Who can get the farthest over Temple? (SSBU)

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STHFan1992

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@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 4 жыл бұрын
Remember, this is Ultimate so the details may not be the same as they were in the previous Super Smash Bros. games. Here are some details for each character's rankings but remember to read the description too. *Donkey Kong* Spinning Kong's horizontal recovery has been nerfed, which is why Donkey Kong can no longer make it to Rank C. *Link* Exploding the Remote Bomb manually is less effective for recovery, which is why he has to wait for it to explode automatically like he did with his *normal* Bomb, keep in mind that it explodes after about 30 seconds. *Samus & Dark Samus* Their Bombs get them slightly further than without them. *Yoshi* Using the aerial Egg Throw the second time increases vertical momentum, which gives him better recovery, even better than it was in Brawl. *Kirby* His faster air speed gives him better horizontal recovery in *this* game than in Smash 4, although it's not as good as it was in Brawl. *Fox* His highest gravity & fastest falling speed make it harder for him to get to Rank D than Falco, his Forward Air midair jump doesn't make much of a difference and that shelter is obstructing his Forward Air ledge hop. Also, I made sure he didn't land on the ground during Fire Fox, I can tell by the aerial Fire Fox's start-up animation. *Pikachu* Skull Bash's end lag has been reduced, which allows Pikachu to use 2 uncharged Skull Bashes without landing, so it can make it to Rank B. However, the Thunder jump technique increases vertical momentum of its jumps, which allows it to use 3 or 4 uncharged Skull Bashes without landing, performing it like a smash attack can get Pikachu to Rank S. *Luigi* Check the trivia in the description. And remember, these misfires are not all that reliable. Also, I realised I pressed the Shield button too late instead of holding it until the 3rd misfire stopped, I actually thought it was the end lag that prevented me from air dodging. If Luigi uses the 3rd misfire too early, he will land on the platform above. *Ness* Even though PSI Floating now only works with aerial attacks and not air dodges, his higher midair jump & faster air speed give him better horizontal recovery, which makes it easier for him to get to Rank D. *Ice Climbers* Squall Hammer's recovery has been nerfed even with mashing, which is why the Ice Climbers can no longer make it to Rank C or even Rank D. *Pichu* Unlike Pikachu, if Pichu doesn't use the Thunder jump technique, Skull Bash will make it land on Rank E before it gets a chance to do anything else because of its faster falling speed & more end lag. Pichu's faster falling speed prevents it from getting to Rank A instead of Rank B unlike Pikachu in Smash 4. *Young Link* His horizontal recovery has been buffed, so he can make it to Rank D. Also, watch the update. *Mewtwo* Confusion now reduces horizontal momentum, which makes Mewtwo's recovery worse however, the return of directional air dodges can get Mewtwo to Rank A when timed correctly. *Mr. Game & Watch* His Up Special now consumes his midair jump completely however, his Down Special's end lag has been reduced, which allows him to use the Bucket jump technique before using his Up Special. *Meta Knight* Mach Tornado's recovery has been buffed, so Meta Knight can make it to Rank A. *Wario* His horizontal recovery has been nerfed, which is why he needs to air dodge to get to Rank S. Also, that shelter increases the speed of the Wario Bike, it doesn't count as landing because it doesn't regenerate his midair jump, only certain parts of the Wario Bike is on that shelter but not all of it is, similar to Dragon Lunge. I made sure there were no screeching sounds or white smoke particles *while* I was on the Wario Bike, same with the ground particles during Corkscrew. *Pokémon Trainer* Watch the update. *Ivysaur* Its faster air speed gives it better horizontal recovery and it no longer free falls after its Up Special, so it can make it to Rank E. *Diddy Kong* Rocketbarrel Boost's recovery has been nerfed however, version 3.1.0 made Diddy Kong fall slower while charging it, so he can make it to Rank A instead of Rank B. *Sonic* The return of directional air dodges make it easier for him to get to Rank S. And remember, his Spring preparation isn't classed as cheating, just like Rush Coil & Link's Remote Bomb preparation aren't classed as cheating. *King Dedede* His faster air speed makes it easier for him to get to Rank D, although cancelling Super Dedede Jump is still the best option for horizontal recovery. Also, the Gordo-boosted Super Dedede Jump glitch that gets him to Rank C was patched on version 3.0.0. *Lucario* Its faster air speed gives it better horizontal recovery, although it still gets to Rank D. *Toon Link* His horizontal recovery has been buffed, so he can make it to Rank B. *Villager* Unlike Isabelle, getting