Who Is The Real Goat? Jordan vs Lebron - The Best GOAT Comparison Reaction

[@--ArcAngel--]

One legged 40 year old Jordan was still killing it on defense.

[@whenisdinner2137]

Lebron stopped playing defense the minute he left miami buddy..... he turned 31 and started resting. Jordan was first team all defense at age 34-35...

[@QuantumAnswer]

not only that, Lebron played defense in Miami because he had no choice, Miami has AWESOME rules for their players and If you don't follow the rules you're gonna be on the bench, regardless of who you are - that's why his best defense years were ONLY in Miami

[@quintinjohnson3742]

He is giving you statements and numbers backed up with evidential facts bro!!! There is no Lebron side of the story or Jordan side. You are in denial, but I get it. You were never able to be around when Jordan played. You will never understand

[@algladyou]

Lol right? He was making excuses that he said, he only showed Lakers. If he's not top 10 defense. He's not. No need to show or not to show a video clip

[@McCarthyism_by_Youtube]

he's a narcissist casual. just because he won game of horse once, he thinks he's knowledgeable

[@jasonjenkins9247]

He just told your for 30min why Jordan is a better basketball player. To be the GOAT you are essentially the best basketball player. If you pick Lebron over Jordan your team is getting cooked by Jordan. I think you might be on some copium.

[@JohnBrown-rh1zc]

Every time you thought you had a clever rebuttal to the points that were illustrated in this video. Instantly, you got your question answered, but it was apparent that you didn't like hearing the TRUTH!! So, like an obvious LBJ fan, you started deflecting and making accuses after accuses and started to contradict your own arguments. MASSIVE COPING that is normal of a blind fan boy!! LBJ is NOT BETTER than MJ! PERIOD. Four major flaws that you saw and agreed to and you still want to make that ridiculous claim???😂😂😂

[@McCarthyism_by_Youtube]

he's the ultimate casual. it stings, don't it? 😅 being a LeBron nut-rider, he has tons of support by others that never experienced the Bulls dynasty irl. it's a shame to be so invested in basketball and clueless at the same time

[@GregNewkirk-o8h]

Mike 13 years in Chicago. 10 scoring titles. 6 rings. Made playoffs every year . That is a ring almost 50 percent of his time in Chicago 😮

[@inf4mousvloglife1572]

Facts 👌

[@BucketNekkid]

I had a LeBron fan tell me straight up that scoring titles DIDN'T MATTER 🤦🏿‍♂️

[@whenisdinner2137]

I want to be the juggernaut LMFAOOOO. I don't want just 1 micky mouse chip

[@Nakdimon316]

Lebron was 35 when he won his chip with the Lakers, Jordan was 35 when he won his last chip with the Bulls. Jordan was All Defense 1st that year while winning the scoring title and carrying his team through the regular season and the playoffs. Lebron was a defensive no-show.

[@GregNewkirk-o8h]

Longevity as a goat qualification for LeBron is a joke. Kareem . 10 finals 6 rings. 6 MVP awards. Last finals MVP 38 years old. Last ring 40 years old. Top 3 all time scoring rebounds and blocks. That is longevity.

[@fairydust22002]

Michael Jordan has a glow about him, when he's playing it's unreal. Yeah, he's out of this world. MJ is in a league of his own.

[@GregNewkirk-o8h]

Anyone who thinks LeBron is bigger , stronger, and faster than Mike is delusional. Watch Mike finish thru contact ( strong ) . Faster 😂 Mike 4.3 40. Bigger. 2 inches taller does not matter. Mike 48 inch vertical. 6'6" plus 4 ft equals top of head 6 inches above the rim. Alien. Only Wilt and Mike are that athletic. Wilt 48 inch vertical. 4.4 40. 500 lbs bench press. Aliens.

[@w.w.1348]

Jordan shoot 50.5% FGs as a Bull. It only dropped after playing hurt and injured as a Wizard.

[@nathanmckenzie904]

It also dropped his ppg from 32 to 30.1

[@spitnificent]

@@nathanmckenzie904and anyone in their right mind still wouldn’t trust LeBalco at the end of a game over him.

[@jasonjenkins9247]

I loved your face after that chase down snatch from Jordan's Wizards days! What were you saying right before that? Its almost like dude who made the video thought you might bring that up. It was a setup

[@McCarthyism_by_Youtube]

denial is a stinky cologne. his channel's not worth subscribing to. I'm regretting even watching this trash reaction

[@mrblob5413]

Literally showed you Jordan was better basketball player.

