Who is the Best Player of ALL TIME in MLBB?? 👀🔥

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Күн бұрын

One of the biggest debates of the year: who deserves to be in the top 10 spot of Best MLBB Players? As we go into the playoffs of MPLI 2023, we asked a few pro MLBB players and personalities who they feel is the GOAT for MLBB.
Which pro gamer do you agree with?
Thank you to KyleTzy, Bennyqt, KarlTzy, MP the King, Raa, Hoon, Aeterna, Clara Mongstar, Xorn, Mirko, Momochan, Kimpoy, Rose, Pheww, Demonkite, Maro & Bestplayer1 for joining us!
Hosted by Wolf Nopueto (@/wolfcasts)
#mlbb #mpli #mpli2023 #goat

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@dwaeji_07
@dwaeji_07 10 ай бұрын
It's good to see Karl, Pheww, VeeWise and Kairi being mentioned. They all deserved it. Plus they brought a lot of pride in PH from the MLBB tournas.
@ZEKEEEQT
@ZEKEEEQT 9 ай бұрын
Kairi doesn't deserve it lol gtfoh
@futurpilotopaul
@futurpilotopaul 2 ай бұрын
Yes and they're all in the hall of legends Which is great to cement thier legendary career ❤
@davenstone2393
@davenstone2393 10 ай бұрын
Karl, phew and vee are on the top, achievements, impact in international community and skills. Kairi might be the best right now but its still along way for him to say he is the goat
@jangnoise9709
@jangnoise9709 10 ай бұрын
Yes I agree,kai best player for right now,but for all time,karl and pheww
@riri2803
@riri2803 7 ай бұрын
@@jangnoise9709 Kairi is the best player in Indonesia. Against PH team, he aint that.
@Sy8mir
@Sy8mir 10 ай бұрын
Im not Mielow! Hahaha hoon hoon😊
@blackleg4789
@blackleg4789 10 ай бұрын
"ALL TIME" Karltzy, Pheww or VW are the only choices on this debate. And take note even Moonton recognized Karltzy as The GOAT.
@Emyyyy23
@Emyyyy23 10 ай бұрын
Karltzy's achievements will speak for itself, Like being the M2 and M4 champ with 2 different play style, he Won M2 using carry jungler and In M4 he is using utility jungler. END OF ARGUMENT no one comes close
@kennadrian673
@kennadrian673 9 ай бұрын
Surprising how no veewise and kairi meat riders isn't arguing with you
@Emyyyy23
@Emyyyy23 9 ай бұрын
@@kennadrian673 yeah but right now i think 3 individuals is competing for the GOAT status, and for its Karltzy, Pheww and Flap
@s57lv
@s57lv 9 ай бұрын
ong
@kennadrian673
@kennadrian673 9 ай бұрын
@@Emyyyy23 ribo is still the goat for having the most unique achievements but looking at his career now, he will most likely to be overtaken already.
@riri2803
@riri2803 7 ай бұрын
@@kennadrian673 Karl over Ribo as Karl is miles better than Ribo. The best player of all-time is KarlTzy.
@KnyawPoe-hd5th
@KnyawPoe-hd5th 10 ай бұрын
For me is Mielow from TOB because he is better than all indo exp, he join TOB and TOB win NACT for the first time.He make history for NA and TOB for getting out of group stage for the first time in sea and first NA team to get knock out in playoff by Cambodia 😂 the GOAT Mielow 🐐
@vincenttm880
@vincenttm880 10 ай бұрын
lmaooo
@chunkamei2077
@chunkamei2077 10 ай бұрын
My goat
@gracebl2162
@gracebl2162 10 ай бұрын
😂
@jeffreedom29
@jeffreedom29 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@NwasnigSnig
@NwasnigSnig 10 ай бұрын
Mielow with 4 noobs
@Eecky
@Eecky 10 ай бұрын
The goat debate ended as soon as mielow steps on stage
@gracebl2162
@gracebl2162 10 ай бұрын
After all the controversial statements made by Mielow he definitely outshined everyone hahahaha
@mangjose7027
@mangjose7027 10 ай бұрын
Kairi has a good resume but he still has a lot to prove. So I think for now, It's Carl because of his achievements.
@PiaGia-ld8ue
@PiaGia-ld8ue 10 ай бұрын
winning in id doesnt say much either lol in ph he didnt win any says much about the competitive diff between the two regions, put onic in mpl ph I bet they'd be below top 4
@keneisolozzz7686
@keneisolozzz7686 10 ай бұрын
​@@PiaGia-ld8ue below top 4? Who won MSc? Guess they beat non Phillipines teams only lol give credit where it's due PERIOD!!!
