Who's More Skilled: Kyrie Irving vs Pistol Pete | Gilbert Arenas Break Down

[@curlyboyx]

Pistol Pete finally getting some love. Love Gilbert man

[@BlackDotLiving]

Right exactly

[@shanemcbride9457]

Gil constantly speak facts. Even when you don’t necessarily agree with him at first you gotta give his opinion respect. He’s been there done thay

[@BingeworthyContent]

I really enjoyed this segment. He gave a great breakdown here

[@alanlee67]

Shane he's the only bronsexual that I give a shred of credit to

[@ShangoDC]

Magic Johnson when asked who was the best showman of all time, Magic said Pistol Pete.

[@robwarren8360]

Different?

[@goodfellabeats]

Isiah Thomas said the same thing. Pete was from another planet.

[@Y2KQuan]

Who cares, magic Johnson is literally just another player

[@trollkenobi6727]

@@Y2KQuan "just another player" wtf you smoking??? Magic GOAT PG of all time

[@Youngmoneycashmoney]

@@trollkenobi6727 curry*

[@BasketballJones48021]

Gil speaking facts! Pistol Pete was doing moves no one else could duplicate, and then he was doing moves that get credited to another player… Magic type passes, Rondo fakes, bombing from deep like Curry, Dream style shakes, fake behind-the-back passes, look-away half spins (The Smitty), something similar to the Shamgod, passing it off the backboard to himself, stopping and popping on a dime, stutter steps and dribbles, crossovers like the one Iso Joe did to Paul Pierce, between-the-legs passes and dribbles, underhanded passes like the one people lost their minds over from Lamelo, spin passes like White Chocolate, crossovers leading to floaters, crazy jumpers ala Kobe Bryant, passes through the opponent’s legs, etc etc… on the regular, in the 1970’s (even before in College)!! And this man played without a 3pt-line, came up in an era where hardcore fans, coaches and even some players frowned upon a flashy game, in a time when refs actually emphasized the dribbling rules (much stricter), a league dominated by bigmen too! Maravich was also at least 6’5’’ w/o shoes on, while being a good athlete, with PG-like skills, SG scoring prowess, and just an absurdly skilled offensive game!

[@back2back379]

Pistol Pete's ball handling ranks up there with anyone. Good to see Gil showing real respect and props to a true legend.

[@BasketballFundamentals]

Pistol Pete would fit in any era. He can shoot it from anywhere, combine that with elite passing and you have a perfect offensive player.

[@nikemanswag15]

pistol pete couldn’t shoot a left hand layup over jeremy grant. relax

[@BasketballJones48021]

@@nikemanswag15 He shot them over the likes of Wilt Chamberlain…

[@SHOTBYCC_]

@@BasketballJones48021 he’d get babied

[@pranayb1248]

100% Pistol Pete is a legend. Thanks for pointing this out Gil!

[@Souletics]

Pistol was awesome and a legend but the true progenitor innovator is the Globetrotters where pistol pete gained his inspiration from.

[@dennisthemenace855]

Yes ! Also note Rucker park !

[@wessancho3562]

Exactly

[@WallTrapMedia]

@@dennisthemenace855 Man hell no. Pete probably never even heard of Rucker Park by the time he was at LSU. His father was a coach so I'm sure he knew of Meadowlark Lemon and the Globetrotters but Pete def didn't have any influence from Rucker Park.

[@dennisthemenace855]

@@WallTrapMedia smh bro everything Pete did was ALREADY DONE by the Harlem globetrotters or in Rucker park #FACTS

[@cheezyweezy5084]

@@dennisthemenace855 thanks for not listening

[@kaydee1485]

No gonna lie, Gill sounds like the smart debate guy that does no real research but tries to argue point based on his own memory and logic.

[@EGarrett01]

Yeah, there were plenty of guys who played basketball in a fancy way before Pistol Pete. The Globetrotters started doing it in the 1940's. Not to mention Bob Cousy etc. Everyone has influences.

[@soberveganhipster]

You do see the irony in that coming from someone commenting on the internet, right?

[@zpacify]

Pistol moved liked how modern players -- in the 70s. He was the jump in the evolutionary chain in basketball. If you look at his dribbling and ball handlingit was way ahead of his peers. Even though now it may look plain, back then it was revolutionary and with the passing skills.He was truly a player ahead of his time.

