Who is STRONGER?

It's not over Nymph bros.... It's also not over Blaze bros.... both of them actually have very distinct applications even if they can still perform pretty well on each other's best application, now you just need 2 limited units for them to actually work properly on S3
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1. Out of My Hands from PGR - • 【PUNISHING GRAY RAVEN】...
#arknights

[@Storn_]

I found out after making the video that Blaze can actually kill patriot if you time her skill well enough so she applies burn to more enemies and gets more bullets back, she doesn't kill the shieldguards but the patriot kill is almost as fast as Nymph

[@Dowo2987]

I believe the best way to use it is: 0s: activate both skills 4,2s: burn triggered 8,1s: end Blaze skill (13 ammo spent on burst) 14,2s: burn ends 36,6s: burn gets triggered again from normal attacks 38,1s: activate skill again, get to spend 28 ammo at max on burst in total: 38 ammo guaranteed, 41 ammo if you can extend Although that might change slightly if Yu doesn't have max level and trust? idk if trust has significant impact. Also non-perfect timings will be a thing but there is leeway. With Ptilopsis module it should even be possible to spend up to 60 ammo if there are enough enemies to restore ammo. Oh and if you are not using Ptilopsis you could shift this around by deactivating the skill earlier or later, but that would require more enemies to restore ammo from.

[@ItsJustTeddington]

Logos: Look at what they need to mimic a fraction of my power!

[@irene8348]

Logos: Throughout heaven and earth, I alone am the honored one

[@ahmedsid1456]

Logos can't mimic what nymph and Virtuosa do to sanguinarch

[@aLonelyAndLameOtaku]

@@irene8348 Q: Who is Logos to you? Doctor: Need I say more? He’s obviously… *The Strongest.*

[@kenquanta6761]

It's the opposite, Logos CAN'T mimic what Nymph and Arturia did. He is strong tho don't get me wrong

[@aLonelyAndLameOtaku]

@@kenquanta6761 Mahoraga and Sukuna moment.

[@gribberoni]

The video: Blaze Alter and Nymph comparison The lesson: ARTURIA NATION 💪💪💪🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯

[@Vadikus2424]

STRAIGHT FACTS GIRBO MAN. SPIT YO SHI INDEED 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@hieutrang3635]

Nymph’s damage is entirely converted to elemental damage, while only a portion of Blaze’s damage is I believe, so her damage is still mostly art and thus being worse against enemies with monstrous RES.

[@strep-i2x]

and/or high DR, like Duq'arael in the example

[@LiterallyLozyl]

This tbh

[@perpa1541]

Virtuosa also buff atk stat for nyphm, and deals really good necrosis dmg, which always drains the enemy healh

[@Lukashoffmann94]

⁠@@perpa1541 Sure, but Blaze S3 would also be sad to watch without Yu.

[@_iona_2622]

@@perpa1541 the drains daage from necrosis burst, arturia can't do elemental damage and its 12k for 1 burst

[@lamiaprincess6371]

So what I'm seeing is that Blaze falls short of Nymph in situations where enemies have very high RES or DR, which favors Nymph's less potent DPS but stronger Elemental damage output; but Blaze is very good in situations where that isn't the case. I think something that also should be noted is that Arturia is a lot more powertful an Elemental Build-up support than Yu is, since Yu only provides 150 Burn build-up a hit (requiring 13 hits from Blaze's S3 in order to burst), while Arturia provides much higher Necrosis build-up (about 90 a second from just existing, 300+ with S3) and Elemental fragility and a 30% ATK buff. But what about Bobbing? /s

[@nevaraay9635]

Talulah will come home soon👀

[@JAzure-hk1sx]

We forgotten diamante and warmy also exist Also valarquin for necrosis applier, but hey, we had artura, so there's that

[@cefrinaldi8060]

When high rarity exist, low rarity are instantly forgotten. The moment Yu released, Bobbing instantly vanished from every player consciousness. Likewise when arturia arrive, only 5*niche and welfare niche remember valarqvin exist.

[@MajorLawliet]

@Well, part of the issue there is that Val is just plainly far inferior to Arturia. Not only does she generally apply Elm. Damage faster, she also turbo boosts Necrosis. Even before her Module to up her Necrosis buff to 30%+ plus Necro fragility, she was still buffing it by 20%, buffing Nymph with S3, and then dealing damage herself on top of that. Neither Warmy nor Bobbing provide such a boost (beyond Warmy adding some extra damage on burn trigger, but must be in her range), and though Bobbing applies it faster than Val on second skill, it's areas is not nearly as massive as Virtuosa's, and it doesn't last nearly as long. Burn support simply doesn't exist, since I consider Yu more of an enabler. Blaze is obviously meant to synergize, but she's not the only one that does.

