Who Could Face Charges & The Future Of The FA Cup? | Price of Football Fan Debate

[@MattLTT]

Best episode in ages on one of the biggest problems in football - fans being fleeced. Great to see everyone coming together and agreeing, solidarity is imperative.

[@rahulshah3517]

Maybe if the players didn’t demand a quarter of a million quid a week eh 🤷‍♀️

[@alingard1]

Is it though? It's basically a group rant . No talk if solutions or action to halt it. Just going round in circles really. Ratcliff, 66quid, blah blah blah Until fabs actually get together and be strong nothing will change , except get worse.

[@craigmullen9046]

​@@alingard1correct I've had this Argument. They will moan about it. But continue to sit on their hands and pay it. And I've stated your part of the problem!!!

[@2tearsinabucket521]

Same with our government..they are fleecing us,and the way they’ve treated the elderly lately is totally unacceptable

[@Justanotherandy63]

@@alingard1 It is the same with refs and VAR. If it's their team they scream and shout, if it's their rival, they don't say anything about the bad decisions, and often agree with the bad decision purely because it is against a team they don't like. Until everyone is singing from the same songsheet, nothing will happen.

[@heighleybaily8037]

This was an awesome convo. Fans need to stand together and stop the heart being ripped out of our clubs. Football is more than a sport or a spectical for tourists, it's our heritage

[@tomrwheeler]

It's so great to see fans that are so well-informed and understanding of the most important issues of the game.

[@ImSwaggyP]

As an American you have to fight this. It’s ridiculous how much NBA and NFL games cost.

[@pavolkocis7456]

Tell me about it. Next month, I'll be visiting Florida and thinking to myself about an ice hockey game in Tampa. The average price is around 200$. Total rip off

[@snoopaloop310]

Yeah, NHL is crazy as well.

[@timothybrown5741]

MLS prices are out of control too. Easy some seats in every stadium are over $120 I agree about nhl.. I tried to go to a blue jacket game and cheapest was $150 and they were playing blues.

[@OutpostTen]

Great having Kieran Maguire on, always insightful and measured. I used to enjoy his appearances on Stretford Paddock.

[@ZaaraMclean]

Steve Gibson deserves to be given more recognition for what he has accomplished and represents. He gambled and took over his hometown club, saving it from liquidation. He brought in world-class players like as Ravanelli and Juninho, and they won the league cup and advanced to the European final. Over the previous 15 years, he has worked tirelessly to promote young coaches and keep the club's balance sheet in order. He embodies all that English football once stood for.

[@callumatkins6891]

Not about budget for fancy players in my book, it’s about an owner like that running the club properly

[@garyrolfe7933]

UTB ❤

[@capio78]

Maybe 20 years ago. He’s shown zero ambition for a long time. We’re not balancing the books and sell all our best players.

[@DannyTaylorDT]

He’s a legend, but you might want to have a look at Boro ticket prices these days. £35 for a single or £550 for a season card, hence why the home crowds are becoming so poor

[@s1dew1nd3r4]

Totally agree he should be lauded.

[@garyvalentine8081]

That scouse lad was brilliant. Seems like he's doing some great work

[@CliveWarren-tu6wt]

Agree he was superb. Then Rory Jennings speaks 😂😂

[@YA-hm5zy]

​@CliveWarren-tu6wt rory wasn't bad lol. But Robbo is boss.

[@YA-hm5zy]

Also he's got a great podcast called the late challenge, if you're interested.

[@ScreechpowersUTE]

@@YA-hm5zythanks for this, been looking for a good podcast based around the reds

[@MidnightToker-ub4ni]

gareth's got a great podcast called THE LATE CHALLENGE well worth a sub!!!

[@anwla]

Big up to Paul Scholes speaking truth to the man 👏🏻

[@thezhat5806]

Honest to god this is the best episode yet

[@Angelaf9x]

As an American, this is a major issue in the United States. Prices for both games and concerts are outrageous. Except for upper middle-class families, no family can afford to attend games on a regular basis.

