Who Made Doom Guy's Suit? - Doom Lore

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[@JeiPegOfARaptor]

The design is very human

[@alexmediato299]

Well its made to fit a human

[@JeiPegOfARaptor]

@@alexmediato299 :0 no way

[@Woodyisasexybeast]

@alexmediato299 Not necessarily. It’s made to fit a humanoid. Davoth, for example, could more than likely wear the suit and he is not human.

[@Pizza_Time05]

@@Woodyisasexybeast r/woooosh

[@Woodyisasexybeast]

@Pizza_Time05 Nope. Replying to “well it’s made to fit a human” not the original comment. Ironic

[@doomslayer4724]

Doom lore: They killed my fuckin rabbit

[@atmac2162]

Doom lore: They killed my fuckin rabbit, and now it’s EVERYONES problem.

[@doomslayer4724]

@@atmac2162 🤣

[@jasonwhite3824]

The demon that killed the rabbit: I kill this thing and make everyone dead

[@ianpoole5878]

Doom: they killed my rabbit Doom 2: well fuk it's everyone's problem now Doom 64: I don't remember why I'm angry Doom 3: what Doom (2016): I have awoken in hell and I wanna find the monster who holds my rabbit Edit: Doom eternal: I'm the monster holding my rabbit, woah

[@10000RagingBuffalo]

My favorite part is in doom 2 or whenever they did the rabbit thing in the same game demons killed his wife and daughter too and we only remember the rabbit

[@DarthSateus]

In an old interview with Hugo Martin he explained that the reason the Praetor suit has humanoid symbols (at least in the 2016 version) is because Doomguy is constantly adding to, and modifying it. We can see this with how he takes upgrades off the Elite Guard, and furthermore in Eternal where he gives the suit a complete redesign as seen in the fortress of Doom, stripping parts off the 2016 armor to accommodate his new one, so it’s like the suit has been altered heavily from its "original" form when it was given to him by the Wretch mentioned in the Slayer’s Testaments

[@Woodyisasexybeast]

Ah, ok cool. Very interesting. Makes a lot of sense. Though I still wonder who “the wretch” was. I’m guessing Samur Maykr but it’s hard to say for sure EDIT: it’s not Samur or Valen, Hugo has confirmed that the wretch is a separate character

[@DarthSateus]

@@Woodyisasexybeast That’s still a mystery. Some ppl are under the impression that "Wretch" could be the Betrayer, since not only do we see him in hell (since we know the armor was made there) but he’s also seen supplying Doomguy with armaments. But personally I believe the Wretch is some kind of Demon that betrayed Hell, since the Slayer’s Testaments (told by the Dark Lord) label his acts as "heresy" which wouldn’t make sense for the Betrayer since he was never allied with them to begin with, but for an actual demon it makes much more sense

[@dutch_asocialite]

And the true reason is that the Doom Slayer was originally going to be one of many power armoured Space Marines (or something like that) since prelease material shows his helmet's Slayer's Mark replaced with F90.

[@dutch_asocialite]

@@DarthSateus The wording of the Slayer's Testaments directly implicates the Wretch as a betrayer of the demons, there's no other interpretation.

[@vsluj3508]

yeah but where thye hell has he got the workshop and tools to even execute such a task

[@raven5953]

Here lemme help: he was part of the sentinels, so it likely was created by some kind of armorer within that group

[@achimpanzee9210]

It was made by a wretch within hells armies

[@amirhaikal6672]

​@@achimpanzee9210 not "a" wretch, THE wretch. He was called that because he is a demon that made the armor for the one man that has been murdering every other demons in hell. Imagine humanity is being attack by an alien god. And then there's a bunch of people that started to make weapons and armor for that god. Won't you call them names too?

[@norielgames4765]

​@@amirhaikal6672 imagine trying to conquer an alien race and then they send an immortal god of rage to destroy us.