@Lazy14000
@Lazy14000 10 ай бұрын
​@@keneisolozzz7686they won't last to teams who can adjust to playstyles like Omega, Veewise Blck or RSG with Demonkite
@PiaGia-ld8ue
@PiaGia-ld8ue 10 ай бұрын
@@keneisolozzz7686 defeated a careless echo and blck with two rookies? lmao still below top 4 winning MSC is just a fluke lol
@PiaGia-ld8ue
@PiaGia-ld8ue 10 ай бұрын
@@keneisolozzz7686 Onic's just looking strong in ID coz everyone's below MDL ph level
@riri2803
@riri2803 10 ай бұрын
KarlTzy is the BEST player of all-time. It's not just because of his achievements, but because of his skills. His achievements are there because of his skills and how good he plays. The guy is the leader and the best player in all of his championship teams. He's the best hypercarry of all-time and now the best utility jungler of all-time. Leads MPL PH in all-time kills, Double Kills, Triple Kills, and Maniacs. Leads MPL PH in all-time Turtle and Lord takes. Whether getting kills or securing objectives, the guy is NUMBER ONE. Perfect combination of insane skills, team success, and individual achievements. Plays in the STRONGEST REGION, and the BEST PLAYER IN THE STRONGEST REGION. No one is really close.
@juswatv94
@juswatv94 10 ай бұрын
Pinoy fried
@riri2803
@riri2803 10 ай бұрын
@@juswatv94 Much better than Indo fried. MPLI early exits.
@2ez4Kai
@2ez4Kai 10 ай бұрын
@@riri2803ur statement of Kairi looking strong playing in the weaker region makes sense and would apply to a lot of teams like for example: TOB looking strong in NA but would look mediocre at BEST internationally or let’s say MPL PH. However ur statement is invalid towards ONIC since ECHO and BLCK were not able to beat ONIC at MSC. ONIC in the S11 meta was unbeatable. ONIC was simply the best team during the S11-MSC meta so it wouldn’t matter regardless of what region they played in lol.
@riri2803
@riri2803 10 ай бұрын
@@2ez4Kai S11 meta was still the Echo M4 meta. You're talking about MSC meta when the meta shifted drastically and the emblems got revamped. It happened after S11 and only a few weeks before MSC.
@plc9359
@plc9359 10 ай бұрын
“No one is really close?” Veewise has the most trophies in MLBB history. So that’s arguable. Greatest player is karltzy, greatest duo is veewise. Karltzy adapts to the meta, veewise ceates the meta.
@Pierre359
@Pierre359 10 ай бұрын
If you talk about Goat then it's definitely Karl but the best jungler right now is kairi imo
@jeromegunatisi2005
@jeromegunatisi2005 10 ай бұрын
Agree but topic is goat
@technoswitch3296
@technoswitch3296 10 ай бұрын
It's meilow for all period
@mr.nobody5049
@mr.nobody5049 10 ай бұрын
No it's mobazane according to mr gif 😂
@Pierre359
@Pierre359 10 ай бұрын
@@mr.nobody5049 agreed🤣🤣
@dreamcatcher_13449
@dreamcatcher_13449 10 ай бұрын
the question is subjective,so any answer for yourself is correct,,hahah
@ml_records4975
@ml_records4975 10 ай бұрын
When the question is "who is the best player of ALL TIME?" and some said Kairi - I think he is the best player in This Time but not Best Player of All Time Yet. In terms of achievements and skills, I have KarlTzy and Pheww as a contender.
@msgeen
@msgeen 10 ай бұрын
MSC and Snapdragon alone don't make you a GOAT. It's the culmination of achievements and influence you set for years that makes you the best player of all time. Karl, Pheww, and VeeWise are the strongest contenders for this.
@Minazuki22
@Minazuki22 10 ай бұрын
Are you too scared to mention kairi? You are talking about kairi yeah?
@malcampovincekhalilp.6719
@malcampovincekhalilp.6719 10 ай бұрын
There's Ribo as well man
@Minazuki22
@Minazuki22 10 ай бұрын
@@malcampovincekhalilp.6719 please lets keep all the jokes aside when we r on a serious topic.
@gamingwithsamaritanarmy4705
@gamingwithsamaritanarmy4705 10 ай бұрын
Agree with all but accept that veewise who betrayed mlbb and a goat player who can play only support as a roamer😂😂😂😂
@BeatMaxZ
@BeatMaxZ 10 ай бұрын
it is so sadddd because Moontoon doesn't want to recognize VeeWise achievements
@djbbybnz4444
@djbbybnz4444 10 ай бұрын
Not to hate on anyone and don't get me wrong. But the question is OF ALL TIME. Not the best RIGHT NOW. You can't say a player is THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME just base on one season, tournament, even a year.
@VoydVelasco
@VoydVelasco 10 ай бұрын
If Bren win M5, there is no doubt that Pheww is the GOAT. He is cosistent even he play since season 1.
@fmmc833
@fmmc833 10 ай бұрын
agreed but kairi n onic gonna win this M5
@brixflores4178
@brixflores4178 10 ай бұрын
@@fmmc833 not when they struggled against that same Geekfam, i lose hope for them
@fmmc833
@fmmc833 10 ай бұрын
@@brixflores4178 in what way did they struggle against geek?