[@khalxd1991]

yes the prices in america are bad but our prices are 10% of yours for big games , we just loves to cry about everything

[@thebagelsproductions]

Owners will be crying when they kill the atmosphere at grounds and people lose interest

[@cleehomes]

Moved from Manchester to USA years ago and there is no way I could attend an NFL or NBA game with my family more than once a season! It's frustrating because I love watching top class sport live!

[@jakea.5952]

@@cleehomesit is crazy. Absolutely nuts

[@PaulAngeloff]

@@cleehomes agree. I go to one dodgers game a season. Maybe two. Will not pay the outrageous costs for NFL NBA and come to that major concert venues

[@jamesmichaels4979]

If clubs are really struggling, then reduce player salary

[@joncoish]

But player salaries don’t go up because all teams got together and decided to increase salaries, they go up because teams compete to try and sign players and different teams will offer higher wages to try and win those contracts. If you just tried to reduce salaries in England the top players would go to Spain or Italy, if they were reduced across Europe the top players would go to Saudi. The problem I see it is that the so called big 6 in England can handle it but then it gets passed down to the smaller teams as well and they’re the real ones that will struggle.

[@irawangani1]

Dont transfer the blame on the players

[@stephen-fu2ls]

The premier league needs to introduce a salary cap. Otherwise there will never be a player salary reduction due to competition to be promoted, not to be relegated, reach europe etc

[@chriswheal8204]

if one club reduces salaries and keeps ticket prices low, their players will just move to clubs that raise ticket prices and pay higher salaries.

[@stretfordender11]

Have a youth player in the squad rather than an over paid alternative. Easy solution

[@ryuhayabaker]

47:40 - as ridiculous as Rory might sound saying this, it's exactly what the FA Trophy used to do. Before the game they would have it set that every game goes to a replay, and it was down to each club a week before the match to decide do they want to finish the game on the night. If only one team wanted to finish on the night, it would go to a replay.

[@dimwitdave9344]

I think it's a great idea. I think the conversation would need to be had before kick off though, so that the players knew what was coming.

[@hulejiabrahamtukura4616]

But with broadcasting rights and all that... deciding a replay and suitable time for the replay would be hard to agree on

[@OCDean24]

Excellent to have Kieran on with his in-depth knowledge. Was great to see and understand what is actually going on at so many clubs these days.

[@spicecadet1126]

The wages the players earn and the transfer fees are too bloated. They are not worth so much. Footballers and agents cannot be allowed to bleed the game dry.

[@Ali-sj5pn]

Well said about kids football & paying over £100 for 60mins pitch it’s disgusting..

[@larrygerry985]

Then dont go...... the problem is that you still get full crowds. So the model works

[@Zwaaye]

@@larrygerry985 If you were able to read, you'd see that what was highlighted was kids paying for local pitches to PLAY football, not watching, and no mention of crowds

[@mickeyp1257]

The thing is you don't see kids playing football on any waste ground, or school yards like we did as kids, they're too busy looking at their phones !!!!!!!!!!!!

[@MCFCfoodbank]

@@mickeyp1257 seen the size of school fences these days, and depending where you are in the country there's no waste ground anyway everything's secured and being built on. Can't blame kids for not playing out if their parents don't let them out.

[@rafalrazmus]

Where are these pitches for £100? My son rents a 5 aside pitch with his mates for £5 each for an hour and this is in London.

[@connorwhyte131]

Premier league transfer fees are so inflated. Having a cap on ticket prices would help bring down the overall market prices of players meaning every club pays less anyway

[@carlmcgrath484]

Exactly the market will just correct and players will cost less, so simple

[@np4080]

You can't control unilaterally as players will move to leagues where they get higher wages.

[@connorwhyte131]

@ mid table teams are able to take players from some of the best teams in Europe. Theres only really Real Madrid or PSG that could pay more in wages than any other premier league team

[@bhvillaman4401]

Say goodbye to the world's best league if that happens.

