Euro Nymphing on a BUDGET - Start Euro Nymphing for Under $100

[@pugilist102]

I started with my 9’6” 3 Wt a week ago after watching your introduction to Euro nymphing series. Caught fish immediately, doubling or tripling my catch rate. Had trouble detecting takes and lost a good percentage of hook ups because my rod was too fast. Went and bought a mid priced rod, Reddington Hydrogen 11 ft 3 wt. Got my leader dialed in as well, 10 lb Maxima. Now I feel everything and haven’t lost a fish, yet. Thanks a lot.

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

That's awesome! The Redington Hydrogen 11' 3wt is my backup rod! I lost the top 5 inches on a guide trip but it still feels good!

[@petemartin3612]

I use a Epiphany 2wt 10’4” from the Moonshine Company. Really love the euro nymph rod. Even come with an extra tip section and comes with a no fault lifetime warranty.

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Thanks! I almost put the Moonshine Epiphany in the video actually.

[@adamament6882]

I’ve been using my Redington strike pro 2, and I love it!!! It’s a 10 ft 3wt, and I have it paired with their TILT reel. With the rod costing 350, and the reel costing 250, it ran me 600 total

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Yeah... that's an average setup cost most of the time.... Glad you're enjoying it!

[@jjod4858]

I can't think of any new ideas for you because your videos have everything the euro nymphing fisherman needs...

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

😊 Thanks!

[@AdiposePhin]

I got over to the Hoosick over this past weekend. The water was blue,clear and low, looked like the Caribean! I was able to put some euro nymphing to the test and caught a decent rainbow!

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Nice! Sounds like the water is in great shape there! Fish it now because by July 1 it'll probably be too warm to fish it.

[@stephanebogen5411]

I just wanted to add more to my original feedback/experience in Euro nymphing gears. I purchased this 3 weeks ago and it's been GAME changer in my nymph tying quality. Give it a try. I absolutely love it. EARYA Magnifying Glass with Light and Stand, 5X Real Glass Lens 8-Diopter Magnifying Lamp. AMZ. $30

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Thanks for sharing! I'll look into that! I use my studio lights for filming when I tie... It's pretty funny to have these 2 big box lights aiming down on my little fly vice... but I can see so well with them 😂😂😂 I wish I had a picture to show you. Oh and I ended up getting a scale off Amazon that seems to work really well for weighing my flies!

[@stephanebogen5411]

the 5X magnification is great - my flies are so much more detailed, and I do realize how very little dubbing I am now using compared to before. Amazing.

[@stephanebogen5411]

@@WhiteDogTrailCompany I expect you to show how heavy they are in future videos ;)

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

@@stephanebogen5411 I definitely will!!!

[@ryan5637]

I've gone with just bi-color sighter material for my leader. Saves some coin as there's less stuff to buy. Super simple.

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

I have some bi-color but have yet to really use it. I may try it in one of my leaders soon though to see how I like it.

[@BillEvans-t5u]

Would like to see leader setup tips… knots/tags for sighters and nymph/double nymph and weight tips

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

I have an entire euro nymphing series where I cover all of that. Check out the videos in that series. The playlist is here. kzbin.info/aero/PLuLwf7ym7i7bre38GWqk0pXZggydq3Z5m

[@scottmoyer4518]

Thanks i currently have a syndicate 10' 3 weight was under 300 love it. But after seeing my friend break a 1000 dollar rod im looking for a backup rod. So far ive lost count how many trout ive caught thanks to your tips. And ive spent maybe $600 for my initial setup and everything to get started.

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Thanks for the suggestion. I think Syndicate was on of the early makers of euro rods. I'm glad you're catching fish and the videos are helping!!! 😊

[@thornvfx]

@@WhiteDogTrailCompany Syndicate P2 rods are fantastic euro rods. And you're right, they were early in the game and focused exclusively on euro rods. If you give them a call, they will share the reel weights they recommend to perfectly balance specific models of their rods. At their price point, you'd be hard pressed to find a better rod.

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

@@thornvfx I've never used one but when I was first in the market there were very few Euro Rods available and they were one of the first I heard of.

[@herkimerjay]

Another flytastic video Bryan! You have become my internet euro fishing mentor! Every video you put out has made me a far better nympher. Im not sure if i missed the video.. but i think a video on fishing etiquette for the younger generation would be a great vid for the next generation of euro nymphers.

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

That's a good suggestion and I've had that request several times before. I think I need to add that into the series. Thank you!

[@Snitchols]

@@WhiteDogTrailCompany Part of this could be leave no trace as well.

[@Mouafishingthings]

Nice! Good points and good entry points for ppl who don’t wanna go all in yet ! Fenwick Aetos 10 ft 3 wt is what I got for my first euro rod. I got it for 125 dollars on Amazon a while ago and it works well!

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Oh sweet! I didn't see that one at all! I'll add it to the list! Thanks!

[@adventuring_with_MK]

I am trying to get back into fly fishing more this summer after doing it on and off for 2ish years. I think it would definitely be interesting to learn how to euro nymph, this video convinced me to check out some different sources on it!

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

I would love to see some more fly fishing videos from you 🙂 Either way I enjoy what you do, that you get out and have fun and respect the fish! "Thank you for biting" 🙂

[@johnsamothrakis4621]

Thanks for another Great Video, not sure what to add, because your euro Nymphing series was the best , but this video is a great way to get started 👍

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Thank You!!! 🙂

[@donrock9776]

Flies are a concern. Can I add a tungsten bead on the tippet to get down without spending a bunch of money tying new flies.

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

I think the most important thing is to learn how a good drift should feel. You might consider the drop shot method of adding weight below the flies as well. that way if something gets hung up it'll be the bottom weight and not your fly! I know the heartache of losing flies I've tied lol. Once you start to feel confident about how the drift should feel you can experiment with different weight flies and just use the flies as your weight.

[@seafly845]

Excellent video, your reference to your earlier videos is very relevant. Just recently been on a trip to the Tongariro River in New Zealand and tried the euro nymphing out, not very successful though. I have had great success on this river with wet lining, so euro nymphing is going to be a challenge. I am using a Traper GST 3 weight 10 foot 6 rod, combined with the Traper GST reel. I think I will need to revisit your earlier videos in order to improve on my own skills. Thank you for a very informative series.