@fmmc833
@fmmc833 10 ай бұрын
@@brixflores4178 well lose your ur hope now n be surprise later.. in onic theres 3 current best player in mlbb right now and thats kairi,sanz n kiboy.. i mean its not that hard to predict whos goin to take that m5
@meijiegaming.998
@meijiegaming.998 10 ай бұрын
@@fmmc833😂😂😂😂😂 dont cry later. All teams has eyes on ONIC ID. Its a big big pressure to Coach Yeb. If they not win in M5 i think they will not get the M6. Because this is the very pressure year for ONIC ID and they know it. Thats why they not go to MPLI to focus in M5. They 10000% focus and if they not win the M5 i dont know what Kairi and coach Yeb doing after that loss. They have the top 4 tier player in INDO ID, and they have the best jungle RIGHT NOW. I dont know i bet in ONIC in MSC and i won but this M5 i dont know man. I hope but i dont really know whos gonna win.
@hanzo2238
@hanzo2238 10 ай бұрын
I remember watching karltzy before he was a midlaner then i saw him again on m2 carrying his team to victory, i missed how he was so good on assassins before 😢
@DryEther
@DryEther 10 ай бұрын
He's still good fkin consistent goat kairi not even close till now
@solutionorange2224
@solutionorange2224 10 ай бұрын
Yah for now kairi assasins too good
@AZ-cj8du
@AZ-cj8du 10 ай бұрын
wdym " he was so good on assassins before"????...he still is
@hanzo2238
@hanzo2238 10 ай бұрын
@@AZ-cj8du karltzy uses utility jungler now, i wish funnel strategy would come back as meta so we can see karltzy uses assasin again ☺️
@Tach2134
@Tach2134 10 ай бұрын
now kairi is better. @@DryEther
@meijiegaming.998
@meijiegaming.998 10 ай бұрын
Guys we know that, we can’t pick KAIRI when it comes to GOAT topic. But the best jungler right now YES.
@JijiFor
@JijiFor 10 ай бұрын
In my opinion, GOAT has done a lot of achievements in the past major tournaments with great contributions in the team, so I will go with either OhMyVeenus or Karltzy.
@krisg8403
@krisg8403 10 ай бұрын
If you talk about achievements, it's Pheww
@harvs14.
@harvs14. 10 ай бұрын
Yeah kairi is definitely the strongest jungler now. But if we're taking about achievements it's either karl, pheww,, veewise
@aziqadly1717
@aziqadly1717 10 ай бұрын
It's Ribo dude he won m2 seagames msc...
@MR.X-uy2nl
@MR.X-uy2nl 10 ай бұрын
Lemon alien bang
@wesleytalidano1918
@wesleytalidano1918 10 ай бұрын
@@MR.X-uy2nl yeah lemon alien jupiter no 1 kagura bang 😂trash player
@TitoHopia
@TitoHopia 10 ай бұрын
KARLTZY, no questions. Already has 2 M-series championships.. kairi not even close😂
@draca941
@draca941 10 ай бұрын
kairi No achievement and No champion in MPL phil hahahaha
@replied631
@replied631 10 ай бұрын
Momocha really loves the queen
@ice.lex3526
@ice.lex3526 10 ай бұрын
IF KARLTZY MANAGES TO WIN THIS MPLI 2023 TITLE, THE ONLY TITLE LEFT FOR HIM TO ACHIEVE WOULD BE THE MSC TITLE.
@vincentiusliemawan1735
@vincentiusliemawan1735 9 ай бұрын
kairi literally has msc,mpli 2x if he won m5 then all is done
@jincbf
@jincbf 9 ай бұрын
​@@vincentiusliemawan1735 dont foget about snapdragon aswell, treble incoming
@riri2803
@riri2803 7 ай бұрын
@@vincentiusliemawan1735 KarlTzy has two World Championships, 2 MPL titles in the strongest region, and a SEA Games Gold Medal plus multiple MVPs. What 'done' are you talking about?
@yellyhayce9612
@yellyhayce9612 10 ай бұрын
off the top of my head, this would be the top 5 and kairi would be in the 6-8 range. He is amazing, probably the best player at the moment, but he needs to have those international achievements (m series, msc, or sea games) 1. Karltzy 2. Pheww 3. OhMyV33nus 4. Wise 5. Ribo
@PiaGia-ld8ue
@PiaGia-ld8ue 10 ай бұрын
same thoughts
@MR.X-uy2nl
@MR.X-uy2nl 10 ай бұрын
Mana lemon bang
@wesleytalidano1918
@wesleytalidano1918 10 ай бұрын
@@MR.X-uy2nllemon and what achievements? Any mseries msc? Hahahaha only local
@wesleytalidano1918
@wesleytalidano1918 10 ай бұрын
@@MR.X-uy2nlover praised lemon not even that good of a player 😂what international achievement? Indo indo believes such sweet lies bro lemon is not that good amateur player even casual player in ph is better than him lol
@MR.X-uy2nl
@MR.X-uy2nl 10 ай бұрын
@@wesleytalidano1918 lemon juara dunia sea coc, juara mpli, juara mpl id 4x 😎
@jumangekyo1667
@jumangekyo1667 10 ай бұрын
As Malaysian i admire Lemon since i saw his kagura
@healermobius
@healermobius 10 ай бұрын
They didn't understand the question hahaha
@johnpaulpanton6595
@johnpaulpanton6595 10 ай бұрын
First of all, kairi is one hell of a player even he was still in the Philippines. Even though he didn’t win any MPL Ph titles even after he transferred to different teams, A lot of potential was seen in him that’s why Onic Indonesia wanted so bad to import him. in fact I think he is the best there is that ever step foot in the MPL Indonesia even though he is a Filipino. However, when kairi was still playing in the Philippines he wasn’t able to carry his team to the finals even though back then it was still during the assassin meta, which was his favorite heroes to choose, but after he transferred to Indonesia he is able to consistently win in the MPL Indonesia. I think that speaks a lot how he is able to shine when the competition is not as intense or as competitive compared in the Philippines.