[@aguafria9003]

​@@norielgames4765then some random guy of your race just make that god armor which makes him even stronger

[@T57Custodian]

​@@aguafria9003then he sends you back to hell and due to time differences he's there to and beats you to death a second time 😂

[@ThePolishBader]

Just imagine they have like 21 other doom guy suits just laying around somewhere....

[@dutch_asocialite]

That was originally the case.

[@i-have-a-handle]

@@dutch_asocialite so theres 22 chosen ones?

[@dutch_asocialite]

@@i-have-a-handle No, I mean the original protagonist for Doom 4 was just a regular US Space Marine sent in to clean up the Mars Facility. The first gameplay trailer opens with the helmet equip animation from the start of Doom 4 and we can see that in place of the Slayer's Mark is a designation F90, which coupled with the rest of the English script on the armour strongly indicates that the Slayer was just going to be a regular marine. There is a theory that each of the trailers shows two to three different marines fighting demons, thus showing they're just a few of many.

[@ShabbyCoronet81]

They’re all stiff when someone pushes them over like a mannequin.. like these gigantic pieces of heavy alloy have been starched 😂

[@ThePolishBader]

@@ShabbyCoronet81 I'm Gonna Make a Comedic Animation Of That Now.

[@ShatteredGlassUnicron]

Personally because of its ability to interact with UAC tech, I think it's possible that it could be his original armor heavily modified by the demon dubbed "The Wretch".

[@Woodyisasexybeast]

That’s possible. If that’s the case, it’s been completely and totally altered though. The armor in DOOM 64, which is what takes place before 2016, looks nothing like it

[@Duskofoolacile420]

@@Woodyisasexybeastit’s soooo similar to everything marine in doom 3 even the turrets

[@UrosStankovic-xf9uq]

​@@Duskofoolacile420Maybe that wretch stole some equipment from uac and then made the suit from that

[@dlcemerald]

I don't think so, I believe his original armor got taken from him when he was first captured by the night sentinels, especially since we see they took his helmet, and then once he began proving himself he got that one but later replaced it entirely with the praetor suit

[@Aileron90]

They didn’t accidentally discover doom guy armour in hell, they deliberately went to get it, because it was Samuel Hayden’s insurance policy if things got out of hand.

[@jesusvera7941]

not only that, fi you know everything about the dlc lore of eternal samuel already knew where to search and what he would find.

[@elibeeblebrox1084]

So the suit doesn't have any biometric verification, no soul recognition system, no passphrase, or anything like that. The reason it works when Doomguy wears it is simply because it knows better.

[@thanos1335]

His suit is one of those outfits where you think "That's not practical at all, its way too heavy and stiff. Nobody can wear that" But then Doom Slayer comes in and instantly proves everybody wrong and ROCKS the suit with Style.

[@The_Hydration_Police]

Not only that, it BECOMES flexible on him too!

[@ordinaryfellow9093]

Well I mean, it's not made for a normal human, rather for a super human god-like immortal entity fueled by pure rage and hatred

[@thanos1335]

​@@ordinaryfellow9093Obviously cuz by the second game, he became so much more powerful that he had to remove the sleeves on his suit to let his Huge Biceps breathe. Man NEVER leaves the Gym.

[@Lemon_Slices]

What’s worse is that his normal flesh is said to be even stronger than the suit Edit apparently anything can spawn a roast battle between comments nowadays

[@Dragonsoul82445]

Yes the suit is his condom

[@ethandoessomestuff...8949]

@@Dragonsoul82445 so the suit is his condom or his skin is?

[@Dragonsoul82445]

@@ethandoessomestuff...8949 lol the suit

[@mediokay]

He just wears it to make the demons feel better like theyll have a chance if they get it off him

[@milkymexican7044]

Why do you ngas say random shit like this his skin is not stronger than the suit why tf you tho he wears it stop making shit up buddy

[@nucle3ar_wint3r]

I personally believe this is his old marine armor from when he was still human, just heavily modified by said "wretch". That would explain the UAC integration, human/military look, and the number designation. He was probably Marine D22.

