Who is TOYSNHK | FNAF 101

[@Bed_Tom]

i thought the title was "Who is Toy Snhk"

[@seadragonpirate8195]

Same. I was like, is that something from the books 🤣

[@Bed_Tom]

@@seadragonpirate8195 at first i thought "Huh, guess they discovered a hidden file in a fnaf game"

[@Golfballbfdireal]

I thought it was shi-

[@DD-rn4gi]

Same until I realised I was watching a video about the one you shouldn't have killed at the time

[@Starving_indev]

+++Same I was like: "what? A good question - who is toy snhk?"

[@seadragonpirate8195]

Incredible how it takes an entire community to even try to understand some books and games

[@TicTonic96]

True about that dude

[@goossey2307]

This either means that's Scott is a genius or we're all collectively insane 😂

[@peekafch]

Only if FnaF!

[@1Tombb]

Huh

[@TheWholeEntireCake]

My boyfriend is so over listening to me rattle on about FNAF and theories about it, he’s had to listen to me talk about FNAF for the last six years since we got together. “Why do people care about a game that came out in 2014” WE JUST DO.

[@TheWholeEntireCake]

The OST “Sleep No More” sounds like a rhythmic heartbeat. While Afton is in a coma in room 1280, he’s stuck alive and that entails having a beating heart. As long as he is alive he is not sleeping, a coma filled with continuous nightmares. “Sleep No More” is very fitting.

[@porcelainchips6061]

I recently bought the logbook and went over it. I really encourage anyone who can to do the same; it is full of stuff no one talks about. Many you tubers will zero-in on a handful of the pages, while ignoring many of the other ones. I think it's best to go through it yourself and then compare what you get about of it vs. what youtubers get out of it; don't depend on youtubers to tell you what is in the book. A good example is the last page; it's a full-page image that no one every talks about but the implications are worth considering.

[@robertclarahan2766]

What was the picture?

[@porcelainchips6061]

@@robertclarahan2766 It is a variant / wrecked version of an animatronic that is never exactly seen in-game. It is sat in a chair, almost posed and is damaged in it's own particular way.

[@MeemahSN]

@@robertclarahan2766 It’s a broken Chica design that mirrors the Salvaged animatronics during their mini games, but was likely scrapped and replaced with either Scrap Baby or another one of the animatronics. The Chica design probably doesn’t have much significance other than confirming that the Classic animatronics were destroyed.

[@eldritch-tailedfeydeer7320]

Something very important to note that a lot of people glance over: *The princess is no longer named Cassidy in the Princess Quest minigames.* Yes, technically we don't know the reasoning for this, but if they're going to go out of their way to rename the princess from "Cassidy" to just "Princess" and not bother touching any of the other lore bomb names in the files, I think that really says something.

[@duckman9327]

So, people found the name Cassidy, and so they decide to change the lore that Scott has been planning for years? Steel Wool can’t do that, it’s not their power to do so.

[@jarnold]

if only the Princess was obviously Cassidy without the file name

[@eldritch-tailedfeydeer7320]

@@duckman9327 I’m not saying anything is being retconned. We can’t even definitively know if this is a retcon to anything. I’m just drawing attention to something that Steel Wool went out of their way to change for reasons we don’t know. For all we know, it could’ve been Scott himself who requested the change. Maybe it was because we were getting close to the truth and Scott/Steel Wool didn’t want people figuring it out. So they changed the name to get people confused. I don’t think even Scott is a stranger to that; changing minor details just to confuse people (FNaF 4’s “I will put you back together,” text color debacle is just one of many notable examples). Or perhaps maybe the Princess’ name being Cassidy was a mistake made by someone and when the devs and/or Scott saw everyone drawing assumptions based on an incorrect detail, the devs went back and changed her name so that people would stop making incorrect theories based on that mistake. I mean, the Princess was supposed to represent Vanessa in the HW mobile port. Why is she now suddenly symbolic of a completely different character unrelated to Vanessa? Especially when the Princess Quest mini games are still intrinsically tied to Vanessa? You can believe what you want to believe. I’m just throwing a couple possibilities out there.

[@Star-Eyed-Ocean]

I always assumed that was the name of the princess and not actually Cassidy since fnaf reuses names

[@donniejefferson9554]

@@jarnold The princess definitely appears to be the vengeful spirit. It's just a matter of determining that the vengeful spirit and Cassidy are the same person. Theres tons of lore in the game files that gets left in but the name Cassidy was quickly changed. An easy explanation is that whoever added that name in was wrong about the lore so it needed to be taken out when it was discovered. If it was just removed to hide the lore, why did that not happen with any of the other lore dumps in the files?

[@sworishina]

I think the foxy hook is actually for Charlie since she's killed first and separate from the other five. TOYSNHK is Pigpatch instead. His murder is so much more graphic and detailed than all the others. "I'll just wait for him after school, throw a bag over his head, hit him with a shovel, and drag him into the back of my car!" Like uhhhhh... yeah that's a yikes from me dawg. Another reason Chica's first victim from the story couldn't be TOYSNHK is because Withered Chica talks about being the first and having seen everything--and then also about having seen "him, the one you shouldn't have killed". This implies the Vengeful Spirit was one of the MCI kids.

[@skygge6772]

"hit him with a shovel, and drag him into the back of my car", in midnight motorist, we can also see a weird dirt pile that could be an improvised grave for this victim.

[@WereScrib]

What's most bizarre about this from a sort-of-moderate outsider's perspective is how understandable this is when you take into account that Scott is Christian, and not a casual one, but one who has really studied at least his sect of Christianity, and the idea of a 'single unified canon' is not necessarily a single linear story if you understand the Christian concept, of, well, canon. Example: Genesis describes two, slightly different, Creation stories. Goliath, the giant, is killed by two different people. Why? Because the Old Testament is a compiling of two to four different Jewish kingdoms who unified, and redacted and combined their documents. This is not contradicting whats 'truth' within a theological perspective. They are all *true* but may not be understood. Similarly, the Apocrypha is not 'heretical' or 'false' or 'cut from the bible' as many outsiders believe due to a the Da Vinci Code, it's books that are considered theologically or historically deeply relevant but are not part of the canon. Similarly the array of around-canon books are extremely important and vary in canonicity, such as Clement or the Didache. Some of these works are so influential they make up much of the traditions of the major churches. Simply put, the idea that there is a game canon, a book canon, a different book canon, they all have differing details but are all ' the same canon' is not strange. It's a reflection of what canon actually refers to, rather than the strict canons that were primarily invented by Lucasfilm for the old Star Wars EU.

[@TekuJames]

Really good analysis!

[@caywo_]

underrated comment, REALLY underrated

[@blitzes3177]

This is the deepest lore of all… bible lore…

[@LiMe251]

This is great... but the word you're looking for is Continuity.

[@Locketlover]

It’s honestly nice to hear about a theory other than MatPats. I mean this all changes everything of what we know or what MatPat tells us

[@Locketlover]

@@brugdabidbrug3671 true...but it is well put together. And this does change the perspective about the books being canon and golden Freddy and who Cassidy is

[@---oq5kb]

​@@brugdabidbrug3671 source?

[@GhostFNAF]

@@brugdabidbrug3671 I'm not even involved in that situation. Be mad at Under_Score for his mistake all you want, but plz don't link me with whatever is going on

[@jarnold]

@@brugdabidbrug3671 i love spreading misinfo!!

[@Cooe.]

This theory is trash. The books and games don't share the same continuity. Andrew literally doesn't exist in the game series timeline.

[@NepheleButler]

I've watched a lot of FNAF videos, and I've noticed that a lot of people use that quote from Henry as evidence that Charlotte was Afton's first victim. But isn't it possible that she was just the first death Henry knew about?

[@shadowmarionette9397]

Charlie (Or at least the puppet) was always the first victim of Afton (Or at least purple guy).

[@blueroses4767]

and Chica literally says she was the first...

[@shadowmarionette9397]

@@blueroses4767 Susie was the first victim of the missing children’s incident, but not the first victim as a whole. Charlie was the first victim as a whole.

[@flickyfkosstitcher8547]

@@shadowmarionette9397 I just like how when it came to Matt's theories from FNaF 2 to 3 he said the puppet was first, FNaF 4 he was proposing that CC could be the puppet (striped top and night 4 kneeing matching the Shadow Marionette from Mangle's FNaF 3 mini-game), and his 2018 timeline remarks about the wanted posters in the Security Puppet mini-game, along with the FNaF 1 newpapers, shows that MCI1 was potentially before Charlie's death.