@raissaw3080
@raissaw3080 10 ай бұрын
From your statement, isn't it possible that it means that he just fits better in his new team (onic Id) in which he is able to synergize more with them and that led to him being able to shine even more and show off all of his skill? Cause even in msc and snapdragon, they were able to defeat all the top PH team as well, so I think it might be possible that his gameplay and carry style is more fit with onic id
@riri2803
@riri2803 10 ай бұрын
@@raissaw3080 No. Kairi was able to look 'that' good because he's playing in a weaker region. Against PH teams, he looks beatable and controlled. Against ID teams, he looks like a god. See the difference?
@raissaw3080
@raissaw3080 10 ай бұрын
@@riri2803 What do you mean? Kairi won against top PH teams during msc and snapdragon, I personally think he just improved from when he was still playing in PH, I'm not saying he can just outright beat all ph teams if he goes back to playing in PH but the fact that he can beat top PH teams in recent competitions, I think it's safe to say he definitely is up there with the best players
@riri2803
@riri2803 9 ай бұрын
@@raissaw3080 Bruh, didn't you read? Yes, they won against PH teams but Kairi didn't look as good as he looked in MPL ID, mainly due to the level of competition. He needs his teammates to step up against PH teams compared to MPL ID where he can solo carry.
@raissaw3080
@raissaw3080 9 ай бұрын
@@riri2803 bro honestly I don't even want to argue with a random person on the internet, I don't even know kairi personally to want to defend him that much, I just personally think his skill still looked pretty damn good in msc when he fought against ph teams, I agree that he needs his teammates when fighting against ph teams, but I think he still played damn well in msc, currently in M5 he is playing not as good though so far so eh
@plokplok307
@plokplok307 9 ай бұрын
KarlTzy.. he is a winner wherever team he goes that shows how versatile he is and can adapt what environment he have while Veewise only dominate with the same team..true greatness dominate wherever he goes and what ever team he got.
@jvespelita7497
@jvespelita7497 10 ай бұрын
For me karltzy because kairi when he play here in PH he just an ordinary jungler the reason why he looks so good because he is playing in weak region thats on my observation
@adaymarco6318
@adaymarco6318 10 ай бұрын
yeah, demonkite owned him in his last season in mpl ph
@NSKTinnoblez
@NSKTinnoblez 9 ай бұрын
Explain why he dominated echo(with karltzy) before if he plays on a weaker region? Doesnt make sense
@riri2803
@riri2803 9 ай бұрын
@@NSKTinnoblez Dominated Karl? Kairi almost always loses to Karl in terms of the jungle battle back in PH.
@pasta...
@pasta... 10 ай бұрын
I think they misunderstood the question the interviewer ask who's the best all time not current best
@blackleg4789
@blackleg4789 10 ай бұрын
Time has been bias on Kairi in this debate😂 your boy hasn't won any M-series yet. Yeah we could say they are the strongest team this season but so is BL in M3 seasons, Bren in M2, they are dominating too in that time so...
@dusterinoman
@dusterinoman 10 ай бұрын
the arguement of who's the best player of all time is this: who will we decide to play against an alien who threatens to destroy earth and will all depend on a mobile legends battle
@moonconsulta
@moonconsulta 10 ай бұрын
KarlTzy is the current G.O.A.T. but if Phew (BREN) wins M5, he becomes the clear G.O.A.T. But honestly, right now, Kairi is the best MLBB player on the planet (regardless of positions or regions).
@danielvanlalhruai4816
@danielvanlalhruai4816 9 ай бұрын
But then Pheww and Flap will be 2 times m champion while Karl is already 2 times. So I would say If Bren win this Pheww and Flap will be exactly on Karl's level
@fjasonortiaga
@fjasonortiaga 10 ай бұрын
The question was who is the best of ALL TIME ..not the current best player but were talking their whole career ..including the achievements and skills ..Karltzy won 2 World Championships while kairi doesnt but if he can won the M5 and use another jungler heroes aside of assasins, then maybe we can have a debate.
@Amanrio7
@Amanrio7 10 ай бұрын
Let’s think this through guys. Only looking at pure raw skills no one beats kairi but if we look at achievements no one beats Karl or you could say veewise as well so the obvious answer is Mielow the “GOAT”.
@PiaGia-ld8ue
@PiaGia-ld8ue 10 ай бұрын
prime Karltzy > prime Kairi
@MR.X-uy2nl
@MR.X-uy2nl 10 ай бұрын
Lemon alien bang
@2ez4Kai
@2ez4Kai 10 ай бұрын
@@PiaGia-ld8uethe season Karl won M2 where it was hypercarry meta was the season Kairi DEBUTED lol. Right now in the current and recent past metas, assassins take way more skill and are harder to pull off. Assassins were way easier to play back in the M2 meta. Karl debuted seasons before Kairi did so he reached his prime earlier. Although Kairi hasn’t won M-series yet, skillwise I’d go for him INDIVIDUALLY. Team player and GOAT, I’d have to agree it’s Karl. However PRIME? It’s debatable.
