Who is Feixiao's Best Partner?

Who is Feixiao's Best Partner? | Topaz vs. Moze

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@Christian-bx9pi Ай бұрын

Honestly, I just love March with feixiao

@hihiya9806 Ай бұрын

The march weakness break is just so damn good

@greenvega Ай бұрын

Wouldn't change her even for e1 topaz, she just to synergistic with her, always match her weakness and imaginary and sp factory on top of that and if u have well invested robin march just top up both of topaz and moze easy

@o0ugi860 Ай бұрын

Right? That's like my only hangup on pulling for topaz, I have e2 moze too but march has so much utility and drops like 120k casually lutiple times per turn

@owoflux6025 Ай бұрын

@@o0ugi860 heh? no she doesn't, she does like 0 damage until her enhanced basic which tbf is still only every like 2 turns tops with Feixiao, so she's definately insane for weakness break but not for damage...

@RezDK Ай бұрын

@@o0ugi860 moze e2 has more FUA he let's her stack ult faster, has overall more personal dmg and provides better offensive buffs for fei

@Kspice9000 Ай бұрын

@@RezDKagreed. It's no contest. Especially when you just stack a shitload of spd on him.

@jakeail1995 Ай бұрын

the video and the playerbase: Moze or Topaz me: hunt march joke aside, instead of thinking which one is better, i think it better if we just think them all as an option so just switch around depend on enemy weakness/res

@wyattskyy Ай бұрын

Yeah especially if the points for Fei comes out roughly the same

@ElHuntik Ай бұрын

@@wyattskyy Help me please, make a MOC video of Feixiao composing with Jiaoqiu, it's funny that I couldn't find any video on KZbin with the two of them together in exchange for robin and making the difference in comparison.

@imagineboredom Ай бұрын

that’s exactly what i do. each of them is used depending on enemy weaknesses

@_mako Ай бұрын

comparison is needed if someone is thinking of pulling for topaz just for feixiao

@jakeail1995 Ай бұрын

@@_mako - i'm not objecting comparison but i think comparison should be done to have a better understanding instead trying to figure out who is better than who. - By trying to think who better than who, you would easily fall into the mindset of "becoz this is the best so i need it" which can easily lead to FOMO, i had fall into this and many people had - Feixiao in reality is very flexible with her teammate, she is not very picky with who will be her partner or not. For example Acheron need you to bring nihility on the team but there is no similar restriction with Feixiao (yes Feixiao want char that can do a lot of action like fua or extra turn but this is something being encourage not forced). - Hsr combat will require you to switch around your teamcomp to better adapt to enemy line up so there is no 1 solution to every problems (unless you a whale that can just e6s5 everything then feel free to brute force) => Due to Feixiao flexibility and hsr combat, any char that can pair with Feixiao is an option, not a mandatory or forever stuck with her. => by thinking of char as option instead of mandatory/"i need this char", it make seeing char as optional which help lessen the fomo (atleast it work for me so far)

@fleup3870 Ай бұрын

"It takes about E2 5* investment to get an E6 4*" Me, who got Moze E6 before getting Feixiao: 😅😭

@imrane161 Ай бұрын

me who got e2 feixiao and is still stuck on e4 moze

@aymenchellali9488 Ай бұрын

i got gepard and feixiao and robin and still stuck at e5

@Totigno Ай бұрын

I got E3 Topaz before E6 Xueyi, and now I aim for E4

@yojalata Ай бұрын

Idk how people have such good luck that they can E2 before E6 an 4 star. I always get at least 8 4* before a 2nd 5 star

@PenguinWithInternetAccess Ай бұрын

same, himeko and bailu will not stop screwing my 50/50 lmao

@kyleest7540 Ай бұрын

I will never get tired hearing the little root town bgm

@dr.stonksakahelth5857 Ай бұрын

My childhood ❤❤❤. Emerald is my first ever pokemon game

@nickarooroo6397 Ай бұрын

Feixiao does more damage with Topaz but the Moze run 0 cycled anyway. So I guess you really just swap between them depending on enemy weaknesses.

