WHO is Cassie's father? FNAF Ruin Theory

[@mxsxnslxy]

Having Some Of The FNAF 4 Bullies Come Back In More Important Roles Would Be So Cool

[@cathaha68]

I like to think you play as Michael Afton during the night sections and the reason every animatronic is scary is because it reminds you of what you and your friends did to your younger brother and it comes back to haunt you

[@gaminganimators7000]

I've always wanted them to be important, before the MCI were made actual characters I headcanoned the victims were Evans bullies

[@frostbitetheannunakiiceind6574]

ikr

[@adhmarneto4838]

He would be like 50 in Security Breach

[@mxsxnslxy]

@@adhmarneto4838 Thats Not That Bad

[@iamagirl9938]

This is a pretty neat theory and one I do hope will be canon. Cassie's dad being Bonny Mask Bully doesn't matter ALL that much in the grand scheme of things but it would be a really neat detail. A small nod to older games.

[@joaogabrielimperial7777]

it's never too late to be a father, at 54 he had a daughter

[@ASonicPlayer]

@@joaogabrielimperial7777 he could have had a daughter earlier since Cassie is somewhere around 10 -12 years old

[@Awes0me_Waffle]

It wouldn't make sense to have a child at around 50 and mroe

[@Awes0me_Waffle]

@@joaogabrielimperial7777 it is sometimes to late, at 50+ is OLDZ

[@AmericaFuckYeah4]

A 68 year old can't father a 12 year old

[@locomotivefaox]

My genuine reaction while playing was “it better not be f***ing Afton again.”

[@nigus.]

The fact that it actually makes sense, my jaw dropped💀 Noticed how your teories are short and clear, straight to the point, I am tired from big theory channels that have like 30min video and getting to the point at the 27th minute. New subscriber from your neighborhood 🇸🇰🇭🇺

[@zc0pezy]

I like this theory and I can see how Steel Wool might want to try to add more details about characters and experiences around Fredbear's as they already said how they would like to make a Fredbear's Family Diner game. If he is still alive, he could be used to retell stories from FBFD, or if he has passed, I wouldn't be surprised if it's revealed that he is actually Jeremy or Luis from AR/VR.

[@SpeedyChad]

He could be still alive due to the fact that she "says just like my dads" and not "just like dad used to have" plus that technology seems quite new so if her dad is dead he would have died quite recently. There is a possibility we play as cassie's dad in help wanted 2, him being a fazber technician being sent to the sister location bunker to do stuff kinda of a stretch but ruin and help wanted 2 are connected by the fact that the thingamabob that powers the doors being in the sister loaction elevator in the trailer.

[@adhmarneto4838]

I think her dad will be the protagonist of help wanted 2

[@JKJ44]

You seem to be right​@@adhmarneto4838

[@The_Praetorian]

I believe that the bonnie mask bully (bmb) is Jeramy Fitzgerald, not that one who got killed, but the fnaf 2 one, and so would have a bigger role then has been known. This means that he would also have worked at a previous fnaf location before, making it more likely to land an engineering job, as he would have been popular with the company, having survived fnaf 2. That is if he wasn't the bite of '87 victim. 🤔

[@gryzelek.pl556]

Michael would hate him if he met him again. Fnaf fans know why.

[@Steamboat56]

3:29 Uuhm, actually the freddy mask bully also speaks, he is the boy who laughs and says to the crying child "are you the one who always cries under the tables? HAHA" or something like that, you can tell by his color palette, Yes I'm a NERD☝️🤓

[@burnttoast.2017]

There's a 3rd interpretation of that "Bonnie was my dad's favorite". Linking back to Bonnie's disappearance, she could be referring to the fact Bonnie died too

[@ohiolover69]

Its good when seeing a fnaf theory video appears in my recommend.