[@feelinghobbies.02]

Those stats were even in a per game basis. Which states that in games they played in jordan is always gonna be better and will most likely win over any other player in the league

[@paulmayes76]

No excuses LeBron's not that guy never was

[@CTBSlash0509]

Did this dude say that in Jordan's era, nobody could shoot? Omg, this generation is cooked💀

[@travispipkin8000]

If Jordan played in this era he would average 45+ easy.

[@GregNewkirk-o8h]

Jordan would avg what ever he wants. No Hall of Fame 7' centers in the lane. No hand checking. Against 4.3 40 speed, 48 inch vertical.

[@23gobears]

Your excuse game for LeBron is impressive.

[@jomariano37]

this was not really a debate...was just created by the agents handling Lebron, Clutch Sports. i'll take Kobe over Lebron anytime, so to compare him to MJ is an absolute joke.

[@BucketNekkid]

I respect you saying that you haven't watched a live game of Jordan. A lot of younger fans just diss Jordan knowing that they've never seen him play.

[@tiredoffools8929]

I've got no problems with ppl having other players than MJ as their favorite player. But the "Greatest" player and the "Best" player are same. Some fan of another player other than MJ tried to create that talking point to allow them to pick their favorite player as the best, but that isn't how it works. Lebron's strengths have been manufactured for most of his career. The reason I say this is because he had MJ's blueprint to follow, whereas MJ created the blueprint. Don't get me wrong, MJ did mold his game off of many other players. Most notably including Dr. J early on, but he evolved into himself. Bron started with MJ's Blueprint, then saw Boston's big Three and decided to create Superteam MIA. Later on he saw how Westbrook got so popular with the Trip dubs, and he changed his came to manufacture Trip dubs and gain the same praise. Bron manufactured his way to the Finals because he's had the only superteam in the East and has always had elite players around him since MIAMI. That is a fact. MJ didn't have that advantage. MJ's EAST was stacked like how the WEST today is stacked. MJ never had another player beside him who had averaged close to 30 points a game. Pippen's best year he averaged 22 ppg, and that was the year MJ was playing baseball. Lebron rests on defense in favor of stat padding the offense. When you look at his numbers, his assist went up more after Westbrook's 2017 MVP Season. Westbrook made Trip Dubs the most glorified stat, and ever since Lebron followed that blueprint to manufacture Trip Dubs. Why Lebron always resting below the rim on defense? Because he is getting those easy rebounds that fall in his lap from missed 3s. Why Lebron holds the ball so long and make late passes? Late passes force his teammates to shoot and those translate into assists when made. Westbrook is more aggressive, but he also does that too. A lot of today's players benefit from the wide open lanes, and the fact you can't touch nobody driving because that head hesitation while attempting to score makes the refs give the offensive player then "AND ONE." How many times Lebron flops and gets to the line? How many times Lebron rests on defense and the rest of his team is playing 4 on 5 on the other side of the court without him? All of this matters. When you are talking about the "Best" it all matters. If you are a GM, do you want a player how is going all out every game and playing a full 82, or you want a guy that picks and chooses when he wants to play, and takes load management rest days when healthy even against your arch rivals? Think about? MJ was an excellent passer, but when you pass to guys like Luc Longley , Brad Sellers, Stacey King, etc. who would blow a layup, those would be assists won't count. Now Bron passing to AD, Kyrie, Dwade or Bosh, he's gonna have assists. When you have better players around you your assist opportunities increase. You have to realize that Scottie Pippen wasn't an allstar when he joined MJ and the Bulls. He was a rookie coming off the bench scoring 7.9ppg. If Bron had Scotie Pippen as a rookie, he would have had the team trade him in a package for an allstar. That is the weak non-competitive mentally of Lebron's Superteam era. When Bron joined the Lakers, he had BI and Kuzma scoring 18 ppg ea. MJ never had that. It took Scottie 3 years practicing with MJ to develop into that All-star. He wasn't given allstar tandems to play with like a BOSH/WADE or a KRYIE/LOVE. That all matters. Put Bron in MJ's era without a superteam and see what would happen. Team's like the Badboys getting in his head and tossing his floppin self to the ground. See how many games he'd win against Larry's 5 HOF Celtics team. Now put MJ in this era with the wide open lanes, the defense can't touch him, and the multitude of three point shooters to pass to on his drives. We would be witnessing a player averaging 45 to 48 ppg. It would that insane.