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Definitely watch the euro nymphing series and hopefully that helps you get dialed in. I'll add that rod to the list for people to consider... I have not heard of that one before. Thanks!

[@decoeric]

I have the Orvis Clearwater Euro rod and I am extremely happy with it.

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Sweet! I've always wanted to try that one. I would love to try the Helios on the high end too!

[@yomama9833]

Great video on euro nymphing on a budget! I picked up a Shadow II used, with an extension kit. Maybe you could explore using a heavy braid instead of mono or a dedicated euro fly line? I use a braid line I think it's 65 lb test. You can get a spool in many colors and inexpensive like on Ebay. It's light, supple, sensitive, and no memory. Thanks for all your videos! I enjoy them all!!

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Thanks! That is something I have not tried yet!

[@robertwendel1805]

Are semi-automatic fly reels helpful ? I think the may be popular in Europe for nymphing?

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

I have never used one... and to be honest.. I cannot see myself ever using one.

[@Mbadly]

Get 2 waterproof markerpens, mark you leader in the style u like. Costs like 5 dollars. (asuming u already have some rod and lines to use)

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

I've heard of people doing that before.

[@phyzel9417]

I would love to see tips on how to fish smaller streams. There are tons of really nice small stream in my area.

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

I think Euro Nymphing is great on small streams... There are more defined runs for you to target and I find it a ton of fun! I do plan on doing a video on a smaller stream that is about reading water and fishing small streams. Thanks!

[@mikeney5113]

I think your doing and awesome job on the series.you have cover ton of info.thanks.

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

I appreciate that!

[@tomdickson4460]

Thank you

[@dennischafin9160]

I’m now using my first euro nymphing rod it’s a courtland 10 ft 6” I’m pretty pleased but I don’t how a lot to compare to. My son uses the orvis Clearwater 10ft and catches a ton of fish. I’ll interested in other peoples thoughts on the Courtland

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Which Cortland is it? Is their new MKII or the original Cortland Competition? I have a guide who has both the Sage ESN ($995 rod) and the Cortland MKII and he prefers the Cortland over the ESN! I have another buddy who has the new Cortland as well and he loves his too!

[@dennischafin9160]

@@WhiteDogTrailCompany it is the Nymph series 10’6” 3 wt. $299. I do like it but have not tried others in,actual fishing conditions. I did break the tip and got a replacement for $50 very quickly. I didn’t have to send it in like or is request that you do.

[@buckhayes2104]

Can I use a 4wt 9.5 ft ? My local store carries one and a 4 wt is light will it work for light stream work?

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

I would say use what you have available to you. It won't perform like a euro specific rod but that 9'6" 4wt is going to be a good all around rod for a lot of techniques! I like that it is a little longer than your typical fly rod so that will help with the reach you need when euro nymphing. if you find you like nymphing, then maybe you look to get a euro specific rod down the road! Best of luck!!!

[@keithrussell7652]

Great video, and thanks for putting it together!!

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@Raevenswood]

Based on my 20 years in the game I think that nothing rings more true in fly fishing than the saying "buy cheap buy twice". I would steer anyone on a budget to look to the used market for a previous generation top end rod rather than paying around the same money for a new model from a lower quality brand. 1. The lower end rods hold no resale value so when you want to move to a new offering you have no equity 2. The lower end offering might have 85-90% of the performance of the higher end offering but the cork and other components are cheap and won't last 3. There is a big difference in that last 10-15%% of performance that is noticeable and can really make using a piece of gear a joy. Bottom line is Fly fishing is expensive. I'm not rich but I realized early on that saving a little longer and getting something really good is a much smarter investment. I save money in other areas like mentioned here ... building my own leaders etc...

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

YEah... very good feedback and I totally agree!

[@HalfInsaneOutdoorGuy]

Came back and revisited this. I’ve spent the whole month of July learning about nymphing. At first it was really rough. And ended up using a bounce rig for a while. After I got my 11ft 3wt nymphing rod I really dug into it and like others have said tripled my catch rate at least! I’m sure I lose a lot because I don’t really see the takes but I certainly feel them! I have a cheap reel with weight forward floating line and rio’s 30 foot nymphing add on

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

That's awesome! I'm glad to hear you're coming along and enjoying euro nymphing!

[@gjbingham]

BTW - what type of fly do you generally use for the dropper? Another (possibly lighter) bead head? Standard nymph? Thanks!

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

My dropper really depends on a bunch of things! First thing I'm doing is looking at the bugs in the water by flipping rocks (if i don't already know the water well). I'll imitate what I see typically. If I'm fishing faster and deeper water I'll go with something a little bigger and heavier. For high water like that my favorite is my sexi stone as the point fly and a squirmy as the dropper. Deadly combo. Caddis nymphs are good for those conditions because they stand out a little better with their green color. Also nymphs with hot spots can be good in those conditions. Normal conditions I'm probably doing a standard nymph like my Peackock Ice Dub or a Walts Worm. In lower/clear water conditions my dropper is likely to be a perdigon. But honestly I change things up regularly to see what is working well for that river and the particular conditions I'm experiencing.

[@gjbingham]

@@WhiteDogTrailCompany Great answer! Thank you for taking the time to respond and spread the knowledge. Your help is greatly appreciated.

[@garypeters1441]

Great video, I picked up a used rod ( G Loomis imx pro e ) 10' 2wt from a fly shop Up Country in Conn. for almost 1/2 price so check some local fly shops for some deals on rods Been thinking of going straight 12lb Amnesia to my tippet ring than tippet tired of tying knots . anyways all ways like your video's and can't wait for more.

[@pugilist102]

You’ll have trouble casting with Amnesia, trust me I tried it. Amnesia is too supple. I use 10 lb Maxima chameleon connected to Cortland’s sighter material then to tippet ring.

