WHO IS THE ___________ IN SMASH ULTIMATE?

[@OB97YT]

I love that Panda brings together some of the best smash bros personalities and makes them interact. Im watching TK, Wadi AND Little Z on the same couch.

[@kyurei4478]

They have almost the entire Smash crew at this point.

[@mrknots]

Sick to see Little Z out there with them!

[@jjslide1]

Wadi is a comedy machine. Every word he utters just makes me chuckle. Im very glad to see him in so much content

[@gogetablack5384]

Exactly, not to mention that Ganondorf is regularly around planet with, while Sora is universal

[@kwolfgang7]

💯💯

[@joaquinperez4830]

@@gogetablack5384 well...you could make the arguement that Ganondorf transcends universes with the timeline theory

[@michaelkaiser6193]

Thats a very nice thing to say

[@nicodico9537]

Big fax

[@jabrieljabriel3207]

Can you guys do a quiz where they play a wadi clip where he’s just completely wrong. The contestants guess who he’s wrong about

[@jeriji6592]

goated idea

[@justaliljello5198]

@@jeriji6592 Agreed

[@jjanggulane]

camping here until panda does this 🏕

[@sideofvelvet]

yes, it's the wrong person but they became the entire circus at 20:57

[@friezaisnowamonkey54]

That's a great idea

[@michelemichienzi934]

Kazuya definitely wins on swags level. He is a business man, the devil, an accomplished martial artist and as a hobby he collects snickers.

[@darkbluediamond3618]

“She dates Luigi, that’s pretty non-intelligent” How could you do my boy Luigi like that, LittleZ. At least Wadi understands.

[@BJGvideos]

Some might say that's a sign of her advanced intellect

[@mario.arsg345]

19:55 the camera crew laughing at Zach’s joke made my day

[@SDfighter1]

:)

[@hipwitthekids793]

his name is spelled Zack by the way

[@Cadoe]

zack

[@castform7]

20:56 Actually as a Kirby main and fan, I totally agree. Kirby is a very simple minded creature. People explain the the plot to him and he still doesn't understand the full gravity of a given situation.

[@Celestia282]

Kirby has saved the entire multiverse several times. From his perspective, he was just taking a stroll through the park on a beautiful summer day.

[@splashyboi52]

also didnt the show say kirbys a child or something like that?

[@castform7]

@@splashyboi52 The show isn't canon but the games have treated Kirby as a young child.

[@inafridge8573]

@@Celestia282 That is so well put, it kind of encapsulates what makes the Kirby series so unique

[@chaos7076]

He’s powerful not smart and I think everyone can agree with that

[@benjaminconway5956]

16:50 I love how TKbreezy played steve the first day he was released and then went back to Kazuya, who wasn't even released in the game yet lmaoooo

[@bluestar189]

I feel like they could've EASILY made arguments for Cloud being overrated and Sephiroth/Ridley being intelligent, but prefacing that they don't know/aren't familiar with the characters outside of Smash is... fair enough haha

[@Quackra]

Ridley honestly it is hard to say it he just straight up is the smartest or just one of the smartest because I think he is straight up WaDi's best character that he randomly got for that.

[@ColinGLogan]

So many top players have Cloud in top tier and Cloudy (Mexican cloud main) literally had him in top 10 in his recent tier list. He's way more overrated than Pika, who is at the very least top 5. Cloud (and Byleth, and maybe Corrin soon, and whoever else Leo picks up next) is overrated because of representation - the characters are no better than they were, Leo and Spargo are just better than everyone else at the game

[@metalwargreymon9250]

@@Quackra Yeah, he is THE Commander of the Space Pirates, which takes strategy, plus everyone knows that Ridley is cunning.

[@able076]

Sephiroth final smash literally math

[@TheFullPackage]

@@ColinGLogan Shouldn't so many top players having Cloud in top tier and the best representatives of Cloud thinking he's extremely good say something though? He's just yet another character who had very little representation and became underrated because of that but now has a top representative who is able to showcase how good the character actually is.

