Who Has Been The Biggest Disappointment & Most Pleasant Surprise For The Cardinals?

The boys of Hot Take Central on 590 The Fan KFNS (Cam Janssen, Jim "The Cat" Hayes, Cole Bartemes and Brenden Schaeffer) discuss the Cardinals on the show on Friday, May 17, 2024.
Who has been the biggest disappointment for the Cardinals so far in 2024? What about a positive, a pleasant surprise for the club? The guys give their answers to both questions and also discuss hypothetical trade concepts involving Ryan Helsley and... Jackson Holliday??? (Remain calm everyone, just having some fun!)
Also this question.... who would be the better MLB manager someday: Yadi or Albert?
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[@ilearnedsomethingnewtoday6193]

Taps fingers waiting for today's(Wednesdays) podcast. Such an exciting time today

[@bschaeffer12]

It'll be a live stream at 10:15 central!

[@KevinWM2]

Interesting time to ask this question. I had a very long list of disappointing players about a week and a half ago. Honestly, most of the team has been far less disappointing recently. I feel like we're on the upswing and our guys still have time to put reasonable numbers up for themselves and hopefully win many games for the team.

[@bschaeffer12]

In fairness it was aired Friday originally

[@chrisweidner4768]

Watching King and Leahy shove and Donnie with the bases clearing double and then scoring on an error. Followed by Masyn’s HR. Baseball can be such fun. Remember this? Go Cardinals.

[@MGillDesign]

Biggest disappointment is Lars Nootbaar getting ejected in the first inning, of an important series against a top tier team (Orioles)... What was he thinking? It would be one thing if he got himself ejected late in the game (after 3-4 at bats). I guess he figures if i can't get injured (like usual)... i'll just get ejected from games, so i can miss time. Ok, i realize this wasn't a real answer... so my yearly disappointment is Gorman and surprise is Alec Burleson (because he lost weight, improved his defense, and is hitting .300)

[@bschaeffer12]

I'd need to see better what exactly happened. Umpire should have way more restraint than that.

[@Austin_Dale]

Hot Take Central is brazy

[@bschaeffer12]

Haha uhhh sure?!🤣

[@Austin_Dale]

@@bschaeffer12 Title should’ve been “Who Has Been The Biggest Disappointment & Scottie Scheffler gang signs?” 😂

[@bschaeffer12]

@@Austin_Dale bro I kinda forgot the Scottie stuff was in there 🤣

[@Austin_Dale]

@@bschaeffer12 No way HAHAHA

[@bn2870]

Really good mix with you and Cat. Love it. Good chemistry all around.

[@bschaeffer12]

I could talk baseball with the cat all day. I really could. Love hopping on Fridays with those guys.

[@KevinWM2]

I think it was The Cat who put forth a notion that I've been thinking about ever since the beginning of last year: When Walker came up the first time, consistency was his trademark with hitting streaks and such plus some power often enough to tantalize the FO into wanting to tap into it immediately so they sent him down, threw a new position at him too, and apparently they expected him to come back as Hank Aaron. Ironically, I think he might still be a consistent hitter in a power hitter's body. Is it possible that something about Walker's natural ability may just be to get hits and not necessarily the large amount of HRs the Cardinals are expecting out of him? After all, people are incorrectly evaluated all of the time. I wouldn't mind a Jordan Walker who hit .300 and was dependable. I'm worried that they're going to ruin him.

[@bschaeffer12]

I think you're right and then add the caveat that guys occasionally grow into power. He's 21! Turns 22 tomorrow I think.

[@KevinWM2]

@@bschaeffer12 Exactly. That was what I was thinking last year and ever since. I figured that he would get his hits as he often was in the beginning and I loved to see the power, but I figured that would naturally develop into a real force over time--much like they're letting Winn attack his own development. The difference is that Winn excels at what he's expected to so they leave him alone. We saw what Walker naturally is with room to grow. I don't know why the team won't consider that he's less Jack Clark and more Terry Pendleton at the plate...and that's a good thing.