@akshayreddy4071 Ай бұрын

Swap depending on resistances and how well your robin is built, the better your robin the better topaz does in comparison to moze

@td984 Ай бұрын

Moze is significantly worse in PF and AS. PF his kit basically ceases to function and AS wants you to kill adjacent mobs as fast as possible. Topaz's mark mechanic automatically transfers to a new enemy after they die unlike Moze who needs a turn to mark a new enemy which makes Topaz way less clunky. March is free and far more versatile than him.

@owowonn Ай бұрын

@@td984 you are not supposed to run 4 star hunt characters in a mode tailored for aoe characters such as pure fiction. I thought this was common sense for everyone but i guess i was expecting too much from hsr players

@melusine6 Ай бұрын

@@owowonnare you rêtarded?

@owowonn Ай бұрын

@@melusine6 yes you are rêtarded.

@dmytrokapshuk6183 Ай бұрын

For me the most comfortable partner for Feixiao is March and she deals really good dmg and buffs

@dmytrokapshuk6183 Ай бұрын

And I also don’t have e6 Moze( but I got 9 copies of Asta which is e30 by now

@o0ugi860 Ай бұрын

@@dmytrokapshuk6183 dawg I got like 12 lukas and 7 astas, only 3 moze. Pain

@HelloThere-hz6po Ай бұрын

@@dmytrokapshuk6183same but luka…

@Morkins324 Ай бұрын

I will say, this is one of the more favorable battles for Moze in that it is a 2 phase battle with chunky elites, almost no target switching, and Lightning Weakness. The problem that Moze is generally going to have in a rather significant amount of content is that he simply can struggle to maintain Prey uptime and any need for target switching simply does not work with him. This fight doesn't have to worry about that. In the right scenario, he is obviously very good, but if the battle does anything to disrupt his ideal setup/sequencing he quite literally falls off a cliff.

@wyattskyy Ай бұрын

Yeah agreed. Him and topaz seem very similar but their differences favor towards big bosses vs mobs and target switching.

@akshayreddy4071 Ай бұрын

@wyattskyy I wouldn't say moze is necessarily better for big bosses, for example in current apocalyptic shadow, even the big bosses in the mod where moze should shine the most have so many summons and required target switching, damage is similar but topaz feels infinitely more comfy even at e0s0 imo. Another thing to mention is that the better your robin, the better topaz will do over moze

@Morkins324 Ай бұрын

@@akshayreddy4071 Yeah. I'm just seeing the trends here and bosses where you single-mindedly focus on a single target for the entire fight just aren't where the game is headed.

@akshayreddy4071 Ай бұрын

@@Morkins324 yeah that's what the trend of bosses since like 2.1 with aventurine has been, last caveman brain hit big boss enemy was Sam I think. Honestly kinds mixed feelings about it though, it'll make some units like moze worse, but it'll also make some like seele better. At the very least it makes for much more interesting bosses, and forces them to make cooler hunt units that can deal with such conditions like boothill and feixiao

@Pepegaphone-- Ай бұрын

This is where hunt 7th is gonna enter my team instead. I just see no reason on pulling for topaz when my moze is good enough to clear content against elites and bosses and march does the job in all other aoe scenarios. Which is also partly why I feel topaz is overrated. To perform ever so slightly better on a team archetype that is good enough without her presence by using a 4 star literally paired with feixiao and robin banner and a free one you get at e6 with no reprecautions is just bad character for me.

@srujang.s6651 27 күн бұрын

This is exactly the video I was looking for, awesome content.

@iSUMMONYT Ай бұрын

Very nice video bro! This essentially confirms my initial calcs and testing. I thought the Gap between E1 Topaz and E6 Moze was bigger but even then they are very close. Amazing video🔥

@wyattskyy Ай бұрын

Thanks bro. I shouldve put moze on err I think it’s would’ve pumped his numbers even more with 2 follows and an ult at the very end but him and topaz did even number of attacks so I think it’s fair.

@chaselewis5372 Ай бұрын

It likely would have been bigger if the enemies were fire weak & electric weak. Gotta remember the numbers are skewed about 10%+ depending on how it averages out towards Moze given the resistances. It's not the end of the world difference but the margin is a bit higher than seen in this video for sure.

@kazu_4k Ай бұрын

“E6 moze is harder to get” Me with my e0 feixiao and my e6 moze because I lost to Clara 40 in 😮

@ForTheViolence Ай бұрын

The 3rd gen Pokémon music meme continues! Great video by the way. I hope we get a 4 star selector next patch.

