Who Killed Kirsty MacColl? (2004 Documentary)

[@bailey2913]

I’ll be playing fairytale of New York that little bit louder this year especially in memory of them both, soo sad they’re both no longer with us. Merry Christmas and RIP Kirsty and Shane 😔

[@dondamon4669]

They done many many other songs!! You probably like Adele and Coldplay

[@joannebeauchamp1169]

This is a POWERFUL documentary! Nothing but ADMIRATION should be sent to Kirsty’s mother, Jean, and everyone else who so graciously spent so much of their time and effort trying to seek justice for Kirsty’s death.

[@daveblack8900]

Who killed Bambi?

[@janetcw9808]

Amen Sister.

[@janetcw9808]

@@daveblack8900 Keep well, Sid 👍🏻🐈‍⬛🎉

[@nospoon4799]

If You believe anything the BBC says you are the worst kind of fool.

[@aldeshotoffice]

​ @daveblack8900 her brother. Never forgotten this case but had no idea of the depth of his jealousy or dark personality. The ultimate betrayal of family

[@brianconlan4215]

Kirsty died a hero, saving her son's life and I admire her greatly for that.

[@alastairbrewster4274]

Yes a great singer

[@Betsy387]

A true mother rip angle

[@IwasBlueb4]

A true mother...just like her mother...a tower of strength and courage ...a fighter

[@mariaevans7811]

Yes, I remember when it happen, it was just natural for her to save her sons, sad and early waste of a life, but her sons are a credit to her!! l 🐕🐕🐕🐕

[@3vimages471]

I am sorry but I am a Scuba diver .... you can't push anyone away in water, let alone two people.

[@SusanSez1]

Dear Mrs. MacColl (who passed away in 2017), how much I admire and respect you for your tireless campaign to avenge your daughter's death. My beau's son was contracted AIDS from a tainted blood transfusion when he was two and he died at 11. You were right: there's never closure. There's just acceptance that one cannot change what's happened. I pray you're with Kirsty now, dancing and singing.

[@xhogun8578]

❤️

[@ThePlutonicWay]

Love to you

[@Al-vj3rf]

She is!

[@colmmeade1824]

May she rest peacefully with her mum

[@yeshuas_follower]

❤❤❤

[@patsyhodge9071]

Geez thats rough. That poor family, those poor boys, what a tragedy. Im so glad Jean fought for her daughter the way she did. It would have taken a great toll on her. Bless. Thank you for the upload.

[@A27-j5v]

I'm sure it did take a great toll on Jean, but it also gave her a purpose and brought her in touch with people who loved Kirsty. So very sad that she didn't get the right outcome. Just very, very sad.

[@susanmillar3455]

Rest in peace Kirsty MacColl. Remembered 23 years on this December 18th 2023 on my fiancé's birthday. Sleep tight sweet angel Kirsty MacColl.

[@wirwerdenverarscht]

It is so repulsive, criminal and tragic that no one was held responsible for her death. The life of a mother and young artist was ended in a matter of seconds, and that's it? Say no more, or what? I hope her brave mother was united with her when she also past away after battling for truth and justice. This world really, really, sucks. R.I.P. Kirsty ❤️

[@colinturner4158]

For a judge to decide your daughter is only valued at £61 pounds regardless of her status is a absolute disgrace

[@sergiol.aponte13]

It was clearly explained the fine is based on the income of the guilty party, and a boathand in Cozumel makes nothing. It might seem like little to us, but to the boathand might not be.. The judge is following the law. If the law has to be changed, thats another issue.

[@sergiol.aponte13]

@Jacob Fenrir I saw it completely. I did not expect that the whole thing was about how much money we can get. That is not necessarily justice.. The whole documentary has a tone of "Those 3rd world Mexicans are all corrupt" thing going. "We British will go show them how proper things are done".. With all due respect and I understand her loss, but the lady expects a country to stop and all pay attention to her. Sorry, just been candid here. I put a LOT of blame on the markers not been deployed.

[@gilaliz1970]

@Jacob Fenrir that's the key to the whole issue.....the billionaire club.

[@leeturbo2008]

Payed off every one was cops government judge Mexicos a poor country so corruption is a common thing there

[@leeturbo2008]

@Guy Sky so it has nowt to do with the owner was the second richest in the country that makes him god in that country

[@deeferry6520]

Every christmas when I hear "Fairytale of New York", I think of her. She was a great singer and a wonderful and brave mother.

[@ltee2261]

That song will never get old. So sad what happened and sad that her co singer on that song is also now passed 😢

[@roguemayhem3651]

Great singer??? Have you tried cotton buds for u ears?

[@maddannafizz]

​@@roguemayhem3651 not my style either, but it's a bit of a nasty point, you took the time to make on this particular video which is about Kirsties death?

[@mj.l]

@@roguemayhem3651 you have cotton wool for brains - great singers aren’t always technically perfect.

[@roguemayhem3651]

@@mj.l i wont be playing fairytale of new york this Christmas or any other Christmas, if i hear it on radio I be switching it off! I met shane mcgowan in london 1987, we shared few beers in limelight club, he said he couldn’t stand the bitch kirsty macoll. Now f off deaf ears.

[@paulrydzinski9995]

Remember as little kids me and my brother met Kristy at the Heineken music festival in Portsmouth. My family had access to the backstage area and we kept running up to her every few minutes asking for her autograph. After the 4th time she ask "what you doing with these?" We said we are selling them to your fans through the fence for a pound. She laughed and said good on ya but this is the last. Thank you for being so kind Kirsty! RIP sweet lady!

[@lizhall4473]

That's a beautiful memory, lucky you!

[@glamdolly30]

Wow, in just a few sentences you gave a better written, more insightful, memorable and heart-warming account of a face-to-face encounter with Kirsty MacColl than someone who wrote here claiming to be a professional journalist who had actually interviewed her! Great story, what lovely memories and what a sweet lady. Thanks for sharing.