[@lamiaprincess6371]

@ No that's fair because Diamante is kind of legitimately not great as an operator.

[@ronniejohn6055]

Doktah : "So, what are you now?" Sanguinarch : "Freaking showcase doll 😞"

[@egorbessonow2121]

Patriot: "First time?"

[@VinhKhanhNgo-rr5vx]

What 90% Dmg reductions do to a mf 😞

[@peterdenov4898]

Few things to consider: 1st Nymph's S3 is entirely converted into elemental damage after the status proc, Blaze S3 is Arts AOE with miniscule % of elemental damage conversion. 2nd Blaze suffers from damage loss because she needs to manually proc the status effect with 60-70% of her ammo capacity via Yu's help, as opposed to Nymph not wasting even a single shot tanks to Artura instantly inflicting the status for her. 3rd Necrosis and burn behave differently, Necrosis inflicts slow & Elemental DoT with Nec. Primal Casters doing raw “True dmg” after proc. Burn deals huge brust of Elemental dmg at once upon proc +10 second RES shred without any additional follow up. 4th the only 'Burn' based Primal Caster that behaves similarly to Nymph on a mechanical level so far is Warmy. Blaze S3 can be best described as “AOE caster machinegun”.

[@KureoZen]

Some correction. Necrosis doesn't inflict slow. It inflicts Enfeeble that reduces enemy atk

[@Dodo-mc2vm]

​@@KureoZen yeah, it's Arturia who inflicts it

[@Kaj-jl7er]

Another things to consider: Virtuosa S3 provides +30%ATK and 12,5% elemental fragility, which does also makes the usual necrosis burst deal 900 per tick instead of 800 (13500 elemental dmg total instead of 12000) and increases the dmg of both the talent 1 and the normal attacks of Nymph S3 deals, lastly Yu S3 has 45s duration/Blaze S3 has 30 SP cost 7,5 duration, which makes it possible for Blaze to use her S3 twice during Yu's S3 duration

[@Dowo2987]

@@Kaj-jl7er Did Virtuosa have module here? Blaze S3 has 7.5s duration only when using exactly 25 ammo, but you will trigger at least one burn burst within the first use so you get at least 8.1s, but probably (ideally) even more, especially seeing that she didn't get to use the full duration of the burn on patriot even with 10 ammo restored. If she had restored only 2 ammo, patriot would've still gotten about half his HP and 2/3 of the burn duration still going on, so you should really aim for extending the duration of that skill activation and not using multiple. It could actually be benefitial to activate Yu's skill, wait for Blaze's auto attacks to apply burn (about 15 attacks? so 24s) and only then activate her S3, Patriot would've definitely died here if you did that (this works because burn damage from Yu only scales with his own ATK). Well that is for killing bosses at least, with elites or waves it would be different of course, although you will definitely extend the skill duration even more in those cases. edit: Actually you do get more ammo to use on a bursted target if you activate both skills at the same time and then deactivate Blaze's skill after 27 ammo (this amount you are guaranteed) and activate it a second time later. You get at least 38 ammo to use on a bursted target this way, 41 if you can extend either skill activation, and up to 60 if you use Ptilopsis and can extend both skill durations.

[@wheelotime2581]

That's about to change when ccb3 has anti-necrosis damage tags while burn damage is left alone (for no reason at all)

[@kyarumomochi5146]

U meant anti arts and physical to make sure people get the memo that elemental is the new cool thing 😭

[@LiterallyLozyl]

​Yikes

[@Art-kk9md]

don't give them ideas

[@nousagi5837]

if anything they would let u choose between anti burn or necrosis tags

[@ismailabdulq1492]

Nymph is better on handling single boss with monstrous HP & Res due to how her skill design works with elemental damage that ignore res, while blaze beat her on crowd-elite due to her skill being AoE and able to replenish skill ammo

[@user-ft1ru8jv1z]

Tbh blaze does good at what she does. But she need yu and some fast ats charecter to works betters. Outside of force support she is great units.

[@skywalkerjohn8965]

One thing to keep in mind is 1. Blaze is aoe. 2. She has a shorter skill cycle. 3. All of these tests are for high res, high DR, not anything about Elemental Res, which surprisingly not see the light of the day yet. 4. I need to Nervouse Impairment debuff our side

[@ArcaeaDDLX]

Shorter skill cycle but without Yu's skill even up, she can only deal with trash mobs

[@skywalkerjohn8965]

@ArcaeaDDLX can say the same for Nymph

[@shadymann9468]

​@@skywalkerjohn8965 Nymph at least has Fear.