@ayusha480 Ай бұрын

I was very curious about this topic, thank you! Very informative.

@juliuskingsley4400 Ай бұрын

I don’t have feixiao but moze has been doing wonders for my ratio as a topaz replacement

@HazeOvO Ай бұрын

Yea Moze having 2 debuffs without LC is really good so he's BiS unless u got e1/s1 for Topaz

@_JoeVer Ай бұрын

@@HazeOvO i mean with s1 topaz you can just give her lc to moze ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ mine is e0s1 and i'd love to test moze with her lc on a ratio team, but my moze is only e1 after getting my robin to e2😅😅

@Helperishere Ай бұрын

@@_JoeVer Before e2 he is pretty mediocre at best. But bc he applies debuffs he increases ratio dmg in more ways than Topaz does. Topaz just has more personal dmg with the same build.

@HazeOvO Ай бұрын

@@_JoeVer You could but u just lose consistency with the FUA buffing Moze for Ratio is better than e0s0 Topaz bc of the debuffs he provides but his dmg boost is a bit less + his FUA buffing isn't 100% uptime. If u got Topaz LC then she's just better bc she keeps the bonuses she has over Moze but now she also has an extra debuff for Ratio to use

@antivenom68 Ай бұрын

The debates in comments are so nice ☕️

@FuriousGunnerKat Ай бұрын

Lol ikr

@Ero-Sempai Ай бұрын

Try march 7 with moze its really fun

@Beanichu Ай бұрын

Agreed. I may be biased because I just love March but she is so good with Feixiao

@0v_x0 Ай бұрын

I no longer have any FOMO about not having Topaz. E6 Moze on 2pc FUA and Duran with Dr Ratio sig. Nearly 300CDMG w/ total combat procs, seen 300k from one ult+fua, not to mention the frequency of attacks with Feixiao and Aventurine

@0v_x0 Ай бұрын

able to 0 cycle both sides of 2.5 MoC 12

@phineassiowleherng7940 Ай бұрын

My friend rlly went "Screw it, I'm using both of them"

@neroatlas Ай бұрын

Got here at random without even realizing, but huge kudos for Pokémon Gen 3 music ❤ So nostalgic.

@edimasv4581 Ай бұрын

every cc and tc who's literally doing the calc and testing have been saying topaz it's bis for fei and mf in the comment section still in denial oof pure bs. Classic

@KingDarkness100 19 күн бұрын

Its a little bit more dmg for 180 pulls wow

@AnastasiaPhantom Ай бұрын

I think you missed one Numby attack by Robin ulting before numby's turn 5:39 , which would have generated more energy for Topaz plus generating 1 more stack for Feixiao. Again at 8:24, if you had just done topaz turn and let numby attack then cast topaz and robin ult. It would have allowed Numby attack one more time overall, generating one more point for Feixiao. These are small differences, but I think they are meaningful if the fight was actually tough. Thank you for video.

@lucyvalentine8026 Ай бұрын

If that was the case she would've dealt even less damage

@AnastasiaPhantom Ай бұрын

@@lucyvalentine8026 It is literally one free extra attack. Missed. It would not deal less damage to have 2 extra free attacks. Yes, they would deal less dmg than with Robin ult, but Robin ult resets Numby's position back to bottom so only thing that happens is that Numby loses one free attack.

@lucyvalentine8026 Ай бұрын

@@AnastasiaPhantom Robin's ult doesn't reset numby's position back to bottom she just advances forward the team, so all she does is delay numby's action for 1 action of the team because normally one attack is enough for numby to act immediately and this time with robin's ult buffs, which is exactly what happened, if he had let numby act she would indeed go back to bottom, and she would need more attacks than 1 to act so he did end up winning damage that way

@AnastasiaPhantom Ай бұрын

@@lucyvalentine8026 It is true that Numby would need 1 more attack to advance back to top but Fexiao generates 3 attack and Fu xuan 1 and topaz advances Numby by 100% each action under the ultimate. And since Topaz acts last of the 3. We end up with Numby at bottom, Fei Skil 50% > Fei Fua 50% > Numby attack > Fu xuan 50% > Fei Fua 50% > Numby Attack > Topaz 50% if we use Numby attack before Robin Ult. Exact same position if we use it before as Topaz only has 2 stack of her ultimate.