[@poppyfield1619]

That is an adorable story!

[@bobdavis4848]

That sounds like her type of reactions! Thanks for sharing the nice story! Rest In Peace Kirsty MacColl.

[@lavieenrose5954]

Lovely. I bet Kirsty admired your business acumen :)

[@justiceforall8574]

A big thank-you to kirsty's mother for all her efforts in this very painful episode,shame on the Mexican authorities trying to cover this up.

[@Smudgeroon74]

Mexico is a very corrupt country. In the 1980's Presidents de La Madrid and Salinas are mentioned in Cathy O'Briens book "Trance Formation of America". Cathy was a victim of the CIA's MK-Ultra Project Monarch program.

[@maggieboo8142]

GOD BLESS her dear mother, may they both rest in peace 😢❤🇬🇧

[@anderslarson6813]

Kirsty's mum did she could and nothing is more powerful than a mother's love for her daughter . Kirsty's mum deserved justice before she passed

[@beverlyhills8988]

@@Smudgeroon74 oh that's interesting to know. I was led to believe that Kirsty's death had more to it. I was told something about a rockefeller connection, but having watched this, I'm not sure where they got that from... I've never read Cathy O'Brien's book, but I did watch a couple of her talks... there arebmo words that can describe how horrific the things she and her poor daughter went through were. It's a very important book, but I'm not sure if I'm strong enough to read it, moreso now that I'm a mother myself.

[@beverlyhills8988]

@@Smudgeroon74 and you're right about the corruption in Mexico, it seems to be the same all over South America as well. It was also something I noticed in Mediterranean countries and in Eastern Europe. In reality it's no more corrupt than England, it's just so much more blatant. A Bulgarian man I was talking to the last time I was there put it well "the government is just as corrupt in your country right at the top and in the middle, but here it goes right to the bottom" Not so long ago there if you wanted to drink drive, you just made sure you had 10lv in your pocket in case you were stopped. It was just like a tax you paid to the police. In some countries you still have that petty, low level corruption going on as well and it just seeps into every part of society. When that's what you're up against, how do you fight it? Money talks, but it talks a lot louder in poor countries!

[@missmary8878]

Fairytale of New York is the best Christmas song and nobody can sing it better than Kirsty MacColl and the Pogues. I feel her spirit lives on through that song and her other music. God Bless her wonderful talent R.I.P.

[@dampergoldenrod4156]

She was killed only about 12 or 13 years after her 1987 song

[@poppyfield1619]

@@dampergoldenrod4156 😔

[@annfury3558]

I agree with you 100% nobody will ever sing it like they did did any time I hear that song I think of Kirsty and The Pogues rest in peace Kirsty❤❤🙏🏼🥰🥰

[@1tnt833]

100

[@michelemartin3642]

Ditto. It always been one of my very favourite Christmas songs. It's a raw, brutally honest ballad, without all the all the commercial Xmas dressing. A great mother who sacrificed her life for child's. RIP Kirsty

[@grose2272]

Just hearing her son recounting that tragedy is heartbreaking..

[@glamdolly30]

I know, those poor kids, a tragedy that will stay vivid in their memories forever.

[@kathleensmith7464]

@@glamdolly30 in

[@LouiseMannigel]

Love to him and his brother. What a terrible thing to go through. May grace and peace be there for them all their lives

[@grose2272]

@@LouiseMannigel he seems like a very well rounded and balanced boy and I hope he finds healing.

[@nedmullins2440]

Well done to the diving instructor, so genuine and sincere. Sit up world and take notice. Hope he's well and God bless him.

[@TheGra325]

I agree, that kind of integrity is sadly scarce in this world now. Most want to turn a blind eye to wrongdoings and misgivings in our ever descending society

[@janedoe6350]

He wasn't an Instructor. He was a Divemaster. This means, all the divers in the water were qualified Open Water divers. Although mistakes were made by ALL parties, and as a Divemaster myself i will say this. The correct protocol for all qualified divers on returning to the surface in open water after a dive are as follows: Before making an assent, the diver should deploy an SMB (Surface Marker Buoy) displaying either the 'Alpha Flag' or the 'DAN Flag' to warn above boating traffic that there is a diver (or divers) below... regardless if the area is a restricted to boating traffic. This SMB is an inflatable flotation device that the diver inflates with air and sends to the surface on a line. After the SMB is deployed the diver ascends to a depth of 5 meters to perform a 15 min safety stop. During the safety stop the diver listens for boat traffic. Water conducts sound 4 times faster than in air so, you will hear a boat at depth sooner than you would at the surface. After the safety stop the diver or divers ascend staying as close to the SMB as possible. So in my view, these were the things that went wrong. A) The Dive Boat were not displaying the correct flags showing that there where divers in the water. This is the responsibility of the Captain. So he or she has some of the responsibility of Kirsty's death. B) The boat that struck Kirsty also has some responsibility. And that responsibility stops with it's Captain regardless who was at the helm or who was posted as lookout. Captain carries the can (ALWAYS) even if he or she where below decks. How this can be disputed is beyond me because it is Global Maritime Law. C) All divers holding Open Water qualifications where responsible for not marking their ascending position in the water column known to boating traffic. There was no instructor present, right? Only a Divemaster therefore, under PADI regulations all divers would have been qualified Open Water Divers and responsible for themselves. As a consequence, EVERYONE failed in their responsibility. The dive boat Captain, The Captain of the boat that stuck Kirsty, the Divemaster and all the divers in the water... resulting in a death. As a Divemaster myself for best part of 20 years i have witnessed many deaths. Too many! SCUBA diving is the most dangerous of all extreme sports. Far more dangerous than parachuting or mountain climbing. Water kills! Dive at your own risk. If you participate in this sport... follow every regulation and rule to the letter. That said, in all of the fatalities i have ever witnessed... in all cases, someone flouted the rules. And when this happens... people die. My heart goes out to all involved. It's sad... but sadly, it happens every day in this sport.