[@trevorgray2287]

Falco is not just a pilot, he's an astronaut. He flies in space. I gotta rank that above your run-of-the-mill doctor.

[@Climhazzard_]

He has a whole planet to protect so that’s even more than a pilot

[@hikaruocto7888]

Wadi had some good ones in the last one Seph and Ridley are canonically really smart-

[@lucas78044]

exactly, Ridley is the smartest and there is metal Ridley which can beat Rob too

[@immortalkingbsd1017]

I just watched 3 guys being objectively wrong for 23 minutes straight and I enjoyed every second of it.

[@An_Average_Idiot]

Literally dying inside but still laughing vibes.

[@Senketts]

Kazuya has a gold suit with matching gold hair while simultaneously being a devil and he somehow pulls it off. I'm sorry but It doesn't get more swaggy than that.

[@TONyjustRoCks]

TK is the only one that knows what's good. Sora is bodying Ganon, I'm prrtty sure his Keyblade is meant to defeat the darkness like Link. Ganon is the exact type of dude Sora washes on the daily.

[@iswiftyfox8997]

Sora prolly beats at least 75 characters on the rsoter in a fight but yeah he is kminda just a stupid kid with a keyblade tho

[@immortalkingbsd1017]

Exactly. Ganon doesn't stand a chance

[@TheKorenji]

@@immortalkingbsd1017 Now THAT'S a stretch! Ganon is so powerful he basically cannot die, and when he does... he just reincarnates. No living being in Hyrule could dream to be as powerful as Ganon is, not even those courageous enough to put a stop to his doings.

[@Sylvastier]

@@TheKorenji Sora still fights people with similar abilities (Chernabog, Sephiroth, Maleficent, Xehanort) on waaaay higher level and the Keyblade even has the ability to seal hearts/darkness for this exact kind of situation. Even then, just because he reincarnates 1000+ years later does not mean he doesn't lose, especially since no incarnation of him matches characters Sora has beaten like Xemnas or Xehanort. Heck he activly loses to Link who has never matched him in power and beats him due to using weapons that counter evil (Zelda's Arrows of Light and the Master Sword) which both have nowhere near the feats and power of a keyblade, which still manages to have the same evil/darkness countering abilities.

[@TheKorenji]

@@Sylvastier It's rather hard (and definitely unintended) to measure how strong "pure evil" actually is... sometimes that power is weak to good magic, sometimes it's balanced.. and in rare occasions, dark magic is just stronger.. it's definitely weird to compare the source of ultimate power within different universes, because a lot of the times they just don't mesh correctly since they're built for specific scenarios... like pitting two unstoppable forces against each-other... that's definitely something we aren't meant to see happening- anyways, my point is... one really shouldn't understate Ganon, not a bit, not at all.

[@microwaevy]

This banter was freakin hilarious LMAO, I loved the chemistry with everyone. The Steve mains having fun playing Fortnite Among Us comment had me cracking up 😂

[@jakereich2080]

Sephiroth was in the lifestream and has near-infinite bounds of knowledge, certainly more than a computer. I would argue he's smarter than ROB. I also heard something about Ridley being very smart

[@declanmcsherry9368]

I’m kind of hurt that Ridley didn’t beat rob. Ridley is insanely smart, smarter then any human being by far and even if we’re not calling rob a toy there’s no way he’s dumber then a robot

[@nonmagicalwitch]

I mean, rob commanded the subspace army, so there at least has to be some sort of ai on board. But yeah, ridley just has the smarts

[@deathminer6363]

But do you guys even know Sephiroths final smash. Straight up has mathematical equations in it.