Villager to Rank S without Tree preparation is harder than it was in Smash 4. *Wii Fit Trainer* Even though Deep Breathing increases air speed, it increases gravity & falling speed as well, which makes her recovery worse. *Little Mac* His faster air speed gives him better horizontal recovery, which makes it easier for him to get to Rank E. *Greninja* Remember, Shadow Sneak has end lag so it sends Greninja slightly further than the optimal way, therefore it still gets to Rank D. *Pac-Man* Bonus Fruit no longer increases vertical momentum however, Power Pellet's recovery has been buffed, making it easier for Pac-Man to get to Rank S with Villager's easier method. *Robin* Elwind's recovery has been buffed, so Robin can make it to Rank D however, charging Thunder increases vertical momentum like it does in Smash 4 but it can be cancelled with jumps as well, making it useful for recovery, this can get him to Rank C instead of Rank D. If the Elwind Tome runs out, his Up Special becomes a mini jump, timing his horizontal recovery correctly gets him to Rank B. *Shulk* If the Jump Art runs out during the second part of Air Slash, Shulk will gain more vertical distance as it reduces gravity & falling speed. Also, the Infinite Monado Arts glitch that gets him to Rank B was patched on version 2.0.0, so don't expect him to get help from King K. Rool with his Final Smash. *Cloud* Filling up Limit Charge increases vertical momentum of his jumps, this can get him to Rank C instead of Rank D. *Corrin* Dragon Ascent stalls him horizontally at the end, which is why he can no longer make it to Rank C. And remember, Dragon Lunge doesn't count as landing. *Bayonetta* Using one of her aerial attacks after Witch Twist increases air acceleration and the return of directional air dodges can get her to Rank C instead of Rank D however, timing her horizontal recovery correctly gets her to Rank B without wall clinging. *Inkling* Using one of her aerial attacks while jumping out of Splat Roller increases air acceleration, this can get her to Rank B instead of Rank C. Also, she's not allowed to land with Splat Roller for an extra midair jump to get closer to Rank A because it counts as landing. *Ridley* Remember, his Up Special doesn't work the same way as the Star Fox characters' Up Special moves, also it's impossible for him to use reversed Up Special, reversed midair jumps also ruin his horizontal recovery. *King K. Rool* His Up Air can be used for horizontal recovery and it's more useful than his directional air dodge due to less end lag, this can get him to Rank C instead of Rank D. *Piranha Plant* Long-Stem Strike reduces gravity although it stalls Piranha Plant at the end. Unlike Cape & Dancing Blade, Long-Stem Strike can be used for horizontal recovery, therefore Piranha Plant can get to Rank B instead of Rank C. *Joker* His Neutral Special reduces gravity while jumping, which gives him better horizontal recovery so he can make it to Rank D with Wings of Rebellion. If the Rebellion Gauge is almost full, Joker will use both Grappling Hook & Wings of Rebellion in one jump, which can also get him to Rank D. Timing his horizontal recovery correctly gets him closer to Rank C. *Terry* Remember, the command inputs only change the range of his Up Special, not his Side Specials, holding the button is obviously the way to do it (which I did). Also, the command inputs for his Up Special doesn't make much of a difference in this challenge. *Byleth* Areadbhar stalls him horizontally at the end. Keep in mind that Byleth wasn't released when I made this. *Min Min* Performing her aerial Punches like smash attacks has more end lag than ARM Hook. Keep in mind that Min Min wasn't released when I made this. *Kazuya* The gravity boost from his midair jump makes it impossible for him to get to Rank D. Keep in mind that Kazuya wasn't released when I made this. *Mii Brawler* His slower air speed, higher gravity & faster falling speed make his horizontal recovery worse and Feint Jump's diving kick travels at a lower angle, which is why Mii Brawler can no longer make it to Rank B. And remember, Feint Jump automatically drops through thin platforms, therefore Mii Brawler didn't land on the ground, you can even see his midair jump animation. *Mii Swordfighter* The free fall from Airborne Assault can be cancelled with another move, using it with any one of his Up Special moves can get him to Rank B, although Hero's Spin is the best choice since it has the best horizontal recovery. *Mii Gunner* Using reversed Absorbing Vortex during the ledge hop followed by his midair jump & Forward Air gets him the farthest. Remember, if you feel that a certain character can make it further (which I can't get them to do), don't just make suggestions (along the lines of "I think", "probably", "maybe", etc.), learn to try them yourselves before jumping into conclusions of saying "[this character] can make it further", especially when you have this game, if you don't have it, don't assume they can make it further, unless you have proof.