[@BeExcellent1]

@@janedoe6350 Well said and explained, I hope others read and understand this.

[@undergroundgroweruk446]

@@TheGra325 read "Jane doe's" comment

[@MyTinyBalcony]

He was a dive master, not an Instructor in this case. This is an important distinction. Dive Masters are often supervising inexperienced divers per their professional license allowable duties. They are not particularly well paid, and in some places, this job is the best paying job on the beach. The poor man lost a career, because of the actions of 2 people that day. The boat owner for going at a speed above 5knots within 50m of a dive boat operator, and then letting an untrained person helm the boat at great speeds. At 15-20knots, there is very little the DM could have done anyway. Even if he heard it coming underwater, and he stopped the ascent of the divers, I don't think he could have done it in time, because stopping an ascent takes planning and preparation. I am not convinced the dive boat didn't have appropriate flags flying. Any half decent operator will have one. I believe that is an excuse for the boat owner and driver used to cover poor water craft safety practices. I am a PADI Master Scuba Diver Trainer #477213 - the views above are based on my own professional assessment of the situation as presented through experience, training, and education. Thankfully, I have not lost any of my students or customers to such a horrible set of circumstances, and even though it is 20 years after the event, the courage that Dive Master is exhibiting by telling his story, I would employ him in a heartbeat, because he has integrity.

[@michaeledwards5981]

Every Christmas when I hear fairy tale in new york and hear Kirsty sing I shed a tear for a talent taken far too soon. R.I.P Kirsty gone. But not forgotten x

[@locolupe2]

And now shane mcgowan is gone too :( RIP to both of them.

[@garyholmes2568]

If only there were more people in the world like the diving instructor. A man of great integrity and sincerity. ❤

[@frozenice61]

yes and he must have feared for his life,and it cost him his living ,a good man and he helped kirsty mother no end

[@northernthrifter8817]

Destroyed the diving instructor's life too by the sound of things. This goes to show that I don't think it's necessarily Mexico's justice system that's totally at fault. The whole system on a global scale will bend to the will of a rich psychopath which I would bet senor Gonzalez is. Most of these high level CEOs are psychopath's it's how they get were they are, lawyer's are the gate keepers of injustice. Money talks, pay enough money to grease the justice system to facilitate an outcome that suits the man paying. The is no justice against rich powerful people it just is. The words reveal everything.

[@Melissasuzie]

Both sailors, the guy in the nearby boat. No doubt lived hard lives, but demonstrated far more respect for Kirsty and her family. Justice will be served when he goes to meet with his maker 🙏🏼

[@FLOSSYTREADWELL]

Disgraceful cover up. Shame on them seeing an elderly lady hobbling around in an effort to achieve justice & finding a despicable criminal cover up at the highest level. Not only was a crime committed resulting in death, they allow lies to be heard & unpunished because they can't be arsed to serve subpoenas. They stinks the lot of them.

[@tasosdiaforetico7377]

Totally agree my gosh

[@julianciahaconsulting8663]

has there been any news on this case since the documentary was made do you know?

[@alfiecat9288]

My thoughts as well. It’s very difficult with countries with different cultures and law - look at Turkey, Dubai, Greece, Portugal and Egypt. These countries are very happy to accept British holiday makers money, but will not help out if things are let’s just say a “little contentious” especially if high profile local individuals are implicated in committing crimes against said holiday makers or if their lucrative holiday industry may be damaged - it absolutely disgusts me.

[@Marathon2165]

Will never step a foot into MX!

[@williamhastie5056]

I cried when Kirsty died and I cried again watching this. She wasn’t one in a million or even billion. Kirsty was a totally unique individual with a beautiful voice and a fantastic song writer. The strength her mother had to continue the fight for justice was incredible. It’s a shame she didn’t see justice done before she too passed away. My thoughts are with Kirsty’s sons, family and friends. The only positive thing I can think of is that at least we have her body of work and beautiful voice to listen to forever. R.I.P. Kirsty.

[@mariaking1679]

me too i cried

[@anderslarson6813]

obviously not even money can bring their mum back.... but that businessman should have been liable civilly in a court of law and those boys should have been setup for life financially by that cowardly businessman...i am talking millions of pounds to each boy..

[@poppyfield1619]

William Hastie you said that all so beautifully. Thank you.

[@brianhillis9548]

So sad to watch,Kirsty Mum was determined to get to the bottom of her daughters death may she R.I.P. with her daughter

[@kathyduffyharte1636]

Yeah he shld have been made to pay compensation... and also to the diver who spent many years of his life helping her mum to get justice ..it wld have been a horrific sight ...a captain will go down with his ship.. if he was saying he eas responsible for the boat as owner , OK we know it was accidental but it was careless and wreckless and cld have been avoided .... and he shld have took responsability for the sake of the money..wich he can't take with him

[@yukiefromoz2573]

Wow, that is awful how she died. And to think nobody was held accountable is disgusting. Plus that billionaire guy just hiding away all the time, cowardly bastard.

[@joebutlersnr7017]

Its suspected the owner paid one of the crew a large amount of money to take the blame.

[@teebee7374]

@@joebutlersnr7017 Appalling!

[@sexobscura]

so was he hiding in his underground bunker ...

[@56postoffice]

@@joebutlersnr7017 That doesn't surprise me. F--king disgusting.

[@schielesmrs7648]

Karma knows everyone's address.

[@sst6358]

My cousin aged 19 was killed by a drunk driver , here in Ireland , the man who killed my cousin was a doctor , and lied about driving said his wife was driving , but there where loads of witnesses who seen him kill my cousin and guess what that murderer went on to be a doctor 💔 Rich privileged people the most disgusting people on our planet MURDERERS

[@sharonletchford9375]

Agreed . Sorry for your loss & injustice,may your cousin be at peace.🙏🤍🪷🕊️

[@xsuzannex]

Sorry for your heartbreaking loss.