[@nimcie8377]

@@deathminer6363 not just any equations. In order it’s time-dependent single-particle Schrodinger equation, the Einstein field equations, transport formula, electron screening calculations, an equation for rotating fluid of constant density, law of conservation of energy, Hellmann-Feynman theorem What we got from here is that Sephiroth is a NERD

[@owenicewater9704]

Everyone says that, but then it just grunts and flies around

[@bluarrow4505]

@@owenicewater9704 he actually speaks in the Metroid games and does a lot more than fly around

[@thecosplaycrafter8017]

8:50 "Oh, and, do the thing." I love how WaDi has just become known for "Ring the bell."

[@kyurei4478]

He should apply for a patent at this point.

[@egyptianhillbilly5013]

We were all waiting for it

[@J.Blazer]

LittleZ: "Now, if we were talking about R.O.B. *mains,* that's be a different story." me: yeah, no, definitely WaDi: "What that mean?" *remembers WaDi is a R.O.B. main *

[@RuneTacticss]

Fun fact: Sora would actually whoop Ganon in a fight Also Roy is canonically very very smart and makes great tactical decisions and almost flawlessly won an entire war, and he saw through plenty of enemy traps that were set up. He acts as both a general and tactician despite only being 15, which is pretty crazy

[@LKD7997]

I had no clue Roy was 15 but it does make sense that’s crazy

[@nimcie8377]

Ganondorf can only ever get killed by triforce stuff like the bow of light and the master sword, Link and Zelda are the only correct answers that can defeat him (Kazuya too I guess??). Sora gets carried by his friends, he’s nothing without em

[@toasterwaffle016]

🤓

[@RuneTacticss]

​@@nimcie8377 bruh moment

[@caelum9471]

@@nimcie8377 It's no fun if the character can only die by one specific thing in that specific universe. Take that away, and it'll be an interesting conversation. Sora is "carried" by his memories of his friends. That's all he needs and he's good to go. Though he does escape death several times in the series, we can take Kairi's "I believed you wouldn't die, therefore you didn't" away, and the whole heartless/nobody thing where you can't really die, pre-KH3 away as well. Sora is still beating Ganon without those imo. I'd argue the Square Enix characters are the hardest to beat. Sephiroth is definitely murdering Ganon in 5 seconds.

[@chaos7076]

Love how wadi shows a character and just starts saying random things till someone else agrees and gives an actual point for him

[@Williplier]

The blank expression on wadi after they said rob mains are dumb at 22:08 is priceless

[@InkyGhoul]

“What’s he gonna do with that little key?” That keyblade cuts skyscrapers in half.

[@LeeJayBird21]

Sora is absolutely insanely strong. There's a Death Battle episode of him.

[@JasonsHoerbuchstube]

Well counterpoint: Ganondorf is not a skyscraper

[@caelum9471]

@@JasonsHoerbuchstube That's not really the point they were making imo, it's just that Wadi was downplaying what the keyblade can actually do, and is in fact not just a "little key".

[@JasonsHoerbuchstube]

@@caelum9471 I am indeed knowing this, but was making a joke

[@thealduinslayer4903]

I wanna see more of these, especially with Mars. I don’t think I’ve laughed harder than when he put forward Ganon as the most honest character. “IT WAS ONE TIME” I was in stitches

[@seanjohnson3401]

Gotta disagree on Roy being low end on intelligence, my boy led an entire army and was the underdog of an intercontinental war and won. Other than that...please more of this trio, I love them lol

[@creatifproduction]

"Chrom is overrated because... why do you think..?" I HAVEN'T LAUGHED THIS HARD ALL WEEK

[@TheElectrifiedBrony]

Sora canonically is one of the strongest people in all of Final Fantasy

[@NectazzUniverse]

Tfw you are excited to hear about your character, and he's entirely summed up in 8 seconds

[@alfie5289]

same lmfao

[@mtlk5506]

Ganondorf has literally no chance against Sora

[@connorvine6096]

Thumbnail has Kirby, Bowser, and Shulk. They proceed to never come up in the video. Actually got clickbaited for literally no reason at all lmao

[@yaboilox5976]

We just gonna ignore the fact that Sora cuts through buildings like Gordon Ramsey filleting fish? And he not beating base form Ganon? Ok