@vickyvalle1546
@vickyvalle1546 4 жыл бұрын
Not that it would matter in his placement here, but R.O.B. can alternate between his b-air and his up-b(since he can use it more than once) and gain a decent amount of horizontal distance from that.
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 4 жыл бұрын
That's right, it doesn't matter in this challenge because it's optional. According to the trivia in the description, I just wanted show everyone that he can make it with just his Up Special and nothing else (although his other aerials can be used to increase air acceleration at the end), just like Peach & Daisy can make it without their midair jumps as well, Sonic & Duck Hunt Duo can make it without air dodging, Villager can make it without Tree preparation, Hero can make it without Acceleratle and Banjo & Kazooie can make it without Snake's method.
@cosmiccatalyst6448
@cosmiccatalyst6448 4 жыл бұрын
STHFan1992 how far can min min go?
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 4 жыл бұрын
@@cosmiccatalyst6448 Like always, I will make a video about it.
@julima390
@julima390 3 жыл бұрын
@@STHFan1992 wow you really shut my mouth there i can tell that you put a lot of effort into your videos you really deserve more subs
@shyguyissoawesomeguys
@shyguyissoawesomeguys 4 жыл бұрын
Good video. But you forgot to try Bowser's Koopa Jetpack Ike's Bumper Ability (from FE9) Little Mac's Bee Jump
@AtypicalStart
@AtypicalStart 3 жыл бұрын
What about how good gannon is with the ladies?
@tinodaperson7174
@tinodaperson7174 3 жыл бұрын
Nice reference 😂
@keylarous467
@keylarous467 4 жыл бұрын
I love that the challenge was done in ultimate shadow I wish it had more views
@selkie5088
@selkie5088 3 жыл бұрын
Wow this guy is updating every newcomer. Respect
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 3 жыл бұрын
It's what I do. 🙂
@pizzawonderer5024
@pizzawonderer5024 3 жыл бұрын
Here comes all the "Jumpman can't make it" jokes.
@PomadaGaming
@PomadaGaming 4 жыл бұрын
You deserve a shitton more of views
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@noiceqwergppl6571
@noiceqwergppl6571 4 жыл бұрын
10:12 hmm 🤔 I think I saw that before from another smashtuber Now I know that is really interesting
@5C0RP_
@5C0RP_ 4 жыл бұрын
5:50 :)
@TimeStamper9000
@TimeStamper9000 Жыл бұрын
For Lucas. You couldve did the thing where you double jump and pk fire at the same time then use the magnet like in brawl. You go very high when you do that and you will get some kind of boost right when you use the psi magnet after the pk fire)
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 Жыл бұрын
You do know those techniques only work in Brawl, right?
@TimeStamper9000
@TimeStamper9000 Жыл бұрын
I don’t get the joke. Because I saw a video of someone doing it in brawl. You see.. Lucas is in both brawl and ultimate, so I tried doing it on my switch and I kept failing to do it so that means even though I was doing all the steps correctly, I just need LOTS of practice timing the double jump and Pk fire at the same time. (I’m About to try it right now.)
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 Жыл бұрын
What joke? You mean someone told you that Zap Jump & Magnet Pull work in Ultimate when they don't? I could've asked you if your main comment was a joke since those techniques obviously don't work in Ultimate. Lucas was playable in Smash 4 as well. And just because those techniques work in Brawl, it doesn't mean they work in any other game.
@TimeStamper9000
@TimeStamper9000 Жыл бұрын
Oh. I didn’t know it wouldn’t work in ultimate too like in brawl and smash 4. I did all of that practice on my switch for nothing. 😢😤
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 Жыл бұрын
Again, those techniques *only* work in Brawl.
@elite_drift947
@elite_drift947 2 жыл бұрын
6:25 You stalled for a moment, if you maybe like stalled a little less, then you could of airdodged into the s area
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 2 жыл бұрын
Read the pinned comment, I already explained why I got him to Rank A instead of Rank S.
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 2 жыл бұрын
Also, if I release it too early, he will land on the platform above.
@keshonwright411
@keshonwright411 4 жыл бұрын
I see you used the Dragon Roost remix from ParagonX9
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 4 жыл бұрын
Yep
@crud5237
@crud5237 3 жыл бұрын
It might be possible for Greninja to get farther if you use his counter then go diagonally with his up-b.