[@derrelloliver163]

This video just made me play 2k and drop 50 w good ol Pistol Pete

[@kaoticteknique2806]

Funny I was thinking this same thing and Gil having a discussion about it

[@joeymarino7]

I knew Pistol. Went to his camp as a kid, was a ball-boy for the Jazz in New Orleans. You can’t imagine how creative this guys was. So little quality film on him. He could score at will! Imagine if he could have carried the ball back then. Imagine if he was on a super team and didn’t have to carry the burden of scoring.

[@stackntax1308]

Pistol Pete was like a magician on the basketball court just Google his tutorials with Red on KZbin

[@nycgst]

Thank you

[@coachnickens6652]

Pistol Pete was unreal, I never really thought about him not having any reference. Gil is spot on with this one!

[@darnarxz]

Globetrotters?

[@pistolpetetc]

​@@darnarxz Meh

[@goncalosilvapereira6790]

This Gilbert has good skills as a historian of the game... it's a shame sometimes that he loses direction, and the focus that the game is an evolution and that comparing eras is an eternal conversation....

[@Michigan_dad]

I like this take about Pistol 🔫 Pete. I never thought of it like that.🧐🤔🤔

[@ramgarr]

Mr. Arenas has respect. Tell the truth.

[@ramgarr]

Gil is on point.

[@johnpoon7881]

I made the same comparison when I heard them say Kyrie was the most skilled guard ever. Good to know I'm not crazy

[@starr0401]

It's like comparing a current top guitarist against Eddie Van Halen.

[@fastballfilms4214]

Horrible comparison. It’s like comparing Eddie Van Halen to jimmy Hendrix or jimmy paige

[@samsmith8086]

Who

[@Wyndamn]

Rest in Peace ✌️🙏💓 Eddie was and is a legend.

[@ronaldhazley7859]

Eddie Isley? You're tripping. Jimi Hendrix played under the Isley Brothers. Stop it.

[@anthonyhodgson2934]

@@ronaldhazley7859 Pretty sure you are the only one talking about the Isley brothers 🤡🤣

[@ronaldhazley7859]

Pete had the Harlem Globetrotters to reference from.. Come on GILBERT....

[@rickyt9039]

@@davidmcTurd Mr. McTurd go wipe !

[@storiesofyonko]

I think the argument was for offensively skilled so it’s hard to compare a super elite offensively skilled player to just a category of just passing

[@xavierbeal4862]

Great observations Gil 🔥❤👂 learn something every day

[@jayburnham3994]

Hmmm well I'd say possibly that was the talent of Pete. And I'd say it's Kyrie skill. So I'll give Kyrie the nod for this particular question.

[@TheFilmSpace1]

I used to watch Pistol Pete movie when o was younger on my VHS. Amazing player one of my favorites

[@DatBoyKEL]

Love this. About time Pistol gets some recognition

[@STANDONFAITH229]

Pistol was doing everything passes unseen... Kylie is just an amazing scorer...shit I'm 27 and ik this

[@NotoriousSSV]

Can't talk about Kyrie without mentioning his handle

[@STANDONFAITH229]

@D Rows nawl it shows yall don't see it the way way you should like G.A. said Pistol had no reference for the shit he was doing he just had it...Kyrie had all the greats before him so that means alot... now I will say Kyrie can be dogish when he turn it on that boy unrivaled

[@not-anon5359]

Young kyrie got insane handles but present kyrie focuses more on scoring his current dribble moves aren't that fancy anymore...

[@deez9805]

@D Rows he really not tho 😂 he’s good at everything else but Kyrie is only great at scoring. He can’t run the offense and still to this day hasn’t figured out how to consistently when games when he gotta defer to somebody else. Same thing with KD. They not capable of being a harden, Luka, lebron, dame, type role. They just assassins.

[@T27727]

@@STANDONFAITH229 yea he did it first & had no references but that doesn’t mean he is more skilled it just means he did it first.

[@KENSHIN.TREL147]

Hibachi just earned so much more respect from me. There’s just not enough Pistol Pete Praise. My fav player of all time

[@goodfellabeats]

People here are comparing Pete's highlights to Kyrie's highlights which is dumb. Some of Pete's best highlights don't even make the reel. I went through a stretch when I watched a bunch of Pete's games on KZbin ( I think they took some of them down now). I saw dude make a FULL COURT bounce pass between his legs!! Pistol was from another planet.

[@MrPiraka123]

Do you happen to know what game that pass happened at. I’ve been trying to see that pass forever!

[@goodfellabeats]

No I don't remember which game it was. I remember watching it years ago. I really wish I could find it though.

[@chrisjean9685]

Passing ? Ok Pistol got it. But Dribbling ? Kyrie. Shooting ? Kyrie. Footwork ? Kyrie ? Under the rim finishing ? Kyrie. Post game , mid range , that’s Kyrie. Difficult shot making ? Kyrie. Cmon now Gil.