[@garypeters1441]

@@pugilist102 I have the same set up but with 15lb Maxima, maybe I'll try 10lb Thanks for the heads up on the Amnesia

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Awesome! Definitely hit up and support your local fly shops! Ya never know what they might have! One of my favorite rods ever was from an Orvis shop in Virginia that had an amazing small stream rod for a crazy discount! I had no idea what I had scored until many years later!!!

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Thanks for the info on Amnesia! I had though about doing something similar at one point. I'll stick with the Maxima!

[@joecruse4531]

Hi Bryan, Question on your the hooks you use on salmon. You tie your Sexi Bomb fly. What brand and size hook do you use when euro nymphing for Kings? I did watch your latest video on euro nymphing on a budget. Nice job

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

I have honestly struggled with strong hooks for salmon. When you get a 25 pound salmon pulling hard, the hooks can bend out. I've had a few people recommend hooks for them but I can't recall any off the top of my head. I have typically used Mustad 3X heavy... but even they bend out.

[@joecruse4531]

@@WhiteDogTrailCompany I know what you mean when it comes to salmon. For every correct hook up in the mouth (not flossing) it takes 10-12 good hook ups to land one. I always bring a salmon net (but you may feel like that’s cheating). My goal is to try and I mean try to get them in as soon as possible so they have a chance to live out their short remaining time. It’s hard to explain how strong those salmon are until you try to land one yourself. They do bend out the hook quite a bit. Thanks for your comments and keep on fly fishing my friend. Joe

[@thelipslayer8312]

Maxcatch Intouch Competition Euro Nymph Rod 10ft 6in 3wt or 10ft 2wt 100.00 to 120.00

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Thank you for adding this one. It is one that no one else has mentioned!

[@curtbaker6593]

Lively legz are some awesome nymphs… check them out

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Definitely will!

[@theyoren9720]

Hanak wave nymph 10f 3# 120€ you dont find better rod for this money ...

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Awesome! Thanks for the recommendation!

[@mikestrate1468]

Don't say under 100 and start with rods at 180.

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

One of the things in the video was that you can use existing fly fishing gear. Many people want a low cost of entry to see if they like euro nymphing and they don't jump right into buying a new rod. The under $100 considers that they start that way and I give information on how to choose from existing rods (length and action of rod). The $100 then covers the terminal gear ?(lines, sighter materials, tippet rings, tippet, etc) and flies they would need to start when using an existing rod.

[@jalicojack8931]

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[@naali2769]

One tip for that reel section, i think most important thing in reel is that reel frame is closed so that thin line wont get stuck. And second tip, you can basicly use whole spool of bi- or tri-color tippet material as your main line. Those nymph lines are basicly made for competition where you cannot use level mono as your ”flyline”. Third, you should definetly check EUROpean rod manufacturers ;)

[@johnhewitt3885]

I started with an echo carbon xl and loved it. Unfortunately it was stolen with the rest of my gear and I’m trying to replace it. I would buy another, but with even a little experience, I want to go longer. Finding a budget friendly 11’ is tricky.

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Yeah... I recommend the Diamondback 10'10" rods. Great length, great sensitivity, great backbone and great tippet protection. They're a little more than the lower budget rods but worth every penny in my opinion. They're way less $ than other top end rods but perform better way better than the $1000 rods in my experience.

[@HalfInsaneOutdoorGuy]

I have a 115 dollar max catch 10ft 6in. 3wt. I love it. I also have their 40 dollar reel…it’s a pain in the ass to use. The line slips through the line guards and ends up getting wrapped up on the outside of the reel, and gets jammed into spaces in the reel “structure” and gets stuck up…the rod through is amazing!

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Yeah... a lot of people have the same problem with reels when using a mono rig. I'm having that problem a bit too and should probably look for a different reel specifically for it.

[@stephanebogen5411]

Great video - again :) I studied a lot before starting Euro nymphing 18 months ago. I landed on a Moonshine Euro nymph rod 3wt because I liked a saltwater rod I bought from them. Great quality and sensitivity and comes with 2 tips and a nice sturdy carrying case. Not breaking the bank : Moonshine Rod Company The Epiphany 3wt - 10'6" $ 299. I spent $100 on my reel from Red's. Still using that set up and having fun every time. I am still learning about feeling the bottom but it's much easier with heavy flies and when a fish strikes, there is no doubt. I would recommend doing own tying. There is a learning phase but just start simple with larger hooks first (pheasant tail, midge, Squirmy Worm). I stopped by a local fly fish shop and ask for basic supply to start tying few patterns. I would def encourage first timer to do this and not buy a bunch of supplies that you might not need. Then go gradually and invest in more tool as needed. A tying wise is essential - plenty of budget option that work well (I paid $70 for mine) and $50 for a box of basic tools. I am really looking forward your upcoming Euro Nymphing Advanced Techniques - Fly Selection. I have tied most of the one you have videos on as well as others from Devin Olsen and Fish Fly Food. I have the tendency to use the one that I found beautiful but I am not a fish....Would be great to learn if some pattern work well in tandem (dropper / point). What about identical fly but different weight/color. In any case, the Squirmy Worm you do is a killer ! I have made lot's of color combo with different dubbing but my favorite is rainbow scud dub with pink wormy and silver or dark tungsten bead.

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

I pretty much love everything you said and totally agree! 🙂 I learned to tie flies when I was fairly young... but I really got into it when I wanted to do something that I couldn't get from a store... I wanted to be able to make my flies exactly as I wanted them! I'll never buy a euro nymph now... I just tie what I want. And i agree... tying nymphs does not need to be complex! Keep it simple... the fish love those simple patterns! Simple and effective is my thing!!! Also... I seriously almost tied the exact pink squirmy you mentioned with the rainbow scud dubbing... Literally had all of the materials laid out but then got distracted and didn't come back to it... I'm totally doing it now 🙂

[@jesussanguinetti6727]

The rod fofr euronymph would be a vision vapa vision hero and vision nymphmaniac, dragon rod, fario tactical, maxcatch

[@anthonyclark6118]