[@Tianafaithh]

This theory is super cool! I mean it would make sense to bring back already but existing characters like pigtail girl and I don’t think Scott would just ignore characters like this unless they had something to do with the story and he didn’t want us to figure it out

[@robxholicfoxyfan8552]

So uh, fun fact: Freddy bully does speak but he does so without his mask when Crying Child is walking around the neighborhood. He's sitting down and laughing, asking if he's the kid who always lays under the table and cries (if I recall correctly). But the Bonnie Bully being Mike's best Friend and Cassie's would line up well with only getting a Bonnie and Foxy mask in the collectables.

[@MonkeyWithNoBomb]

This is exactly what I thought when I saw the detail of Cassie's Dad loving Classic Bonnie in specific. Though it probably isn't very important in the long run, it would be a cool idea for this to be the case, and it wouldn't really have too many story implications.

[@compeditor]

This is actually such a good theory, if this is true, then I never thought steel wool would do something like this. Impressive, just like how Scott would fit something like this in.

[@hgghfghfghfghf]

I feel like if cassies dad is bonnie mask bully then in the future theyre gonna do more wit him bc why would they make her father be this obscure ass character from so many games ago. If he shows up again anytime soon this theory would seem really lijkely

[@DJ_Music_Man2]

I really like the Bonnie bully being her dad it’d be pretty cool

[@heidigorham]

that makes sense

[@Not_Tyni]

Just found your channel and enjoy the content keep up the great work

[@finixmoon127]

This probably our most likely candidate, either that or it's an entirely new character (Bonnie mask Bully would be cooler). But FNAF hypothesis aside I really appreciate the quality of the editing here, and I hate saying this but you do seem to be criminally underrated, so you've earned a new sub lol

[@funtime7723]

The Bonnie Mask Bully Might Had Cassie In His 15's Instead Would Make Sense Why She's 12 And Somehow Knows Her Dad And His Favorite

[@yellowdemongd]

Your videos need to get way more attention because this is some real good stuff

[@NOOB4h]

nice theory, it is possible.

[@Takejiro24]

So, with Help Wanted 2 out and people now on board with the theory that the Bonnie Bully from FNAF 4 is not only Cassie's Dad but is also the player character of HW2, how do you feel being one of the very first people (even before MatPat) to have come out with this theory?

[@Izzery_]

It feels so amazing but also kinda weird especially 'cause I totally thought this theory was far-fetched😭

[@AshishXMC]

Whoever it is, there’s a likely chance that her father is the main character of Help Wanted 2, cause she says it’s just like his Dad, and the tube stuff used, is in Help Wanted 2.

[@jokernoob9905]

MY BRAIN IS MELTING WHY DOES IT MAKE SO MUCH SENSE.

[@The_Gabe]

The wrench was placed on top of a red tool box. And it’s some kind of wrench. Who else uses wrenches and red tool boxes and frequently works with robots? That’s right, the RED Engineer from Team Fortress 2.

[@DefinitivamenteNoSoyAaronCraft]

when i was a kid my parents where in their 40's so its not discarded at all (sorry if i said something wrong english is not my principal language)

[@Dreamy_sweet_dragon]

I think Cassie’s dad will be introduced in help wanted 2 because we see the same hacking thing in the help wanted 2 trailer where you put it the faz-wrench in it

[@TenTamten]

Cassie's dad is Scott Cawthon. We all know that Scott exists in the Fnaf world and his favorite animatronic was Bonnie (according to him he decided to make the first Fnaf)

[@24Ippo]

People say Cassie's dad is someone new to the franchise but the thing about going against the Aftons is that you required one thing: commitment. This person is aware of what's happening in the Pizzaplex, he knows the story about the franchise and yet he worked in there for a while, he even brought his own daughter to the place as some kind of beta tester for the attractions such as Foxy's pirate cove, a place that wasn't even open to the public that means he stayed in there for a while, he even knows how the fazrench works so imagine if regular workers were already on Vanny's sight and what would happened to someone who has access to animatronics and robots, it is a dire scenario and yet this person kept going forward. And why i did brought the point about commitment well it's because Michael after the bite of 83' he felt remorse for a very long time, he followed his father's instructions in order to gain some kind of redemption even after being scooped and then he decided to burn him including himself and that's is proof of commitment so what if Michael wasn't the only one who felt like this, what if Bonnie mask bully felt the same and wanted the same thing: redemption. He studied to become a technician and my theory is: Bonnie Mask is Henry's apprentice. He has the knowledge, he has the means to stop whatever is happening in there but most of it all, they both have the commitment to stop them and if Henry's plan didn't work, Cassie's dad would step in. In fact, Cassie's age makes sense because PS takes places around 9 to 11 years ago give it or take, her age feels too coincidental at the point that even the game is pointing it out and when something is odd you need to follow that trail.

