Who I Miss

If there's actually fallout among my old circles due to this video, so be it. I'm done with feeling like I need to apologize for not irrationally hating 50% of the human population.
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#oldfriends #movingon

[@omgomgomgd]

first. NO FUCKING WAY DONKEY KONG IS NOW A SJW AHJAHAHHAEHAEHHAEJAHEJHAJEHHEHEAHCOUGHEHAEHAHEHEHEHHEAHEHAHCHOKEHEAhehaheahHEAHEAHHEHHEHEHH that's a knee slapper right there.

[@ShortFatOtaku]

yes. feels bad man

[@ShortFatOtaku]

Well, I know who Zaver and Epic Skull Guy ended up being. But that's for another day, eh

[@rogercheetoofficial]

He fought against those choices as long as he could, turns out he didn't choose the tiny dick

[@hankhill7827]

Crazy I used to stream videogames on the same channel "Vidyavidya" back in the old days of Mogulus (now Livestream). I remember one of his streams being the game "Chulip" a sureal game which centers around adventure puzzle gaming to kiss people. He named his protagonist "Rapeman"

[@ShortFatOtaku]

OH YEAH, FUCKING VIDYAVIDYA. He did a LOT of politically incorrect shit on there too.

[@TheSteveTheDragon]

I miss the old days. Before the dark times. Before social justice.

[@hiramesensei3112]

Have you heard the tragedy of America-chan, the free?

[@littlemisseevee2309]

Steve The Dragon me too man

[@abbesieyesauralian7816]

But everything changed when my internet video game friends attacked.

[@TheSteveTheDragon]

@@hiramesensei3112 Oh, I know this story. It's sad but true...

[@MidlifeRenaissanceMan]

Abbesieyes Auralian for an old white cis guy, living out here in the Penal Colony, it’s been fun to watch from the sidelines, a bit like watching a train wreck in slow motion, and while it’s gets morbid and a little depressing seeing people so fucked up, it’s a good lesson for my young son, whom I am doing my best to teach him to learn from other people’s mistakes

[@lupusalbus3795]

"Why did you make us do this, we just wanted to play video games."

[@FourFourSeven]

Because, we wouldn't allow them to completely transform all gaming into a Marxist propaganda system, and nothing but.

[@Christian---]

Because all-encompassing ideologies are just that. All-encompassing.

[@MVPUnlucky]

This. We just wanted to play good games. They’ve turned us into this a long long time ago.

[@cperka1017]

One day I'll make a TED Talk about this meme, mark my words

[@Moridorable]

I'm making my own all-natural cordage for _the evening of cordage._

[@sequorroxx]

Honestly, I'm glad gamergate happened. If not for the blatant corruption and betrayal of gamers, a bunch of you would still be in this center-left establishment mindset. Better the temporary pain needed to break out than the slow descent into corruption and self-loathing that never feels too uncomfortable.

[@ShortFatOtaku]

I am still center-left. But a lot of my center-left friends have gone full SJW and demonized me as "alt-right" for not radicalizing along with them. That's what this is about - I miss my friends.

[@JakBed96]

Gamergate woke me up. So call it a success or failure but a side effect of it was to show me and others how willing the establishment and the bootlickers are to throw you away like trash if you don't sit down and do as you're told.

[@luisvelasquezjr]

SFO is most definitely a left leaning centrist. It's just that SJWs are so far left that it feels like the line has shifted, but it hasn't

[@orksy2935]

@@ShortFatOtaku I know what it's like when friends suddenly turn on you, at the same time you're/we're probably better for it that they left as their actions reveal that they weren't actually friends.

[@Angelofexecution]

I agree with you, I am glad GG happened. 'made me realize what feminism truly is, and what the left that I was considering myself on on the political scale actually thinks about video games. I moved from the left to center right because of it.

[@JazzJackrabbit]

I miss my brother. He used to be chill. Now he is a full-out SJW with Trump Derangement Syndrome.

[@ShortFatOtaku]

I miss jazz jackrabbit

[@MrNickPresley]

My brother and sister are the same way. My brother has called me both racist and sexist.

[@MajorZero61]

My entire family has basically fallen to TDS. They're all full-blown Russiagaters. It's sick, I used to always pity the people growing up in heavy right-wing familes, and they were gay or something and had to suffer them constantly bad-mouth Obama because they were birthers or something, and I was glad I never had to go through any of that. Now I'm in the mirror image of that, and I was just completely blind-sided by it.

[@carinadominguez22]

@@MajorZero61 That's right. Now you shall feel pain! Feel the pain!

[@tsin27]

Sick name

[@Don-ds3dy]

"I'll tell you about one person I didn't miss" -Lee Harvey Oswald

[@Mrcharrio]

Lee Harvey was Friend of mine. kzbin.info/www/bejne/omrNcnqqm85riZY

[@Medicesca]

Heh, it's just business... Mr President

[@Party_Almsivi]

“4chan was better when I used it, but I was a worse person” So a tripfag was an active detriment to the site? IMAGINE MY SHOCK

[@Party_Almsivi]

ShortFatOtaku I M A G I N E M Y S H O C K

[@obviouslykaleb7998]

They are speaking the language of the gods

[@mistery8363]

ah, 4chan,it's never been good, but it used to be better!

[@Party_Almsivi]

@@mistery8363 damn straight

[@journeytoform]

Gamergate is 5 Years this year. Time flies.

[@thebeststooge]

Yeah, and I wonder if Sarkeesian has gotten laid yet?

[@heretical_habits9512]

@Libertus Primus damn GG is so old Joe Biden wouldn't even harass it

[@woodwyrm]

@@heretical_habits9512 _lmao_

[@Hedberger91]

@The Best Stooge The better question is if her loverboy McIntosh has

[@anonamouse1957]

The Best Stooge il take one for the team boys... Il fuck sarkesian. Il tie a carrot to my knob I guess...

[@Lisa-pn3fm]

Y’know, people make fun of the “conservatism is the new counter culture” thing, but then I think about moments like the McElroy brothers having to applaud every time someone tells them their pronouns or sexual orientation at a live show, or Woolie on the Castle Super Beast podcast trying desperately not to say he disliked Captain Marvel, so as not to upset people... all I’m sayin is, MaYBe JuSt mAyBE-

[@EmergencyChannel]

Gavin McInnes is a unfunny hack, but he’s right about conservatives being the new punks. Sam Hyde is one of the funniest dudes alive and totally counter culture.

[@Xer0sama]

Conservatism IS the counterculture now. PJW was right, it just sounds silly coming out of his mouth, like most things.

[@MrLordmonty1]

Glad that you brought up Woolie tbh, I'm glad he is still friends with pat. But a better example would of been Matt and FUCKING LIAM who was, back in his prime on par with pat with his jokes. Ever since GG, they despise pat because his girlfriend is Paige and as well due to Pat's mostly Centre ideals and bants. Fuck, I just want them back.

[@Smoofyful]

@@MrLordmonty1 You can tell Woolie is just trying to avoid controversy but fortunatly Pat is here to force him to be himself. Like during the godhand playtrough when he had him slap a girl's ass and enjoyed it. I don't want to go into speculation territory but Liam and Matt do seem a little on that side. Having Paige doing jokes about punching pregnant women doesn't help. I hope their break up had nothing to do with that and it was just an elaborate april's fool.

