Check out my 4-270. I have a couple videos of it on here.

[@BobGriff-o9s]

I. Have. 2. 85. 2. Io5. I. Like. Them

[@burningdinosaurs]

Dad's got a 2-105, silver stripe. I spent A LOT of time in that tractor, both as a rider and driver. It was our main tractor, and, I guess, still is his main tractor, although he pretty much only uses it for planting these days and everything is notill. Some excellent Whites there! Thanks for the tour. On to part 3!

[@crazydave4455]

I saw it in action in the planting video. We had a 2-105, got replaced by the 2-110.

[@jeremycherny2041]

Quite a few 1850s around my area. A few 105s. Never seen a 2-85 or 2-110. Dad bought a 2-135 new that I still have and I picked up a 2-155. We feed cows with a Case but if I would love to find a smaller white for chores.

[@crazydave4455]

They’re out there, I see them on auctions time to time. 1850, 2-85 NA Perkins. 2-105, 2-110 turbo Perkins. Similar feeling tractors. Those Hercules powered ones have a bit more 💪

[@jeremycherny2041]

@@crazydave4455 yes they pull well. The 2-135 with 11226hrs feels snapper then the 2-155 with with 4200hrs. I know dad had the engine overhauled and pump and injectors done about 7000hrs on the 2-135. I should have both dynoed and see how much hp they have.

[@toddgittins5692]

Plug that stuff in.

[@maxtrein532]

Sure love those White tractors 👍🏻💪🏻

[@devinstocker3215]

we have a 2-105 and we live up in northern mn its great for grinding corn for horses or baling hay

[@crazydave4455]

They are a nice size for that work 👍

[@ThatOliverGuyChris]

Great video! Thanks for the tour.

[@crazydave4455]

Thanks Chris!

[@johnpapa8681]

I drove a 2-155 and a 4-180 for lazy J farms in Princeton Tx. I liked them.

[@mikesimpson9565]

I was a mechanic at a white dealership . White is a tough tractor . I did not like the 4 wd tractors that had a o ring seperating the front to the rear the motor had to be pulled to replace a 50 cent o ring . They could have come up with a betyer desighn

[@tacomas9602]

Has anyone else with a 2-85/2-105 experienced a roasted/slipping clutch at merely ~4000 hours?

[@crazydave4455]

No clutch issues with any of these.

[@dwaynemoore1575]

Nice tractors clean the inside of them up wash the windows

[@crazydave4455]

It will just get dirty again 🤣 the 2-110 is getting a cab kit so it will be refreshed 👍