You seem like a very caring ESTJ. That’s a good thing in my book. Much love
@Lev-The-King2 жыл бұрын
Hey thank you!!
@M.Moadeli1234 жыл бұрын
I always used to read isfj is the most feminine but digressed. Infp stroke me as more feminine. Myself an enfp. Mostly feminine but my te can make me quite out there, outspoken, assertive etc.
@Lev-The-King4 жыл бұрын
I'd venture to believe ISFJs are the most feminine of the mid tier section.
@PowerRedBullTypology6 ай бұрын
I think ENFPS have indeed both masculine and feminine qualities. ENFPS seem way more masculine than infps. I do not perceive isfjs that feminine personallty, as Si is sensing and sensing is more masculine than feminine
@andrew.lanc3r4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting take on things. I am an ESTJ, and my best friends are ENFJ, ISTP, INTJ and INFJ. My girlfriend is also INFJ. Quite accurate indeed.
@Lev-The-King4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a really good friend group 🙂
@andrew.lanc3r4 жыл бұрын
@@Lev-The-King Yeah for years, I didn't know why we click until I dig into the Myers Brigg Personality types. Everything's starting to make sense now.
@ethtt4 жыл бұрын
Much more convincing than simply judging by Direct/Informative. And this rings true to my experience with certain types and how I would regard them in terms of masculine/feminine. Great work!
@Lev-The-King4 жыл бұрын
Thanks I appreciate it. Would you mind elaborating more on your experiences with these types in terms of their feminine and masculine traits?
@ethtt4 жыл бұрын
@@Lev-The-King If I use my idea of masculinity gathered from The Way of the Superior Man, How to be a 3% Man, No More Mr. Nice Guy, then I can see from the people in my life that direct types aren't necessarily the more masculine ones. For example, I would regard my ESFJ friend to be quite masculine- he values physical strength and takes his purpose (to become a medical doctor, to be a Christ follower) very seriously. And the ISTJs who I've known, I would consider feminine- they care about the "small things in life." My ISTJ friends seem to not care as much about their direction/calling than their relationships and quality time. And gosh they're ALL about the details in everything. My ISFP younger brother is much more masculine than I am (an INFP), in his behavior and also in his drive for his pursuits. And INFJs, masculine?? In my experience, INFJs, male or female, behave very femininely (just in the way that they act- I haven't known any very personally). Just my experience!! (and I am at risk of confirmation bias with my Ti demon)
@Lev-The-King4 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Thank you for sharing.
@ethtt4 жыл бұрын
@@Lev-The-King No problem- keep up the great content!!!
@Anika50023 жыл бұрын
@@ethtt Do you know Jaebum( from Got7) everyone in the group respects him and Lee Dong-Wook both of this guys are infjs. Nothing about them is feminine at least to me.
@danieltarantino9884 жыл бұрын
As a triple systematic intp I see all sorts of elegant outplays with the type grid. But this one is new to me. :D With the balancing masculine/feminine traits. Anyhow, great video Lev. ;)
@Lev-The-King4 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated. Very interesting actually to see that Yin and Yang, masculinity and femininity still finds balance among the types. The question is now for me, when it comes to the INFJ+NFP relationship, where is the masculine tilt for the INFJ+NFP relationship? How do they find the balance? They have 4 masculine traits to 12 feminine traits. The others like STJ+STP aside from ISTP+ISTJ, NTJ+NTP and ENFJ+NFP relationship have a slight leaning towards one or the other but not as much as INFJ+NFP.
@danieltarantino9884 жыл бұрын
@@Lev-The-King An observation of mine is with the cognitive orbit. Take estj for an example. To get your sub-consciousness, swap every letter of your type (infp in this case). if you want to have your shadow, you only swap the first and the last letter (istp in this case). And to get your demon, you swap the two middle letters (enfj in this case). And funnily enough this works with any type. ;)
@Lev-The-King4 жыл бұрын
No for sure. Just wondering about INFJ+NFP relationship balance now.