[@R1Pfnaf]

In the story *Step Closer* the Mike parallel is 16 years old. So if we say they are at the same age, that bonnie guy must be 16 y.o. too. And in my opinion, Security Breach is either 2029 or 2035. And these dates fits very well into timeline. Despite that, this video is awesome. Keep up.

[@mateszegner1249]

omg matpat made the same theory three weeks later

[@MostStupidGoofyGoober]

bro like the vine booms every minute I can’t 💀💀💀

[@binhoax9840]

I like watching this type of videos made by Izzery because of two reasons: 1. The theories she talks about or discusses about has some good points and makes me more curious / interested in learning more about the theory she's talking about. 2. Her voice is just so good to hear, it's so chill and so relaxing to listen on- lol

[@Sapphire864]

The font at the top is literally the font I’ve been using in canva for a while now lol

[@YufengGaming]

Mother- THIRD TIME I'M WRITING THIS! Essentially: WHY would this be relavant? #1:(Possible Case and Point, Awaiting confirmation) He would be the best friend of Michael, which would allow him to land a decent job at Circus Baby's Rentals. #2: (Case and point) He would teach his kids to be independent and serious from the emotional and psychological trauma of witnessing and participating in The Bite of '83. Not to mention the utter shock he would get from his own stupidity and ignorance. #3: (Counterpoint) He's 60?! With preteens!? Enough said. (P.S. I am enjoying your theories so far, you've got talent... This one makes a bit of sense... I'll forward this to MatPat, see what he thinks...)

[@AshtonHernandez]

theories' regarding the FNAF 4 tormentors i seen so far... A Cinephiles Ramblings: Is Jeremy Fitzgerald actually a FNAF4 bully?! Matt Patt: Micheal Afton is Glam rock Freddy! You: Could BonnieBully be cassie's father?

[@Takejiro24]

Personally, I've always thought Freddy Mask Bully is/was Jeremy. Now, we just need a theory on Chica Mask Bully to round out the quadfecta! Who does the A Cinephiles Ramblings think Freddy Mask Bully is? I can't seem to find a video on them. (Is that even a word? 🧐)

[@yassernawaf1462]

I guess you could say he never got back with the milk😂😢

[@TussalDragon344]

This has the same energy as The Spot being the guy who got hit by a bagel in “Into the Spider-Verse”

[@Leonidas724]

Ok there gotta be a an update or another dlc hope we can save and actually repair the animatronics but that is not the point the ruin dlc has opened more questions than it has answered

[@ghfg4402]

Indeed, this theory seems somewhat realistic.

[@emsstudio2468]

My theory is that Cassie is related to the FNAF 4 bully but it’s her grandpa

[@binhoax9840]

That's what I was thinking about.

[@pep3953]

It’s theorized the bonnie bully is jeremy, the bite of 87 victim and survivor which would be entirely possible

[@fredbearsecurity]

Huh

[@MortarlWolf]

Ooorrr. Cassie father could be THE MIMIC.

[@geteer18]

100% makes sense, and i agree with you

[@sebastianszyrwinski9325]

​@@geteer18how?