@wyattskyy Ай бұрын

This is very interesting. I’m not a master at topaz rotations lol. My idea to help get the hits enhanced at 0av but I get what you’re saying if you can advance enough to get back it doesn’t matter you can still get the hits but more. I need to test around more and get all of her complexities understood. Thanks for the comment!

@alexfrank5331 Ай бұрын

Missed a category: Target Switching. - Moze really struggles when switching target (after boss 1 dies and you need to focus on boss 2). He also has to wait a full turn to reapply debuff, if a boss takes more than 9 hits to kill. - Topaz automatically switch to the 2nd boss after the first boss dies. Overall, fair amount of balance. New character 4star power-creep is reasonable. 4 Star is perfectly viable replacement but actual 5 star still has a reasonable advantage.

@fadasd Ай бұрын

He talked about it

@jonnevitu4979 Ай бұрын

that hoen ost going huge

@alejohidalgo213 Ай бұрын

Me who got Feixiao and E1 Robin before 1 single copy of Moze: I'll just stick to Topaz, thank you very much.

@rase6080 Ай бұрын

Jokes on you its all three at the same time (march included)

@RezDK Ай бұрын

I was lucky enough to get e6 moze before e1 feixiao so far i pulled him 14 times total after getting fei e2 (i'm still pulling trying to get e0 robin) moze is totally worth building at e2 and up i'd only use march over him if u already have her build or don't have his e2 he has more FUA letting fei stack faster, overall more personal dmg and provides better dmg buffs for fei👏👏

@jackmanleblanc2518 Ай бұрын

Well, my Topaz is E1S1 and Moze is only E4 so I guess the answer is always going to be her for me. That sure isnt going to stop me from using Moze though! Dude's a badass!

@alejohidalgo213 Ай бұрын

Me, seeing valid points about Moze being better at Topaz in certain scenarios: neat Also me who has Topaz E0 and got Feixiao and E1 Robin before getting E0 Moze: I'll just stick to Topaz.

@wadewilliams3046 Ай бұрын

Another worthy mention is that if you have e2 Feixaio, topaz is strictly better because her basic is counted as a follow up. This leads to more/sooner Fei ultimates than if you had moze

@adamcobb7892 Ай бұрын

Topaz for fire weakness, Moze for lightening, simple

@cvang_el Ай бұрын

Based on you being you I say we use both and put a robin on the 4th slots Let’s just clear the enemies before they even got a chance to touch us 🥰💪

@scribdfukkyu9630 Ай бұрын

respect for littleroot in the background

@lilieakgae Ай бұрын

the correct answer is march 7th

@Osangeg8xn Ай бұрын

The video is about topaz and Moze, they are compared to see the numbers. March is not in the conversation 😂

@owowonn Ай бұрын

@@lilieakgae actually, this is about moze and topaz if you’re not reading the video’s title. Hope that helps

@cheesegrated7893 Ай бұрын

@@Osangeg8xnThey’re probably talking about the question in the title

@necasa4919 Ай бұрын

@@Osangeg8xn Thing is, if you wanna be meta and go full damage, you'd pick Topaz. Take her out and March's comfortableness surpasses Moze's by a longshot, even if she's weaker. I'd rather keep an easy to use character when the next best option is not so far ahead and feels so clunky to play

@Osangeg8xn Ай бұрын

@@necasa4919 Yes I would agree with you, if the video was March vs Topaz vs Moze but this is not the case, but maybe is difficult to understand

@wikidpsycokilla Ай бұрын

Its simple, just use the one whos element the enemy is weak to. Topaz's incredible toughness bar damage plus the trace that increases damage to fire weak enemies by 15% gives her a clear advantage in that situation. If enemies resistances ever increase the elemental type advantages will only get bigger and may one day become mandatory.

@Marbeary Ай бұрын

Meta: March or Moze or Topaz Me: Jade It is actually fun to play with her with Feixiao.

@ravinraj4400 Ай бұрын

I read did thinking u meant stellar jades lol

@wyattskyy Ай бұрын

!!! I love jade fei. It was like my second fei video and is my top 3 duos for Fei.