@danieltarantino9884 жыл бұрын
@@Lev-The-King Can't tell much. I see the pairing system of csj more about avoiding interactional conflicts. Technically anyone could be with anyone, if both are mature and ready to solve their problems. But golden - bronze pair is more naturally fluid I'd say.
@Lev-The-King4 жыл бұрын
I'd venture to say, there might be balance found in the other sides of the mind
@M.Moadeli1234 жыл бұрын
Isfj women always stroke me as the disciplinary and tight lipped woman who judged and punished. Don't find it particularly feminine.
@hello-rz4kx Жыл бұрын
Is my ISFJ mom feminine? She is balanced, if she were feminine or gentle as me, an INFP with normally high feminine energy, I would probably like her a lot more. Embarassed face...
@Bloody_yank5163 жыл бұрын
I'm Enfp and I'm trying to become more Masculine in life and in my relationship with my ISTJ Fiancee. With no examples of Masculine ENFP it's kind of hard because your right ENFP we have alot of Feminine traits. I'm going through an introspective war with myself trying to develop my masculinity. It's made me introspective which makes me temporarily INFP and that is counter productive. It's a wierd struggle brother.
@jlk69162 жыл бұрын
A year late, but Tom Brady is an ENFP.
@Lev-The-King2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/g5zSl4KvncZmic0 You can watch him get typed here at around the 1:36:30 mark. Don't do a fly bye comment on who's someone's type is without giving any evidence. Very unethical in the typing community
@jlk69162 жыл бұрын
@@Lev-The-King I'm already aware of that video. Instead of getting all your information from CS Joseph (someone notoriously bad at typing people), you should read the actual sources (Berens, Keirsey, Beebe, Jung, etc.) and type people yourself, using your own judgment. If you're not a reader, INFJinxed here on KZbin summarizes their content more accurately. Don't be lazy and "rest on your laurels, ESTJ" as Chase himself would say. Instead of going to primary sources, you're playing a game of telephone with someone who has an agenda when in comes to skewing the truth in order to make a profit. One of the books on Robert Greene books on his website literally advocates for putting out wild ideas in order to attract attention. He mistypes people and acts as though he were a guru for it, when he's just wrong. Also, you can't type people on the fly with one or two videos, especially since he's going in with a conclusion and looks for evidence to support his position. Do you really think someone would type you accurately with a short clip of your life in a context where you're in public and doing things to be seen as socially acceptable rather than completely open and authentic, like you are in private? Even if you're strictly a CS Joseph disciple, he himself has put out a masculinity ranking through a live stream, where he ranks it this way: (most maculine) ESTP -> ENTJ -> ISTP -> INTJ -> ESFP -> ENFJ -> ISFP -> INFJ -> ESTJ -> ENTP -> ISTJ -> INTP -> ENFP -> ESFJ -> INFP -> ISFJ (most feminine). As you can see, accoring to him, Se is the main driver. I directly asked him about whether Fe-Ti was masculine on a live stream, since Fe gives love (man's role according to him) and Te gives respect (woman's role according to him), but he said that it doesn't work like that without any further elaboration. Not that you should give what he says about relationships any weight, since he advocates for hyprocrisy by saying it's okay for men to have several partners simultaenously, while women should share a high value partner (Red Pill Polygyny), which isn't only ethically incorrect but senseless as a system. Systems based on hyprocrisy quickly fall apart. Finally, even CS Jospeh has had to contradict his previous compatability videos and now has tiers of compatability based on socionics, lol, where Bronze pairs and Pedagogue pairs rank higher in success than than silver pairs. Anyway, while certain types are more prone to masculine behaviors, different societies socialize their people differently, so an INTP living in an Amazon tribe in South America may be more masculine in reality than an INTJ living in New York. Fe users adopt tribe values more quickly, so ENFJ men can act very masculine with direct language, while ENFJ women can be very feminine, by still being direct but flowery in their language. Also, a female tert Se user will understand how to look feminine more easily than a tert Si user, even though INxPs are cognitively more feminine than ENxJs. I know I just gave you a lot that boils down to me saying you're wrong, but I want you to know that ESTJs are one of my favorite types. We share the same four sides of the mind, and my ESTJ superego has been helpful in my life. My mom is also ESTJ, so I know how underrated the type is in the typological community.