[@GregNewkirk-o8h]

@@tiredoffools8929 It's amazing how little knowledge of the NBA this generation has. They watch a few years of NBA and think that is the whole 70 years of NBA history. Clueless. LeBron is a Hall of Fame player , but GOAT. He is not top 10. He is not even the best at his position. Bird best small forward of all time.

[@5150Visions]

Very solid comment bro!

[@kunarmakun793]

he said, not putting the 3pt% is lowkey helping MJ😅😂😂😂

[@GregNewkirk-o8h]

Before the NBA finals a reporter said Clyde Drexler was better 3 point shooter. Mike said he doesn't choose to shoot 3 pointers. First game of finals 6 three pointers 1st half , finals record. 35 points. Took the second half off. Blow out. Goat. Wilt avg 50 points 25 rebounds one season. They said he could only score . Next season led the NBA in assists. Don't challenge greats . Kareem. 38 years old said he was finished after worst game of his career. Kareem went off! Finals MVP 38 years old. Greatness. LeBron not top 5.

[@feelinghobbies.02]

Then bro proceeds to explain how mj and lebron are relatively close in 3 point percentage, like its such a well made video with everything in it

[@jericcoo5169]

Michael Jordan averaged 31.5 points per game for the Bulls in his career.

[@Elsim]

33:07 this is the face of "I spoke too soon"

[@whenisdinner2137]

I'm guessing they were talking about elgin baylor at small forward, who averages 27.4 pog vs. lebron's 27.1

[@paulmayes76]

Jordan all the way

[@avonmoto4931]

"Now NBA is Positionless" haha, Never ever Bron Fans will accept it

[@stevenaleman7454]

Wilt Chamberlain is my favorite player and he was extremely dominant on defense, especially after seeing him block Kareem’s signature sky hook in many occasions…I think MJ is the real GOAT because he did more in less time and set the bar so high that everyone keeps trying to compare themselves to MJ…

[@GregNewkirk-o8h]

I have Mike over Wilt because of love of the game. Wilt may be the greatest athlete ever in any sport. He had other interests. Wilt blocked Kareems sky hook 3 times in a row. Kareem adjusted. Second year ring . Wil retired a couple years later. Wilt said Kareem only guy he help to guard. Old Wilt . Young Kareem.

[@Eric-xv5eb]

This is the problem with this younger generation, they aren’t old enough for the GOAT debate. They just don’t know enough about basketball. If you aren’t old enough to have seen at least 3 or 4 different eras of basketball then you just haven’t seen enough. This man didn’t think Kareem, wilt or Russell were on Mt. Rushmore. lol. Lebum isn’t on my Rushmore but he is in my top 10.

[@whenisdinner2137]

Game score tracks every stat

[@KoufalKoufax]

the copium is harder in this one. the reason its easier to drive in the rim because bigman cant crowd the paint because its a violation. you get that buddy?

[@FirstHumanOfficialChannel2024]

Goat = MJ & Larry

[@GregNewkirk-o8h]

@@FirstHumanOfficialChannel2024 Mike Wilt Kareem Bird Russell

[@jefferymursier5466]

Jordan

[@Santino3989]

Opinions can be bias... facts are facts... lebron your favorite player thats cool... MJ IS THE GOAT. 😊

[@perezhernan32]

Bro your in denial he proves clearly why Jordan is the better player with facts and evidence

[@shaheempashua6924]

Wilt once saud in sn interview (im paraphrasing) "NBA players should be guving MJ a porion of their salaries for whst he has done for the game"

[@23gobears]

The GOAT means the best basketball player. Lol. Love watching your facial expression change throughout the video as your excuses were proven wrong time after time. Facts over feelings young fella. Its alright though. You're gonna be ok I promise. 😂😂

[@mikebattle3393]

100 % MJ

[@paulmayes76]

You don't know basketball clearly just by listening to you, excuses LeBron James sucks

[@rodgabac5834]

These young dudes are so ignorant and prideful at the same time. You show them solid proof and statics and still they will come up with tons of excuses for their biases.

[@Iamteeski]

Excuses or debate?