[@PShrekky]

​​@@flickyfkosstitcher8547 In the fourth closet it says Charlotte Emily 1980-1983

[@tomkubus]

Another point I also recently discovered is that toyshnk got burned more than once, and since Cassidy is in molten freddy, she only got burned once unless the fnaf VR minigames is canon, and since Andrew was with William the whole time (or maybe possessed spring bonnie AMD entered William in follow me) and willaim was burned twice, it would make sense for him to be vs, same could technically work for sammy

[@Auubreygraham]

there is nothing to suggest that Andrew possessed spring bonnie. also, couldn't Cassidy's spirit have been like, split in half or something? how could the souls of the MCI force William into spring bonnie and be in the funtimes at the same time? part of her spirit could be stuck in Fazbear's fright & part of her remnant injected into the funtimes. that way, she could be burnt twice. idk, just a theory

[@tomkubus]

@@Auubreygraham but why show one thing is specifically the case when it isn't, also Andrew possessing spring bonnie would be possible since 1. It's the only way for him to get in William, and 2. It's the only suit left, we know from the DCI that William uses both fredbear and spring bonnie to kill so he did stuff a kid into a suit he uses already, and also Cassidy leaves while William is getting tortured in omc while golden Freddy leaves at 49/20, while ucn ends at 50-56/20, or even after that

[@tomast7339]

as one of the original AngrewGames theories, I want to say thank you so much! This video explains very well why Andrew is indeed the mad spirit. I was gonna to write here on the comments a long essay about Andrew but you did such an amazing job that I don't need to you made a treasure for the slowly growing AndrewGames team

[@sebastianszyrwinski9325]

@tomast7339 Andrew doesn't make any sense in games timeline

[@tomast7339]

@@sebastianszyrwinski9325 You think not I think yes

[@sebastianszyrwinski9325]

@@tomast7339 Well okay, but then where do we see his death in the games? Who is Golden Freddy and what is his role? And what is Cassidy's role?

[@tomast7339]

​@@sebastianszyrwinski9325 Andrew's death was metaphored in UCN when we see Toy Chica killing seven people. which means that Andrew is a secret victim of William (at least to the player) which won't be the first time that the games added new victims for William. the ballpit from the books is not a time machine but a memory that became gruesome (compers to the real life) because of the agony that was created when Eleanor trapped her victims souls inside of the balls. the ballpit memory shows six victims. the 6th victim is not Charlie, since the ballpit is a memory, it means the victim has to die in 1985 when William wore a Spring Bonnie suit. Charlie died in 1983 when William did not wore it (and also, the graphic novel shows that the 6th victim is a boy and not a girl). However, while Andrew died in a Freddy's restorant, it was not the one we see in the games. the books tells us that Freddy's was a chain. Why it is important? because one of the rules of the FNAF games is that the spirits always wear the masks of the animatronics they used to posses. Andrew is wearing a gator mask. and Edwin designed a gator animatronic for another Freddy's restorant. which means that Andrew was stuffed inside that gator animatronic (or at least wore the mask when he died). And keep in mind that this is not the first time that a character appears in the games but only the books give context and lore to this character. FF books are doing the same thing with Shadow Bonnie (AKA Eleanor). and if Andrew is not that gator animatronic, he simply begin to stalk William until he has the opportunity to get his revenge. and with one of the lines in UCN it was hinted that Andrew followed William even during fnaf 3 Andrew is not Golden Freddy. so far we don't know if the body was seen in the Golden Freddy suit in TNK is indeed Andrew. so why we do see GF in UCN ending? it either a recreation of GF, same as Andrew recreated the other animatronics. or Cassidy was indeed in UCN, but OMC told her to leave. so she moved on and left Andrew (and unknowingly Eleanor) to mess with William. Golden Freddy is Cassidy. this is a fact now. since the first game it was established that Golden Freddy is the 5th kid. Cassidy revealed to be the 5th kid, therefore she is Golden Freddy. she was the one who killed Phone Guy, she was the one who chased William into Spring Bonnie, she is the one who got the happiest day and she is the one who destroyed the Afton part of the MImic (AKA Glitchtrap) and saved Vanessa. Cassidy does not have to be the mad spirit to have an important role. in fact, the mad spirit's goal is to keep William alive, which is contredict Cassidy's goal: killing William and fun fact: a year ago, the metadata of the books was leaked. Scott planned TALES books since 2019, before the first teaser of SB was dropped. and the metada also reveal that many FF stories were already written during the development of UCN. Andrew was in Scott's mind during UCN development, the game that introduce to us a new murder victim who wants to keep William alive.

[@sebastianszyrwinski9325]

​@@tomast7339 1 How do we know it's a metaphor? 2 I know, that Ballpit is a gathering of memories/agony 3 Well, books, but how can we be sure that this is also the case in games? 4 Shadow Bonnie very different from Eleanor, so I wouldn't say 5 Andrew is not visible in Follow Me 6 The New Kid , the title itself says that this is a new victim. I think Scott wanted to suggest this to Andrew before TMIR1280 7 That's probably not what the OMC cutscene was about. OMC says "sit with me" and "leave the demon to his demons" which means that only when redbear sits next to OMC will he leave the demons, but this does not happen because canonically Redbear enters the lake 8 Okay, but If Scott planned Andrew before or during UCN's development, why didn't he ever suggest him in the games before?What's the point of this whole meta story with Stichwraith and all, if we don't have any mention of it in the games anyway?Besides, if he is a new character, why does he only appear in one game, never before or since? Charlie, Cassidy and even Suzie were also new threads for the games, and yet we have time and time again references to the fact that they exist in the continuity of the games: Charlie appears in FFPS, the script, and the AftonSillos door files. Cassidy in the Logbook, in the scenario and in the game files from Princess Quest. And Suzie in FFPS and Coming home. Doesn't it seem more logical to you that this mystery with Cassidy's name and the reveal of the Vengeful Spirit right after was supposed to indicate to us that they were the same thing? Additionally, our main source for theorizing are games, and in games where do we see Andrew's death? Well, nowhere exactly. We can't assume he exists in the games when we only know about him from books. Eleanor ok, because she appeared in Frailty probably and in SB Furrys rage, but Andrew? Not once, and the cutscenes with Toy Chica are too small an argument.

[@WatchThisSpace415]

The thing is with Andrew being TOYSNHK is that it means that out of this roster of 50 animatronics + 6 secret animatronics, the one that's keeping William in this Hell is not Golden Freddy, not any of those characters but a victim of William's murders we hadn't even known about. That's a really strange narrative choice, is it not? Besides, William's body count has stayed constant since FNAF 2. (with the possible exception of the Funtime animatronics which automated the process and probably killed more but that's not very personal.) Why at the very end of the series would he introduce another MCI victim? Was there really no other kid in the MCI alone who could've filled that role?

[@Togrulsdli-cz9no]

But Andrevv is a book character

[@killerman3715]

​@@Togrulsdli-cz9noAndrew appear ucn kid Cassidy is book character she never appears games

[@zeleeba8774]

@@killerman3715 Princess called Cassidy in the game files, Cassidy was in a logbook, it's a canon for games.

[@killerman3715]

@@zeleeba8774 princess quest never says Cassidy is princess File name Cassidy just mistake then next update remove Cassidy name from fnaf security breach but they keep Charlie door

[@zeleeba8774]

@@killerman3715 There was a story in TFP, where a black-haired ghost from the 70s or 80s lived in the slot machine (an obvious sends to Cassidy, she is black-haired and from the 80s, an obvious parallel to the Princess living in the slot machine). We take into account that TFP is a canon for games.

[@orangeinkius7257]

Your editing is absolutely incredible, it has this very eerie style that's quite unique

[@agonyremnanttrap6789]

For me, it depends on if Fazbear Frights is in the same continuity as the games or not. If they are in the same continuity with each other, then I think it would have to be Andrew. But if not, then Cassidy.

[@75JUNAKI]

I think that some books may be connected, but others aren’t. If the StichWraith is linked to almost every book, this it can’t be connected to the games because that’d mean al the books would have to be too, thats more then some.

[@erickamakeeaina1649]

My issue with Stitchline games idea where those are in game continutity is that it's sort of impossible for Glitchtrap to exist in the Frights continuity. Afton's soul was pretending to be stronger then it was and was only still in reality because of Eleanor. She abandons him and Afton dies for good this time in a lake.

[@Pliumorsomething]

@@erickamakeeaina1649 That could potentially be answered depending on the direction they're gonna take with the mimic from tales from the pizzaplex

[@Whoiscassie]

No its not. Scott confirmed it, the books and the games are not connected whatsoever, but he said it can confirm stuff about the games.

[@erickamakeeaina1649]

@@Pliumorsomething Depends on where it goes then

[@Cxsonn]

Well, I mean, Cassidy has to be at least as partially responsible for UCN, and if it is Andrew, he has to be Golden Freddy as it is confirmed TOYSNHK is Golden Freddy.

[@tomkubus]

No it's not, if anything golden freddy being toyshnk is debunked, at best its heavily implied to be untrue

[@Cxsonn]

@@tomkubus Respectfully, I believe otherwise. A recent piece of merchandise heavily implies it, and UCN does, too.

[@tomkubus]

​@@Cxsonn last I checked all the merch implied Is golden freddy being Cassidy, not Vs

[@Cxsonn]

@@tomkubus The YouTooz figure pretty much confirms Golden Freddy is the VS. It has a quote on the box that says “He’s here and always watching,” referring to Mangle’s voice line.