[@tennebnoswad4383]

It isn't

[@nucle3ar_wint3r]

@@tennebnoswad4383 lemme theorize

[@tennebnoswad4383]

@@nucle3ar_wint3r there is no theorising to be had because the suit and weapon have been explained in doom eternal

[@Woodyisasexybeast]

@tennebnoswad4383 the wretch was not explained in eternal and therefore, the praetor suit hasn’t been either. We still don’t know the identity of that character.

[@tennebnoswad4383]

@@Woodyisasexybeast you meet the wretch in doom eternal

[@rodolfocaicedo07]

The praetor suit was created by the Sentinels, according to the historical context of the game, during the events of Doom 1, Doom 2 and its expansions Evilution and Plutonia the Doom Guy was a human with only weapons and enough willpower to kill demons, at the end of these events the doom guy falls through a portal that takes him to the planet of the Sentinels. It was there where he was found and given the opportunity to fight to gain a place in their society (the Sentinels themselves explain that he spoke a language that sounded "dirty and uncivilized" (the doom guy probably already had a great post-traumatic stress and many traumas from his encounters with demons so he kept saying "rip and tear" implying that he could not think of anything else but to kill every last demon). For years he fight shoulder to shoulder with the Sentinels and earned a place among them, eventually Samuel Hayden who is actually a Mayker saw that unstoppable force and with one of his celestial machines imbued the doom guy with unstoppable strength and the ability to absorb the energy of his enemies to continue killing them, (at this point the doom guy transforms into doom slayer no longer an human) in addition to his armor which is a mix between Mayker and Sentinel technology adapted specially for him. Plus the UAC found several Sentinel technology and Samuel Hayden as head scientist make technology for human with enough compatibility (remember, the UAC want to use the infernal energy)

[@Woodyisasexybeast]

You’re right about everything except the creators of the suit. It was made by “the wretch” who Hugo confirmed is neither Valen nor Hayden.

[@xXtuscanator22Xx]

Isn’t Doom Guy’s normal flesh like a lot stronger than the suits armor

[@samuellaging6791]

This is late, but don't forget that Doom 64 is also canon and that game's ending is him being stuck in hell fighting demons for eons until he was found by the Knight Sentinels. I don't think Evilution and Plutonia are exactly part of the lore but 64 surely is.

[@xObscureMars]

​Can we all agree that he was just going to be another Doom Marine, and for whatever reason, they decided they wanted to have a story so instead we got a bloated pos of a narrative that was changed after they already planned to make a game more akin to part 1. In fact, Dolm 2016 actually is a much better game imo than Eternal for many reasons. One of which is the contrived story they came up with. Samuel Hayden was way cooler as a mad scientist, and his reveal was the last awful nail in the coffin as far as any expectation of a good story. Just a horroble contrived idea. ,​@@Woodyisasexybeast

[@Flematrix]

We also can't forget that this all started for survival and a dead bunny

[@Boneism]

I love the Doomslayer. The fact that he uses weapons to kill the demons purely to make things more entertaining for himself and he could easily slaughter every demon in seconds but he just doesn't is cool.

[@wandering_nobody]

The wretch who shall not be named. The betrayer.

[@Woodyisasexybeast]

Hugo said the wretch is a different character. It’s not Valen

[@wandering_nobody]

@@Woodyisasexybeast well, maybe. I just thought It made sense to me.

[@alvincampo5811]

The suit is so strong it endured VEGA’s meltdown point blank

[@Sideswipin]

I dont think it was a foolish experiment because hayden (seraphim, the one Who created the Slayer )was looking for doomguy all Along because hé needed him to solve the conflict

[@Mr.Fortunato]

According to the lore. (if i remember right) The Seraphim upgraded Doomslayers suit with the Maykr's Divinity Machine and made the Doomslayer stronger faster and more agile to continue his war against the demons. Rip and Tear, until its done.