[@hakancarlsson2881]

​@@IamteeskiSolid proof can't really be debated. 🤷

[@RonaldThomas-m8h]

I am getting Jordan all day!

[@mrtoney313]

I'm taking Magic over Lebron ANY DAY.

[@brandonpurdy7658]

Kevin Durant has a higher ppg than Lebron.

[@jericcoo5169]

Michael Jordan had a PER of 29.1 for the Bulls in his career.

[@paulmayes76]

All-time stats speak to longevity and longevity is not in the gold category all-time stats mean nothing just ask Kareem cuz if it meant something he would have been the goat but he wasn't so neither is LeBron it doesn't matter then it doesn't matter now

[@ryantromp9152]

You have to do: The best individual season in the NBA history

[@Luke-sq6xo]

Quit changing your defensive strategy for defending LeChoke every time the narrator blows your last argument out of the water.

[@Iamteeski]

Stop being bias you too old for that.

[@PillCosby7117]

1.MJ 2.Bird 3.Kobe

[@GregNewkirk-o8h]

MJ , Wilt (only other alien) , Kareem , Russell (google his game 7 play off stats. Winner) , Larry Legend (best small forward of all time). 5 best players in 70 years of NBA history. Young people don't judge 70 years on small portion you saw . I'm 65 and fortunate to have seen 3 all time greats . LeBron is Hall of Fame player , but not in the conversation for GOAT.

[@TheRealBangy]

You'll lose with Bron it's proven... Jordan wouldn't lose

[@Lilmorenito140]

The amount of denial from you is baffling.

[@Coeford]

The goat but not the best ball player? That’s wild. If he’s not the best then how is he the goat. You know that G means greatest right? Aight cool

[@Iamteeski]

Greatness- the quality or state of being great (as in size, skill, ACHIEVEMENT, or power)

[@Orcasrule6355]

MJ is better than Lebron in every single metric you could possibly use. There is no comparison. MJ is at the top of the mountain

[@timmuetzel2675]

You got a like and a subscribe. Mainly for being open-minded and reasonable. Looking forward to checking out your other videos. Lebron is an incredible player. But as someone who was alive and watched both of these players....this debate seems silly. It was just....so much different. Thanks for doing this....loved watching it.

[@Iamteeski]

Thanks!

[@SS-xv7xf]

You’re in denial, period.

[@luisrobledo5635]

I was really trying not to say nothing but you don't listen at all😂😂 you hear it but you not listening every time you say something he says it

[@rons3634]

Good video. Funny to watch all the excuses get washed away within like 2 minutes after he says them. The ending comments didn't make any sense at all and was hilarious. GOAT is greatest of all time. That means greatest basketball player of all time. Everyone knows what that means. Well, almost everyone. LOL

[@tudorm6838]

Remember that Mj was a point guard for 17 games in 1988. He averaged almost a TD per game, with more than 30PTS and 10 assists per game. In a series of 11 games from this 17 he had 10 TD. Ln the 1991 final against the Lakers he had 11+ assists per game (he want to challenge Magic in this area)

[@andrewwilliams3389]

What makes me laugh about lebron fans is that they love talking about stats but when it doesn’t favor him now all of a sudden the stat is iffy🤣 or when Jordan being a better scorer is brought up they say Lebron likes to get his assists… but any other time yall bring up the all time leading scorer for Lebron when yall never did when Kareem was the leading scorer but now all of a sudden it matters now🤣 since when?? Can’t have it both ways sir. The thing is saying Lebron is the goat is off of pure emotion. Yall young dudes just want to be able to say someone from your era that you seen play is the best. I get it. But objectively MJ is just the GOAT. Based on facts not feelings.

[@Iamteeski]

I ain’t say bron was the goat but what kind of “debate” is one sided?Why even have the discussion if there is nothing to argue? If Jordan is obviously better why are you here. Exactly bro Makes no sense right.

[@illxtra]

LOL, I like how you said you wasn't going to give your opinion but you stopped the video several times to give your (biased) opinion. You saw the stats. Jordan is the GOAT, accept it, deal with it!!!!

[@punkem733]

lebron couldn't wash MJ's underwear, forget tying his shoes.

