EVERY HIDDEN DETAIL in For The Future! | The Owl House S3 E2 Breakdown

For the Future is finally here, after months of speculating about what’s been going on in the Demon Realm since Luz & her friends got trapped in the Human Realm! Obviously, I loved Thanks to Them, but I wasn’t super worried about the Hexside gang - I was way more concerned about what the Collector was doing with the witches who survived the Draining Spell. We finally have some answers, so today, I’m breaking down part two of the Owl House series finale, For the Future.
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[@claraakemi8019]

About halfway through the episode, right after King leaves Francois to watch over The Collector and prepares to leave the bedroom, we can see something under The Collector's bed. It appears to be a plushie. I think it's a fox (because of the snout and the pattern on its tail), so that might be a reference to "The Little Prince". Their planet-bedroom looks a bit similar to the prince's planet.

[@Lara-vo6rp]

aw never knew that, that's so cool!

[@amaradeleeuw1536]

That's amazing! I really love that connection! :D

[@delaneybenlon6106]

I think you might confuse some people since that's what Darius calls hunter.

[@OctopusOwl]

@@delaneybenlon6106 true but the Little Prince is a long established character and it may indeed be referring to that

[@delaneybenlon6106]

@@OctopusOwl I know ots referring that I'm just saying many might not get the reference.

[@kodahansen8080]

Stringbean's final form is a reference to the episode where Luz carved her egg. She told Eda that she wanted her Palisman to be able to choose their form for themself. Now as a snakeshifter Stringbean can choose her form every moment of every day. Luz gave her the ability to be a shifter.

[@avch1209]

Luz finally walk the number of steps necessary for the egg to hatch

[@samanthaboulton2119]

WOW THAT IS COMEDY

[@anthonygriffin284]

Nah bruh the egg is a Fitbit or something

[@Lichman825]

Wonder what stats it has

[@fishbowlpig]

That's defo a 12km one, that palisman is crazy rare

[@inactiveaccount.dontuseanymore]

💀💀💀💀

[@michaelsaunders4256]

I like the fact that odalia is like the collectors caregiver or maid because I feel like she is being punished for all her misdeeds

[@nunalunaberey_]

She liked to control her children, now a child is controlling her

[@-queen0frobots-]

@@nunalunaberey_ yup

[@voidresident_m4r127]

@@nunalunaberey_ OH HOW THE TURN TABLES!

[@lezlesbian]

​@@nunalunaberey_ dun Dun DUn DUN

[@thewolfking7411]

I swear to god I hope The Collector doesn’t get hurt or killed. I almost feel sorry for him even though he’s a kid, but he reminds me of Spinel from Steven Universe. They both want to have fun and want attention. I know everyone is feeling the same way. Dang so many likes!!!

[@theluigifan1]

Tbh, I want Eda to adopt him just like she did King. (And technically Luz and her friends) Eda adopting the last remaining members of two the most powerful races in the Demon Realm? Sounds super fanfiction-y but c’mon, at this point in the show, you might as well indulge in the fantasy one final time. lol

[@Starwarsfanboy0928]

Honestly, I see Luz and King reforming the Collector. Definitely not at the start of the episode because I do believe we’re gonna start with the anticipated Hexside Squad vs. Collector battle.

[@nickmilano2516]

To be honest I just want to see Belos beat the collecter

[@superkirbsonic9333]

See there we go we have people who care for the collector yes

[@rosiedragon3011]

He’s a little kid yeah a lot like spinel kids that will either permanently stay that way or for the collector very slowly VERY slowly grow I mean it took 8 years for king to grow a like 2 inches I wonder how long it will take him to be fully grown I want these babies to be safe forever and if there not i will be very sad

[@footh1013]

On the subject of crowns, it's interesting that Luz's hat has a crown too

[@venti2569]

Its azuras hat and azuras has a hat so yh

[@chocolatemetalmilk2685]

I think it speaks to how fucking weird Hooty is since he's the only puppet to even partially regain consciousness on his own

[@loosiegoosie5229]

Or even act out in by his own free will. He managed to speak to Lu-Lu without being promoted by the Collector

[@frootloopthechatot9766]

I think ot might have to do with liliths tears that hit hooty before he speaks. Like a "i truly care about you" thing.

[@PercyJacksonReader]

Lilith regained his consciousness for him

[@script_0529]

There's a part someone pointed out of puppet Raine possessed by Belos. When walking down the hallway, some of the sludge drips down the face from his eye, almost like Raine shed a tear. Could honestly be wrong and just speculation, but if they are all still aware of what's happening, imagine what Raine must be going through? First he's trapped as a puppet, still aware but unable to do anything about it; next he's possessed by Belos while being a puppet.

[@minty9565]

Okay but… of course crying on Hooty made him regain consciousness, it is such a fairytale fantasy trope, and the Collector is very much a child who loves those kinda things

[@Ghostface1998]

Damn people really missing that detail of where the portal dropped off the group which is the same place the portal door was found by Eda in the flashback. The same gated door is there and maybe that’s where the original transportation to the human world was before the convenience of the portal door was made.