[@amandamorris754]

How absolutely disgusting, I remember the accident happening. But never realised the whole in justification that had gone on. R.I.P Kirsty and Jean. 🙏🙏💔💔

[@energybrown]

Such a tragedy that Kirsty was taken so young. It's hardly surprising that a super-wealthy business man wasn't held to account for her death but her mum's passion was inspiring!

[@aprildannette3816]

She is a hero and its sick that her family did not get proper justice for her gross negligent death and that is putting it lightly

[@1916-e6n]

"They don't know" one of the best songs ever written. Probably cos I'm old and it invokes such brilliant memories.RIP Kirsty. Bless you and your family.

[@tracya4087]

hear hear

[@lindaraccoon]

Beautiful song

[@sinceunati]

Great tune

[@TrickyTone873]

A personal favourite, a wonderfully simple song, but the best songs often are. Written at age 18, what an incredible talent.

[@BlytheWorld1972]

her son talking what a nice lad ... hope he is doing great ur mum would be proud .

[@jap7384]

that's what I thought, hope is okay as well

[@kenlieck7756]

@@jap7384 He seems remarkably strong, all things considered. My friend Geoff's dad was murdered in Puerto Rico when he was the same age as Kirsty's boys and the killer walked away scott free in that case as well (fanbuzz.com/pro-wrestling/bruiser-brody-death/) and you can sense that a huge part of him will never fully recover...

[@jap7384]

@@kenlieck7756 I think most of us have gone through less traumatic stuff and havent reacted half as well. seen videos about the bruiser brody controversy on here, some of his wrestling buddies have never recovered either

[@AG-cg7lk]

Corruption at multiple levels of authority. Disgusting.

[@MissOrchid12]

Oh my gosh this is truly heart breaking, I feel so much for Kirsty's wonderful mother & the depth of her love for her beautiful daughter.

[@biffgrimes.8345]

She saved her sons lives what an incredible mother.

[@Irunwithscissors63]

It’s what mothers are supposed to do.

[@nickinite8211]

@@Irunwithscissors63 ya well some mother's murder their kids. Ur comment is pathetic

[@sueallen952]

@@nickinite8211 why is it pathetic!!!??? Most mothers would kill for their kids, you sound like your very bitter about something

[@MichaelMyers66793]

@@nickinite8211 yeah some mothers kill their children

[@irenemorley75]

@@MichaelMyers66793 There are many mothers out there that have killed there children

[@P-adam]

Such a terrible loss. I hate that we didn't get justice for her.

[@lee9314]

So sad to see her mother fight for justice in what was obviously a cover up , the poor dive master will never forget that horrific accident, rip Kirsty maccoll .x

[@stevesandford1437]

As a music journalist, I just once interviewed Kirsty MacColl... There was an absolute light, indeed a delight, around and about her. (That isn't always the case and it isn't what a journalist expects...) However, I was very taken with her, I found her hugely attractive and very feminine in the best sense of those terms and indeed it fell to her to rather put me at my ease as we talked. (I wanted and would have run away with her had she asked... She was truly beautiful in every way.) I got the impression that this wasn't unusual for her and she bore with my genuine crush with a kind of amused kindness. I have interviewed everyone from Bowie to Beyonce and it's not the job of an interviewer to 'crush' on the interviewee. (That's actually rather unprofessional.) As ordinary a woman as she was, she had a kind of special sparkle about her, she was warm, funny, very knowledgeable, kind, engaging, beautiful and yes, incredibly attractive. (I absolutely fell a little bit in love with her...) Her amused reaction to me only later caused me to think that she probably got that a lot... Rest her special soul. xx SF

[@elainefree4873]

Thank you for this.

[@Johnbryan0]

Cheers great comment

[@A27-j5v]

What a wonderful tribute. She was truly loved. A wonderful artiste who wrote some amazing lyrics. She also did great credit to other writers work especially Day Davies and Billy Bragg. In These Shoes is an amazing song. What a very sad loss.

[@zolfodor4835]

Brilliant mate 🤘👍 loved reading your story,she was stunning R.I.P. ❤

[@glamdolly30]

Of course she got that a lot, why would you doubt it? She was a hugely attractive and charismatic woman, who wore her gifts and fame lightly.

[@Moeporcelli57]

Thank you, @Mandy Doubt, for uploading this. I loved Kirsty and her music. I was devastated when I heard she had been killed in such a horrific way. I can not imagine what her mother, Jean, and sons went through.

[@teddyamok]

Aww kirstys poor mum. Feel so bad for her. You can tell it broke her. Poor wee woman 💔

[@familydoggs]

I think her mum did really well in carrying on the fight for justice and didn't seem broken at all as she fought for her daughter.

[@russell22w]

A terrible loss. You can't get help but shed a tear seeing amd hearing her mum in this doc.

[@Tam10101999]

Horrific what happened to her..RIP Kirsty

[@PeterShieldsukcatstripey]

Love to Kirsty's mum, sons, partner, ex husband and friends and family. A battle in Kirsty's name. So loved and such a terrible loss.

[@jenniferjacobs228]

What a wonderful, caring, loving person Jean was. Bless her and I truly do hope that she and Kirsty are together again.Much love and sympathy to their family and friends. R.I.P. Kirsty and Jean xxx

[@darrenyoung3102]

Her final act was of absolute love and protection for her boys. Tragic that she died, but what a beautiful act of how a mother should protect her babies. What a heroine.

[@neilhobson3624]

The diving instructor stood by her all the way. What a decent guy he is. 👍

[@The000clash000]

Apart from not displaying Divers Down Flag. Rule number 1 😑

[@batintheattic7293]

@@The000clash000 I can't help but think the people, on the deck or at the helm of the Percalito, should have avoided tearing into an area where there were other boats stationary - flags or no flags. It's meat headed arrogance that killed Kirsty. It's the same kind of arrogance that puts drivers behind the wheel in SUVs with bull bars etc. Their only thought is, "Well - I'LL be unharmed."