[@connorwhyte131]

@ it’s been the best league for over 20 years. It’s only recently the lesser teams have been able to pay crazy fees. If the premier league teams stopped paying mad fees the market would go down across the whole of Europe

[@mrnikeshgudka]

Nieve’s point on Spurs is spot on especially on the part about standards created by ticket pricing

[@pmjon8420]

One of the most enjoyable episodes I’ve watched. It’s so good to have fans come together and share the same concerns and be willing to put rivalry aside. The financial analyst was exceptional. Well done everyone involved 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@iamthewalrusable]

I paid £350+ for a ticket in the kop for the Real game, most of the people around me were also 'tourists'. It cost me over £1000 to attend one game due to travel, the lfc membership pack cost me £65 a year for 'a chance' of a ticket. After 4 years i haven't been successful for 1 game.

[@pfella1878]

Your the problem I'm afraid

[@iamthewalrusable]

@@pfella1878 oh yes i fully agree. i would rather pay a sensible price and buy tickets through official channels, but thats not an option

[@phiIip488]

What a mug 😂

[@phiIip488]

Should’ve gone to an away match at a small club. Could’ve watched Liverpool for £20

[@callumatkins6891]

Support your local

[@alexab543]

Gareth Roberts by far my favourite LFC representative in the big youtube shows, thanks for platforming him!

[@matthewjamison]

💯. Redman TV are FSG apologists. So they can gain access to preseason tours, player/club access etc..

[@djrosser7167]

I met Gareth about 10 years ago when he was at The Anfield Wrap and I was experimenting with doing a Liverpool podcast. He's a really nice bloke, gave me some time when he didn't need to. I then saw him at Anfield a year or so later and had a nice chat with him. He's a very genuine guy, no ego and incredibly knowledgeable about Liverpool. Great to see him on here and happy his podcast is doing really well.

[@Danny_kay]

Yes facts lad its great we see him on shows.

[@t3zzy-rq6mj]

Well better than the redden tv

[@alexab543]

@@t3zzy-rq6mj I was thinking of generalist channels like Big 6 and DR, when it comes to Liverpool-centric content I also like a couple other guys, like, Josh Williams and Ian Ryan, but Robbo is still a top bloke either way, honest and straight-forward, tries to call it like it is

[@amesbringingjoy]

One of the best episodes I’ve watched. Could’ve watched it for hours & hours

[@TheDjd111]

Literally just met Kieran Maguire at my work what a great guy! great insight on the situation going on at clubs currently.

[@stuartfilby2358]

Really good episode. Best one, I've seen. Kieran was excellent

[@YerryMina187]

The Kopite is completely right. The substance is leaving the game.

[@celtic69]

Americanisation unfortunately

[@davidkelly790]

It left about 25 years ago, most people in England are only realizing it now.

[@ColmPadraig]

The substance left the game when the working class was priced out. That happened before some us were even born. A lot of people are just in denial acting like it's a recent thing

[@wilhelm_____4913]

is right fella, all kopites speak sense

[@owestyo]

That pricing at Salford is incredible. 6:07 to put that in context it’s £35 to watch a scarlets rugby game and the best players are always away on wales duty meaning it’s sub standard rugby at top price. Well done to Salford.

[@Itswilliams-xt7ti]

Well done ? £250 a season ticket when there’s championship clubs charging less than that

[@lloydc1092]

Let’s be honest , parc y scarlets is always empty with or without internationals 😂

[@owestyo]

@ 🤣🤣true. This is why though. It’s the same for every club.

[@owestyo]

@ what do you expect? £3 a game? It’s not the 40’s mate 🤣 £11 a game isn’t bad

[@ash-3340]

@@owestyoi paid less this season for a Birmingham season ticket

[@4211234]

first episode of this where everyone has been fantastic, having a good honest conversation, i like it

[@marcosmagic1983]

Brilliant episode Genuine concerns here discussed very well and the finance guy gave a great platform for all the others to work off with his detail & fact, Probs the best episode for me certainly one I’ve enjoyed the most 👏👏👏

[@adambartlett6277]

What a fantastic episode this is. Brilliant discussion about something very important in the football world

[@kiriakoz]

Nieve hasn't spoken yet but I wanted to be the first to post a "how good is Nieve" post in advance.