[@tomkubus]

​@@Cxsonn ah, well I remember in a separate piece if merch that seemed to confirm Cassidy being golden Freddy Scott said that merch isn't lire related to technically canon, so ye

[@flickyfkosstitcher8547]

24:51 Foxy's hook being the bag is meant to signify that Fritz was already dead, and Twisted Wolf is in the cutscenes as Suzie's representative; this is evident because Toy Chica is not only portrayed as the representive of Afton in these scenes, but it's Suzie's dog that's dead. Speaking of, in the order that they're shown, Toy Chica's crushes/Afton's victims were: Foxy=Fritz, Freddy=Gabriel, Wolf=Suzie, Bonnie=Jeremy, Funtime Foxy=an unknown victim or Andrew (Toy Chica obesses over Funtime Foxy's eyes, and Andrew can't see while in the Stitchwrath), Marionette=Charlie, and Pigpatch=Cassidy. 37:01 The job posting for The Vengeful Spirit states the following, "Gender: Female"; this information in itself confirms either that TOYSNOK is not a male (making the he/him pronouns a distraction), TOYSNHK is non-binary/gender-fluid, or TOYSNHK is not The Vengeful Spirit.

[@Sketch-ic6jf]

I'm pretty sure the female gender in the job posting is referring to the actress, not the character.

[@flickyfkosstitcher8547]

@@Sketch-ic6jf The gender is by default listed under a character's basic information, along with their name, age range etc. in job postings. This basic information can then be elaborated on in the "Character Description" section; in this case, Scott remarked that The Vengeful Spirit's gender shouldn't be immediately apparent, and to read her lines as the VA themselves see fit.

[@LewsTherinTelescope]

It feels like the order should be significant there, but I don't know that it actually is. Henry specifically says the wound was first inflicted on him, implying Charlotte was first. Even if we ignore that, _Susie_ claims to be first in UCN itself. Fritz being first doesn't really fit with anything else we're told.

[@jarnold]

"I was the first"

[@flickyfkosstitcher8547]

@@LewsTherinTelescope I agree, the order we're shown the victims seems odd; heck, even Pizza Party from FNaF VR seems to imply that the mini-game is played from the persepective of Gabriel, given as Bonnie and Chica are already stuffed (anyone's guess whichever order), foxy's on the floor, we're in Freddy Fazbear when on-stage, and Golden Freddy is nowere to be seen. In fact, in the Give Gifts mini-game from FNaF 2, the order that they're given life is Chica, Freddy, Foxy, and Bonnie, and then GF shows up for the jumpscare; this likely indicates that Cassidy already possessed GF without Charlie's help.

[@elliotnutella8044]

This video was really worth the wait, I think these are some of the most underrated FNAF theory videos tbh, they deserve way more recognition and this as a perfect example of that, as a really well edited and constructed video on what I would confidently the call definitive take on The One You Shouldn't Have Killed's identity. Fantastic work!

[@peekafch]

Unless the game explicitly says Andrew is in the lore, I'm not buying it.

[@TheGreenPig321]

In 1280 William spews “black blood” when in Arthur’s car according to the wiki. Could this gave connections to the Fox?

[@Xo_Beanie_MorningStar_Xo]

This whole video had me with mixed emotions at every time she mentions TOYSNHK

[@piratebones9641]

I don't see how Dreadbear is a parallel to Molten freddy, maybe you could make a short about that, there's just to many connections between Curse of Dreadbear and the Aftons; Corn Maze has a Grimm reaper fox as main antagonist, the dark ride and build a Mangle also focus on foxes, foxes connect to Michael, the hallway level connect to the FNaF4 bedroom, the 3 'Danger! Keep out' level are in a recreation of the FNaF1 location, the treat or trick level has the mask that Michael and his friends used in FNaF4, then we have dreadbear who is about the brain which connect to the CC, Dreadbear comes out of a lake mirroring how the FNaFWorld protagonist goes into a lake to reach 'Happiest's Day', Dreadbear use to be seen looming over the FNaF4 menu house before it was change to GlitchTrap

[@75JUNAKI]

40:22 Aren’t the Fazbear Frights book suppose to be parallels? Didn’t Scott say that some books are cannon (or connected) to the games, not all? If the StichWraith stories are cannon then so are the other stories. So at least SOME are, while OTHERS aren’t. Idk, I heard it somewhere. Novels I don’t think are in the same games timeline. 42:09 I mean, the games have a book counterpart, but…that doesn’t mean they’re exactly the same. Like how theres different Sonic the Hedgehog continuities, like Sonic the Comics, Archie comics, Boom Sonic, ect ect.

[@75JUNAKI]

@@glamrockfriend Does VS stand for Shattered Victim (aka Evan, the name I used cause it reminds me of EvanTubeHD?)

[@Sketch-ic6jf]

Scott never said that Fazbear Frights was used for parallels, the fans came up with that. Frights was made to solve the games' lore.

[@chickenboi09]

@@75JUNAKI i would assume VS means vengeful spirit

[@dumbly-stupid]

​@@Sketch-ic6jf scott said the books are used to solve loos ends and said some were canon

[@duckman9327]

Fazbear Frights isn’t parallels, that’s a fan created thing. Scott’s own words is that some of the stories connect directly to the games, others not. The ones that connect directly to the games are stitchline, the ones that don’t are the outliers.

[@penners7046]

31:10 you point out a fucking amazing point and i was shocked it wasnt leading where i thought it was. with the mentions of UCN's music titles having relevance to the plot, it is important to note that the Customization Screen's theme is titled "Eisoptrophobia". Eisoptrophobia is the fear of seeing your own reflection. And William's worst nightmare would be going against someone who was Just Like Him. Andrew. kzbin.info/www/bejne/g4DXhJhpmc2Ca8k

[@freegracetruth77]

This is a great video, and it is very comprehensive. However, I don't agree with Andrew being part of the game universe. While it is true that a lot of characters that are in the game timeline came from the books, it should be noted that in all of those cases, the characters were directly referenced to in the games following their appearances in the books, like with Afton being 'purple guy's' name in the silver eyes, and this being made canon in sister location, or with charlotte being henry's daughter in those books and pizzeria simulator heavily implying that the cassette man is henry by saying charlotte is his daughter in the ending speech. This isn't really the case for Andrew, though. There really isnt anything in the games suggesting a 6th MCI victim, or even a seventh victim, as we've been told time and time again by the games that the MCI involved five children, with charlotte being the 6th child, who was killed before the others, and we only see 6 gravestones at the end of pizzeria simulator. Also, I think that the player hearing William being tortured in the old man consequences scene doesnt prove that Andrew was still torturing William while cassidy chose to leave. I think the minigame symbolizes cassidy finally deciding to move on from her hate and have her "happiest day" while William is burning in hell. So William's screaming being heard in the minigame is William in hell (hence, the line "leave the demon to his demons.") Andrew's canonicity is still possible, but I find it unlikely, as Andrew's inclusion would feel more like an unnecessary character being shoehorned into the story, unless Scott can effectively tie him into the games somehow. Idk, maybe the movie will give us a clear answer.

[@orang9134]

great comment, after the movie, I personally think andrew is just a parallel to Cassidy.

[@DJ-AIDAN]

A very well done and well edited video! You gave fair criticisms to each theory and gave evidence to each theory. Amazing video!

[@teddybear4441]

Finally Someone that agrees with me with Andrew being TOYSNHK. I love this video. I also think the The crying child possesses Funtime Freddy you?

[@Cooe.]

... Except Andrew literally doesn't exist in the games continuity, only the books. Both mediums aren't the same timeline.

[@teddybear4441]

@@Cooe. The books Connect to the games prove by ggy

[@Cooe.]

@@teddybear4441 Connect ≠ same continuity. That's no more proof than both continuity's having a "William Afton" character... 🤦 Just because there's a Gregory in both timelines doesn't mean they are the EXACT SAME Gregory. Use your damn brain. Again SCOTT ALREADY TOLD US MULTIPLE TIMES THEY AREN'T THE SAME CONTINUITY! CAN YOU NOT FUCKING READ OR SOMETHING??? O_o Also lol only total losers upvote their own posts. 🤣

[@bbypookiee]

I also theorize that Crying Child possesses Funtime Freddy. One, besides Circus Baby, Funtime Freddy is the only other animatronic that has a child in his stomach. Also his voice lines reference a birthday boy a lot. In the logbook, Crying Child seems to be meeting Cassidy for the first time since on of the questions he asked was, "What is your name?" something he would know if they knew each other beforehand.