[@planebreach]

I wouldn't say it is conservatism the new counter culture. More like anti-leftism.

[@TheKaisama]

Basically every content creator I followed before Gamergate started (minus a few smaller channels) has lost their minds these past 4 and a half years. I miss a lot them but the one that hit me the hardest was Lanipator. That dude was always so nice and understanding to everyone. Even after Trumps election he tried to put aside his disappointment and still be the same lovable goof he was to everyone. Needless to say, he was someone I held in high respects. Then the media smear job against the Covington kids happened and off he goes to join the hateful mob shitting on a group of kids. I suppose the old saying of 'never meet your heroes' still holds true.

[@lufalcon1240]

Same with takahata. Hé Went full on "nazi's everywhere!" mode.

[@lamename2010]

The thing is, that no matter how nice and normal these people were, you have to remember that the people they follow were already on the more radical side. And if they constantly hear about how everyone white is just one step away from being a full-on nazi, they might not believe it initially and consider it preposterous, but at some point they start thinking that all that smoke is a sign of a fire, instead of some asshole journalists trying to make more money from sensationellst lies, since the truth doesn't make them money. I think that if you could go into the past and show any of these people just how crazy radical they have become, they will be horrified.

[@shanearmstrong9861]

Probably has a lot to do with Scott. He's always been a little loony, the kind that thinks that "Milo is a Nazi" loony. I had a chat on Facebook with him once, and it seemed like there was some reason in there once I brought up the fact that Milo was just a self-serving dickhead. I still see glimpses of old Lani and Taka, their DBZ Kai 2.9 Episode was a great example, but they did get pretty cucked in the heyday.

[@lufalcon1240]

@@shanearmstrong9861 Yeah, Ive noticed that too. They "hate" their own jokes when others make em. Luckily it aint that prevelant in most of their content tho.

[@Xfushion2]

Little Kuriboh also became woke like TFS. But in their infinite hypocrisy despite them hating their old content they don't have the balls to delete it, because said content is the reason of why the gain notoriety/money in the first place.

[@SabreXT]

The angry internet reviewers that turned out to be SJWs/lolcows/whatever also happen to be the people who aren't acting as a character. eg. There's a difference between James Rolfe and AVGN, but Linkara is Linkara, Noah "Spoony" Antwiler is Noah "Spoony" Antwiler.

[@WWLinkMasterX]

The simple answer is that these people (and perhaps most people) are conviction-less trend followers. The style of the 90's and early 2000's was to be edgy and obscene. Hence the wave of edgelord musicians, gamers, animators, radio hosts, youtubers, etc. cursing every other word, using slurs like they were people's names, and mentioning any depraved sex act they could into the conversation. The fads changed and the people followed. The free speech advocates of today's internet are the ones who acted on principle, and stuck to said principles. These flip-floppers never had any.

[@headbangben1]

'just let me play my games in peace. not everything needs to be about politics.' -Nostalgic me, remembering the good times, like 5 years ago.

[@ShortFatOtaku]

;_; i try to avoid political talk when streaming videogames. it's my one escape.

[@oz_jones]

7. Gg started in 2012

[@AshersAesera]

It's neither being radicalized really, it's more that each person's values are actually tested versus what they say they value.

[@ShortFatOtaku]

oh ashers ;~;

[@MegaDeathRay10]

Go far left? Of cash you are bereft

[@ShortFatOtaku]

HAH

[@lupusalbus3795]

OVERSOCIALIZATION 24. Psychologists use the term “socialization” to designate the process by which children are trained to think and act as society demands. A person is said to be well socialized if he believes in and obeys the moral code of his society and fits in well as a functioning part of that society. It may seem senseless to say that many leftists are oversocialized, since the leftist is perceived as a rebel. Nevertheless, the position can be defended. Many leftists are not such rebels as they seem. 25. The moral code of our society is so demanding that no one can think, feel and act in a completely moral way. For example, we are not supposed to hate anyone, yet almost everyone hates somebody at some time or other, whether he admits it to himself or not. Some people are so highly socialized that the attempt to think, feel and act morally imposes a severe burden on them. In order to avoid feelings of guilt, they continually have to deceive themselves about their own motives and find moral explanations for feelings and actions that in reality have a non-moral origin. We use the term “oversocialized” to describe such people. [2] 26. Oversocialization can lead to low self-esteem, a sense of powerlessness, defeatism, guilt, etc. One of the most important means by which our society socializes children is by making them feel ashamed of behavior or speech that is contrary to society’s expectations. If this is overdone, or if a particular child is especially susceptible to such feelings, he ends by feeling ashamed of HIMSELF. Moreover the thought and the behavior of the oversocialized person are more restricted by society’s expectations than are those of the lightly socialized person. The majority of people engage in a significant amount of naughty behavior. They lie, they commit petty thefts, they break traffic laws, they goof off at work, they hate someone, they say spiteful things or they use some underhanded trick to get ahead of the other guy. The oversocialized person cannot do these things, or if he does do them he generates in himself a sense of shame and self-hatred. The oversocialized person cannot even experience, without guilt, thoughts or feelings that are contrary to the accepted morality; he cannot think “unclean” thoughts. And socialization is not just a matter of morality; we are socialized to conform to many norms of behavior that do not fall under the heading of morality. Thus the oversocialized person is kept on a psychological leash and spends his life running on rails that society has laid down for him. In many oversocialized people this results in a sense of constraint and powerlessness that can be a severe hardship. We suggest that oversocialization is among the more serious cruelties that human beings inflict on one another.

[@lupusalbus3795]

@MrECNN On Industrial Societies and Its Future.

[@lupusalbus3795]

@MrECNN I agree, we all need to chill out and take the Tedpill. Most of us just want to be left alone to do us.

[@Kesyabasturd]

@@lupusalbus3795 That sounds like something I experienced "On Industrial Societies and Its Future." ah that's the Unabomber's manifesto.

[@slashbash1347]

Funny, once Linkara's girlfriend-at-the-time, Iron Liz, got on Spoony for making a joke about trans people and Spoony got irritated at that. Now, Iron Liz is pretty based while Spoony is an SJW.

[@usocolo123]

I was a teen who had mildly Centre right values and a growing love for media before gamergate. I had some strong liberal teachers who I disagreed with but I still understood where they came from. Then it hit. My fellow gamer buddies divided because I liked to make fun of “woke” culture because it was funny and edgy. What we did together was now separated because I wasn’t going to tag along with things I disagreed with. I thought this was insane. Then I went to university. I had a third-year yell at me and slander me because I thought that Trump wasn’t the next Hitler. Seriously? I was terrified to then watch apolitical people become warped by regressive left teachings. People who I thought I could mildly disagree with and yet have positive friendships with demonized me for being critical of their “faultless” teachers. This happened within the first week of arriving. After that, I left. I couldn’t graduate in a place demanding I betray my values for a simple business degree. In that time, I discovered trade school and am about to leave with my year 1 certificate. I found more people like that but they were found in the video game developer/artist program. If gamergate never happened, I probably could have easily been one of them, sharing my love for video games, anime, and all things media. I would never have to explain to my now fiancée why I don’t trust major reviews on the games and shows I enjoy or look forward to. I would have been just another nerd, happy to spend time with strangers online getting into meme wars about episodes or game releases that we viewed differently. I probably would have found your gaming channel or your anime reviews before this. I miss those days even though I’m still relatively young.