@riri2803
@riri2803 10 ай бұрын
@@2ez4Kai Kairi looks the strongest because he is in a weaker region. He never dominated like this when he was in PH and that's because the competition was crazy. He's always been behind Karl, and still is.
@2ez4Kai
@2ez4Kai 10 ай бұрын
@@riri2803Kairis 2nd season playing jungle (S7 don’t count since Hate was jg) in MPL PH, he was runner up and eventually runner up in M3. That was PRIME BLCK meta which counters ONIC PH. He definitely has huge potential where at that time Karl didn’t have much success at all LMAO. However in S9, the meta took a huge shift which impacted Kairi and Karl’s playstyle and they both didn’t have much success. Kairi was insane with that for his first couple seasons. He is now much more IMPROVED and has gotten a better team lol. Some ppl get better over time, some get worse. ONIC won MSC but I’m not delusional and know that MPL PH > MPL ID. ONIC is just an anomaly that improved and beat the best PH teams playing against weaker opponents in ID lol. If ONIC was in MPL PH, they would definitely be top 3.
@HatoriYamato08
@HatoriYamato08 9 ай бұрын
Aside from all time pheww i think this time is kairi on and Karl.also veenus the meta game changer specially for support heroes.
@himig7944
@himig7944 10 ай бұрын
Current best player must be Kairi? But we are talking about the GOAT? Either Pheww or Karltzy.
@JeffreyBalanay-gf8ls
@JeffreyBalanay-gf8ls 10 ай бұрын
Kairi is really the strongest jungler now, but by achievement karltzy
@draca941
@draca941 10 ай бұрын
But kairi no MPL phil.champion or achievement in the phil.😂😂😂
@etaw4506
@etaw4506 Ай бұрын
Karltzy not only on achievements but he is a consistent reliable gifted versatile player
@jhonpaultenorio4556
@jhonpaultenorio4556 10 ай бұрын
Greatest of all time These are their unique achievements Ribo - won all major tournaments Karltzy - 2time m series Phew - 3 time mpl-ph and 2 time seagames Veenus and wise - 3time mpl-ph 3 time final apearance in m series(won1) The only thing ribo is still in the list because all of the top 4 doesnt have msc champ I saw someone still commenting lemon, who doesnt have msc and m series lol
@raiyan
@raiyan 10 ай бұрын
Definitely for me either Phew, Ribo, Jaypee or Hadji They have achievement, multi role that can play almost any role effectively and can play any hero
@bonggwapo6662
@bonggwapo6662 10 ай бұрын
no one mentioned Doc Ribo 😢 the real Goat -MSC champ 2018 -M2 Champ -Sea games Gold medalist -2 time MPL ph champ
@Ninetyninegaming99
@Ninetyninegaming99 9 ай бұрын
People don’t understand the best jungler and the best player of all time ! It’s literally two different things.
@peppa_pink
@peppa_pink 10 ай бұрын
Momochan really loves OhmyVeenus 😊
@Niv215
@Niv215 10 ай бұрын
How can they claim it's Kairi when he hasn't won a single M-championship? While he's arguably the best jungler in the game "now" (although were talking 'OF ALL TIME'), his achievements don't compare to Karl, VeeWise, or Phew.
@DRIC159
@DRIC159 9 ай бұрын
most of the people who answered kairi definitely didn't understood the question
@RoyTravels
@RoyTravels 10 ай бұрын
Veenus. Matalino nagiisip talga Edward. Hanap memorize niya mga gamit niyang hero Wise. Unique style. Lagging siya nauuna sa mga hero na pwede lng pang jungle Actually buying team ng blacklist.
@whin0079
@whin0079 10 ай бұрын
xorn has sense of humor.. anyone who pick karl is in the right mind.. the question is who is the greatest mlbb player of all time😅
@NeoMLBB
@NeoMLBB 4 ай бұрын
most Filipino players who are considered GOAT like Ribo, Pheww, and Karltzy actually came from just one team and used to play as a team which was BrenEsports and now APBren, they all came from their M2 lineup
@stargenes03
@stargenes03 10 ай бұрын
Thats it, no one mention Ribo. Most of pros know that its either Karltzy, Phew, and Veewise base on impact and achievements.
@nurazispratama
@nurazispratama 10 ай бұрын
Bro, I'm from Indonesia and admit that currently there are many PH players who are very good, while the Indonesian players are overrated. In my opinion, the best players in Indonesia are Oura (M1 MVP) or Udil (you still remember at MSC 2019, this kid said "it's easy man"). When Clara part says Lemon, it's a big CRINGE. Without debate the GOAT is Karltzy. But for now Kairi so much potential is everyone's dreams he's handsome, smart, high mechanic, calculation.