@Lev-The-King2 жыл бұрын
You still didn't give me evidence why he's an ENFP. Why don't you provide me a system that is better than CS Joseph's so that I can use that instead to verify people. So far no one has come close other than socionics but even that's flawed. Knowing CSJ personally, he's not in it for the money. If he would be, he wouldn't be doing this.
@jlk69162 жыл бұрын
@@Lev-The-King Heads up, I edited my previous reply, while you were writing your response. Besides his notoriously unorthodox (lead Ne) and un-vetted health beliefs (childish Te), ESTJ Candace Owens explains how he selfishly prioritizes his own Fi over his Te: kzbin.infoFJEofpxvn7Q . While ESTJs can do unexpected and undorthodox things to achieve their goals, it's usually because they've looked at the cutting edge research and adopted it before everyone else. One of my best friends is an ESTJ power lifter who stays on top of the scientific literature, so he's cutting edge enought to look unorthodox, when the truth is that he's just an early adopter of properly vetted information. ESTJs are still bound by the fact that they have an SJ temperament. I can't give you a shortcut to a counter system to CSJ's. All I can give you is sources you can use as a framework to exercise your own judgment case by case. INFJinxed here on KZbin gives a broad enough overview of things to help you skim through the other stuff. Her overlaps with CSJ are a good indicator of what he took from others vs what he made up. Edit-- I forgot to say that while your masculinity framework isn't perfect, it's more accurate in reality than the CSJ ranking I pointed out above, which doesn't factor in the idea that the critic function is one of the top 3 most pronounced functions in the stack, and ESTJs have Se critic--one of the reasons they can be confused with ESTPs, who have critic Te. ESTJs are cognitively one of the most masculine types IMO. Looking at the CSJ type grid, the DICs are the most mascline and background types are the most feminine IMO. According to that system, I'd say it's ranked this way: DICs (most masculine), Finisher types (the ones associated with being a "sigma male", ugh), Starter types, and finally Background types (most feminine).
@destinocoley11333 жыл бұрын
I like what you did but I have to make a few improvements to your system. First things first I agree with all the masculine traits except for Ti + Fe. I would say Ti + Fe is both masculine and feminine. Think about it, ESFJ's are very feminine most of the time because of that Fe hero trying to make people feel good. While INTP's or ISTP's can tell people the cold hard facts. Ti would masculine and Fe would be feminine And I would say the same thing for Fi +Te. I agree Te is more factoid based but it still is very systems focused and all about numbers. Numbers and data do not account for feelings which I would say is Fi. Fi is morals and how you feel which I would say is more Feminine. Te is masculine and Fi is Feminine. Te and Ti are masculine Fe and Fi are feminine. Here is the same ranking you did in your video with a little bit of tweaking. ESTP ENTJ (7) ESTJ (6) ISTP INTJ (5) ENFJ ENTP ISFP ESFP INTP ISTJ (4) ESFJ ISFJ (3) INFJ (2) ENFP INFP (1) I think this looks more realistic but I could be wrong love to hear your thoughts.
@Lev-The-King3 жыл бұрын
I actually agree with your reasoning and was debating back and forth on if this should be the system to go by. Well specifically simply not including Fi+Te and Ti+Fe to the score because yes they do cancel out. Granted a similar case can be said of Ni+Se and Si+Ne. Really good job on your end my friend for pointing this out.
@aladdout94543 жыл бұрын
sorry but sfjs are more feminine imo.
@Lev-The-King3 жыл бұрын
I agree. I don't endorse my list anymore.
@elperroreggae3 жыл бұрын
mm ISTJ is way too low for what it actually is
@Lev-The-King3 жыл бұрын
I agree and I am contemplating taking this video down because of the inaccuracies.