[@ludicrous1337]

This makes me a wee bit scared of my future. I'm a bit younger than most other people here, I also happen to be a centrist and an edgy shit. One of my friends is an actual SJW, but we manage to stay friends because we don't hate each other over politics or make it our personality. This, this scares me. I don't wanna lose my friends because I think saying the gamer word doesn't make you Hitler and they think it does.

[@LewdConnoisseur]

This sounds like 1st world white people problems.

[@ludicrous1337]

@@LewdConnoisseur Because it is.

[@carsandsports123]

​@@ludicrous1337 Don't worry about college. Some Professors will try indoctrination but most won't and there are clubs for all sorts of people. If you seek out people woth share interest you'll find people you can be yourself around without fear of triggering someone

[@stevenschnepp576]

@@LTNetjak It's more than a bit different here. You're grossly underestimating the degree of radicalization going on in American academia, even four years ago.

[@rangerelivsoup1637]

This is such a good warning to those going to college, like me, who like it better to be apolitical. Thank you.

[@ShortFatOtaku]

you're welcome

[@shadowangel6359]

Always remember to hold the line, no matter how impossible it seems.

[@NotThatJonesShow]

@@shadowangel6359 ah a Salarian

[@HeavenHalos]

You're not a radical. You're a man that can think for himself and not just think what he is told to think.

[@n3rdst0rm]

The most dangerous type of man.

[@NZAnimeManga]

"We just wanted to play video games."

[@freedomgirl3590]

Idk SFO, I made my stand at my job since 2014 in Boston this past election and they are denying my unemployment after firing me. The struggle has never been more real.

[@ShortFatOtaku]

you can make it! the struggle is real, BUT SO ARE YOU

[@freedomgirl3590]

@@ShortFatOtaku thanks I know. its OK, I kind of hated it there actually. They run ads that if you want to fight climate change, you have to buy their soup!

[@ShortFatOtaku]

was it at least good soup?

[@freedomgirl3590]

@@ShortFatOtaku nah it was legit just sweet potatoes blended with 2 jars of chunky peanut butter. Shit was fucking disgusting

[@ShortFatOtaku]

what the fuck how is that soup

[@JoeyJ0J0]

I am honestly sick of everything I like being politicized and I am sick of seeing the culture war everywhere. I can't enjoy anything anymore . It's either far right or far left bs. I don't like either.bi just want to enjoy some escapism

[@ShortFatOtaku]

Yeah man. My streams get like 30 viewers but i put just as much effort into Game Boomers as I do this shit because I need a place to play videogames and chill with the community, I can't fucking deal with this constantly.

[@comradecthulhu6052]

Joey JoJo Same dude, I’m tired of it too.

[@HazzronIV]

If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything.

[@coco26006]

Dev's speel at the end made me chuckle because while I have avoided College Arts and Literature like the plague, in High school I did pass a Current World Problems course that I called propaganda class by quoting Liberty Prime with statements like "democracy is non-negotiable"

[@jamesallen5591]

Your path is similar to mine. I haven't changed; the world around me has changed.

[@MifuneTakumi45]

🤡🌎

[@TimeCircleBlue]

There’s a good description. I don’t feel like I’ve Changed that much these past few years, but I’m probably a bit y’all. 5 years ago I was finishing high school

[@Roofhack]

Soy is one hell of a drug.

[@AB0BA_69]

“Losing friends over politics”. Jokes in you, SFO, I didn’t have friends to begin with :(

[@crispychips7161]

I'll be your friend that radicalized into left wing thought.

[@AB0BA_69]

@@crispychips7161 Thanks, bro. And that works for me! Like, I am not out to change anyone's opinion by force of my will. Be as leftie as you want as long as we can watch anime/movies together in peace and leave politics behind every now and then

[@Kaucukovnik666]

I had a heated political debate with a very good friend of mine some time ago. It escalated into a rather deep personal cut in order to prove a point, regarding the opinion of two bums in a small european country about high politics on the opposite side of the world. In reality we know next to nothing about the topic, we have zero influence over it, but we considered our opinions on Trump vs Clinton so important we could have easily ended our decades long friendship right then and there. Luckily we realized the stupidity of our behavior instead.

[@untamedpandasweg8986]

I believe I was on the verge of becoming ideologically possessed. Then I took over a month long break from the internet to clear my mind of atrocities and now I don't think about horrible things while trying to go to sleep anymore.

[@holyordersol2668]

UntamedPandaSweg Oddly enough, I started on the left side of the fence, thanks to being exposed to a decent bit of feminism (to the point of self-loathing). I still enjoyed the non-PC humor of the early 2000s, but once the crap started hitting the fan (starting with the tiny bits here & there starting in 2012), I began realizing the sophistry of political correctness and eventually ended up towards in the center. Having a little bit of Buddhist influence in my teens put a sense of balance in me; and that has really went a long way in saving me from radicalizing. Thanks, Bill.

[@austin5362]

I remember losing a friend who wanted to start a non-profit maker studio I would drive 5 hour to help volentier while I was in the USMC, I keep politics out of my personal life but I posted a Trump demands you stand but Barrack only ask you to kneel ( 300 reference) meme that I thought was funny and she shut 100 % contact despite my free work and time. I'm far more closed off after this and have stopped volunteering for friends.

[@MrNickPresley]