[@Axhdib]

😂

[@jennyradcliffe5570]

Why

[@MRT1601]

Calling all simps

[@parmaman8551]

AwayDays would have been a better representative for ‘lower league clubs’ than Nieve for this episode

[@ryuhayabaker]

​@@parmaman8551 really? He supports Leeds and Porto.

[@LensBadger]

FA Cup: Really simple solution… Scrap replays (and extra time). However, before the game, clubs are offered the chance to swap where the fixture is played. Lower league clubs would benefit from increased revenue (and fans get a day out). Premier League clubs have then benefit of playing at home. E.g Tamworth and Spurs would both prefer the game to be played @ Tottenham. Where teams are drawn against opponents in the same division (Blades Vs Cardiff), there wouldn’t be a replay which neither club (nor the fans) want. Furthermore, with it being decided in 90 mins (then straight to penalties) clubs are more likely to play stronger teams as there is increased jeopardy on the game and there wouldn’t be fixture congestion.

[@jakehowie442]

Actually a decent idea, if both teams agree to play at bigger stadium, they should. The only drawback it takes away the jeopardy of playing away a lower league ground with a crappy bobbly pitch

[@dancrooksycamore]

Change it to lowest ranked club decides rather than both having to agree.

[@TonyHavenMusic]

It’s almost like paying 100 million for a player and then 500k week isn’t sustainable, if only we had some form of accounting companies they could contact for advise

[@joncoish]

The problem is a few of the top teams probably can manage that from time to time, but then those big sales increase the cost of players across the board and it makes it hard for smaller teams, especially newly promoted teams, trying to compete. The disparity between the bigger and smaller teams increases.

[@deeno18786]

Best comment I’ll read today. It’s been out of hand for years

[@romulus3345]

30 years ago Roy Keane was the most expensive player in England when Man Utd bought him for £3.75M and gave him a contract worth £22k a week.. Today players like Sancho are being bought for $75M and being handed £300k a week. And the clubs expect the fans to pay for this!

[@WutangToft]

@@romulus3345 That's not true. Alan Shearer had already been sold for more to Blackburn and would be sold for even more to Newcastle only a year after. But I get the sentiment.

[@nicksims2827]

@@WutangToftEh? Shearer went to Blackburn for £3.3m and then moved to Newcastle in July 1996, 3 years after Keane went to United. If you’re going to be pedantic, at least be correct.

[@khabibsson7122]

The point about pitches costing £100 is so true, it’s got to the point where you can’t play football as regularly because it’s simply too expensive

[@gzchannel814]

Blame inflation..high cost of living.

[@robertdundee2011]

Some of the best Africans and Brazilians ever played football on beaches and waste grounds in their bare feet. The cost of fake pitches isn’t an excuse for anything.

[@colmcoakley3916]

The reason ticket prices are going up is because the average premier league player is on a six figure weekly salary and a typical transfer fee is north of 30 million or so. Yet the same fans spend every transfer window screaming at club owners to spend fortunes on new palyers for their clubs and if they don't said owners are accused of mis-running the club or not caring enough about the fans. Can't have it both ways.

[@garethshaw5165]

Kieran is a great addition really interesting to hear the financial side of the game.

[@sodawaterlime]

ESPN having rights to the FA cup is maybe the dumbest thing that’s ever happened to watching television

[@forza1248]

What was wrong when they showed FA Cup matches?

[@fireblader1000]

Brilliant, best one yet. Have Kieran on every week

[@splinter360]

Good episode and credit to Overlap for duscussing a seriouse issue.

[@Begbiespintpot]

If owners think that the best way to increase revenue is to price out regular fans at the cost of football tourism, then they risk destroying the atmosphere and the very reason for what has made the game what it is.