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 3 жыл бұрын
Check the rules in the description.
@tiermaster1357
@tiermaster1357 4 жыл бұрын
Good attempts, BUT little Mac CAN definitely get further since you forgot about his signature Jetpack!
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks but his hidden Rocket Belt got removed the moment his Side Special was changed.
@tiermaster1357
@tiermaster1357 4 жыл бұрын
STHFan1992 Well shit! I’ll see if I can datamine the game to get it back
@erickzuniga8571
@erickzuniga8571 Жыл бұрын
(Don't care about the year) For some characters, Don't you have to go with the ones staying behind and then the ones who goes farther
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 Жыл бұрын
Like all previous games, the main order is the rankings F to S, and the suborder is the character roster.
@littlemacisunderrated412
@littlemacisunderrated412 3 жыл бұрын
I bet Mac could do it If you gave him a jump up spirit, extra jump spirit, a final smash, a character to footstool, a person to give him a counter to attack, and a jet pack Then I think he’d have a chance
@littlemacisunderrated412
@littlemacisunderrated412 3 жыл бұрын
But he could actually make it farther if you used aerials, but at the most, d tier
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair, everyone can make it by breaking the rules. Obviously, Little Mac's aerials won't help him.
@littlemacisunderrated412
@littlemacisunderrated412 3 жыл бұрын
@@STHFan1992 they actually will, they provide him with much greater aerial drift, it’s actually the only way he can make it under smashville
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 3 жыл бұрын
Aerial attacks don't increase air speed, they increase air acceleration, which doesn't apply to going *over* stages alone, although Inkling needed one after jumping out of her Side Special. R.O.B. & Corrin's Back Air and Mii Gunner's Forward Air are the ones that increase air speed, King K. Rool on the other hand can use his Up Air to gain more air time for more horizontal distance as seen in the video. Are you absolutely sure Little Mac can legitimately go under Smashville? Have you tried it? Did you see anyone do it? Do you have proof?
@tinodaperson7174
@tinodaperson7174 3 жыл бұрын
The Final Smash alone could get him to like C or B
@christimehl7532
@christimehl7532 2 жыл бұрын
Robin is actually rank E
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 2 жыл бұрын
...in Smash 4, but check the pinned comment.
@harker2591
@harker2591 3 жыл бұрын
What about psi magnet
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 3 жыл бұрын
It makes their recovery worse, which is why nobody ever uses it for recovery, especially horizontal recovery.
@colingamer5073
@colingamer5073 3 жыл бұрын
Description says villager doesn’t have to use up b
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 3 жыл бұрын
...by using Tree preparation: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5THm5-hgJdjj9k
@colingamer5073
@colingamer5073 3 жыл бұрын
@@STHFan1992 ooooooo
@JamesSolimanJohn146
@JamesSolimanJohn146 4 жыл бұрын
Young Link (B) here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/laSXYYh3pt95etU
@hfplaysrblx6964
@hfplaysrblx6964 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure Yoshi could make it to rank S!
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 3 жыл бұрын
I kept trying but it's still not possible. That's the farthest he can get, same with Mr. Game & Watch and Meta Knight.
@littlemacisunderrated412
@littlemacisunderrated412 3 жыл бұрын
Corrin shouldn’t count Side b pin is touching the stage
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 3 жыл бұрын
Read the pinned comment.
@therandomtokener8568
@therandomtokener8568 4 жыл бұрын
Yoshi was so close
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 4 жыл бұрын
Yep
@chickenwing4804
@chickenwing4804 3 жыл бұрын
You missed pit and dark pits side b
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 3 жыл бұрын
…on purpose due to end lag.
@buchijason5296
@buchijason5296 3 жыл бұрын
Luigi: WHYYYYYYY
@alexiosiggy3837
@alexiosiggy3837 3 жыл бұрын
Hasta que alguien si ahorra el combustible de R.O.B.
@ketsuryugan
@ketsuryugan 3 жыл бұрын
Charizard can actually make it to A you just need to only jump once then flare blitz then jump again then flare blitz
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 3 жыл бұрын
Have you tried it?
@ketsuryugan
@ketsuryugan 3 жыл бұрын
@@STHFan1992 I have seen it happen I can link the video and time
@ketsuryugan
@ketsuryugan 3 жыл бұрын
@@STHFan1992 kzbin.info/www/bejne/laSXYYh3pt95etU the time is 0:38
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 3 жыл бұрын
Have you considered looking at the comments section of that video?