There was a friend I made when I went to Job Corps. Dude was cool, we both liked Dungeons and Dragons, Star Wars, and the Monster Hunter series. We hit it off pretty well, and he became part of the group I'd play Vampire the masquerade with. Unfortunately, the guy had a serious smoking problem, and since Job Corps is more or less run with the same internal logistics of your average medium-security prison- down to the "economy"- he quickly racked up debt with just about everyone by constantly bumming cigs off people. So, two things happened regularly. One, he was always- *ALWAYS* - broke. We only got to go out and shop for more stuff (soap, shampoo, etc. Of course, snacks and cigs were the big ticket items, if you could get 'em in) once every other week or so, and he did not have the money to buy what he needed. Being the guy I am, I resolved to help him out. I'd buy extra razors and soap and shampoo, and let him have it free of charge. I'd buy him lunch sometimes, or share snacks (this was common practice at the gaming table. I'd bring sodas and stuff for everyone). I never once asked him to pay me back, or return the favor-- and he never did. The second thing was that he was in debt with so many people, and had racked up such profound amounts of debt that people were threatening violence against him. And again, being the guy I am, I bailed him out. I only did it once, and I explained that kind of stuff can't keep happening. He offered to pay me back for that, but in his usual fashion, did not. Anyway, this went on for a year and a half, roundabouts, before I completed the Job Corps program, and moved back home. I kept in contact with him, and the other members of my gaming group through Facebook (this was before Discord), and we'd meet up every friday-saturday for a session of DnD. For a while, things were okay. And then, it happened. He starts by telling me he found a boyfriend. Now, that by itself was not cause for alarm. But, him suddenly ducking out of sessions for at least two weeks at a time, was suspicious. I asked him about it, because him dipping out like that was holding up our sessions for everyone else, and he tells me he's just trying to get his life on track, find a job, spend time with the bf, etc. I tell him it's alright, just as long as he keeps me in the loop about being absent, and we go on. Then, he starts missing a lot more sessions. Most fridays, I can't get in touch with him at all. His boyfriend refuses to accept any friend requests, and will not respond to me, either. I worry, y'know, because I thought something bad had happened. But then, I see a post on my facebook wall one day. Apparently, he's cutting ties with his own mom over something she said. The post didn't specify what, and the original post was deleted, so, at the time, I had no idea why. And then I saw at least three more, one for his uncle, one for a cousin, and another for his dad. Same basic "I refuse to spend my time in the company of such intolerant people." message as with his mom. His uncle responded by telling him to remove the stick from his ass before the whole thing was deleted. And then the flood gates opened. He stopped showing up for DnD sessions at all, barely spoke to anyone in the gaming group, and every time I'd open facebook, it would be a wall full of posts by him on various antifa pages, to the effect of "Down with oppression!", or "Let's kill the nazis!" So, I asked him about it. He tells me that he's afraid that Trump is going to have all the gay/bi/trans/ alphabet soup group people rounded up and shot-- which I tell him is bogus, and he should know better. He says that he'd gladly die fighting the nazis, which I say is crazy. He tells me that I don't understand, and to fuck off. The weeks roll by, and it becomes apparent to me that he's spending huge chunks of his day, like 6-10 hours a day, if not more, posting communist propaganda, and signing up to just about any Antifa page you can think of. On the rare occasions that I did get to speak to him, he was becoming increasingly unpleasant to talk to. It was like I barely knew him anymore. Like he was someone else. But, I didn't press things. I was patient with him, because he clearly wasn't in a very stable mindset, with trying to find a job and all (y'know, when he wasn't busy posting on facebook for half the day). "It's stressful," I kept saying, "I'll just give him time, and he'll calm down." Needless to say, I kept saying that more for my own benefit than for his. But one day, I saw him talking shit to one of our mutual friends, and I jumped in. I told him that I had been watching this unfold for a while, and it needed to stop. I told him that wanting to be a martyr for fascists is just as bad as being a nazi, and he needs to lay off the people who care about him, and quit treating them like shit because they're worried about him and want to help him. He tells me "Horse shoe theory exists to protect nazis!", deletes the thread, and then goes silent for another few days. I come back, and he's removed himself from the gaming group, blocked not only me, but everyone else in it, and left me a message saying that "It's not that I'm not interested in playing DnD, it's just that I'm not interested in playing it with nazis and capitalist pigs-- like you." And after all the shit I'd done for him out of the goodness of my heart, after all the time spent hanging out at Job Corps, after me being nothing but a friend to him, the fact that he wanted to treat me like that. That he wanted to just toss me out like old trash. That, after all that, he had not even an ounce of loyalty, or concern for the people around him, that he'd gladly forsake them for politics. Well, let's just say I didn't take it well. I sent him an email telling him good riddance to bad trash, and that he was a shitty friend. He, again, called me a nazi, and a capitalist pig, and told me to "enjoy my privilege". I've never spoken to him since, and I often wonder what became of that chain-smoking, debt-ridden idiot. tl;dr: Social justice and far-left politics change people in the worst ways. And sometimes, no matter how good a friend you are, it'll take them away from you.

[@ghoulbuster1]

Based and Black Pilled

[@Sublimnalxx]

@@MrNickPresley I think it's interesting how much shit goes on around the world while you're stuck in the same monotonous grind for years at a time. Sucks ass that your relationship with your friend meant so little to him.

[@MrNickPresley]

@@Sublimnalxx It is what it is. He was always a pretty crappy friend, in retrospect. The politics just made him worse.

[@TheeFoolishNoob]

@@MrNickPresley That was depressing as shit. The more I read the more my mood fell. It's just sad to see people slowly fall to this paranoia and victimhood. But then again, like you said, maybe he was already that kind of person. And these ideas just brought out these traits in him....

[@ParrotMan01276]

Well said. Jordan Peterson mentioned something about being possessed by your own ideology to the point where you lose your personality or your own code of ethics or upbringing. It's like losing your controller and becoming an NPC. There, I said it. Gamergate wasn't what made me realize that gaming media was stupid and corrupt. Oddly enough, the coverage of DmC Devil May Cry was. For my friend, it was the coverage of Mass Effect 3 and the ending. What started to get me more and more "political" was the sheer amount of times I or my fellow gamers were called racist and sexist for having a different opinion. It's come to a point that I find myself identifying more with a political party that I used to make jokes about...and damn proud of it. The more you try to force something or someone to go one direction, the more likely they'll go the other way.

[@RedFenceAnime]

I thought it was me radicalizing rightward. Then I took the same couple of test I took in 2012 again in 2017 and they barely moved. Except for the meme test were I went into the edgy/dank block.

[@LoneSwordsmanTheory]

This hit close to home. I've lost several friends over minor political differences when our friendship was never focused on politics.

[@IceQueen975]

3 years after this video, after discovering your channel, I kinda needed this. Lost a dear friend to TDS this year. She was always liberal but I never had an issue with that. She was there when my ex broke up with me, was my biggest cheerleader for projects I am working on, comforted me... yeah. Seeing her devolve since lockdowns in 2020 has been painful.

[@theALTF4]

kuddos to you, stranger! and i hope you can find a real friend now that the lockdown is over... just, imagine her as an hipotetical ex that used to be desirable until she developed into the monster that make you broke with her. people change, and not always for the better

[@lugbzurg8987]