@qingquedevout Ай бұрын

Agreed, E1 Jade + Feixiao is INSANE. With 150 speed + another 30 from Jade, Feixiao can do 3 turns in each Robin ult, overkill in MoC but very noticeable in DU and Apoc

@sirechs2264 Ай бұрын

next Moze vs March 7?

@UnbelievableLins Ай бұрын

The only problem with Moze - he is sometimes losing Robin ult forward, cause he is off battle. But this is nothing compare to TopAss E1S1 Requirements for Ratio. I, personally, run 2 fua teams rn. Ratio/Ting/March 8/Moze. Fei/Robin/Aven/TopAss E0. Both works well.

@AhaxD-r7g Ай бұрын

It s March 7th, the apex heroine, the best girl in sight.

@KITE_17 Ай бұрын

what I like about using Moze for Feixiao than Topaz is that majority of the time, Feixiao's FUAs overspeeds Numby forward where he is already 0 AVs and Feixiao is still doing FUAs, you really have to wait for Numby to FUA before you could continue bringing him up again. Which is a waste compared to Moze who can potentially do FUA twice if you meet the requirements.

@SchifferThe2nd Ай бұрын

I use Topaz for fire weakness enemies, Moze for lightning weakness enemies, Topaz if neither element is present. If both elements are present, I use Topaz just because my Topaz stat is better than my Moze's. I'm focusing on farming relics for Feixiao first.

@themusicheart167 Ай бұрын

I just put fexaio,march, moze and Gallagher (place holder for lingshaw) and just watch everything die in su.

@fadasd Ай бұрын

At 6:53 you can use the weaker attack in your ult to maybe keep the enemy alive!

@beardedcat9744 Ай бұрын

Jist of the video. Whales: Topaz Lightspenders: Moze F2P: March

@travisproo87 Ай бұрын

I busted out the wallet… But E2 Fei, March, Robin, E4 Bronya is so fun

@primarina Ай бұрын

2 accounts, pulling on feixiao and kafka and i havent gotten a single moze 😭

@nicvane8751 Ай бұрын

Background music is fire

@antibiotic4911 Ай бұрын

is march or e6 moze better? i will be using both depending on the weakness but im still curious

@iliketrainz4030 Ай бұрын

it would be a more interesting comparison once the enemy starts powercreeping characters since u are more likely to use up all of moze's stacks in those fights. because at the moment where the most random feixiao teams i have seen can still zero cycle kafka its really hard to make accurate investment predictions. it would be interesting to see then if the additional personal damage moze provides will give him the edge over topaz since the enemies right now just die too fast for him to use all stacks

@chiefplayground7822 Ай бұрын

I'm extremely conflicted about whether i should build E6 hunt march or E2 moze for my feixiao

@kmh4076 Ай бұрын

If u dont plan to pull for more Moze Eidolons, then use E6 March

@TutTuT. Ай бұрын

E2 Moze will amp Feixiao's damage more, and generate a bit more stacks for her. E6 March will probably do a bit more in terms of personal damage, and will generate more SP. She can also help deplete enemies weakness even if she's off element. Moze E2 will probably still result in higher team damage for 2 reasons: 1, amping your main damage dealer. Feixiao is the main DPS, making her do more damage is more valuable. 2, because he attacks more often, that not only means more stacks for Feixiao, but also more Robin damage. However, March is comfier thanks to her SP generation. I'd say Moze wins in most scenarios, but it's not that far off. Use whoever you like more. If Moze was E6 (or even E4) that'd be different.

@_JoeVer Ай бұрын

just build both, both are fun

@saif-gv6gl Ай бұрын

I'll personally run HMarch because more SP is always good. Moze can't really generate any because he rarely basic attacks.

@julianr8544 Ай бұрын

330 pulls, both E0-E1 for Feixiao & Robin including a lost 50/50 and somehow only E4 Moze... 💀😭bruh wth

@Airitzu Ай бұрын

Instead of comparing… why not just use them ALL?! MMFT FOR THE WIN 🎉🎉

@ciararara4759 Ай бұрын

Love march with Feixiao!