[@skywalkerjohn8965]

@@shadymann9468 she does not, nowhere on her skill said that

[@laudza]

@@skywalkerjohn8965 she's literally the 1st OP with Fear CC (her 2nd Skill)

[@kadeemfrederick6617]

Doesn't matter who's stronger. You can just use Logos.

[@8bitutopia1954]

“Who would win between you and Blaze Alter?” “Well, if she had Yu’s help then it would be troublesome.” “But would you lose?” “Nah, I’d win.”

[@TheRealApplePie]

this is what happens when you use the Warmy activator as a DPS unit... also it's funny how everyone is dismissing Yu as the activator for Blaze in the clips (me too)

[@ChocolateMilkDrinkers]

But Blaze has auntie powers so she's better

[@Livetoworship108]

She is blater (re: better) 😂

[@DeswaraAssan]

people in the comments not realizing what yu does is crazy

[@adenister]

but he's not as effective as virtuosa, who just need to exist to proc ele dmg and have a wide ass range and buff on s3

[@KureoZen]

@@adenister I mean that's her whole archetype roll. Would be bad if she's not better at something her whole existence designed to do

[@saranshbhikhta1404]

@@KureoZen well actually is s2 is similar to virtuosa s3 and his s3 is straight up upgrade to virtuosa s2 he also got penance dmg reflect but better in most case(he deals dmg+elemental dmg per sec) man they releasing one after another OP units

[@Dragor33-rg7xj]

@@saranshbhikhta1404 S1 reflect is only on skill activation, while penance reflect all the time. The talent heal only trigger if there a total of 4 ops on the battlefield, so he isnt suitable for solo unlike penance. S2 can clear a lot of mobs if he doesnt die before that and require the enemies to not be behind obstacles or unreachable to teleport. S3 require Yu to be face in front of alot of key operators, but placing him infront means you have to place him and careful so he wont die and other ops not to die from splash DMG coming, and hope theres enough range tiles for arts op. Yu require blocking to trigger burn, his S3 give other arts DMG user the ability to burn so you need to bring a team other than him to proc burn more. While virtousa she just need to attack she doesnt need to block to proc elemental DMG, or require deployment position facing left or right to give another op ability to apply elemental DMG with that huge range. Yu is still balance. The compare isnt even fair whats your definition of OP anyway? By DPS or utilitises?

[@macsenpai7006]

Let's wait for the 6-Star Burn Elemental Ritualist counterpart of Bobbing. When that happens Blazter will undoubtedly surpass Nymph. I'll bet, Talulah will be the 6-star burn elemental ritualist. 🔥

[@kyarumomochi5146]

@@macsenpai7006 Even with 100% burn application Nymph is simply stronger total damage wise unless Blaze finds lots of enemies to get ammo from. And this is ignoring the fact that Blaze cant be scaled easily while Nymph scales absurdly with aspd. Not to mention that HG isnt known to induce competition with their units most of the time, espiecelly support ones so you are looking at a years long wait here.

[@bienos]

I think we will get Eblana first tho, i hope they release Talulah in ch15

[@keinkanal7382]

The closest operator who could fill that role that has been announced would be eblana

[@ArcaeaDDLX]

​​@@bienoswouldn't she be the newest archetype tho? Like that Techno girl? Edit: replied to the wrong person, sorry

[@macsenpai7006]

@@bienos I prefer Talulah over Eblana. I simply don't like Eblana. Although Talulah herself is a mass murderer, most of her crimes happened during Kaschey's possession. Eblana doesn't even care about Reed.

[@spammerman7556]

Another thing to consider: Blaze has a shorter cycle skill than Nymph. Her S3 costs 30 SP while Nymph is 55 SP. Blaze can theoretically recast her skill a second time before Nymph finishes her skill.

[@kyarumomochi5146]

@@spammerman7556 Well for that to even matter Yu needs to recast his skill too soo

[@HuânTạPhúc]

But yu can't, blaze s3 is weak if it doesn't have yu s3

[@ArcaeaDDLX]

Spamming non-burn damage doesn't really help but okay

[@spammerman7556]

@@kyarumomochi5146 That's sadly the problem of not having good burn support. Nymph has a big advantage in this case because Virtuosa's cycle perfectly aligns with her. She'd also struggle a good amount without good Necrosis ritualist.

[@Dowo2987]

@@kyarumomochi5146 You can fit another activation of Blaze S3 into Yu S3, Yu S3 will run out before her second activation but you will trigger burn a second time before that. But this really only adds damage to one Yu S3 + Blaze cycle, the whole thing still has the long 55s cooldown.