Perhaps the earliest memory I have with encountering these types of people was way back in 2009, five years before GamerGate. (The term "Social Justice Warrior" didn't even exist yet, did it?) Back then, I was making a Sonic fancomic called "Sonic Future" that was hosted on a website called "Smack Jeeves", which was supposed to be about the next generation, focusing on the potential kids of iconic Sonic characters several years in the future. So, long story short, when I got the the seventh arc, this crazy flame war sprang up ignited with seemingly no provocation by a user called "RenTech" (this was also before the site implemented the ability to block specific users from commenting, which came right at the tail end of this, and the head admin was in fact aware of this flame war... long story... so I can't help but wonder if this was the tipping point for getting the feature implemented...), who banded together several users who had *never* posted in the comments section at any point before, started posting constant hateful comments. There were dozens... sometimes over a hundred... on every single page for a good, long while. Personal attacks, people rallying others to figure out my password (which I have changed a few times) so they could hack and delete my account one day... you name it. But, more to the point, one of their favorite and most baffling attacks against me was their constant claims that I was racist. They also kept claiming I was sexist and homophobic, but as far as I can remember, they never gave any kind of reason for insisting this. But the racism claim? This was the claim they had... something resembling an excuse for. It makes no sense, but here we go. The "evidence" these "SJW precursors" had to "prove" that I was "racist" was that my Sonic fan characters didn't have dark mussels. *Yes.* Specifically, they tried to point to my "Son of Sonic the Hedgehog" character, Indigo the Hedgehog (who had this ironic running gag about being pathologically terrified of loop-de-loops, having been traumatized by attempting to run through one and failing hard early on in the comic...) And because I didn't make genetics bend over backwards, that was their "proof" that I was somehow racist. It. Made. No. Sense. None of these anthropomorphic animal characters were deemed "black enough" for them, so they doubled down on trying to use that to paint me as racist. It was just so bafflingly-idiotic and based in no logical sense, that I was just at a loss for words on how to even refute it. Of course, these people largely took care of the problem themselves eventually, when most of them collectively decided that, since constantly yelling at me and trying to figure out my password wasn't getting me out of the webcomic scene, they somehow believed that the best course of action was to go to the comics of *the head admin himself* and start throwing flame wars in his comments sections; making nonsensical personal attacks against him. Surprising nobody but themselves, Admin started banning them from the site, and those who hadn't been hit, or had sockpuppet accounts, kept screaming and screeching and trying to blame it all on me, but I had all but broken out the popcorn at that point, as I got to enjoy the satisfaction of watching about 95% or so of these people dig their own graves into their comeuppance, while I didn't even have to lift a finger. So, the nonsensical chaos had a nonsensical (but still extremely satisfying) conclusion. I had never been involved in such a controversy or been "internet famous" at the time, and it was about a year into me using The Internet as a public social space, rather than just sending E-Mails to relatives and playing flash games like Teen Titans Battle Blitz and Ultimate Sonic Flash, so it was a very life-changing and eye-opening experience for me. My one regret is that I deleted most of the comments they left after a time, as I wanted to keep everything about the comic family-friendly, but now I wish I had kept them up for archival purposes. I've toughened up a LOT more of a backbone since 2009. In the aftermath, and to this day, there was only ever really one single person who ever came back and apologized to me in a message for his actions, and I un-blocked him on the spot. Seems he had changed just as much as I have. I wish him well.

[@SwiftSwrd]

I lost my two closest friends coming out of university. One to TDS, the other because I refused to agree with him on a topic he refused to stop bringing up every time he saw me. It wasn't political but I'd say it was the same mindset. It's awful, and I wish I could fix it somehow but all I think I can do is try to not become that myself.

[@gamingguru2k6]

In college I often wrote papers arguing against the "lessons" being taught in my classes. I was also a bit diruptive arguing against lectures pushing communism.

[@CountArtha]

You'll sleep better for it.

[@fz7788]

My economics sir is a hard capitalist I love him

[@carsandsports123]

​@@fz7788 Funny enough my economic teachers were all based as well.

[@DM-pu5yu]

It’s interesting how they always mention the 8chan CP stuff, while having no issue what so ever with Tumblr and it’s CP issues

[@dik4316]

I mean, that's great and all, but really, the most important thing is this: whom*

[@ShortFatOtaku]

OH FUCK ME

[@ghoulbuster1]

Whom'st've?

[@LivTheCyberdhole]

Some of the people I originally talked to regarding KZbin stuff have outright quit due to PC shit going down, and as a result, it's caused the smaller youtube communities to be a LOT more predatory. Just about anyone you contact will be extremely cagey, and really only come to you if you can do something for them, with no interest in making friends, just in case you get caught doing some dirt down the line. Even the language is policed to the extreme on some of the youtuber discords I'm in, leading to nobody having a real conversation that's not the 'smiling with gritted teeth in fear the hammer will come down on you' shit that doesn't really go anywhere. It's made networking a goddamn nightmare.

[@KevinKess]

Strangely enough, what you've described on other sites beyond KZbin. Heck, what you just said is spilling into more professional, business-oriented circles like the animation industry, the voice acting industry, and the video game industry... and possibly even further than that. In fact, it's even infecting sites like those dedicated to writing, illustrating and roleplay. I can't tell you how many times I've ran into (and still run into) the people you've mentioned: (I,e. "Just about anyone you contact will be extremely cagey, and really only come to you if you can do something for them, with no interest in making friends, just in case you get caught doing some dirt down the line. Even the language is policed to the extreme on some of the youtuber discords I'm in, leading to nobody having a real conversation that's not the 'smiling with gritted teeth in fear the hammer will come down on you' shit that doesn't really go anywhere. It's made networking a goddamn nightmare.") By the way... if I may ask, what sort of KZbinr Discord servers were / are you in?

[@iowanimperium7258]

For my far left papers I have had to write in my college classes I have tried to subtlety undermine their own arguments and promote mine

[@NightTimeDay]

What are you taking?

[@iowanimperium7258]

@@NightTimeDay I was taking Social Problems and my instructor was suggesting that reparations is a solution for past racism and she is a firm believer in whatever fauci and democrats say about covid (Basically she thinks blue, good red bad)

[@NightTimeDay]

@@iowanimperium7258 lol I'm in psychology and it's the same for us. I feel for you.

[@davidtarushka9749]

I wrote "the paper" once or twice. But I *never* shut up during class. They don't grade you on participation. And I got to say what I really thought to their faces. I'm a lot quieter, now. Unless they ask my opinion. I can listen quietly, but I cannot lie.

[@_Devil]

I don't miss them at all. The friends who I lost due to radicalizing, they did that to themselves. They chose to become Communist Leftists. While it IS true that I have become more Rightwing over the past couple years, I have purposely countered that by dabbling into some Leftiwng policies too. And because of that, I consider myself to be Economically Liberal but Socially Conservative. I believe in free speech, free markets, and private property, but I also believe in stick to tradition and respect the culture you came from, and not betraying basic requests from your parents to continue the family line. But because the Overton window has shifted so far left, I am considered a "Nazi" just because I'm not a Communist. I broke up with my last gf in May of 2020 because SHE radicalized into a Communist, and guess what? I do not miss her at all, and I don't regret what I did. She did that on her own, and while I probably could've done more to stop it, it was entirely her fault. She did that to herself, and the other friends I lost did it to themselves as well. I do not feel bad for educating myself on politics and I will never "run back" to those people and beg them to come back into my life. I have new friends, better friends, and I wouldn't trade them for the world

[@kurosan0079]

Man, I remember when KZbin was edgy and offensive. I miss those days. The days where not everything on the internet was taken seriously.

[@tomleary508]

Yeah I'm four years after the fact, but yes I was one of those people unwilling to voice my actual beliefs in college. I'm not proud of it. I got through it by reenforcing my convictions and to be frank spite at the people who made that environment where I felt I could not speak my mind.