[@tomkubus]

​@@Cooe. ignore tales games being cifnrjemd in security breach and in the old descruotuin and therefore stichline games being confirmed in frailty, aminitronic apocalypse and in scotts post

[@randomdud2319]

what if you wanted to go to heaven, but god said: Connection terminated. I’m sorry to interrupt you, Elizabeth, if you still even remember that name, But I’m afraid you’ve been misinformed. You are not here to receive a gift, nor have you been called here by the individual you assume, although, you have indeed been called. You have all been called here, into a labyrinth of sounds and smells, misdirection and misfortune. A labyrinth with no exit, a maze with no prize. You don’t even realize that you are trapped. Your lust for blood has driven you in endless circles, chasing the cries of children in some unseen chamber, always seeming so near, yet somehow out of reach, but you will never find them. None of you will. This is where your story ends. And to you, my brave volunteer, who somehow found this job listing not intended for you, although there was a way out planned for you, I have a feeling that’s not what you want. I have a feeling that you are right where you want to be. I am remaining as well. I am nearby. This place will not be remembered, and the memory of everything that started this can finally begin to fade away. As the agony of every tragedy should. And to you monsters trapped in the corridors, be still and give up your spirits. They don’t belong to you. For most of you, I believe there is peace and perhaps more waiting for you after the smoke clears. Although, for one of you, the darkest pit of Hell has opened to swallow you whole, so don’t keep the devil waiting, old friend. My daughter, if you can hear me, I knew you would return as well. It’s in your nature to protect the innocent. I’m sorry that on that day, the day you were shut out and left to die, I couldn’t save you, so let me save you now. It’s time to rest - for you, and for those you have carried in your arms. This ends for all of us. End communication

[@W.golden_editz246]

This is great but Andrew being the one that William should not have killed is wrong since the frights aren’t canon to the games in the slightest and we don’t have to touch the ultimate guide to know That

[@Sketch-ic6jf]

Who said Frights wasn't canon?

[@W.golden_editz246]

@@Sketch-ic6jf in the ultimate guide it said that even though it is not completely reliable

[@killerman3715]

Fazbear fright canon 20/100 to games Scott confirmed it

[@rataandyanimations]

This didn't aged well

[@wrlddstryr]

sat here for five minutes trying to remember when a character named “toysnhk” was introduced

[@wintdah7778]

My main problem with Cassidy not being TOYSNHK, is that other than the pronous thing, there's basically no solid evidence, most of it is just alternative interpretations and speculation, nothing nearly as strong as the final cut scene or literally being punished for trying to kill Golden Freddy

[@tomkubus]

Well sxott did say that the voice for toyshnk (female) isnt canon while he implied games pronouns (male) are, and he calls toyshnk a he when he talks about the photo of toyshnk, which basically confirms it's a boy Golden freddy twitches while ucn ks happening, so they're probably upset because it's happening, like how ghost said Cassidy being upset since she wants him dead

[@zeleeba8774]

@@tomkubus he never said this, and this Vengeful Spirit voice, not TOYHNK

[@tomkubus]

​@@zeleeba8774 he did, and vengeful spirit is toyshnk

[@Thecon3head]

There actually is evidence not mentioned here. In the Toy Chica cutscenes it explains how William lures and kills each kid. In the 6th cutscene Chica talks about brutally murdering one of the animatronics. This is most likely TOYSNHK, and the thing is, it's the 6th cutscene, implying that 6 kids died and the 6th became TOYSNHK. The 6th has to be Andrew, the forgotten victim

[@duckman9327]

There’s actually an entire series of books (12) that all have another character as being toyshnk🦦

[@LewsTherinTelescope]

I actually don't agree Toy Chica: The High School Years suggests that TOYSNHK is the first victim anyway. Six during the game and one before fits very neatly if you take it as six victims during the MCI and Charlotte before the rest. Also fits with the sticky note room, which has two different notes that each have six things together and one to the side (six tallies bunched up and one on its own, and six faces lined up with one off to the corner). So Andrew is probably just another kid who died on that night, in my opinion (and it's possible Midnight Motorist is showing us why the news thinks there were only five: his family thinks he ran away and doesn't care enough to report him missing). Regarding the body in The New Kid: curly black hair isn't exactly unique, but it doesn't match Cassidy's description while it _does_ match Andrew, and he does tend to be behind most of the other things going on in the early Frights books (at least before Eleanor comes in and suddenly everything becomes her instead even though it explicitly was him). So I do think he's got some association to Golden Freddy, though Cassidy clearly also does. Not sure how to reconcile that, it's definitely what I see as the biggest weakness in the theory. Plus, I feel like the implications of Golden Freddy being the final cutscene aren't exactly super subtle. And the way he's twitching about like Springtrap in the FNaF3 trailer (but more feebly, as if it's a smaller, weaker person trapped) seems to me like it's trying to answer the question of "why is this one spirit so much more vengeful than the rest": because William killed Andrew by triggering the springlocks with him inside, dooming him to a very slow and painful death that he can't do anything to stop or even hurry along-William's reminiscing in The Silver Eyes is _brutal_ to read. Otherwise, good points, great video!

[@LewsTherinTelescope]

@@shruqabdullah5036 Well, FuntimeMCI does explain the Funtimes and Ennard. But there's no way for them to know of the Nightmares, yeah. But then, there's also no way for them to know of Five Nights at Freddy's either, yet Toy Freddy plays a parody. So perhaps the gameplay is just not quite canonical.

[@LewsTherinTelescope]

@@shruqabdullah5036 I did not say they don't know Toy Freddy. I said they don't know *Five Nights at Freddy's* which Toy Freddy's mechanic references by name.

[@LewsTherinTelescope]

@@shruqabdullah5036 Yes, the game. It's referred to as "Five Nights With Mr. Hugs". We know eventually the Five Nights at Freddy's games do get made, but that's a while after Ultimate Custom Night, and I doubt Cassidy/Andrew can see the future.

[@LewsTherinTelescope]

​@@shruqabdullah5036 And it just coincidentally happened to have nearly the same title as the actual later games?

[@Thecon3head]

Keep in mind in the first cutscene Foxys hook is already in the bag, meaning there were actually seven victims. Leaving room for the OG 5 and Charlie but who else? Andrew

[@oblitusflipsideb3ar174]

Tbh, It still kinda weird for me if Andrew was actually a part of the main franchise, since fnaf 1 it was alway's established that there was only 5 kids that died during the MCI, so or he died at an diffrent time (maybe an year before or after, between Charlie's death and MCI) or there was an actual retcon on the 1985 MCI but tbf, I really think that maybe there was more than one soul in UCN, mainly because of The Blob existence in fnaf sb, so maybe some of the souls got out of control with the revenge thing, becaming an full amalgam of vengeful spirits and agony born from the leftover wires from Molten Freddy

[@darktrapv.1384]

We don't know where Andrew dies but we know he kid number 7 or number 1 Charlie number 2

[@JavaBallAnimation]

what is MCI? Marvel cinematic intruiging nonetheless?

[@Whoiscassie]

@@darktrapv.1384 no Andrew died in 1985, so did the 5 missing children in FNaF 1, though there was another missing children accident in 1987, is most likely not part of it, meaning Andrew is not in the games whatsoever

[@darktrapv.1384]

@@Whoiscassie kid number 7 from games not from 1985

[@Whoiscassie]

@@darktrapv.1384 kid number 7 died in 1985 😭 IN THE GAMES meaning kid number 7 doesn’t exist

[@esWhistler]

I don't get how the man in the room 1280 makes the vengeful spirit = TOYSNHK, it just seems to indicate TOYSNHK ≈ Andrew to me, where is the vengeful spirit picked up?

[@verdantmistral442]

A minor comment. It is possible that Henry is wrong about the wound being first inflicted on him. UCN's Toy Chica cutscenes as you point out, may reference that there is an unknown victim. Someone that even Henry is not aware of. The thing that bothers me is Withered Chica. Withered Chica claims to have seen everything. Why? What is the significance? The Security Logbook also had that one page at the end with the super Withered Chica on it. Which implies something. Another thing that I guess I question is the order of Toy Chica's victims. Specifically, when the Puppet is attacked. It is kind of weird that the Puppet is included. I mean if they were supposed to represent the six murders, the order seems to suggest that either the order shown isn't accurate to the real order or that the order we know isn't correct. I'm not sure, but maybe figuring out the order is somehow important.

[@tomkubus]

I think that the previous one is Charlotte, as she dies before the mci while the other 6 die togather

[@bananamanjunior7575]

Is the book in her bed is supposed to be Charlie.

[@nguyenanhphuong734]

There's something of note that you don't really go into. "Greeting from the fire and from the one you should not have killed." "... no matter how many time they burn us." These lines suggest that toysnhk is within one of the burnt animatronics. This doesn't discount Andrew being toysnhk (I'm pretty sure I've seen a video about him sharing Golden Freddy with Cassidy before) though if he is, he probably the game counterpart of the one we see in the book than literally him. I agree about BV not having much connection to Golden Freddy. He did get bitten by Fredbear but he didn't die right away and logically, there's no chance of his body getting near any of the animatronics after he died. Another thing is his conversation with Cassidy in Michael's logbook. While she recognized him or at least seems to know about him, he didn't recognize her at all, hence the "Who are you? What is your name?" in the word puzzle. Considering the timeline, even if he has memory problem, he should recognize someone he's shared a body with for several years. This is why I no longer believe in Golden Duo theory.