[@PerfectDarkly]

Sora is like, the Goku of Kingdom Hearts, he's just incredibly gifted with all the magic and techniques that everyone in his universe can use and only gets better and better at using them as the plot demands. He may be a bit of a Gary Stu but he could put a lot of Ganondorf-tier villains away nonetheless There's also plenty more arguments to make about Mario's intelligence, that dude can do a hundred more things than just be a doctor. I'd even say Doc loses to him just because it's a narrowing-down of his skills and expertise

[@byronlyons3548]

Just like Goku though, he can just as easily lose or die to the villains, because he gets carried away, thinking things would be easy-peasy (like dream drop distance, or 3). But is brought back, because plot armor demands it. But yes, he can still put down Ganondorf for sure.

[@revya4294]

His power is only gonna grow more when kh4 comes out. Probably

[@TheKorenji]

@@revya4294 and his smash appearance will be canon 🗿

[@calebc7584]

@@TheKorenji already confirmed that it’s not

[@TheKorenji]

@@calebc7584 yeah but it would be funny if it was

[@mando76m]

"Sora can't beat Ganon, what's he gonna do with his little key?" Who gonna tell him?

[@ProfessorJayGaming]

That feeling when “Smash Superlatives” is too smart of a title for the audience 🤦‍♂️

[@schnibist]

wow, you must be extremely smart yourself to have come up with such a witty title!

[@Vsirugo13]

I honestly think a live version of this where maybe the chat could vote on which is the best could work very well? Idk might ruin pacing quite a bit but it could be fun.

[@roryosullivan3000]

nah I like this

[@caelum9471]

Definitely a good idea, because Wadi and Little Z definitely underestimate Sora. He'd mollywop Ganon.

[@gabrielkrows488]

I would like to point out that Link and Zelda both canonically LOSE to Ganondorf on their own. They can only beat him together, without the other they both toast

[@kimoota-kun]

The exception for this is Twilight Princess as Link handedly beats Ganondorf's ass. He had some help in one horseback fight but he's had 3 fights where she was doing nothing (or rather even possessed by Ganondorf).

[@byronlyons3548]

Not quite. Link can definitely whoop Ganondorf's ass, 9 times out of 10. As usually Link is fighting Ganondorf alone anyways. The only time Ganondorf truly win against Link, was using an army of deadly robots against him, such as BotW. Otherwise in a 1 on 1? No contest, that Link just wipes his ass against the floor.

[@gabrielkrows488]

To all arguments in the replies I'm meaning lore wise. In game it is usually Link on his own bc he's the player-character, but in the lore it had to be both of them.

[@byronlyons3548]

@@gabrielkrows488 Even in lore, it's not both of them 9 times out of 10.

[@Julv_]

If you're talking about Female Byleth's clothes, I agree. Male Byleth's clothes look fine tho

[@mikomie]

An easy argument for Sora vs Ganon would be that Ganon is darkness and Sora is used to seal/fight it

[@kyurei4478]

Ok but that's not that simple though. If you take it logically, Sora is the protagonist so he'll beat every form of darkness on his path. He will always beat the bad guy. This is obvious since this is the point of playing the games, beating the darkness. But it's not supposed to be automatic. He should supposedly be capable to die and actually it almost happened in Kingdom Hearts 3. So that's not a realistic argument. This is an easy argument yes.

[@toumabyakuya]

@@kyurei4478 Dude, all you said was nothing. Yeah, Sora is the protagonist, so? That doesn't meant that he lacks the feats to beat Ganondorf. Besides, following your logic, Ganondorf, being the villain, is suppossed to lose.

[@toumabyakuya]

@@kyurei4478 Dude, you, quite literally, said nothing. Him being the protagonist of his own game doesn't mean anything when it comes to a VS. debate like this one.