[@kylelacey1212]

I uh, I did indeed lose some friends during the election, but my enlightening came shortly before that. Or rather, the start of it began about 2011, when my fiance broke up with me. I had co-created a forum of edgelords (that used Che Guevarra as a mascot and back in 2006 I didn't think much of it) in the mid-2000s and we were Nintendo fans. In fact we spun off of Nintendo's forum back in the day (RIP). I was one of the prime contributing members outside of co-founding it and was exalted in my position throughout our small community. Everyone loved me, for the most part. Then the breakup happened and lies began spreading very very fast. As the man of the relationship, I was blamed for it's downfall and my name was drug through the mud as a bit of "revenge" I guess for how horrible I person I allegedly was. The divide in our community over who supported me to who supported her was less a divide and more of a 90/10 split. Those that stuck by my side waned in their support of me over time anyway, and my Facebook friends dropped from 140 some people to 72. It would take until the Trump campaign in 2015-2016 that this community stopped putting up with my "bullshit opinions" as they slipped further and further left (a fact I should have seen coming at the start of this all because our mascot was a literal communist) and I was subsequently exiled. Not banned, but I don't return because I have nothing but enemies there now. In hindsight it was probably the best thing to happen to me this decade. I was so depressed getting reamed out by people I used to trust and care about. In fact, I invited them all to the wedding I had planned with my aforementioned fiance, I trusted and loved them that much. It was painful to realize everything you thought you knew about your friends was a lie and they never really liked you to begin with. To say I miss them isn't entirely accurate, as they really didn't change much. The situation changed and I lost my usefulness and therefore their respect. Nowadays I hang out with the same five-six people who aren't so much ideologically similar to me, but that politics don't even enter the fray. When a discussion does arise and we disagree, it's never to the point where our friendship is hanging in the balance. I mean, why would it be? Why would an actual friend disavow you because you hold different opinions? Simple, they wouldn't. They aren't SJWs and we do share a mutual disgust for that type of person, but a few of them are further left than myself and thats okay. All in all, I regret nothing and am better off where I am now than in that cesspool of filth I once called a home.

[@EstevanValladares]

It is funny how people criticizing the left often forget that the aim of companies is make money, and if they saw being right wing would be the way to make money, they would. The problem is: If there were such thing as left and right wing politics, it would seem the same left position looks more and more radical as much as you lean to the right, and vice-versa. Unfortunately, right and left wing is a oversimplification, barely a lie. From long time political science makes distinction into 3 vectors of political views that shows a person in left or right "equal position" actually may be of radically distinct positions in regards of reality of things. That is why thing got the way they got in the West. People simply consider other people with almost the same views opposition based on 1 or 2 positions, among 100s of issues. Corporate just joined in on the crazy.

[@Andyilmatto]

I just wanted to enjoy my videogames. But now eveything is political. I just wanted to date women. But now everything is political. I just wanted to eat my spaghetti. But now everything is political. I guess all is left to do for me is to try to have a DMT trip and hope that not everything is political there too.

[@monolith94]

For me, there’s church. It keeps me going. It’s where I can most be myself

[@jackobrien47]

This is why about the only gaming related thing I still like is to go back and listen to Yahtzee's old podcast "Let's drown out", even as many of the episodes are over 7 years old. They come from a simpler time before TDS, when game critics were allowed to be fun normal people. He and his friend Gabe even go on a few rants about gamergate and sjws which would probably get any modern journo fired and excommunicated. But on the whole they're just fun lets plays without all the crazy tension in the air around games that you have now. I eventually had to abandon my other favorite, Jim Sterling. He was always a progressive but he just became completely insufferable. His old lets plays of shitty steam games used to be one of favorite past times but now I can't bear watching him whine about capitalism forever.

[@DaedalEVE]

I used to staff anime cons, was a video editor, and a part of the BDSM/Kink community. Almost everyone I know has gone to the dark side that is the regressive left. I even argue with my own mom over Trump.

[@3To3dSl0th]

Which cons did you staff? I'm hoping none in my area. xD

[@HarveyDangerLurker]

Why would you be open about your degenerate behavior? This is what is wrong with our culture.

[@CptManboobs]

Hey my insult got in the video!

[@ShortFatOtaku]

:D

[@YeRetroTavern]

I always thought I remembered you from the old TGWTG forums. But yeah, I know about this getting unfriended crap. I ran a site called Reviewers Unknown, a good number of former members stopped talking to me over my opinions and that was before the election.

[@ShortFatOtaku]

I vaguely recall "reviewers unknown" in fact! TGWTG actually accepted my 2015 application consisting of an Attack On Titan review, but I decided not to join. Fuck 'em.

[@TheSaival]

The main point of the video has real scientific backing (if you treat psychology as science, which you should) - the effect of believing what you were forced to say is called "cognitive dissonance". Basically its a form of subconscious rationalization of what someone did, like "If I wrote that, then its not so bad, because im not a bad person" Its really well documented and has been shown to change people opinions and beliefs (although on smaller matters). It also applies to other behaviours - Pay someone to eat something he doesnt like and some time later he may think it wasnt so bad. Because who would eat something disgusting for 10$? Not me, Im not cheap, it wasnt THAT bad!

[@buzzwordbuzzwordsloganrhym671]

I think you answered your own question about angry reviewers. To paraphrase "How can they be SJWs when they built their careers off of being irrationally angry at games and movies"... That... Sounds like gamer gate. It's weird and stupid, but lets be real, SJWs get to irrantionally and angrily rant about everything, with the benefit of self rightous conviction. Maybe there is more overlap than we initially thought.

[@AquaStockYT]

The same year this video came out I actually had an aunt who finally reopened up. She's actually bounced a lot back from that shit in a really healthy way and I'm really proud of her.

[@pyxylation]

Do you know what caused her to bounce back?

[@AquaStockYT]

@@pyxylation because she gave it a second thought. Did inference, it takes a level of self awareness and not all of us are able to do that. It really keeps me going knowing there's one good one on my team.

[@pyxylation]

@@AquaStockYT Happy to hear about that! Always good to see people trying to be a little more reasonable.

[@freaskydoodle999]

My own mother went from a very peaceful woman who helped and supported me when I was against the radical anti video game right of yesteryear but now she went from promoting peace and non violence to promoting violence against trump and vile msm hatred

[@MahDryBread]

I'm both happy to hear I'm not the only one this has happened to, and sad. It's nice knowing I'm not alone in losing a few friends over not complaining 24/7 about Trump with them, but losing friends really does hurt.

[@ShortFatOtaku]

aaaaaaaaaa i had a PRETTY GOOD FEELING you'd show up in these comments eventually. I love you m8

[@MahDryBread]

@@ShortFatOtaku I've already "RUNG THAT SUBSCRIBER BELL" so I'm bound to always show up here sooner or later. Love you too Dev, we still need to play some video games together

[@ShortFatOtaku]

hell yeah. maybe BL3 but only if it's on PS4, fuck epic store

[@SuperLlama42]

I'm lucky enough to have not lost any friends to GamerGate or any of the nonsense to come afterwards, but there's a few communities I've naturally faded out of (or the community itself just faded out completely) where I get the feeling I wouldn't be welcomed back nowadays.

[@Jurkblot]

I liked what you said about standing your ground. I went to a typical SJW filled university and my roommate and I stuck a Trump 2020 flag on our window because we thought it was funny. A few days passed and some guy showed up banging on our window saying he was gonna rob us if we didn’t take the flag down calling us all sorts of names. That flag stayed up till the semester ended though I did get death threats for a while.

[@digitalcthulhu143]

Based

[@guccithe9440]

This video fucking spoke to me. It made me fucking snap into reality. Thank you for waking me up

[@fartherdude5062]

It’s a tough thing, best of luck to you.