[@VinhKhanhNgo-rr5vx]

Blalter bro, its over 😭

[@adenister]

Its not over trust the beeg best cat

[@2bi2ki]

Womp womp another power creep uni- watch the whole god damn video and read the comment section first lil bro

[@Vadikus2424]

We will NOT call her Blalter

[@Alazim7890]

She's aunty Blaze, her ages is 40-ish.

[@NA-Unmei]

We'll call her BlazEr 👍🏻

[@8bitutopia1954]

After watching this I realized Logos truly is the honored one.

[@DallyLama93]

Wow no way the new meta unit powercrept the old meta unit! This is unheard of!

[@A1D7]

Basically, now we wait for the 6* burn ritualist.

[@Shelee69]

eblana or talulah 🙏🙏🙏

[@ncrnmcn]

They clearly have the difference between an aoe and a single target unit in their skull sets, they just have the same class. Both still require their own limited unit to enable both of their damage output anyway so both are mid on their own and not everyone will be able to use them properly

[@natriz6722]

Hopefully we'll get modules that let Primal Casters deal elemental damage by themselves.

[@bluebutterfly6394]

Can't wait for guard blaze Delta Module (its very similar to vianas)

[@straypaper]

Her S2 with her ginormous ATK would shred the enemies into itty bitty ash pieces. Then we put Aak in there.

[@alasterclavis9480]

not synergy lol. blaze ori is physical damage dealer

[@razzmatazz6233]

i really think that this is one of the best mechanics they've done, primal casters needing synergy with ritualists/primal defenders to do explosive damage. we need more synergy gameplay instead of hypercarry units. but hey, that's just me

[@erickjauwerissa401]

Maybe the tittle should be change to (which tag team stronger? or what does the tag team do?) since tbh i see the comment here everyone begin to diss the arturia and nymph combo because arturia deal damage or so OR have no eyes to see Yu in there helping blaze alter. Thank you for this video since it answer my question about the usage more like if i wannna to fight big res Boss i will stay at nymph and arturia combo and while if there is 200 enemy charging at same time in front of my yard, i will blaze them. Here is a comment said its better for Yu + Lapalter for better comparison with Nymph and i will say its true since we wanna see the focused damage comparison between them,maybe if you have the unit mind make the video? (and give the link in reply?)

[@kyarumomochi5146]

@@erickjauwerissa401 What do people mean arturia deal dmg lmao, she is simply slightly amplfying necrosis burst which by its own is dealing damage. Burn is also dealing one time 7k elemental damage here.

[@erickjauwerissa401]

@kyarumomochi5146 ah yes more like she deal elemental damage* (while yu s3 more like enhance other with elemental damage)

[@erickjauwerissa401]

@kyarumomochi5146 maybe and just maybe, ppl will less complain if when the boss is there, yu use S2 skill instead s3. But there will be always something to complain if someone wants it

[@angelrodriguez-di9tw]

The only thing i get here is that, there is no trigger for burn and Bobbing is a meme, if i get the blaze im gona level her up, there is no way that i left my dear cat unleveled

[@kyarumomochi5146]

Nymph has her s2 which works perfectly alone while Blaze is borderline glued to Yu to actually do her main niche lmao

[@egorbessonow2121]

Also, why would you need Blaze if other casters can be paired with Yu on the same, or even higher level? Ops like Lappy, Goldenglow, Ceobe, Reed, etc already have strong kit, and adding burn to them can do miracles. Using them just looks more prominent.

[@kiendang2994]

Blaze s2 works just fine and pretty good without Yu tho.

[@ArcaeaDDLX]

​@@egorbessonow2121 exactly this, Blaze needs Yu but that doesn't mean Yu needs her

[@nousagi5837]

​@@ArcaeaDDLXyu may not need blaze but yu needs mi

[@kyarumomochi5146]

@@kiendang2994 "fine and good without yu" >loses 60% of its damage, resulting in dealing 40k total damage, literally comparable to 5 stars >has no res ignore >dishes her damage super fast so it cant be used conveniently and is rather fit for niche burst setups for bosses >the said setups use marcille s3 instead as marcille s3 is literally stronger blaze s3 when you ignore burn, bigger range, more dmg, stuns and faster damage. She absolutely isnt "fine" without yu, arguably on list for weakest casters if she doesnt have support lol.

[@Ch1l1C0nCarnag3]

I think against most bosses Blaze will fall short unless you force the appropriate situation for her to function, that being the boss surrounded by trash mobs she can keep burning to refresh her ammo. Without that she will almost always fall short to Nymph as a boss killer. But when it comes to reliable wave clear? Blaze has that in the bag and doesn't even need her enabler to do it.

[@kyarumomochi5146]

@@Ch1l1C0nCarnag3 A 7 second long 40k total damage wave clear? Thats not good as it sounds. Youd rather use her s3 as a burst skill to kill something fast than a wave clear.