[@SuperSwordman1]

I noticed, but kind of a lot else happening

[@soupy55]

Really? I keep seeing people pointing it out and im not even involved in the fandom

[@book-obsessedweirdo8677]

Yeah. I noticed that.

[@AceRide]

I definitely think the boiling sea was a result of the war between the Collectors and the Titans. The murals from this episode, and the one from 'Echos of the Past', show the battles being fought on dry land, but the only land we know of in the modern Demon Realm comes from the bodies of Titans. I feel like the Collectors either created it, or at least pulled a Kyogre and dramatically raised the sea level, in order to flood the planet.

[@loosiegoosie5229]

I always found it weird how there was never any mention of actual land in the demon realm. I mean, it's not like titans just chilled in a shallow pool of water before their extinction. But a global catastrophe cursed by angered collectors does make a lot of sense

[@MossMothMyBeloved]

I'm pretty sure they say they scorch the air so maybe that's how the boiling sea came around.

[@popatochisps1198]

This might be why the Titan Trappers, the Collectors’ servants, have a natural resistance to the Boiling Sea. The Collectors wouldn’t want their servants getting hurt by their weapon.

[@eliscore]

You could create a massive tidal wave if you were somehow able to control the moon...oh wait

[@arlainecarinugan3703]

The collectors book said that "but if they meddle with our affairs, we shall CLEAN THE PLANET and SCORCH THE AIR" it's basically confirmed

[@AceRide]

After this episode, I'm starting to think the temple King's egg was hidden in was either made by the Collectors, with the Titans commandeering it later, or made to look like a Collector-made building. The mural inside it is a perfect match to one of the ones in the Collector's Archive, both seeming to depict the Titans as monstrous. It also has a ton of celestial imagery inside it, which is more in keeping with the Collectors' aesthetics than the Titans'. There's the fact that it's built inside the shattered bone of a Titan, which would also mean a full grown Titan wouldn't be able to fit inside. Jean-Luc and the other constructs seem to have been made using flesh magic similar to the kind Belos uses, although it is possible he found that glyph combo on his own since it was documented in his journal. It would've been a smart move on the Titans' part, too. After all, any remaining Collectors probably wouldn't bother to check their own structures when looking for the last Titan egg. It would also explain why only one of the constructs inside was active; the rest were deactivated by the Titans' magic.

[@uniwolfgamer1094]

If you mean those meat things that can't survive/be moblie outside of the building and act like babysitters/bodyguards to King, doesn't seem like Titan magic deactivated them.

[@sasamichan]

my questions Where is Jean-Luc? Who owned the Batqueen? Did any adults manage to get away, hide and avoid becoming toys? Will some one we care about die before the series ends? How do we fit every thing we need to have happen to one last episode? what Will Collector's new game be? and how will we stop him?

[@sailorluna.3252]

I hope all of these get solved by the last ep :(

[@-queen0frobots-]

WE NEED JHON LUCCC

[@sasamichan]

@@-queen0frobots- I keep forgetting, but yes , if they never went back to him I would be disappointed.

[@aestheticbeing4487]

When i read this i immediately thought jean Luc from bluey

[@sasamichan]

@@aestheticbeing4487 I think of Star Trek

[@Starwarsfanboy0928]

For the Future was amazing and it definitely concluded many character arcs, especially with Willow where she was bottling up her emotions but had to let it out, Hunter where after feeling in a rough position after Flapjack’s passing he opens up to Willow and tells him that she means a lot to him. And the best of all, Luz finally coming to terms of herself after months of being hard on herself because all she wanted was to be understood, especially by her own mother. That scene felt like she was being reminded of all the great things she did in the Isles and all the friends she made. And because of this, her palisman hatched.

[@METerrell]

What Luz doesn't seem to remember about Belos when she met him as he was still going by Phillip is that he was already on the path & that was indicated by what he was looking for, the glass disc that would let him contact the Collector, his decision not to tell Lilith or Luz that they were meant to be sacrifices to the Stonesleeper, what he said about how he'd had trouble learning the glyphs ("almost as if the world wanted to hide them from me") & had already figured out combinations that would let him teleport. She didn't make Phillip into Belos. He was already over half way to Belos when they first met. What she needs is to hear again what Eda said to her before being captured in 1x18, but she also needs to hear from her friends, Lilith, Gwendoline, & even Principal Bump about the positive difference she's made in their lives since they've known her. Willow would have continued on the abomination path despite her talents with plant magic. Amity would still be doing what she had been doing & following the expectations that Odalia had in mind for her. Gwendoline would still be chasing false hopes for a cure for Eda from a bunch of con artists, etc. All that she has been focused on since the Day of Unity is the negative aspect of her arrival (which as her friends said, that Belos could have manipulated anyone). Hopefully she will be reminded of all of the good things that have come about for so many since she came to the Boiling Isles in the last episode.