[@andyrichter2714]

I’ve never lost a close friend due to my politics. I’ve been really lucky. Fortunately most of them aren’t that political. A lot of them even listen to me and ask me about stuff. Whenever I say something soft or ‘liberal’ they’ll sometimes say, ‘what happened to the right-wing death squad member we all know? What did you do with him?’

[@chesterstevens8870]

2016 was the year I stopped using Facebook: when I realized all the people I went to high school with thought guns were evil, the welfare state was a glorious inevitability, and it was perfectly acceptable to parade sexual perversion in the streets for any child or inpressionable mind to see. Three years of being called a bigot later, and I only have one thing to say: "Gradually I began to hate Them."

[@MrNickPresley]

Same here. I saw that most of the people on my facebook list despised me because I felt that some of the shit they did was really dumb. I lost people over BLM, Antifa, and Comicsgate, and at some point, I just stopped caring about them.

[@jebemtigolaz]

Irrationally hating 50% of the population? You've gotta pump these numbers up, son. Those are rookie numbers. Also funny, the older I get the more apolitical I get. Well... more like "shut the fuck up and mind your own business" apolitical. I just stand back and observe the people not being able to accept compromises or the idea that democracies should not be cattering to one side every 4 years.

[@stevenschnepp576]

Fortunately, no functional government is a democracy.

[@emperorontheinternet6510]

The internet was better in the past it...was simpler....it was fun

[@shivasthong4924]

Good times on Newgrounds back in 2000. :)

[@simbadas1234]

the bit where you talk about "thinking like a far leftie until you become one" reminds me of the time i tried changing my thought process to that of a far leftie, and god damn it felt weird, like i knew that i didn't actually believe the things i was thinking, but nevertheless it felt as if i did believe em and the original part of me was just obverving and going like "wth are you saying"

[@santini_pls]

As cliché it may sound, it's really sad this video and your channel don't get more views. Especially because of the message at the end. Keep up the good work and never stop posting dude

[@poyobotyahoo7494]

Damn, this is an old video of yours (relatively) but that reminded me of a friend I knew in grade 5. A year later she moved to new york city. another 3 years and now she is still my friend, but I can tell that she had become much more radical and I feel like she is getting worse. I don't know how long our friendship will last. But damn, it feels bad.

[@someguyO2W]

I'm a pariah amongst my colleagues now.

[@Moridorable]

>sargon >far right youtuber Wat.

[@ldmt1995]

I know what you mean, can't stand hypocrites, Dev it's really hard to find someone with principles in this day and age I'm glad you brain didn't fall from you head.

[@PeterPottorff]

This semester, in one of my classes my professor wanted to have all of us tow the party line on immigration and I consistently wrote a strong but, polite refutation of his points. Got a 95.5% in the class too,

[@MegaDeathRay10]

Too bad the tribes demand blood

[@MegaDeathRay10]

Blood! Blood! Blood! Blood!

[@robertortiz-wilson1588]

Very good advice. Thank you. My anxiety and fears only grow the more I indulge in procrastination.

[@tedlogan4867]

Thumbs up this so it gets the traction it deserves. This is a message that transcends his personal experience, but the fact that it's so personal brings it home. Good story, true, real, with receipts, and absolutely vital that more people hear this.

[@athenassigil5820]

I'm an older dude,, but this resonates. I've seen the same thing over the last 6 or so years, thing is, where is it going to end? ....that's the scary thing.

[@stevenschnepp576]

I have a funny feeling it's going to end in camps.

[@ddxinthehouse]

Fun fact: GPM stole charity money from the Vinesauce community who hosted the charity.. he used the stolen money to buy a arcade cabinet back in 2017.

[@Para0234]

When you play the devil's advocate, even when forced, you will end up believing in the devil.

[@Robotrik1]

Fair points, but I'll add something else: The shit that ppl did in their late teens / early-mid 20's is not what they'll be doing 10-15 years later (unless they're PewDiePie ... , and if you'll notice he's starting to change too by sprinkling in more and more politics -- but he's doing it the smart way, by doing it slowly and trying to take his audience with him on his journey). Can I take a stab at the age the ppl you're talking about are in now ? Late 20's or early to mid 30's ? There's one constant to that age group, and that is that unless you're super successful, you sooner or later begin to notice the number of opportunities and the chances for a fresh restart deminish ... -- which in turn push you to ... domesticate / normalize . It's the opposite of your late teens & early 20's when all the doors are open and (relatively to later in life) you can start anew on a dime . So your friends, they may or may not have gone sjw cray-cray (but since the sjw cray-cray is the new norm in media, they're gravitating there) , as they may be just hunting for that security in life ... , a security that is an illusion on the Left . 10 years behind the Iron Curtain have taught me that very well, as in that era, your neighbors, and your co-workers would happily turn you in for "wrongthink" against the Party .

[@sicachii969]

ah, so that's why you asked us to all make fun of you on discord :P

[@Mrcharrio]

I refuse to be PC and will go out of my way to keep my language unedited. I have lost a few friends and some family don't like it but oh well, can't please everyone. I also know when to behave tho, there is use for professionalism when you need it.

[@holyordersol2668]

Mrcharrio Not religious, but *amen* to that. I’m generally the same way, though a swear or three still escapes my mouth when i’m on the clock.

[@JakBed96]

I have never cut anyone out of my life over a disagreement. No matter how bad things get I won't change that. I really wish that the other side felt the same way though. What happened to humanity?

[@shivasthong4924]

It truly baffles me.

[@MrDarthtelos]

YOU can't change someone's mind. THEY have to change their mind. They make the choice, and no matter how compelling your evidence, they must accept it to change. If they don't. They won't. That's what I've always interpreted Sargon's belief about changing minds to be. Like Socrates said, I cannot teach a man anything. I can only make him think.

[@sirquaffler542]

I'm glad I got through college without being thoroughly changed. It's probably because I'm at times a complete contrarian. When everyone in my group of friends say they like Dr. Pepper, then I'm gonna be that guy to scream out "SCREW YOU I like Pepsi" even though I despise Pepsi and like Dr. Pepper. I'm okay with being a contrarian asshole with things that don't matter, like soda preferences, but when it comes to things that really do matter, then it becomes me obstinately refusing to back down from my beliefs. I took an Ancient History class in my freshman year, and when it came time to discuss The Bible the professor attempted to tear it apart. I knew most of the other people in the class were devout Christians, in fact better Christians than myself (at least in how they portrayed themselves outwardly), but they all hung their heads low and didn't speak up against him because they just wanted to get that A and move on. I said to myself "SCREW THAT, I don't care if I get a C or even a D, I'm not gonna let this guy get away with slandering my faith!" and I debated him right then and there for the rest of the class period. And waddaya know, the rest of them have as far as I have observed swerved far left authoritarian, and I have remained center-right libertarian where I've always been, and for that I'm now apparently a Nazi for defending my lord and savior Jesus Christ from my woke professor.

[@xsteveconwayx]

Holy crap. None of this ever occurred to me. I just thought the market shifted and people lost interest in that type of content as they aged and that’s why a lot of the big names dropped off (and Spoony had mental health issues). Well, that and cringy sketches and character movies no one wants to see Huh. And here I am with this writing, standup, and acting experience on the shelf looking for a new creative hobby as I return to standup. Well, I guess sometimes you just gotta be the change you want to see.