@hasbisyahbani9186
@hasbisyahbani9186 10 ай бұрын
Because indo player especially evos squad in m1 got retired or have a downgrade performance. Big respect for ph players for having consistency in every era. But i do know why bude said lemon, because she likes him haha. Bias, but its okay
@PiaGia-ld8ue
@PiaGia-ld8ue 10 ай бұрын
if there is someone on par with Karl, it would be Pheww, VeeWise, Ribo, Flap, Hadji, Edward or Oheb not Kairi lmao
@MR.X-uy2nl
@MR.X-uy2nl 10 ай бұрын
Lu penyefong ph harusnya milih lemon
@wesleytalidano1918
@wesleytalidano1918 10 ай бұрын
@@MR.X-uy2nlshow his achievements first in international 😂if there’s none then go zip his pants up when ur done
@MR.X-uy2nl
@MR.X-uy2nl 10 ай бұрын
@@wesleytalidano1918 lemon juara dunia sea coc >>>>> m series
@AZ-cj8du
@AZ-cj8du 10 ай бұрын
People are sleeping sooooo hard on Pheww imo....Fun fact, He and Karltzy are the only players that has won every class A-S tournaments in the MLBB world....Those 2 are now on tie...whoever wins the MPLI or M5 will be the clear GOAT
@tingomlungnyei4598
@tingomlungnyei4598 10 ай бұрын
Not MSC yup the rest theh won all..
@vincentiusliemawan1735
@vincentiusliemawan1735 9 ай бұрын
well kairi has msc,mpli 2x in a row, if he won this m5 probably he is the goat
@Kazunori1104
@Kazunori1104 10 ай бұрын
For me Pheww has a slight ahead over Karl for being the GOAT. 2 Gold Medal Sea games 1 M World Champ 1 IESF World Champ 2 MPL PH Champ From Core to Gold to Midlane. Only GOAT things 🐐
@riri2803
@riri2803 10 ай бұрын
Karl is the better player though. Plus lots of championships as well.
@etaw4506
@etaw4506 Ай бұрын
Karltzy is a gifted versatile player in any team that is one of their difference
@etaw4506
@etaw4506 Ай бұрын
Karltzy is a gifted versatile player in any team that is one of their difference
@fjasonortiaga
@fjasonortiaga 10 ай бұрын
The fact that theyre Goat comes from the Philippines means its not the end of Ph era
@scarshadowofficial
@scarshadowofficial 10 ай бұрын
Well, it's indeed KarlTzy since he's a 2x M series champ. A real GOAT. 🐐
@21_star6oy
@21_star6oy 10 ай бұрын
1:39 😳😳🤣🤣
@joshuaagorilla7926
@joshuaagorilla7926 10 ай бұрын
Kairi is fantastic but he just recently showed off his skill. on the other hand Karltzy is still the two time M series champ
@iTwist24
@iTwist24 10 ай бұрын
No one mentioned "Ribo" hahaha it's like they all chose best player "now" not "all time". Anyway, yes, Karltzy it is!
@skyleap2243
@skyleap2243 10 ай бұрын
Kairi is not yet in the GOAT topic. Stats-wise and achievement-wise, its KarlTzy. Like what Rose said, "because he's the GOAT". But don't get me wrong, Kairi is undeniably one of the strongest junglers rn.
@Villas_clarkkent
@Villas_clarkkent 5 ай бұрын
Dude really forget about RIBO from BREN M2. But karltizy winning the M4 outstand RIBO.
@NeoMLBB
@NeoMLBB 4 ай бұрын
Pheww, being the mentor of karltzy when they were still team mates
@glorytahj
@glorytahj 10 ай бұрын
Saying Kairi is crazy 😭
@PiaGia-ld8ue
@PiaGia-ld8ue 10 ай бұрын
truth, tho I'm a Filipino Kairi's not there yet Karl Pheww Ohmyvee Wise Ribo
@Sxth.
@Sxth. 10 ай бұрын
He is on the way but it’s too early
@nooneknows4911
@nooneknows4911 10 ай бұрын
Mahihirapan kumuha si kairi ng sibol kasi d nmn sya pede sumali sa dream team ng indo kasi d nmn sya indonesian kaya malayo pa sya sa katotohanan para matawag n goat
@plc9359
@plc9359 10 ай бұрын
@@PiaGia-ld8uethe top 5 you mentioned are the best players based on achievements. Facts.