[@GregNewkirk-o8h]

Only goat qualification he has longevity 😂. Kareem. 6 rings. 6 MVP awards.10 finals. Last ring 40 years old. Last finals MVP 38 years old. Won first ring 2nd year in league. Demanded a double team for 20 years. Longevity means nothing if you don't win. Kareem top 3 all time scoring rebounds and blocks . That is longevity. Magic got the hype. Magic won finals MVP rookie year. He was the second best player on the team. 😮 Who was the MVP of the NBA ? Kareem!! He was still the best player in the league. Media hype. Bird and Magic were good for the league. The money is the main thing for owners and everyone else financially linked to the league. Kareem didn't give interviews or sign autographs ,bad for business . College 3 years. 3 championships . Lost 2 games in 3 years. Much better than LeBron . I have Kareem 3rd behind Wilt and Mike .

[@lenstgelais7376]

I want to start a franchise it’s Jordan Lebron is not even in my top 3

[@GregNewkirk-o8h]

Not top 5 .

[@lenstgelais7376]

@@GregNewkirk-o8h i can agree to that also 😂🤷‍♂️

[@andrewwilliams3389]

The guy in the video is not bias just because he’s not saying things that fit how you feel. All he doing is stating facts & evidence. You are bias towards Lebron so what makes you different exactly? If it was you, u would make a video being bias towards Lebron that favors him right? So you’re not any different. It’s just the fact that this video doesn’t fit with how you feel. If it was bias towards Lebron you would be perfectly fine with that. The whole entire time u wanted him to only talk about longevity stats.. Why? Because it favors Lebron right? And also a lot of you Lebron fanboys act like Lebron is still in his prime right now but when someone brings up his defense right now.. now all of a sudden u wanna play the “lebron is old” card lol like nah you can’t have it both ways.

[@Iamteeski]

I’m just giving a fair argument for his side just like if the video was in lebrons favors I would do the same for Jordan. It literally shows lebron air balling all throughout the video and not one time did it for Jordan so yes the video is bias bro you just mad I’m not a Jordan rider bro you gotta stop.

[@Luke-sq6xo]

You continue to contradict yourself trying to defend LeFlop. You apparently aren't listening to every stat provided to you youngster. Open your ears puppy.

[@stambo1983]

Boy salty af lol

[@fishtailfuture]

4-7

[@Santino3989]

MJ average 40 in finals... I'd rather be mj

[@Santino3989]

So emotional about the lakers clips... what matters is the facts. The stats and analytics.

[@donnasteele-en2qs]

Are you serious? beating the best team is better than being the best team! No rewards for 2nd place smh you play to win the game did you even hear Old boy when he said that?

[@richardseeley2248]

Dude quit making excuses for ya boy. I'm 64 seen both of them play. On Jordan's worst day he was still better than lebron. Lebrons name shouldn't even be in the conversation when talking about jordan. There's no comparison

[@ric2097]

LeBron accomplished the hardest achievement in pro sports history...he led CLEVELAND to a championship...thats why Jim Brown is the G.O.A.T and why LBJ is the G.O.A.T...

[@pope1207]

SMH your contradicting your own points you said LeBron James is the better basketball player, but Jordans the goat make it make sense.

[@DanYeLL2003]

If you dont have Wilt on your Mt. Rushmore I cant take you seriously.

[@punkem733]

You'll see that a lot with these type of fans. If it happened before 20 years ago, it never happened.

[@coachmikesfilmroom3111]

I might drop wilt and Bill fir larry and Magic. They saved the league after all

[@GregNewkirk-o8h]

@@DanYeLL2003 Mike, Wilt, Kareem, Russell and Larry

[@nathanmckenzie904]

​@@GregNewkirk-o8hsolid mt Rushmore

[@5150Visions]

Bro you sure you aren't a LeBron fan? You kept defending LeBron before dude could finish his point. Like when he use DeAndre as the for example for pure shooting percentage. LeBron fans use this argument every time! So when he put it context it makes prefect since about LeBron only being able to shoot within 0-3 feet. And when suing footage of LeBron lack of defense he use just as many Cavs footage as he did Lakers footage. And I will never for the life of me understand how you pick Jordan as the GOAT but would pic LeBron to start your your 1st pick? 🤣 That so assbackwards. You don't know that when Jordan started at the PG for 11 games he had a triple double in 10 of those games? And his Rookie season he lead the team in points, rebounds, assists, steals & blocks? He seemed too have pained you to mention Jordan as the GOAT at the end of the video, so with that being said you might as well call yourself a LeBron fan at the end of the day. Because if you picking Lebrun over Jordan to start your team then you obviously don't know as much basketball as you think you do.