[@nickfleming3495]

Not only decent but bloody brave in that country, is he still with us??

[@andrewproctor6031]

Agree, what a lovely guy, a pure hearted man

[@Wally-H]

@@The000clash000 True that was an error, even so the area they were diving in was heavily restricted for boats. The boat owner well knew that and the lack of flags wasn't an excuse for his actions. It's a bit like saying, I know I'm driving through a 30mph zone but I can't see any pedestrians so I'll put my foot down and do 50mph. If you do that and hit someone you are liable, even if the pedestrian made a mistake of stepping out without looking properly. I feel sorry for this guy because he did make a mistake of not putting out the flags and that has clearly haunted him ever since.

[@skithewhitestuff]

So very sad. I’m watching this in November 2020. I was unaware of how Kirsty died and was shocked to know that her family did not see justice for her death, that being the responsibility of a wealthy businessman in a third world country. Money is power, and this story goes to confirm that theory.

[@jordymaas565]

Crazy shit happens all over the world, sadly good people often get done over. So much bad stuff happens on the water, been known to light a flare or two on Darwin harbour as a pissed up captain. oh dear.

[@suzyq4982]

He’ll get his in hell I hope 🤞 #RIP Kirsty ❣️

[@rampageclover9788]

The fight shouldn't have to end with Jean's passing. Kirsty's sons and brother are still here and Gonzalez's son who was on the boat is now running the organization....there's unfinished business

[@griswald7156]

You can’t get British style justice for a British person outside Britain..

[@Dandroid5000]

@@griswald7156 You can’t get British style justice for a British person inside Britain either..

[@unclebennyscreepycampfires6828]

May God richly bless that divemaster- he is a good, good man. When he showed them the spot to lay the wreath, & was standing right beside her mom as she broke down, & put his arm around her... wow... he didn't have to do that. He didn't have to help her bear her burdens... but he did. Deeply moved me to tears. If only everyone had a heart like that.

[@Wally-H]

Even though they barely knew each other, the pain of the accident forged an instant bond between them. The sight of what happened will have lived / will live with that poor man for the rest of his days

[@comealongcomealong4480]

@@Wally-H I am hopeful that the time spent with Kirsty's mother may have allowed this dive master to release her spirit. A commenter wrote 1 yr ago that he had moved to the USA, possibly out of necessity.

[@LouiseKernow2024]

They never caught the bastard, driving a speedboat in a swim only area. Got away with murder.

[@anderslarson6813]

I agree with you ... and that cowardly businessman should have to answer for the crimes he committed .. what a coward

[@anderslarson6813]

@anna ryder no doubt ... but as i said in another section those boys should have been taken care of financially by that businessman meaning the billionaire businessman should have been held accountable for Kirsty's death and the boys should have gotten at least a couple of million pounds each. at least some justice and accountability would be done. If some money would have gone to the boys at least some form of justice would have been done

[@merckxy54]

@anna ryder Yep money will keep the prosecutors away from him

[@anderslarson6813]

@Chevloo Lee well all i have to say if there is a heaven or hell , that billionaire is going to run into some pretty bad people... all i know is that heaven got two angels now in Kirsty and her mum.. Very Sad

[@anderslarson6813]

@Chevloo Lee very strong she was

[@lovesees4320]

The corruption disgusts me. How dare they treat a Life with such callousness! But Kirsty sit above it All & as for Her Wonderful Mother, she too is @ Peace 💞 So sorry for All the family & a special prayer for Kirstys two Beautiful Boys🌎❤️ 🕊️🕊️🕊️

[@Wildmutationblu]

I originally watched this video a while ago. I'm glad you have re-uploaded it and hope it doesn't get taken down.

[@adelaney537]

It genuinely made me want to cry. Those poor children who witnessed this terrible tragedy. Then Jean. Kirsty's mum still in the midst of grief and doing such good for her daughter. It was and is a heartbreaking ending to a lady who was a real raw talent. I am playing the best of Kirsty MacColl in my car at the moment it is I just love her music. A lasting legacy to her talent and Kirsty's sons are a credit to her. It is just a tragic loss. RIP Kirsty MacColl.

[@jamesoftheisaacfamily]

A sad loss of a talented mother and daughter .

[@briandancer7959]

Really sad watching the documentary about kirsty macalls tragic death whilst on holiday with her sons and to hear that she saved her boy's lives and give her own, such an amazing talented song writer and singer, which the world has lost, but your music will always live on forever, beautiful person R.I.P XXX PS AND WE THINK OF YOU MORE AROUND CHRISTMAS TIME XXX

[@ozzie-sk9dh]

I can’t have the luxury of tears. I have to stay focused. That’s a great woman. Poor Mum.

[@leswainwright5343]

It reminds me of the young English man who was killed riding his motor bike. The woman who killed him was driving on the wrong side of the road. The woman was the wife of an American diplomat & she left the UK claiming diplomatic immunity. She is still in America & she has got away with killing that poor lad. Kirstys death is similar in that the killer got away scot free. I didn't know the details of Kirstys death until I watched the video, but it was a terrible tragedy.

[@melanieshreeve9468]

What an extraordinary mother you were in your fight for justice for Kirsty , her strong & beautiful sons & all her wider family, friends & musicians. Respect to the brave men / diving instructors who spoke out in this program. Kirsty MacColl's music is the sound of my adolescent years & i'm in tears today for a family & a world that is missing such a beautiful woman. May this loss weigh heavily in the souls of those responsible.... who didn't have the conscience to take responsibility for their actions.

[@bambit08]

Unbelievably 23 years ago today. 🙏 Bless Kirsty and gratitude for all the amazing songs she wrote and sang - still bringing joy. 💙

[@rhianhegarty3383]

Never watched this. Thank you for uploading. Its still such a tragic loss . I always forget she's gone as I still listen to her music as if it were all made yesterday and she'll live on thanks to that.