[@METerrell]

Oh what if Belos ends up killing Luz & the Collector decides to send King back to save her because they both had managed to get through to him to make him realize that Belos was manipulating them & that they never wanted to hurt him, just get him to stop using people as his playthings. Maybe that's how King is in the in between.

[@METerrell]

The more I think about it, the more I think that's the case. The Collector sends King back to give Luz magic because in the end her Palisman & the glyphs weren't enough to protect her while stopping Belos. And the only way for King to have the power to give Luz magic is if he is at least in an adolescent form, so he's aged up too.

[@hanabanana8127]

To add to these excellent points, it's like Luz not only represents neurodiversity with her ADHD, but she also exhibits symptoms of displaced guilt from the death of her dad. She was only a little kid, and a child's developing brain has a tendency to be self-centric (not self-centered), and attributes their parents behavior and actions as something having to do with them in some way. That being said, a part of Luz has not been addressed in a healthy way, and she has developed a belief that if she can make things right, if she can always be the hero, maybe she can forgive herself for the loss of her father - an event that couldn't be more out of her control. Camila finally reconciling herself to be herself, and having her eyes opened to how truly amazing her daughter's "differentness" really is, and giving Luz the very exact thing she needed, tapped into Luz's deep isolation and desire to make things right. Eda is Luz's other mom figure for sure, but the one thing too impossible for the most powerful witch on the Boiling Isles, and that was Camila's true acceptance of her daughter, and the unconditional love that comes with that understanding. When she realized she wasn't alone, that was the lightning flash Stringbean needed to hatch at last. In a way it makes sense that Disney would cancel this show. It's way, way too good for Disney and it sets the bar much higher than they could ever go.

[@pedroff_1]

I totally agree she's seeing everything through some very warped perspectives, and I really like it because it's something we can tend to do at times, when we're at some low points. Blame everything bad on ourselves and forget everything good that we've done

[@Ivy-Tellers]

also nobody besides luz, lilth, hooty, and eda, knows that king is a titan. I want to see king go like "only i can talk to him bc i'm a titan" everybody is shocked and camila is like "uhh... is that supposed to be important?"

[@avch1209]

Mrs Noceda: if the people here live in a giant corpse, does it mean that all witches are born from the marrow of the titan's bones as well as blood cells? Or are witches like flies that hatch from eggs and go through a larval stage for a moment? Luz: why do you ask those questions? Mrs Noceda: I'm a veterinarian

[@maxleroux]

I'm starting to think that is was actually the other Collectors that imprisoned our Collector all those millennia ago and framed King's Dad for the crime. Now that we've seen how the Collector does magic, that Beast Ball we saw him trapped in before sure looked like it was made with the same kind of magic.

[@loosiegoosie5229]

It has been established that Titan magic cancels out Collector magic so... maybe?

[@_Mythic777_]

I'm really glad someone else noticed that it looked like it was ripped straight out of pokemon lol

[@fruitygarlic3601]

They may have put him in cosmic 'time out' for his misbehaviour (and opposition to killing creatures), which then happened to save him once the Collectors went to war with the Titans.

[@ChunkyCheckItCheese]

Guys guys, y'know how the curse Lilith gave to Eda was in a scroll? What if those are the products of the collectors archiving creatures "so they never fade?" Was the beast in Eda once a creature that became endangered, so the collectors stored it away? What if Eda's beast, now bonded with Eda through the curse, is making her relive the memory of being captured by the collector, and was native to the titan trapper's island, and that's why the "memory" takes place at their island? I hope I make sense or else I'm probably gonna be disproven in the replies and look kinda stupid.

[@trolleyfan]

Another detail: When Camila tosses the bat, like Braxas did with his throwing star (which she watched), she gives it a kiss for luck.

[@Jade_1872]

At 16:59 you can also see another hint to the the illusion taking place is in the smoke screen, they move to run away but swap places in the one second it took for them to place smoke and run.

[@gamerdude4316]

I wonder why Boscha didn't turn to Skara when Amelia and Cat disappeared. Maybe things have been icy between them since Skara joined the Flyer Derby team.

[@jaisonsohn2447]

It's a whole different collector that trapped the owl beast and made it a curse

[@jaisonsohn2447]

@Sandra Muñoz wtf does kiff mean

[@jaisonsohn2447]

@Sandra Muñoz no, the show is the owl house

[@jaisonsohn2447]

@Sandra Muñoz I'm talking about the show the owl house.youre talking about some show called Kiff

[@jaisonsohn2447]

@Sandra Muñoz so then whyd you reply with kiff when you know I'm talking about the owl house?

[@flowirrs.]

When luz”a palisman first hatched, I LITERALLY thought it was a bubble

[@AschaVovina]

I'm betting it wasn't _the_ Collector who captured the Owl Beast, but _a_ Collector -- that is, another member of their species.