@PowerRedBullTypology6 ай бұрын
I think in first instance , a yin/yang comparison could can made between functions and types. Basically Thinking is more masculine than feeling and sensing more masculine than intuition. Basicallly, the masculine functions are tanguable, compact, clear, objective, measurable just like direct observations. If you see something with sensing, you see it. There is no question about it. It's clear and it's there. Intuition is vague..it's like kinda like foggy..its unclear ..its a bit of guessing, it's basicaly the invisible comparedd to to the visible (visible being sensing) and has a higher subjective element to it (since its interpretation whereas with sensing there is less interpretation) Also, masculine things are very external. Sensing is external. It's not about what is inside the senseinsg, bt the sensing is the thing. Intuition is already more internal..its about some potential that is unclear and invisible ...thus more feminine A similar comparison could be made between thinking and feeling, where thinking is more clear and objective and feeling requires more interpretation. Also, feeling has a larger subjective eleemt about it since unlike thinking that uses more objective metrics (like lets say logic) its either true or not true and both parties can calculate with the same objecive numbers to arrive at hte same conclusions. Thirdly, I would say extraversion is external too and more orientated towards action and movement than the introverted. In terms of yin/yang, movement is masculine and I would say men are more movement orientated than women (can especially be seen in little children - boys run around and girls usually dont as much to that level- no matter their types) Based on these things, the 2 most feminine types were I believe INFP and INFJ and the most masculine ENTJ and ESTP? I calculated it once with giving each trait numbers..like extraversion is +1 for masculinity, thinking is +1 and sensing is +1 ..so for example Te is very masculine cause its extraverted and thinking. However, interestingly enough all of this is their EXTERNAL side...so their superficial layer side. The ENTJ for example often appears super masculine externally, but their internal functions are Fi and Ni, are the complete opposite and are the most feminine functions most feminine. I have noticed this in such types too that appear very masucline..once you get to know them and let their guard down, deep down they way are more feminine than they appear, way more uncertain, way more needing affirmation. They would just not admit it openly, cause outwardly they often want to display certainty and arrogance. Te for examaple appears super certain, but if you know them and discuss things, its more the display of certainty. funnily enough the INTP I believe has the most masculine introverted functions, being Si and Ti because both Fi and Ni are more feminine and unstable, more subjective, etc. Outwardly the INTP does not have confidence at all caus their extraverted functions are not masculine (Ne + FE) , but inwardly they have a lot of inward convidence in themselves. Being an intp myself I have often noticed this when interacting with people. WHen i was young I thought all these extraverts were confident just because on the outisde they knew how to behave..nbut inwardly they have so much more issues, need affirmation from others nad what not..its more the shell on the outside that is hard with them (like a crab), but inside they are mushy cause their introverted functions are weaker. Anyway..whole story, knda messy..but maybe you get what I mean also looking at some stats how many times types tend to be male or female, the types that are least often female are the INTP and ISTP. They're also very unlikely to be gay when male. Howevr, the femmales are very rare and often gay. The exactly opposite thing is true for Fe where the Fe doms are least likely to be male, yet if htey are male they have a high percerntage of being GAY. ENFJ and ESFJ are #1 and #1 most common types ni gay guys. Since guy guys and woman both are more masculine than lesbian women and straighgt guys, it seems to give the impression that TI is the most masculine function and Fe the most feminine. So it's not really a clear cut answer, but just some ways I could to look at it
@Lol125164 жыл бұрын
Cool vid Lev! Thanks for sharing. It was very comprehensive 😊 It's funny, cause esfj's are often considered so femine, that it almost feels like pressure sometimes... It's nice to know it's okay and natural to be balanced 😋
@Lev-The-King4 жыл бұрын
Happy to help and I'm glad you enjoyed it
@muriellechery14914 жыл бұрын
Movement isn't chaotic it questions and changes bad order for the better sometimes. 😊
@Lev-The-King4 жыл бұрын
No order without chaos. Yin and Yang are complimentary. Like Outcome/Control vs Progression/Movement. You're not wrong though.
@jasminemariedarling4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! I'm infj, and so is my father (he's awesome, but very feminine lol)..And my husband is estj- super alpha, but I wish he was a little more sensitive! 🤣
@Lev-The-King4 жыл бұрын
Ya I feel that. It'll take a bit of patience and understanding from him to realize it's ok to let that side out, especially to an INFJ that are very warm and compassionate to Fi users. Something that I've had to learn and INFJs have helped me be more in tune with my emotions.