[@speedwagon6-e1b]

How does this not have at least 20 likes? I love Pete but this is the obvious answer

[@andresmendozaondatube]

casual. know something about the game first. Pete was the best college scorer, without the dam 3point line, of all time give him some respect. kyries special but he's inspired by those in the past.

[@speedwagon6-e1b]

@@andresmendozaondatube We aint talking about who was a top college scorer here tho. We talking about who’s more skilled

[@markhadler5918]

@@speedwagon6-e1b kyrie is not an superstar.

[@speedwagon6-e1b]

@@markhadler5918 bro idc whether hes an all star or a superstar or anything. We looking at who’s more skilled aren’t we? Why are ppl bringing these other stuff when we are looking at who’s more SKILLED with the eye test?

[@obeyhansolo]

I discovered Pistol Pete from NBA Street Vol. 2 ❤️

[@as-iy1vo]

CRAZY!!! Gilbert actin like magic and pete dont have identical highhlights🤣

[@goodfellabeats]

Pffff, Highlights are created by geeks with degrees in video production. I've watched a bunch of Pete's games on KZbin and actually watched Magic play when I was young. No comparison. Pete was from another planet and most of his "highlights" aren't even used.

[@juliangarcia449]

Gil fucking knows ball

[@urbanlegendsandtrivia2023]

Pistol had to dribble with his hands on top of the ball though, as the palming or carrying the ball rule wasn't removed until 1992. Imagine what he could have done if he was allowed to put his hands under the basketball.

[@MattKibblehouse]

Pistol Pete is one of those guys who would've been far more valuable in today's game. The range, creativity and skill with the amount of space in today's game he'd be putting up Harden numbers.

[@BrianKiddDevDesign]

Especially with the newer offesnive and defensive NBA rules which allow for players to do more with the ball.

[@RIDGEMATIC]

Gil is literally batting 1.000 on his commentary.

[@RIDGEMATIC]

Not to mention pistol Pete was giving cats 40 whenever he felt like it. No 3 point shot either.

[@dennisthemenace855]

No disrespect to Pete at all but ALMOST every FANCY move you can think of started in Rucker Parker ! When the pros during that time would play at in the summer time .. peewee Kirkland is arguably one of the first guys ever seen doing a in between cross over combo and he never played a minute in the nba .. I’m 1000% positive Pete was aware of such things and just took it to another level

[@pimpmastaa101]

Pistol was an elite shooter and elite passer

[@calvinsimpson1301]

Tough question. I'd say without considering their eras, Kyrie is more skilled. When considering eras and the dribbling and skillsets that existed back then, Pete was more skilled in his era. As time goes on, many of the flashy dribbling moves Pete invented are commonplace, even basic today

[@ai_9959]

Plus carrying, non travel calls and no hand checking make it eaiser for kyrie. But the overall skill level of the nba is much higher in kyries era

[@newrecruit100]

@@ai_9959 here we go again with the handchecking 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@ai_9959]

@@newrecruit100 it plays a big part. And to see pistols skill check his red auerbach drill vids. Id pick kyrie in any era btw

[@bigjazzyedd3967]

tf is wrong with people now? ok pistol pete did it first or made good passes but that doesn’t change kyries offensive skills. kyrie has pretty good passing, a top 5 scorer ever, a top 20 shooter ever from anywhere on the court, the best ball handler of all time, and clutch. pistol pete played against people that weren’t as good and he probably wasn’t as good as current day players

[@sanfordc91]

Pistol Pete avg more ppg in reg season and playoffs

[@stanzre]

he didnt even do it first

[@trollkenobi6727]

Oh, so Kareem isn't as good as a G-League player??

[@bigjazzyedd3967]

@@trollkenobi6727 it’s highly likely that if Kareem played today he’d be an average center

[@YaBoiJern757]

The difference between Kyrie and pistol Pete is pistol Pete was trying to do flashy stuff Kyrie can just play his regular game and it will like the most magnificent thing you seen on a basketball court.. Kyrie might be the most exciting ISO player to watch in basketball history I would rather see Kyrie go one-on-one more than just about anybody

[@Shun8881]

Gil didn't say Pistol was a better player than Kyrie. He said Pistol was more skilled; there's a difference. Kyrie can probably do what Pistol can, but Pistol was the one who was creative enough to come up with the moves he had without copying anyone. Creativity in itself is a skill, so definitely Pistol is more skilled than Kyrie

[@12savage68]

So how did you come to the conclusion that kyrie wouldn't have been just as creative had he been born first?