[@faithnorthrup3662]

Honestly, I’m just hoping it’s a real that Evelyn is a Clawthorne and she was pregnant with Caleb’s child.

[@WhiteAce3]

Now we will never know. But I also think it must be like this. Hopefully we get a statement from Dana on this.

[@theluigifan1]

Just in case you don’t get to mention it, Willow and Hunter’s pinky hold toward the end of the episode is an intimate gesture that typically suggests flirtation and playfulness. It’s a sign that the relationship between both parties is relaxed and built on firm trust and a strong bond. It’s okay if you don’t ship Huntlow (No need to announce it, I’m well aware y’all are out here lol) but idk man, the constant blushing from Willow’s end in this episode and then that key moment really spells it out for me. TOH and She-Ra has their queer relationships expressing their love outwardly while the straight-passing relationships are much more subtle and symbolic. I like that switch up, truth be told. 🙂

[@Lisa_Flowers]

So do I! I never saw Hunter and Willow together but they're adorable, I love it.

[@theluigifan1]

@@Lisa_FlowersIt’s been a crack ship of mine since the episode Hunter was unmasked, which was Hunting Palismen, but the episode Any Sport in a Storm was what convinced everyone else of its viability as a potential ship!

[@torazely]

agreed! (though i still think Glimmadora would have been a better pairing. honestly, there's very few pairings i completely agree with in that show)

[@MTTT19]

One thing that I can’t help but wonder is, where is Alodor? Was he turned into a puppet by the Collector? If not, I have a theory that he turned himself into a rat in order to escape, which was foreshadowed in Clouds on the Horizon.

[@loosiegoosie5229]

Wasn't the rat his palisman?

[@_Mythic777_]

I noticed that too. I wonder what part he'll play in the finale? His absence has to mean SOMETHING

[@rafaelgiovannibatistaduran5709]

I think Alador is an puppet along the others in the Archives House

[@dianamuller4231]

maybe he, among Willows other dad and a few others created a separate rebellion group somewhere

[@demi-femme4821]

Willow's plant magic freak out reminds me of Gus' large-scale illusions from Labyrinth Runners.

[@soupy55]

Same

[@nitty21216]

What happened to that beating heart in Belos castle?🤔🤔🤔

[@multiverse_media2023]

Luz has battled the worst and has returned to the Boiling Isles. She won’t lose everything again. She won’t let her family be taken away again. And she’s got a Palisman now. Also, the comparison between Collector and Wanda Maximoff… that’s super accurate.

[@ryanclemons1]

belos "I can eat you"

[@lainadanger5998]

That orb thingy Collector is trapped in at 7:54 is exactly like a Beast Ball from Pokemon 👀 Beast balls were designed to catch pokemon from other worlds/outer space, and aren't good against any other pokemon. Maybe that's what it's about, it's something specifically designed to trap the Collectors and nothing else.

[@griseldamendez4549]

I think this is a detail I haven't seen anyone notice. In 13:10, we've got the Undestanding Willow pic of Willow & Amity hugging, but Amity's hair is green. Just like we got to meet her in S1, but then in 14:05, is completely brown. We know Amity didn't dyed her hair until she became older, so it's kinda weird. Idk, may be just an animation error like how it happened back in King's Tide with Eda's bard sigil

[@BlueAlienSmilevideoss]

I think that maybe it’s because Amity went back and fixed that memory while she had green hair!

[@SuperSwordman1]

I have to say this. Ever since "Yesterday's Lie" I've been kind of one the defense of me pointing out how Camila's inability to fully understand her daughter could cause major problems for Luz down the line. I was frequently told I was "projecting" my own insecurities onto Luz. This episode CONFIRMED that Luz needed, more than anything, to feel understood. I doubt I'll get any apologizes or "you were right"s, but I just can't get over that.

[@theluigifan1]

I think more people were hung up on the harsh statements and unfounded criticism Camila had thrown her way (I.e. accusing her of being abusive) rather than arguing about the nuance behind Camila’s decisions as a parent. Camila never hated Luz’s antics or personality, she was just afraid of her daughter struggling like she did in her youth so it led her to make an impulsive decision to have Luz sent to that reformatory camp. (Luz being impulsive herself, you can say it’s a “Like mother, like daughter” sort of thing) Even before this episode, you got the sense that Camila loved Luz, she just wasn’t sure how to navigate supporting her, especially not on her own without her husband Manny. Being a mom is hard and I imagine being a single mom is even harder.