[@Iamteeski]

Being the goat had nothing to do with what basketball player I want to start my team is you coo? If a draft started today and everybody stats go away I want lebron a position-less guy that I can get any pieces to fit around him. If you can’t understand we don’t need to be talking about ball anyway you too young.

[@rorymvelting]

People in Jordan's era could shoot. But the biggest difference is that there was no 3 second rule for being in the lane. This means that the lane was crowded with legit 7 footers since they had true centers back then.

[@paulmayes76]

I don't care what most people believe but LeBron still sucks I don't care what he's got as achievements this era sucks does error has no competition no defense and the lack of caring about winning it just sucks

[@robertdykema4999]

Anthony Edwards should be in your top 10 right now.

[@RonaldThomas-m8h]

I agree with this 100 percent!

[@paulmayes76]

I'm sorry this era sucks no defense everybody can wander it's not a fun basketball game to watch when everybody shoots threes I don't think nobody in this era should even be in the top 50 because of the rules and there's no competition it sucks

[@raymondsoto6754]

Lebron is a beast but MJ is one of a kind.

[@paulmayes76]

Plus it's not LeBron's excellence it's the other teams just suck because there's no competition there's nobody guarding you so I believe that his peak only to be only a couple years back in the early 2000s he has no peek he's never been the greatest player on any team or in the NBA and in real life he's not even a top 50 player he's maybe top 10 in this era but this era sucks it's not fun to watch it literally sucks

[@paulmayes76]

I'm sorry do you even watch LeBron play all he does is shoot he don't even average seven assists and he can't shoot like literally do you even watch him play the way you think of them that's not LeBron that's not his game he's not that guy

[@dg832]

LeBron is the better basketball player 😂😂😂 is this a comedy channel? 😂

[@jasonjenkins9247]

Game score is not just points. All of your traditional stats are a part of the equation. Points,blocks,rebounds, free throws,steals...

[@Youretheone4ton8ly-cf3ff]

@IamTeeski I don’t understand how you are saying Jordan is the Goat, but then ALSO saying Lebron is the best basketball player, and that he should have just left it there. At whose the Goat. That’s what GOAT means. You lost me there. Jordan is the Goat, therefore, the best basketball player of all time. Bird is ahead of Lebron as well, on an overall level. You have to choose one, otherwise you’re saying both are the Goat

[@derelljackson6056]

Keep doing your thing young fella. After the winning category it's no point finishing the video. Yeah Bron got 1 more chip later after this video but it changes nothing. Great as he is he never won 3 chips in a row. Jordan did that twice against the best in the league at his time. Bron let too many ppl eat on his watch. That alone I can't say he the got forget the terrible defense. What's so wrong with being #2 or just top 5 period that's still a big deal in my opinion.

[@CumpasFilms]

the reason why i would pick MJ is because Jordan has WILL. Jordan would win. Jordan wouldn't quit. Jordan doesnt throw teammates under the bus.

[@algladyou]

Anyone can do a hook shot. But not anyone is consistent. Kareem is pretty tall too.

[@andrewvolf2916]

Jordan is going to get a higher score due to scoring more points? You do know points are how the winner is determined? Lebronwyn might be trying to get ten assists, I am paraphrasing here but you know what you said. You are exactly right, Lebronwyn is going for personal stats while MJ played to win. Everything,, all the time to the detriment of personal relationships. You reckon i am an MJ fan, let's admit that is all Lebronwyn fans have. Was it my Charlotte Hornets 33 or the Miami Heat 33 jersey that gave it away.

[@DrTensley]

"Greatest, almost team, ever" 😂😂

[@_.Username.Not.Found._1]

The fact Lebron was mainly considered an underdog should say enough. Jordan was NEVER that. And Jordan was 32% from 3, Lebron is 34%. And the league softttttt today compared to the 80s/90s lol

[@Iamteeski]

You think 6’8 250 getting bullied back then?