@PiaGia-ld8ue
@PiaGia-ld8ue 10 ай бұрын
@@plc9359well one's achievements says a lot about his skills? right? and Karl did his 2 m series with 2 diff teams
@vipmultifandomygstan7657
@vipmultifandomygstan7657 8 ай бұрын
If you see the stat it should be karltzy,pheww,venus and wise they always in top 4 team of mpl and m series
@dwighthilario1640
@dwighthilario1640 10 ай бұрын
GOAT = KarlTzy or Pheww Current Strongest = Kairi
@kenjiagari3142
@kenjiagari3142 10 ай бұрын
Yeah ph pride
@MR.X-uy2nl
@MR.X-uy2nl 10 ай бұрын
Lemon alien bang
@kenjiagari3142
@kenjiagari3142 10 ай бұрын
@@MR.X-uy2nl alien? The guy who can't win moonton tournament since mpl start🤣🤣
@MR.X-uy2nl
@MR.X-uy2nl 10 ай бұрын
@@kenjiagari3142 lemon juara dunia sea coc,juara mpli,juara mpl id 4x 😎
@kenjiagari3142
@kenjiagari3142 10 ай бұрын
@@MR.X-uy2nl local and small tournament since he play season1🤣🤣
@Nick-Dragrus
@Nick-Dragrus 7 ай бұрын
Currently, the game's competitive scene is still young, having people discuss the GOAT is too early. Perhaps best player or MVP, people can discuss but GOAT? Wait a few more years before we can discuss it further. IMO
@altanzirplay8608
@altanzirplay8608 10 ай бұрын
"I'm not Mielow" damn i love Hoon 🤣
@p1cs297
@p1cs297 10 ай бұрын
Best jungler? Yes KAIRI! But best over all, I mean GOAT? It's between KARLTZY, VEEWISE AND PHEW! But still the best MLBB player of all time 🇵🇭
@marronatay9928
@marronatay9928 10 ай бұрын
Mechanics wise, Kairi is the best MLBB player I've ever seen, 2nd is Karltzy and EDWARD they're equal, Skillset and Consistency and achievements.
@tsunkyun9649
@tsunkyun9649 10 ай бұрын
Super agree on all of this
@maynarddelacruz7200
@maynarddelacruz7200 9 ай бұрын
that "i'm not mielow" from hoon should open mielow's brain to think why did he even bother telling evryone that he's the goat😂😂
@PadenFam09
@PadenFam09 10 ай бұрын
Some of them didn't understand the meaning of Greatest of all time 😏
@user-oh4zd7rt6h
@user-oh4zd7rt6h 10 ай бұрын
Question mentions "of all time".... Neggaas who said kairi didn't get the question.
@Todak321
@Todak321 9 ай бұрын
Karltzy- 2 m series, seagames gold medalist Ribo- m2, seagames Flaptzy- m2, seagames, iesf Phew- m2, seagames 2x, iesf Veenus,wise, edward same achievements. Kairi only msc 2023,
@jobelgemina3941
@jobelgemina3941 10 ай бұрын
"OF all time" nga eeehh.. Ta's pina "right now, Kairi" 😂😂
@dia_kiyoko21
@dia_kiyoko21 3 ай бұрын
1:17 Xorn was so real for that
@kayeceerodriguez7991
@kayeceerodriguez7991 10 ай бұрын
The question is all time not current
@jakecalope9378
@jakecalope9378 10 ай бұрын
But everyone forgotten the real GOAT. Doc Ribo😢
@retsusasuga
@retsusasuga 10 ай бұрын
And then lemon mentioned: 💀
@josephinfinity2553
@josephinfinity2553 10 ай бұрын
This is for those who still dont understand what GOAT means. G.O.A.T= Greatest Of All Time
@OXONAKEPI
@OXONAKEPI 10 ай бұрын
Naa bro Its means 🐐 as they can walk in steep hills.
@Zexylin
@Zexylin 9 ай бұрын
I'm surprised that no one mentioned RIBO 😢
@aldeanteguh1156
@aldeanteguh1156 9 ай бұрын
Ribo hanya prestasi
@PioneerEditor
@PioneerEditor 10 ай бұрын
Kairi = NO Mseries Karltzy = 2x M World Champ Veewise = SEA GOLD MEDALIST, M3 WORLD CHAMP
@itsaprank6101
@itsaprank6101 10 ай бұрын
For me in terms of achievement its definitely karltzy however the best player at the moment in terms of mechanical skills and versatility its definitely kairi nobody play so good in using utility or assasin as a junger atm the amount of highlight he made in msc mplid and esl is unmatched and consistent
@PiaGia-ld8ue
@PiaGia-ld8ue 10 ай бұрын
lol at your logic, so you're telling me the king of pop is justin bieber and not michael jackson just because he's more popular now HAHAHHA
@PiaGia-ld8ue
@PiaGia-ld8ue 10 ай бұрын
obsessed kairi fantard who doesnt know the real meaning of GOAT HAHAHAHAHA
@eimber
@eimber 10 ай бұрын
Yeah no wonder OhMyVee or I should say VeeWise, they dominated the MPL even in International tournament. If they were in this series? I am sure it is going to be a different story for all the teams.
@N0N.o
@N0N.o 10 ай бұрын
Aeterna should've said yawi to spice things up
@Sxth.
@Sxth. 10 ай бұрын
She wants to say karltzy but she knows the rift between echo and yawi 😂😂😂
@4pl4y
@4pl4y 10 ай бұрын
the goat? the 2x world champion m series. the young
@engrJBH
@engrJBH 10 ай бұрын
Most of them don't understand what Greatest of all time means 😂 You base on impact in the game, achievements, contributions to meta/game and signature mark in the game. 😅
@nashredder8516
@nashredder8516 10 ай бұрын
I may not be a pro but i just want to share my rankings. 1st - KarlTzy 2nd - OhmyV33nus 3rd - kairi 4th - wise 5th - phew and ribo 6th - Ace
@draca941
@draca941 10 ай бұрын
Kairi, No MPL phil champ. hahahahaa
@draca941
@draca941 10 ай бұрын
1.Karl 2.Phew 3.Ribo 4.Flat 5.Wise 6.Omyvenus
@nashredder8516
@nashredder8516 8 ай бұрын
@@draca941 i based it on how they play not just on championships…
@JoeGeorge-i9r
@JoeGeorge-i9r 10 ай бұрын
You forgot Kirie Exports.