[@Sideswipin]

@@Mr.Fortunato I dont think he upgraded the armor but the Slayer himself

[@Mr.Fortunato]

@@Sideswipin I thought it was the suit, but i could be wrong, the lore can get confusing at times

[@Sideswipin]

@@Mr.Fortunato True

[@maximovassilyiwanoff]

Works with The Slayer's argent energy, maybe.

[@Amandamotherbasestaff1971]

D18: *armored everywhere but the abs*

[@Liar_hunter449]

It works on the doom guy perfectly cause he is the chosen one.

[@z-man1237]

I think the praetor suit is a mix of both his original Marine armor, which had a HUD and Weapon Storage unit, and his Sentinel armor that he wore during the argenta civil war. And given that it’s impervious and runs on Argent Energy, it makes sense that a traitorous Demon, the Wretch, made the suit by fusing them together

[@kyrinjohnson7668]

Imagine a army of doomsayers 😭

[@BackroomsArchived-tr8gq]

Hell already didn’t stand a chance against doomguy😭 If anything multiple doomguys will just eliminate hell quicker

[@kraxusgaming9483]

space marines

[@ExcuseMeWhat13]

The D22, in my opinion, is a military denomination. D Company, 2nd Platoon, 2nd Squad. If that is true, then there could be upwards of 3,000 of those suits, all varying in usage. There would be medic suits, Heavy Artillery suits, Sniper suits, the Foot Soldier suit (most common and customizable, like the Doom Guy's suit), and different levels of protection (depending on rank, so Doom Guy's would be a Sergeant First Class, in my opinion) There is the final option though. It could just be decorational, and have no meaning whatsoever.

[@namesomega3694]

Issac Clarke would love to be doomslayer

[@thedoomslayer9810]

It’s made out of doomium or soul of the doomed demons.

[@Woodyisasexybeast]

lol. Doomium

[@mythicknz8203]

​@@Woodyisasexybeast And when the energy is more intense it is called Doomium MAX

[@saltysovereign]

i believe that there's also uac logos on the suit, so i think that doom guy is upgrading and repairing his suit with parts around the uac facility in the form of game upgrades and prator points

[@dutch_asocialite]

This isn't commonly known, but the protagonist of Doom 4 was originally not going to be the Doom Slayer. Obviously he looked identical, but based on the prelease gameplay he was going to be a regular Space Marine in power armour, as his helmet lacked the Slayer's mark and instead sported the designation "F90" as well as being equipped with various equipment that allowed him to interface with various UAC technologies (e.g. a small drone that allowed him to view holographic recordings).

[@jaredhardegree8377]

Doom Guy is just the Master Chief obviously.

[@Woodyisasexybeast]

His new suit just came up from Seongnam this morning

[@madk3isverycool]

Doom came out before halo even existed

[@TrulySoviet2436]

@@madk3isverycool OH, REALLY? IT’S ALMOST AS IF IT’S A JOKE!!?!?!

[@Mash3OH3]

Nah I prefer to keep them as separate entities.

[@ghost_rider465]

Bro doom came out before halo 💀

[@nivannair6880]

The suit chooses it's master

[@mythicknz8203]

Does it cost 5 grand though 🐝🚘

[@stephenbyrne2170]

My guess is, it's because nobody but the Doom Slayer himself can handle wearing it. Or its designed not to activate unless it recognised his unique bio-signature, as a suprr soldier elite.

[@Woodyisasexybeast]

That seems to be the implication at least

[@gabrielmalta557]

Perhaps the suit would only be activated by someone who was completely determined by their fury to kill the demons, and Doom Slayer is able to use it because of what the demons did to Daisy and his wife and son

[@amaroqgrant3759]

I’ve always wondered if doom is just the precursor to Warhammer 40 K

[@DefinitelyFroggyDioBrando]

I mean... The machine guns/assault rifles we get in 2016 and eternal can fire micro rockets

[@dutch_asocialite]

The way 40k is set up, nearly anything can be a precursor to 40k.