[@jakehowie442]

They’ve already done this in Premier League stadiums. Tourists have destroyed the atmosphere, songs are longer sung in most games

[@kb5509]

What atmosphere? Roy Keane was calling fans the prawn sandwich brigade 25 years ago.

[@LogBomb]

@@jakehowie442tourists haven’t destroyed it, the owners have. They’re the ones choosing to price real fans out.

[@ColmPadraig]

​@@LogBomb It's both

[@AnthonyRoe-w1q]

Stop over paying the footballers, then some of thier salaries are beyond ridiculous

[@hermankermit-warm1121]

Is that how capitalism works bruh? Let me guess, you like football so the thing you like should work differently to the rest of the world right? 💀. In a world where bank bosses get bonuses for corruption and failure you expect sports players for multi billion corporations not to be paid hundreds of thousands a week. How's the weather in Narnia?

[@hulejiabrahamtukura4616]

I agree but also I think capping salaries would encourage more third party payments. Like a player's family member hired as a "club consultant" by the "club sponsors". As I said I agree, just highlighting a potential issue

[@magscheshire8375]

@@hulejiabrahamtukura4616 I also suspect there’s potentially not wanting overseas players to decide against going to the premier league involved. If they pay the most wages and then attract the best thought that they get the best league

[@newcastlefanstv]

As Newcastle fans, we pay more than any supporter for an away game, simply because we have to travel the most. The nearest clubs to us is the Manchester clubs. So not just the £30 ticket, it's all that travel every time, and because of the distance, a lot will book hotels each time. Fans aren't looked after.

[@tonyshearring7190]

Would be good if all the fans of the 20 premier league clubs and beyond could settle on a date in future, to give everyone plenty of notice, go to the stadiums 2/3 hours early and block all the entrances of each stadium for the duration of the match. Its takes drastic action to get people to listen, although i doubt it will ever happen

[@jacobwatson309]

Last day of the season, all matches played at the same time

[@JackMiller96]

Probably one of the best episodes yet. But why do the people in the back row even bother going, they never speak 😂

[@EmArgh]

They don't get chance with Adam and Rory

[@16ozClawHammer]

You would assume that they do but it probably gets edited out when packaging up the show.

[@phiIip488]

Cause they aren’t media trained NPC’s like mckola and neive

[@soundchappy]

They are extras! They will be paid

[@Progressive90]

Fill in the frame? 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@robf4157]

Brilliant, glad to see this being spoken about. Tottenham prices are insane. I even pay £50 a year to be a member and still probably not be able to buy a ticket 😅

[@sidhhantagarwal]

This has to be the best episode so far. Kerman's insight into the numbers behind football is incredible, as a person running of Sports technology company in India I learnt so much from Kiran's take on the runnings of the clubs. In India we are following a top to bottom approach and following the franchise model (similar to the US) in most of the sports, of course the sports market in India is in nascent stage (except cricket), but barring cricket other sports leagues and even the 2 state leagues in Cricket are facing an uphill task of finding long term sustainability. The football pyramid in the UK and other EU countries is by far the best example of how sustainable sports businesses/league structures should be built.

[@theorgazoid4918]

Regarding the merchandise. The clubs only get a small percentage of shirt sales. Adidas didn’t pay Manchester United 750 million to make their shirts for United to keep all the profits.

[@ewan7283]

Finally a good episode of one of these

[@gregfox4411]

My goodness the Scouse lad speaks well!

[@jonnywalker3208]

The irony 🤣

[@sloppygoo]

His name is Jamie carragher he played for Liverpool

[@rogerdavies2796]

Robbo actually. Keep up.​@@sloppygoo

[@anndevries8267]

I really have a lot of time for Paul Scoles. He has been a really good addition. Measured but says what he means and quite frankly he makes a lot of sense.