[@Ch1l1C0nCarnag3]

​@@kyarumomochi5146 Quite a lot of elites have decent to high res and high HP meaning she might not always kill it alone and would need Yu to help her. So more than likely a solo usage for her will come down to clearing trash waves and weakening elites before they reach the frontline. But with Yu, then her usage does expand to cover elite killing and weakening bosses.

[@hekkeh9951]

Blaze skill 3 sounds like londinium canon

[@shiningnightmare5616]

The strongest is Logos End of discussion

[@ADUDUsimp69]

@@shiningnightmare5616 damn yeah, he alone doesnt need any Ritualist to max out his own damage Unlike all primal caster 🤣🤣🤣

[@sayugulnazar8704]

The best Primal Caster despite not being one 😅

[@MCX_San]

Nymph skill is like logos s3

[@DeathScythe357]

Ooooohhhh that's a lot of damage but blaze alter damn a thousand multi cast

[@dennisdacillo6516]

Elemental Damage Comparison BY = Yu and Blaze alter Elemental Burn Vs AN = Nymph and Arturia Necrosis Damage Consistent Damage = AN Burst Damage = BY Slow and Steady = AN Fast and Furious = BY Survival = BY Buff = AN Skills = BYAN Character Design = BYAN Combo = BYAN LORE Lationship = BY Both Elemental Damage do have interesting mechanic. Possible Future Elemental Damage. Earth Elemental = Permanent Flat Defense Reduction. Damage Increase for every proc. until it reaches 0. Enemies elemental HP Normal Elite 500 Boss 1500 Ice Elemental = Freeze. Range Cold Degree The lower the Elemental HP The slower their movement and attack spd. Proc. Freeze cannot be immune unable to move and take 20% more damage. Elemental HP Normal Elite 1500 Boss 2500 Nature Elemental: Field Creation. Proc. Creates a Grass tile on a random area prioritize the middle and 8 surrounding tile if the defeated enemy have Elemental proc. Operator on the grass field receives 1 shield and permanent 5%-20% Dodge small heal ,range operator will gain camouflage. Enemy on the grass tile first step will be levitate and gain 30%-50% less accuracy on the tile enemy on the tile will gradually gain enegy when miss an attack heals an operator by small amount. The grass Tile has four level. Every level increase the effect and gain a 1 shield for every levep up. The way to get the Elemental damage proc is by charged require 100 wind energy to charged from normal elite and 200 to Boss Electric Elemental: Unimmunable Mini Stun. Charge by skill hits. 20 Hits on Normal and Elite and 40 on the Boss when Proc. Every hit deals extra true damage and mini stun for 10 sec. And spread a lighning wave on 8 surrounding tile that will gave 1 hit charge on the surrounding enemy.

[@Ezekiel_Allium]

Why doesn't blaze's ammo keep refilling while fighting the sanguinarch like it does when fighting the whip nerd and his cronies?

[@WonderBelka972]

Bruh. Yu is MVP. 🥱

[@deadandcrying3222]

Blaze advantage is her pure aoe

[@reversal3628]

It's ok. I'll STICK with Blaze. ✌️🥵

[@bloxguy999]

Thankfully people are realizing that Nymph is a really good operator. I remember seeing stuff on CN release trashing her and saying stuff like she's the worst operator since Hoederer.

[@tronghungnguyen8716]

Bro im playing on cn, pp there mostly praise nymph, where do you even get that info.yeah some will said she is shit cause she need arturia but again idk how is blaze will fare on her own w/o yu

[@bloxguy999]

@@tronghungnguyen8716 I mean look at storns vids 6 months ago on Nymph and their comments. That’s what I mean when ppl trashed on the operator on CN release.

[@Aqua_Sama]

Logos: what an embarrassment

[@PrismTheKid]

Roll nymph if you're a longtime player and dont need yet another stat stick to hit the enemies with I think blaze wins overall just because her own banner has everything she needs to dominate

[@ryoukaip]

sike, i'll just put Eyja s2

[@Vadikus2424]

Using Eyja S2 in the big 2025 is crazy 😭😭

[@WTFUrNotJLo]

She'll eventually get her Delta module; she might as well at this point 😭

[@idemonicat]

just use both™

[@JAzure-hk1sx]

You can't really do that with blaze sadly, she's tied to burn applicator at any day while nymph still has her stall capability regardless of having necrosis burst or not At most you'll need 4 ops do use both blater and nymph in one squad, but at that point you'll have better bang for a buck deal with filling in with other ops

[@idemonicat]

@@JAzure-hk1sx nah ill still use both (en cant read)