[@thekingofgames1210]

@@dutch_asocialite so who knows maybe real life is a precursor to 40k XD

[@mac10beams52]

@@dutch_asocialitesuffer not the unclean to live

[@allthebitschaos3261]

I mean. It could quite literally be that Doom Guy is actually the Emperor after he is woken back up due to the appearance of the Chaos Gods.

[@xavierw.986]

"In a foolish human expedition 🤓." I've heard saying no offense lets people know I'm not serious

[@jamescentersmith9323]

Let's just admit, Doomguy is an incredibly powerful fictional character who faces very few challenges due to his near-indestructible nature, making him similar to Saitama in his universe.😂

[@mythicknz8203]

He's one punch man

[@redemption8608]

My personal headcannon as to why the armor had the symbol ‘d22’ on it, was because this doomguy is the same marine from the original games, but who eventually got trapped and entombed down in hell. That would explain why it can interface with human technology, and why it was designed for him, a human. As to why no one seems to remember who he is, or what he did for them in the first games: maybe it’s because time works differently in hell, where he ended up getting saved by humans from the past, or he spent so much time down in hell humanity was destroyed and had to rebuild back up to that point, or simply forgot about him. Who can say? But at the end of the day he is still just that same marine, fighting for a people who aren’t truly his. But doomguy doesn’t care who it is he’s defending. Because all he wants to do, is kill demons.

[@Woodyisasexybeast]

Hugo confirmed the explanation is tied to the multiverse. The earth from the original doom games is a different earth from 2016/eternal. He traveled from one to the other. Still unclear how though. I’m hoping The Dark Ages explains it

[@basedchicana1776]

He's still way more durable than the suit

[@Woodyisasexybeast]

Absolutely. The suit is nothing without doomguy.

[@Doom_SlayerYT]

NGL, I do love my suit

[@ghostsghoul]

you'd look better with it off tbh

[@Doom_SlayerYT]

@@ghostsghoul 😏perhaps

[@ghostsghoul]

@@Doom_SlayerYT im free tn ;)

[@Doom_SlayerYT]

@@ghostsghoul are you?😳

[@ghostsghoul]

@@Doom_SlayerYT are you ?

[@krces1]

Doom Guy can walk on Sun surface that strong and undistructable this suit is

[@UltravioletMangoOfficial]

No other praetor suit has been found because if the other individuals that wore one are anything like doomguy, you're never laying a hand on another suit unless you want to die, lol.

[@darkentity5443]

Doom 2016 was the best doom game. 👇

[@greenghost9368]

No 😂

[@ghost3lite216]

Doomguy is Link... Look into it. A hero in green, slaying monsters with a powerful sword. And D22 is Doom 2022

[@Blobfish9999]

Quality Lore here ! I really hope that we'll learn more about "the Wretch" in Doom Dark Ages

[@koil475]

Can't wait to see if Doom Dark Ages, ends with you in the Sarcophagus

[@B727X]

That's the new Fortnite guy right

[@ChadHellgado]

That’s the guy from Halo

[@achimpanzee9210]

Ain’t this the guy from Quake?

[@raven5953]

​@@achimpanzee9210he's from doom.

[@achimpanzee9210]

@@raven5953 it was a joke

[@therealninjastar]

@@raven5953 No he’s from Destiny

[@xboxfcontent_yt]

“Prey tore” one silly goofy wave pronouncing predator but somehow bad ass

[@Woodyisasexybeast]

It’s not called the predator suit. It’s the praetor suit.