@ketsuryugan
@ketsuryugan 3 жыл бұрын
@@STHFan1992 sorry I did look at the comments but I didn't see your comment sorry for wasting your time
@bruhm0ment6000
@bruhm0ment6000 3 жыл бұрын
Rip hero
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not quite sure what that means but Hero obviously got to Rank S, unless you're referring to the black lines in the video.
@chickenwing4804
@chickenwing4804 3 жыл бұрын
Wolf side b would have made it farther
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 3 жыл бұрын
His Side Special may have more range, but his Up Special has more momentum, therefore they have pretty much the same results.
@ilovehoneyberryfromarknights
@ilovehoneyberryfromarknights 3 жыл бұрын
Damn atleast little mac isnt last
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 3 жыл бұрын
In terms of going over stages, he was never last. He actually got to Rank E in Smash 4 as well, leaving Ganondorf the only one who could only get to Rank F.
@Daboss204-erq
@Daboss204-erq 4 жыл бұрын
I didn’t expect pikachu (my main) to make it that far
@biandanxious3438
@biandanxious3438 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a peach main and I knew she could go twice as far as she did in the video lol.
@sfergi25
@sfergi25 3 жыл бұрын
Boi you kidding? He's heckin pikachu! Of course he can make it. (My main also)
@masterbeegmac18
@masterbeegmac18 3 жыл бұрын
As a pac man main, I know that his recovery is really good and i never thought of putting the fire hydrant on the pillar thing, very creative! You know, you deserve more views and subs! I enjoy that you've put some effort in your vids! I like your tier list for rank! Its organized.
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I'm glad you like it. 😁
@aggrise6427
@aggrise6427 4 жыл бұрын
Great job, gonna recommend it on my channel soon, sice I wanted to make the same thing just now.
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks 😁
@Zapdos_777
@Zapdos_777 3 жыл бұрын
Nice seeing you here
@cosmiccatalyst6448
@cosmiccatalyst6448 4 жыл бұрын
Good video!
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks 😁
@NightmareFace
@NightmareFace 4 жыл бұрын
Nice 👍
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks 😁
@Anthonyvideogame
@Anthonyvideogame 4 жыл бұрын
My boi Banjo made it in S tier awesome
@shepman709
@shepman709 4 жыл бұрын
Hey y can't Ontario use aura
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 4 жыл бұрын
*Lucario. Also, read the description.
@all-stargamer7574
@all-stargamer7574 3 жыл бұрын
I'm actually impressed that you have managed to get 3 misfires in a row you have no idea on how extremely rare that chance is to get something like that
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, but I actually do know how rare it is, which is why I put it in the trivia section in the description.
@smoceany9478
@smoceany9478 3 жыл бұрын
1/1000 actually, insane
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 3 жыл бұрын
@@smoceany9478 It's in the description.
@smoceany9478
@smoceany9478 3 жыл бұрын
@@STHFan1992 i was telling shadow ghost
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 3 жыл бұрын
@@smoceany9478 Yeah but I already told him it's in the description, you know.
@elite_drift947
@elite_drift947 Жыл бұрын
If Mario’s cape still gave him a vertical/horizontal boost AND he still had his down b recovery, would he be able to get into Rank D or possibly Rank C
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 Жыл бұрын
His Cape only helped horizontally, not vertically. Keep in mind that his higher gravity & quicker air speed were the ones that made his Cape useless for horizontal recovery. It's definitely not Rank C, but it might be Rank D.
@elite_drift947
@elite_drift947 Жыл бұрын
@@STHFan1992 well in melee/project m, if you looked closely, it was both vertical and horizontal, but thank you for telling me
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 Жыл бұрын
Ok, maybe I was thinking about regular Brawl.
@jamesrussell8498
@jamesrussell8498 4 жыл бұрын
D E and F are failing ranking
@MultiArrest91
@MultiArrest91 2 жыл бұрын
Sonic got S!
@lukezhang7644
@lukezhang7644 3 жыл бұрын
For some characters couldn't u use air dodge to get further?
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 3 жыл бұрын
You do know directional air dodge has too much end lag, right? It has less horizontal recovery than most recovery moves, and some characters weren't even high enough to use one before using their Special moves. Keep in mind that Young Link was already updated in the description.