[@tomkubus]

That could be explained by the fact Cassidy aka molten freddy was only in 1 fire in fnaf 6, while in ucn we are told toyshNK and afton have been through more than one, and both Andrew and sammy would be burned in fnaf 3 and 6, so it makes more sense for that to be evidence for them being toyshnk

[@nguyenanhphuong734]

@@shruqabdullah5036 Elizabeth died inside Circus Baby, it’s unknown what became of her corpse but we know she possessed Circus Baby. Similarly, William died inside Springtrap though it’s a bit unclear whether he possessed the suit or his corpse. Charlie was killed outside the restaurant and approached by the Puppet after that. The missing children were put inside the animatronic after they were killed. They are all the (in-game) confirmed possessions that we know of and they’re all within or near an animatronic at the time of their death or shortly afterward, whether they are killed by the animatronic has nothing to do with it. C.C didn’t die when he was bitten, he was implied to die in a hospital which is nowhere near an animatronic and I doubt that anyone would take his corpse close to one after he died. The Fredbear plush is weird. There are several theories regarding what’s up with it but nothing official. Let’s go with the idea that they were selecting a candidate for C.C to possess at the end of the conversation in C.C’s mind. To quote Fredbear: “We’re still your friends. Do you still believe that?”. The “friends” here are the literal plushies that were present at the moment, who C.C also referred to as his friends at an earlier point. So if C.C were going to possess something, it would be one of his beloved plushies (like Jake from “The Real Jake” did before he ended up in the Stitchwraith) instead of the animatronic he was afraid of. Theoretically, he could somehow find his way to Golden Freddy via the Fredbear plush but unless we get undisputed evidence or confirmation that he did possess an animatronic at some point, saying all the ways that could happen is merely speculating. The whole “I will put you back together” can be interpreted as doing the same thing Charlie did to the missing children: bringing C.C back by having him possess a vessel. But it could also mean something different such as when Michael talked about putting his sister back together despite her already possessing Circus Baby. And it may be just me focusing on the little details but “I will put you back together” instead of “I’m going to put you back together” give me the feeling that the speaker, despite wanting to save the child, simply didn’t know how to do it at that point. The fact that it was said again in the Clock Ending of Fnaf World sounds like the speaker reassuring C.C’s spirit that he will eventually be “put back together”. And last, the logbook. It appeared to belong to Mike around the time of Fnaf 1 in 1993, which is ten years after C.C’s death. The year of the missing children incident is unclear but widely believed to be 1985. The gist of the Golden Duo theory is that the fifth victim in MCI ( Cassidy) and C.C both possess the animatronic know as Golden Freddy after their respective deaths, both of which happened years before their conversation in Mike’s logbook. If they had been sharing Golden Freddy for years, they should know things like who the other was, the state they were in, and what each of them remember from their lives. Yet we see Cassidy asked C.C about what he remembered, not even difficult details but basic things like his name and favorite toy, and what he noticed about his surroundings or if he still talked to Fredbear. C.C meanwhile did not recognize her at all, asking who she was and at times seemed to not get her questions. In other words, they sound like they just meet. For reference, take Andrew and Jake from the book. Both of them have trouble recalling the lives they had but have little problem remembering what happened after they died. They appeared to be very aware of one another. Sorry for the rambling, I hope I’m clearer on the parts that confused you. I originally didn’t go into too many details since it’s not related to the topic of the video.

[@nguyenanhphuong734]

@@shruqabdullah5036 I’m not terribly clear on the concept of Remnant and Agony so I read their wiki pages. “Remnant is the term for a soul infused with and possessing inanimate objects, making it the reason behind the paranormal occurrences in the animatronics.” “Agony is a type of emotion having a central role in the Fazbear Frights series.” “Much of what we know about agony comes from the studies of Phineas Taggart. He collected objects that were near the site of a tragedy, such as torture devices and items located near to murder sites. This causes them to appear "haunted", despite not being possessed by a ghost.” From the look of it, they don’t seem to be the same thing though it’s noted that Agony is similar to Dark Remnant. So if C.C’s agony was left in Golden Freddy, it could became haunted but his soul is not necessary there. Personally, I believe that C.C’s soul latched onto his older brother similar to Andrew did with William since Michael was near C.C shortly before his death, though I rather not go deeper into that to avoid another ramble. I’ve seen people brought up Fnaf 3 before. I don’t have much to say about it. Someone did argue that it could be due to the angle of the head giving the impression of two lights instead of one, which doesn’t seem improbable to me. About Golden Freddy’s endoskeleton, there are actually several post on Reddit about him actually having one, just a bit difficult to see. You could check them out if you like.

[@nguyenanhphuong734]

@@shruqabdullah5036 Seriously, I don’t know :>. I just came across those posts at some point and were reminded of them when you mention Golden Freddy ‘s endoskeleton. Figure I mention it to ya, that’s all.

[@nguyenanhphuong734]

@@shruqabdullah5036 Well, I have a theory but talking about it likely leads to a never-ending discussion here so I rather not to do that. Though based on that video about the identity of whoever talked to C.C through Fredbear, it’s not a popular theory.

[@TheFirstRamenKamen]

Bruh. I had a feeling that Sammy “the retconned twin” had a major key in this series

[@terreliv]

Mm, also, Bear of Vengeance mentions the Fox's robes turning from white to pink - could be a Pink Guy theory joke?

[@DarkShadic9632]

Alright, in theory, this video is good. But there’s one big issue. The Stitchwraith stingers CAN’T be in the same continuity as the games. There’s just no way. It would literally shatter the entire timeline, right down to the VERY FIRST SET OF MURDERS. We know for a FACT that the MCI in the games had 5 total victims. This has been confirmed over and over again. However, in the Stitchline, it’s stated multiple times that the MCI (which technically isn’t even an MCI, the kids are not missing and are confirmed to be found dead lined up against the wall, meanwhile the bodies aren’t found in the game MCI) has 6 victims. This isn’t even mentioning all of the other lore-breaking issues, that’s just the biggest one.

[@Sketch-ic6jf]

You do know that the MCI kids in ITP were killed in a private room so there's no way for the public to see the bodies, right?...

[@tomkubus]

Ye, ucn, fnaf world, security breach and curse kf fredbear totally dont say there are 6 kids who died together and another on seperate, meaning 6 mci kids, also if you've read the book you would see no one saw dead kids they where kind up on a wall in a backstage room with many corridors between it and the main room, Oswald runs for a whole page to get out if there, people are scared of the big scary bunny

[@DarkShadic9632]

@@tomkubus the separate death was not part of the MCI. It’s been stated in canon time and time again that the MCI claimed 5 victims. That’s not groundbreaking information. The separate death was the first victim of Afton, otherwise known as Charlie. You know. The Puppet? This isn’t a groundbreaking revelation. FNaF 1 tells us there’s five victims, FNaF 2 shows that one child is killed prior, completely unrelated to the MCI, who then becomes the Puppet. Lumping the sixth grave in FNaF 6 in with the MCI completely eliminates any representation of the Puppet in the intended final scene of the series, in a game which was fully intended to wrap everything up. Unless you’re gonna try to tell me that Cassidy isn’t a victim in the MCI, in which case, I implore you to think about how the lore of the games would relate to the real world timeline of events. In FNaF 6, the grave used to represent Golden Freddy has the name obscured. Soon after, the Survival Logbook releases, featuring the Golden Freddy kid in a prominent role. She then gives us clues to her name: Cassidy. Boom! Every kid has a name, the lore is complete. And then, in UCN, the Golden Freddy kid is tormenting William Afton; hey, what do you know, that kid’s name is Cassidy! It’s simple, it’s easy, it makes sense. AND THEN OUT OF NOWHERE, a book series which hadn’t even been announced when FNaF 6 released comes in and reveals some random extra kid who was ACTUALLY Golden Freddy the whole time and had no set up whatsoever! Cassidy didn’t actually matter at all, she was just a… what, a misdirect? See, I’m trying to talk from your perspective, and I’m just confusing myself at this point. What is the point of Cassidy’s name being revealed? If Andrew’s the One You Should Not Have Killed, then like… what’s the point? It’s not like Cassidy would do anything in the plot under that logic.

[@Thecon3head]

The stingers literally have to be in the same continuity as the games because Tales from the pizzaplex (which is in the same continuity as the games) features a victim of Eleanor in Frailty. Meaning the stingers are in the same continuity as the games

[@adammartinez8061]

@@Thecon3head Even though I haven’t read The Stitchline books….Considering what happens at the end of the final Stitchline book, I think this could explain in SB why The Puppets eye sockets are empty, why they aren’t glowing like that others in the Blob. Because it did it’s Job already, Afton is dead. Charlie passed on.

[@kalkuttadrop6371]

So...wait isn't this basically Blackfootferret's theory except with Andrew instead of Shadow Bonnie?