[@andrewmartinsharples]

I was under the impression that the UAC modeled their tech after the slayer suit and that most of the argent tech was only really possible because they were trying to reverse engineer it

[@hardware20x]

I played the original doom back in the day when it first came out in the early 90's. Back then he was just a normal space marine that fought against a never ending onslaught of demons, slowly got access to OP weapons. And under insurmountable odds, he barely made it out alive in the end. Haven't played it since then. Fast forward to now, he's superman / God with even more OP weapons. What the heck happened? Seems like there is no challenge.

[@Woodyisasexybeast]

He’s the same character. His abilities simply escalated.

[@louisralph6206]

Doom 2016 better story than eternal

[@Woodyisasexybeast]

Ok

[@monkshoodable]

Doom Guy manifested his suit through sheer force of will...

[@mikehawk486]

Doom lore: - rabbit dies - man proceeds to eviscerate trillions

[@the_coca_cola_commander]

Doomguy + doom suit = doom slayer

[@Woodyisasexybeast]

Nut really. More like: doom guy + divinity machine = doom slayer

[@thomasmohn8151]

Maybe the d in “D22” is the model (like how the Gundam in the original anime is the RX-78-2. Coincidentally the second unit) and the 22 is how many were made (like when I’m referring to ALL of the RX-78 Gundams I say unit 2 or unit 3 if I’m talking about the origins of the RX-78-2 and the RX-78-3. [the two surviving RX-78 units]).

[@SaltyMaverick]

I feel like Doom: the Dark Ages is going to end with how he wound up in that sarcophagus.

[@Drumhandsmike]

“Who made the Doom Guy’s Suit?” Proceeds to not tell you who made the suit.

[@sussy_6998]

probably his original heavily modified armour from his original timeline before he went back in time to the current setting.

[@shovelmonke_vr]

Actually, in doom eternal, using sentinel batteries, you can unlock other suits

[@xDyslexicRobotx]

The fact the suit doesn't work unless the doom slayer is wearing it badass. Reminds me of the guns from Judge Dredd how they only work if the owner is using it.

[@dreamshotmedia]

Marauder out here like "what about my armor"

[@Woodyisasexybeast]

The praetor suit was clearly inspired but sentinel garb but it isn’t the same

[@user-jv5de7nj7s]

The first doom game had other people with that kind of armor😮

[@Woodyisasexybeast]

Not really. The old armor is certainly similar but it isn’t a 1 to 1 copy at all

[@ghkevilhd44]

That number indicates that there could be at least 21 more Doom slayers out there

[@TheAlphaOmegaX3]

Thought it be cool for the suit to have been a blessed-holy suit and doom guy himself blessed with strength, endurance, vitality from God. Like a battle angel of sorts.

[@bogosbinted2378]

Oh shit, i JUST remembered that i bought this game last night, fucking love this game, thx for reminding me

[@Insanity_Bringer]

"as mysterious as the doom marine himself" A, what I believe to be a soldier (Going off the first doom game) who got themselves caught up in a situation, and now they can't back out of it.

[@gilliganIII]

Doom is such a simple game, until you start paying attention

[@Washingmachine225]

It’s the dark lord’s old armor maybe

[@Woodyisasexybeast]

Could be. The lore says it was made by “the wretch” though and we still don’t know who that is

[@donkeysack]

Another reason why Doom Guy wipes Kratos 1v1

[@australianman09]

Well depends on gear and what version of the character we talking bout kratos at peak power as in during the Norse saga without holding back may stand a chance agains the slayer I haven’t played gow 1 2 and 3 so I don’t know bout the gear but as far as I know kratos could stand a chance just depends on certain things

[@Valast]

I mean, both are god killers and Doom Guy doesnt really attack humans unless they attack him or his fam/pet

[@Demoknight256]

“The design is very human”

[@RathanInc]

The next game will deffinetly introduce us to the creator of the suit

[@koolyaadie976]

I left as clueless as I came

[@OneManYesMaam]

Dark ages is gonna kick ass with the lore it’ll bring

[@nicolasbecerra6601]

I'm guessing the reason it looks so human like is that whoever worked on it based it on his UAC-made armor from Doom 64

[@gumby3057]

The 3d artwork in Doom is first rate. Doom Eternal maps, story line and animation are on a whole other level.