[@kyurei4478]

@@toumabyakuya All I said is confirming that this argument of Sora beating Ganon for the reason that he is darkness and that he his the protagonist in his own games is not a valid argument. But I never implied he lacks the feats buddy. Maybe he can. Apart from that, this is not my logic but the logic of the main comment if you had paid attention. Which would mean that everything is set in stone so even Olimar or every protagonist could beat Ganon.

[@kyurei4478]

@@toumabyakuya It's not because you can't understand it apparently that it means nothing. That's precisely what I said man...that him being the protagonist in his own game doesn't mean anything. That's why it doesn't make any sense.

[@Guysers]

I always forget Little Z doesn't play video games It shows every time

[@ElyParrot]

Sora with prep + friendship beats Ganon any day of the week.

[@marcus7984]

I can tell they haven't played Kingdom Hearts with just the downplay on Sora. He's one of strongest in the game. Kid's multiversal, the keyblade has crazy abilities as well

[@Climhazzard_]

I hate Sora in smash but I have to agree

[@SwiftsWorld]

TkBreezy: Steve is not fun to play as 16:48 WaDi: Have you not seen these Fortnite, Among us McMinecraft Kids walking around? I died laughing😂😂

[@Antonio-is2cn]

Playing as Steve&Alex is like playing Minecraft in a new world - mining for resources building shelter crafting better tools/weapons and even in Minecraft it's a chore because it takes fucking forever to get started so yeah not fun lol!

[@CoffeCat400]

Sora is stronger than ganon, because he would probably just beat him by putting his heart to sleep with the power of waking (weird power in the kh lore don’t ask it’s bs like the rest of the lore)

[@magsfanranger3070]

True

[@splish_2]

Sora can keep up with sephiroth, ganon literally has no chance

[@frogmanfromthesky2148]

Fun fact: link has indeed fought a version of Zelda as a boss

[@DaDMonDCB]

"How is Sora gonna beat Gannon with his little Key?" Maleficent, Hades, Hercules, Jafar, *Cloud and Sephiroth*, and several other high power Disney Villains might want a word with you. In the In Universe Tier List, Sora's got more on his plate than most of the cast. He's up there with Palutena and Kirby(withItems).

[@nightsladerayx9145]

Agree with you on that

[@nimcie8377]

He never canonically beat Sephiroth, Sephiroth just brushes dust off his shoulder after his fight and says “sorry, only Cloud has a chance”

[@DaDMonDCB]

@@nimcie8377 He never *killed* Sephiroth. He beat him, but since KHSephiroth has a special connection to KHCloud, Sora can't eliminate him. Still, Sephiroth is a planet-eating top-tier threat, and getting him to admit you're good is certainly a feat in and of itself. And Sora still has wins against pretty deadly Disney Villains, too.

[@jessielsanchez5079]

Up there with Palutena and Kirby? Nah, even higher. He's actually up there with Mario, Sonic (Super form) and Shulk (Monado III), although Joker solos the entire Smash roster due to platonic concepts

[@jessielsanchez5079]

@@nimcie8377 And even then, Sephiroth is still a Solar System threat, while Sora is way above that

[@carlospolk5033]

I love how they mix in all their in-game and out of game logic to try to one up each other. Never change Panda, plenty of special moments for everyone here lmao

[@darokolghai7942]

15:17, love how Zack has it upside down and doesnt even notice lol

[@pwojo9776]

Kirby can operate the equivalent to fighter jets (Planet Robobot; basically Kirby with mechs), a skill that takes years of training, study, and practice; by human standards, while his feats of intelligence and limits of intellect are conflicting (while he can operate a fighter jet, his most basic instincts and desires are that of an animal; eat, sleep, and repeat; also it's unclear whether or not he can read, but he can also play golf pretty well) I'd say he's pretty smart, more of an anomaly, but still pretty smart. On top of that, Kirby can also absorb and break-down enemies, he can assimilate them, learn, and easily replicate their abilities in an instant; guns, explosives, energy weapons and energy generation, martial arts, telekinesis and ESP, etc.; complex technology and machinery as well as intricate practices that take years to perfect, and he does this instinctually. Falco isn't really that special when most other birds don't need to know how to be a pilot to fly. ROB, while being an AI and so is pretty intelligent, he's also working on late 80's tech; he's basically an NES with extra bits and baubles. I would argue Kirby is objectively the smartest.