[@tartra]

It was awesomo seeing all the collabs, but oof, everyone was coming in at a different volume! 😅 Loooots of having to move it up and down

[@Shadowmouse1277]

Ucn is a team effort between Cassidy and the bite victim or maybe more of Cassidy manipulating the bite victim. Cassidy puts the bite victim back together but gives him the wrong information intentionally. This wrong information is that the bite victim was killed by William and this might be how most of fazbear frights is cannon it is Cassidy telling stories to the bite victim also explaining the 6th dead child in into the pit. Cassidy is making BV think of William killing him, causing both of them to work together while Bv has no connection to fredbear Cassidy does, and that's why fredbear is in ucn. Old man consequences is related to BV or BV's mind as we see in fnaf world, so the bear represents Nightmare, who was inflicted on Micheal by BV and that's how William also has nightmares put on him. Dreadbear coming out of the red lake in helpwanted symbolizes that BV found a way into the game and is looking for William who escaped through glitchtrap the toy Chica high-school year thing is Cassidy telling the bite victim how William killed him. BUT THATS JUST A THEORY

[@danmakuSuki]

Finally got around to this video, and I'm now even more confident it's Cassidy :p As I see it, the point of UCN is the following dilemma: Cassidy is vengeful and wants torture Afton, but by doing so, she's inadvertantly also keeping herself and the other kids from resting (implied by a WBonnie line, and the fact that we know all the MCI kids are freed *together* in Hapiest Day). If Cas accepts OMC's advice and goes in the lake, then Happiest Day happens and the souls are put to rest (The ending screen the lake leads to in FNaFWorld is called "Happiest Day" in the files, iirc). But the game doesn't confirm what actually happens. In the Dawko interview, Scott specifically chose to leave it ambiguous whether Happiest Day happens. And when you beat UCN, there's only GFreddy twitching into the darkness. HW and SB are Afton's desparate attempts to escape UCN, which ultimately fail when Cas drags him back in at the end of SB, leaving the ending unchanged. Obviously there's lots to elaborate on if u wanna discuss, but this is overall the explanation that satisfies me most. EDIT: To be clear, I'm not sure my story completely contradicts yours, this was mostly just an excuse to explain my understanding :p

[@orang9134]

true, but isn't cassidy a boy

[@danmakuSuki]

​@@orang9134She's a girl in The Fourth Closet.

[@orang9134]

@@danmakuSuki that book isn't canon

[@Pat1enceiskey]

OoOoo interesting I still think its cassidy an c.c in the golden freddy so yeah

[@meimei8718]

Thanks for the video

[@blitzes3177]

I would like to see you explain stitch line games. I don’t really know anything about it. Would be cool! Great video by the way.

[@GhostFNAF]

I plan to after Ruin Videos

[@blitzes3177]

@@GhostFNAF Not sure if you’ve seen the dittophobia leaks, but if not be sure to check them out. Very interesting stuff.

[@GhostFNAF]

@@blitzes3177 Oh I have

[@blitzes3177]

@@GhostFNAF Thoughts? Or do you think it’s video worthy?

[@GhostFNAF]

@@blitzes3177 there is gonna be a video very soon

[@jacktaylor6155]

I admire the collaborations. Yet it made the video hard to gather without watching it. Great video though a lot of great ideas and facts here

[@evefroggo4755]

Awesome! You’re an amazing youtuber

[@Deadhead-kq4hr]

I think Aftons being Funtimes theory is kind flimsy at best there's hardly any evidence only thing people think Evan is Funtime Freddy by him simply saying birthday boy I think both Sammy and Andrew only are in the books or using stitchwraith as kind of golden Freddy equivalent saying yeah two spirits can inhabit one suit

[@tartra]

I'm two-thirds of the way through this and really enjoying it! :D I have a question, though: For the Bear of Vengeance, the theories you discussed focused exclusively on Freddy and Foxy. But wasn't Mangle in those scenes too (Mangle, who doesn't have a confirmed gender, somewhat like the Vengeful Spirit being able to sound like either a girl or a boy)? And even further than that, doesn't Mangle have two heads (I can't remember if we see them both or only Mangle's head)? And doesn't Mangle have that Build A Mangle minigame in the HW Halloween update, similar to the Dreadbear Frankenstein idea? Maybe it's putting too much weight on just those cutscenes, but with all the other connections being made, I was surprised that Mangle wasn't brought up (again, from where I am in the video: two-thirds through)!

[@tomkubus]

I think mangle represents either Mike or Elizabeth One interpretation is that its Mike and foxybro, and Elizabeth being the third sibiling I this rivalry helping foxybro (this works under mikebro and mike4th aswell as long as you switch the names) A second one is that its William vs Henry with Elizabeth being mangle again, since she helps afton and has mangle in her room A third interpretation is that its William vs Henry and Mike, since Mike has shown to be simular to Elizabeth And is William's right hand man basically and is the one William screams to help him, and Mike also escaped fnaf 6, possibly making an escape route for William helping him escape My last interpretation is that its william vs Toyshnk with Elizabeth, she would want to help william there and Michael is still alive and helping him after wards in fnaf ar with "m.afton" so that means out of the 2 it has to be Elizabeth, the evidence is once again the mangle in her room and her being William's helper So the most common characters of the interpretation are William vs Henry and Elizabeth, but that's just my thoughts

[@Bearcolada]

40:30 They are canon, but not in the same timeline as the games. (Or the same universe as with The Silver Eyes trilogy.)

[@EvyDevy]

YES! Another Andrew = GF/Vengeful spirit theory (Also there are two different brain waves, not one in TMiR1280. This would include William's, not Cassidy. Because of The New Kid, regardless of it being canon or not, I think it's clear that the curly headed kid, Andrew possesses him).

[@penguin4149]

In the man in room 1280 it's Eleanor and Andrew in Williams mind

[@EvyDevy]

@@penguin4149 While she appears there in the epilogues, I don't think she was present there in the TMiR1280. She likely just has his remnant/memories. I would think she was probably active while TMiR1280 happened.

[@penguin4149]

@@EvyDevy In the 10th Fazbear frights book it tells all of the Story's that Eleanor was the cause of or was apart of TMiR1280 was one of them

[@swarovskimarshoppingalgarv7171]

I don’t think Andrew would be the TOYSNHK, in fact, Scott said that the gender can’t be used as a argument. And YOUTOOZ confirmed us that gf is the vs.

[@TrickyTurtle123]

Scott didn’t say the gender can’t be use as agrument. He did say that the gender of the voice was supposed to be annoymous. YouTooz ≠ Confrimation. It even puts one of aftons lines from SB on monty. Its most likely just puting lines that they don’t even know if the character actually said it at all.

[@Ms_Pinball]

Scott literally never said that

[@teddybear4441]

Scott never said that

[@erickamakeeaina1649]

@@TrickyTurtle123 That is still noteworthy in of itself. The fact he specifically wanted the gender to be anonymous implies that we weren't supposed to figure it out with UCN itself. And were instead only meant to figure it out when we found out who was in it.

[@TrickyTurtle123]

@@erickamakeeaina1649 …. , the he/him is true. Its the proof it was the thing that revealed it.

[@oldchannel3659]

The main reason I have a hard time with Andrew being TOYSNHK is that if he is then his literal only role in the entirety of the franchise is being TOYSNHK and being part of the Stitchwraith. It's very narratively unsatisfying, it's the same reason I disagree with GoldenDuo because the only role BV would have is being freed in Happiest Day assuming that's even him in Happiest Day and not Cassidy. It also just feels weird that the answer to UCN, a game that wasn't originally intended to be canon, a game that was made pretty much for fun with canon lines brought in as an after thought, would come in from a novel series that would start releasing a year and a half later.

[@zeleeba8774]

BiteVictim is not the who gets the gift, he gives it. Look, THD refers to Bite 83, the souls of children are an allegory for bullies (this does not mean that the souls of children are bullies), the soul of GF is an allegory for Fredbear, there remains a Puppet that is an allegory for Bite Victim (this does not mean that BV is a Puppet), because BV/Puppet stands between the souls/bullies and Fredbear/GF's soul. Why is BV the one who arranges THD? THD is related to collecting BV's soul, as the Fnaf World shows, in this game Plushbear said that he will pave the way for BV so that he finds pieces of his soul (it turns out BV has to find everything himself). MikeVictim is obviously still being traced here.

[@damkylan3]

@@zeleeba8774 Stop making shit up. lol You're only overcomplicating things.

[@TheDemonicRock990]

The mci names plus susies design came before the forth closet so their not really book characters and more of game characters I think henry and charlie got popular so there was probally a kid gender swap for puppet I think andrew is supposed to repersent cassidy plus it might be strange too have him in unless hes dead childrens incident fnaf 2 I think willaim in the books was kinda his almost starting point of know his character Fun fact the non graphic novel of the fourth closet released on june 26th 2017 Im pretty sure thats a mci date not sure I think jake also repersents crying child. I think andrew and jake are also suppose too show that more thsn 1 spirt can pose an animatronic. Which probally means cassidy and crying child pose golden freddy together

[@Dibdab9303]

I didn’t realise that TOYSNHK was an acronym so I thought it was some fnaf youtuber that ended up being a pedophile

[@doritos4956]

The first part I get but wtf is the pedophile part

[@Dibdab9303]

@@doritos4956 I thought that the acronym was the name for a fnaf youtuber that got caught being a groomer.