[@justanotherwaver9065]

@@12savage68 and your question is the reason why I don’t compare players. I don’t like the “what if” statements.

[@emmanuelferguson5604]

Hold up Areans!!! You forgot "White Chocolate" Jason Williams is similar to him

[@michaelwoods3702]

Bro same thing I was saying also Jason kidd 👌🏾

[@MRBBALLMAN10]

Kyrie is the most offensively flawless guard. Footwork,off hand, low compact handle, jumper in middy or long ball, floaters, high glass finishes, 1 foot,2 foot, off foot finishes,Knockdown free throw shooter, post up game and when u want him to pass it he can get you double digit assist no problem. Dude is a machine offensively man.

[@marquiswade7736]

you can say the same about Curry

[@MRBBALLMAN10]

@@marquiswade7736 Curry’s left hand floater or runner isn’t near Kyrie’s and can’t pull up 5 clips of him using a running hook either. His post game isn’t there either. Kyrie’s Jumper is closer to Curry’s than Curry’s off hand skill with all those finishes I mentioned is to Kyrie’s. Curry still the most impactful guy but if we do a check list of offensive skills. Kyrie checks more boxes.

[@marquiswade7736]

@@MRBBALLMAN10 Curry’s offhand is arguably the best in the league. You watch Kyrie, but you need to watch more tape on Curry. I will agree that Curry’s post game isn’t up there with Kyrie’s though.

[@MRBBALLMAN10]

@@marquiswade7736 First let me say, it’s great debating with a dude who’s respectful and just keeping it hoop in the comment section. If you have some clips of Curry pulling out Lefty running hooks and lefty floaters. Please comment with it boss. I have seen him use a lefty runner but not nearly as much as Kyrie. Kyrie was 24 or 25 using lefty running hooks over Klay in the finals. Just unreal man.

[@marquiswade7736]

@@MRBBALLMAN10 kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6rdoH-Qqd6dgrs it’s from 2014-15, but since you brought up young kyrie it’s fair to bring up this curry. 9 minutes of his left handed finishes, so yeah😂here you go bud

[@YaBoiJern757]

One thing Gilbert is not accounting for is the defenses were not nearly as good yes pistol Pete was extremely creative and innovative but the players he was playing against had never seen anything like that either so they had nothing in front of them to prepare for anything like that and the defenses weren't nearly as skilled as they are today especially when you mentioned passing Lanes the passing lanes are much smaller and tighter today.. which is why there are so many spectacular ISO players in today's game you have to be able to get your own bucket

[@jcw034]

He was always the most skilled but people sleep on him.

[@kendrabrown6345]

So much for white privilege

[@jcw034]

@@kendrabrown6345 huh?

[@kendrabrown6345]

@@jcw034 talking bout pistol pete

[@TommieGun602]

Well done Gil

[@henrydaniels7287]

Mane gtfoh That white boy ain’t got shit on Kyrie

[@518allday1]

Love love love Pistol. Glad he’s getting the props he so well deserves. 💯

[@jetshark970shark4]

He did have reference THE HARLEM GLOBETROTTERS!!!

[@curlyboyx]

Pistol was 6'5" and could pass like Magic and shoot like Bird.

[@Airi_Iwin]

He was not 6-7 more like 6-4

[@BasketballJones48021]

@@Airi_Iwin Pete was at least 6’5’’ w/o shoes on… in recent times, would’ve been listed at 6’6’’ or more!

[@BrianKiddDevDesign]

Listening to these guys, it's almost like Pistol was the Jimi Hendrix of basketball.

[@pistolpetetc]

He was. His skills came along once, never to return.

[@blackbeanburger3357]

im relieved gil just didn't automatically say kyrie would shit on anyone in that era. the game is almost entirely different in this era... even back to the basketball players in the 90s had insane skill but the skillset to thrive in the league was different than it is now

[@ricomccard4972]

Kyrie would shit on any point guard

[@ntobekomangena2958]

This guy is just a hater

[@darnarxz]

Gil already said that players now are more skilled than the 90s

[@IknowMoreThanYou]

Steph is actually the proper comparison for pistol Pete, the handles and infinite range off the dribble

[@dangerwhite697]

Nah

[@IknowMoreThanYou]

@@dangerwhite697 Nah

[@dangerwhite697]

I wouldn't compare the 2

[@IknowMoreThanYou]

@@dangerwhite697 Then you ain't seen the two Mirror images of what's possible Pete was the original test Steph was the reality executed to the tune of championships

[@dangerwhite697]

@@IknowMoreThanYou as far as possibility goes I see what you're saying.. I feel like I've seen steph make pistol like passes many times but he doesn't do it enough so I understand what you're saying.. just imagine if they actually had the three point line when pistol was playing though

[@ShangoDC]

Don't forget Pete has a career NBA scoring average of 24 points per game.