Excellent video. Great angle on euro Nymphing. A couple of tips for absolute first timers who might be reluctant and not want to spend a lot to trial it out. To have an initial first go, I’d recommend the Scientific Anglers Absolute Euro leader. White nylon line integrated with sighter and tippet ring. No knots. Just unwrap and ready to fish. Just loop to loop on your existing set up and off you go! Use your regular 4x mono tippet to start. Why 4x? Your gonna snag a lot, and I’ve found you just have a little more strength to get flies out. Finer fluorocarbon sinks quicker, has less micro drag….but I’ve found this is only true at the $ end. It isn’t so important when beginning. Learning to tuck cast properly will sort most situations. Use barbless hooks for the same reason, and learn how to de-snag ( get your rod tip 180 degrees behind the hook entry direction and gently lift/flick). Otherwise burn $$$ on flies initially. I wish someone had shown me this as a beginner. Similarly one fly rig to begin with. It’s just kinder on fly loss and easier to cast. You will change all this to mono-rig, custom leader,finer tippets, fluro, double tags for flies fished at multiple depths, soon enough. Probably when you invest in a true euro rod etc. You can also reverse an old WF line and use the long fine end for euro. Best of luck. Persist with euro, it’s a heap of fun to learn! Great stuff Bryan. 300% recommend white dogs euro series. Full of essential practical stuff!

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Great suggestions! Thanks for taking the time to write it out for everyone! And thanks for following along!!!

[@robertcourt8593]

Thanks for this advice, I've been thinking about having a go at nymphing and all of these suggestions were what I was thinking of doing as it all seemed pretty logical as a starting point but it's easy to think you need x,y and z just to give it a go.

[@deansimpson3231]

Thanks for this video, I have been euro nymphing for 3-4 years, my first rod was one you mentioned. It was the Orvis Clearwater 10’ 3 weight that I purchased from a local dealer here in PA where I live. I didn’t enjoy fishing with the rod personally, but others may find it ok. I have recently traded that Orvis for a Cortland Nymph 10’6” in 3 weight, which has been a real improvement for me and made my euro nymph experience so much more fun and rewarding. I am catching more fish and seem to have a better sense of what is happening under the water. I must add that others may have a different experience because in my opinion this all is very much a product of personal preference and technique. Hope this is helpful and tight lines!

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Good feedback. I definitely think everyone goes off their own experiences. I've only used the original Cortland Competition and only once but I've heard really good things about the new MK II from some reliable resources! One of them actually likes it better than the Sage ESN if you can believe it!

[@Delco377]

A good rod that I just tried and used was a very cheap 10ft 2 wt of 3 wt the max catch in touch euro rod it’s only a 100 dollars too

[@brandynblunt5989]

Wild Waters out of Rochester NY has a euro nymph rod I have used when I first started euro nymphing and I have stuck with it. They also offer lifetime warranty at a $65 price point. They only offer it in a 3 wt 10ft rod. Even friends of mine who have much much more expensive setups have tried this rod of mine and really like it. Also, customer service is amazing and they answer quickly and through text message or phone call.

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Oh Wow! That's great! I have not heard of them before. Thank you for sharing!

[@luchacefox259]

I can think of alot more fun I could have with $60 "Euro Nymphing" I miss Amsterdam.

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

😂😂😂

[@Moosequito573]

Instead of using mono, would braided line be better? Less stretch and apparently more sensitive to feeling bites. Probably cast better too.

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

I have not done it but there are people who use braided line.

[@springteen3743]

Maxcatch euronymphing rod 10 to 11 footer for $90😮

[@pibroch2160]

Thanks to the subscriber for the question. I’m in that exact position. I plan to rig my 9’ 5 Wt to get into this technique with an eye on upgrading if I really take to it. I’ve watched your series and plan to rewatch. Looks like you are going to cover a lot more so no specific recommendations. Well, maybe a bit more detail in how to manage a mono rig while on the water. It looks like it would handle and feel a bit different from the typical floating fly lines we’re currently used to using. Anyway, please continue on this euro nymphing series. It’s great. Thanks!

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Awesome! thank you so much and good luck with your setup!

[@rodc4334]

I tend to wander far from the car, lots of bushwacking, etc. So I only want to carry one rod most of the time. I use a 10 ft 3 wt Orvis Clearwater. I really like it. I would say it is not perhaps a "pure" Euro rod, super long and super light. But it is a super all purpose rod. It works very well as a Euro rod on the streams of modest size I tend to fish, but can easily cast a dry fly or even a small streamer. I have even landed a 3lb small mouth bass with the thing. I keep a 3wt floating line rigged with a 3x tapered leader to a tippet ring on the reel. I simply tie a 30-40 ft piece of mono to that tapered leader and another tippet ring on the free end, then tippet, usually 5x. If I want to cast a streamer I just wind the mono onto a foam spool, and snip it off at the tippet ring. Now I am all set up to tie on a foot of tippet and streamer (or dry fly). To switch back, just snip off the streamer, tie on the mono rig, reel it onto the spool. Today I planned on focusing on streamer fishing so took my 9 ft 5 wt. There was some water I thought might be better Euro nymphing. So I just tied on the mono rig and fished the rod I had. Caught a mess of rainbow trout. Worked pretty well for the small stream I was in. So, if you are interested in giving Euro nymphing a try and don't want to shell out cash, and you have something like a typical 9 ft 5 wt, just tie on 30 ft of mono (could just be some heavy tippet you already have), some sighter, and have at it.

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

EXACTLY!!! Perfect comment! Thank you!

[@jerryzambardi823]

Bought a moonshine Epiphany 10’3 under 300 works great for me

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Thanks! I almost added them to the list in my video.

[@HalfInsaneOutdoorGuy]

How do you keep your fly (nymph) from getting stuck on the bottom, tangled in shit, or coated in river bottom moss, and gunk?!? This is the on.y reason that I don’t care to do it.

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

I don't have to deal with moss too much but the others I deal with. If you keep a good feel of the flies on the end of your line you can avoid most of that. I can usually tell when I've paused on bottom and can gently lift my rod before I get wedged in between rocks. I will start to judge how deep the water is and keep my flies just off the bottom while touching bottom once in a while. If you're hitting bottom too much or you're not keeping a tight line to feel things, you'll get hung more. I still get stuck on bottom and in deeper or faster water where I can't get to them, I'll lose a lot of flies... but it's part of the game. By getting deep and near the bottom with my flies in tough areas I find the bigger fish. On the day I filmed this I fished for maybe an hour afterward and connected with 2 really nice browns around 17-18". Both were deep in tough water... a situation I'm willing to lose flies in.