@harkb6792 Ай бұрын

Me with E1S1 Topaz and only E3 Moze after going E1 Feixaio, plan to put them both together, looking very forward, luv my FUA characters

@HazeOvO Ай бұрын

FUA spam is always fun even if it's not the best team My fav rn is Topaz, E1 Jade, Feixiao, Aventurine just for the constant hits

@artificialstyle998 Ай бұрын

I’m building Moze regardless considering he’s my only Lightning DPS outside of Serval, lighting being my fav element in games.

@imrane161 Ай бұрын

lol add march 7th then u have 3 lightning dps

@EJ-rz4ej Ай бұрын

And here I am hoping E0 moze is enough for most endgame content. I sort of gave up on the lightning element, before him.

@jonesff5297 Ай бұрын

ong am I really first? coincidence op 😂❤

@noell_me6091 Ай бұрын

I have tried to get robin E1 bc my thought process is that Robin E1 paired with Moze E3 should be better than Robin E0 with Topaz E0, right? Ik having more characters might be better so I should pull for topaz but im trying to get ropbins still

@wrath98 Ай бұрын

I was lucky and got E6 Moze while pulling for Feixiao and Robin. Still want to get Topaz but might just build Moze and go for Aventurine instead

@wyattskyy Ай бұрын

That’s awesome!

@wrath98 Ай бұрын

@@wyattskyy thanks! Love your videos btw. Do you think I should maybe just skip Topaz and Aventurine altogether? Have Feixiao, Robin, Fu Xuan and as mentioned E6 Moze

@azuremist2525 Ай бұрын

Meanwhile I got 2x Robin and 1x Clara but only 2x Moze lmao

@jamesdavid2893 Ай бұрын

Depends on the element of the enemy.

@ArchangelSunday Ай бұрын

Your Feixiao is so similar to mine. I'm at 2.7k atk (but my lc is lvl 60), 139 speed, 96% crit rate, 150% crit dmg and I'm using the exact same sets

@soulfulhuman8724 Ай бұрын

Its simple guys , if u got e2+ moze while pulling robin or feixiao or both, just dont get topaz. What should u do then ? Get rest of his eidolons when next time he runs on a banner and if u want to invest more , u can get topaz lc for moze. Disclaimer : this advice is for f2p. My experience : i pulled both robin e0 and fexiao e0 and got e5 moze in the process. I am already at 60 pity and want to save for aventurine so won't be pulling e6 now but u might get lucky and get e6 in 120 pulld just like me.

@Mountains8888 Ай бұрын

This should be topaz vs march

@AlucardAlucard-m7v Ай бұрын

Getting Topaz LC instead of Topaz herself is better for future investment. E2 Moze is enough to synergize with both Feixiao and Dr. Ratio and you'll spend less compared to getting Topaz E1 and her lightcone. Not only that, he can trigger FUA frequently too to stack up Feixiao's ult. Moze can be SP friendly since triggering his talent gives a total of 3 SP in 1 prey mark cycle, so I don't get why some people kept telling everyone in the comments he's not SP friendly when I don't have any SP problems when using him with Feixiao. Either they're coping or they have no experience on using him along with Feixiao and Dr. Ratio.

@usmanya5110 19 күн бұрын

I thought moze is sp neutral. And i wonder if it's possibly due to them killing things too fast?

@Rexy2552 Ай бұрын

March is broken with fei, bug on moze’s argument the only issue with moze is its only really pheasable on a boss because since his debuff doesnt transfer itll only be useable on a big target or else youll just kill the prey and he will just leave for a while lol

@librajava Ай бұрын

my feixiao e2,better topaz or march7?

@Duskyming160 Ай бұрын

So E6 Moze is better than Topaz E0 S0 and Topaz E1 S1 is better than Moze E6 ?

@Ultimate_Hater75 Ай бұрын

Ok but who's Fexiao's best partner in bed?