[@geteer18]

@@sebastianszyrwinski9325 nohow, this guy is either crazy or just joking

[@sebastianszyrwinski9325]

@@geteer18 mhm ok

[@simonsmith3196]

I think his dad worked on glamrock bonnie

[@thiscat9712]

honestly i think i have the answer for the fazwrench it's probably the one he used an older model

[@adhmarneto4838]

It's the employees wand to acess Pizzaplex's system

[@thiscat9712]

@@adhmarneto4838 well yes but if cassie's father was a child during the 80s and worked so long so he probably had an older model of the fazwrentch

[@ChrisTheSlither1]

Can't wait for freddy to adopt cassie just like he adopted gregory that's just my theory lol

[@ChrisTheSlither1]

i'm so sorry lol

[@simonsmith3196]

too much fan fictions ☠️

[@DJBurns-jq8mn]

To me there are 3 answers that are very likely, the first is that he's just a new character that likely died with the other employees when Vanny called a staff meeting and will be at least referenced IN HW whether it's him we play as discovering the Mimic or Cassie trying to find a way out after Ruin. But if has to be a character that we know: The 2nd opinion I'd like to say that if there is definitive prove (and not just deleted stuff) that Michael is alive then he is her "father" as the only thing saying otherwise is that Cassie said that Bonnie was his favourite but that can be disregarded many ways such: •Cassie could of been confused to think that as Michael has an obsession with the Bonnie character •The fact that Michael can still like Bonnie without liking William's Bonnie himself wasn't used to kill kids. •And it's likely he got over the Bonnie stuff after William died and he would no longer like Foxy due to him bringing back horrible memories of him accidentally killing his brother. Now the 3rd (the my personal most likely) option is that if it's not Michael then *IMO* it must be Louis from FNAF AR since: •He works for Fredbear Entertainment by keeping status on the employees meaning he would be aware of anything wierd going on •Is known for working with technical stuff and was the only one that was aware of Vanessa's odd behaviour. •He had a thing for Vanessa and he said that he liked rabbits which can easily relate to Bonnie. •And He's high up in the rank of Fazbear Entertainment but not to high to be a board member so he would likely be a technician (possibly level 5). Lets not get into the fact that she might be a robot 😅

[@arcticwolflover263]

but the problem with your theory is micheal cant have kids given hes a corpse,and cassie wouldnt born during the time when pizzaplex was around cause that takes places years after pizza sim and helpwanted i highly dought micheal was even married and had kids cause corpses cant have sex

[@DJBurns-jq8mn]

@@arcticwolflover263 mate she can be a robot, whether you like it or not.

[@OddGrape657]

@@DJBurns-jq8mnWhat’s with people saying kids are robots Micheal could’ve had Cassie before he got scooped but I also like the theory that the Bonnie bully is the father and he didn’t get his organs scooped out.

[@DJBurns-jq8mn]

​@@OddGrape657mate we barely know anything and we are just trying to make sense of things so just wait for more information to start complaining and disproving the Robot kid theory.

[@OddGrape657]

@@DJBurns-jq8mn That’s because the theory is stupid and doesn’t make sense Hell a Character book had to say that Gregory and Vanessa are HUMAN’S also why would Cassie be a robot mate explain to me why would she be a robot.

[@jonathanshaw1436]

This is a well interesting theory. Though because Jeremy is black in the FNaF Movie I have a theory that perhaps Jeremy is the Bully wearing the Bonnie Mask. But I could be wrong

[@KendraWoods-sq8pb]

i wasnt paying attention about the lunchboxes but i think bonnie bully is a good idea

[@ray2dasherthedragon336]

We could see more of the bonnie kid/cassies father in the future. Like those shows that do a spin off with a side character like clevelands show. I also wanna maybe add the posibility that what if cassie can be her grand daughter maybe?

[@Freddie_06]

What I learned from this video: *Vine boom*

[@marian5554]

At this point i´ll accept anything that isn´t a robo kid

[@anavetsu]

NO I BELIEVE THAT THIS GUY IS CASSIE'S FATHER BECAUSE THIS IS JUST SO COOL AND I LIKE THE IDEA A LOT AMD I REALLY HOPE THAT THIS IS CANON

[@soufianegamerpro]

some theories says he is also the night guard jeremy fitzgerald from fnaf 2

[@Adventist1997]

I think it's a cool theory... But now I'm waiting for Mat Pat to make a theory video about her being a robot. 😂

[@fabiodimiceli2218]

I had a theory that jeremy is her dad and he is the bonnie bully

[@RealWheezerTF2]

I believe MatPat, it’s the kid from The Bite of 83 (The kid with the Bonnie mask)

[@Hum4n_R3mains39]

I’m Cassie’s father, steel wool is trying to hide it from you. Shhh..