[@tonygebbia2442]

Great info and tips thanks! Really like the visuals, even the stock photos. They help me follow along with the verbal descriptions. I tend to remember them more easily

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Thanks!

[@scottasin]

I've Euro Nymphed a 10ft 8wt for Steelhead just for the needed backbone to get a fish that powerful in, and I was still able to cast fairly small beadheads very accurately with a mono rig. I also did it once on a 11ft Steelhead float rod when the 8wt was in for repair and it worked like a charm. I mostly use a 10ft 2wt for trout fishing, but I'm convinced you can throw a mono rig on any rod with enough reach and you'll do alright. 'Feeling' your fly is useful some of the time, but a whole lot can be accomplished with good presentation and reading of the sighter. 'Euro Nymph fly line' is really only necessary if you're constraining yourself to competition rules, which is absolutely silly for anyone who isn't actually planning to fish in competitions. I had a 3wt dry fly line that I originally tied my mono rig to after trying a Euro Fly Line and being wildly disappointed when there was even a foot out of the reel. Turns my 2wt 10ft throws that 3wt line and a 15ft dry fly leader like a dream when the need or desire arises. The rest of the time I usually run more than enough straight 14lb mono to be able to launch streamers or indicator rigs across big pools.

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

I use a, 11' 7wt switch rod for steelhead and an 11' 8wt switch rod for salmon and basically euro nymph for them with a single fly. I have the same accuracy as I do with my 10'6" 3wt for trout!

[@patrickmcphee770]

Try throwing a 3wt or 4wt line on the 8wt for salmon and steelhead. Or use a running line. You can roll cast up to a 5mm bead. The fly line is light enough not to pull down through the guides. I do a 4” tapered leader with sighter to tippet ring. 20-14-12-8, the last 2 being hi vis. Your more versatile on the water and the thicker line is easier to control in the cold weather.

[@stellamillenium]

​@@WhiteDogTrailCompanywow, what a great info! Because I'm looking to buy a 10' #6 stillhead rod for casting streamers for larger trout on my local stream but was also deeply interested in euro fishing. Since I never don't take more then one with me when going fishing, I was wondering if I could just switch leaders and convert that 10ft #6wt rod with the help of a SA Euro Nymph Kit (same thing as the Rio shorty kit) and continue to euro Nymph with that kit? So, regular 10ft 6wt rod + Rio shorty kit. If I understood well, it's doable? 🙂

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

@@stellamillenium it is doable. But I have since moved to the Diamondback 10’10” 6wt which is made specifically to euro nymph for steelhead and what a difference!!! Way lighter, way more power, way more sensitivity and way more tippet protection! I HIGHLY recommend it. However, I have not tried to throw streamers with it.

[@stellamillenium]

@@WhiteDogTrailCompany oh, that's nice! But I'm more into buying one "universal" rod (ok, we all know such thing doesn't exist 🙂), but as close as it can be. I'm specifically looking for Vision still hero 9,9ft 6wt, hoping I could use it for big dries, indicator nymph fishing, some streamers and over the top, to easily convert it to a euro rig as needed. The rod itself weights 100grams. Not that heavy I guess..

[@hermanlawsontaylor3821]

Another very informative video! After I watched the first couple of your euro nymphIng series I really decided to try it. Had an old fly reel with fair drag with backing and 4wt line and ordered the cheapest 4wt 10.5’ rod ($96.00). Splurged on leader/sighter material as recommended in your set-up series! Used 30 Ft of 65 lb braid line(already had) instead of euro line! Put it all together as my learning/assessment rig! Purchased a $42 fly tying vice/tool kit and ordered the materials specified for your Sexy Stonefly bomb(~$45). After a few really ugly stonefly,

[@hermanlawsontaylor3821]

A few trips out, loosing lots of flys, began to catch fish! Love the technique and the video series has got me to the point that I’m ready to invest in the real and better equipment. I’m also tying all your flys and love them!

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

That's so awesome! I'm happy to hear you're having fun and success with it!

[@Arshy_angler]

Nice tips Can we use any mono far mono rigs ?and the mono memory is ok?

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

The mono we typically use (Maxima Chameleon) is low memory and fairly stiff mono. You may not have the same experience with other mono.

[@behindwillslens3513]

Do you recommend euro leaders? Like fly crate offers?

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

To be honest, I've always created my own leaders and never used a manufactured leader. I probably can't offer an opinion other than to say I know people who buy their leaders instead of making them.

[@brian1204]

It seems to me that a tenkara rod would be great for this kind of fishing.

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

It's a good way to learn and I actually started with a Tenkara rod... but they are limiting because of the lack of line control. I found I quickly outgrew the Tenkara rod and went to a Euro rod and never looked back.

[@Droptineful]

Great video! Can’t wait to see more fly tying and advanced patterns!👍🏻🇺🇸

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

I definitely have more coming! I gotta quit the full time job so I can do everything I want! 😂😂😂

[@paulingrassia3745]

I have a Syndicate 10ft. 2 wt. love this rod. Very sensitive, with a strong backbone. They are now priced around $350.00, but bought mine 3 years ago when they a little Less $$. Paul Ingrassia

[@chasewilson8712]

Can you euro nymph even with float line on your everyday reel

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

If you use a regular fly line it is HIGHLY recommended to use a long mono rig and keep the fly line on the reel and not out the rod tip or in the guides.

[@stevensad38]

I have realized that I have been Euro nymphing for quite some time without realizing it! On a New Zealand home braided water with a consistently high flow, (Up to 150 cumecs) I have been fishing with tenkara rods and fluoro lines. The rods are 13 and 15 ft in length and the fly in order to get to the desired depth are weighted with 4.4 or 5 mm tungsten beads aided with a Swann shot if deep and turbulent water dictates. My setup costs less than $100 NZ per rod and line and works just fine.