@jasminemariedarling4 жыл бұрын
@@Lev-The-King So you're saying he DOES have emotions? He claims he's a robot lol. J/k, thank you for the insight, I really want to understand how his mind works! 😁
@Lev-The-King4 жыл бұрын
Ye. Honestly you have to be careful with it. ESTJs put up a big front and a tough guy attitude but deep inside is their Fi inferior that is this adorable little teddy bear. Let him know that whatever happens you'll be there to comfort him and remind him he's not a bad person. Tell him you won't judge him and it's ok to be himself with you. This is best done in private to prevent embarrassment.
@jasminemariedarling4 жыл бұрын
@@Lev-The-King Awe, thank you so much! Appreciate you taking the time to help 🙏
@Lev-The-King4 жыл бұрын
Happy to help. Hope it turns out and you both get your needs met.
@reysabelr43432 жыл бұрын
WAIT 🤣 You had a beef with Shapiro?! How?
@Lev-The-King2 жыл бұрын
He's not honest about putting US' interests ahead of Israel's. Also biases his view of Christianity through the lens of Judaism instead of looking at the facts which shows there's little evidence to prove the stories of the Old Testament says without the evidence that is the New Testament. By that I mean he uses the Old Testament to "disprove" the New Testament but he doesn't have the evidence to prove the Old Testament. Not anti-Semitic, just can see the bias when I see it. Would recommend Cold Case Christianity to prove why Christianity is the only religion with evidence that can validate or invalidate it.
@reysabelr43432 жыл бұрын
@@Lev-The-King Whoops! I didn't think you would reply so soon. Sorry. About his opinion on Old Testament, can you share the source where he said that? I'm curious but lack of context confuses me.
@Lev-The-King2 жыл бұрын
@@reysabelr4343 kzbin.info/www/bejne/havTaYeXrdR6mK8 From 2:16 onwards
@reysabelr43432 жыл бұрын
@@Lev-The-King Thanks, Lev!
@lianafrancisca83803 жыл бұрын
Watching this video and seeing myself being the weakest pisses me off.(so being the weakest is feminine in society that's f***** up 😂😂). I have a friend she is an infp too, she asked me one day do you feel empty and not content? Not because of relationship or work. Just like that? I was like no. I have a loving mom(esfj) a witty dad(entp) and a crackhead brother (isfp).....have no space for empty. She was like 👁️👄👁️ Also my dad is an entp 3w4 and I am 4w3. Being under the influence of a assertive and ambitious man made me quite an aristocrat. My probability of marrying an estp is 0 percent but if they win against an entj on problem solving and strategic planning I might get a crush. I am pretty biased because I am in love with a highly intelligent Entj.
@Anika50023 жыл бұрын
What a coincidence I am an infp 4w3 and my dad is an entp 3w4 too. The only difference is my boyfriend is an intj. Are you sure your lover is an entj. I wish we could match here too 😂. Btw girl your eyes are so pretty. Are you an angel? Your bf is so lucky He should put a ring on it.
@lianafrancisca83803 жыл бұрын
@@Anika5002 You are too kind. I will let him know when the time is right. I am not entirely sure if my bf is an entj. I asked him once he said entj. He is a cool, collected guy and very perceptive(a genius I would say). The way he talks makes him seem like an entj. "I am disgraced until I am winning." "Must it always come to violence? These people are uncivilized." "Manners, I do detest rudeness" "How old are you 5?" Those are his exact words 😂😂 He never shows his anger in public and he cares about his looks also he is an workaholic. His peers love him. I think he is too charismatic to be an intj but who knows.
@Lev-The-King3 жыл бұрын
Never said being feminine is weak. Quite the opposite actually when mature.
@lianafrancisca83803 жыл бұрын
@@Lev-The-King I know you didn't say that. It's just my theory. I don't appreciate how the internet represents us( crying in the bathroom while everyone else is partying 😂😂😂). I think I cry from happiness more than I cry from sadness.
@Lev-The-King3 жыл бұрын
Cool. I don't think that at all if anything.