[@nebula_kai]

When you realise that 19 comments are from the same person

[@rinn5238]

bro thinks this is discord

[@nebula_kai]

@@rinn5238 he's grinding for attention lol

[@rinn5238]

@@nebula_kai fr

[@MrG-bk2yi]

Nintendope

[@Killer_Bee150]

Brother thought he was in a live chat

[@alexaurorus9767]

TK an absolute chad- knowing all that lore

[@castform7]

"Ken gets married" TK chose the worst time to bring that up.

[@underbandit2372]

If only they had Dark Pit instead of Normal Pit. Dark Pit is extremely fun to gimp with, one of the few characters that can consistently fight offstage which is always a blast, and rewards your sociopathy. Normal Pit is fine too I guess

[@revya4294]

If only they knew how strong Sora and Ryu actually are 💀

[@Slenderquil]

Roy commands a whole army and just gets thrown aside in intelligence. Sad

[@GoodMeyers]

Sephiroth and Ridley are way smarter than Dr. Mario wdym 💀

[@cullenhutchison6528]

Who would win isn't a question of who's stronger, but of who has the power of friendship on their side.

[@bonkers5451]

Craziest thing is, depending on who is compared to who, anyone could possibly win.

[@heartofthecards8698]

Sora literally wrecks ganon canonically tho. Ik Little Z isnt a fan but i thought everyone knew the general scaling of the characters in comparison to one another. Wadi: what can the little Key do Sora: Slice through buidlings and seal/open doors to entire planets

[@SgtWaffleIron]

Yeah, TK, you were robbed. Only those of us cursed with too much KH knowledge know that Sora is cracked with the power of plot armor and anime.

[@jessielsanchez5079]

Multiversal level

[@omlett6482]

Falco as a pilot of a commercial plane: "Hands off my Cockpit"

[@AnthonySilva35]

As a biased Dark Pit main, very fun character. Multiple jumps, arrows, fun combos and then hitting that spike twice in a row is very satisfying

[@uddin8097]

I dont think saying Sora would beat Ganon is a stretch. Considering all the feats Sora has done, it’s really possible.

[@andremorrison7626]

If Link can, Sora CAN

[@improbablegaming6592]

This is also OOT Ganon, the normal guy who turns into a pig with the triforce. Sora absolutely has a chance

[@shortesnameofalltime]

Absolutely didn’t sora beat up fucking sephiroth

[@freezeframeplease]

underestimating the Triforce of Power uh? I see

[@bannles]

Yeah. He’s got the power of the Mouse on his side

[@superdorito2896]

Tk legit got robbed on that swag question. Wolf is way cooler than whatever dark samus is.

[@zacharywoloszynski4258]

In my opinion, Wolf and Sephiroth are the 2 hypest characters in the game

[@CommentPositionInformer]

Not by that much. Like, with the organic-design overlayed on the usual armor appearance, the blue glow effect, the colors on the charge shot, the fact that she floats everywhere. Dark Samus is a very cool looking character, people's minds are usually to poisoned with her playstyle to notice it. It's kinda the same issue as Steve. People say Steve is badly designed, but with his incredibly original moveset, intrinsic mechanics and style choices, Steve is simply one of the best designed characters in the game. People just forget that because his playstyle is unappealing.

[@firefatesgaming1855]

@@CommentPositionInformer that's kinda cap. where your required to play a curtain way against steve or you get zero to death. camp and he gets diamond. sounds fair. Totally balanced

[@CommentPositionInformer]

@@firefatesgaming1855 That's literally all gameplay. Steve is beautifully design in the way his blocks work, the mining, crafting and durability mechanics, his resource management, the references incorporated in his moves, etc. His gameplay isn't well designed, but everything else about the character is.