@siege_sensei Ай бұрын

@filipevitalmarinho4739 Ай бұрын

The BOY MOZE

@cobaltcorsair592 Ай бұрын

Yukong

@SyscoKiid Ай бұрын

E1 jade is my favorite and it’s not even close

@SadJab-qy7er Ай бұрын

E1 topaz vs e6 is truly not fair and she still got beaten in dmg which is embarrassing for her , yeah am not going to use her ever again and she can stay in the void

@Hannvibal Ай бұрын

Acting like an e6 4* character easy to get🤷‍♀️ its completely fair and the first enemys had light weaknesses so he got the advantage lol

@piquami Ай бұрын

🥱

@BIGCPU Ай бұрын

Very brainless

@SadJab-qy7er Ай бұрын

@@Hannvibal and acting like e1 character is easy to get🤷🏻‍♂️ wasting 360 pulls for a 10% better dmg is really dumb lol , yall wanna convince your grandma is still meta after 2 four star took her place AND DID IT BETTER 🤡 she’s still completely useless to my account lmao

@AlterAce Ай бұрын

@@SadJab-qy7erholy cope lmao

@Ikuraga Ай бұрын

I don’t think Pioneer is a a fair comparison since Topaz will do better with the follow up set. I think a better comparison would be same variables and put them on their best relic and planar sets

@wildfire_ Ай бұрын

TL;DR: March is the queen of comfort, Topaz is braindead damage and Moze is just cool. I personally find march's playstyle to be the most comfortable. unlike the other two, she is actively skill point positive, and her follow-up makes generating aureus very fun with the triple FUA. Moze is the opposite, since he needs his skill semifrequently, and gets removed from the action order (meaning he can't basic to get skill points back). You can get away with basic attack spam on Topaz but only if your willing to stick with that one enemy till he's dead, making her great for more braindead play that just boils down to murdering everything but arguably a sidegrade to Moze at higher eidolons in more strategic clears.

@maevethefox5912 Ай бұрын

By the time I have e1 Robin and e1 Topaz, is Fei's light cone just overkill? I like to get my DPS units their LC's generally but the team already seems so strong and I know there are more good characters coming up...

@Doflaminguard Ай бұрын

I have E4 Moze and E6 March. There isnt much difference aside from March being really easy to use.

@ratioeducation69 Ай бұрын

Moze is restricted to MOC only

@TheNeoDaedalus Ай бұрын

You did misplay the topaz side. You should have waited with robin ults when numby would have gone both times and that way you cancelled a numby attack both times, especially when bonanza was up. That way you also would have had the extra 5 energy and in total, one extra fei ult stack in total. Topaz would have come out ahead in that case

@wyattskyy Ай бұрын

Where does the 5 energy come from? I do get what you’re saying though

@TheNeoDaedalus Ай бұрын

@@wyattskyy Ok, so I double checked and I mixed up her A6 trace and her E2. A6 only gives energy when in bonanza, while E2 gives it always, so my bad on that one.

@apachers2807 Ай бұрын

IMO I think Moze (at least rn) is the best option mainly because he's featured on Feixiao and Robin's banner. If someone pulled for both they probably already have an E2 - E6 Moze (unless you're hella unlucky or super lucky). I think he's strong enough at E2, arguably stronger than E0 Topaz and requires less pulls in general imo.

@fancymustache3793 Ай бұрын

no hes not as strong as topaz at e6 hes comparable but otherwise no topaz is just too good. Entirely sp positive, huge 50% vulnerability debuff, can consistently follow up in quick succession and not just at most 4 times like moze and DIRECTLY benefits from follow ups

@apachers2807 Ай бұрын

@@fancymustache3793 I was saying arguably stronger with Dr Ratio in mind (where he's better because he applies enough debuffs for dr ratio). I forgot this was a feixiao video lol.

@madwind3655 Ай бұрын

Hi, it's me. I'm her best partner

@treeckosaurus238 Ай бұрын

TALK YO ISH KING 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥‼️‼️‼️

@aad4186 Ай бұрын

Idk man after that March training arc event I fell in love with her❤. I can't not use her now 😂

@giaphucnguyenphan Ай бұрын

i also want to ask the same question but for ratio instead of feixiao

@amaterasu3325 Ай бұрын

Who do you think is better for ratio, if running them at all is better than a dedicated debuffer?

@wyattskyy Ай бұрын

At e0s0 topaz only has 1 debuff. Moze at e2 has 2. Other than that prob just like this video either work interchangeably.

@amaterasu3325 Ай бұрын

@@wyattskyy thanks a lot. Was thinking of pulling for topaz for rrat team but having some reservations with moze being out as an alternate. I'm not gonna invest into topaz eidolons or sig either likely if I pull her.