[@sunsetlover123-y7c]

Tbh I'd love it if the lore went back to older games to answer questions old and new, it'll bring back my faith in this lore. Btw great theory!

[@dave212]

Loving these vids, I really am interested in info about Fredbear Gen

[@_cocopuffsss]

I feel like this is actually cannon.

[@arcticwolflover263]

honestly the only one we know so far that well isnt dead and has a favorite animatronic thats bonnie is the bonnie mask bully it would make sense honestly cause no way mike can make children given hes a corpse and corpses cant have sex,and henry doesnt havte another kid aside from sammy and charlie so no way henry can be her father

[@joshiefunlandgaming978]

It's a cool thought but if it was true I think the bonnie bully could be her grandad because a technician would be a hard job for somebody who's 50.

[@TIFFANYTHEBEARACCOON]

SB CAN'T BE BETWEEN 2025 AND 2030 CAUSE FNAF 3 IS 2O23 AND THEN WE HAVE FFPS VR AND AR WHO ARE BETWEEN FNAF 3 AND FNAF SB

[@Wiskermark]

I think that the the farther was one of the tecnitians in sister location

[@AlexandraSpanou-hj6pg]

I hope its true cuz you have good points leave with no question great!

[@SupinePandora]

Vine boom nailed it 🔥

[@sparky111000]

Maybe in sister location, one of the technicians that died was cassies dad who died 🤔

[@silverbullet1620]

Maybe Bonnie Bully's Granddaughter is Cassie?

[@lucigooseyRemi]

Isnt bonnie mask bully Jeremy? Like Jeremy Fitzgerald? FNAF 2 nightgaurd?

[@thisisyouraverageperson]

There’s an chance along with also Freddy bully or Foxybro (Michael or someone else depending on who you believe Michael is) possibly being Jeremy Fitzgerald but nothings been confirmed on whether or not one of the Bullies is Jeremy F.

[@Eternalxxlol]

This actually makes sense!

[@joaogabrielimperial7777]

phone dude can be? his dream of working on fazbear

[@2ethefirst318]

Cassie also wheres a rabbit mask in the game like her dad then lol

[@LukiKruki]

Circus Baby has green eyes in the game but blue eyes in the mini-game because it's meant to show that Elizabeth who has green eyes possesed her. Bruh, Scrap Baby made sure to have hair more similar color to her old human "red" hair.

[@SilverFox5697]

I believe Cassidy is Cassie because of their similar appearance, her father likely adoptive her when she was younger, if she was the Bonnie bullies daughter it makes him still in his 30s (floating timelines are extremely common in video games and others) and FNaF Security Breach Ruin takes place on 2023.

[@mev1221]

They don’t even have similar appearances Cassie has brown hair and Cassidy has black hair

[@gaminganimators7000]

Pretty sure the Chica bully is talking because they have a blue shirt like how Michael's grey text matches his grey shirt

[@Comfy_GlitchX]

but after helping accidentally kil someone with a BONNIE mask, why would he still like Bonnie? It would probably cause trauma.

[@raphaelapolinario8111]

If the bullies ever met up again: Chica mask boy: It's alright. Freddy mask boy: Yes. Bonnie mask boy: Life's been good after the bite, I've started a family and became a technician. What about you Mike? Mike: I've seen things, things you don't want to know. Bonnie boy: That's rough buddy. What happened to your skin? Mike:.....Well....

[@TheEpsilon-9.Agent-621]

Well, if we find what the rel link between Gregory and the cc that would prob make some sense, so ye like u said even if it weird that we olay as a the daughter of a random character that we juqt saw one time, it still sound prety correct

[@Armoredmaple122]

Hey Matpat just did a video and he says pretty much the same thing!