[@loosiegoosie5229]

I'd argue the opposite. I feel as though Camilla understood Luz to a great extent but never knew how to help her daughter. So just how she was forced to conform to society, she began to lead Luz down the same path. Not to say Camilla completely understands her daughter, but having been in a similar situation, she definitely understands the hardship her daughter is going through

[@HalfBreadChaos]

Two thing can be true simultaneously. One can be trying their absolute hardest to support their daughter, and failing to meet their needs. Like Steven Universe, and Encanto, I feel this is a subject that can be difficult to unpack, because a lot of us have generational trauma. One advantage to fiction, is that it can show us a way forward, a way to heal, and mend what was broken, but because we live in a muddy imperfect world, things will almost certainly never be so simple. It's hard to accept and internalize that you've hurt your kid, and it's hard to know if it's wise or safe to give a parent a second chance when they have. Working through shared pain is never going to be a smooth seamless process. I feel like fandoms often over-analyze and nitpick the apologies, and the work that the characters are doing, ignoring the fact that the imperfection, discomfort, stumbling, and the little mistakes are all part of it.

[@mden08]

It seems clear that she fully understood Luz as she went through the same exact thing, yet she caved to the pressure as she was from a dodferent generation where you had no choice but to do so really, in many families at least…was more the norm. She was taught this and as we saw, she lived this as she continued to hide from lose what should have been something perfectly normal to tell her, she was a secret sci-fi buff/nerd… she was still adhering to the same pressure thinking she had to keep this a secret. She did not want to celebrate it because she probably thought that she was doing the right thing to Luz by having Luz not be like her as it caused her problems. But she didn’t tell Luz to conform…she kept the snake skin, she defended her to other parents..we saw all this…instead it wasn’t until the proncipal manipulated and threatened her and as a single mother who had no one else to support her anymore, she caved. She was in a vulnerable place. She loved and supported Luz the whole time but was threatened by the pronciple and trust me, they DO talk just like this principle…it may not be as overt as that camp but this is the pressure you get as a parent for yoir nuerodivergent kid to confirm. The school constantly throws this down your throat and as a single parent? You’re in a vulnerable state. I imagien Dana wrote some of Camilla adter her own mother…it’s a journey, her and Camilla went on together. Camilla always loved amd understood her but caved to rhe constant pressure of the school system To try and make her conform ‘or else’,…she was manipulated into thinking she was a bad mother for supporting Luz. Luz was understood but she needed her Mother to tell her…I imagine w/the camp she didnt feel that way. Camilla came from a diff generation where she too meeded to learn to free her own self from the prison she had put aspects of herself in just to get by, doesnt mean she didn’t umderstand Luz…jist that she gave in to the pressure when tricked into thinking her choices for her child were wrong.

[@Lisa_Flowers]

@@HalfBreadChaos Great comment and observations. I think what makes this harder is that like you said, fiction is often a lot 'cleaner' and simpler than real life. So things that might take years to happen, happen in an instant and are often a lot more seamless. Camilla is a great parent who made a bad decision under a lot of stress and pressure, but there are a lot of parents who aren't as 'perfect' and generally great outside of the more extreme bad decisions they make. It's easier for Luz to forgive her and for them to get back on good terms because Camilla realized without much convincing that she had made a mistake and pushed Luz away, and she rectified that mistake by supporting her in every other way possible. Many parents don't do this - they take longer to realize they've made mistakes, if they realize it at all. They continue to exhibit toxic or difficult behavior outside of those bigger mistakes. Or the relationship otherwise continues to be strained and imperfect, because even if you know they're trying their best, it still doesn't change the effects of their harmful behaviors. Now Camilla made this realization after the issue came to a head (and not in the many implied disagreements she had with Luz before she run away) so she isn't perfect either, but things still get resolved a lot more cleanly than they typically do irl. It's hard for people to not carry their own experiences into the media they consume, especially when there are a lot of gaps left to fill because of how much less complex media portrayals of these kinds of things tend to be compared to real life. It's hard not to overanalyse or project when fictional events in tv shows remind us of real life things we've experienced.

[@InvertedCreeper1611]

One tiny thing that I saw was that in the playground, one of the swings was broken. This is because the owl beast ate that swing in the episode that King took them to the playground so he could dominate it or smth my memory isn't that good lol

[@svxd7369]

I can't believe there is one more episode left and I don't want any sad deaths. I just want to see Luz and company happy and ok by the end.

[@rafaelgiovannibatistaduran5709]

Me too

[@kingcreep8374]

Well 😅

[@doodleplayer4014]

I don't remember where the theory came from, so I'm sorry, but someone said that the collector that capture the owl beast is different because it's more blue than purple, it's taller, like in the paintings. It also stores creatures in a different way. The Collector currently taking over the isles is using puppets, while the other one uses scrolls. I think it was Zeez Vov Geez 2 or The Roundtable that thought of this.

[@TheCommenterDragon]

Like everyone else I was so excited to see what Luz's Palisman was going to be! String bean was so cute! and i can't wait to see her help Luz face off against the Collector because given the ending scene of this episode there is no doubt gonna be a big fight in episode 3.

[@Starwarsfanboy0928]

I’m sure the opening scene will be the Hexside Squad battle the Collector and now that Luz’s magic has been doubled now that she has her palisman and Hunter has Flapjack’s powers, they can at least try to blind him in order to get inside.