[@BasketballJones48021]

Yup! White Chocolate couldn’t score or shoot remotely close to what Pete did…

[@SaintFrost11]

Gil tripping on this one, I understand Pistol Pete was a legend and deserves his flowers, but Kyrie from an offensive skill standpoint is way more advanced than he was respectfully.

[@seds94]

agreed. pete did score 68 points in a game. pretty impressive

[@Mrmoore727]

I'm sure Gilbert thought of all that but I think he's more referencing the handles

[@scoringmachine4694]

I get what gill is trying to say but it's not even close Kyrie is definitely the most skilled pg period

[@EGarrett01]

0:12 Every time this co-host says something, Gilbert tends to deny it or just cut him off. There's nothing wrong with disagreeing with people, but Gilbert disagrees in a way that clearly would piss a lot of people off and if this is his normal MO, I can see why he had some issues in the NBA.

[@sbstaysharp25]

Pete saw it in the black neighborhood parks he wouldtake those moves to the white gyms ,Gil is from the Burbs so he missed that lay up.

[@Mr.Laker19]

The white chocolate elbow pass is not mediocre

[@JP-ri4it]

He was comparing it to passes pistol made. Its definitely not mediocre

[@Mr.Laker19]

@@JP-ri4it pistol was nuts but WC was no slouch when it came to creativity

[@JP-ri4it]

@@Mr.Laker19 no doubt. White chocolate was a beast. He is probably in top 10 passers of all time

[@Mr.Laker19]

@@JP-ri4it yea, if he was able to shoot like Pete he would of been an all star level player his whole career

[@Danny-hj2qg]

Pistil not Pistol!

[@ntobekomangena2958]

This is a sh*t take, gil smoking something strong

[@ShangoDC]

No he's really not smoking anything. Imagine having no reference for a particular skill and just inventing the foundation yourself. That's Pistol Pete. I'm 57 years and saw Pete in the 70's before he blew out his knee. With all the talk about passing and dribbling he was a serious long ranger scorer. He has a 24.3 points NBA career average. Pete has drill and fundamental video tape on KZbin check it out. 90 percent of the ball handling today is a carry, but to allow the game to progress they intergrate it into the play as legal.

[@ntobekomangena2958]

@@ShangoDCtalking nonsense who says he didnt see those moves from someone else, he just made it mainstream. There is not even one thing hes better than kyrie at

[@ShangoDC]

@@ntobekomangena2958 Charles no disrespect, but I think your missing the grand point. If you're not around in your 55 or older you weren't old enough to had seen Pete play. Some 40-45 years ago many of the players were original and created their own individual styles and fundamentals. In many cases you didn't have specialized training coaches and other things that have progressed the game. What is called ball handling and the crossover today would have been a carry in 70's and to some extent 80's. Gilbert is talking the thruth and his analysis is right. I played D1 and international in mid 80's and early 90's after NBA rookie camp. Have you seen three or four entire games of Pistol Pete? Like I thought I rest my case. Pistol Pete is the leading NCAA D1 scorer in history with a 43.3 points career average and 24.5 point NBA career average. He was a ball handling wizard. You've got do your studying before you starting talking emotional.

[@ntobekomangena2958]

@@ShangoDC doesnt change the fact is way more skilled, just like messi is more skilled than maradona but he did it first, virat kohli the most skilled batsmen but there are others who played the shots he played before him, aaron rodgers being the most skilled qb ever, but theres others who did some of the things he did before him

[@nickjohnson5597]

@@ntobekomangena2958 you really just ignoring the rule changes like all kids do

[@BigBen1994]

Pistol Pete averaged 40+ in college with no 3 point line

[@sicek7268]

Pistol Pete is a skilled player but Kyrie Irving can create his shots and win games it’s a big difference

[@deez9805]

Okay wtf is this dumbass comment 😂 bruh pistol Pete was the Kyrie of his generation so wtf is the “big” difference lmao?? Pistol created his shots too. If anything he did even more actual shot creation bc back then there was barely any on ball screens or pick and roll action.

[@SMohinder]

@@deez9805 Regardless of that you don’t think kyrie would absolutely dominate in that era? They would have never been able to guard someone with Kyries handle since they never experienced it before. Kyrie was also a more skilled shooter than probably anyone in that era.