[@kingdeedagreat9650]

Jordan had 9 scoring titles in a row

[@malcolmhodnett8874]

36:49 saying nobody who played in Jordan’s era can shoot is just raw ignorance

[@tudorm6838]

Many people confuse sttistocs in general with total career statistics. The most important are the ones per game. John Sotckton has the most assists, Magic has the most per game. Nobody put Kareem at the top of all statistics just because he had the most points all time before Lebron

[@ericwarren715]

Top five all time Jordan bird magic Kobe Kareem

[@algladyou]

Being the juggernaut is better. It means you are the strongest on each season game and you maintained it. Warriors couldn't do a 3peat. They could have had 4peat if tthey didnt lose. Beating a juggernaut means you go lucky.

[@hakancarlsson2881]

I disagree with the peak argument. Yes he's put up good numbers and played well for a long time but his real peak wasn't 16 years. There's a mile between his mid 20s and his 30s. And his best to worse seasons. His game devolved. Jordan dominated from game 1 till he was 35. He evolved when he had to. I can still give him longevity though. Also, games score isn't just points. It's adding up stats to get a better understanding of performance.

[@fuzzymoteaux]

Watched both careers. MJ easily the GOAT. Kobe number 2. Lebron top 5

[@V12BenzAMG]

if you think MJ couldn't play pass-first-lebron style ball, you need to watch when MJ played point guard for the end of a season....10 triple doubles in 11 games and almost averaged a double double while still scoring 30+points...he could pass if he was asked to... he also avg 11.4 assists in the 1991 finals, more than any other player besides Magic (12.4) and Magic only scored 18.6ppg where MJ still avg 31.2ppg in those finals...so yeah, give me MJ for assists and scoring over Lebron. let's see how MJ does when he's asked to play like Lebron and pass as a point guard: MJ as a point guard performed at an elite level: 1988/89 season Moved Jordan from shooting guard to point guard 1st game = 15 ast 2nd game = 21pts, 14ast, 14reb in 30min playing time because they were up so high...had a shot at the 20/20/20 game if he played the entire game final 24 games as point guard: 30.4ppg 9.2rpg 10.7ast 2.5spg 49.8%fg% 7 straight triple doubles 10 triple doubles in 11 games the one game he didn't get a triple double: 40pts 11ast 7reb 61.1%fg% another notable point guard game: 34pts 17ast (career high) 7reb 6s 50% over a 12 game stretch MJ had 10+ assists Oscar R, Westbrook, Hardin, Kidd never had a streak longer MJ was great at point guard and played like one of the best as he still played perimeter defense (3rd overall in steals per game that season, and 1st team all D, 5th def winshares, 1st def +/-, 5th for DPOY) lost to the Pistons in the finals...fired the coach (collins) and got Phil Jackson and the triangle offense ended the MJ point guard experiment...but he performed as only MJ does...as a TOP TIER point guard! For that season: MJ as a shooting guard (57 games) 33.4ppg, 7.6rpg, 6.9apg, 55.4 MJ as a point guard (24 games) 30.4ppg, 9.2rpg, 10.7apg, 49.8% Notice the increase in assists that people claim MJ can't do? Look at MJs assists for his career: YR AST 1984-85 481 1985-86 53 1986-87 377 1987-88 485 1988-89 650 1989-90 519 1990-91 453 1991-92 489 1992-93 428 1994-95 90 1995-96 352 1996-97 352 1997-98 283 2001-02 310 2002-03 311 his assists were always 300-350-480....except, notice that 650 in there? well, that's when he played point guard...so proof that MJ can be a passer and STILL SCORE 30+ per game!!! and check out his triple doubles: 1984-85 NBA 3 1987-88 NBA 2 1988-89 NBA 15 1989-90 NBA 1 1991-92 NBA 2 1992-93 NBA 4 1996-97 NBA 1 see that 15 stuck in there? that was his point guard experiment where he had almost as much as Lebron's season high (18) playing only 24 games as point guard...imagine how many he'd have playing all 82 games as point guard... MJ has a 27-2 playoff rec...including this insane series 1997 playoff run MJ BULLS 31.1ppg 1st 7.9reb 2nd(behind Rodman by 10...yes, only 10) 4.8ast 1st 1.6stl 1st 0.9blk 1st 6ft6in shooting guard led the Bulls in every catagory but rebounds...and that was to Rodman by 10reb

[@algladyou]

Blocks and steals are mostly because of you. Assist and rebound is because of position and the other person converting it to assist.

[@malcolmhodnett8874]

26:47 what does position-less basketball have to do with this conversation?

[@WoopU4Free]

Denial isnt just a river in Egypt .... keep that head buried in the sand lol