[@JordanL7028]

Do like in Belgium - if a smaller team gets a home draw, they can offer to sell that to the bigger club. Means clubs get the decision every time and smaller clubs still get the financial boost of a home draw

[@NarinderjitSenth]

What a great debate. Hope the owners listen to this and what loyal supporters think about owners and how they exploit fans

[@mattparkinson8471]

I feel this format is missing some lower league voices. Scholes is trying his best but not all the EFL teams have the backing of the class of 92. Otherwise this is a great watch.

[@mightysoc]

brilliant debate, highly respected opinions from proper fans!! AMF!!

[@neilrobinson02]

You're not a supporter anymore, you're a customer.

[@LighthouseJaye]

47:48 They Consult like this in Cricket and I personally love that aspect. As a player/manager being able to have actual decision making power in real time.

[@darrenwoolley8433]

It's good to hear from Kieran Maguire great watch.

[@playlist9980]

Thank you. It's a Nolex. You can hardly tell the difference if you don't look hard.

[@Jannetts_]

Villa charge 95 quid for UCL and 72 quid for the brighton fixture recently. the cost of loyalty there is INSANE

[@phiIip488]

Just don’t pay it then

[@jackyarnell4707]

For such a small club that’s surprising.

[@Justmemes551]

@phiIip488 wdym don’t pay it? Fans in general are the lifeblood of any club, so if they don’t pay it they don’t come, so what, do u want a stadium of speakers to build up the atmosphere rather than fans just like in 2020💀?! These owners should be doing a lot better than that to reduce the price

[@phiIip488]

@@Justmemes551just don’t pay it, protest if you don’t like it

[@Justmemes551]

@phiIip488Tbf on going protests should be the solution, coz u don’t wanna exploit the sake of our clubs to thus belittle the fans itselves, it is just wild

[@alingard1]

Maguire (excellent!) made the point that : People's incomes doubled Football income 30x pre EPL Football transfers 40x pre EPL Players wages 42x pre EPL So. Look at that and you see where the problems are and there's your solution. The players transfers and wages simply can not continue going up. It's mental .

[@john70hayden]

Ps What a great insight into the financial world of football... Love it when you guys bring people like Mr Finance..!!

[@Joker66623]

£264 for a family of 4 to watch Manchester United vs. Southampton in the North Stand tier 3. £66 a ticket for any seat and any age.

[@SkyThrive]

Adam’s point about the price to PLAY football is bang on. Lack of affordable spaces will lead to a decline in homegrown talent

[@thenegotiator1630]

get alfie from hitc sevens here.

[@dennisosborne4368]

One of the most interesting ones of these I have seen

[@ollypatrick4835]

This is what football is and what football means. Everyone here has the utmost empathy and sings from the same hymn sheet. From a financial expert to ex-pros and fans with a media platform. Regardless of our rivalries and tribalism, we can always come together.

[@realitysosubtle2746]

True! Need to come together and BOYCOTT games until change happens!

[@LyndonDykes64]

Cheers Olly. Me nan’s crying reading that.

[@ollypatrick4835]

@@LyndonDykes64 As soft as you wanna call it unfortunately that's what separates us vs the owners trynna fleece us etc

[@andypalin3287]

I remember the Leeds, Colchester tie ...brilliant stuff! 😀

[@livinginafantasyworld5164]

Ultimately it’s the player wages that are obscene. If prem league players took a 50% pay cut they would still be very well off and tickets could be the similarly priced to in Germany. Taking loyal match going fans for granted and focusing on tourists will ultimately lead to the demise of the premier league as atmosphere will diminish and people will be priced out and just watch from the sofa

[@yanited1892]

Nieve Petruzziello was bang on about ticket prices rising for the richer to be still capable of buying them and pricing out the locals.

[@14dollars]

Can we have a new rule - Rory only speaks when asked.

[@matthewjamison]

We can only dream 😂

[@sainsburmcmanus]

and let’s hope he’s never asked

[@EmArgh]

And Adam. Dude doesn't stop chiming in and chirping up

[@JakB1]

Why all the hate on Rory?

[@Ryan-ys2bq]

I'm only 20 odd mins in, he spoke once and it was a very good point

[@tommacdonald1989]

Well in Gareth. Keep going!