[@AdamBee-q9m]

A bit late to the party but i was able to get a nymphing rod for around 70$ from a polish company called mikado… the rod was a 10ft 4wt it was lightweight, sensitive and had an impressively strong butt section comparable to a 7wt… idk my standards might be low since i havent used any premium rods but hey its cheap, it does the job well and it catches fish

[@leighj8885]

I'm sure you know that the lower priced rods from US companies are made overseas. There are several Chinese companies that sell adequate rods for half the price you quoted.

[@RandyB4111]

I've got the Maxxon Outfitters euro nymphing rod NX-3 10'6 @ $269.99. I've had no problems with it.

[@Big.D.]

If you're on an ultra low budget, Maxcatch makes a serviceable euro rod. I have one as a backup and it's actually fairly sensitive, just heavy.

[@blakeetter2200]

Pro tip for anybody looking to get tippet cheaper: Seaguar yellow label 4Lb flouro is exactly the same diameter as 5x for a whole lot cheaper per ft of line.

[@arleighfreeborn6207]

Hi it nice to see shows like this to learn from I'm getting started in fly tieing and fishing and taking my grands fishing and tieing fly's I watch all the shows all the time what is a good fishing rod thank you Arleigh Freeborn

[@cretudavid8622]

Here in Romania(eastern europe), we call it short nymphing, and we typically use 11 feet rod. If we need more distance, we use an ultra light nymphing line

[@garybenk]

If you were to recommend 4 or 5 flies for a beginning euro-nymph fisherman, what would they be? I've set up a Mono rig with 20# Maxima Chameleon, 4 red/yellow Amnesia sighter, tippet ring, and then my 2 fly tippet. Now I need to select my flies to tie. I have a 10', 4w rod. I just got in an order of several tungsten bead sizes and 12, 14, 16 and 18 hooks. Thanks.

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

I would recommend this video where I show the flies I use. kzbin.info/www/bejne/l4CnXn6jdtt5m5Y I have videos of how to tie each fly on the channel... See this playlist for how to tie them. kzbin.info/aero/PLuLwf7ym7i7ZKJSrh7WP-pftvhmwIytMK If I had to pick 4... I would do Sexi Stonefly, Pink Squirmy, Walt's Worm, Peacock Ice Dub

[@mattsavage]

There's alot of guys building their own rods and selling on ebay, basically buying chinese blanks and rebranding them. I picked up an 11' 3wt for about $100 from a guy that builds them and fishes the Deschutes with his. Its been a great rod while i wait for a replacement tip for my Arcay rod from spain. For reels i've been pretty happy with the Redington Zero. very basic, inexpensive, lightweight clicker reel.

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Very cool! I'm glad you're liking it.

[@jaredabell24]

Another great budget type rod is the Moonshine Epiphany 3wt 10’6”. It’s been a great rod for learning Euro Nymphing. Great videos! Keep it up!

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Thanks! That is a popular one! I almost included it in the video too. I'm adding it to the recommended list! Thanks!

[@chrissmith6095]

I agree. I’ve had go success at learning to euro nymph on this rod.

[@patrickmcphee770]

I love how all you young kids think $200 rods are budget. Lol. They have made great rods for years for under a $100. Cabelas- st croix- phfluger- fenwick. Now we add 12 inches, call it a euro rod and double the price. BEST budget nymph rod? 9ft reddington crosswater 4wt. Too bad they didn’t make a 10 ft 3. This is the greatest fishing industry scam of all time. Here- Throw big tungsten beads on $600 2-3 wt rods. Been tight line fishing large streams and small rivers for years with the 9ft 4wt. Are you gunna keep 4- inch trout pegged with the barbless hooks as well as a 2wt. No but who cares.

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

I've fished with regular rods and euro rods. I do think there is a big difference between them.

[@NathanCampbellGuitarist]

Nice tips. I wanted to give this a try so I got a cheap real and some euro line. This was phase 2 for me because I already had made a small investment in supplies to build some leaders. Not previously having a reel or fly line of any kind this was the most expensive part. I also think the guy at the fly shop got me something good, but was more than I wanted to spend on a line. Anyways, I do not have a proper rod. I actually put this setup on my steelhead rod for gear fishing because it is 9 ft 6 inches and had a good length even though it is a bit stiff for this. But I caught my first fish Euro style last night. It was a lot of fun. I think my next steps will be to get a proper rod when I can. Thanks for all the great tips.

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Yeah... I would personally spend the money on the rod and not on a fly line. Rods make a big difference if you can afford them!

[@alltroutdout7746]

MAXCATCH NANO..... people will say its a bad rod but with LIFETIME WARRANTY, and it can handle a drop back steelhead from my experience... id recommend it 100%

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Thanks! I'll add it to the list!

[@ilovefriedrice9891]

fenwick aethos, life time warranty as well with my local tackleshop.

[@williamcollins2232]

When I started I was losing flies. Now I can go TRIPS without losing them though I tie my own and it's not a biggie. You almost ALWAYS Fish upstream so when you do hang bottom, work your way up stream until it comes free. The times it won't come loose are almost always hooked into vegetation such as branches or roots. My wading staff extends to 14 feet and has saved me MANY break offs and flies. I screw a round piece of felt in the end to retrieve lures from trees that unluckily fishermen have lost. I will NOT go wading without it.

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

First of all... LOVE your idea with your wading staff!!! I find I can get my flies out almost all of the time. The times where I struggle to free flies is in higher water and bigger pocket water conditions when I'm using heavier flies to plunge through the fast water to get down to the slow water. If there are big rocks all over the bottom they can really get hung up and not let go... That's when I lose a lot of my flies. But I always try the upstream method to free flies!

[@jassonco]

Yes you can get into contact nymphing, on a budget, but not a $100 budget. Technique is a direct relation to the equipment and equipment is a direct relation to technique, period. This type of fishing, is all about the rod & leader. You can get a $100 euro rod and it work for you, but I wouldn't suggest any euro rod over $400.