[@stephenbrown8018]

Kirsty’s Mum loved her so much. What a needless waste of such a beautiful and talented soul.

[@desktopkitty]

Kirsty is a hero. My mother abandoned me at age 6, so I grew up not knowing or remembering my mom. Since I learned about her death, I celebrate her on Mothers' Day for having made the ultimate sacrifice for her children. Kirsty died for her sons, there's no greater love a mother could give.

[@thresagraham8181]

I’m sorry for what happened to you, that is a lovely gesture.☘️🌸🌺✌️

[@Jesus_isLord_andGod]

Ther is much GRATER LOVE that you can know, it's God Jesus Christ love, he died for your SINS on the cross. Please find Jesus. Invite him into your heart and repent of your SIN and ask Jesus to give you your salvation. He is the only one that can give you wholesome love that no one can give you. I met Jesus Christ in open vision he healed my broken heart and set me free from SIN. Ask him for the TRUTH. He know all about rejection and brokenness. He is the only one that can heal you and become your everything. He is God and he loves you. Peace.

[@beaulieuc8910]

@@Jesus_isLord_andGod life is better without religion

[@ThePlutonicWay]

Mine did the same at age 3, I always look up to and admire women who care about their children so fiercely. I understand your sentiment, and may her spirit fly free and peacefully x

[@Simon-gp2zw]

@@Jesus_isLord_andGod amen 🙏

[@janethollman7894]

I thought she drowned while trying to save others drowning. I had no idea it was like this. Thank you for sharing this and putting me right. Oh my goodness that was heart wrenching. Her mother is completely heartbroken I do hope she find peace. I hope the boys flourish and live long lives and happy ones. Kirsty’s voice will live forever and surround the family with love. Her partner and ex husband as well. So many questions so few answers another family left trying to do the Home Office’s work.

[@a.o.marcos9555]

What a wonderful lady (Jean, Kirsty's mother) , and what a wonderful team, including the integral Mexican parties, the lawyer there, the witnesses who refused to be silenced. Dear Jean wherever you may be god bless you and all those fighting for truth and justice then and now. Im a Mexican born individual, many decades In Britain and in complete allegiance with British values, as I am with good Mexican values (Family, etc) . I fully understand your struggles. I am happy you managed to come across incorruptible helpers in Mexico. I apologize on behalf of good mexicans for unnecessary failings which hindered the progress of your investigation, adding insult to injury in the process . I hope you all found some sort of closure, in as much as any closure can be had. God bless the good people of the world, God bless the good British souls there by your side ....and the good Mexican souls who didn't fail us. Bless Kirsty too.

[@patsyhodge9071]

You are decent human being and your words are beautiful. Bless.

[@a.o.marcos9555]

@@patsyhodge9071 thanks for your kind words, Patsy, i was deeply touched and moved by the story and those in and around the story , in particular by Jean herself, who reminded me of the love i have for my own mother. Stay well, dear. We hope they all found eventual resolution.

[@DamoMcDermott]

#RIP Jean

[@jeremysmith54565]

@@a.o.marcos9555 Take care :)

[@hannecatton2179]

You are a wonderful human being . God bless you.

[@rubypepper2700]

Thank you for uploading the documentary. I enjoyed it, even though it was sad.

[@patbaron8197]

So sad for all concerned. I think the Mexican authorities treated Jean terribly. I loved Kirsty’s songs she was very talented. I saw her perform with the Pogues in Leeds and I will always remember how much We, my son and daughter enjoyed it.

[@gothicwestern]

When I went into labour in 1987, my partner had tickets for a Pogues concert and I said, go, go, don't miss the Pogues. He caught up with me around 2am in the local hospital and our son was born at 7am. Fairy Tale of New York is one of my favourite songs and it is such a remarkable song because of Kirsty's vocal. God bless her.

[@MrGordonhaining]

So tragic 😭 her father was a brilliant Scottish folk singer and wrote the haunting melody “the first time I saw your face “ for her mum

[@stevebudd6078]

It was written for Peggy Seeger

[@stevebudd6078]

@Mike Luke the Pogues sang it they didn’t steal it

[@DrSwitchpiglet]

@Mike Luke They didnt steal it, they covered it with permission. Its written about Salford but it's 'stolen' by most teary eyed drunks thinking it's written about Dublin.

[@A27-j5v]

That's interesting. Which pub was it?

[@stevebudd6078]

@Mike Luke Mike - thanks for the info but as we all know the Pogues weren’t fooling anyone - Steve

[@BlytheWorld1972]

Everyone connected to her are so lovely to her mother kids ex man & boyfriends but of course i would not have expected any less coz she was a lovely person .

[@donfisher7432]

Justice walks when money talks sad but true,RIP Kirsty,

[@G4RY1159]

Still remember hearing the sad news of Kirsty's death like it was yesterday, she was another person that left behind some amazing memories we will never forget.

[@madsaqua2350]

How devastatingly sad. This poor sad but dignified woman received no relief or real help from Mexico. ❤️🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼😭

[@janefriel6895]

What an interesting documentary.Kirsty Mc Coll was much more than a singer of an iconic Christmas song.Jean was a strong,devoted parent.Wonderful courageous lady.Kirstys son's are a credit to her and their father.Very sad story altogether.☘️

[@judithjaafar517]

Jamie was my son’s school friend. I used frequently to say hello to Kirsty at the school gates. Very sad and shocking loss.

[@stonedtommy403]

We certainly lost one of our best, in Kirsty.RIP

[@glamdolly30]

Jean Newlove was a fine, impressive woman, who produced another in her daughter Kirsty MacColl. I only wish Kirsty had lived to her mum's great age of 94, as she no doubt would have done. God bless them both, reunited in some other time and place.