[@elladesigns9609]

When I was in primary school about 10 of us won three tickets each to go and see Chelsea play a match. I think things like that where the clubs support local schools will pay off but most clubs are too short sighted to realise that.

[@MotoPhill]

Absolutely 1st class as always , been working away this week so will catch up on vids I missed , you reel them in so calmly and professionally keep up the fantastic work , can’t wait to see part 2 , the note pad must come out again soon , they were very excited were you ? 😂 ❤

[@Psychedelic-Peter]

The white elephant in the room: Players wages.

[@weekendwarriorprospecting817]

I know. Sam Longson would be pulling his hair out. 😂 "£300 a week!! You can't pay a footballer that."

[@stephenrowley6360]

The Coates family at Stoke have been incredible for Stoke fans , season ticket prices frozen for the last 17 years, free away travel ,

[@SamboXIV]

Football left the working class when the Premier League was created.

[@Fonso369]

more of football finance and Kieran, brilliant ep

[@conorcahill5422]

Well, there you have it. All of these losses the 19/20 clubs are experiencing come from the RIDICULOUS figures players are now getting on a weekly basis in clubs all around the country. To think a player like Marcus Rashford is on 350k a week, and he hasn't exactly broken many records in his 7-8 years at Man United speaks volumes. Players across the world only come to the PL purely because they expect to make big figures, otherwise they'd stay either in the previous league they were playing in, or make the move to their home country and play in those leagues domestically.

[@spinningowl9510]

Don't forget Jack Grealish too who's has broken a record for being the most expensive British player at the time and hasn't contributed to a goal in a calendar year!!!

[@pratosaurusrex1128]

There are some clubs that (comparatively) have been more responsible. Liverpool are well known for their tight wage structure. If you take out Salah, VVD and Trent their highest earners are on £150k a week. Given the climate that’s not bad for a team challenging for league titles and champions leagues each year. Tottenham also have a reasonable wage structure for a ‘big 6’ club too. Man Utd, Man City and Arsenal have particularly high wage bills.

[@pfella1878]

Yet it's only everton fc they go after

[@MadFunReactions]

I'm glad this discussion is gaining momentum. I did a short about this issue a few weeks ago, and I agree it's definitely an issue!

[@christianmesserschmidt1021]

I'd say, give 20% of tickets to tourists for at way high price, and then 80% of tickets to the local, cultural fans for a low price.

[@matthewsmith8727]

20% is way to high

[@Xyzfob463]

lol then you will complain that uk economy doesn’t create enough jobs

[@peterharridge8565]

Hold on whose a tourist. And how do I qualify? If for example can't get a ticket because non member. For me no tourists at Premier league clubs as there are no tickets for non members unless the Cup. I will say this only once, there are no spare tickets. You only give to 80%, at the moment it's 100%. or if not certainly 95% because of some rogue sites offering tickets at high prices. So that's less supporters going.

[@Ben-de3hr]

Great upload 👍🏾 very insightful

[@TheBurdenOfHope]

I didn’t hear once about the ills of capitalism or a forgotten class consciousness. We need to wake up. Our game is being eroded beneath our feet. We all see the problems and the answers almost exclusively boil down to profits for shareholders. These people simply don’t care about the game - they care about the bottom line.

[@lab7974]

That was the best show yet,Enjoyed it 💯👍

[@an-gw8nx]

The one thing Scottish football does well is giving tickets to schools in disadvantaged areas, my friend is a teacher and Celtic give tickets to several games every year and plenty of other teams do family days with tickets cheap as chips and this obviously works in encouraging people to then buy tickets as they get a little older as Scottish football is the best supported in Europe per capita which is not bad for a wee country.