[@whitefox8827]

damn it, there was a time when doom slayer killed demons with his bare fists (because he won't find them in hell) and with his bare ass covered in the blood of the unclean, perhaps for millennia or millions of years, because in hell the concept of time practically does not matter

[@ismellthecheeze6436]

He has like several of them at his base and Evan taking them apart for redesigns

[@raywhitmire2738]

Anybody else think a game about Doom Guy 5v5's would be hella lit?

[@ironjavelin7482]

When he said its indestructible i think back to the first doom and how easily he can die on high difficulties xD

[@tastynoobr3685]

Praetor suit is iconic, idk why they made it sleeveless in doom eternal

[@bzeffer]

A fantastic detail that I remembered when you said no other Praetor suits have been found, the Murauders have something very similar, but much more medieval in design

[@Woodyisasexybeast]

I imagine The Dark Ages will detail how he ended up with the praetor suit

[@Acecoltrain5941]

As a doom fan the suit is made from some super tough diamonds you can learn that from the lore and most likely it only works for him is probably because he was blessed with some super strength or something cause when you kill the second maybe third demon elite thing it says “does one not wish for more power” or something like that

[@jennywatson2527]

I think the uac wanted to hide the fact it was an unknown armour set and tried to put it on with uac soldiers but like you said the suit doesn't respond well untill doom guy wears it and when Samuel hayden probably knew this seeing how he was samurr makyr secretly and wanted to keep the suit in the coffin thing

[@Arch_demon26]

The alloy is indestructible Doom guy destroys it in eternal to make his own

[@SomaCruz500]

TLDR; the Preator suit is the original UAC armor from the original Doom series, but modified by a Sentinel that underwent Demonization. The suit was made completely by humans, and the demons were metaphorically or primitively explaining the Slayer's powers. "The Wretch" is not named, and since that word appears in other codex entries referring to other beings, "wretch" seems to be the Demons' catch-all term for anything that isn't a Demon, or is and doesn’t act like a Demon. As we can see from pictures of the armor, there's English on Doomguy's armor, as if it were mass produced by a corporation (gee I wonder which big bad game Corporation it could be), but the Demons' writing system was taken wholesale from the Argent D'Nur when they conquered it, so if Doomguy had been one of them, there wouldn't be English on his Armor, but runes instead. The conclusion is that *Doomguy* in 2016/Eternal *IS* the same one from Classic Doom games so, likely, this means when he got teleported to Argent D'Nur, they upgraded his already existing armor and the Wretch further upgraded, after Argent D’Nur fell, using Argent energies and some sort of runic Hell smithing techniques. Remember, Argent energy can corrupt beings and make them into Demons, which likely means, “The Wretch”, is a likely a transformed Sentinel of Argent D’Nur. Quote: “The true nature of Argent energy is explained in Doom Eternal when the Slayer goes to Nekravol, where demons torture their victims until the last flickers of hope are removed. The soul is then extracted from the victim, and the husk body mutates into a new demon.” Quote directly from Hayden himself: “The demons only utilize a portion of the resources that come from the human soul. It was the Maykrs and the Sentinel Priests who discovered and unlocked the true power of the Essence. They combined Sentinel and Hell energies together, refined it, and created... Argent.” So somewhere along the way, a Sentinel got Demonified, turned into “The Wretch” and still, somehow, retained his former self to some degree and upgraded the original UAC armor Doomguy showed up in. Mystery solved, even if it isn’t at all important to the series or the narrative the series is telling. Pretty simple A-B through line. Friendly reminder, not everything in a story needs explaining, or digging into.