[@firefatesgaming1855]

@@CommentPositionInformer gameplay matters when talking about design i would say sepiroth or wolf are way better design.

[@Red-Faction]

As a fan of versus battle type shows like Death Battle and Smash Bracket, the urge to constantly "um actually" them when they ignorantly debate character power levels in these is overwhelming.

[@Slasher--]

Nerd

[@Red-Faction]

@@Slasher-- lol

[@videogamesarecool9280]

13:20 thats THE castlevania: order of ecclasia music in the background

[@gorbla1231]

Sora would absolutely body ganon. He's defeated hades, a literal god, in one on one combat.

[@untyprandom9740]

So did Ike (he should've won), also he's probably according to lore the strongest Fire Emblem caracter in smash

[@jessielsanchez5079]

@@untyprandom9740 He's strong in his own franchise, but compared to Sora, he's fodder

[@lemonhead19]

@Jessiel Sánchez nah chief Ike is crazy strong. At the very least he puts up a good fight, but I’d probably put my money on him over Sora

[@gorbla1231]

@@lemonhead19 i can't find any definitive feats of strength from ike that would put him above sora. Sora defeated Sephiroth who can create a literal supernova. He's beaten gods, and can time travel at will. He can also fly.

[@lemonhead19]

@@gorbla1231 Power scaling between games in general is always pretty weird, like for example it’s hard to say if a god in one universe is as strong as a god in another, stuff like that. I could say Ike defeated Ashera, the god of control, but I really don’t know how she scales to the gods in KH, and vice versa. In general though, I think Ike is a better fighter. He’s also got Aether. That shit busted

[@nickolaibrosky]

The energy between the 3 of them is great honestly. Would love to see more

[@oskarkarlsson5705]

Last round, wadi could have won with ridley because in the metroid games it's said that despite his apperance, Ridley is known to be highly-inteligent.

[@Classof-tu6nz]

If only wadi knew Ridley was smart….

[@craigmoon2121]

ZSS is actually REALLY fun to play...or...that is until you successfully land an Up Special that'd kill on the last stock and then the opponent just falls out of it.

[@ThatOneGuyBen]

Roy being labeled as not smart is so funny to be because dude literally leads an entire army in his game. Pretty much was forced into it and man made it work

[@Quackra]

That last one honestly, WaDi could have made an argument for Ridley. People who don't know about Ridley wouldn't know that he definitely is smarter than Falco. Not say that Falco isn't smart it is just that knowing everything that Ridley can do makes him overall one of the smartest characters in smash in terms of actual intelligence.

[@redraven123]

He also had Sephiroth. Sephiroth has read an entire library of scientific documents in a few days and literally absorbed all of the knowledge of the lifestream - which is basically the embodiment of the entire worlds memories.

[@carlospolk5033]

5:13 lmao Wadi, that STANK FACE though… boy, I just can’t… I’m dead 💀

[@alexbrabant2180]

I’m just happy to see that I’m not the only person who thinks that Banjo is fun

[@StarkMaximum]

Yoshi going down first for "most intelligent" on both the character and the players just reminds me of that fucking god tier Yoshi rant.

[@Step43099]

Nahhhhh bru Sora be smoking whole organizations on the daily

[@neolin.99]

A note that will probably be useful in the future: Diddy is not a chimp, he is a sissy little spider monkey. Those things weigh a whopping 6 pounds and probably couldn't hold 12.

[@andrewww13]

Did Little Z give WaDi his handshake from when he guessed enderman in the zoomed in picture quiz?

[@PandaGlobal]

:)

[@zzFuzzy]

LOL. “Guys, how cool… is riding a motorbike?” as he puts down Wario.

[@andrewcavallo1877]

3:50 Ike canonically killed a god in his games, WaDi actually wins this

[@santiagoc.9037]

Fun fact, MegaMan was able to hold on his hands (harshly) the collapsing structure of Willy's castle, also he was en the lower level of the structure, only surpassed by Protoman who didn't have that of trable holding it.