[@rafaelgiovannibatistaduran5709]

@@Starwarsfanboy0928 i hope that Stringbean defends her owner Luz and the others from the Collector in his new ultimate game, i hope the Collector doesn't manage our six heroes into puppet in the third special will come that in april 8

[@mcgomery7067]

I find it creepy that The Collector uses the Titans Skull as the castle, so King is living at his alleged dad

[@gaiapsyche]

I see paralels I dont like. 1- The collector's castle looks like Azura's crow 2- Camila points that she sees how the boiling isles could help in Luz's taxidermy hobbie - kinda like what the collectors do... Also, I dont like the fact the collector's magic is represented by a moon in the forehead, it makes me remember the scene where Willow get a goo star in her forehead as mockery

[@bryanthernandez9769]

8:27 When I saw this for the first time it remind me the fight of Saitama vs Genos when Saitama almost did the “DEATH” Punch

[@christinewhoyt]

I know I just started watching the video, but we know that there were more collector in the past. I don't think our collector is the same one that captured the old beast.

[@kianalexandrojosiahlacsama9071]

Actually our collector is good there are other collectors in the paintings and it shows that our collector is an outcast and in the book that king reads to the collector it say the others stink I think others means other collectors

[@briibreadncheese]

WAIT so if the supposed “Eclipse Queen” could be the collector’s mom what if their dad is kinda like the “Sun King” or smth similar like the sun and moon dynamic That would explain the Collectors sun and moon theme

[@jonathanrolle2046]

I don't remember where or who said this but there is a theory saying the collector that trapped the owl beast and owr collector are two different people because the one from the dream is taller and collect creaters by turning them into spell's while our collector turns things into toys.

[@deshawnedwards6412]

For The Future was my favorite of the final episode so far. Can't wait to see what comes next in the final episode.

[@rafaelgiovannibatistaduran5709]

Me too

[@Lexuua]

During the scene when luz and the gang go through bonesborough and they pass the playground, you can see the swing that the owl beast ate all the way back in escape of the palisman from season 1!

[@ChocolateMan142]

I don't think the great huntsman is the same collector as our collector, since our collector is much smaller and more playful and uses puppets to seal people and not scrolls, I believe the greathuntsman who turned the owl beast is a different one of his species

[@ilyballoon]

When Lilith said “stay away from my nephew!” The collector only knows a nephew as the way belos treated hunter so he thought Lilith was going to hurt him like belos did to hunter since that’s all he knows Just a theory but it’s cool

[@MunchieDM]

I managed to avoid all spoilers before the actual release:)

[@tahraethestoryteller6079]

Lucky

[@Stargazer_Ley]

Knowing the title for the last episode...we do have a hidden message. "Thanks For Watching."

[@khalidhenry3857]

I wish palismen were real. Also, I just thought of something: What if Belos gave Hunter his name because he's a witch hunter?

[@FlybyStardancer]

Dana confirmed in a Post Hoot that the name “Hunter” was absolutely a play on “witch hunter”, and roughly half of the grimwalkers were given that name because Belos liked the joke so much.

[@soupy55]

That was confirmed in an episode already Its also like Painfully obvious anyway I do wish hunter got to pick out a new name for himself bc the two choices they have are....pretty shit

[@lionsgamers592]

@@FlybyStardancer that's so evil lol, nice to see it confirmed

[@lionsgamers592]

@@soupy55 yeah...let's say that Caleb doesn't really fit Hunter but I want him to keep Hunter for now

[@arohamumberry7324]

Just so you know, lilliths "Raven bro" is named Socks

[@botfly8464]

The collectors race reminds me of Trazyn from 40K He's ancient being who has lived many millenia and collects articfacts to history books to INTIRE BATTLES and if he can't get what he wants he'll take it by force

[@mikechicago6200]

Man i love this and sadly only 1 left, and i wonder how they gonna end this, please give us a Whitabane brother flashback!

[@funkycat1706]

im so upset that gus had absolutely no scenes, i wish huntlow never became cannon and instead gus willow and hunter got more attention as a trio

[@dns-8996]

I am so sad the show is ending so many unanswered questions

[@mackthompson616]

pretty sure our collector is different from the one that trapped the beast

[@pinckzstreaming]

I've been combing through the series with a fine toothed comb and every time I do I find something new. But there is NO doubt in my mind that Evelyn and Edalyn are related. I'm not sure what exactly went down with every gritty detail, but I seriously think Dana has been leaving breadcrumbs this whole time.

[@ronanlynch4831]

Actually Bellos said the grimwalker he tried to possess was "not ready" so I think it was just a backup that was like, growing like a plant or something

[@CarlosGuzman-vi9xw]

There are WAAAAY too many mysteries/questions to be resolved simply within an hour. That's Why I believe Dana's gonna set up future Owl 🦉 House storylines.... "Finale" or not

[@rebeccataylor3223]

Or she might pull a “Gravity Falls” and “Amphibia” and make a book/journal that will give us more info- I’m rly hoping she does lol because those things are amazing to read

[@critterwhisperer5821]

27:37 think back to disneys Hercules. When hades was trying to take over Olympus during a planetary alignment

[@w3ird_k1d70]

Whoever took care of the younger kids from Hexide needs a raise

[@SilverZephyrFalcon]

Oh man. I didn't notice what the other pictures were in the photo memory section when I watched. Knowing that all of them were points that Luz feels guilty for hurts. Props to the team for not just using random memories for those pictures.