[@markteague49]

@@SMohinder pistol Pete would evolve in this era tho too. Kyrie got the benefit of watching his uncle, iverson, zeke, pistol Pete.

[@terrancevanliew1814]

@@SMohinder Like Arenas said, Most of what Kyrie does now would be traveling in the 70's. The game was just different.

[@deez9805]

@@SMohinder I never said Kyrie couldn’t dominate that era of course he could. His shooting alone would’ve made him a top 5 player. But he wouldn’t be able to dribble and do a lot of the layups he does bc back then they were travels, carries, and there was an illegal defense rule.

[@barneybarnes7134]

They're forgetting about Bob Cousy

[@musicenlightened2055]

68 with no three point line....

[@terencewright9972]

Pistol Pete Maravich also was a great scorer

[@terrancevanliew1814]

He was primarily a scorer.

[@tgbar96]

Dam. Good ass point

[@brycewilson8592]

Kyrie IS the most skilled. Dude was in a diff era. Not his fault but he couldn't do what kyrie does. There is No debate.

[@jayherbo6703]

Go look at pistol passing highlights bro

[@SMohinder]

I look at it like this. If you gave Shaq kyries or Pistol Pete’s skill. He would be better with Kyries skill. Kyrie was a more skilled scorer in pretty much every aspect of scoring. And pistol Pete was a more skilled passer. But scoring matters more than passing. So ima say kyrie is more skilled.

[@JP-ri4it]

Na. Pistol was probably a better scorer also. The things kyrie does pistol was doin in a church gym at the age of 9. Noone worked harder than pistol other than maybe Kobe

[@blackbeanburger3357]

pistol could score though, he averaged more ppg than kyrie and carried his team on offense

[@SMohinder]

@@JP-ri4it Pistol Pete was not as Efficient as kyrie. Kyrie was a more skilled shooter and pistol Pete NEVER had the handles that kyrie has. Kyrie was a more skilled shot creator and if you watch him play you would understand that. Also pistol Pete never had a layup package like kyrie.

[@SMohinder]

@@blackbeanburger3357 the most points Pete averaged in a season was 31. And that’s on a ridiculous 28 shots per game. He shot 43% from the field that season and he shot 83% from the line on 8 attempts per game. If kyrie took that many shot attempts and free throws kyrie would average 35+ since he was way more efficient. For example look at this season. Kyrie is averaging 27ppg on 50% from the field. Nearly 40% from 3. And about 92% from the line on 4 FT shots a game. And he is shooting 8 less shot attempts than Pete’s highest scoring season. Kyrie is a better AND more skilled scorer.

[@lenorencepayton6879]

Scoring shouldn't even be discussed. Kyrie is not a better scorer than Pistol.. You do know pistol Averaged 44ppg for 3 years in college before there was a 3 point line! They said if there was a 3 point line based on where he shot.. He would've averaged 57 points per game. Pistol averaged more ppg than Kyrie as an NBA player. He played over 600 games and only about 50 games with a 3 point line. And had a 67% 3pt percentage. Kyries game might be pretty and fancy. But Pistol is taking this man. Pistol had Handles too. Nobody could rip Pistol. This man invented half the ball handling drills. Don't believe me go watch Homework Basketball Ball Handling. I don't see what Kyrie can do that he couldn't. But I see what he can do that Kyrie can't. It's close tho Kyrie might edge him in Handles. Closer than I'm making it seem. But Pistol is that dude. Don't matter what era

[@linellfox5413]

Pistol Pete by far.

[@swam2922]

I would compare Jason Williams passes to pete

[@CBarber22]

Maravich obviously had a high level of skill but we can't bring him up without also discussing the filter that was put on black PGs for decades to "play the right way". There's a lot of black PGs that never got the opportunity to showcase the range of their skills, no such filter was ever put on Maravich's game. He did not ask for the advantage but it existed and we shouldn't just ignore it.

[@teddyhart2913]

I had a beef with Kyrie not being named top 75 specifically for the fact that Pistol Pete made it, and theyre careers and stats are damn near deadlocked. Kyrie is Pistol Pete 2.0, so if the prototype made it, he should too

[@pistolpetetc]

pete was waaaaayyy more skilled

[@teddyhart2913]

@@pistolpetetc he was the prototype, not waaayy more skilled

[@nikemanswag15]

gil has said a lot of truth but he’s overthinking this one

[@servantleaderkwoods2789]

Nobody in front of him? The Globetrotters existed first. Check your history.