[@catharcact2]

Counterpoint: R.O.B. is literally a toy, and is not capable of sentience. (Even in the Subspace Emissary, R.O.B.'s capacities for intelligence are limited to following orders and feeling basic emotions.) Sephiroth easily beats that given his demonstrations of insanely complicated yet effective tactics to consistently overwhelm and outwit Cloud across the Final Fantasy VII series.

[@BJGvideos]

Counterpoint, R.O.B. as the Ancient Minister was able to rebel against his programming

[@catharcact2]

@@BJGvideos That's plus points for sure, but R.O.B. wasn't scheming at Tabuu's levels, much less Sephiroth's! (Will give it to ya tho, seeing AM rebel and join the team brought tears to little kid me back when.)

[@BJGvideos]

@@catharcact2 Same and I was in my 20s.

[@SylveonIsTheBestEeveelution]

"Shirtless half the time, wherein joggers like a black dad" Oml xD

[@Matpit18]

It was thoroughly entertaining seeing how every one of them interacted with the words “swag” and “drip”. And it will never not be thoroughly entertaining, especially with WaDi.

[@DidacticGamingYT]

Ridley is a space pirate and Sephiroth is literally an ancient evil deity, how are they not considered smart

[@Raisinclm]

Wadi is literally my grandfather

[@researchinbreeder]

The number of god reincarnations (Zelda, Ganon) and god slayers (Sora, Ike, Link debatably), that hit the table just to lose to a tin can in the first round is hilarious.

[@Taqtik]

This is what happens when 3 smash players get together, not having probably looked into the lore of Fire Emblem at all: “Ike is weaker than Mega Man.” Ike literally fights the creator of the Universe and wins.

[@Eclipsmon8421]

I will argue against Daisy being smarter than Peach, because the only reason why Peach gets kidnapped all the time is because everyone always try to kidnap her. I mean, I never got kidnapped in my life, but did someone even try to? Meanwhile, we tried to kidnapp Daisy once, and she got kidnapped that one time. And like, if you are a normal princess, would you be able to defend yourself against Bowser's army? I don't think so. Also ROB is literally just a toy.

[@jonteguy]

If they knew the *PROPER* FFVII lore they would have a case for Sephiroth being smarter than ROB 100%.

[@massgunner4152]

"I think is cool when i hit wafts" Zach this a family friendly enviroment.

[@LKD7997]

Funny thing is Sora is unironically one of the strongest characters lorewise in the Smash roster lol

[@mrchips9183]

Nah he is just a kid with a key

[@LKD7997]

@@mrchips9183 lol yep

[@m_winewood]

High key very few characters can canonically beat Sora even though he looks flimsy.

[@alanseibel4565]

If he didn't have plot armor he'd be dead

[@alanseibel4565]

He never would have been able to beat sephiroth

[@newyorksturtleman]

3:28 I’m surprised they never brought up Mega Man’s back throw. The guy literally lifts you over his head and YEETS you away

[@nicolaashamman6201]

Well Link is basically Peter Pan, so that must meant Ganondorf is Captain Hook, and there's a Kingdom Hearts boss fight against Captain Hook, so...

[@metainstincts85]

“Ken is married, and he’s” Street fighter 6 ken: OH THE MISERY

[@harrison9239]

Hell yeah, they got Z in person!

[@chaossabermoo9697]

Giggling at how they think Sora Is weak when not only can he beat Hercules and cut skyscrapers on half and that was only in 2 he only gets stronger after that

[@mmmrFelipe888]

I think Cloud is pretty smart, as a soldier at least.

[@DisappointedBuddha]

That last question had TK say Cloud is an idiot (argue both ways if mental illness is stupid, but he does summon ancestral gods from oil so that deserves credit.) And Wadi had Sephiroth who manipulated the power of the Lifestream to project himself into the past to change the future in FF7 Remake. They both kinda win