[@clarecarden8051]

Beautifully said!😊

[@fizzao1342]

I used to belong to Jean’s website “Justice for Kirsty”. She was a lovely lady as well as a very accomplished one.

[@glamdolly30]

@@fizzao1342 I so wish Jean's fight for justice had been triumphant. But I'm sure all the support she got from good people like yourself was a comfort to her, as she came to terms with the tragedy. Knowing how widely loved and respected her daughter was, must have been a source of great pride through those dark days.

[@swin1955]

Jean you were just fabulous. I hope you and Kirsty are together again, and I hope your Grandsons are OK despite losing their Mum when they were so very young. What an absolute tragedy. Love to you all

[@bethankrzowski4553]

Tears are a sad and a pure lament to the life of the one you loved, your pain honours the existence of that life also. That's what I think when I miss my mother who died aged 42 and loved Kirsty Mccoll. Thankyou for the days.

[@AlexM-sg8fn]

That’s sad, I’m sorry to hear of your loss. Hope you have a good Christmas 🙏 🎄

[@lindabright515]

I am in awe of Kirsty's Mum's strength. My heart and soul goes out to her and family.

[@Caff68]

I had to watch this in chunks...absolutely heartbreaking.

[@HarleyHerbert]

Imagine how many more cases like this all covered up that we may never know about. We know about this incident because she was famous enough for people to know about it, and because her mother continuously sought to find the truth no matter how far she had to go to get it. Had either of these things not been the case we'd never know the truth. There's probably so many other incidents like this that we'd never hear about. I hope that this incident causes more awareness of other ones too and makes more people search for the truth when these sorts of things happen.

[@gavinsimon4187]

She had a lovely voice,she made the "fairy tale of new york"song,RIP kirsty....

[@robjones7725]

It upset me so much at the time it happened. I loved her unique voice. She saved her sons. RIP KM.

[@angelairvine3001]

Rest in peace Jean your with your daughter now 🙏❤🙏 god bless family friends 🙏❤️❤️🙏

[@BruceLee-zd9bw]

❤❤❤❤🙏

[@dominewimbury2039]

Aww

[@Jay-sg2ko]

My mother loved Kirsty and told me this story when I was a kid. Then years later, my mum found herself in the same situation as Kirsty's mother, when my little sister was killed by a train in 2015. This was heartbreaking to watch.

[@LA-gh3mi]

Creative souls on this planet suffer immensely.

[@1916jamesconnolly]

Kirsty had such a unique and earthy voice that touched your heart. Her beloved Mother who fought so hard for her is with her now in paradise. The selfish boat owner who has never once expressed guilt or even sorrow for her young promising life will one day have to face the ultimate Judge.

[@AlexM-sg8fn]

He’s dead so I reckon it’s hot where he is now 🔥

[@sydhawdon9095]

I met her backstage at a gig in Middlesbrough, she was a gem, really nice girl. She let me have a hand written set list that was taped to a speaker, and she signed it for me.

[@marilynfranklin8924]

I have listened to Kirsty’s music and never knew this happened. This needs to be more prominent in the media. I hope this isn’t another tragic incident that fades into history. She was an amazing talent, her mum is amazing. To her children, you’re mum would want you to live rich lives, remember her, but enjoy your lives.

[@jjhbbjjj1945]

Trying to ban her song here in U.K. 😡

[@marilynfranklin8924]

@@jjhbbjjj1945 WTF - WHY??? this is insanity!

[@Angofar]

It already has faded for the Mexican authorities. Kirsty died 2000. That film was 2004. Her Mum died 2017. The CEO never faced justice. Never will. Isn’t having mullions great!

[@Angofar]

Millions*

[@TheBlueNomad]

The police are protecting Nova for sure, he owns them...

[@AlexM-sg8fn]

Nova is dead now though it’s terrible justice was never executed

[@Wally-H]

He died in 2009. Never faced justice

[@TheBlueNomad]

@@Wally-H He's a murderer..

[@Wally-H]

@@TheBlueNomad I would say it was manslaughter since he didn't drive into the area intending to kill anyone. In the UK he would have certainly got a nasty prison sentence for that

[@TheBlueNomad]

@@Wally-H Well, yes, strictly speaking it's manslaughter of course, but it all amounts to the same thing...he took a life

[@jonquiloconnor987]

Second time of watching is far harder. Always ends in tears for the bravery of Kirsty's family and friends and the waste of such an amazing and talented woman. God bless you all in finding closure. Xx

[@mjw12345]

Thank you for upload - heartbreaking, moving doc, respect for brave Mexicans who offered testimony what did happen.

[@julietrask7497]

She reminds me of Sharon Tate’s Mother Doris. Even though her killers were caught, Doris was at every member of the Manson Family parole hearings. A tough woman who while her and her other daughter were still alive, they kept these people in prison. 🙏🏻 Rest In Peace Tate Family.

[@SadieKay1]

I thought the exact same thing!

[@jeanniecampbell1374]

Beautiful Mother fighting on for justice for her daughter Kirsty and her Beautiful boys ...so sorry ... those two fishermen touched my heart too .

[@embraman]

The campaign was eventually wound down without any satisfactory resolution other than raising awareness of safety at the resort. In the end and despite high level government support, the campaign was unable to get far enough with the Mexican authorities to directly affect the case, but Jean MacColl never gave it up and sadly passed away without a happy ending.

[@truthbaxter9689]

That is sad.

[@acovenofmany333]

Never any justice when the alleged are extremely wealthy.

[@debjohns_ton3170]

This so sad, where the hell was the British consulate!!

[@paymydues]

Tragic i hope that asshole 'boat owner' sleeps real well as you confront your entire life at the moment of passing.........

[@TomahawkMark]

"In the end and despite high level government support" What high level gov support? Sure its in this that the consulate never done a thing.