[@Azeryn_Sylver]

I'm pretty sure that the armour we are going to see in Doom: The Dark Ages is the original Praetor suit. It might have been redesigned a little by the Slayer, but it should roughly be what was given to him by the Wretch

[@maximyllion]

the design is very human

[@chempo4321]

It’s master chiefs armor. The covenant knew he was a demon. They took care of the covenant and now they’re fighting through demons

[@cvi4057]

Thank you for getting the lore right 👏🏼 I think D22 is the iteration of the suit. In Doom Eternal when you go to the colletion room you can see that Doom Guy periodically modifies the suit. It would seem to me the knowledge and process to create the suit was done so by a demon more advanced in ranking than the hell priests, the wretch, and only the knowledge as to how to alter or tinker with the armor is left with Doom Guy himself. I also think Doom Guy is more than capable of producing the suit of armor himself simply because he conscripted its creation to begin with.

[@The_grimaldi2]

I wonder if doom the dark ages will explain this

[@Woodyisasexybeast]

I’m willing to bet on it

[@nori-theghost1100]

His armor is one in the same as the miradors. They served the sentinels together until the war in which doom slayer was put into his deep sleep

[@Woodyisasexybeast]

No, his armor was made by “the wretch”. Hugo also confirmed that it wasn’t made by Valen nor Hayden.

[@atibamaule]

Before you Rip and Tear, make sure to wear a helmet.

[@tshegomolepo6774]

Imagine finding out that the wretch created a D23 suit 😅

[@lordhuntington5704]

The doom marine is just Masterchief who fell through universes.

[@Captain_Rex_0rder66]

Wait till Doom Slayer discovers Hazbin Hotel (There all cooked)

[@puzzlingpuzzles3745]

For a second i thought title said dad lore. 😂

[@Xanthrazhellfyre9501]

So basically. We don't know.

[@sirpaladinknight5491]

"The suit is ancient" Proceeds to have modern design elements and specifically modern emglish enscribed on it.

[@Woodyisasexybeast]

Yep. One can very easily add English inscriptions to the suit after the fact. The argenta appear to speak English, they’re very ancient.

[@jddragon9915]

Imagine in doom the dark ages there are gonna be other people like the doom slayer but he’s still the strongest and they all have their own preator suits but they all get killed in dark ages

[@juiceboxbzrk]

Probably sent back in time from the future

[@kevinduteau2459]

Kinda just seems like they added that lore after the suit look was made so they just forced the lore into that mold

[@elmashighlights7267]

The sturdy green armor worn by the DOOM Slayer in DOOM(2016) is full of detail, from seams and reinforcements to more recognizable elements like the red Praetor logo painted above the visor. However, one understated marking on the Praetor Suit has caught the attention of keen-eyed DOOM fans since the game’s release - a small white designation of “D22.” On the right shoulder guard and left-hand neckbrace on the DOOM Slayer’s character model, you can clearly see what looks like a “D” followed by the number “22.” Though the Praetor Suit is chock full of etchings and markers that seem in line with a piece of military grade equipment, the visibility of the D22 on the Slayer’s armor has prompted players to believe the designation to be some sort of in-joke or reference, possibly even a clue that explains the Suit’s background. To get to the bottom of this, we got in touch with DOOM (2016) and DOOM Eternal’s creative director Hugo Martin and asked him directly why D22 was chosen for the Praetor Suit. And fellow Slayers, we got an answer: “It looks cool," he explained. Another case closed for the Slayers Club! I think Hugo also commented on it during some other streams, where it boiled down to the same answer - it's just there for looks.

[@Woodyisasexybeast]

I’ve seen the interview now lol. Still fun to speculate and almost certainly will be explored in the dark ages

[@OOKAMI3483]

Is doomguy as durable as he is without the armour and can his skin be damaged or cut through like can his arm be sliced off and he Regenerates it when he absorbs argent energy from demons????

[@Woodyisasexybeast]

He’s very durable but the the limits to that durability are unclear. All we know is that he is killable. The demons could kill him, he’s just too badass

[@driftbosfallout]

Virtually indestructible, man inside, very destructible