[@kyarumomochi5146]

@@idemonicat Burn and Necrosis cant mix so this is literally the only time where the classic "use both" take doesnt work

[@Art-kk9md]

I guess Blaze if fine. Still sucks she can't deal burn on her own. I'll say it for millionth time - giving to skill trait that can work ONLY when you bring one certain operator just stupid. Yet immortality and skill cycles are good. Those showcases feels more like Yu showcases and not Blaze, feels underwhelming. It just feels like it's fair for Nymph to have a drawback in S3 but not Blaze fsr

[@Lanalanala]

doesnt matter to me because im getting both

[@arcnciel]

Instead of blaze alter, better use Lapland alter with Yu

[@MajorLawliet]

... Which would be better, how? She doesn't do anything with the burn that the burn wasn't doing on it's own.

[@anhdotram5947]

​​@@MajorLawlietit's better to have a global burn going around and their res reduce to 20 when burn which make her wolf easy to kill to move onto another target and also having 7k nuke going global. Also Lappland and Yu skill duration is almost close to each other, with 40s and 45s which she can utilize his skill more and trigger 2 turn of burn rather than Blaze which usually just trigger 1 burn and end her skill which wasted half of his skill 3

[@straypaper]

​@@MajorLawliet Blazter's S3 ammo system is really limiting her damage. Sure she has bonus burn damage, but after 20s it ends. Lapptop can't do nearly as much damage as Blazter does in 20s, but by the time her global S3 reaches 30s she'd already be close to Blazter, while at 40s Lapptop will outdamage Blazter by virtue of skill multipliers.

[@MajorLawliet]

@ That should depend, though. Lappland was meant to actually stand alone, and her wolves ramp up faster. Most things would be dead or near dead before the burn was there to do anything, she would mainly be superior against actual bosses. The 3/4 wolves laser focusing on that would apply burn far faster, and actually get mileage out of -20 Res. Having Yu do mostly nothing for some 40s beyond tanking just to help Lappland kill anything that isn't a boss or specific Elites with a lot of res marginally faster seems like a massive waste.

[@straypaper]

@@MajorLawliet why are you even bringing up Yu's performance? We're comparing Blazter with Lapptop, and Blazter is inferior. With Yu Blazter is inferior. Without Yu she is still inferior.

[@heataugust8965]

Can you make Nymph+Arturia/Blaze Alter+Yu/Wisadel+Logos comparison with timer? It would be great to see if any of the elemental combo can surpass 2 monster DPS.

[@Adrian-ji7oe]

Wdym adel+logos, this is not even compared🗿

[@kyarumomochi5146]

@@heataugust8965 More like nymph vs logos and wisadel and blaze is not close total damage wise. And thats a problem as its 1 unit vs 2 units, why not make it equal and give wisadel and logos gnosis/suzuran?

[@heataugust8965]

@@kyarumomochi5146 It's 2 units scenario. Primal caster need a limited support so that mean you need to waste 2 slots to enable them usable as a DPS so it's only fair if you replace those 2 slots with 2 DPS. It can be Degen & Mylnar or any decent DPS. It's weird that you think DPS come from Blaze Alter or Nymph alone when they can't reach those ceiling without a support from Arturia & Yu.

[@heataugust8965]

@@Adrian-ji7oe It's a fair comparison of 2 units vs 2 units. Otherwise you'll have to evaluate Blaze Alter & Nymph on their own without a support. Yu & Arturia cost DP to deploy and waste team slot & deployment slot.

[@kyarumomochi5146]

@@heataugust8965 Wait its Wisadel AND logos and not alone? Then its going to be logos and wis sweep unless ur attacking lappland or sangui lol 130k total damage vs 240k

[@asielra3819]

Both? Both. Both is good.

[@Lafhulior]

Why no one uses 5 star fire ritualist?

[@fuadmuklishudin9722]

Logos Satoru

[@rottenfication]

arturia our goat

[@anzui4806]

Blaze is overall better IMO. Blaze has a much lower CD and does her damage much faster, she's also virtually immortal and Yu can support her from the other side of the map unlike virtuosa who has to be much closer to nymph. Nymphy has more total damage though which makes her better in some situations

[@kyarumomochi5146]

Being immortal really isnt important here, Nymphs damage is much more consistent and scaleable than Blaze is, also Virtuosa s3 is just a much better fallout support than Yu in any way, her massive range and buffs to elemental damage easily fixes the issue of not being global already Blaze already needs 13 hits to even induce burn on enemies which means she only gets 14 shots for a single enemy unless there are more enemies around them, Nymph is much more consistent on thay regard. And i mean Nymph s2 dominates regardless lol