[@ehlerhog]

My God I didn't know any of this had happened . I got here via the Pouges and decided to find out more about Kirsty and her carrer. I love her voice and indeed was a bright light taken way before her time 🙏 ❤️💕

[@annecorrenty733]

Rest in peace Kirsty, I listen to your beautiful music each day. God bless your family, from Ireland

[@MsPixi66]

You always know its Christmas when you hear Fairytale of New York R.I.P sweet lady and best wishes to all her family and love ones.

[@annieb8984]

Very talented, I remember when it happened, how terrible for her poor sons to see that. My heart aches at the lack of justice for her death. Clearly money talks and is protecting those who are really responsible. I hope her mom and her family get some justice, RIP Kirsty M, gone too soon 🌻🙏🏽❤️

[@josephinepeery6938]

I was totally unaware of her demise, so very sad and cruel, those poor children must have suffered nightmares for years to come 😢 She was such a very talented lady.

[@garethdavies3175]

Remember listening to fairy tale in New York as a kid and like many others you new it was Christmas and it still breaks my heart when I hear it but Christmas wouldn't be the same without it.

[@namor357]

I hate that song.

[@Theroadlesstaken]

@@namor357 - I love that song. It’s my all time favourite Christmas song & is the first one I always play each year to get into the festive mood. But each to their own.

[@adamweston4152]

The best Christmas song ever, it's the only song that makes me feel christmassy and the lyrics are a great story,I miss Kirsty and her beautiful voice.

[@arianaajbeaverhausen8175]

I prefer Driving Home For Christmas by Chris Rea, different strokes for different folks I suppose. I do like Fairytale In NY though, just to be clear. 😁 ❤

[@Reba24u]

My favourite Christmas song

[@RPRosen-ki2fk]

Thank you for posting this. Being a fan of Kirsty, it's nice to knowing how the story ended, even if it wasn't a happy ending. RIP Kirsty.

[@rebeccaselley]

Justice for Kirsty and her family. Thanks for uploading this. 💜🌈☮️

[@punkyduck28]

I’d forgotten all about that gem...” there’s a guy works down the chip shop “ I thought she was incredible but then she vanished. Thank you for reminding me of an incredible talent. She was the 9 th Pogue! ❤ such a terrible end to her life, taken away too soon from all those who loved her. Her mother was incredible, fighting for justice. ✨🕊✨💖✨🎸🎺🎷🎻🎤🎬🌟✨🌟

[@OGGalleryCrew92]

Can't believe they missed out she played a hand in the Madchester indie rave scene back in the late 80's with her classic vocals on Happy Mondays - Hallelujah track what a point in music history to miss out !

[@cplcabs]

This wasn't about her career although there seemed to ba a lot on that, it was about what happened to her.

[@nobbystyles4807]

pretty sure that was tremaines 1986 track "in the morning" they used on hallelujah. its pretty well known, the acapella came out on the bootleg lp "acapellas anonymous vol1" which every dj in the world was using (including messers pickering and park). in fact there wasnt a mix tape between 1988 and 1990 that didnt have that lp on it somewhere in one form or another.

[@chapintweed]

She sang on countless classic pop tracks including Ask by The Smiths which also isn’t mentioned but I think the main focus of the programme is on her tragic end and life behind the music.

[@olympian3]

I didn’t know she was on Hallelujah. I’m in such awe of her. Her hands were all over the eighties. in North America she isn’t well known but she chose the track order for the Joshua tree as well.. yes U2. because lillywhite worked on that album. And then the pogues of course, smiths, Tracey ullman, Billy Bragg. She just seemed like an angel and so talented

[@tonytanner4546]

This, is a difficult watch.

[@MichaelMyers66793]

That doesn’t make sense

[@Grimwriggler]

@@MichaelMyers66793 what do you mean? Hearing her son recounting the tragedy is totally heartbreaking

[@MichaelMyers66793]

@@Grimwriggler no his grammar doesn’t make sense this is a difficult to watch

[@RebornAudio]

@@MichaelMyers66793 It makes perfect sense.

[@MichaelMyers66793]

@@RebornAudio did you ever go to school

[@kw2299]

Imagine being that much of a moral coward that you can't admit what you've done.

[@glamdolly30]

Precisely! Just appalling. Kirsty's totally avoidable, violent death was the most appalling tragedy, but the multi millionaire who caused it compounded his sin by refusing to accept any responsibility. Instead he bribed a low paid member of his staff to take the rap for him. Carlos Gonzalez Nova was a poor excuse for a man and human being. I hope Kirsty's death weighed on his conscience in his last moments on Earth, and that he has now faced the ultimate judgement!

[@Pensivata]

But when there's no meaningful "rule of law" - moral cowardice is rewarded and encouraged. In a truly civilised country - we don't expect criminals to "turn themselves in". Why would they? That is why you need the rule of law. Magna Carta and all that.

[@stevenhale2935]

@@Pensivata I would argue in a truly civilised country you don't need such a system because people don't do such horrible things in the first place

[@Wally-H]

This is what rich people do - look at Jeffrey Epstein for example. In the end he decided he would rather die than face his shame. these people are deeply selfish and will do literally anything to dodge a bullet.

[@MarkMahoney]

They haven't got any morals. Pure corruption and lies.

[@tammymcpherson9982]

This documentary really hurt my heart for Kirsty's family and friends! She seemed like a loveable, jolly person to me, and it's very sad that her son's don't have her around for to share the milestones in life. I know that her family and friends continued her memory with the music that Kirsten loved. RIP Kirsty!

[@faye6978]

Thank you so much for uploading this! Haven't seen it for a long time. The footage of her as a child is wonderful.

[@cathimummery6873]

Her last action was to save her 2 sons lives. What a courageous and loving mum

[@aprildannette3816]

Rip Jean Kirsty would be proud you did all you can it is in the lord's hands know the man is dead that owned the boat so sorry if Justice was not served while you were around but Jesus has his say too you tried and I hope the boys remain ok and in their house forever bless you all and Kirsty's partner he seemed to love her and she him