@sageofsixpaths8392 Ай бұрын

Sigh another video and another cc robin ulting before numby's turn😑

@wyattskyy Ай бұрын

It’s to make sure the enhanced ult hit is buffed by concerto.

@sageofsixpaths8392 Ай бұрын

@@wyattskyy hmm makes sense, I'm just think pure stack generation in general

@o0ugi860 Ай бұрын

My march actually allows my fei to run attack boots, ive got 125 spd on fei without spd boots and march brings her up to the breakpoint.

@aomafura3374 Ай бұрын

Still 2 turn MoC 1st cycle?

@kevinl2482 Ай бұрын

@@aomafura3374yeah, you need 134 speed for two turns, 125 + 10% from March is around 137-138

@spartantraveler7251 Ай бұрын

I just use March. Don't have Top Ass and Numby and didn't build Moze yet. Besides she's free and very very cute. Should I build Moze?

@wyattskyy Ай бұрын

If he’s e2 worth building

@nothernstorm5138 Ай бұрын

@@wyattskyy ok but i have e6 moze and e6 march the hunt so which one?

@imlivid2746 Ай бұрын

Moze is probably better dmg wise. That being said, I am still gonna use March, even with E6 Moze

@spartantraveler7251 Ай бұрын

@@wyattskyy ah, okay thanks

@EJ-rz4ej Ай бұрын

Yeah. I use march 7th for feixiao too. But I am building moze as well, since I don't have any good lightning dps. E0 moze. My luck is sh*t like that.

@gabrielc.05 Ай бұрын

Topaz because getting 7 copies of the same 4* is hell in any Hoyo game

@wyattskyy Ай бұрын

DAMN RIGHT

@twigz3214 Ай бұрын

You only need E2 Moze for her to perform similar to E0 Topaz, so getting Topaz is never an upgrade to the team when you could spend the 5 star pull on Fei lc, Fei E1, Aven lc, Robin E1, or Robin lc which are all far better damage increases compared to the 0 getting Topaz does outside of the situation where they are fire weak but not lighting weak. Even in those situations though you would prefer one of the previously stated upgrades instead.

@gabrielc.05 Ай бұрын

the question was "Topaz or Moze", not Fei S1, not Fei E1, not Robin E1, and not Robin S1. those are different discussion cases and requires separate considerations that are unrelated to the question on hand. that being said, Moze at E2 offers competitive debuffing capability as Topaz, sure, but still not competitive in terms of damage. as about E6, alr stated in my original comment, ain't gonna look for 7 copies of a 4* in a Hoyo game that requires E6 to be competitive on ALL fronts with the one Topaz alr built and good to go, offers more SP flexibility, minimum attention to debuff, flexible in targeting, and even nice on auto. enemy weakness and RES coverage is a different issue altogether, because that's where Topaz and Moze (and Hunt 7th) can coexist: as teammate options for Feixiao, and that shan't be used as an indicator which is better.

@serahschar8304 Ай бұрын

E6 moze or e6 march for fei ? I cant up the two..

@333.3 Ай бұрын

Never seen somebody with 90 CR wtf

@thatartistdude4141 Ай бұрын

How about Moze vs March?

@ninthfriend3347 Ай бұрын

Why not both? Feixiao Topaz Moze for some fua shenanigans!

@Lucky-pc4tg Ай бұрын

It's March(Hunt)

@floodoodle3657 Ай бұрын

I don't think it makes sense to match Moze rotations, it would make more sense to play them both optimally. I get the idea, but wouldn't it be better to see how they compare when you actually play them the way they each should be? Or at least do the reverse as well, play him like her, which good luck with how inflexible he is. It scuffed your rotations on her. You also Robin ulted before a Numby hit, eating up some of his action, and you could have Fei ulted to advance him even further, because you overcapped her ult (even more so if you didn't Robin ult too soon), overkilled with her, and wasted a turn on her. This was an interesting enough video, but I don't think it actually highlighted the differences or pros and cons very well. One of the biggest pros to Topaz is not having to play around her debuff timing cuz the auto switch, playing around it because you want to match Moze just makes him look better instead of giving a full picture. This should be Topaz VS Moze dmg comparison, cuz that's what it is. It's like only comparing JQ and Pela by sheer numbers.