@margarsemarcjohnm.4701
@margarsemarcjohnm.4701 2 ай бұрын
All Ph players are mentioned here that's how strong filipino player is
@drumappsession
@drumappsession 9 ай бұрын
Most people here were really out of context. The reason why most of fans and also few casters are so arrogant flaunting their region and fave pro-player without truly realizing the heights only a true GOAT has achieved. One has to do is dominate your local MPL, give them flashy plays that can't even get you a world title. Then suddenly you're THE GOAT. NO wonder PH region still dominates. Because PH players recognize and appreciate GREAT ACHIEVEMENTS. And this fuels them to secure WORLD TITLES from M2-M5.
@peterfile1719
@peterfile1719 10 ай бұрын
Disrespectful to Mielow.......Clearly, he gapped them all in the Goat department. His achievements speak for themselves immensely.
@jolhea_c.
@jolhea_c. 9 ай бұрын
When you say All time it's base on their achievement through out their journey. And I think si Karltzy yun. Dun plang sa 2 time World champions. Sagot n yun e😂
@vivarrq152
@vivarrq152 10 ай бұрын
Lemon since S 1 he played for RRQ . He played 3 different roles and knows so much of this game. He is the GOAT of MLBB😎🧡🧡🧡
@jeffreyamado3387
@jeffreyamado3387 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂juara LOKAL
@jjjasmin9500
@jjjasmin9500 10 ай бұрын
Any international achievements?
@alammoba7196
@alammoba7196 10 ай бұрын
Did he won any international titles ??? He just played for your RRQ for a long time, and that's it 😂
@vivarrq152
@vivarrq152 10 ай бұрын
@@jjjasmin9500 2nd place at M1, 3rd place at M2, 3rd place at M4, 3rd place at MSC 2019, 2nd place at MSC 2022, 1st place MPLI 2020. Achievments doesnt always mean trophys
@free_2play
@free_2play 10 ай бұрын
@@vivarrq152 Only victors are remembered, YOU don't celebrate losers.
@Sxth.
@Sxth. 10 ай бұрын
Karltzy, pheew, and veewise talaga. Pero yung nagawa kasi ni Karl to win 2 m worlds sa magkaibang team tas siya pa carry (m2) and leader (m4) medyo mahirap itop. If you will ask Kairi sino rival nya ngayon, siguro sasabihin padin niya si Karltzy padin. Sayang lang friends sila so walang angasan 😂😂😂
@BsaSkylark
@BsaSkylark 10 ай бұрын
Why no one mentioned Mobazane . The self proclaimed goat
@blackychan9333
@blackychan9333 10 ай бұрын
How the fuck does the defending champions not qualify for M5?
@riri2803
@riri2803 10 ай бұрын
Because Echo had some internal issues and they weren't able to qualify.
@leojostah8383
@leojostah8383 10 ай бұрын
Bruh the question is whos the goat? And they gon be picking kairi
@JushSam
@JushSam 10 ай бұрын
achievement wise karl hold no debate the GOAT skillwise kairi his skills is deym..
@PiaGia-ld8ue
@PiaGia-ld8ue 10 ай бұрын
skills still goes to Karl literally owned the world in opposite meta (M2 hypercardy meta and M4 utility jungler)
@Sxth.
@Sxth. 10 ай бұрын
@@PiaGia-ld8ueindeed. Yung god mode ni kairi ngayon as jungler nagawa na ni karl before. Kelangan lang manalo naman ni kairi sa pilipinas ng mpl and worlds para malagpasan si karl 😂
@meijiegaming.998
@meijiegaming.998 10 ай бұрын
@@Sxth.mismo iba ang mag champion sa PINAS kesa sa ibang bansa. Dahil sa Pinas sobrang hirap i predict kung sino mag chachampion. Unlike international sobrang dali kahit sinong team ang mag present alam natin PH ang mag chachampion.
@riri2803
@riri2803 9 ай бұрын
@@Sxth. God mode ni Kairi sa MPL ID lang. Samantalang yung god mode ni Karl kahit mga PH teams walang nakapalag. Kita niyo kapag PH teams kalaban ni Kairi, controlled siya. Kahit nung MSC na yun na yung peak level ni Kairi e outjungled pa rin siya nila Karl at Wise.
@meenie9687
@meenie9687 9 ай бұрын
whats with mielow comments? is he good? or is it sarcastic? can someone explain 😅 ty
@Bokens
@Bokens 10 ай бұрын
I'm not Mielow 😅 -Hoon
@realspicy528
@realspicy528 10 ай бұрын
Dang, Lemon seriously? It's the most Indonesian answer ever. 😂😂😂
@Poorlife555
@Poorlife555 9 ай бұрын
WHEN THIS GAMES WANT SHUTDOWN??????
@fundemic.
@fundemic. 10 ай бұрын
THEY FORGOT RIBO💀
@yr_flex
@yr_flex 10 ай бұрын
Hoon: i'm not Mielow
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