[@doritos4956]

@Dibdab9303 oh the chica and sprongtrap situation , ok thanks no O get it

[@lokkomotive8153]

The first victim (that William killed) was the puppet

[@killerman3715]

From henry knows Charlie not first victim of Williams kills

[@GalvaV2]

I really thought they were about to say it was Charlie when they played the nightmare puppet voice lines. Plus since nightmare puppet came back in security breach I wouldn’t be surprised

[@darktrapv.1384]

You forget William is kill c.c night 6 after say I will put you back together

[@Wizardjones69]

The photo from the spirit is from the son of scott, so: you know

[@1Tombb]

We know

[@okimightcomeback]

Plot twist Mike frog skull in fnaf 2 files

[@A_Surpluss_of_Stupidity]

The problem is Andrew hasn't crossed over yet if the name Andrew gets mentioned in game then yes this makes sense but at this point it does not!

[@Sketch-ic6jf]

Neither did the names, Steve Snodgrass, Henry, and Charlotte but they're confirmed to be in the games...

[@A_Surpluss_of_Stupidity]

@@Sketch-ic6jf yeah I still call them by their names in game I don't call them any of those names since those aren't canon also who the heck is Steve Snodgrass

[@Sketch-ic6jf]

@@A_Surpluss_of_Stupidity Steve is a character from one of the Tales from the Pizzaplex stories, “Help Wanted”, and hinted to be the indie developer mentioned in the FNAF VR game.

[@A_Surpluss_of_Stupidity]

@@Sketch-ic6jf oh ok

[@tomkubus]

Andrew has, since the books are now confirmed to be in games lines, atleast tales and tmir1280 (which involves Andrew) are

[@blarghwagurder]

maybe the twin spirit inside golden freddy is toysnhk. would also explain what the cc saw, a fredbear / golden freddy suit with a kid stuffed inside. it wouldn't be his 1st kill (charlie) but it would be his 2nd. instead of drunken rage it would be the beginning of killing for remnant out of curiosity + a selfish need to take cc and "put (him) back together."

[@gigantesupremo97555]

Kelsey

[@kingff8820]

Sometimes i think what would ive been now if fnaf wasnt here and sometimes i wish that fnaf 1 was never created

[@I_Got_Nothing]

AHHH GHOST

[@dizelraf]

This video was very good! I agree with everything

[@glitch2494]

I know this was months ago but I also know that nightmare fredbear has voicelines of a child with it and the confusing part of it is the nightmare fredbears lines which almost represents the fredbear plush talking to Crying child and wonder if someone has a reason to it

[@XxZarazTheQueenxX]

So technically Cassidy and Andrew are t the same people. But we don't know yet which one is the vengeful spirit, and which is the TOYSNHK.

[@Uber_Versace]

And to further this theory. Don't forget that in the FNAF 2 mini game When you see the puddles of blood for each of the mci kids. And one for the puppet, there is a seventh puddle underneath a table.

[@legoSoundBrick]

I just want to say one thing that I would consider an evidence for Toyshnk being golden freddy. Andrew possesses an animatronic with another person who is Jake, which is like people theorize about golden freddy, with Cassidy possessing him with Crying Child theory. The animatronic’s head is from Jake’s toy, with the toy being really similar to Crying Child’s fredbear plush, and Jake and Crying child both have a head injury. And by a theory Crying Child possessed golden freddy, like Jake possessed the animatronic that had the head of his toy. So Jake represents Crying Child and who also might share an animatronic with a person who might be a vengeful spirit. This might be a hint at the vengeful spirit being golden freddy. But this is not the only connection I see. Perhaps golden freddy is the one who is talking to old man. Who wants the golden freddy to let go of william, and at the end of ucn we see golden freddy shaking and fade out into the darkness, which could mean that golden freddy has finally let go off william, which could parallel with andrew finally separating from william with the help of jake in the books. But also the fact that beating UCN shows us fredbear and not Toyshnk can imply that they are the same person. For your disprove about how can Toyshnk torture william while he talks to the old man, I want to say that toyshnk isn’t torturing william by him self, he makes all of the animatronics attack him like an auto process, perhaps while he made them attack william in this nightmare, he is talking to the Old man.

[@tomkubus]

First of, stichwriath is possessed by 4 people, William, Andrew, Jake and Eleanor Second off, bite vicitm is confirmed not to possess a suit, so he isn't in golden Freddy Fnaf 4 and world and sister location confirm William isn't the fredbear plush speaker but a spirit instead, while Jake's plush has his father talking through a speaker, BV has an injury, Jake has na illness, totally separate He literally explained this whole paragraph in his video

[@Emanuel-qo1jw]

@@tomkubus As far as I know, FNAF World was only canon in Dream Theory

[@Emanuel-qo1jw]

stitchwraight is not an analogy to golden freddy.

[@tomkubus]

@@Emanuel-qo1jw Scott said that the retconned out former plan of the games was changed just before fnaf 4 came out, meaning no, also dream theory was never canon

[@Emanuel-qo1jw]

@@tomkubus why dream theory as never canon?

[@thatelizagamer]

yo what do you use to edit ? nice vid btw

[@GhostFNAF]

I use kdenlive cuz I can't afford adobe it's pretty good

[@Ms_Pinball]

Great video

[@carmenlynn5441]

I still think OMC is God trying to guide the spirits to rest their souls

[@corbeaudejugement]

the entire time i was sitting here like "isn't it andrew"? and, yeah, it probably is, because the books named him like they named the others. that's the thing, though. a lot of the fandom is resistant to the books being relevant, and they've got a good reason to do so: the books are gated by cost and availability. i've seen the silver eyes go anywhere from 8 to 16 USD (gentle reminder that none of the first six games go over 8 dollars). you're paying as much for a book as you are for the games, and most of the fandom are kids. they're either using allowance money to get these or got them as gifts. if you give a kid, any kid, the choice between a video game and a book, they're gonna choose the game 99% of the time. beyond that, most of the books are just.... not great. there are some gems, coming home was great for example, and then you have springtrap mpreg, hot teenage robots (yeesh), and fazgoop. taking one means you have to take it all, and i don't think most people are ready for what that entails. i know i'm not.

[@natashiwong4885]

So is no one gonna question that one of the tombstone is covered and theres another one in the far back

[@sanemishinazugawathewindpiller]

New video! Let's go I honestly love your theories more than matpats I wish you would get more recognition u really deserve it!

[@mylam658]

mattpad lmao

[@mylam658]

@@brugdabidbrug3671 huh?

[@sanemishinazugawathewindpiller]

@@mylam658 auto correction goes bruh

[@sanemishinazugawathewindpiller]

@@brugdabidbrug3671 tell who?

[@sanemishinazugawathewindpiller]

​​@@brugdabidbrug3671 I don't think I have anything to do with that. Nor does ghost I do not know who that is

[@epicpotlid]

The fact that andrew has black hair is very important i think, because toysnhk doesnt.

[@Ghost_-nz5dy]

Because the one you should not have killed has blonde hair because of Scott’s son, But the survival logbook confirms that Cassidy is in the main games as a black haired little girl like in the books but it’s clearly a boy in ultimate custom night so it can’t be Cassidy

[@1Tombb]

​@@Ghost_-nz5dyExactly

[@Whoiscassie]

That’s a very good theory, you covered every argument and stuff, though I don’t really believe this, but nice job though!

[@ayuubabdi9053]

Great video, i definitely agree with Andrew toysnhk and would believe it when bv5th gets debunked, though i do disagree on the arugments for against BV toysnhk, but notherless this was a great video and i really enjoyed when you talk about other Theories and when you put your arugments against them. My favorite part got to be the Andrew toysnhk and the Sammy Toysnhk. notherless awesome video.

[@shaelindholm2655]

I'm loving the content you are putting out!! Amazing channel!

[@lokkomotive8153]

What if we are playing as Micheal Afton and the one you should not have killed is the Crying Child

[@cheffkitty123]

You know something I just thought of while watching the end of this video? I never actually read the books. I'm just going off of what I hear in theory videos so please correct me if I'm wrong. I'm not sure if it's true because I'm also still catching up on Security Breach theories and lore ect, but I heard something about Glamrock Monty possibly being responsible for the absence of Glamrock Bonnie. I don't know the exact details, but... Could this be a connection to imply further that Andrew is the vengeful spirit? Andrew wears an alligator mask, and William is associated with Bonnie. Monty is pretty violent in nature during Security Breach, angry. I don't know about you, but an angry alligator lashing out at a rabbit seems a lot like a parallel to vengeful Andrew and the man (implied to be William) in the books. I'm not saying Andrew possessed Monty. I'm just drawing a connection.