[@doodlebob9570]

I like to think that the collector who nabbed the owl beast is a different one that's been steadily influencing the child into doing "bad" things so they could become the powerful one. And the redemption ark is gonna be for the child collector when he defeats the real big bad. But that also seems like a long shot🤣

[@robertosaez3384]

in the collector's book full prop it says something about the dimension of humans. Im expecting a revelation that the queen of collectors (eclipse queen/interdimensional queen), went to live on earth and is part of the Noceda family tree

[@goopyslimeman7269]

This reminded me of weird magedon with the weirdness waves as sparkles and intro being distorted and a chos god being the big bad

[@Rain0T]

i still don't get what teaching Belos the light glyph even did. like, i don't remember it showing up in any of his glyph combos, so what did Belos even do with it that Luz feels so horrible about?

[@tyrant-den884]

interesting the way the collector draws King's head looks a lot like the robot's head.

[@derrickdaniels3955]

Is it possible the Titan Trappers are descendants of Collectors who lost their powers because of the Titans?

[@DeadpanArts]

I find it weird that in most of the drawings there’s three collectors but there’s four in one of the drawings (not including king’s collector) so what if there was a collector who had the same ideas as kings collector.

[@bequinhacn]

Is it just me or did getting chased by souls into an old grimwalker remind me of another british man who always comes back

[@littlestar.cosplay]

I would love to know about the history of Flapjack for sure! ❤

[@amandaa8472]

"Miki" and "Roka" are made from some tossing around letters of "Kikimora". If you split Kikimora you get Kiki and Mora. Switch the first letter and you have Miki and Kora. Split Kora into Ko Ra, switch the first letter = Ro Ka, and put together. Miki and Roka.

[@avch1209]

Philip will always continue to believe that Caleb fell in love with a witch because he was under a spell that "tortured him against his will" and Philip as an advocate of euthanasia believed that killing him would free him from his "torture".

[@The-worlds-biggest-dummy]

Personally, I think it was a different collector that trap the owl beast because that one’s taller too tall

[@rain6957]

The Collectors all but won, at least around the Boiling Isles and King's dad did a hail mary for all of life. All the life on the Boiling Isles except Luz, witches, King, and Belos comes from the Titan, potentially all of the Demon Realm comes from Titans since that's where everyone lives. The life being role of the Titans in conflict with the Collectors is very fascinating to think about. Sorry that was a slightly high thought that meandered. The first part is my theory that the Boiling Isles exist as a last ditch stand for life complete with a baby safeguard in King, like things feel intentional enough to be strategic. The second part is just my fascination with the ecological role of the Titans and with that the curious role of Titan trappers in perpetuating life and how the titans kind of have to die (sort of, in-between guy makes me wonder if life and death is more blurry for them) in order for life to flourish.

[@ixeliema]

Going to be honest I see the flags for Raine's possible death and sacrifice and say "okay but how about Camila" because there's rarely circumstances in which parents and children reconcile and bond a lot within short periods of time where things don't go horribly wrong in the end. I worry deeply for Camila's safety.

[@parnellomello]

Omg this comment made me realize that Camila has a high chance of dying I can imagine a scene where Camila is seen with Luz father (who also died) in heaven or something like that

[@threeicedcreams]

There’s absolutely no way in hell they would orphan Luz. That doesn’t seem like something Disney or Dana would do

[@ixeliema]

@toots mcgoots I do agree Dana would likely not. I don't agree with Disney not doing that bc Disney 100% kills parents for drama.

[@BlueSnake8656]

"For the future" is basically a kid-friendly rumbling.

[@Now_Roxas]

To awnser the thumbnail question Marcy falling down a flight of stairs while her cape catches fire Thinking INSPIRING WOW I CAN BE A BETTER CHARACTER NOW

[@Bluegill001]

I’m expecting a giant king controlling the titan vs giant collector/Phillip. Bring me the Boiling King!

[@tyrant-den884]

I dunno, I think of that was supposed to be Anne: shed be missing a boot.

[@mb_torpedo]

It can’t just be me who thinks that the archives looks like the crown that Luz gave King in the first episode, right??

[@noblesix-p7p]

All that juicy lore in that long ass book I NEED IT

[@avch1209]

Maybe some titans survived the hunt and fled to another dimensional plane to escape the collectors and are now watching everything that happens on the islands (and maybe even on Earth) but without interfering like Marvel's Watchers

[@kanosukiLexe]

Yay your back. Missed you Whitney. Got the notification you was here and I clicked so fast

[@brycejohnson6234]

This episode was sooooooooooo good, but I was sad to see my guy Alador missing. I need him and Darius to have a dramatic reunion where they can reconcile and fall back in love. 😭😭

[@loosiegoosie5229]

Back in LOVE?! Where they ever in love?!