[@ShortFatOtaku]

Oh no, the market's dying for that content. but all of the previous creators became SJWs, and the few people who still try to make it are either very small (me) or are maligned by the media for being 'nazis' (jontron/pewdiepie)

[@xsteveconwayx]

@@ShortFatOtaku Oh shit. Thanks for the reply, dude. I'm not even looking to make KZbin a career. I've been eyeing it as a way to get more people to buy a ticket to see me tell jokes. And if the day arrives when the outrage mob comes for me, I welcome it. They can't ruin my normie career. I can work anywhere in the world. They're not going to ruin my stand up hobby. I can do that anywhere in the world. Oh, shit. Am I a daywalker?!

[@greenlionguardian]

NOW you understand the phrase "Stand and FIGHT."

[@NeflewitzInc]

We used to get a lot of "back when the board was better" or "back when 4chan was good" kind of talk in 2010 to 2014 and the response is the same now as then. Rchan was never good. We all just had fun.

[@ShortFatOtaku]

it was never good

[@Double189]

Dude I have been binge watching your channel and just wanted to thank you for speaking on these issues. I haven't found a reason to not trust you and find this trust I find in your content really worth my time.

[@ShortFatOtaku]

Thank you dude. If you run out of Devo content but want to binge some more: Non-political goofy videos - kzbin.info/door/6JqRzevf47DxetO2oixKIA Gaming playthrough recordings - kzbin.info Stream - www.twitch.tv/gameboomers I've got like... 80 total days of content online. As in, if you watched me 24/7, you'd have to watch 80 days to see it all. YOU'LL NEVER RUN OUT AHAHAH :p

[@Double189]

@@ShortFatOtaku Hey thanks for the response! I find your political views to be genuine and not hypocritical like so many out there I used to look up to. I mainly just meant I was watching a lot of your videos as of late and will definitely check out your other channels.

[@ShortFatOtaku]

Thank you so much eh! Hop on the discord or somethin tomorrow, we can chat about it if you like

[@Double189]

@@ShortFatOtaku Oh thank you I'll keep that in mind if I have the time

[@thethingOOO]

hahaahha, I lost a friend to the Covington catholic kids, I asked him how people chanting build the wall is racist and he had a melt down.

[@sequorroxx]

He was never your friend. You were not a human being to him, you were a tool. When you stopped being that tool, he stopped using you.

[@torrasque0151]

Technically they did chant some sports school chants to drown out the Kangz Israelites who were calling them faqqots. But it wasn't fucking political, or offensive or anything.

[@AaronAlexanderOfficial]

Remember the movie 'Old Yeller'? Old Yeller had been a faithful companion to a boy named Travis until one day a rabid wolf attacked him... sadly Old Yeller became rabid and Travis was left but to put him down with a shot to the head. What I just described was Channel Awesome and the rest of the people you've mentioned. They have become Old Yeller and they have gotten worse and worse and worse every year. It'll be a matter of time when most of them get the metaphoric Old Yeller treatment that Travis had to administer because it seems they're too far gone and honestly all they care about is feeding their derangement. It's sad but at this point i'm over it.

[@J-Wolf17FTW]

This video in a nutshell: I am a shadow, the true self.

[@lordscorch3167]

a bit late, but i have a piece. i really look up to Fraser Agar and FarFromSubitle as a whole, they really helped me out when i was a teen and had no social life to speak of and the first time in my life i found myself in a dark place mentally. video games awesome was something i could look forward to and have in the background and simulate "hanging out" with people. their comedy was peak and genuine, and in instilled in me that if i ever had a internet following of any kind i would want it to be like the turbo club. i never really hung out with other turbos aside from playing on the TF2 server, but they were all nice. the thing i most enjoyed about the attitude of the community was how everyone could have an opinion, and back at the time around 2014 before gamergate, anyone could have an edgy take. maybe you though a game was boring, maybe you though a movie was cringe, and fraser himself was no slough to these kind of takes. there were alot of things i disagreed with fraser on, like his favoritism for corporations or that a technocracy was inevitable and anyone who stands in its way is an idiot, or if he disliked a game i loved. but i didn't think less of him for it, and in a morbidly funny way i looked forward to his takes because his perspective was still insightful. them moving to japan at 2018 didn't really have a big impact on me not really watching anymore, it was the fact that the "shadow-chat war" happened. long story short turbos that lost their minds because of trump and started to vent in the VGA forums about how the world had gone mad, and when level-headed turbos started to bring up that this wasn't the end of the world, the bans started to drop. for those that don't know, you had to donate money to join the turbo club and gain access to the forums, so then it started to bleed into youtube commets and twitter with the banned turbos trying to say their piece and that the mods (shocker) were abusing power. the mods then claimed that it was "trolls" who were paying 5$ to invade the forums and the live chat, which was a lie because i knew some of the turbos that were banned because we were both from alabama. with shit hitting the fan, fraser justifies the actions of the mods by going full retard with TDS and that anyone that supports the president he doesn't want as a fan, and even glouted about taking their money as "idiot tax". and not long after, their website was deleted as fraser was "scaling down" the production of the show. so all of those tid-bits are lost to time. in the end, i am not mad. i'm 27 years old now and i got what i needed from the show, i've been thinking about watching some of the classics like their mario party games or the heavy rain shows. but i would reather focus on finding something fresh and interesting rather then reminisce and potentially become depressed and bitter. i still think foundly of fraser, but i know the show isn't for me anymore. in the end he did give me one more hot-take that i learned the most from, principles, and sticking to them, matter.

[@princeabassi7771]

I understand that feeling a lot. I was ostracized by a group of peers I used to hang around for almost a decade. They got far more left wing it was insane.

[@rachelhendricks6886]

This video is moreso relevant now. Group hug for everyone who feels the oppression of group think.

[@CountArtha]

I know what happened to all those early social media adopters you admire: They grew up. They no longer feel a personal connection to the adolescents and young adults who gravitate to their content, because some of them are closer to 40 than 20 now and it makes them self-conscious. So now they lash out at the same age cohort they used to produce content for. And the whole time, they're just projecting by saying "it was so much better when I was that age."

[@12pimpinez]

This video turned me from a subscriber to clicking the bell! It might be vague, but I have been compromising my views and staying in line due due to fear of social backlash, and yesterday I was looser and calmer and I felt like a different person and I think it had to do with the fact that I wasn't fearing about what I had to say. Very eye opening!

[@deliezer]

“But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was over. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.”

[@117DeathWalker]

Instead of more "conservative", I'd like to argue that they become more 'safe'. I've found my views inching closer to the radical left, because that's what is 'safe', to have. Even though I hate these ideas, I've started internalizing them. Most of my friends have done the same as well. The 'conservatives', also seem to do the same, unless they live in an area that shuns them. (Friend who worked in Oregon)

[@ripleyandweeds1288]

I like watching your friend visibly hold back his commie anger when you and the other guy roasted him in the one clip

[@ShortFatOtaku]

hahah he's a good guy. he rails on me for being a capitalist just as much, we all have a good time. streaming videogames with him is fun. :3

[@noblekatana2270]

My best friend and I had the worst political argument and now he refuses to talk to me. I’m a full body sad now