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

This video is definitely targeted at people who want to try Euro Nymphing but don't want to jump in with the expensive price tag. I agree that a good euro rod and leader makes a huge difference but I know a lot of people who have been able to be successful with non-euro gear as they learn. Once they try it out and see how much they like it, they almost always end up splurging for the better euro specific gear! I was a little spoiled getting to fish a Sage ESN as my first euro rod. #sorrynotsorry lol

[@dicksonsmith2702]

I'm fairly new to Euro nymphing, a couple of years under my belt now. My fly fishing partners got me into it and I'm enjoying it. My first Euro rod was a cheap 3 wt. 10' 6", Chinese made rod I purchased for under $100 to see if I would like this type of fly fishing. It worked but definitely was not that great of a rod, hard to cast and wasn't sensitive enough. I've since purchased a much better rod from a company called Moonshine Rod Company. I purchased the 4 piece, Epiphany 3wt - 10'6". I love the the rod as it cast well is very sensitive and is a beautiful rod. They have a lifetime warranty and you get two tips with the purchase. I paid just under $300 for my rod and I have since bought another rod from them for my regular fly fishing, still water, etc. Keep up the great videos as I also tie flies and like a lot of your patterns you have shown.

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

I think you went about it the right way. Start cheap and learn and move your way up! Thanks for following the channel!

[@hwong7224]

Nice informative video for people starting Euro Nymphing. I started 1 month ago and using my current 5 wt, 9 ft Sage rod on medium sized rivers. Steep learning curve so you video series has helped. If I’m going to Euro Nymph on same rivers, what Weight Euro Nymph rod I should consider? Not clear on weight translation from conventional to Euro Nymphing Rod? Thanks.

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

If you're going to get a Euro Nymphing rod I would recommend a 3wt. I would also recommend a 10' 6" rod as they're more universal and you can reach further than just a 10' rod. The 3wt is only the weight of the tip of the rod so there should still be plenty of backbone in a 3wt but read reviews and look around at what people say about the rods. A medium action rod is ideal for euro nymphing... soft tip that bends down to the middle of the rod and then a stiff butt section. Good luck with your euro nymphing!!!

[@JasonCardot]

The series is EXCELLENT so far. What I would like to see is if I don't have the cash to buy a euro nymph rod, how would you suggest I use my 8'6 or 9' rod to euro nymph? What types of gear/fly lines will I need to achieve this? I just don't have the scratch right now to afford anything more than say a fly line and leader, but I've got tons of flies that should serve the purpose.

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Yeah... I think a lot of people are in similar situations. The technique is the same as I describe in my series but you'll be limited on range. Maybe focus on smaller waters with more defined runs that you can target. I would forget the fly line altogether and just go with the mono rig like I describe in this video.

[@CESmith-hu2yg]

Been watching your vid's for about a year now and glad I found it; very informative and you make me miss my old home waters in CNY. More vid's on W. Canada if possible [tough to get good water levels when I get a chance to get back up there] Best of luck and keep the vid's coming Thanks Chuck S.

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

I get to fish the WC about once a year these days but it was where I learned to fly fish and will always be sacred water to me! So many memories on that river ❤❤❤

[@kavamang2721]

I have an Echo Carbon XL 10' 3WT Euro Rod. I've fished with it for 3 years now and have no reason to upgrade. Great rod at a really good price point. I have it paired with the Echo Ion 4/5 reel. Reel balances nice and has good drag, however the line slips through constantly with a mono rig but i'm sure that is a problem with most reels and mono rigs that aren't fully enclosed.

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Yeah... I have the same problem on my older Sage 3250 reel. Now that I'm using a much longer section of 12# Maxima for my main line of my leader I have the same problem. I might need to change up my reel because of that. It hasn't lost me a fish yet but man it can be frustrating.

[@gjbingham]

Last one: On a brand new fly reel that will be strictly dedicated to euro nymphing, is there any real reason to have actual fly line on the reel? After watching 10 plus videos on the topic, it appears to be a very rare instance when fly line hits the water, and that is typically when fighting fish (in which case fly line is no better than mono). It's tempting to go from backing to mono and leave out the fly line altogether.

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

The only reason I've found to use fly line is that it is easier to hold and control in your hand than mono is. I'm using somewhat light mono for my rig so it's harder to manage with your hand. However, I still like it a lot! If you haven't explored my videos much yet, I have a whole Euro Nymphing Series you should check out. It starts at ground zero and works it's way up getting into more advanced topics. In a later video I go through retying my euro leader to with more of a micro leader and a mono rig. You can check out the whole series here. kzbin.info/aero/PLuLwf7ym7i7bre38GWqk0pXZggydq3Z5m Oh and one more reason... Many reels don't have a fully enclosed frame so the mono can go between the spool and the reel and mess things up. Fly line won't do that... or just buy a reel with a fully enclosed frame! Since switching to the mono rig that has been a nuisance for me.

[@herkimerjay]

Also, i have several spots i could point you to fish at on the West Canada Creek in Herkimer County NY. I see the old Forge sign in some of your vids as i am about 40 mins from Old forge right on route 28 south. Would love to see you do a video on this river.

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

I grew up not far from the West Canada Creek and learned to fly fish on that river. I have a few videos from the WC on the channel but I honestly don't make it back there much these days. I grew up in Dolgeville and my parents have had a place in Old Forge since I was a kid. We love it up there!

[@williammiller353]

Another good rod is from The Wade Rod Company, The Nymphster, it has an extra section to make it 10 or 11 foot, plus they have a payment plan for those on a budget. Great video as always, besides the rod I have found that getting a good leader formula makes a big difference on the water.

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

That's great! I was actually not aware of the tip sections and payment plans. That is a great one! Thanks!

[@troutfishintrucker3527]

Great video, info is spot on. The catch and the hatch web site offers euro nymphs on sale for great rates several times per year but you get a lot of emails from them wanting you to buy other of their products, tried the cabelas czn tip broke about 3 hrs in to first day. They gave my money back at the store I purchased it from, offered another rod but the other one kinda left a bad feeling about them, review’s were good just a freak deal. Keep up your good work it is most appreciated!!!