[@ipatchymakouli415]

You're only comparing S3 Depending on Yu makes her strictly worse. At least Nymph works without Arturia, and is much better at boss stalling in hard stages (I don't see Yu+Blaze work very well in POO if we ever get that again whereas Nymph will surely always find a use due to her CC) Or simply integrated strategies, since the difference between requiring one already strong unit at E1 and requiring 2 only enabled at E2. If you think she's better because she can kill groups of enemies faster, why even bring Blaze alter + Yu for "groups of elites" when there's already Wisadel or Logos (even Degen)? IMO she's too dependent on Yu (for now?(copium?)) And I don't see ANY content in which I'd use them; if I even bother to get both that is; rather than Nymph... Maybe there's something Yu can cook in RA, in big stages, with a big global wall helidrop Blaze alter can use here and there with a fast redeploy tool... Wait didn't I mention Wisadel earlier.

[@anzui4806]

@@kyarumomochi5146 Oh so an operator being immortal while dealing true damage doesn't matter? got it. And Yu is better than viruosa in most cases when you realize you can have more operators applying the fire debuff like lapp alter or gg or anything with range. And I say this as a nymph simp that'll pull for her

[@anzui4806]

@@ipatchymakouli415 With that logic then why ever care about any operator when you can just use wis'adel? Nymph's stall isn't even that reliable and she requires SP battery to work properly

[@kyarumomochi5146]

@@anzui4806 Being immortal doesnt matter for ranged units as you dont want them to take damage in the first place, and also Blaze isnt immortal. Anything that one shots/two shots her base form will also kill her revival as its takes 30~ seconds and doesnt have defense boost. The "true damage" is WHEN its used with Yu and you can CLEARLY SEE that even with Yus help she cant output great damage to Patriot as she wastes half of her stacks to even put boss to fall out so that she can damage them (Yus burn application is fixed, its not tied to Patriots res) Also Virtuosa works perfectly alone while Yu s3 wants support as it wastes the range otherwise. Yu is absolutely a good unit but saying he is better than Virtuosa when both have different elemental types that dont mix and arent even same placement (ranged and melee) makes little sense, Virtuosa is much more self sufficient with her s1 and s3 and allows for greater coverage of Elemental fallout overall. Nymph is absolutely better than Blaze, its not even close mate.

[@arc8218]

Logos : 🤨🤨🤨

[@bedinstall]

Diamante, obviously

[@rucellunt3045]

with Logos and Viviana please

[@Desast000]

Nymph it is then

[@HappyLovesNymph]

Nymph is perfect the way she is ❤️

[@mysteryofn2955]

Very nice to know that Blaze didn't powercreep Nymph, I love Nymph much more. ❤ On another note: Arturia is so damn hot and beautiful in this skin! 😍

[@fian92]

Between Nymph and Logos which one is stronger?

[@Lukashoffmann94]

Depends. Mostly Logos is stronger and definitely more versatile, but Nymph can beat him on bosses, if she gets to abuse her elemental dmg.

[@alasterclavis9480]

if alone logos win but with arturia nymph win

[@mohammedsalmaanjada7798]

How come blaze can't kill patriot in one skill cycle?, is it because they were less enemies around?, I've seen her do it in one skill cycle on another video quite easily

[@geroingriogory4257]

probably because of the max bullet cap? I assume they procked it all at the same time and lost some bullets

[@hieutrang3635]

In that video, Patriot was nearly in the burst state, while in this video he is not, so Blaze has to waste some of her damage to bring him to that state.

[@Paxindica96]

Also, cause nymph has arturia, and she also deals damage

[@mohammedsalmaanjada7798]

@@Paxindica96 a very stupid answer, i wasn't asking about nymph😂,do you know what they normally say"EN can't read"you fit that saying perfectly, 5 stars for you

[@kevintull3302]

​@@mohammedsalmaanjada7798And your answer is also stupid! Because you insult instead of acknowledging that he is right.

[@bloodred255]

what does she look like, some sort of caster?

[@voltrixgames4375]

I like how half the comments are just brain rotted arguments lmao

[@cerealata9035]

It do be like that.

[@mike81356]

Is Nymph worth getting if you have Virtuosa, but also Logos?

[@obsiangravel]

Matter of personal taste really

[@ismailabdulq1492]

Nymph and Logos have two very different role Nymph will beat logos when enemy having massive art res or art dodge, Logos can function just fine without Virtuosa while Nymph on the other hand really need her Nymph skill 3 which the DPS skill revolve around necrosis break but can't trigger it by herself while Logos necrosis outbreak just bonus

[@jorgesi7554]

Yesir

[@qurt5101]

Nymph S2 is stronger than the entire combo really. It breaks some bosses lol

[@kyarumomochi5146]

Nymph is the 2nd best unit coming our way after Yu id say

[@anman1]

Blater sadge

[@marcosdominguez9008]

Conclucion Nymph/Virtuosa>YU/Blaze?