[@LewsTherinTelescope]

The Monty thing is interesting and I'm not sure how far to read into it. The game seems to imply it when you combine a few things together: Bonnie was last seen entering Monty Golf, the minigolf arcade machine has a level where Monty is leader of the band and Freddy is in a dumpster, Monty took over as bass player after Bonnie went out of commission, and of course we see him destroy things a lot. Seems like an open and shut case. But we also know Monty keeps _skipping_ shows to hang out alone on the catwalks, which doesn't seem like the behavior of someone who actually wants the limelight-is that really his desire or is Fazbear just pushing that personality for him? After all, it's not like HE made the arcade machine himself. Further, in the Tales books, Monty seemingly has already replaced Bonnie _before_ the virus spreads (and he's described as smashing things during shows but being harmless towards others in his natural state). Also, the same incident report that shows him entering Monty Golf before his disappearance also has him sitting in the main atrium for two hours straight, which kinda sounds like things have been omitted there. But is this overthinking it, or did they just jot random times down and didn't pay attention to whether the numbers made sense or not? So, on the surface seems there's nothing up, dig a little deeper and it looks like Monty took him out, dig even deeper and it looks like he's been framed. But it's hard to tell whether that third layer is intentional and it's a double twist, or if it's just hasty writing leaving frustrating holes.

[@cheffkitty123]

@@LewsTherinTelescope I'm really hoping we get some more information in the DLC. For now it's definitely interesting to talk and theorize about.

[@piratebones9641]

The youtuber 'NotRealName NotAtAll' made a video analyzing monty's personality and he seem to literally just be an alligator

[@Ihopmic]

It’s the crying child because Micheal killed him. It’s kinda obvious tbh. Golden Freddy says it’s me because Micheal killed him and tortured him. Why do you think when you deathcoin him he kills you using Fredbear which is what Micheal killed him with? William didn’t kill crying child so this detail is useless if WilliamUCN happens. Fredbear has 0 significance to William but 100% significance to Micheal.

[@darktrapv.1384]

We want ignored fazbear frights? The man in room 1280?

[@zeleeba8774]

TOYSHNK is Stage01 victim. Whatever the name he has - Andrew or Mike Brooks.

[@killerman3715]

I agree with you

[@sebastianszyrwinski9325]

​@@killerman3715 XD

[@killerman3715]

@sebastianszyrwinski9325 truly vengeful spirit is dies before Charlie Get hints by ucn toy chica high school year

[@sebastianszyrwinski9325]

@@killerman3715 this isn't true

[@sebastianszyrwinski9325]

@@killerman3715 Besides, Stage 01 kid is Fritz and it's too obvious

[@jack_5670]

ONLY STARTED WACTHING BUT YES ANDREW = VENGEFUL SPIRIT ON FNAF KZbin HOLY BASED

[@jack_5670]

DAMN YOU EVEN GOT CASSIDYREDBEAR HERE. THIS IS THE MOST BASED FNAF KZbin THEORY

[@duckman9327]

Lmfao, yeah these theories are hard to come across on the KZbin space.

[@AbbieMahan]

The toysnhk sounds like baby I think after she died Elizabeth spirit split into one that was good and the other which was evil so when Michael took the green chip he was taking the good out of the evil that had become of Elizabeth

[@darktrapv.1384]

Vengeful spirit voice is not matter Only animatronics says about him Chica confirmed literally see vengeful spirit and he boy

[@Ihopmic]

Ever notice how the puppet doesn’t save bite victim and give him life in the minigame? He just shows up, which shows up which means there was never 5 children killed by William it has always been 4. “Not much proof CC is golden Freddy” HE WAS LITERALLY KILLED BY HIM. Shadow Freddy is just BV’s agony just like shadow Bonnie is William’s agony (the two ppl who died in suits have agony shadows because of how painful it is). 19:20 the CC was literally tortured by Micheal and he tries to kill Micheal in every game (he is a phantom Freddy in files). Golden Freddy is never directly there in any game William Afton is in so why would the bear be torturing William. 21:06 proof? Are you going to defend that? Heart has a mind of bacon. That’s how the crying child sees Micheal. He is a child when he died, he doesn’t just forget. CC doesn’t care that Micheal Afton tries to change, he only cares about torturing Micheal. Man of room 1280 isn’t supposed to be taken literally, but instead supposed to show what golden Freddy can do. It came out AFTER the game came out. You are reading into things way too much and it’s people like you who are the reason Scott retconned everything and ruined the lore

[@darktrapv.1384]

Fnaf 1 it's joke to you 5 kids get missing inside freddy Into the pit too confirmed Cassidy is girl pigtails

[@darktrapv.1384]

The man in room 1280 take place after fnaf 6 literally confirmed to you how William survived spring lock and two fires Even ucn is nightmare by vengeful spirit

[@SamuelDoherty]

I actually think that BV links more to funtime foxy while Micheal is funtime Freddy and bon-bon is William. In the base game bob-bon controls Freddy into being docile. Funtime foxy's minigame is running in a room while shining a flashlight. The exact main game mechanics of fnaf 4.

[@salt_factory7566]

Why would Scott make TOYSHNK blonde in UCN then describe TOYSHNK as having black curly hair.

[@gigantesupremo97555]

Kelsey

[@darktrapv.1384]

Scott use his son face because he can't use children without Without their family's approval

[@salt_factory7566]

@@darktrapv.1384 Then just go into photoshop and darken his hair, he deep fried the image already it’s just another edit

[@darktrapv.1384]

@@salt_factory7566 funny Scott son face edit eyes look like fetch

[@darktrapv.1384]

@@salt_factory7566 fetch possessed by Andrew

[@halfaxle]

Book characters crossover into the games Twice Henry and Charlie (and they were from the novel trilogy, not FF) Every other example is the books giving names to characters that already existed That's my biggest and only real issue with AndrewVS, everything lines up, and I completely get why people believe it, but it requires making a book character canon to the games with no solid evidence other than a pronoun

[@tomkubus]

Tales games is confirmed to be canon, and Eleanor appears in those, and Eleanor is made from Andrew, meaning Andrew is some way is 100% canon in gameline

[@halfaxle]

@tomkubus778 Politely requesting an elaboration, I'm aware we have Help Wanted and GGY, but I don't think just having those automatically makes the other books canon If there's a story that more directly confirms that or a statement from Scott or Steel Wool I haven't been made aware of it yet

[@Sketch-ic6jf]

@@halfaxle Well, the Tales from the Pizzaplex Epliogues take place at the burnt FFPS location during the construction of the Pizzaplex and its antagonist is the Mimic. The Mimic is connected to the stories, The Storyteller (from Bobbiebots Conclusion) and upcoming Tiger Rock. Also, the Pizzaplex from Bobbiebots Part 1 (from Submechophobia) matches with the Pizzaplex from Security Breach. So, this confirms that the Tales are connected to the games.

[@tomkubus]

​@@halfaxle the epilouges have appeared to be canon in SB as they have actually happened in there, and they're connected to the story teller, mimic and tiger rock

[@tomkubus]

​@@Sketch-ic6jf plus it's not like the pizzeria could be different, since we get a full description of it and it matches with the game 1:1, the epilouges are 100% canon to the games

[@januszjanusz536]

I really don't like Andrew as a character (and the way he is set up in UCN/FF) i'll have to sadly agree with him being TOYSNHK

[@LeaveMeAlone3omgIgotloggedouta]

Same, I like the idea of it being Cass a lot better.

[@lokkomotive8153]

Phone guy also wasn’t killed by golden Freddy. He was killed by a group of anamatronics.

[@darktrapv.1384]

Awesome❤ you are best fnaf youtuber ❤ Who talk about theory make sense then matpat

[@bc100dev]

1:24 my.. ears...

[@PoosayMimicCupchakes]

I like How you said that she dipped. 🗿🍷

[@ericalbuquerquemeira]

Theres some place where i can find theses arts from andrew and cassidy?

[@K.Marie119]

This is just a personal preference, but I always caution paranormal and fantasy authors when it comes to referencing real science in their works. Especially when it's within the more solidly established realms of biology. The author should have stopped at EEG paterns. Technology, like an fMRI or PET scans, can only show that there is more or less cellular activity in the brain. It wouldn't be able to differentiate that said activity in such a way that a neurologist could tell the difference between "two different entities" fighting for control. You could talk about paterns of activity not making sense given the patient appearing to be in a coma and EEG paterns not making sense.

[@redstaticofficial0320]

Matpat should totally see this!

[@TicTonic96]

Hmm I never knew Cassidy was the calm person and not vengeful something I learned now

[@monerb7185]

I think they made that up

[@TicTonic96]

​@@monerb7185 nah bro

[@monerb7185]

@@TicTonic96 just because she was being nice to the bite victim doesn’t mean she can’t also torture William

[@Sketch-ic6jf]

@@monerb7185 I don't remember Andrew being nice if he supposedly a "parallel" to Cassidy...

[@LeaveMeAlone3omgIgotloggedouta]

She can be both. She can be chill with anyone BUT Afton.

[@nitroblaze6696]

Act 1 in a nutshell:

[@Sketch-ic6jf]

Based