@M.Moadeli1234 жыл бұрын
At the end you called conflictors duals. Have you looked into socionics by any chance? The types you mentioned such as estp and infp, estj and infj, are in fact worst types aka conflictors. Then again, who knows.
@Lev-The-King4 жыл бұрын
I have looked at socionics and I do not agree with their model for relationships
@M.Moadeli1234 жыл бұрын
@@Lev-The-King Fair dues. :)
@babyyT4 жыл бұрын
Came up on my feed, peaked my interest. S’about right. Female ESTP.
@Lev-The-King4 жыл бұрын
Sweet!!! Very cool
@chaoticorder74814 жыл бұрын
this video was really interesting. i liked the whole "tallying up the points". i have one question. thoughts about responding being more masculine? technically the person who is responding in a situation holds more power. initating is also somewhat associated with the affiliative which is feminine.
@Lev-The-King4 жыл бұрын
They do have power however, they are at the whims of the initiator. An initiator can always go to a responder but a responder isn't one to naturally go to an initiator. That's kind of my reasoning for it but it's not great. Yes though that initiating can be somewhat associated with affiliative cause if group dynamics. Something to ask Chase in a Q&A.
@M.Moadeli1234 жыл бұрын
Infj is meant to be you worst type compatibility wise, as per socionics. As an enfp, my worst type is meant to be istp, and surprisingly I've been in 2 relationships with istps and they were fun from a distance but TERRIBLE as a romantic partner. So, socionics compatibility theory seems to be credible when compared to experiential data, in my case.
@Lev-The-King4 жыл бұрын
Nature vs Nurture and a lot more determines how compatible you are also
@user-fx7rr6lv8h2 жыл бұрын
I have such a difficult time with ISTJ's not being immediately after ESTJ
@Lev-The-King2 жыл бұрын
As in interested? They're two similar types so why would you want to be into types that are similar and not have polarity?
@user-fx7rr6lv8h2 жыл бұрын
@@Lev-The-King I've met way too many ISTJ's in my life and my father is one also, so I don't see them as more "feminine" than ENFJ's especially, but maybe that term isn't exactly fitting since it gives me a different image than what it is intended - ENTJ
@Anika50023 жыл бұрын
If I get along with estps I will get along with monkeys too.😝😝 Just kidding.
@Lev-The-King3 жыл бұрын
We're all monkeys 🙈🙉🙊🐵 Just kidding 🤣🤣🤣
@jeremydonah54424 жыл бұрын
How are ENTP'S not direct? What?
@Lev-The-King4 жыл бұрын
Look up Who are the starter types? ESFJ, ESFP, ENTP, ENFP by CS Joseph. It'll explain why they're informative
@muriellechery14914 жыл бұрын
Actually you got it wrong estps tend to like isfjs while being the lest compatible with infps so your kinda wrong there. (and no i am not saying it is impossible for infp and estp to be together).
@Lev-The-King4 жыл бұрын
Ummm how? ISFJs are 5th highest social compatibility with ESTPs making them eachother's pedagogue and 2nd highest romantic compatibility while INFPs are 3rd highest social compatibility and 4th highest romantic compatibility with the ESTPs. You can look at Who are ESTPs most socially compatible? on KZbin by CS Joseph to see why.
@RobinHWebb-bm1bl4 жыл бұрын
I'm an INFP and ESTPs are my LEAST favorite of all types. Personally, I find them crude, cocky, and shallow...all major turn-offs.
@john-paulbitler36574 жыл бұрын
Damn my brother and I are both betas “apparently” My brother, an ENFP I can see. Me, an INFP, not so much. I mean I’m hella caring and that, but I’m pretty Independent, along with some more of those traits I used to be a beta, but now I just don’t give a f*ck 😂 I’m more Sigma
@Lev-The-King4 жыл бұрын
You're not limited by your type, you're only limited by your mindsets. NPs are meant to become the strongest types when they develop
@john-paulbitler36574 жыл бұрын
@@Lev-The-King I know and thanks Also, nice video. Seems pretty accurate to me
@friendlyanomaly61092 жыл бұрын
@@Lev-The-King Fr? I thought y'all XSXJs hated us? Lol.