[@mattk5020]

Really enjoyed this guys, Please invite Lee Judges and Robbie Lyle from ARSENAL FAN'S TV on the show. They are great guys and I think the fans would love to see it. Cheers 🥂

[@Sean-wu8qf]

Instead of 5th place getting that UCL spot, it should go to the FA Cup winner. Would make it unbelievable to watch

[@chrishallammusic]

They get a place in the Europa league, if they haven't already qualified for the UCL. That's why Man Utd are in the Europa league this season despite finishing 8th last season. Although UCL would be more interesting.

[@KieranMowatt]

That’s because you’re league is high on the coefficient list the higher you are the more teams qualify for European competitions

[@chrishallammusic]

@@KieranMowatt true but not in this case. Newcastle came 7th and didn't qualify for Europe.

[@forza1248]

I don’t think this is a good idea, qualifying for the Champions League for winning 6 games is bonkers

[@taliamason7986]

5th place doesn't get the UCL spot unless that club has a good enough coefficient. So if Man City missed the top 5 and either Forrest or Newcastle ended up finishing 5th, they would miss out because their coefficient is way too low in comparison to the top 5 of La Liga and Serie A as of right now.

[@AndrewTunnicliffe-vs7lp]

The Fa Cup games have been devalued over the years by the bigger clubs in the Prem league. It all started by Wenger at Arsenal because of the European games.

[@jakehowie442]

If the Premier League and UEFA capped players salaries to 80k a week and got rid of transfer fees, scummy club owners would have less reason to rinse loyal local fans!!

[@aidothe2nd]

I can't believe no one has talked about standing in stadiums. I would have thought owners would be pushing it to get more people in which could reduce ticket prices generally. It might not fix the cost problem long term as prices will eventually go up but I'm sure standing in stadiums can be made safe across the board

[@alfredthegreat9543]

Ref Ticket prices- The only thing that will work is government legislation that protects the fans. It would actually help the clubs because their biggest cost is salaries- and if ticket prices are regulated players salaries cant be so big- and with everyone in the same boat there would be no real loss. At the same time, if an owner moves a club more than, say 10 miles, they lose all rights to the name of the club- this is to head off any future idea of franchises. Also, fans need a scheme where every club has at least 5% owned by fans, but over the years this slowly increases. Clubs belong to their local fans, owners are only caretakers.

[@BT_____]

We need these more regularly 👌🏻

[@Vegvibe]

In Germany they have the 50+1 rule, that basically means that the club members (fans) of every club in Germany own 51% of the club they support. That is most probably why their tickets are so cheap compared to the UK.

[@duggs4456]

It does take a bit out of the parts that are quick changing when it's recorded so far in advance. Everton were bought and the loans taken care of ages ago now

[@delboy013]

Nobody cares about Everton though so it doesn't really matter.

[@indexpictures]

we heard "everton cleared all their debt" a decade ago & you've been broke since

[@Jess-v5c]

Real fans do ​@delboy013 you don't just love a club when they're winning and top of the league

[@rossharte]

Fair play for giving fans this platform to highlight the ticket prices

[@jisun461]

When Specs said Rory you choose Chelsea as an 7 year old. When in reality he switched from Man Utd to Chelsea around 2004

[@ryananderson6614]

I used to go old trafford from around 8 years old , my dad used to just buy the season ticket off the guy next to him , they have made it auch a farce now

[@rickycurran6409]

“Football without the fans is nothing” Jock Stein .. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@manyu9]

Gareth Roberts is my speaker!

[@jamesmurray2319]

At my team, Nottingham Forest when I was a kid, you were given a free ticket on your seventh birthday with one adult ticket for a parent to take you, both free of charge. We also used to have ‘kids for a quid’ schemes which allowed kids to attend the game for just £1. Neither of these things have existed for the last five plus years

[@graemenawn]

Nobody is forcing you to buy the 3rd strip, walk out top or even the home kit. Stop buying and your clubs will need to react

[@rob16495]

I've been on the Man United season ticket waiting list for nearly 20 years and im about at the point i don't even want it anymore under this ownership

[@Al_o_bri]

Adam spot on about United owners

[@garrywright1543]

Paul Scholes speaks his mind and I love that I feel sorry for the fans 😊😊😊