@KingBobaFett
@KingBobaFett 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video! :D
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 😁
@KingBobaFett
@KingBobaFett 4 жыл бұрын
@@STHFan1992 np!!!
@tinodaperson7174
@tinodaperson7174 3 жыл бұрын
I think if you time it just right Luigi can get to S with 3 misfires and a air dodge
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 3 жыл бұрын
Read the pinned comment, I already explained why I got him to Rank A instead of Rank S.
@Ramla_ruuxi
@Ramla_ruuxi 3 жыл бұрын
Luigi can make it to Rank S, trust me I have done it before. You did it wrong because you charged it for too long which prevented you from airdodging.Try it.
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 3 жыл бұрын
Read the pinned comment.
@Ramla_ruuxi
@Ramla_ruuxi 3 жыл бұрын
I know. Have you ever seen him make it or did it yourself.
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 3 жыл бұрын
If you do know about my explanation as to why I got him to Rank A instead of Rank S, then why are trying to explain what I did wrong when *that* wasn't the issue? And if you do know about my explanations as to why I didn't try it again, then why are you telling me to try it? If I have seen him get to Rank S or did it myself, I would've said he can without making an opinion, and it would've been in the video since recording it is the first thing I would do, considering how rare 3 misfires are to replicate, therefore you would've known about it.
@Ramla_ruuxi
@Ramla_ruuxi 3 жыл бұрын
I understand.
@cosmiccatalyst6448
@cosmiccatalyst6448 3 жыл бұрын
I retested everyone, and here’s what I got. -Yoshi can ALMOST get to rank S. He might be able to, but I wasn’t able to achieve it. -Kirby can get to rank C by going below the platform, although it’s hard. -Several characters like fox and g&w i could not get to their specific tiers -Meta knight can get really close to rank S, but I know it’s impossible for him to get to rank S. -By switching to charizard, Ivysaur can get to rank D. -By switching to Ivysaur and then charizard, Squirtle can get to rank D. -By using down special after ledge jump, back air after midair jump, and with a precise angle on up special, Lucas can get slightly farther in rank B, and might be able to get rank A. -Lucario is weird. On one attempt I was able to cling to the top of the rank C pillar after up special, and if I had airdodged up and diagonal toward the pillar after letting go of the wall (not wall jumping), I might have made it to rank C. But I didn’t, and I wasn’t able to do it again. -By using back airs, R.O.B. can actually make it to the true hyrule jump starting platform, which is the farthest out of all without self-damage. -By using down special, villager can much more easily get to rank S. -Without up special bouncing, mega man gets rank E. -Wii Fit Trainer can get Rank D even with deep breathing. -Speed Shulk and normal Shulk can get rank E, while Shield Shulk is the biggest rank F ever. -Joker without Arsene gets rank F -Without zoom, hero gets rank B -Steve can get even farther than R.O.B. by using blocks -Without his winged form, Sephiroth gets rank E -Kazuya gets rank E
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 3 жыл бұрын
Those are the results that I've already got, as seen in the video, although my method for Kirby is easier.
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 3 жыл бұрын
I see you edited your comment for additional information after I replied to it. 😐 *Yoshi, Meta Knight & Kazuya* I already got those results, you know. *Kirby, Mega Man, Wii Fit Trainer, Shulk, Joker & Sephiroth* I'm leaving out the obvious flaws & handicaps for this challenge since they're not important, except for the Ice Climbers of course. *Fox and Mr. Game & Watch* Don't worry about it, I already got those results. *Pokémon Trainer* The results usually go to the one who landed, not the one who started, although it would just be Pokémon Trainer altogether. From Squirtle to Charizard, I got them to Rank B. I had to use Squirtle's midair jump before switching at the apex, use Ivysaur's Up Special before switching of course, use Charizard's jumping Side Special and then its Up Special. I made sure Charizard didn't land before using its Up Special as there were no white smoke particles during start-up. From Ivysaur to Charizard, I got them to barely make it to Rank A, which is difficult. I had to use Ivysaur's Up Special before switching, use Charizard's midair jump before using its jumping Side Special, and then use its Up Special. Again, I made sure Charizard didn't land before using its Up Special as there were no white smoke particles during start-up. I might even make an update video about it, although I don't usually include switching during an actual jump. *Lucas* Unlike Ness, Lucas cannot use PSI Floating with his aerial attacks, due to higher gravity. Also, he's not even close to reaching Rank A, considering he's only going *slightly* further in Rank B. *Lucario* Remember, *all* platforms count as disturbing objects, this includes any physical wall recovery, which means wall clinging is the same as landing on the ground, according to the rules of this challenge. *R.O.B.* I was able to do all that without using his Back Air, by doing what I did in the video, he just needs to midair jump at the end in order to get on the platform. *Villager* I know Tree preparation makes it easier, I just wanted to show people his true horizontal recovery. *Hero* I got him to barely make it to Rank A, which is difficult. I had to time his Acceleratle the same way I timed Shulk's Jump Art, in order to reduce gravity & falling speed at the end. But I'm still leaving out the obvious flaws & handicaps for this challenge. *Steve* I left out his Blocks because he's simply *standing* on them like platforms he's not allowed to land on, similar to Pac-Man's Fire Hydrant.