[@svxd7369]

I think you mean become friends again.

[@brycejohnson6234]

There’s a large portion of the fandom that theorizes Alador and Darius dated back at Hexside and Odalia got between them.

[@kiddkarterr]

@@loosiegoosie5229 fr

[@rafaelgiovannibatistaduran5709]

I think that Alador is an puppet along with Perry (Gus' father) and the others in the Archive House

[@VioletPlays1037]

If you compare our collector to the collector in “Knock Knock Knocking on Hooties Door” their patterns are actually inverted. So the sun and moon are on opposite sides. Also when Lilith goes to get king she uses “my nephew” when talking about king. If the collector is so disconnected from mortals the only other nephew relationship was Hunter and Bellos. That’s maybe why they immediately went into a defensive mode to protect King. Just my thoughts

[@squigglepin]

In season 3 episode 2 the picture of Willow and Amity hugging shows Amity's hair green but in the season 1 episode it shows her hair as brown.

[@Contherage]

Something that Bellos said to the ghost of Caleb "I tried to save your soul" actually has caught my attention. While most likely he simply meant from the witch. But I've had this theory for awhile that Caleb is the owl beast. Season 1's hidden message is how I came to that theory. But since getting confirmed they were human and that Bellos has been using Caleb's body for things, I figured that theory no longer held water. HOWEVER, the use of the world "soul" is something I found odd. Could Bellos have tried to put Caleb's soul somewhere? The full theory incase of any interest, the "curse of feathers and mud" Bellos does look pretty muddy. The feathers we assumed was Eda. But would that make Lilith be mud? Never seen her turn into mud. We know that Bellos betrayed Caleb with a dagger in the back, but Bellos believes Caleb is the one that betrayed him by getting close with Evelynn. "Two witches torn apart, now alone. Two hearts of stone" Magicless witches? Could be Eda and Lilith. But they are not alone at the end of season 1 anymore. But they are without magic. Bellos has been pretending to be a witch while Caleb seemed more into the whole idea of being one. There are still plenty of holes to try and fill in. But I couldn't make it whole. One that I was having trouble with was actually the Collector in the owl beast's dream. While typing I may have came up with a patch. On the titan trapper isle there was a broken mirror, like that one that had our kid Collector in. This broken one had another Collector sealed away, but somehow was able to get out. Instead of doing as the kid is doing, it went out to collect. And this Collector could have just left sometime after turning the owl beast into that scroll. A lot of speculation for this part. But it was a tall collector in the dream, not the kid. Hopefully this is easily understood. I did my best to make it simple, I think. But still came out a bit longer than I wanted. If you've read to here, thank you for your time, and please be nice to me with any replies. I frighten easy.

[@fruitygarlic3601]

It's an interesting theory and I like that it explains things we don't know about the Owl Beast. However, I think that Belos referenced something he would have learned from his and Caleb's upbringing: "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." He would find it more merciful to kill Caleb and leave him to his due punishment (Hell) than let his soul corrupt any further.

[@avch1209]

Isn't it strange that when you take out your memories with those tweezers your memories are seen but from another person's perspective? shouldn't YOUR memories be seen from YOUR point of view?

[@theblackrainbow]

Looking back at it, "new hexside" really reminds me of how the students at hogwarts lived in the room of requirement during deathly hallows

[@MisterBallZach]

You I've been watching your coverage of owl house for ages and I just realised who you are LMFAO hi Whitney

[@doodlestars7682]

The whole "ecplise queen" thing is actually a reference to SVTFOE, as it goes deeper into "fighting evil with her family baton" which was revealed by one of people who worked on the episode

[@avch1209]

the color of that silhouette is the same as the color of the collector's eyes when he was spying on King

[@nickmilano2516]

Everybody is saying how gross Bellos is but I think he’s probably one of the most powerful characters besides the collector because even if he slowly melts when he needs a new body he literally has the power of Bendy he is liquid and can Turn into anything he wants

[@Lumberjack_king]

6:34 Is it weird how what the collector did to the boiling isles is like a cute version of weirdmagidon it’s the “cutepocalypse” those waves are like how bill made weirdness waves

[@slaytasticlucy]

I immediately clicked this vid, because the thumbnail is my *FAVORITE* shot in the series!!!❤

[@Violetgalaxyshimmer33]

When i saw the snapshot i thought luz’s palisman was going to be a galaxy lol

[@Glaceonmon]

I hope Darius and Amity's dad get together ❤️

[@ivycream7228]

this makes me wonder more what power does string bean have. also just imagine the castle crush on belos

[@Dadoodadaydee]

3:12 I love how the hand emoji's are severed hands, just like king says after Luz sent her mom a thumbs up