[@NotThatPerson95]

Matpat steals once again

[@Stickman_guy72]

1:04 I doubt it

[@kiziamizia]

OH MY GOSH IT MAKES SENSE

[@diegoacosta6782]

Did ya notice the colors on the balloons of the bad ending are the same colors of the bullies as well as being 5 balloons 🤨🤨🤨

[@kitsunegaming87]

I don’t remember which hole it was on but in the Monty Golf mini game there is an anniversary balloon for the 75th anniversary of Faxbear Entertainment. Check me on this but depending on what the anniversary balloon says it will tell you when FNaF SB takes place. If it is 75 that would put SB in the year 2058.

[@kitsunegaming87]

It’s problem not 75 and I couldn’t find the balloon in it he golf Mini game so check me.

[@am3z_ssbu]

bro i just was scrolling on youtube and this vid came up saying 10 seconds ago

[@simonsmith3196]

I think his dad worked on glamrock bonnie likely

[@LukiKruki]

You didn't mention her father doesn't want to say Cassie what happend with Glamrock Bonnie and she got to use Foxy's ride when it wasn't allowed to public.

[@Solved_101]

I'm calling it William afton

[@zahidkausar3826]

I think Cassie is adopted by the bonnie mask bully or she is the granddaughter of him

[@VAC2010]

The Bonnie mask bully I think is actually Jeremy Fitzgerald the 2nd from fnaf 2 not to sure but this is my head cannon

[@ShadowRomain_200]

True

[@ShadowRomain_200]

But the Freddy mask says otherwise

[@VAC2010]

Haha Yeah@@ShadowRomain_200

[@chiomy5273]

huh interesting... also i wanted to say that Bonnie Mask Bully isn't the only Bully that talks Freddy Mask Bully also talks because he is very likely the Kid who laughs at you and says: "Aren't you the kid who always hides under the table and cries? Hahaha! No one else is scared! Why are you? Stop being such a baby!" y'know.. because they look *EXACTLY* the same This means that Chica Mask Bully is the only one that DOESN'T talk doesn't really matter just wanted to point it out

[@Alecasnotebook]

pls let this be tru i luv jeremy

[@fedjamrndic4017]

I like this theory

[@FlopFoNoHo]

Do you voice Jessica in The Silver Eyes comic dub?

[@Izzery_]

ahah no?? but ig i'll take that as a compliment

[@FlopFoNoHo]

@@Izzery_ oh, ok. I thought you sounded like her. Also, where are you from? You don’t have to answer, I’m just curious.

[@Izzery_]

@@FlopFoNoHo i'm not sure i wanna share that just yet, sorry!

[@RiadAnims]

​@@FlopFoNoHoShe's from Hungary, atleast that's what KZbin says.

[@FlopFoNoHo]

@@RiadAnims dawg, how did you get this info💀😭😭

[@ironingot458]

i dont think her dad is dead because bonnie was my dads favorite could referance that glamrock bonnie being replaced so cassies dads favorite WAS bonnie but bonnie doesnt exist anymore yes this has some flaws but still a theory is a theory

[@YouTubeGoji]

Interesting theory, I really hope it’s true lol

[@sneaky_sennit]

I don't think the Bonnie bully would be Cassie's dad. Yes there are a lot of similarities, but after Crying Child died he probably gained trauma from that event, and I doubt he'd want anything to do with Bonnie or Fazbear as a whole. If Ruin takes place in the late 2020's, (2025 or up) micheal would be probably over 60, meaning th Bonnie bully would be too. But, around or over 60 years old and having a child that isa little over 11 years old? Seems a little weird considering most people have children in their 20s or 30s. And why would the Bonnie bully of all people be mentioned?? I figure Cassie's dad is probably dead, because they use 'was' 'were' and 'has' for him a lot, past tense- inferring he probably passed away. But when a death is mentioned, it's important. So Cassie's dad had to have been a death in the franchise, or one that's going to be mentioned very soon. There's no way they referenced her dad for nothing.

[@Orange-inkling]

Mike,boonie mask kid,Henry, are dead

[@_zenny_0]

what if it’s Micheal 🤔

[@kiziamizia]

but she would be purple cuz michael turned purple in sl