[@saranshbhikhta1404]

for bosses yes but if you add someone to trigger elemental blast faster on the boss(with help of yu ultimate)then not sure

[@idmci69]

😮

[@shilohmagic7173]

Yu are.

[@frantz816]

I'm stronger

[@meenty9056]

Virtuosa is stronger.

[@jo-ri-oh8950]

Nymph, just like at this cutie ❤

[@five6001]

So it’s a skip then, not really a fan of primal casters anyway. The 6 stars needing their respective enablers, which just so happen to be limited, isn’t helping the archetypes case.

[@shilohmagic7173]

Wait, why doesn't blaze get support like Nymph did?

[@Storn_]

Yu is literally in every clip….

[@gribberoni]

Yu is literally in every clip....

[@SilverScratch]

Yu is literally in every clip....

[@fateexoo7511]

Yu is literally in every clip....

[@ericye2355]

Yu is literally in every clip... .

[@안시즈]

OOOUWWWWWGGGGGGHH NYMPH SOO SMOL YET POWERFULL 😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@Engitsu]

Finally a respectable comment in this disaster of a comment section

[@ElangTitoPersada]

Nymph and Blaze: 🤝🤝 need support from limited character

[@ArcaeaDDLX]

People in here don't really seem to understand that Blaze's damage is thanks to Yu's s3

[@Engitsu]

as well as Nymph damage is thanks to Virtuosa, why do you even assume people don't understand any of it lmao

[@ArcaeaDDLX]

@Engitsu I'm going off of it through the many comments of this video, they do know Nymph has Virtuosa because both have been released for a while now but Yu and Blaze are still new, hence my comment

[@ayyjay1575]

Bl'en

[@giahuytran720]

Bro who the fuck use Nymph s3 to clear out the trash mob 😭😭😭

[@ADUDUsimp69]

Arturia carried Nymph hard... Remember, Arturia s3 help necrosis burst damn fast and buff status(ATK) ... Don't forget her talent too More of that, Arturia is on her module 😏 Blazer will get same result or better depends if we get 6* Burn Ritualist

[@Storn_]

Yu is there too

[@OneAndromeda559]

What do you think Yu is

[@ADUDUsimp69]

@Storn_ bruh, Yu s3 vs Arturia s3 + talent + module, still Arturia is better on build up elemental burst...

[@ADUDUsimp69]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/d6DEYpywnqeaebMsi=Bm5c6_vi-gvA9vGJ Like this one, 0:35 Arturia s3 + Module alone damaged patriot half his HP 🤣

[@Storn_]

@ not my problem the only good burn applied isn’t on the same level as Arturia and it’s also not that simple, Arturia also needs to be very close to nymph and both of them need to be close to enemies a lot of the time while with Yu’s range and blaze immortality you get much more flexibility on where to deploy them as you can see on the second situation I needed to use shinning to keep nymph and virtuosa from dying while blaze just stood there unfazed

[@thundercat7809]

Conclusion: Burn elemental kinda ass compared to necrosis that can deals big & constant true dmg.

[@lamiaprincess6371]

Nah, that's not really the conclusion here. It's more the differences in how everything works. The Burn burst actually is on a shorter cycle than Necrosis burst, but Arturia is a much stronger support than Yu is, and Nymph's skill is more designed for consistent elemental damage while Blaze is more for burst arts. They're both good skills but they do different things.

[@alasterclavis9480]

is because blaze alter realy need yu for her maximal damage output. meanwhile for yu you can get combo with any arts damage dealer. some vid showcase yu can make goldenglow and lappland alter become boss killer

[@shiningnightmare5616]

​@@lamiaprincess6371 I agree with this Virtuosa is a unit that's both capable of dealing good necrosis damage on her own and being a great supporter of it, even with just one skill (S3) Whereas Yu's S3 is only meant to be a supportive mean, which means he can't really deal the burn damage effectively by himself That would be his S1 or S2 It's a way to slightly balance things out since the range is by design, infinitely straight and he also offers 3 block

[@shiningnightmare5616]

The only correct conclusion is that at the state that it is right now, Elemental damage is such a clunky concept and should've been polished and added with wider rosters first before doing not one, but TWO 6* Primal Caster (a unit who inherently relies on others to proc the elemental first)

[@ViniBiniWini]

​@@shiningnightmare5616true, the fact that the only reliable support they need for elemental damage burst is gatekeeped by 'limited' label is annoying as hell