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Thanks for the suggestion on flies and the rod! My brother had the original Cortland Competition rod and broke the tip on his first trip. They sent him a new section and he was back in action pretty quickly.

[@deanthomas3884]

Lets see a real budget video, $50 Budget! Fly rod, reel, line and flies from a garage sale or flea market. Keep the videos coming, great work. Dean from Wales.

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Now that would be a challenge!!! 😀

[@timothylisk7665]

Could you use the Amnesia as your main line for a mono rig or must you use Chameleon. I tie my regular tapered leader butt sections with Amnesia, and they work fine. Thanks - great video.

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Sure can... Amnesia is a bit softer material than Maxima. Maxima is a stiffer mono, so people like the stiffness to aid in casting. But I've seen people use Amnesia for the mainline and sighter.

[@kentell64]

great video ! i have a trip planned for WV over thanksgiving week i'm going to give it a try .i have a 9.5 " rod but its a 6 weight will i brake off to many with this? thanks

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Thanks! Just start with what you have. It's a little heavy and might not be nice to your light tippet but if it has a soft tip that can help. Not sure if it is a fast action or slow action fly rod. Slow action would be better for protecting your tippet. But start with what you have and see how it goes. If you break off on anything try going heavier on the tippet side to compensate. You can get away with heavier tippet sometimes depending on the fish and water conditions. Heavier flies may help with a heavier setup as well. Good luck!

[@anthonyvalachovic9166]

I bought an LL Bean euro rod and so far I like it a lot. What sold me is that i can return it in a year if i don't like it. This is my first year euro nymphing. All of the videos I've watch were great and helpful. Maybe on some of the videos you could show us up close of the flies you are using. Thanks

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Fly Selection is definitely coming!!! That is probably the next in the series.

[@jameskocsis7366]

Is euro nymphing better suited to smaller rivers or streams? I've taken up using indicators on med sized rivers and euro nymphing on smaller body of water. Is it just me or am I on the right path? Thanks

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

You can certainly do it on all streams and rivers but i personally like it better on smaller and medium streams because you can be very targeted. I have used it on larger streams where you can still wade out a ways and have caught fish but it is more difficult in my opinion. On larger streams I try to disect the water in small sections at a time and try to not to get overwhelmed by the sheer volume of river lol. It can definitely be done on bigger water but I definitely prefer smaller to medium water.

[@NhoQue-pj2jt]

Nice upload enjoyed watching always stay connected 💐

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Thanks!

[@Philkoehler4]

I want a 11 foot 3wt or a 11 foot 2 wt...any suggestion

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Depends on budget. I’m in love with Diamondback Rods. Just ordered my 10’10” 2wt. If that’s too steep there are lots of options suggested in the comments that won’t break the budget.

[@Philkoehler4]

Money isnt the issue im just having a hard time finding a 11 foot 2 or wt that i actually like

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

@@Philkoehler4 How about a 10’10” 2wt? That’s the Diamondback and it comes with VERY high recommendations from anglers. Mine just arrived today! Diamondback has blown me away with the rods I’ve fished and I expect this to be the same.

[@Philkoehler4]

@@WhiteDogTrailCompany that will do for sure!!! Thank you for the tip brother!!

[@mikeswanner8272]

Going to try this for the first time next weekend. Great to tell me how to set up my 10’ TFO 4 wt to try the Euro Nymphing before buying the gear specific to this style of fly fishing. Will let you know how it goes in a couple of weeks.

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Awesome! Good luck! If you were going to start with a non-euro rod... I think you have a the perfect one in the 10' 4wt! Definitely let me know how it goes!

[@ZGADOW]

How about a video on hybrid methods between indicator nymphing and euro nymphing? Euro nymphing with an indicator or indicator nymphing with colored sighter on your leader or any combination of those techniques all have distinct uses and advantages

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

That sounds like a great idea! Thanks!

[@vasiliychernomorov1115]

Video title is a lie! There's no way to go Euro under $100. You'll need a lot of equipment except the rod and even the rod will hit over the hundred

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

The $100 limit assumes you will reuse an existing fly rod and fly reel. Most people who ask me about this are already fly fishing but don't have euro specific gear. All of the other items you can do for under $100 total.

[@arleighfreeborn6207]

I really got a lot out of your show there so much I just learned about I'm so happy I watch your show cause I'm retiring soon and going to be doing a lot of fishing and fly tieing have a great day

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Awesome! I'm glad it was helpful!

[@newfieflyguy5280]

I have a dragonfly kamloops 4wt euro nymphing rod I bought as a starter it was around $200 and found it to be an exceptionally good starter rod very sensitive and really was able to take a beating worth the money

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Cool... Thanks for the input. That was one I'm not familiar with.

[@bobmccarney4772]

This rod is priced at around $289, but I recommend the Echo Shadow II. Besides the 10' rod, they sell a "competition" kit that can turn the rod into a 10'6" or 11" rod and it includes weights for the reel seat to help balance the rod and reel.

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

Sweet! Thank you for the suggestion! I'll add it to the recommended list for everyone! Thanks!

[@BRGOutdoors]

I know I am late to the party but I’ve been interested in picking up the Grays Fin Euro Nymphing combo. For $225 you get a full set up and seems like reviews are positive. What are your thoughts sir?

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

You're never too late... I check comments pretty regularly. That is a setup I have not heard of before. If you end up getting it, let me know what you think!

[@BRGOutdoors]

@@WhiteDogTrailCompany Thank you for answering me. Definitely considering it as a combo or if the family budget allows, I may save up for the Orvis Clearwater combo. I figure, either way, it can be something I can pass to my little man (2 yr old) when he’s ready to try to swing some flys haha. In the mean time mom and I can share the euro rig and switch between that and Tenkara depending on the situation. God Bless and thank you again for your response sir.

[@raptorpilot8727]

The problem with a mono rig on many current fly reels is that they don't have a closed frame. Some manufacturers are catching on and producing them again, but the mono rig presents problems with the line escaping out the side of the reel through the gap between the frame and the spool.

[@WhiteDogTrailCompany]

YES!!!!! I have heard a lot about that and thank you for bringing that up. I didn't even think about that in this video as something to be aware of.