[@JaredJCTN]

Winn for rookie of the year.

[@icaleinns6233]

Wow, this is a pretty ancient clip. But I like it anyway. 😁

[@bschaeffer12]

Lmao ancient? It's from Friday, four days old, you'll be okay!😀

[@icaleinns6233]

@@bschaeffer12 In the world of here and now sports, it's ANCIENT! 🤣

[@chrisweidner4768]

@@bschaeffer12🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣”you’ll be ok.” ☝️☝️💯I like your humor.

[@chrisweidner4768]

Masyn and Helsley for Holiday?? I like the kid, but oh helllll no.

[@bschaeffer12]

Hey that's what I said too

[@trevormeeks4712]

Goldy for sure for me. With nado coming in a strong second. I’ve seen this coming with Gorman he Strikes out way too much. Winn has been great as well as burly.

[@robertadams6606]

Wynn is the biggest surprise so far but his best potential is in Leadoff spot, not 8th.

[@Wobu27]

Gorman literally won the 2nd game in this series against the O's. He was all the offense; he leads the team in HR's with 8. Yah lets trade a 24 with a potential 40+HR for years and years to come for a pitcher who will probably flop. Yah you guys really know baseball.....geeesh

[@bschaeffer12]

This was recorded Friday and posted long before today's games. Get a brain.

[@tonycomer1415]

GOLDY or Gorman

[@bschaeffer12]

I answered one of those two names

[@larry690]

GORMAN AS HE IS A K machine.

[@jmattgill]

Gorman def.

[@ryangraves5569]

Helsley and Gorman for Holliday.

[@bschaeffer12]

Gorman may not carry much value

[@user-xr2ls9jw4f]

Need Mo to become the GM or POBO for Orioles first because he might make that deal. Actually, he might even trade Holliday for less.

[@andrewhoffman1087]

Gorman being profiled as a boom/bust player is one thing. I get most fans don't seem to care about batting average anymore, but I still do. If Gorman can hit around .240-.250 with 35 HRs, fine by me. What Gorman is currently doing? Unacceptable. FAR too many SOs and not enough "boom" for me.

[@bschaeffer12]

Still 7 HR but mostly empty calories without any underlying stats, average, doubles, ops slg etc

[@andrewhoffman1087]

@@bschaeffer12 Exactly. His defense is definitely better than Kyle Schwarber's, but when it comes to offense, Gorman's feeling like the low-fat, less "boom" version of the Phillies slugger.

[@georgesouthwick7000]

Before Gorman can hit .240, he needs to get to .200, something he hasn’t so far been able to do.

[@ACErob-me9ss]

Gorman disappointment Wynn has been awesome

[@Wobu27]

lmao what!

[@ACErob-me9ss]

@Wobu27 just what I said is the same as many others, so I'm not sure what u don't understand. And yes, I know Gorman had a pretty good day today, but it's about time

[@Wobu27]

@@ACErob-me9ss Wynn has 15-16 errors this year ALREADY. Gorman leads the team in HR's and literally won game 2 against the O's. But yah Gorman is the disappointment and not Nootbar, Carlson, Goldie and many others. Get out of here with that BS...

[@ACErob-me9ss]

@Wobu27 the whole team has played like shit so leading in hr don't mean shit and yes, Gorman has been a disappointment he strikes out more times, then he hits anything and like I said he had a good day today and it's about time.

[@Wobu27]

@@ACErob-me9ss Doesn't matter and they have won 7 of their last 9. Goldie, Nootbar have done FAR worse than Gorman. Gorman has fielded far better than Wynn in defense. Yet people like you come on here and say Gorman can't hit, Gorman can't play D. It gets old and tiresome watching people comment on a sport they clearly know nothing about.

[@Curiousmuffin64]

#Colesucks

[@bschaeffer12]

Not nice!

[@nickelliott1174]

Goldschmidt, Walker, Gorman, are the most disappointing with runner up in Arranado.

[@NIGHTCAP.sports]

Wynn best average on the team 🤘🤘

[@Wobu27]

and 15 errors