[@mohammedsalmi3778]

Bro who tf is pete pistol bro. Dont ever say that on the show if you want people to think your sane

[@curlyboyx]

You're a clown. Pistol Pete revolutionized the game. Kyrie not even better than Curry at the moment. Pistol was like Steve Nash and Curry mixed

[@scoringmachine4694]

@@curlyboyx Stop

[@mohammedsalmi3778]

Aye bruh stfu talk to your dad nicely Kyrie Irving is better then Michael Jordan at this moment dont you ever talk trash about kyrie again unlike you im a basketball player so i know you are jus a random fan who uses his mouth too much. Just stick with watching and let me do the talking

[@curlyboyx]

@@mohammedsalmi3778 you should change your name to "Kyrie's salmi down your Throat." You don't know a goddamn thing about basketball son. Probably never played past middle school. If you're even that old.

[@Brodieiamnot]

I've always thought pistol Pete was the goat

[@noelc.8830]

There's no one before maravich doing what he did? I love pistol pete but the harlem Globetrotters were doing all that in the 1920s.

[@emmanuelpetit8291]

Im too young to know about Pistol Pete. So AI it is

[@ShangoDC]

I'm 57 and what Gil is saying is correct. Image having no reference point from any other player and just creating from nothing. That's why I tell alot of younger guy's you can't make certain judgments of players when you've really not seen the entire spectrum of players. Pete was a basketball wizard with balling handling, passing and shooting. Remember he's the all time leading college scorer with a 43 point career scoring average with no three pointer.

[@unknowntemptation97]

Gilbert Arenas Was trying to say that Iphone 1 is better than iphone 12 pro max

[@pistolpetetc]

Pete was 50 years ahead of his time buddy

[@JP-ri4it]

Anyone saying kyrie need to go on KZbin and watch pistol play horse vs george gervin and then see both their highlights. Then go read pistols biography. Then you will see that pistol was probably the most skilled bball player of all time. If he didn’t play 24-7 outside on hardtop since he was 5 he would have had knees to sustain a longer career in the nba

[@scoringmachine4694]

Drugs are bad for you

[@JP-ri4it]

@@scoringmachine4694 1. Drugs are cool 2. Its cool. Most casuals are not qualified to have an opinion on most bball stuff. they don’t understand the game too well and lack historical knowledge

[@scoringmachine4694]

@@JP-ri4it your still high I see

[@JP-ri4it]

@@scoringmachine4694 cool

[@patrickdiew2271]

😂😂 this a joke kyrie would absolutely destroy Pete

[@mrsrandommademedoit3387]

Most of the moves Kyrie does now was illegal plays when Pistol Pete played.. We are talking about the most SKILLED player, a player who can create out of nothing, makes plays that no one can copy, passes that no one else could make, vision like no one else iq like no one else. Not the BEST player. Jordan would destroy Kyrie, so would Kobe, Magic, Bird, Lebron, Kareem, wilt, and many many others. That is not the point.

[@dailybillions9205]

Offence isn't just about passing its also about scoring. And u cannot tell me that pistol Pete is a better scoring machine than kyrie u can't it's impossivle. And BTW all the people u just mentioned r all time greats and better then pistol Pete as well so ur last point is invalid

[@dailybillions9205]

And one more thing no one will have a better handle than kyrie or be a better under the rim finisher. The guy has whole categories all to him self. Kyrie has the kyrie cary which is his own move that I have yet to see done by anyone else in the nba. What category does Pete hold for himself

[@darius_productions03]

U said Pete passing hasn't been duplicated kyire handles hadn't been duplicated either

[@nexxlevel4590]

Pistol Pete deserves a movie. His life was crazy and his father made Lavar ball look like nothing lol

[@danielsanchez7457]

They already made a movie about pistol but would enjoy a remake

[@nexxlevel4590]

@@danielsanchez7457 what’s it called? Is it any good?

[@danielsanchez7457]

@@nexxlevel4590 The Pistol: The Birth of a Legend. I enjoy all things Pistol

[@nexxlevel4590]

@@danielsanchez7457 thks. I’ll check it out. I love the pistol

[@nopanic3186]

First L Gilbert take…skilled and all he brought up was passing not his 30 percent shooting, not his basic handles, not his lack of on ball defense, lack of a mid post, low post nor high post….kyrie does all this at 6’3

[@ricomccard4972]

I'm going kyrie! The disrespect that man's get is crazy. I do watch Pete highlights but he not as skilled as kyrie is.