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 3 жыл бұрын
Have you seen my latest update video?
@petery6432
@petery6432 4 жыл бұрын
I am a bit surprised that for Simon/Richter DA-ing was not optimal.
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 4 жыл бұрын
Don't be, their directional air dodges have less range, which is why we use their Up Special moves instead.
@cosmiccatalyst6448
@cosmiccatalyst6448 4 жыл бұрын
Little Mac isn’t in the lowest tier for once...
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 4 жыл бұрын
This isn’t the first time, Little Mac got to Rank E in Smash 4 as well but the creator called it “Rank F” by mistake, that left Ganondorf the only one who could only get to Rank F because he was the worst at going over stages. Little Mac’s horizontal recovery is better than Ganondorf’s, Chrom’s, Byleth’s & the Belmonts’.
@Spork7vv
@Spork7vv 3 жыл бұрын
PAC-MAN, Jigglypuff, and peach must’ve been so easy
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say Pac-Man was easy, although I successfully did it multiple times. I'd say Snake was easy and most certainly R.O.B. who only used one recovery move after the ledge hop.
@Spork7vv
@Spork7vv 3 жыл бұрын
@@STHFan1992 I forgot about rob but im a pac man main (Dont ask) so I thought I would know how to do the path easily
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 3 жыл бұрын
Pac-Man would be extremely easy if he uses Mega Man's method however, I went against that for obvious reasons, considering there's no lava.
@Annadog40
@Annadog40 4 жыл бұрын
Lit
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks 😁
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 4 жыл бұрын
Also, have you seen my Brawl version?
@Annadog40
@Annadog40 4 жыл бұрын
@@STHFan1992 yah, it has the same music, this one is a musical rebel
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I wanted to use that same music since it was used in the Melee & Smash 4 version as well, just to fill the gap. For *this* version, I wanted to use different music, so they're not repeating themselves too much.
@jairoperdomo4743
@jairoperdomo4743 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't you use luigi cyclone to gain some height
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't you know it was no longer a recovery move?
@jairoperdomo4743
@jairoperdomo4743 3 жыл бұрын
@@STHFan1992 oof I don't have ultimate so I didn't think something essential to luigi's recovery in previous games got taken away
@tinodaperson7174
@tinodaperson7174 3 жыл бұрын
It works in SSB4 but not SSBU
@sonicstar917
@sonicstar917 4 жыл бұрын
I think Byleth would probably be F Rank.
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 4 жыл бұрын
I’m actually going to make a video about it, you know.
@sonicstar917
@sonicstar917 4 жыл бұрын
@@STHFan1992 Oh, okay.
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 4 жыл бұрын
It's here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pXSzgamigph4ba8
@jamesrussell8498
@jamesrussell8498 4 жыл бұрын
A B and C are passable ranking
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 4 жыл бұрын
Not really, *S* is the only passable ranking for obvious reasons. This is a big stage, which is why we separate them into rankings rather than just passes & failures. You're probably thinking about Big Battlefield where all those who make it to Rank C or further can make that jump, including most of those who make it to Rank D.
@jamesrussell8498
@jamesrussell8498 4 жыл бұрын
Oh ok
@jamesrussell8498
@jamesrussell8498 4 жыл бұрын
S is passable too
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 4 жыл бұрын
That's what I said, I even said it's the *only* passable ranking.
@jamesrussell8498
@jamesrussell8498 4 жыл бұрын
Cool
@MewGame2
@MewGame2 3 жыл бұрын
Fox touched the ground
@STHFan1992
@STHFan1992 3 жыл бұрын
Read the pinned comment.
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