[@Gypsywasteland]

You have to put in context with the time tho. They are both the most skilled for there time period

[@tahasharhan642]

@@Gypsywastelandwe are talking about skills and not only one skill for ex; pistol Pete passing ability. Kyrie could pass but not at pistol Pete level but pistol Pete can’t handle the ball and drive to the basket and do some crazy layup package and being creative in a multiple ways, Unlike pistol Pete is creative in passing.

[@robwarren8360]

Not in same league not sure why this is a question

[@jaxondavis2486]

That’s what’s up, showing love to Pete Maravich. But nah. I don’t necessarily agree with Kyrie either

[@alifrombenhill3374]

Pistol Pete was Jason Williams trickery mixed with Kyrie handles mixed with Ray Allen shooting. Gil has a point. His name can be discussed. There is no answer. Kyrie is definitely top 3 in skill all time. You can't quantify who is most skilled anyway. Cause someone could say Kareem is most skilled. His footwork, positioning, accuracy and efficiency while using the most difficult shot to learn plus his positioning on defense was just as perfect. So that's 3 names and there are more.

[@michaelbonhomme1560]

Kyrie can do Kareem. Kareem cannot do Kyrie

[@michaelbonhomme1560]

Jason Williams can’t roll the ball up the backboard or finish as well as Kyrie, but Kyrie *might* be able to pull off JayWill plays

[@alifrombenhill3374]

@@michaelbonhomme1560 nobody can do Kareem. There are plenty of players that have said that. And u can't do a skyhook as a point guard. And Kyrie is not a winner. He is a baller. He don't make players or teams better at any level of bball in highschool, didn't really play in college, and Cleveland, Boston and brooklyn. He is a great sidekick that is probably the most skilled player ever.

[@michaelbonhomme1560]

@@alifrombenhill3374 And Yes, Kyrie could easily finish several a game of his go tos weren’t already bread and butter. As for winning, Kareem would not be as dominant if he was 6’7”.

[@sidneypratt5493]

This comparison is disrespectful......TO KYRIE tf

[@en.4392]

It’s about need. Both flashy. Both skillful. Two different agendas. If you want the better scorer I say Kyrie better point guard Pete.

[@BasketballJones48021]

Kyrie can’t score like Pete could… Pistol actually led the league in scoring once (year he was 3rd in MVP voting) with almost 5 more points per game than the next best, and he was also top3 in PPG two other times. Plus, Maravich actually played more SG than PG… he definitely had a PG-like skillset, but also a SG-type body and scoring prowess.

[@aliab3840]

KYRIE IS THE MOST SKILLED PG EVER

[@Yaguydomo]

Pistol 🔫 is a beast lol

[@robwarren8360]

And it aint even close

[@trollkenobi6727]

more skilled than Magic???

[@thuglife2ea424]

@@trollkenobi6727 greatness no but skills ? Better by a land slide

[@bugzthedondada4346]

Pistol Pete is not more skilled than Kyrie. Sounds like Gil is praising his creativity. Kyrie can do everything on the court with either hand. Kyrie & Kobe are the most skilled all time

[@MrSKATEandDIE]

And it sounds like you never seen pistol Pete play

[@bugzthedondada4346]

@@MrSKATEandDIE if you think pistol 🔫 is more skilled than Kyrie or Kobe you don’t know basketball. Did Pete even post up? Lol Kyrie puts bigger players in the post & scores on them

[@jongib369]

Petes moves whether it be passing or dribbling work in any era, Kyries dribbling only works in this era. It would take a lot less time for Pete to adjust to today than vice versa. Give pete today's dribbling rules, spacing, and 3pt line that man would GO TO WORK. Guy would be listed about 6'7 today. He was 6'5 barefoot which is taller than Jordans, and Kobes barefoot height kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKi2YYBtrcmDe7c If Mr Rodgers was a baller it would be him in this video 🤣

[@miscellaneousvlogger5762]

I get it but Gil trippin 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@anthonyhodgson2934]

Pistol hands down

[@40cal47]

Ok thats just passing skill we talking about overall skill. Kyrie is the most skilled wtf.

[@joshuawilliams71]

Jason kidd and jason williams are close to Maravich

[@jaydell4039]

I love how people in the comments act like u have to be athletic or face super athletic competition to be great. Kyrie is not athletic like y’all think. Steve Nash ain’t athletic and was killin players. CP3 ain’t athletic like that but he a beast. Pete Maravich doesn’t have to play very athletic players to go off. Jokic isn’t athletic at all but he killing people and luka isn’t athletic too so stop with the oh but Pete’s competition. Pete faced athletic players too. Steph Curry isn’t athletic either but he’s skilled enough to kill players every night